1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: What you are listening to is real. The participants are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: not actors, their actual NBA podcasters. With a case pending 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: in the No Dunk's Municipal Court, both parties have agreed 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: to make their case how a particular team should approach 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: the trade deadline and have their dispute settled here in 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: our forum, the Trade Deadline Court. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Our first case number four to seven four to zero 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: pertains to the Toronto Raptors, who currently sit in fourth 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: place in the Eastern Conference. There are a number of 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: directions that defending champs can go as we approach the 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: trade deadline. Trey Kirby is confident they should be active sellers, 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: while Lee Ellis is convinced they could be buyers. Let's 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: hear their arguments. 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: All rise, the Honorable Judge tass Mellis, Presider. 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: Thank you. This court is now in session. We are 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: just over four weeks from the end trade deadline, meaning 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 3: it's crunch time for each NBA franchise. Front offices must 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: make the future altering decision are we a buyer or 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: are we a seller? They can't take those choices lightly, 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: and either will I no messing around in my courtroom. 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: I won't stand for anyone straying from the truth. I 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: will find that truth through my questioning. Because I am fair, 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 3: I am confident that things will be kept professional because 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 3: before me are two of the best NBA attorneys making 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: the case for either side. First up, mister Kirby, after 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: winning the title, you believe the Raptors should tear it down. 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 3: Let's hear what you have to say. 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 4: First and foremost, Judge Mellis, thank you for hearing our case. Today. 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: My colleague Lelis Shirley will present to you some exciting 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 4: arguments regarding why the Raptors should continue along this path 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: of chasing perhaps a repeat title. And I can't deny 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: this has been a fun season for the Raptors. They've 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: done a great job as defending champions. They've been a lovable, 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: enjoyable team to walk. You can't underestimate the heart of 35 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: a champion. But gentlemen, the Raptors need to sell. You 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 4: can't let a surprise title sway you because Toronto now 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 4: knows title teams and this is not a title team. 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 4: Exhibit A. The Raptors are five and twelve against teams 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: that are over five hundred this season. If you extrapolate 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: that to the Eastern Conference Elite. The Raptors are just 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: two and five against the Bucks, seventy six Ers, Celtics, 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: and Heat. Exhibit B. Valuable contracts. The Raptors have a 43 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: lot of them. Kyle Lowry thirty three million this year, 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 4: thirty one million next year. You don't think another team 45 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: would be interested in having a championship caliber point guard 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 4: on their team. How about Marc Gasol twenty five million 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 4: this year, nothing next year. Get him out of here. 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: He could help another championship team, or even Norman Powell. 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: He's got one of the rare tradable contracts in the league, 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 4: just ten million dollars this season. He's got another couple 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: of years on his deal after that. But these are 52 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: all deals that could easily be moved, should the Raptors 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: decide to do so. And that brings me to my 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: final exhibit Exhibit C. Massai eu Jerry's plan, which all 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: along was to retool the Toronto Raptors franchise before he 56 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: brought in Kawhi Leonard, even after he brought in Kawhi Leonard. 57 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: If everything goes poorly, they can just blow it up 58 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: and start all over again. Things didn't go poorly. They 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: went perfectly, but the plans still exist. If you want 60 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: to really be the new Spurs, prove to me that 61 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: you're not just a one time flashing the Pan champion. 62 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: Prove that you're winning culture can continue to build a 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: new contender. 64 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: Mister Kirby, you bring up the San Antonio Spurs. With 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: the San Antonio Spurs, tear it down and just trade 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: their parts. Guys who help them win the championship, help 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: bring smiles to the faces of the people who have 68 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: been grim for so long in that arena. 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: You make a good point, Judge Mellis, I can't deny it. 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: The Spurs wouldn't do such a thing, but these are 71 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: the News Spurs. Messiu Jeri is a trading kind of guy, 72 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: and he's ready to put his stamp on a franchise. 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: He's put his on a couple already. He's got the Nuggets, 74 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: they were great, He's got the Raptors. They won a champion, 75 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 4: but some of those pieces were still there. Now is 76 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: the time for this to be Messiu Jerry's team and 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: Messaiyu Jerry's team only. 78 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: Blow it up. 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: Let me ask you one question. I really appreciate you 80 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 3: bringing all those exhibits to the court. We appreciate facts 81 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 3: in this institution, but let me ask you. Yes, not 82 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: great record against plus five hundred teams, but why can't 83 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: they make it to the Eastern Conference Final? Wasn't it 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: mere weeks ago we were talking about this team in 85 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: the same breath as the Milwaukee Bucks. It wasn't doesn't 86 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: seem that long ago. And maybe maybe I don't have 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: the facts, but maybe maybe there is a chance. 