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Speaker 1: Your ridiculous football team? What did you ridiculous? Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: are gonna win the ANFC north Well they're they're game behind,
Speaker 1: they're half a game out of the wild card. I
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Speaker 1: There is. First of all, I guess you guys had
Speaker 1: a spectacular week behind the desk. We did, Okay, so
Speaker 1: we're talking about a an NFL weekend. We'll get to
Speaker 1: every little detail we can to the next two hours. Uh.
Speaker 1: A weekend where the Vikings, Bengals, Lions, and Colts were
Speaker 1: the most picked teams in circum million three. I'll say
Speaker 1: that again, the Vikings, Bengals, Lions, and Colts in that order.
Speaker 1: A weekend where Gino Smith, Mike White, Trevor Simming and
Speaker 1: Cooper rush one National Football League games. Uh, and the
Speaker 1: Bengals alone and survivor Circus survivor. And I think this
Speaker 1: is reflective of most survivor pools around the nation, took
Speaker 1: out over forty percent of all entrants. When all was
Speaker 1: said and done yesterday, forty four point two percent of
Speaker 1: all entrants were out there. By the way, are the
Speaker 1: circus survivor eliminations from yesterday. Look at that forty eight
Speaker 1: hundred seventy one of the ninety three gone yesterday. We're
Speaker 1: on the Bengals and we'll get to all the details
Speaker 1: about that here momentarily. So for the first time. And
Speaker 1: by the way, that the Chiefs, who I'm on in survivor,
Speaker 1: that's a whole mess of entries tonight as well, So
Speaker 1: hopefully no more carnage for those of us who have
Speaker 1: the chiefs. But we have finally gotten to the point
Speaker 1: this year, and that where we have fewer entries now
Speaker 1: than we did to begin last season. We've finally gotten
Speaker 1: to that point. So tell the whole story. The prize
Speaker 1: money is a lot more too. Oh yeah, well, there
Speaker 1: were four thousand eight entries this year and there were
Speaker 1: ninety I believe to start last year. But there's no
Speaker 1: time him to lose. As they say, let's go to
Speaker 1: Thursday night because there's so much to talk about here. Well,
Speaker 1: you have you have arguably the two best games of
Speaker 1: the NFL season to cover right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: Because the Jets are playing the Colts on Thursday Night
Speaker 1: Football this week. That's one of the best games in
Speaker 1: the NFL season. The two games involving from yesterday. Yes,
Speaker 1: now what you're saying, um, yes, So let's start with
Speaker 1: the Jets. The Jets beat the Bengals yesterday in the
Speaker 1: Survivor Carnage game. And for those who had the Bengals
Speaker 1: will get to the stuff at the end here, but
Speaker 1: let's just say this, thirty four to thirty one Jets.
Speaker 1: In the first half of this game. The Jets were
Speaker 1: minus three in turnovers. They were minus three in turnovers
Speaker 1: in the first half of this game, and they were
Speaker 1: down three points. That's when you kind of knew something
Speaker 1: something was going on here with this game. They were
Speaker 1: up seven and nothing and plus territory. Mike White threw
Speaker 1: a pick. It was returned sixty five yards. They did
Speaker 1: make a goal line stand, but then Mike White turned
Speaker 1: right around through an interception deep in his own territory
Speaker 1: that led to his seven van tie. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Jets also in the first half missed a fifty
Speaker 1: four yard field goal that didn't come back to haunt them.
Speaker 1: The Crowder fumble late in the half did. That led
Speaker 1: to a seventeen to seven Cincinnati lead. White also was
Speaker 1: hurt midway through the jets first drive of the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson came in briefly. Joe Flacco wasn't ready yet.
Speaker 1: But here's the deal. The Jets scored on five straight
Speaker 1: possessions between the second and fourth quarters, three touchdowns, two
Speaker 1: field goals. With White back in the game, they were
Speaker 1: down thirty one to twenty. He engineers in eight play
Speaker 1: seventy five yard touchdown drive, Ty Johnson nineteen yard touchdown catch,
Speaker 1: two point play fails. First play for Cincinnati. On the
Speaker 1: ensuing drive, Shack Lawson from point blank range, tips of
Speaker 1: the Borough pass picks it. Two plays later, White to
Speaker 1: cross for thirteen yards. White then catches two point trickeration
Speaker 1: from Crowder, who's been great everywhere he's been. Duke Washington
Speaker 1: Jets thirty four thirty one Jets, and just like that,
Speaker 1: we have drama. The Jets stopped the Bengals on the
Speaker 1: ensuing drive, but with all three timeouts in a two
Speaker 1: minute warning left the Bengals correctly punted the football. Here's
Speaker 1: where it gets Ackey the first of a myriad of
Speaker 1: wackiness yesterday in the NFL. With two oh eight left,
Speaker 1: two minutes and eight seconds left in the game, Cincinnati
Speaker 1: is all their time outs. The Jets then try to
Speaker 1: bail out the Bengals. Elijah Moore on a reverse runs
Speaker 1: out of bounds with two oh four left, and for
Speaker 1: those of us who were not on the Bengals and survivor, like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Then at the two minute warning,
Speaker 1: the Jets false start, so it gets the third and
Speaker 1: eleven at their own twenty. Cincinnati still has all three
Speaker 1: time outs. Mike White, who had a spectacular game which
Speaker 1: we'll get to in a minute, throws it short of
Speaker 1: the sticks to Ty Johnson, a play that had no
Speaker 1: chance of converting whatsoever. Ty Johnson, then, like any football
Speaker 1: player might do, lowers his head and Mike Hilton, the
Speaker 1: dB of the Bengals, has the horrific luck apparently, as
Speaker 1: we learned moments moments after, of ducking his head at
Speaker 1: the same time and is called a flag goes on
Speaker 1: the field. He's You're like, oh my god, what is
Speaker 1: this flag? Unnecessary? Roughness helmet to helmet. Horrible call. Horrific,
Speaker 1: horrible call, I mean just horrible. Cincinnati still has two timeouts.
Speaker 1: They use one of them after a short first down game.
Speaker 1: Then on second and eight, Michael Carter could have clinched
Speaker 1: the game, but inexplicably, inexplicably slide short of the sticks.
Speaker 1: You're like, well, what is happening? A third and one?
Speaker 1: Then Mike White sneaks the ball. I have no idea
Speaker 1: to this moment if he got it, but we never
Speaker 1: saw a measurement. They gave him the first down ball game.
Speaker 1: I'm texting jeff I'm like, how did he flay? How
Speaker 1: did is? Are they gonna measure nothing? First down? We win?
Speaker 1: We meaning everybody who didn't have the Bengals. White ends
Speaker 1: up Mike White, the Great Mike White and dare I say, Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: who's a Jets fan? Do we have a quarterback controversy?
Speaker 1: He keeps playing this way when Zack Wilson is healthy?
Speaker 1: Methinks we do? Do. Mike Mike White out of Western
Speaker 1: Kentucky thirty seven of forty five for War oh five,
Speaker 1: four or five. Only Cam Newton with more in his
Speaker 1: debut since nineteen fifty the most buy a Jetson's viny
Speaker 1: testa verity in two thousand three touchdowns. Those two picks.
Speaker 1: I mentioned uh Sack twice. He only threw eight in
Speaker 1: completions on forty five passes. Carter fifteen seventy seven on
Speaker 1: the ground with a touchdown, nine catches yards, Crowder eight
Speaker 1: for eighty four five hundred and eleven total yards, and
Speaker 1: all the while by being minus two in turnovers for
Speaker 1: the game, minus three and the first half of minus
Speaker 1: two in the game. And then there's the Colts. I mean,
Speaker 1: we were gonna take a whole show to do one game.
Speaker 1: There's the Colts who lose to the Titans. More on
Speaker 1: the Titans later, because that's the other thing that happened
Speaker 1: this morning. Derrick Henry could be out for the year
Speaker 1: case you missed, which is just so sad for football fans.
Speaker 1: It's so sad for betters, which will I'll get to also.
Speaker 1: But Indianapolis they lose to Tennessee. Indianapolis had a fourth
Speaker 1: and two at the Tennessee thirty eight less than you know,
Speaker 1: barely two minutes into the game. They converted. They got
Speaker 1: a touchdown on a subsequent fourth and goal from the two,
Speaker 1: then fourth three at the Tennessee forty with two nine
Speaker 1: left in the first quarter, they were up fourteen nothing,
Speaker 1: they went for it and failed. That led to a
Speaker 1: Tennessee touchdown drive. So those are some of the fourth
Speaker 1: the fourth down at Shenanigans of the first half. But
Speaker 1: while Carson Wentz his ball handling is is clearly the
Speaker 1: most awesome thing I've ever seen? What have we said
Speaker 1: on this show over and over? He does that whirling
Speaker 1: jurist Jamis Winston thing and it just kills him. And
Speaker 1: at the most important time of that game, first intend
Speaker 1: at their own eight with one thirty three left in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Wentz one of those things where he
Speaker 1: shifts it to the other other hand and he just
Speaker 1: throws it up in there. Elijah Molden two yard touchdown interception.
Speaker 1: Is that the worst interception you've ever seen? Yes, um,
Speaker 1: sixty five years old and watching football as I can remember,
Speaker 1: might be the worst interception I've ever seen in my
Speaker 1: life given the circum giving the circumstances tie game with
Speaker 1: would you say a minute thirty three seconds left at
Speaker 1: your own eight? Yeah, I mean that's the that that's
Speaker 1: just so incredibly stupid. Just stupid. But you know what
Speaker 1: the Colts have up their sleepy They have perfected the
Speaker 1: throw the ball up in the air. They've done this
Speaker 1: to they throw it up and then more teams should
Speaker 1: incorporate this. I'm not even joking, throw it up in
Speaker 1: the air and have a dB run mindlessly into your
Speaker 1: wide out and get a big flag spot of foul.
