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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at advocusla dot com.

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Speaker 2: Meg is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a guy named James.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we're gonna call him and

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Speaker 2: see if I tells us why he's ghosting her and

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Speaker 2: maybe get her another date. But first, Meg, how long

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Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from James.

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Speaker 3: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: We live in the same building, so I actually saw him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, so I see him in the elevator all

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Speaker 1: the time. So I actually saw him like this morning,

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Speaker 1: and uh, it's a little bit awkward just because of

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Speaker 1: all of this. So but I haven't heard, like, he

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Speaker 1: hasn't kind of followed up by a text or phone,

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Speaker 1: which is what I was kind of waiting for, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, did you reach out to him other than

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Speaker 4: seeing him in the elevator. No.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's so at the end of our date, which

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Speaker 1: went really well, by the way, so that's yeah, So

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Speaker 1: I was sort of expecting a call, and then this

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Speaker 1: morning when I saw him, I just kind of was like,

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Speaker 1: I have to say some things I haven't heard from him,

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Speaker 1: So I just said like, like, hey, you know, do

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Speaker 1: you want to go for dinner sometime, And he basically

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Speaker 1: said I'll get back to you, which I feel like

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Speaker 1: is a bad sign.

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Speaker 5: Yeah probably, Yeah, yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 1: But it was so great, Like we went to this

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Speaker 1: trivia night that he had been telling me about because

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Speaker 1: you know, I had seen him in the elevator. We'd

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Speaker 1: make small chat all the time. I actually have a

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Speaker 1: tiny confession that I would kind of plan to be

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Speaker 1: in the elevator when he was there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, oh, if I keep running into

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Speaker 6: this guy, so yeah, so I kep like running into

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Speaker 6: him and we were chatting and he had told me

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Speaker 6: with this trivia night, and then finally he asked me out,

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Speaker 6: which I was really psyched about, and we just like

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Speaker 6: had this great night.

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Speaker 1: We even went back to his place afterwards and we

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Speaker 1: had a great night cap and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be not PG thirteen, but we had a pretty great

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Speaker 1: kid at the end of it. So so anyway, that's

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Speaker 1: why I was totally expecting to hear from him. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know, well, did something happen, did anything actually go down

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Speaker 4: on the date that may have made it a little

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Speaker 4: bit awkward or that you felt like was a turning point.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's obviously I have been analyzing this for days

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Speaker 1: because it's all I can even get sure. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: so the only thing. So I started to go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe it was this because like my sister, she's going

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Speaker 1: through a bit of a bad kind of breakup right now.

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Speaker 1: She's a single mom, so she's having a hard time.

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Speaker 1: She did call me a couple of times. Oh, it

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Speaker 1: might have been like three or four times when we

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Speaker 1: were on the date, and I did answer because I

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I've got to answer. It's my sister,

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Speaker 1: you know, she needs me. But I'm kind of wondering

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Speaker 1: did that kill the vibe? And does he think I'm rude,

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Speaker 1: you know for answering the phone so much? And then

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Speaker 1: I'm like, if he did that to me, yeah, would

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Speaker 1: I be a little pissed. So I'm wondering if that's it,

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Speaker 1: did he say.

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Speaker 5: Anything about it, or did he seem annoyed by that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, full disclosure. One of them may have come when

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Speaker 1: we were kind of making out a little bit, So

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Speaker 1: I guess he seemed a little annoyed when that got

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Speaker 1: kind of I kind of feel like, I guess, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was kind of the end of the night sort

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Speaker 1: of thing. So but he didn't say anything about it,

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Speaker 1: Like he just was like, Okay, you know, good night.

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Speaker 4: Did he know who you were talking to? Like, did

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Speaker 1: I mean, I told him it was. But now I'm thinking, like,

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Speaker 1: or something like? Now, I'm not sure because that's what

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Speaker 1: I told him, But I don't know. Would I be

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Speaker 1: suspicious probably to be honest.