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been talk that the Raptors could go back 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: to an Eastern Conference finals, but the game has changed. 90 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: The Raptors don't want to go to conference finals anymore. 91 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: They want to keep their cap clean. They want to 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: pursue Jana Santa to Kupo in twenty twenty one, and 93 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: they want to go back to an NBA finals and 94 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: lock down another championship. Hang another banner right next to that. 95 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 4: Tim Hortons at Scotia Bank Arena. 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for your time, Lee. Why make the 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: case why the Raptors should be buyers? 98 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 5: Well, I think mister Kirby references the San Antonio Spurs, 99 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 5: and I think MESSIYUZERI would love to have the history 100 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 5: and the record over the last twenty plus years of 101 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 5: the San Antonio Spurs. Obviously they never repeat it, but 102 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 5: they were always there can being a contender. And I 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: think that's really where Messiyu Jury finds himself. If you 104 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 5: look back at his record, he basically traded Kyle Lowry 105 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 5: away from the Raptors. He thought he was going to rebuild. 106 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 5: Then that trade fell apart, and since then the Raptors 107 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 5: have actually become good. Last season, messire Zieri swung for 108 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: the Fences twice and both times they pulled off. Before 109 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: the season, gave up beloved Dema de Rosen to get 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 5: Kawhi Leonard, knowing there was a risk there that Kawhi 111 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 5: wouldn't stay, and second ball at the trade deadline, when 112 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 5: a few other teams started making a few moves, messia 113 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 5: Jeri traded another beloved figure in Onis Valentiunis in order 114 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 5: to get Mark Gasol. So why wouldn't he again this 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 5: season when he still has Marco Stohl, he still has 116 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 5: Kyle Larra. In fact, he re signed Kyle Larra for 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 5: one more season knowing that this team isn't done with yet. 118 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 5: They are are still a chance because in the Eastern Conference, 119 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody. Even the Milwaukee Bucks, as impresses 120 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 5: as they have been, have really put their stamp on 121 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 5: the conference. Because the Raptors beat the Milwaukee Bucks last season. 122 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: How did they beat them? Well, they they did. Sorry, 123 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: they did have You are correct, they did have him, 124 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: and he's not there anymore. But there is a player 125 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 5: out there available who could play a similar role to 126 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 5: what Kawhi did on the defensive end. That gentleman. We 127 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 5: know he hasn't played this season, but we know he 128 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 5: keeps himself in great shape. He wants to go to 129 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: a team that can could contend, and that is Andre Gudala. 130 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 5: He's out there. So if you're message Jerry, you've got 131 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 5: some contracts out there, you've got a norm Power, you've 132 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 5: got a Pat mccaughy, you've got a second end of hell, 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 5: if you've got a first round or even why not 134 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 5: go for it this year. 135 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna love that kind of language. 136 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: Why not, gentlemen, Yes, you're right, you're right. Maybe he 137 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: hasn't worked on a microphone too many times. He can 138 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: pop as many piece. 139 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 5: As Mesa is not the sort of guy who wants 140 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: to sit around and worry about next season. He wants 141 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 5: to worry about this season. Kyle Lowry has shown by 142 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: his play he believes the Raptors can get back to 143 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: the championship this season, So why not surround Kyle show 144 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 5: him that Why you gave him that that thirty one 145 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: million dollar contract. Next season, You're going to do everything 146 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 5: in your power to make the Raptors a contender again. 147 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 5: Tray you also, mister Kirby also mentioned the Raptors struggles 148 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: against teams over five hundred during the regular season. Well 149 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 5: last season in the playoffs, the Raptors did rather well 150 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 5: against teams over five hundred. Even when they were down 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 5: and looked out, they kept on fighting. 152 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you something about Messier. You 153 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: said that he traded Tomorrow de Rosen. That's totally true. 154 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't he trade Kyle Lowry? Here's that cutthroat, that 155 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: type of individual. He wants to build a prolonged winner, 156 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: a sustainable winner. Why wouldn't he trade Kyle Lowry for 157 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: an asset? Why won't he treade sarch of Baker for 158 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: an asset? Why would' he trade Marcosol for an asset? 