Speaker 1: So they did it yesterday. First intent at the Tennessee
Speaker 1: forty six with one thirty three left in the third
Speaker 1: quarter when they were down seventeen and fourteen. And then,
Speaker 1: of course famously after that horrible pick a p I
Speaker 1: in the end zone. Uh, second intent at the Tennessee
Speaker 1: forty three with thirty two seconds left in the game
Speaker 1: and we're going to overtime. Of course, then whence there
Speaker 1: was another pick with five sixty six left in overtime
Speaker 1: of his own tent seven. Kevin Byard returns it to
Speaker 1: the thirty that led to Randy Bullock forty five yard.
Speaker 1: The second pick was worse than the first. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yes, Jeff No. The bizarre thing from just
Speaker 1: from the gambling perspective with the Wentz pick six that actually,
Speaker 1: other than negably passed a pick six was significantly better
Speaker 1: for cults betters than a safety because because obviously maybe
Speaker 1: they don't even get the ball back right guaranteed to
Speaker 1: get the ball back, of course, they scored a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and let's face it, you get the ball first, and
Speaker 1: over time, you're gonna win more times than not. The
Speaker 1: theme of both of those games is that the NFL
Speaker 1: seriously has to change those two rules. The spot of
Speaker 1: foul pass interference you have to you have to be
Speaker 1: able to make it fifteen or that, and I know
Speaker 1: people like, oh, just what we want more subjectivity for
Speaker 1: the rest. I'm sorry that changes the game too much.
Speaker 1: I've been saying that for years. Should either be you know,
Speaker 1: one more decision for the reps. I understand, but either
Speaker 1: spotifile or fifteen yards in a first down. You know,
Speaker 1: I've said this to Brent before, Brent Musberg, and he says,
Speaker 1: we will. Now then then all the d backs will
Speaker 1: just grabbing. It will be a fifty year penalty over
Speaker 1: and over. I'm like, that's fine, that's better to me.
Speaker 1: By the way. The other thing is that the runner
Speaker 1: lowing going back to the Bengals Jets things, the runner
Speaker 1: lowering his head and the defender playing actual football and
Speaker 1: getting flagged for playing football. We've got to do this
Speaker 1: just you cannot bet on this stuff anyway. All of
Speaker 1: that to say, we'll talk more about over the break,
Speaker 1: but that was the fact that these two teams ended
Speaker 1: up playing each other with probably the most eventful games,
Speaker 1: and there were so many eventful games. Yesterday, I have
Speaker 1: Indianapolis minus seven and a half. WHOA, you're way low,
Speaker 1: am I. Yeah, it's ten and a half. My numbers
Speaker 1: come more like fourteen. Oh my god, I know we've
Speaker 1: gone this whole segment. We're almost getting one game. Yes,
Speaker 1: this was gonna happen, this thing where the cults are
Speaker 1: overrated by the market. I'll take the Jets. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about it. Let's talk about it afterwards. Um, so
Speaker 1: much coming up, including you know, waiting on a Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry m R. Right this morning, we'll talk about it
Speaker 1: all A numbers game in visa guessing lines the Sports
Speaker 1: Betting Network. In case you missed it this morning, here
Speaker 1: is the what only can be described for all football
Speaker 1: fans and all and I believe football betters as well,
Speaker 1: which I'll get too momentarily as really sad news Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: This first from Adam Schefter over at ESPN. UM you
Speaker 1: may have seen Derrick Henry limping on the sidelines during
Speaker 1: the game. I should I didn't really think anything of it, um,
Speaker 1: as I'm sure most didn't. But this morning, Adam Schefter,
Speaker 1: Titans running back Derrick Henry suffered a potentially season ending
Speaker 1: foot injury during the Titans thirty one win over Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Sources reported to ESPN Henry is undergoing an m r
Speaker 1: I today to determine the full extent of the damage.
Speaker 1: And then Jay Glazer has added to this by being
Speaker 1: a little more specific on the injury. Jay Glazer saying
Speaker 1: hearing Derrick Henry broke the fifth metatarsal of his foot.
Speaker 1: No bueno, says Jake Lazer. No bueno indeed, And for
Speaker 1: me in a sport, in a in a league the NFL,
Speaker 1: where betting pre flop a t s is about as
Speaker 1: plink oh as it comes. Betting the Titans, for those
Speaker 1: of us who had them ranked, I think a pro
Speaker 1: appriately much higher than conventional wisdom, and I think that's
Speaker 1: bared out the last few weeks. This was one of
Speaker 1: the few little slivers of betting edge I think we've
Speaker 1: had in this league thus far this year, and now
Speaker 1: that could be going away. So just and just brutal
Speaker 1: for football. And then of course it has implications and
Speaker 1: all kinds of betting markets like most rushing yards, Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the year. Um. But all of that just
Speaker 1: that was that was what made the Titans so interesting
Speaker 1: and such a different kind of football teams that they
Speaker 1: were throwback. They always had this get out of jail
Speaker 1: free card with Derrick Henry. And now is there a
Speaker 1: player that means more to his team than Derrick Henry does?
Speaker 1: Not for non quarterback? For sure. There's their last three
Speaker 1: games to beat the Bills, the Chiefs, and the Colts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happens now? Speaking of which, let's get back to
Speaker 1: the cultures Titans later. I think your number is way
Speaker 1: too short, and I see the game ten and ten
Speaker 1: and a half. I'm gonna be on the high end
Speaker 1: of the market ten and a half. Uh. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's the Jet. Let's not get carried with one game.
Speaker 1: Michael White played great, you know, Michael White played great.
Speaker 1: Inside joke, Uh, but it's still the Colts. I say
Speaker 1: I say this anecdotally. I can't go back and prove it,
Speaker 1: because my thought process here is way too subjective. But
Speaker 1: I think on these Thursday night games, the veteran team,
Speaker 1: the veteran coach, the veteran quarterback is gonna weigh out perform.
Speaker 1: You have a rookie staff with the Jets, not just
Speaker 1: head coach, the whole staff. You have a he's not
Speaker 1: a rookie, but a completely untested quarterback before yesterday. I
Speaker 1: think those kind of factors weigh in on the Colts,
Speaker 1: and I like the Colts a lot. In this game,
Speaker 1: my numbers come to like fourteen uh and and again
Speaker 1: I'm looking diminishing returns. Mark that off on your Bingo card,
Speaker 1: you know, but I thought that was probably a little
Speaker 1: too high. But I'm gonna be on the high end
Speaker 1: of the market here. Like I said, it's ten ten
Speaker 1: and a half, I'm gonna use ten and a half.
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with that anything you said. And Mike
Speaker 1: White could be a one hit wonder. We don't know, right, um,
Speaker 1: But I just don't understand the love for the Colts.
Speaker 1: I just don't well, you know, I gotta say I
Speaker 1: I had them too, you know, I mean I had
Speaker 1: that love for him too. So I mean that was
Speaker 1: one of the games. I think when we went back
Speaker 1: the last week, I wasn't one of the sides I gave,
Speaker 1: but I had two winners, by the way, but that
Speaker 1: was not one of them. But I did like the
Speaker 1: number higher on the Colts. I like, I like the
Speaker 1: move on the Colts like that didn't dispute it. But
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, Jeffrey. Maybe we have a
Speaker 1: shorter game to get to them. That that last one,
Speaker 1: which is epic, well it goes goes backwards from there.
Speaker 1: Houston and Miami. Oh, there's not much to say here,
Speaker 1: is there? One? In seven verses one and seven, can
Speaker 1: I make two lines, a Torodd Taylor line in a
Speaker 1: Davis Mills line. I think I will Houston yesterday in defeat,
Speaker 1: and what a cosmetic score that ended up being thirty
Speaker 1: eight to twenty two. After being down thirty eight to
Speaker 1: nothing to the Rams yesterday, Davis Mills for three ten
Speaker 1: to touchdowns, one Picky sacked five times and Cook six
Speaker 1: of eighty three or six eighty three, four touchdown. Then
Speaker 1: Miami loses to the Bills to thirty nine for two
Speaker 1: oh five no touchdowns. One Picks act twice four for
Speaker 1: ten on the ground with a touchdown. Davante Parker eight
Speaker 1: catches eighty five yards but only two d sixty two
Speaker 1: totally yards for the Miami offense and their twenty six
Speaker 1: to eleven loss at Buffalo yesterday, the Miami offense just
Speaker 1: painful to watch. They were minus two in turnovers, including
Speaker 1: a horribly botched snap inside the red zone at the
Speaker 1: twelve yard line with the game tie three to three
Speaker 1: with twenty four seconds left in the second quarter. The
Speaker 1: snap hit a a Mike gasec I think Mike Gasecki
Speaker 1: was in motion. Mike Gisicki was in motion and it
Speaker 1: hit him, hit him in the booty or something, and
Speaker 1: then it was a fumble. It was just awful. Nine
Speaker 1: penalties or fifty eight yards. Also for the Dolphins, flora Is,
Speaker 1: by the way, down seventeen to nine, went for two,
Speaker 1: got it to make it seventeen to eleven with nine
Speaker 1: thirty nine left. So on another day we could have
Speaker 1: the whole knocking it down from eight to six point
Speaker 1: conversion conversation, because I'm all for it, and I know
Speaker 1: some people makes their heads explode, but mathematically it is
Speaker 1: the thing to do. It is if you want to
Speaker 1: win the game, that's the thing to do, because ultimately
Speaker 1: it gives you a roughly at chance. Trust me on
Speaker 1: the numbers here winning the game, whereas kicking the extra
Speaker 1: point essentially gives you a percent no chance of tying
Speaker 1: the game. So yeah, I am, he was explained to me.
Speaker 1: I understand. Anyways, it's used in at Miami. If it's
Speaker 1: if it's Davis Mills, it's Miami by seven. If it's
Speaker 1: Trod Taylor, it's Miami by no more than three. Well,
Speaker 1: I made the number considering Uh, Davis Mills the quarterback,
Speaker 1: UM seven. Uh, well, my numbers came to six. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Miami. He's talking about disappointing. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're the most they got and my
Speaker 1: numbers coming six, I see it seven. Uh, there's some
Speaker 1: seven with juice on the favorite. I see seven and
Speaker 1: a half juice on the dog. I'm gonna open seven.