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Speaker 5: So what was the last thing you texted him?

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Speaker 1: The last thing? Oh, the last So the last thing

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Speaker 1: I texted him was had a great time, you know, thanks,

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Speaker 1: he paid for dinner and you know everything. So I said,

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Speaker 1: that was after I left, and then I didn't hear

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Speaker 1: anything back from that, and then saw him in the

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Speaker 5: That's awkward.

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Speaker 2: That's an awkward elevator, right, all right, we'll see if

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Speaker 2: we can figure it out for you. Then we'll play

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Speaker 2: a song come Back, and then call him and see

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Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why is ghosting you and maybe

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Speaker 2: get you another date?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll play a song come back. Gave your first

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Speaker 2: a follow up next if you're just joining us for

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Speaker 2: today's first day follow up. Meg is on the phone

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Speaker 2: and she's getting ghosted by a guy named James. So

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Speaker 2: we're about to call him and see if he'll tell

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Speaker 2: us why is ghosting her and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Meg, why don't you catch

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Speaker 2: everybody up on your situation?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I went out with this amazing guy, James,

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Speaker 1: who lives in my building. I see him all the

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Speaker 1: time in the elevator. He finally asked me out. We

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Speaker 1: had a great time, there was even some makeouts. But

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Speaker 1: it's been like, oh my god, it's been weeks now.

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Speaker 1: He has not responded to my last text, and I've

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Speaker 1: recently seen him in the elevator and basically said, hey,

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Speaker 1: do you want to go for dinner sometime, and he

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Speaker 1: basically said I'll get back to you, which doesn't feel positive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, And the reason you think you might

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Speaker 2: be getting ghosted is because you kept answering your phone, right,

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 1: My sister kept calling during the date and she's having

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Speaker 1: a tough time, so I did keep answering my phone. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to be honest.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, Well are you ready for us

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Speaker 2: to call him and see if I tell us why?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm ready. I'm nervous, but I'm ready.

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Speaker 5: Here we go. Hi, I'm asking to James. Please.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is changed, James.

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Speaker 5: How you doing?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 2: My name is Jewbell. I'm calling from a radio show.

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Speaker 2: It's called The Jewbel Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi, James, the show's here too. I'm Nina, Hi, and

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Speaker 4: I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? What's up? Not much?

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Speaker 5: Have you heard the show before?

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Speaker 4: Ever?

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Speaker 3: Have something to do with like first dates or something? Yes?

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Speaker 5: Actually it does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We do a segment on the show it's called the

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Speaker 2: first Day follow Up, So where if you go out

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Speaker 2: on a date with somebody and you up ghosting them,

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Speaker 2: they can email us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 2: and ask why.

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Speaker 5: So, we got an email about you from somebody. That's

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Speaker 5: why we're calling.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, I actually have before. Oh my god,

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Speaker 7: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we got an email about you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, are you sting somebody?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You have any idea who?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, who do you think it is?

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Speaker 3: Meg? Yes?

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Speaker 5: It is Meg. She also told us she saw you

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Speaker 5: this morning in the elevator. That's awkward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, we did. We're in the ovator.

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Speaker 7: We live in the same building, so it's kind of

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us why you're ghosting her? She said

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, here's the story. So, I mean, yeah, honestly,

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Speaker 7: we did have a great date. I had a good time,

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Speaker 7: and you know, she's super nice, beautiful. I think we

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Speaker 7: and this might sound like a small thing, but it's

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Speaker 3: Breaker for me.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a dog?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't have a dog.

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Speaker 7: Right now, we're not allowed to have dogs in our buildings.

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Speaker 3: But I'm planning on buying a house someday and I

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Speaker 3: I grew up a dog. I love dogs. It's just

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Speaker 8: But what did she say? Like she say like she

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Speaker 7: Well, she was complaining about one of her friends bogs

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Speaker 7: But then like let it get to the point of like,

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Speaker 7: and that's because of that I don't like dogs at

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Speaker 7: all and not for me. It was like, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: That's just not for me, man.