159 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: Isn't he doing a disservice to his franchise? By not 160 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: treating those guys. 161 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 5: He made his case fairly clear by extending Kyle Lowry, saying, Hey, Kyle, 162 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 5: we don't think this was just a one season flash 163 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: in the pan. We believe we can go back to 164 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 5: the promised Land again this season. So rather than trade 165 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 5: those guys knowing that Casol's are a free agent next season, 166 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 5: knowing that a Barker is a free agent next season, 167 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 5: this is the season that Messia Jeri wants to put 168 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 5: his chips all in the middle and say we're going 169 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 5: to go for it. Maybe we come up short, but 170 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 5: at least I'm going to show those guys like Kyle 171 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 5: and Mark and Surge, this is the season I'm trying 172 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: for it. I'm not worried about next season. We'll worry 173 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 5: about then that then. 174 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: I appreciate mister Kirby, mister Ellis, you're bringing all of 175 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: those facts and those passionate statements to my courtroom. It 176 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: is time for my ruling. And although the assets are 177 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: outs would receive in trades for Larry Gasol or Abaca 178 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: would add to the pile, undoubtedly, I don't think it 179 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: would be anything better than what they have built built 180 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: already in their depth and in their G league, so 181 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: I don't think it's worth denying the fans a chance 182 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: at a repeat for the first time in history. The 183 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: Toronto Raptors should be buyers. Let's move on, bailiff. 184 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: Our second case, number one two eight two one pertains 185 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: to the Oklahoma City Thunder, who currently find themselves comfortably 186 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: in the seventh spot in the Western Conference. They're definitely 187 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: one of the league's biggest surprises, but some pundits think 188 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: they should take their foot off the gas, maybe strike 189 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: while the iron's hot, and make moves for the future. 190 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: Lee Ellis wants okayc to be active buyers at the deadline. 191 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: Trey Kirby says sell now, sell high. 192 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: This should be good the Thunder. Who would have thought 193 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: this would even be a debate after what they did 194 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: in the offsea Mister Allis, you believe they are actually 195 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: in a position to go for it? Please tell the 196 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: court why you think they've gotten to that place. 197 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 5: Coming into this season, I was one of the few 198 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: believers that Okay See might be okay with Chris Paul 199 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 5: leading a team of lesser known stars. It didn't start 200 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: off too well, but lately it's gotten very, very nice. 201 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 5: Eight and two in their last ten, including a tight 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 5: one last night against the Philadelphia seventy six or so. 203 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 5: I think the Thunder in a position their future is 204 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 5: already bright. Sam Presty has accumulated so many future draft 205 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 5: picks that they will pay off in time. Right now, 206 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 5: you have an opportunity on this team to maybe cause 207 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 5: a little bit of a ruckus in that Western Conference, 208 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 5: as is a few teams like the Denver Nuggets and 209 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 5: like the Houston Rocket Tour in their second and third 210 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 5: position right now a little unproven come playoff time. The 211 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 5: Thunder have a team here of some veterans led again, 212 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 5: as I say, by Chris Paul. 213 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: Let me ask you something about Chris Paul. You said 214 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: those top teams are unproven. Chris Paul somewhat proven to 215 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: be an injured play Can you bank on this man 216 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: turning thirty five in a few months. 217 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 5: From what I've seen so far this season, Chris Paul 218 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 5: certainly looks rejuvenated, refreshed. Even he doesn't have the fountain 219 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 5: of youth. Perhaps he's found that fountain of you. Now 220 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 5: listen this. 221 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: It was in Oklahoma this whole time, originally was lying 222 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: under a tumblewee. 223 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 5: Remember he was in Oklahoma all those years ago when 224 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: he had one of his best seasons. Anyway, the reason 225 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 5: I think they should be a buyer though, because. 226 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: Hey, you're not saving anything major. 227 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 5: Is they still need a couple of a couple of 228 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 5: strengths that I think are out there. They need a 229 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 5: little bit more three point shooting, and they certainly need 230 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 5: a little bit more help for Steven Adams in the middle. 231 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: They have no wow. 232 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: I wouldn't call him necessarily a big banger, he's athletic 233 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 5: at times, but they need a little bit of help. 234 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: I think a guy like a Marcus Morris could help 235 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 5: them a little bit of toughness, good three point shooter. 236 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 5: They could also, I don't believe I'm going to say this, 237 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 5: Kevin Love could help this team in the short term. 238 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 5: In the short term, I know he brings a big fat, 239 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 5: juicy contract, but that would be okay for where the 240 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 5: thunder a in the in the next coming seasons. But 241 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: also there's a guy like Aaron Gordon, athletic guy could 242 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 5: help defend three point shootings are a little bit of you, 243 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 5: but he's available, And I think again, when you're Sam Prest, 244 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 5: you have so many future assets, why not dangle one 245 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 5: or two of those first round picks you've got. Why 246 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 5: not just see what's out there and maybe make this 247 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: team a little more even bounced, give Chris Paul a 248 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 5: little bit more help, and they could I've already said 249 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 5: in a previous show, they could make a first round upset, 250 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 5: and then who knows after that. 251 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: I don't I don't watch other TV and what you 252 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: say on other shows, mister Alice, but you said their 253 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 3: seventh in the West, good teams ahead of them that 254 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: maybe are unproven, that they could upset. What do you 255 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: actually think the ceiling for this team is? Or are 256 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: there a team that just can come into the playoffs, 257 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: maybe eke out a win or two, and then be bounced. 