Speaker 1: I think it is a decent place to start. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go there. Okay, next Jeffrey Denver, Dallas, Denver head Dallas,
Speaker 1: Oh god, Denver two. It just doesn't matter what team
Speaker 1: you bring up. There's something to talk about today. Denver
Speaker 1: beats Washington, they snap a four game losing streak of
Speaker 1: the process Teddy Bridgewater nineteen of two thirteen, one touchdown
Speaker 1: note pick stacked four times Melvin Gordon ten or forty
Speaker 1: seven ten for forty seven rather on the ground and
Speaker 1: touch down, three catches fifteen yards and the touchdown catching
Speaker 1: the ball seven of thirteen on third downs were the Broncos.
Speaker 1: They only had two hundred and seventy three total yards.
Speaker 1: They only had seventeen first downs. That was plenty to
Speaker 1: beat Washington seventeen to ten. Oh god, Denver did nothing.
Speaker 1: Still beat Washington and covered and covered. That was one
Speaker 1: of the sides I gave was Denver. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: that happened. With thirty seven seconds left in this game,
Speaker 1: Denver's up seventeen to ten. Denver decides, you know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna run the football. They fumble it and recover it
Speaker 1: on first down, and you're like, WHOA, what an opportunity
Speaker 1: that would that was for Washington. My goodness, that was
Speaker 1: the moment second down Denver decides, you know we're gonna
Speaker 1: throw the ball and risking incomplete pass to stop the clock. Also,
Speaker 1: because why make Washington used timeouts? Incomplete pass third down.
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, at this point, Denver, you fumbled on
Speaker 1: first down and we're lucky enough to recover. You threw
Speaker 1: it incomplete pass. Just just have Teddy Bridgewater kneel on it. Nope,
Speaker 1: they run it and they do fumble it again. At
Speaker 1: this time they lose the fumble with twenty With twenty
Speaker 1: one seconds left, Washington gainst the ball to Dever twenty four.
Speaker 1: Like this is bisar chick without the return. This is
Speaker 1: just like you can't if Denver forget if they lose it,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff should be fired on the spot. Of course,
Speaker 1: Washington couldn't do anything with it. So there's that Oh god,
Speaker 1: who are they playing? Oh? Dallas, Dallas last night? Man
Speaker 1: Cooper uh and the Cowboys they sit dock and they
Speaker 1: beat the Vikings. That is, this has more to do
Speaker 1: with the Vikings to me than it does the Cowboys. Yes,
Speaker 1: but we'll get to that. The Cowboys. Cooper rush twenty
Speaker 1: four or forty three, twenty five, two touchdowns, one pick,
Speaker 1: sack three times, Cooper eight for one to touchdown, Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb six catches for one twelve, Wilson three catches for
Speaker 1: eighty four and in a game changing touchdown, also one
Speaker 1: of one as a passer for thirty five yards. What
Speaker 1: a beautiful dime that was on the run. How gorgeous
Speaker 1: was that pass from Cedric Wilson? They were seven or
Speaker 1: fourteen on third down. Dallas won that game last night
Speaker 1: minus two in turnovers, despite being minus two in turnovers,
Speaker 1: and despite committing eleven penalties for nineties six yards and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go to six and one. Cowboys, buy a
Speaker 1: bunch here. I would think I would think it'd be
Speaker 1: close to ten. I said, Dallas minus nine and a half,
Speaker 1: and what my number comes to nine and a half. Uh,
Speaker 1: most guys have this off Westgate. Kudos to them. They
Speaker 1: have it up eight and a half and that's the
Speaker 1: only one in town. I see it as low as
Speaker 1: seven and a half on the on the internet. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wag just dak means too much, you know, um,
Speaker 1: but nine and a half I think with Dac and
Speaker 1: I kind of have a hunch. Holl play here. Gives
Speaker 1: me a minute for a little speech that I have
Speaker 1: with you know, all these anytime you're betting dogs and
Speaker 1: people always looking at oh, they have no chance to win.
Speaker 1: And I was in Cooper Rush a good example. Every
Speaker 1: guy who's in these leagues, whether it's the Major League, baseball, basketball, football,
Speaker 1: remember that guy in high school that was way better
Speaker 1: than everybody else, He's probably not good enough to be
Speaker 1: on one of these rosters. The rosters are filled with
Speaker 1: guys that are way better that So don't think a
Speaker 1: dog has no chance to win. Again. It's such a
Speaker 1: great point. I said about tennis a lot too. There
Speaker 1: there are two guys in my high school that could
Speaker 1: be anybody in d C. They were so great. And
Speaker 1: I saw him at the like that the tour stop,
Speaker 1: the pro tour stop once like years later, four years
Speaker 1: later after college, I was like, you guys going pro?
Speaker 1: They're like kill come on, like those guys are so
Speaker 1: much better than Yeah, yeah, I mean I could think
Speaker 1: of guys on my high school team, you know, you
Speaker 1: know baseball football that never made it to the majors,
Speaker 1: never made I mean, I know one guy faced maybe
Speaker 1: two games pitch for the Cups will come back. More
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Speaker 1: We get tweets that beating the book. Hey Gill, are
Speaker 1: they announcing n L M v P tonight. No Tonight
Speaker 1: at six pm Eastern three pm Pacific on MLB Network Live,
Speaker 1: they are announcing the three finalists for all of the
Speaker 1: major baseball awards m v P, CY Young Manager of
Speaker 1: the Year, Rookie of the Year, a L N N L.
Speaker 1: But only the three finalists. We have to wait another
Speaker 1: week to actually get the winners of all of those,
Speaker 1: culminating with m v P on the eleventh of November.
Speaker 1: So there's your answer to that. James underscore a g
Speaker 1: MY favorite stat after the weekend, Pete Carolyn Cino Smith
Speaker 1: three and o A T S. That's pretty tom f
Speaker 1: t for three more than any other day. I missed
Speaker 1: the old updates with Flatterman. I just want to hear
Speaker 1: a snarky bank Will was lose to Mike quite numbers
Speaker 1: game tweeters are the best. Arthur Middleman, Paris Tennis picks
Speaker 1: plays football is killing me. Uh. This is from the
Speaker 1: Charitable Gambler guessing lines in ten minutes. He tweeted this
Speaker 1: tenuts before the show. I believe Gil is seven and
Speaker 1: four on the season. With his initial NFL thoughts, Chris,
Speaker 1: he is six and oh in the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Uncle Jack would be proud, he said, Uncle
Speaker 1: jud Um, and then j Rod Always's responded to Aaron
Speaker 1: Shots the curse of three seventy carries. I believe Aaron
Speaker 1: Shots meant to say not three und seventy wins. With
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's uh, Derrick Henry's injury here, um, let's see
Speaker 1: yeah and Dan Cobald Yeah. I guess you can add
Speaker 1: the Titans to the list of franchises that abuse slash
Speaker 1: don't protect their players. Derrick Henry On pays for a
Speaker 1: staggering five hundred plus touches this year after three seven
Speaker 1: last year? What could go wrong? People always looking for
Speaker 1: a reason. Sometimes they're flukey, sometimes they're not. The better
Speaker 1: life Timmy lost and new NFL bettors must wonder what
Speaker 1: the hype is abou out when all the pros and
Speaker 1: experts are like, why do we bet on this? I
Speaker 1: was only expressing that to say, forget the handicap of
Speaker 1: the actual game itself. Then you've got to get through
Speaker 1: the coaches. Then you've got to get through the referees
Speaker 1: who reared their head in the most ugly way possible
Speaker 1: yesterday and multiple ocasions. So please understand the players running
Speaker 1: out of bounds when they're not supposed to ning out
Speaker 1: of bounds. They're not exactly Who had a sixteen second
Speaker 1: drive yesterday with the lead? Oh, I can't remember. I
Speaker 1: can't remember it either. Yeah, Parlay, you don't remember somebody
Speaker 1: had a sixteen second drive with the lead and with
Speaker 1: the burn a little clock, would you? Well? Again, the
Speaker 1: worst driving to day yesterday with the especially since we
Speaker 1: had the Broncos in the contest. Yesterday the Broncos was
Speaker 1: like an eleven second drive, eleven second, two fumbles, an
Speaker 1: incomplete pass, basically giving Washington the only chance. That's the
Speaker 1: worst thing. Ever. I think it was eleven seconds, don't
Speaker 1: I think it was? All right, Jeff, what's next? Alright,
Speaker 1: he'll coming up next? We get, oh, Minnesota at Baltimore. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's let's listen. I'd like to say that's a
Speaker 1: good game on paper. But after saying Minnesota yesterday, you
Speaker 1: remember how last week we're like, okay, five teams in
Speaker 1: the NFC are pretty much shoein's to make the postseason, right, Dallas,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Arizona, the Rams, and Green Bay. And I
Speaker 1: think that still remains the same. But it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a mad scrum for those other two, and we were like, well,
Speaker 1: Minnesota's got to be the leader in the clubhouse for
Speaker 1: those other two. Man, this was such a bad performance
Speaker 1: last night from the Vikings that it is hard to
Speaker 1: ever say that again. Kirk Cousins was twenty three or
Speaker 1: thirty five for one eighty four one touchdown. Note Pixy
Speaker 1: was sacked once. Feeling was six or seventy eight in
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But the Vikings were one of thirteen on
Speaker 1: third down last night, one of thirteen. If you were
Speaker 1: toggling back between that in the baseball game, you you
Speaker 1: could never tell which game to stay on because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're punning again. Oh they're punning again. Oh they're up
Speaker 1: four runs. Oh now they're up for it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just it was incredible. Plus two in turnovers
Speaker 1: the Vikings were last night, didn't matter, lost to the
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush led Cowboys. Sixteen. Baltimore is coming off of bye.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Baltimore minus seven and a half. I
Speaker 1: don't quite like your number better, but it's close. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing five and a half and there were some sixes
Speaker 1: out there that got taken. I'm opening six my numbers
Speaker 1: come to six and hap. By the way, we haven't
Speaker 1: mentioned qb R yet. Kirk Cousins was thirty six point six.
Speaker 1: I really thought this would be like a ten spot.
Speaker 1: I thought he was terrible. I mean, he did not
Speaker 1: give his team the opportunity. What was he one of thirteen?