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Speaker 5: So that's it, just that she doesn't like dogs that honestly, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's a huge deal breaker for me.

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Speaker 7: Like you like, sure you could, you can tolerate dogs,

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Speaker 7: but I got to have a dog, and I can't

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Speaker 3: In their lives.

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Speaker 4: Ran, everybody's got their thing. I've never met anybody that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't either.

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Speaker 8: But also I would do try to say, like Devil's Advocate,

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Speaker 4: Is that like bad to say?

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Speaker 7: I could see that, But you know, then you then

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Speaker 3: The way you had to hear it.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, it's just to say the things that.

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Speaker 3: She was saying, because it was it was a gut

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Speaker 3: punch to me.

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Speaker 2: the phone listening and wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hy Jane's.

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Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, hey, I fort about this.

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Speaker 1: Part I got. I can't believe this, Like my god,

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Speaker 1: and if I had like a hundred guesses, I would

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Speaker 1: never guess this is why you're ghosting me.

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Speaker 3: Listen. It's just like, this is why I didn't want

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Speaker 3: to bring it up.

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Speaker 7: It feels like a little thing to a lot of people,

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Speaker 7: but it's a big thing to me. It's a big

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Speaker 7: part of my life. And you know, I really did

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Speaker 7: feel like we had some chemistry and you know, and

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Speaker 7: but just it's a hard no.

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Speaker 3: For me that it's a real deal breaker.

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Speaker 1: But oh my god, we did.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think we had like amazing chemistry, including on that night,

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Speaker 1: like the build up to our first date all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I guess I'm just like, okay, what if it

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Speaker 1: was like I'm okay, I could learn to be okay

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Speaker 1: around dogs, like I just wouldn't like kept them as

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Speaker 1: if I was around a dog, I could be okay

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Speaker 1: with dogs. If not that I think they're evil, I

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Speaker 1: just don't like them. They're like I do think they're messy.

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Speaker 1: And there's all these dog here everywhere and like whatever.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, does that change.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. This is this is what

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about.

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Speaker 7: This is a no for me, absolutely not Like you

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Speaker 7: can't even get for a sentence without saying something negative.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, but like it could be worse.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like there's so many worse things. Like

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Speaker 1: it's not like I'm like a murderer or like a stalker, like,

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Speaker 1: and I would like, those are real reasons to not

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Speaker 7: I just feel like, I don't know, someone who doesn't

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Speaker 7: like those could be a murderer.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I just feel like this is.

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Speaker 1: Such I mean, is that a thing like where you like,

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Speaker 1: don't trust people who don't like people say that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what does that even mean? Like you don't

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Speaker 1: trust people who don't like dogs like or you absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Don't trust people who don't like dogs. That is a

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Speaker 3: hard line. Absolutely don't try.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was thinking it might have been fun

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Speaker 7: it get as far as it did.

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Speaker 3: But I'm kind of done at this point. It's a

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Speaker 3: hard note for me.

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, And now knowing that you were just like

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Speaker 1: hanging on for one night stand starts to make it

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Speaker 1: feel like a no for me too. So that was

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Speaker 1: a little a little much to hear. So what do

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Speaker 1: I and now if this is great? We live in Like,

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Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? When I see you

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Speaker 1: in the elevator? We can ignore all of this?

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Speaker 3: And well, I don't know, you know what time I

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Speaker 3: ride the elevator every day? Maybe you can avoid getting

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Speaker 3: in the elevator with James.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to go on another day with Meg?

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Speaker 2: Will pay for it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I thought yeah, if I mean we

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Speaker 1: could get together and talk it out in person and.

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Speaker 7: Not like this. No.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, I do not want to be murdered.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well I guess you got your answer. Meg

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Speaker 5: and James. Thank you. Thank you for telling us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. I really do like the show.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, thank you, Jules.

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Speaker 3: First date follow up