258 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: Is it worth it? What is their ceiling? 259 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 5: I think it's worth it, given the fact that when 260 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: they quite Chris Paul, it was assumed he was just 261 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 5: going to be moved on somewhere else. That hasn't happened, 262 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 5: largely because I believe Chris Paul's contract. Well, now he's 263 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: there and he's performing and he's playing well, I think 264 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 5: you may as well take your chances right now with 265 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 5: what you have on the Thunder again. The future is 266 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 5: very bright. Anyway, Let's see what you got with this team. 267 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 5: Let's see who's going to be prepared to give up 268 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 5: maybe one of their other assets. And Sam Presty another 269 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 5: guy doesn't tank, refuses to tank. 270 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: Okay, well, let me ask you one more thing about 271 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: Chris Paul. He's thirty five. They're going to pay him 272 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: until he's thirty seven. If he does stick around there, 273 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: he may have found the fountain of youth. You yourself 274 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: have found a fountain of youth? Are you perhaps projecting 275 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: yourself up on Chris Paul? 276 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 5: Well, I think you get better with wine, like a 277 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 5: fine wine. We all get better with age. Well, you 278 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 5: do get better with wine, actually too. Okay on the 279 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 5: dance law especially, Ah, that's fine. 280 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: You made your case. Why should the Thunder be? 281 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: Oh, mister Ellis, I appreciate your commitments to supporting the 282 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 4: Oklahoma City Thunder and their franchise and the surprising season 283 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: that they've put together so far. And I think you 284 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 4: would agree with me, mister Ellis. Mister Mellis that a 285 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 4: large reason the Thunder have been so good this season 286 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: is because of Chris Paul, is because of Shakegil just Alexander. Well, 287 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 4: guess what you can keep those guys. Have your cake 288 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: and eat it too. Nobody's trading for Chris Paul right now. 289 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: They don't. The Thunder don't want to trade Shakegil, just Alexander. 290 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: But there's a whole bunch of other guys. You're talking 291 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: about how the death doesn't make sense, Lee, you know 292 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: you don't need three point guards. Dennis Shrewder, maybe somebody 293 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: could be interested in him, ship him out. Do you 294 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: necessarily need Denilo Gallinari? I'm not convinced the Thunder are 295 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: four and one without him. Denilo Gallinari seems to get 296 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: traded a lot. Perhaps there's a reason, Like you said, Lee, 297 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: the assets are numerous. There's a whole bunch of picks 298 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: coming from both the Clippers and from the Rockets. There's 299 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: a bunch of picks out there. But you need players. 300 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: You gotta have guys who are out there. So I 301 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: can see moving a Shrewder, moving a Gallinari, perhaps even 302 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: the Steven Adams, I don't know. He seems like a 303 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 4: culture center for the Thunder, so maybe you keep him around. 304 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 4: But these are all guys who could be dealt to 305 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: bring in additional players. Who helped play out the string. 306 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: Maybe you make the playoffs anyways, because I think we 307 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: can agree that the Thunder are maxing out at a 308 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: playoff series victory. I don't think they're making it to 309 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: the conference finals. They're certainly not making it to the 310 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: finals or winning the championship. But they've been a fun 311 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: team for a team that continues to make the playoffs. 312 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: I think he can sell some of the pieces and 313 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: keep the big names. Have your cake, eat it too. 314 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: Cake is delicious. 315 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: You get better with Kim Steven Adams. You mentioned him, 316 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: Mister Kirby only twenty six years of age. Why would 317 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: you trade him? 318 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: He's slowing down. He would be the least likely trade 319 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: candidate for me if I was the Thunder, just because 320 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: he seems like the exact kind of guy you want 321 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: around with a young point guard and with an old 322 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: point guard. He's gonna help defense, he's gonna help on 323 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: the glass, he's gonna set monster screens, he's not going 324 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: to require the ball, and he's gonna be a good 325 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: guy in the locker room. He's the guy I would 326 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: most want to keep around if I'm the Thunder. But 327 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: Gallinari to me, expendable, Shrewder expendable. If there's somebody that 328 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: wants to take on Andre Robertson's contract for the end 329 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: of the year, that's fine too. 330 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: As you can tell by the trade deadline court and 331 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: the ratings that we do on television. I enjoy TV. 332 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: I enjoy making good TV. So I do believe the 333 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: okay see could be. 334 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 5: You don't watch other shows, No, no, just one show. 335 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: I do believe that okay se could be a Cinderella story, 336 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: and I think you could make money off it by 337 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: making a movie Michael B. Jordan starring as Chris Paul. Perhaps, 338 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: you know, let's think let's think big picture here, mister Kirby, 339 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: let's think large. You don't want to trade away a Cinderella, 340 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: so you don't want to trade away an epic trilogy. 