Speaker 1: You said on third night? That's horrible. Um, so I
Speaker 1: like the higher number your Ravens coming off the bye
Speaker 1: I think Vikings are terrible. By the way, one of
Speaker 1: my winners last week is I picked Dallas. Of course
Speaker 1: before the Dak Prescott stuff and the parlay card. Guys,
Speaker 1: you know, the main guy I'm talking about. They were out.
Speaker 1: They could not get enough of Minnesota because I left
Speaker 1: it on the card. I had Dallas a two point
Speaker 1: favorite on my ties wind card, that's the one they
Speaker 1: liked to play. Left it on the car to figure
Speaker 1: what the hell? Anyway, figure what the hell? And you
Speaker 1: know is okay? But a little caveat here for Raven
Speaker 1: fans and betters in the future. This is their fourth
Speaker 1: straight home game, Is that right? I don't know that
Speaker 1: I've ever seen that before with a buy in between between.
Speaker 1: They weren't in London, were they at all? Yeah? That
Speaker 1: is straight home game. I don't remember ever seeing that
Speaker 1: before in my life. That's fourth straight with a buy
Speaker 1: in between. So maybe the Ravens are peeking right now
Speaker 1: for a sort sort of reason. Anyway, I like this
Speaker 1: game six, but be wary of the Ravens moving forward.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is that so far this week already I
Speaker 1: like more games than I like the last two weeks combined,
Speaker 1: which may or might not be Like the Ravens in
Speaker 1: this spot too. Vikings the most picked team again once
Speaker 1: again in circum millions three. Obviously with the with the
Speaker 1: static line you can understand why that was the case.
Speaker 1: But again Bengals, Lions, and Colts were also the second, third,
Speaker 1: and fourth most picked teams yesterday as well in circumillion three.
Speaker 1: I love Baltimore at that number. What's next? Yeah? Also,
Speaker 1: Mr Dinosaur, Mike Zimmers gotta be out of the job
Speaker 1: sooner rather than last night. They were pretty good. You
Speaker 1: must have had Minnesota, well we had him in the contest,
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't. I didn't love that. I
Speaker 1: was just one of you know what, he's a defensive guy.
Speaker 1: I think they're offensive coordinator might be worse, Like it's
Speaker 1: the it's and that's who Kubiak. That's Kobiak. So I
Speaker 1: mean you're talking about a I think you said it's
Speaker 1: a dinosaur, a a Jurassic coaching staff that's bad. Man.
Speaker 1: Look at the Jets coaching staff is horrible too, with
Speaker 1: all young guys, you know. So I think we need
Speaker 1: a blend here. The put put put la Fleur in
Speaker 1: the booth and he's apparently the best offensive mind in football. Now.
Speaker 1: So there you go there. Interesting game. Patriots said, Panthers
Speaker 1: four and four against four and four? Right, Patriots beat
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Man, let me just say this. Our power
Speaker 1: ratings are in shambles. Everybody's power ratings are just exploded.
Speaker 1: After made a big adjustment on the Patriots after yesterday,
Speaker 1: uh and the Chargers big adjustment to Uh. Patriots at
Speaker 1: the Panthers Mac Jones yesterday and the win over the
Speaker 1: Charges eighteen of thirty five or two seventeen, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no pixibi sack once Damian Harris twenty three for eight
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. The Patriots were nine of nineteen on
Speaker 1: third downs in their twenty seven and twenty four outright
Speaker 1: win as a dog three and a half point dog
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. They had a fourth and goal at
Speaker 1: the one with eight thirty nine left in the second quarter,
Speaker 1: down fourteen to seven incomplete. A lot of these teams
Speaker 1: just allergic to field goals. Next time down, they kicked
Speaker 1: the field goal. By the way Carolina, Carolina wins yesterday
Speaker 1: against the Falcons. Carolina has allowed This is an interesting stat.
Speaker 1: Caroline has allowed fewer than two hundred passing yards six
Speaker 1: times this season. WHOA, that's an amazing stating that was
Speaker 1: only a hundred thirty one yesterday. Sam Donald in Victory
Speaker 1: only had thirteen pass completions thirteen for twenty four for
Speaker 1: one twenty nine, no touchdowns, no picks. He wasn't sacked.
Speaker 1: He had eight carries for sixty six yards. Chewa Hubard
Speaker 1: two touchdown ten of seventeen on third down where the
Speaker 1: Panthers against the Falcons. They held the Falcons to two
Speaker 1: thirteen total yards and it didn't look like it was
Speaker 1: gonna start good. Jew Hubbard fumbled on the very first play,
Speaker 1: led to a three to nothing Atlanta lead. Donald hit
Speaker 1: his head on the turkey had to leave midway through
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Um just he was banged up left
Speaker 1: and right, but it was enough to beat the Falcons
Speaker 1: nineteen to thirteen. All that put in the wash. I
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are the favorite. I think they're the
Speaker 1: better football team. I think certainly there's a there's a
Speaker 1: Belichick factor here. I didn't quite make it Patriots by
Speaker 1: three on the road. I said, Patriots minus two and
Speaker 1: a half. Well, you're like, it's three, My power raise
Speaker 1: come to five. I made a big adjustment on New England.
Speaker 1: I was very impressed a couple of things. We got
Speaker 1: flooded with New England money from sharp sharp bettors. I
Speaker 1: always let that influence me. I have to take into
Speaker 1: account who is betting what, and they flooded me with
Speaker 1: New England money. They were obviously right. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think this team's come around. I'm looking again at qbrs
Speaker 1: Mac Jones fifty two point eight. I thought it would
Speaker 1: be a lot higher, and uh Sam Darrow fifty six
Speaker 1: point three, I thought that would be a lot lower.
Speaker 1: So once again the QBR a little bit deceiving. But
Speaker 1: I think New England's kind of figuring it out with
Speaker 1: this Mac Jones. And you know, they're just a kind
Speaker 1: of team. I've heard people say that, Uh, Belichick practices
Speaker 1: hard so his teams get better and better. And I
Speaker 1: know that practices are a little different with a you know,
Speaker 1: kind of the last union negotiation. But I think this
Speaker 1: team is getting better and better. I have them raised
Speaker 1: pretty high. So, like I said, my numbers come to five,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open threes. I don't see anything lower. But
Speaker 1: I will be at the top of the market here
Speaker 1: with New England. I think I'm not gonna get overly
Speaker 1: impressed with a Carolina went over a terrible Atlanta team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not either. If if New England makes the playoffs,
Speaker 1: can anyone besides Bill Belichick win Coach of the Year?
Speaker 1: Anyone is smit of got mac Jones chewing, no matter
Speaker 1: how Stefanski or McDermott or Zach Taylor would still be alive.
Speaker 1: Well maybe not after Yes, I'm just thinking it's it's
Speaker 1: It's just like Brady's is the m v P to lose.
Speaker 1: I just think Belichick's is coach of the Year to
Speaker 1: lose quick quickly. I will say this, if the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers make the playoffs, might com one deserves a crack
Speaker 1: at that award? To a Yeah, we'll get to that.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna go to college, but any chance he
Speaker 1: was curious. Sorry, he's a little one wavering on that.
Speaker 1: We're going back. We're guessing lines Week nine numbers gave
Speaker 1: Visent the Sports Betting Network Skill Alexander Christie Andrews. This
Speaker 1: is uh guesting lines numbers game Visa the Sports Betting Network.
Speaker 1: Paul Carr, our soccer guy who also used to work
Speaker 1: at ESPN Stats and Information and now works a True
Speaker 1: Media Networks, hosts the Expected Value podcast. Chimes in on
Speaker 1: your question about four straight home games, says last year,
Speaker 1: the Steelers played four straight home games, though that was
Speaker 1: because a road game against Tennessee got postponed for COVID reasons.
Speaker 1: Before that, the last time a team played four straight
Speaker 1: home games in a season was twenty sixteen. Both the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and the Packers that year played four straight. I thought,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I would never have thought that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Paul car Yeah, that one just came to
Speaker 1: me while I was doing Baltimore, and Uh, I just
Speaker 1: don't remember saying it. I missed the other couple. That's
Speaker 1: the other beauty of the show that people who are
Speaker 1: actually regulars all listened and can make corrections when quickly
Speaker 1: and by the way, the other thing we said, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I was talking about where he learned his
Speaker 1: offensive theory firm. Anyway, point being that that copies have
Speaker 1: is doing a horrific job. Um and getting back to
Speaker 1: Dallas for a second, because we were just talking off
Speaker 1: air about how, you know, I've said for many years
Speaker 1: on this show, you can only win a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with a quarterback over forming on a rookie deal or
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. The last time Nick Foles doesn't
Speaker 1: count because Carson Wentz was the guy that year. Really,
Speaker 1: the last time a quarterback on a Super Bowl that
Speaker 1: didn't qualify in those two categories, you have to go
Speaker 1: back to Brad Johnson in two thousand, to Trent Dial
Speaker 1: for two thousand at the Great Defense in Baltimore. You
Speaker 1: just get. And so the joke of the economic structure
Speaker 1: in the NFL is that you are forced to make
Speaker 1: decisions on guys who are past the rookie deals but
Speaker 1: are clearly not solidified as Hall of famers like Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins. You're forced to make a decision to
Speaker 1: give him a hundred million plus dollars. And we were
Speaker 1: just talking about how Dak Prescott, the Cowboys end up
Speaker 1: making the It's I don't know if the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: smart or if they just get so butt lucky all
Speaker 1: the time. But do we have to give Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: credit for some of this stuff? Because that roster's packed
Speaker 1: anything you can I'm just curious. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: make you do anything you didn't want to do, you
Speaker 1: must get I certainly don't want to give him credit.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, all right, what's next? Buffalo and Ville?
Speaker 1: Buffalo Jacksonville. Oh, that's gonna be the largest spread of
Speaker 1: the weekend. Buffalo beats Miami. Wheread he talked about that,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, There's really not much to talk about that game.