341 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: Perhaps there are other Cinderella stories out there. My friend, 342 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: the Dallas Mavericks, a team nobody expected to be contending 343 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: in the Western Conference. There's a real Cinderella story, not 344 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: the franchise that keeps trading away all the MVPs. 345 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: Now it's time for my ruling. I've had enough. We've 346 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: got a lot of things to do here and want 347 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: people want fast paced television. That's what I've heard. The 348 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: Oklahoma City Thunder. They don't have to sell everyone, but 349 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: they do have to sell the old guys. The okac 350 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: Thunder should be sellers. We're done here. 351 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: Today's third case number three two one nine pertains to 352 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: the Miami Heat, who at twenty six and ten have 353 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: the third seed in the Eastern Conference. Miami's front office 354 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: is never afraid to make a big move, but why 355 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: rock the boat when things are going oh so smoothly. 356 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: Trey Kirby thinks the Heat have enough pieces to be 357 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: buyers at the deadline, while Leellis thinks the opposite. They'll 358 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: now state their case to the Honorable Judge Millis. 359 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: Let's see what we got here. Up next on the docket. 360 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: The Miami Heat. I don't watch sports, but they have 361 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: been impressive. Mister Kirby, you believe they should be buyers. 362 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 3: Please tell the court why. 363 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: The Heat have been a fun team to watch this year. 364 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 4: They have integrated Jimmy Butler to a degree. I don't 365 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: think that many people thought would be possible, considering Butler's 366 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: exits from his previous three teams. They have two all stars. 367 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: They might not get two All Stars this year, but 368 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: in Jimmy Butler and bam Adebayo, they have to All Stars. 369 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: But unfortunately for the Miami Heat, that's not enough to 370 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: truly contend. 371 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: To me. 372 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 4: Their ceiling right now is making it to a conference finals, 373 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 4: which is fine if you're a team that doesn't have 374 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 4: a championship pedigree. You don't want to end up being 375 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 4: the twenty sixteen Heat, a team that surprised everybody. Then 376 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 4: you roll with that team. Suddenly you're stuck as a 377 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: good team who's not great. The team right now is good, 378 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 4: but they can be great by moving a guy like 379 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 4: Goran Draga, who's already thirty three years old, playing well, 380 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: but has a contract that expires in the summer, an 381 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 4: easily tradable contract. The number is not too big. The 382 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: league right now is unsettled. We're not one hundred percent 383 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 4: convinced on any team being the single best team in 384 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: the league, and that is the best time to strike. 385 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 4: You get a title that nobody expects. The twenty fifteen 386 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 4: Warriors came out of nowhere during an unsettled time with 387 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: the league. The twenty eleven Mavericks came out of nowhere 388 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 4: and surprise everybody won a title with an unsettled league. 389 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 4: The time is now for the Miami Heat to make 390 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: a move that puts them into the upper echelona teams. 391 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: They're right there. Teams or players love to come to 392 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: the Heat, so free agency won't be a problem for them, 393 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: Retaining players won't be a problem for them. The culture 394 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: is already set at another piece, and you're right there 395 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 4: amongst the best teams in the league. 396 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: I very much appreciate your historical examples you bring to 397 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 3: the court. Here. Those Dallas Mavericks a great example. Derek 398 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: Novitski led a team to a championship. That being said, 399 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: we've seen what a Jimmy Butler led squad has done 400 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 3: in the past in the postseason. Mister Kirby, I do 401 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: believe you're from Chicago. I do believe you understand what 402 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler. Yes, I did my homework. You understand what 403 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 3: a Jimmy Butler led team can do in the postseason. 404 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 3: Why do you believe this team could be different. 405 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler hasn't shown his full skills since being in Miami. 406 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 4: I have him as an All Stars starter. I think 407 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: he could end up as an All NBA player this season, 408 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 4: but he's still just suitting twenty seven percent from three 409 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: forty three percent from the field. Jimmy Butler himself could 410 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: be a lot better, which then raises the heat ceiling. 411 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: But you're right, mister Millis. The Chicago Bulls with Jimmy 412 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 4: Butler is their number one guy, they never went far. 413 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 4: That's why you need somebody else there to help him. 414 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: Bam Autebayo has been great this season. I don't think 415 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: he is the creation guy that they're necessarily looking for. 416 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 4: They got to have somebody else who can get a 417 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: bucket when time is running down. Jimmy can do it, 418 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: but there should be somebody else around who can help. 419 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: Let me ask you one more thing. Those undrafted and 420 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: second round players who've been contributing, can they keep this up? 421 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: I've heard this is a star driven league. Are those 422 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: guys going to be able to do it in games fifty, sixty, 423 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 3: seventy and eighty that they've never played before. A lot 424 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: of these rooks, these young guys, do they have what 425 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: it takes to be NBA champions? 426 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: Are you asking me if they have the guts? 427 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: Do they have the guts? 428 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: I'm certain they have the guts. That's why you got him. Move. 429 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: Find a guy who you know has the guts, because 430 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: once he gets to game fifty sixty, seventy, eighty, and 431 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: more importantly eighty three, you want to have somebody who's 432 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: been there before. Duncan Robinson, you're shooting the lights out, kid, 433 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 4: but you're not Drew Holliday, Kendrick Nunn. You're having a 434 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: great season. None of us had ever heard of you 435 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: before this year. Give me somebody who has a proven 436 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: pedigree Miami heat style. 437 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: A lot of names you mentioned, there's even more names. 438 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 3: Deean Waiters, scoring, Dragic, Justice Winslow, who is untouchable before 439 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: this season, Now he can be touched. Apparently. Are all 440 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: these support players going to be a part of this rotation? 441 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 3: In the posting? Don't they have too many guys? 442 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: Too many guys, too many pies, too many cooks in 443 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: the kitchen. Get them out of there. If you can't 444 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: stand he, get out of the kitchen. 445 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: Thank you for that. That's what I was looking for. 446 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: I was looking for a heat But Lee ellis, why 447 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 3: should this team be sellers? 448 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 5: Well, mister Coobe sort of makes some points here for me. 449 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 5: I think the heat or a good team playing much 450 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 5: better than we expected, but that don't they're not a 451 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: legit contender. And I think one of the reasons is 452 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: bam Adeboyo is a potential star, but he's not a 453 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 5: confirmed star right now. And the Heat have to look 454 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: towards next season where they can potentially land a legit 455 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 5: star next to Jimmy Butler and become that real contender. 456 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 4: But they have to do that. 457 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 5: In order to do that, they have to offload some 458 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 5: of these contracts that are sort of bloating their salary 459 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 5: in their payroll for next season. James Johnson has a 460 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 5: sixteen million dollar player option. We know Dion Waiders is 461 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 5: in a little bit of a strife, their personal strife, 462 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 5: but if they can somehow offload him and his twelve million, 463 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 5: that opens up a little bit more space. Even Kelly 464 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 5: Olynyk has a player option for twelve million dollars. 465 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: Now, in order to are they going to sell those guys? 466 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: Do people want those players? 467 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 5: You mentioned, Well, that's the thing these sort of players 468 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 5: with these player options did in twelve millions. I don't 469 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 5: think that's too bad for a team to bring that on, 470 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, it's not like it's a big, 471 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 5: fat Kevin Love contract, which I've already mentioned once or 472 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: twice on this show. But the point being here that 473 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 5: the Heat have these contracts that maybe they can just 474 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 5: help facilitate another move for somebody else out there. They 475 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 5: can be that team that's like, you know what, we 476 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 5: can take on, you know, someone's contract for the remainder 477 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 5: of this season, but if we can unload on those 478 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: ones next seas. Let's look at some of the names, 479 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 5: for example, who are free agents next season who the 480 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 5: Heat could potentially throw their big, big, big big contract 481 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 5: act thank you. 482 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 3: Let's see this exhibit contract to. 483 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 5: Anthony Davis is the prime free agent. Now we assume 484 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: he's staying with the Lakers, but the pat Riley led 485 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 5: Miami Heat might be able to sway him to come 486 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 5: to South Beach. Brandon Ingram restricted free agent having a 487 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 5: great season, He's going to get big bucks. Demarta Rosen's 488 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 5: also out there, Gordon Hayward, who also flirted with the 489 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: with the Heat a few years ago. I mean, the 490 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 5: main point I'm trying to make here is that if 491 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 5: the Heat want one of these legit stars, they have 492 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 5: to have the cap space available, and by offloading some 493 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: of these other guys, the James Johnson's, the Dion Waiters, 494 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 5: A Kelly and Nnix. They're going to create that space 495 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 5: for them. So I think right now they look at 496 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 5: this season and go, wow, this is going really well. 497 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler is bringing leadership and none of that baggage 498 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 5: that he's had in his previous stops in Minnesota and Philadelphia. Here. 499 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: Let's get him another superstar around him and really see 500 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 5: what this Hint team can do while keep being bomb 501 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 5: at a bam at a bayo on our ROSTERA. So 502 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 5: I think right now that heat. No, they're gonna make 503 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 5: the playoffs, They're not gonna win the championship, but they 504 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: can really turn an eye towards next season and beyond 505 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 5: where they could really make a big, big splash. 