Speaker 1: Josh Allene. Two touchdowns, no picks, act zero times it
Speaker 1: carries fifty five yards in a touchdown. He always fills
Speaker 1: up stat sheet. Beasley ten for one ten. Buffalo was
Speaker 1: plus two in turnovers, as we mentioned, nine penalties for
Speaker 1: eight yards. No problem. They still beat the Dolphins. And
Speaker 1: then there's Jacksonville. Can I just say that I liked
Speaker 1: Jacksonville yesterday and I even grabbed him in game at
Speaker 1: plus ten. Never had a chance. The Jaguars record in
Speaker 1: North America is oh and six. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: Go to London, they win, stay here in North America
Speaker 1: and six. It's a sixth straight game that Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: has had one touchdown pass or fewer. They're the only
Speaker 1: team in the NFL yet to score twenty four plus
Speaker 1: points in a game this season. And let me just say,
Speaker 1: with the score twenty four to nothing. Now, remember eight
Speaker 1: times three equals twenty four. Last night checked, I think
Speaker 1: I learned that in third grade Urban Meyer missed that class.
Speaker 1: Uh he kicked the extra point when they scored to
Speaker 1: make it twenty four to six. He's like, no, twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven is good then, Just just to let
Speaker 1: you know how ridiculous it is, he decided after that
Speaker 1: to kick an onside kick, because if you're gonna kick
Speaker 1: the onside kick after that, definitely kick the extra point
Speaker 1: before that and don't go for two. By the way,
Speaker 1: Seattle returned it to the house. That was the end
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, I know the game is over right, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to act like they were gonna win
Speaker 1: the football game, but act like you care, act like
Speaker 1: your heads in the game. You're a pro. Played to
Speaker 1: the gun. I'm sorry, it's your job. God bless or
Speaker 1: to the coach, to the gun. Lawrence thirty two fifty
Speaker 1: three for two thirty eight, one touchdown, one picks that
Speaker 1: once Arnold was his big target. I guess eight for
Speaker 1: sixty eight. Carlos Hide nine carries for thirty two, six
Speaker 1: catches for forty but twelve penalties for the Jaguars for
Speaker 1: nine three yards. They lost to a team in Seattle
Speaker 1: that only had two twenty nine total yards of offense.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is terrible. Buffalo by thirteen on the road. How
Speaker 1: about that? You're light? Uh, you're light. He doesn't disdain,
Speaker 1: complete disdain. Uh, it's fourteen. Some guys opened this game
Speaker 1: last night like ten and a half. I mean what
Speaker 1: they were thinking. I have no idea. We talked about
Speaker 1: diminishing returns. There's returns are gonna have to really diminished
Speaker 1: to cover this game. I can tell you that my
Speaker 1: numbers come to eighteen and a half. I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: fourteen and after there's no fourteen and a half out there.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get ahead of the game here. I guarantee,
Speaker 1: come kick off, I'm gonna be rooting for Jacksonville. Come
Speaker 1: in and get your fourteen and a half off me
Speaker 1: as soon as I post them in nine oh five.
Speaker 1: And by the way, backtrack one game too, I'm opening
Speaker 1: New England and a half. I'm just gonna get ahead
Speaker 1: of that game to look at him again. I'll be
Speaker 1: the only three and a half in the world. Come
Speaker 1: on in and play it. Yeah, for those who are
Speaker 1: wondering again, if not listening to guessing lines before, I'm
Speaker 1: in a cocoon for yesterday. I don't know the numbers
Speaker 1: I come up with. I think with the lines will be.
Speaker 1: Christie tells me what he's going to post right after
Speaker 1: the show. These lines are not available to the South
Speaker 1: Point till the show ends in a little over an
Speaker 1: hour from now. And within that exercise, we tried to
Speaker 1: extract some value from a betting standpoint for the upcoming
Speaker 1: week's games. Usually, and this has been tried and true
Speaker 1: over the years, our first instincts on this show are
Speaker 1: better than any other instincts we have the rest of
Speaker 1: the week. Yeah, it's really true. Here's like three half
Speaker 1: points I'm giving you. You want to go play numbers
Speaker 1: that aren't there anyway? You can take six on the vikings.
Speaker 1: You think three and a half on the Panthers, you
Speaker 1: think four and a half on the Bills. No, nobody
Speaker 1: else has those come on on the early window here,
Speaker 1: I believe probably yeah we are. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 1: girl the windows, small late windows. This hate that. It's
Speaker 1: one of those uh wonderful scheduling. How many late games?
Speaker 1: Only three three late games while we're still in the
Speaker 1: we're still we're going to Ohio Battle of Ohio. Cleveland's
Speaker 1: Cleveland at since al right, here's where the Steelers come involved.
Speaker 1: Because Cleveland losing to the Steelers yesterday fifteen to ten.
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns are alone in the last place in
Speaker 1: the a f C North at four and four. They
Speaker 1: had three straight games where they scored seventeen points or fewer.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield twenty of thirty one for two twenty five,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked four times, but
Speaker 1: boy when he got a first down running, boy was
Speaker 1: he excited. At one point, Sit down, Baker. The Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns only had three hundred six total yards. They only
Speaker 1: had nineties six rushing, which is really where their bread
Speaker 1: is buttered. They had a fourth and one of the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh thirty nine to start the second quarter up three
Speaker 1: to nothing, they went for it and failed. That's probably
Speaker 1: the right play at thirty nine eight most penalty yards
Speaker 1: entering week eight. They tamped that down a bit. But
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Like Kevin Stefanski, who people love to love,
Speaker 1: they were down fifteen to ten, he had all of
Speaker 1: his time outs left. It was fourth and twelve with
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh twenty six. Late in this game, they went
Speaker 1: forward sta of kicking a field goal, in complete pass,
Speaker 1: you had all your time outs left, kick a field goal,
Speaker 1: you get the ball back. All you have to do
Speaker 1: is kick a field goal to win. Nope, they went
Speaker 1: for it. People allergic to field goals, they loved one
Speaker 1: for it on fourth Downd. That's why diminishing returns. We
Speaker 1: may have to amend that a little bit. They may
Speaker 1: not be so diminishing. They're playing Cincinnati. We talked about
Speaker 1: Cincinnati being the survivor killer yesterday, and we talked about
Speaker 1: the end of that game and what happened. But that's
Speaker 1: three losses this season. All three losses for the Bengals
Speaker 1: this season by a combined nine points. Joe Burrow thirty
Speaker 1: four for two fifty nine three touchdowns, one picks at
Speaker 1: three times, mixing fourteen for thirty three and a touchdown
Speaker 1: on the ground, four catches for fifty eight and a
Speaker 1: touchdown receiving Higgins four seven Boyd five or sixty nine
Speaker 1: in a touchdown Chase three forty two and a touchdown. Again.
Speaker 1: They had a fourth and goal of the Jets three
Speaker 1: we mentioned early in that game. With two o nine
Speaker 1: left in the first quarter, down seven and nothing, they
Speaker 1: went forward. Burrow got sacked, but Mike Wait through a pick,
Speaker 1: so they got it right back and scored. But again
Speaker 1: they were plus two inter and overs. They were plus
Speaker 1: three in the first half and only led by three
Speaker 1: at half time. They were plus two in turnovers for
Speaker 1: the game where the Bengals, and again the power ratings
Speaker 1: are in shambles. Cleveland Cincinnati. I said, Cincinnati minus three.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what else to say. Um My power
Speaker 1: rains come to two and a half. It's mostly two
Speaker 1: and a half with some juice on the favorite three,
Speaker 1: with some juice on the dog. My power rains come
Speaker 1: to two and a half. I'm gonna open two and
Speaker 1: a half. Um, I'm gonna take issue with you on
Speaker 1: one thing. When Baker Mayfield got up and you know
Speaker 1: xuber and after I think that was a message because
Speaker 1: he he got hit on his left shoulder, which we
Speaker 1: know was damage. You know, so he got up. I
Speaker 1: think the show the fans and his teammates says, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm still in it all the way. So I don't
Speaker 1: down maker Baker because he landed on his throwing should
Speaker 1: he But he got hit on his left shoulder, which
Speaker 1: was bad. So and by the way, we're talking about
Speaker 1: guys who are gonna sign multimillion dollar contracts that probably
Speaker 1: don't deserve it. Hello Baker. But I don't root against him.
Speaker 1: I really don't because I want the league to do well.
Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, like I said two and a half,
Speaker 1: Before we go any further, I want to tell you
Speaker 1: so Ryan Ground, he's in my office. He's the general
Speaker 1: manager here. When we put in the uh we put
Speaker 1: in the Bengal score, and yet this is Ryan come here.
Speaker 1: He comes out. He takes a look at their results
Speaker 1: from that one game. His eyes got like this big.
Speaker 1: It was a good result for us. Second time, you
Speaker 1: remember all times. Second time, I don't want to tell
Speaker 1: the other shore. We'll save that for some other times.
Speaker 1: The second time that I saw Ryan's eyes get like
Speaker 1: yeah in a good way. That was a carnage inducing survivors.
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Speaker 1: many years have we been doing this? Only seems like forever.
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Speaker 1: is a tweet from Tommy Collins at Tommy Collins on
Speaker 1: a five hour flight listening to the best show on Visa.
Speaker 1: Does Chris take into account for any potential weather in
Speaker 1: his first numbers? Thank you for a great listen, Um,
Speaker 1: And I answered him already. No. I assume clear, clear,
Speaker 1: and fast is what I assume at this point, and
Speaker 1: by Tuesday I started looking at weather. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: a solid question, Thank you, Tommy. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: This from Joe Peter Joe Peter, who's gonna be on
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Speaker 1: You guys are so enjoyable in the morning. I should
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Speaker 1: All right? Next guessing lines still in the one o'clock
Speaker 1: eastern again, big one o'clock eastern window. This week a
Speaker 1: Vegas at the Giants. Vegas at the Giants. Okay, they
Speaker 1: won't be much to stay here because Vegas is on
Speaker 1: a bye. We're on a bye this week and the
Speaker 1: Giants have you have to play Giants play tonight. So
Speaker 1: I'm among the people who have the chiefs and survivor.
Speaker 1: And so when a team like the Bengals loses and
Speaker 1: survivor on a Sunday but you have the Monday pick,
Speaker 1: you can't really get all that excited because you're like well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that happened. But and I said this last
Speaker 1: week number of times, I'm on a double digit. All
Speaker 1: of us who have the Chiefs Tonight and Survivor are
Speaker 1: on a double digit or thereabouts home favorite in a
Speaker 1: standalone game, and we're terrified, just terrified. Oh please, Chiefs, chiefs, please,
Speaker 1: could you win this game? We appreciate it. Survivor is
Speaker 1: about the heat up. Um, there's nothing else to really say.
Speaker 1: We'll see what the Giants student night. They should have
Speaker 1: some players back tonight, though, namely Darius Tony on offense,
Speaker 1: a couple other offensive players Barkley and they're both out. Oh,
Speaker 1: Barkley and Galladay are out. Okay, uh, Raiders by four
Speaker 1: on the road. Once again, I like your number better.
Speaker 1: It's three pretty much solid. Really, Um, I'm gonna open three.
Speaker 1: I really like three. That better. But I'm worried about tonight.
Speaker 1: I too, am worried about not so much the Giants
Speaker 1: looking good, but the Chiefs looking terrible. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: have some reasons that I would want the Chiefs to
Speaker 1: at least be okay, leave it at that, Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: so I'll open to you, but I think that's light.
Speaker 1: I really do I think that this number should be high.
Speaker 1: It's Chrissie's wave saying he might know what I'm talking about. Um,
Speaker 1: you know what the thing about the Raiders is, we
Speaker 1: were we do our power rankings, but not only Jeff
Speaker 1: and I, but Matt Brown, Kelly, Bill and I probably
Speaker 1: time action and the one thing that we all kind
Speaker 1: of agreed on, at least Matt Kelly and I was like,
Speaker 1: I do think we we possibly are disrespectful of the
Speaker 1: Raiders because they were not in our top ten, none
Speaker 1: of us. Well, like I said, I try to keep numbers,
Speaker 1: you know, if I have a grading system, Not that
Speaker 1: I'm married to it or anything like that, but I
Speaker 1: definitely let it influence my power ratings. And Raiders are
Speaker 1: probably higher than what your perception would be. So that's
Speaker 1: one reason I have them higher. By the way, I
Speaker 1: had a note here the Jets going on the road.
Speaker 1: On the Jets, if you look back, I've been much
Speaker 1: better at home. Just the note that I had, so
Speaker 1: I I know you were like the Jets this week.
Speaker 1: I do not. I mean I don't love them. Don't
Speaker 1: I have a mark next to the Colts. I like them,
Speaker 1: I love I'd be careful, what's the next, Jeff, Come
Speaker 1: on now, you gotta like the future Hall of Famer there, Gil,
Speaker 1: let's go. I love a quarterback controversy between Mike White
Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson White, Micael White or Michael Micah White.
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing, all right. Next shouts Atlanta at
Speaker 1: New Orleans. We're still in the morning. This is the
Speaker 1: final one o'clock Eastern game. Boy, that's gonna suck in
Speaker 1: the afternoon. Next week, Atlanta at New Orleans. The three
Speaker 1: and four Falcons the five and two Saints. So the
Speaker 1: Saints become the team in the driver's seat for those
Speaker 1: last two playoff spots in the NFC. They're only a
Speaker 1: half game behind the Bucks in the a f C
Speaker 1: and the NFC South. Now Atlanta we mentioned loses to Carolina.
Speaker 1: Atlanta now alone in last place in the NFC South.
Speaker 1: It's a losing record for the Falcons through seven games
Speaker 1: for the fourth straight season, so it doesn't matter who's
Speaker 1: been coaching through seven games four years in a row.
Speaker 1: Losing record through seven games, Ryan Mattie Ice seven for
Speaker 1: one six, one touchdown, two picks at three times only
Speaker 1: two total yards of the Falcons there were only three
Speaker 1: of ten on third down, and they got the word
Speaker 1: before the game that Calvin Ridley, who missed a game
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago for personal matters, but he announced,
Speaker 1: yeah today that he is stepping away from football to
Speaker 1: focus on his mental well being. So there's a big
Speaker 1: fantasy player for something, obviously a big cog in the
Speaker 1: Falcons wheel. After you know, Julio Jones is no longer
Speaker 1: with the team. You figured Calvin Ridley would take up
Speaker 1: some of those, uh, some of that play and now
Speaker 1: he's he's stepping away, and so one would think Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts would be the beneficiary of that, but you know,
Speaker 1: he dropped a big pass yesterday. Also, it's just it's
Speaker 1: a team that's in turmoil there at the Saints. Saints yesterday,
Speaker 1: I mean this year. Before we go any further, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, well that's the thing we don't know. Jamis
Speaker 1: yesterday six of ten for fifty six and then if
Speaker 1: you have one touchdown. Note Pis he was sacked zero times,
Speaker 1: four carries for forty yards. He was tackled. It was
Speaker 1: it was flagged the horse collar. It wasn't really a
Speaker 1: horse collar, but it sort of had the effect of
Speaker 1: a horse collar, whereas Jersey was grabbed and his knee
Speaker 1: was wrenched and that was the end of James yesterday.
Speaker 1: We don't know what his status is. Trevor Simeon he
Speaker 1: of Broncos fame from some years ago, and I used
Speaker 1: fame lightly. Trevor Simeon ended up coming in the game.
Speaker 1: He was sixteen of twenty nine for one fifty nine
Speaker 1: one touchdown note picks. He was only sacked once and
Speaker 1: he got the job done, or at least that New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints defense got the job done in a big way.
Speaker 1: But Trevor Simeon did nothing, nothing at all poorly in
Speaker 1: this game. Nothing to lose it for him, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: The Saints end up plus three in turnovers against the Bucks.
Speaker 1: They really are Tom Brady's kryptonite. There was a fourth
Speaker 1: and one of the New Orleans forty four with eleven
Speaker 1: oh one left in the first quarter. The Saints went
Speaker 1: for it. Camara got stuffed and you figured, okay, well
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the Bucks day. Nope. Down twenty
Speaker 1: seven to twenty six two minutes left in the game,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay had two time outs left. The Saints curiously
Speaker 1: called passes incomplete, incomplete, first and second downs. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: calmly used one of their time outs after third down,
Speaker 1: after the third down play was short of their sticks.
Speaker 1: That was the sixteen second That was the six and
Speaker 1: a second drive, sixteen seconds off the clock, up a point, incomplete, incomplete,
Speaker 1: and then Tampa Bay used the time And I was
Speaker 1: just about to say great things about Peyton go ahead,
Speaker 1: that's right. What was Sean Payton thinking? I saw this
Speaker 1: that I hate stats like this, but I just thought
Speaker 1: i'd have to say it. Teams that apparently have one
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football this year or seven and oh
Speaker 1: the following game this season, some little quirky, meaningless dad,
Speaker 1: But of course I had to say it. Apparently anyway,
Speaker 1: New Orleans wins it. That's a huge win for New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Just a gut gutty win for the Saints beating the Bucks.
Speaker 1: We'll get to Tom Brady's you know, stats against the
Speaker 1: Saints and against everybody else. I would say the Saints
Speaker 1: will be six point favorites at home against their division rivals.
Speaker 1: What are you assuming about Winston? I'm assuming. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: no Winston. I'm assuming the same thing. Yeah, I've heard
Speaker 1: even some guys saying today he might be out for
Speaker 1: the year. The issue becomes Taysom Hill got concussed on
Speaker 1: October h against Washington, he still was not cleared to play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but I mean I know those
Speaker 1: don't lingering off a long time. So are we looking
Speaker 1: at Trevor Simmons or that's what I'm looking at. I
Speaker 1: said six because that is really good. Okay, considering that
Speaker 1: I'm that, I'm thinking at Simeon. I made the number seven.
Speaker 1: I think Atlanta is just god awful, just terrible. They
Speaker 1: got bet against yesterday by wise guys. I agreed with
Speaker 1: the move. Um, if you remember last week going into
Speaker 1: that game, I made it pick him. Uh. So I
Speaker 1: agreed with a move on Carolina. I think Atlanta is
Speaker 1: just horrible. Uh even though the sixteen second drive notwithstanding,
Speaker 1: I still say great things about Peyton. You know, I've
Speaker 1: said it before in the show. Not many people agree
Speaker 1: with me, but I think Drew Brees a little overrated
Speaker 1: during his career. I think Peyton made him that much better.
Speaker 1: And here you go, Trevor Simmon. You know what is
Speaker 1: his qbr Yes? Really good. Yeah for a guy he
Speaker 1: looked very comfortable. He looked like a pro. All these guys, Cooper, Rush, Trap, Simeon,
Speaker 1: Mike White, he looked really good. All that being said,
Speaker 1: it's five and a half pretty much everywhere. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open six. There's another half point. If you want to
Speaker 1: gobble that up, be my guest, you'll have the Falcons
Speaker 1: going for you all week. You know, good for you.
Speaker 1: I think I like the Saints. Yeah, I like the Saints.
Speaker 1: To Jeff, you have a couple of things on this
Speaker 1: on this yeah, two two quick things. UH p f
Speaker 1: T Pro Football Talk reporting that the expectation is Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill is going to clear protocol and be available on
Speaker 1: Sunday for New Orleans. UH. Jane Slater Ian Rappaport, both
Speaker 1: of NFL Network. Jamis Winston apparent. A c L injury
Speaker 1: is what we're going with. UH, potential damage to mc L.
Speaker 1: Sean Payton right there and in the postgame press conference
Speaker 1: used the word significant injury. That's never a good sign.
Speaker 1: So you're looking at UH, you're probably looking at a
Speaker 1: a long time without Jamis here for New Orleans. A
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill Trevor Simeon situation. Now well after the way
Speaker 1: Simeon played. I think I go with with Simon, and
Speaker 1: I really think I would. Well, you know, Sean Payton
Speaker 1: can't get himself enough. Taysom Hill though, Cordell store kind
Speaker 1: of you know the way they used Cordell who was
Speaker 1: like an okay quarterback but were great in that slash
Speaker 1: role that they used him. Yes, you know, but I
Speaker 1: would go with Simeon. And I like the Saints. Some
Speaker 1: just look at me. We have more games to get to,
Speaker 1: but so far like I like the Ravens. I like
Speaker 1: the Saints. Dare I say I like the Jets. Al
Speaker 1: You're caught. I got a mark next to the Colts.