506 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: Well, you bring up their front office, and that brings 507 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: me to a question I have about their front office, 508 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 3: which is led by pat Riley, who is getting on 509 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: in age. He's going to be seventy five soon. If 510 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: he doesn't like to stan pad or step back at all, 511 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: he likes to go for it. Do you not think 512 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: that pat Riley sees it as an opportunity right now? 513 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 3: While they're playing well, they're up in the Eastern Conference 514 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: to go for it. 515 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 5: See. I think a key player in this scenario would 516 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 5: have been the Chris Paul and Okay, see, if things 517 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 5: weren't working out there, that he could have maybe tried 518 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 5: to get him to Miami this season. I don't think 519 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: that's happening anymore. So pat Riley realizes this is pretty 520 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 5: much the team they've got for the remainder of the season. 521 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 5: Maybe they'll move a peripheral piece here or there, but 522 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 5: they're not going to get that legit star as the 523 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 5: way things are right now, I think that pat Riley 524 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 5: is then going to use his skills in the off 525 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 5: season to persuade players to come to Miami. It's worked 526 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 5: in the past. I mean he brought Lebron James down there, 527 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 5: so that means pat Riley can really bring anybody to 528 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 5: South Beach. 529 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: Thank you for bringing the heat, mister Mellice, I appreciate that. 530 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 3: One last question before we move on. Enrique Iglesias has 531 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: been to Heat games. I know you like him. Why 532 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: has he not done some sort of I can be 533 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: or Tyler hero Baby collaboration. Are we going to see 534 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: that in the future? 535 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 5: I think it's in the works. 536 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 3: Great, yeah, okay, time for my ruling the Miami Heat. 537 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 3: He guys made great cases there. I'm gonna have to 538 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 3: call my Bailiffin for this one. Can we consult at 539 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: the bend? Please? What do you think about that? 540 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: And I like what Trey said, but he made some 541 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: good points too. 542 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, thank you for that consultation. The Miami Heat 543 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: should be buyers. How many more? We got one? Good? 544 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 4: Here we go. We do have one more. 545 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: We're wrapping up here shortly. But as the courtroom sketch artists, judge, 546 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: I just wanted to know if I've captured Attorney Leelis. 547 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 3: Close. 548 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 5: Yes, okay, I just wanted to make. 549 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: Sure a man of many hats all right. Our final 550 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: case number two one two one pertains to the San 551 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: Antonio Spurs, who find themselves just holding on to a 552 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: playoff squat in the Western Conference. Lee Ellis says it's 553 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: time to trade one of their borderline all stars before 554 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: the deadline, while Trey Kirby says looking to add a 555 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: piece or two could keep their post a season streak alive. 556 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: Let's hear the arguments the Spurs as sellers. Mister Ellis, 557 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: do you legitimately believe the Spurs should be sellers? 558 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 5: San Antonio Spurs are in a very interesting spot, very 559 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 5: rare spot. They could make the playoffs, maybe they won't 560 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 5: for the first time in forever, but it's one thing 561 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 5: from going from a perennial contender to a pretender, and 562 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 5: I think, sadly that's where the Spurs have slipped to. 563 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: And I think it's time for a shakeup. This team 564 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 5: doesn't tank very often, but when it does, by God, 565 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 5: it does it well. You have some players out there 566 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 5: who would command still a reasonable asset in return right now, 567 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 5: and that is their two borderline All Stars in Demata 568 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 5: Rosen and la Mark Sodrich. I should say borderline for 569 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 5: this season. They've been several time All Stars themselves throughout 570 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: their career, but a part of that shine has come 571 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 5: off the San Antonio Spurs, and I think if you 572 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: wait too long, you're going to realize that those guys 573 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 5: won't bring you the return that perhaps you would like 574 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 5: in the future. This future of this team is de 575 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 5: Jonte Murray, is Lunny Walker, is Bryn Forbes. I think 576 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 5: the San Antonio Spurs realized that, and really they have 577 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 5: to try to now surround those guys with some younger talent, 578 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: some better talent, and hope to grow and build through 579 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 5: those young players a little bit like they did back 580 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety seven when they got Tim Duncan number 581 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 5: one in the draft, they realized they had to go 582 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 5: right down to the bottom to start again. Well, this 583 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 5: time they don't have to necessarily go right to the bottom. 584 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 5: They can move on next season without having to give 585 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 5: up too much of where they are right now. Unfortunately, 586 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 5: every dynasty comes to an end, and I think for 587 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: the San Antonio Spurs, their playoff streak that began in 588 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety eight may end this season. 