Speaker 1: I like the Colts. You are sending me the yellow
Speaker 1: caution blinking light. You're a big boy. You're gonna do
Speaker 1: what you want. I am a large boy. STE want
Speaker 1: to do what I want here. Um okay? Uh So
Speaker 1: we have three more afternoon games to get to. What
Speaker 1: is it three afternoon games left? And of course two
Speaker 1: prime time and two prime time okay, and then we
Speaker 1: gotta review what we have teaser legs we have to discuss.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about Survivor because I
Speaker 1: haven't gotten through Tonight's game yet, but I suppose we
Speaker 1: will as well because next week, Oh my goodness, do
Speaker 1: you have a lot of games to choose from. Oh again,
Speaker 1: forty plus percent of Survivor Circus Survivor knocked out with
Speaker 1: the Bengals lost yesterday. We'll come back. We'll do it all,
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Speaker 1: point there now as well. I think there's an error
Speaker 1: you were asking you sent off air that you're watching
Speaker 1: Curb last night, Curb your enthusiast, and then you were saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you wanted Susie Esmen to do this thing for you?
Speaker 1: You know, have I told you this story? But not
Speaker 1: back in my uh in my Johnny and Nitis San
Speaker 1: Diego Charger Year of Music Radio, My Joe Namith Rams year.
Speaker 1: You know the year where you know you're out, but
Speaker 1: you're not quite out. Uh. She came on the morning
Speaker 1: show that I did, Oh I didn't, and off air
Speaker 1: I had her for I was like, for thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: could you just curse it me like you would, and
Speaker 1: then I'll beat out the parts and run it back
Speaker 1: on air. So she did for thirty seconds. She just
Speaker 1: went off. I would. I'd give a thousand dollars that
Speaker 1: probably isn't watching her to her favorite charity to put
Speaker 1: a message on my phone. But she has to use
Speaker 1: the word or the phrase what she calls Jeff fat yeah,
Speaker 1: somewhere mixed, and I'm sure she'd figure out how to
Speaker 1: do that. She did. She was like, Gil you far Rid,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love Susie. On that show, she invited
Speaker 1: us to the comedy show later that night that she
Speaker 1: did in San Francisco. Had Jeff Garland, I was honest.
Speaker 1: I've heard she's nothing like. Oh no, nothing at all,
Speaker 1: nothing at all. Um. Okay, now we're to the afternoon games.
Speaker 1: What do we got? Only three afternoon games? This sucks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very lame of the league after doing a really nice
Speaker 1: job of distributing the wealth in these games. The first
Speaker 1: eight weeks of the season, Chargers at Eagles is four
Speaker 1: oh five Eastern. Talking about our power ratings going up
Speaker 1: in shambles. Charges are down to four and three. Now
Speaker 1: they're at the three and five Eagles. Justin Herbert yesterday
Speaker 1: eighteen of thirty five or two three, two touchdowns, two picks,
Speaker 1: act three times. What's going on with the Chargers? All
Speaker 1: of a sudden Eckler always fills up a s a
Speaker 1: statue eleven for sixty four on the ground with the touchdown,
Speaker 1: six catches for sixty keenan Allen six or seventy seven
Speaker 1: at a touchdown. They went for it on fourth and
Speaker 1: one to New England seven in a scoreless game. Less
Speaker 1: than four minutes in they converted it went up seven
Speaker 1: to nothing. The Brandon Staley go for it part of
Speaker 1: the game though he has gotten a little more nitty
Speaker 1: with the fourth downs lately. Poker turn Philadelphia. All right,
Speaker 1: so this is another one, Jeff? Is this the Is
Speaker 1: this the moment where you do the Dan Campbell mia
Speaker 1: culpa from last week? Is this when? Is this s
Speaker 1: where you do it? I think all of us probably
Speaker 1: at Philadelphia destroys Detroit forty four to six. Who was that?
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts completed nine forward passes. He was nine of
Speaker 1: fourteen for a hundred three yards, no touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: He wasn't sacked. Seven carries for seventy one yards, though
Speaker 1: Boston's got twelve for sixty for two touchdowns. Howard Jordan
Speaker 1: twelve or fifty seven and two touchdowns Goddard six or
Speaker 1: seventy two catching. They held Detroit to fifteen first downs
Speaker 1: in two eight total yards. Just destroyed him. They didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't do anything. Forty four to six. But the
Speaker 1: Charges will be favored despite them being on the road.
Speaker 1: I'll say the Chargers by four. Wow, you're a little high.
Speaker 1: My power rains come to three. It's pretty much two
Speaker 1: and a half everywhere I see one three with juice
Speaker 1: on the dog, I'm gonna open the Chargers. I mean
Speaker 1: you look at the Eagles. Uh first n hurts again.
Speaker 1: QBR I like to use. It can be pretty decen
Speaker 1: eighty six point three, I understand. And by the way, um,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert had the second lowest qb are the day
Speaker 1: sixteen point oh. The only one that beat him out
Speaker 1: on the low end was Trevor Lawrence eleven point eight.
Speaker 1: It's not good for Justin Herbert, envy pet no, no,
Speaker 1: that he's gonna need to make a comeback. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open two and a half. Just I don't that I
Speaker 1: lowered the Chargers enough on my power rais. I did
Speaker 1: not raise the Eagles, narry a bit off of that wind.
Speaker 1: I was not thoroughly impression. Charges have to be lowered
Speaker 1: in the power raings. But two and a half at
Speaker 1: the Eagles, I love the change. I made it three.
Speaker 1: My bar rains come to three. So I'm not gonna yours.
Speaker 1: You're posting three, No, I'm posting two and a half.
Speaker 1: And you know I don't want to. I don't want
Speaker 1: to play that game yet, because you know the two
Speaker 1: and a three they love, because everything's an eleven and
Speaker 1: ten here, you know. So I'm gonna stick with two
Speaker 1: and a ha for now. If I see a trending up,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go up quickly. Sorry I step on you
Speaker 1: saying you didn't want to dicker. My apologies. Another bingo
Speaker 1: where we at. How great was that catch in the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game. Unbelievable touch catch? I really like that kid
Speaker 1: Ben State kids to um okay, I like the charges,
Speaker 1: I like I like way too many of these games
Speaker 1: that terrifies me. What's next? Didn't count me on the
Speaker 1: Chargers bandwagon for that one to Philly. Philly is still
Speaker 1: not any good. I don't care. Did you beat Detroit
Speaker 1: by a thousand? Uh? This is a good one. Green
Speaker 1: Bay at Kansas City, Green Bay extra rest, Kansas City
Speaker 1: short rest, green Bay having played on Thursday, having beaten
Speaker 1: the beforehand undefeated Cardinals no longer Kansas City still yet
Speaker 1: to play the Giants tonight. Aaron Rodgers and that win
Speaker 1: over the Cardinals twenty two of thirty seven for one
Speaker 1: four two touchdowns, no pick sack once A j Dillon
Speaker 1: seventy eight, Aaron Jones fifteen fifty nine and a touchdown
Speaker 1: on the ground seven catches for fifty one yards. Remember,
Speaker 1: Green Bay was plus three in turnovers on Thursday night
Speaker 1: toppling the Cardinals from the perch of the unbeaten Green
Speaker 1: Bay is seven and one lost their opener, yes to
Speaker 1: New Orleans right with thirty eight three or thirty five
Speaker 1: three something, And then I remember I had him in
Speaker 1: Survivor of the second week, and it like, wasn't that
Speaker 1: comfortable of a win over Detroit? If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I can't remember they had a time of possession advantage,
Speaker 1: by the way, Thursday night of thirty seven thirty five
Speaker 1: to twenty five. As well in Kansas City, again we
Speaker 1: haven't seen them play. They played a night their favored
Speaker 1: by what's the what's the current number on the Chiefs
Speaker 1: over the ten or ten and a half? And yet
Speaker 1: even in eleven and reary. So here we go, here
Speaker 1: comes the Chiefs money. Um, this has I put Kansas
Speaker 1: City minus three because we haven't seen the Chiefs yet,
Speaker 1: and I still think for a team that has a
Speaker 1: losing record, we hold a special place for the Chiefs
Speaker 1: where the market will not allow them not to be
Speaker 1: favored by the standard field or what used to be
Speaker 1: the standard number. I see it two and a half
Speaker 1: Kansas City two and a half or three with juice
Speaker 1: on the dog, I'm definitely open two and a half
Speaker 1: my numbers come to pick another money Corn will come
Speaker 1: in and beout. The Chiefs be my guest. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I retweet a lot of Jeff Vogel stuff, especially his analyses.
Speaker 1: You know, one one tweets worth. He puts in a
Speaker 1: lot of statistics and uh. He talks a lot about
Speaker 1: the home field advantage. It is pretty much not there
Speaker 1: and I can't give And I'm even giving Kansas City
Speaker 1: to a grudging two points for home field. I don't
Speaker 1: even know why I'm doing it. I still come the
Speaker 1: own me a pick them in this game, you know,
Speaker 1: And I, like I said, I try to be as
Speaker 1: objective as possible making these numbers in my grading system
Speaker 1: that I use as a guide. Um that I think
Speaker 1: this game should be a pick. I'm I'm not sure
Speaker 1: why Kansas City should be a favorite, whether it's home
Speaker 1: or not. I just don't see it. I think pick
Speaker 1: them's fine. I think went to three and there are
Speaker 1: some threes out there. You could definitely mark me down
Speaker 1: on Green Bay. Kansas City with a bit of antagonistic
Speaker 1: relationship with their fans right now, as well, some of
Speaker 1: the players speaking out about how spoiled the fans have been.
Speaker 1: Really want a Super Bowl, got to a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Now you guys are complaining about us. That's me paraphrasing.