589 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, it began in eighteen ninety eight with Greg Popovich 590 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: taking the helm. Am I right about that? 591 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 5: Well he was there already, yes, yes, yes, he was. 592 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 3: In the front office the year prior started making some 593 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: moves to get to the bench in that season where 594 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: they were able to drop off and draft Tim Duncan. 595 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: Don't they owe a playoff attempt at the very least 596 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: to Greg Popovich, who's nearly seventy one legue. 597 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: Well, Greg Popovich knows a little bit about playoff success, 598 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 5: and I don't think he'd be too disappointed if the 599 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 5: Spurs decided that this was the season they move on. 600 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 5: As I said, everything comes to an end at some point. 601 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: Popovic has five championships out of six appearances. He has 602 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: the the prestige as being perhaps the greatest coach we've 603 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 5: ever seen in this league. One more playoff appearance really 604 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 5: isn't going to change a whole lot about that, And 605 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 5: no one's going to say, well, he didn't make it 606 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: in his last season, so he's not the greatest coach 607 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 5: we've ever seen. Instead, people are going to say, what 608 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 5: a run had to end by pop We love you, 609 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 5: see you in Tokyo. Let's go and have a glass 610 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 5: of wine. That's good. 611 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: That's enough. That's enough, is enough enough wine talk in my. 612 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: Courtroom, strange attorneys. 613 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: I rest my case, mister Kirby. Why should the San 614 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: Antonio Spurs be buyers? 615 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: Mister Mellice, I know you told us to be a 616 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: professional in your courtroom, but I have to. I have 617 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: to apologize for this gotcha moment. I must seed the 618 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 4: floor to my colleague, the Southern lawyer. 619 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, we got ourselves a case snuff. 620 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: If I recall curricular. The San Antonio Spurs don't make 621 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 4: in season trades. The last guy to get shipped out 622 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 4: of San Antonio during the season, he's a man by 623 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: the name Nonda de Gala. That's right under the car. 624 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: So I proposed to you, ladies and gentlemen of the juror. 625 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: Accent. 626 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 4: He get out of here, buddy, I propose a mistrial. 627 00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 4: What don't buy, don't sell, just stay. You don't have 628 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: to do anything. You're the Spurs. You're gonna make the playoffs. 629 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 4: I know this guy. He used to be a Spurs fan. 630 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 4: Something happened. Used to be a Nicks fan. Something happened. 631 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: Can't trust them. You can trust the Spurs. They always 632 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 4: make the playoffs. They are in the playoffs right now. 633 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: And guess what, mister ellis The San Antonio Spurs are 634 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 4: eight and seven in their last fifteen games. That's over 635 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: five hundred, buddy, that's better than any other team that's 636 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: contending for the Western Conferences eight seed. 637 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: The San Antonio I do not appreciate the word buddy. 638 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: You trying to intimidate anyone in the courtroom. 639 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: Carry on, fair enough, fair enough, kind surs, the San 640 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 4: Antonio Spurs, the kind Spurs will be making the playoffs, 641 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: and then in the summer is when they should get busy. 642 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: LaMarcus Aldridge, DeMar De Rosen, Rudy Gay, Patty Mills will 643 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: then be going into the last season of their deals. 644 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 4: DeRozan has a player option he may or may not 645 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: choose the Spurs. They don't need to get out of 646 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: their comfort zone. You're gonna make the playoffs for Greg Popovic. 647 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: The thing you should be buying is bought out guys. 648 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 4: Find somebody who can help you play defense. They're twenty 649 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 4: second in the league in defensive rating. They need somebody 650 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: out there who is committed to the defensive end, who 651 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 4: can help them get a stop when they absolutely need it. 652 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 4: I think the Spurs are doing okay. They haven't been 653 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: the Spurs that were used to. They don't look like 654 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 4: the Spurs that we're used to, but they're still getting results. 655 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: You can't count them out. I rest my case. 656 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 5: Objection. Yes, mister Alice, No, I say that in the 657 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 5: quote all the time, didn't I just I just wanted 658 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 5: to say it. 659 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: Mister Alice objections. 660 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 4: He's making a mockery of the court. 661 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: Well, mister Kirby, you shouldn't be calling me mister Ellis. 662 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: I am the honorable mister Mellice, Judge Melleson and for 663 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: that it's time for my ruling. And for that reason, 664 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: mister Kirby, I can't believe I'm saying this, but for 665 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 3: the first time in the history of the Trade Deadline Court, 666 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: like Lisa Loebe, the San Antonio Spurs should stay. This 667 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: court is a. 668 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: Journey that brings today's session to a close. I'm Jay Skeets, 669 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: thanking you for joining us and reminding you if you're 670 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: ever involved in an NBA dispute such as the ones 671 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: you heard here today and you just can't seem to 672 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: work it out, don't resort to taking matters into your 673 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: own hands. You take them to a trade deadline court.