Speaker 1: That always works well for the players when they go
Speaker 1: after their fans, especially when you go to do endorsements.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I'll say it again, Kansas
Speaker 1: City is a terrifying proposition. Tonight, just win this game
Speaker 1: for those of us who have the chiefs uh tonight
Speaker 1: in sir vivor um teaser legs? Thus far, should we
Speaker 1: wait to teaser legs at the end? Maybe we should
Speaker 1: wait to teaser legs at the end because right and
Speaker 1: as I'm thinking about it, I guess Baltimore essentially to
Speaker 1: beat Minnesota would be a teaser leg is great value
Speaker 1: though you know, no, not great value because you're not
Speaker 1: going through. But let's talk about the Wong teaser legs. Jeff.
Speaker 1: By the way, Jeff Focal has a good thing about that.
Speaker 1: These quotes actually captain Jack Andrews. How about the Ralph
Speaker 1: Michaels thing that he tweeted out. I thought that was
Speaker 1: good though some people disputed that, but I think that
Speaker 1: was pretty good, and we had a five showed up.
Speaker 1: Yes it was a dog by five, but still by five.
Speaker 1: So long teaser legs that we've gone over so far
Speaker 1: would be Carolina. Would you want to take eight and
Speaker 1: a half on Carolina versus New England? Did that end
Speaker 1: up being two and a half by the way? Uh?
Speaker 1: Not on my boards on the three and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: never mind that I'm looking at my guesses. Um so
Speaker 1: I don't know that we have we don't know two
Speaker 1: and a half. Get the Browns up to eight and
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, the Bengals Cowboys will be outside of
Speaker 1: teaser range. Eagles you could take eight and a half.
Speaker 1: Would you say Bengals? You mean the Browns would be
Speaker 1: an The Browns would be a teaser leg and uh
Speaker 1: and indianaplsis too high, so that's not one. So really
Speaker 1: only the Browns is that the only? Like traditional unless
Speaker 1: you're telling me that the Eagles you could catch eight
Speaker 1: and a half on the Eagles. So Eagles and Browns
Speaker 1: and maybe the and maybe the Packers the Eagles Browns
Speaker 1: do that on my board? For Oh, the Packers would
Speaker 1: be a obvious teaser like, wouldn't it? I would say so,
Speaker 1: except the high total fifty five and a half. Still still,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's but that's a good point.
Speaker 1: The Eagles. I would not rush to bet at all
Speaker 1: because I think the Chargers could blow them out, and
Speaker 1: then the Browns. I would the Browns. The thing about
Speaker 1: the Browns every week, so you have to check the
Speaker 1: injury report because you have no idea who's playing. Injuries
Speaker 1: have totally eviscerated that season for them. They have. And
Speaker 1: I asked Lombardi last week, you know, the trade deadline
Speaker 1: is tomorrow. We haven't even talked about that because got
Speaker 1: to talk about the Deshaun Watson news that came down
Speaker 1: over the weekend. But I asked Lombardy, would they with
Speaker 1: the Browns trade O'Dell Beckham Jr. And he was like,
Speaker 1: who's going to take the contract? He's right, you know,
Speaker 1: I know I've mentioned her on the show, and I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure he's listening right now. I know a guy
Speaker 1: that knows a guy, and those people in the Giants organization,
Speaker 1: they were very happy to get rid of them, coming back,
Speaker 1: guessing lines, numbers, getting visa Gil Alexander, Christie Andrews and
Speaker 1: Jeff Parlay is here as well in case you missed
Speaker 1: the big injury news this morning, both Adam Schefter and
Speaker 1: then later Jake Glazer sort of specifying what's going on,
Speaker 1: report that Derrick Henry could be done for the year. Wait,
Speaker 1: here's another one right there, coming up, Jameis Winston out
Speaker 1: reportedly out for the season. Okay, so there you go.
Speaker 1: So we could have Derrick Henry done for the year
Speaker 1: because of a broken metatarsal bone in his foot. You
Speaker 1: may have seen him limping on the sidelines yesterday. I
Speaker 1: went back in the game, didn't get a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of run to that. But uh, that obviously would be
Speaker 1: just a massive loss for all football fans, certainly for
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. No player means more to his team
Speaker 1: non quarterback, and maybe even quarterback quite frankly, although not
Speaker 1: to align than Derrick Henry because he is He's a
Speaker 1: special quirk to that offense. Um. And now we have
Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter. Some Daniel Hunter news for Minnesota, not obviously
Speaker 1: as big, but still yeah, I'll have news on the
Speaker 1: Titans situation in the second as well. Daniel Hunter feared
Speaker 1: to have suffered a torn pectoral muscle out. Indeed, uh
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and Mike garre Follo of NFL Network on
Speaker 1: that report, having an m R I this morning to
Speaker 1: confirm that diagnosis. Uh, he would be out for the
Speaker 1: season if it is a torn peck and that look again,
Speaker 1: the free agent market, the trade market not great for
Speaker 1: running backs but also for me I in rappaport, the
Speaker 1: Titans expected to work out Adrian Peterson too, uh, in
Speaker 1: the wake of Derrick Henry's injury, which, hey, look, Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson one of the greatest running backs of all time,
Speaker 1: but uh, completely done. As listen, I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't wanna, I don't wanna say anything negative about
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson because you know, people laughed when when Washington
Speaker 1: picked him up, and he played pretty pretty well with
Speaker 1: Washington given his age. So I don't know, but yes,
Speaker 1: that's where we are, that the Titans are gonna work
Speaker 1: out Adrian Peterson and and as as far as again,
Speaker 1: today's Baseball Writers Association of America announcing finalists for all
Speaker 1: the major awards tomorrow is not only the first college
Speaker 1: football playoff rankings, but it's also the NFL trade deadline.
Speaker 1: And Adam Schefter reported in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: I think This tweet came out because I I went
Speaker 1: an entire Sunday without realizing this till yesterday evening that
Speaker 1: apparently nothing's gonna happen with DeShawn Watson. That's the word
Speaker 1: that he is just going to remain in this purgatory
Speaker 1: situation with the Houston Texans and that will be the
Speaker 1: end of that. Well, they feel they want value, but
Speaker 1: who want who wants him? I mean you want you know,
Speaker 1: your quarterback often is the face of your franchise. Went
Speaker 1: this got to be the face your franchise. You don't
Speaker 1: at this point without legal stuff, Yeah, I mean at
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, it's too big of a risk. And
Speaker 1: the only team that he appears to have cleared or
Speaker 1: appeared to have accepted as a trade Miami. They came
Speaker 1: out with that strange statement last week where it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'd like him, but we want everything resolved. Well things
Speaker 1: aren't gonna get resolved by tomorrow. So that's where we are. Which,
Speaker 1: by the way, let me just say this from an
Speaker 1: NFL standpoint, Roger Goodell should be counting his lucky stars
Speaker 1: because if something happened and Deshaun Watson played this year,
Speaker 1: oh the backlash that was gonna come on that. But
Speaker 1: we'll see twenty four hours away a little plus twenty
Speaker 1: four hours plus away from the NFL trade deadline. All right,
Speaker 1: Last afternoon game, last of three, another divisional rematch here
Speaker 1: Gil Cardinals at Forts Cardinals at Niners. Cardinals with the
Speaker 1: extra rest, losing to Green Bay last Thursday night, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray was thirty two and defeat to seventy four, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two picks, sacked twice. Again, the Thals were minus three
Speaker 1: in turnovers and we're out time of possessioned if you will.
Speaker 1: Thirty seven twenty five San Francisco yesterday they get to
Speaker 1: three and four. Jimmy Garoppolo seventeen of twenty eight for
Speaker 1: three twenty two, no touchdowns, no picks, wasn't sacked, five carries,
Speaker 1: four yards, two touchdowns. How about that little line under
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Now these nine the Niners are twenty five
Speaker 1: and eleven straight up in Garoppolo starts seven and twenty
Speaker 1: eight with all other quarterbacks Elijah Mitchell, who they seem
Speaker 1: to like more than Trace Sermon eighteen for one thirty
Speaker 1: seven and a touchdown debo six for one seventy one
Speaker 1: Yesterday are you even got on the box score? There
Speaker 1: you go, four for forty five. The biggest player that
Speaker 1: game though, third and nineteen at their own sixteen seven
Speaker 1: twenty eight left in the third quarter, down sixteen to nine,
Speaker 1: Garoppolo quick little out pass, the Debo Debo takes it
Speaker 1: eighty three yards, leading to a touchdown three plays later,
Speaker 1: and that game changed on that Yes, Justin Fields had
Speaker 1: a spectacular play, which we'll talk about later, but that
Speaker 1: was the biggest player that ball game. And the Niners
Speaker 1: beat the Bears thirty three to twenty two, covering in
Speaker 1: the process covering the four and a half point to
Speaker 1: US Bread Arizona minus four on the road. My numbers
Speaker 1: come to three and a half right now, I see
Speaker 1: two and a half Arizona. I gotta tell you, talking
Speaker 1: at downgrade Arizona, I mean, they really easily could have
Speaker 1: won that game. I mean, if the guy turns around
Speaker 1: and catches the ball in the end zone, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not the Castles versions I nim I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened, but he easily could have won that game.
Speaker 1: They had three turnovers and still in it all the
Speaker 1: way in the end. You know, I've been very slow
Speaker 1: to come around on Kyler Murray. Still am a little
Speaker 1: bit uh, definitely on Kingsbury the coach, but nonetheless, um jeez,
Speaker 1: I my number came to three and a half years four,
Speaker 1: it's two and a half, pretty much a blanket. What
Speaker 1: the hell M an open three. Let's see if they
Speaker 1: want to take it, they probably will. Is the polar
Speaker 1: opposite of the last two weeks in the NFL, like
Speaker 1: I like way too many games this year this week
Speaker 1: and liked nothing, virtually nothing the last two weeks. Like Arizona.
Speaker 1: I like Arizona. I like them a little bit crazy,
Speaker 1: but I like him at two and a half. My
Speaker 1: number comes at three and a half. I am in
Speaker 1: open three. So there's there's You want to come down
Speaker 1: South Point in half an hour, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of half points for you. Jeff looks like he
Speaker 1: ate something bad. No, No, it's that's a shame that
Speaker 1: the numbers opening where it it was, because I was ready.
Speaker 1: If it was four four and a half. San Francisco
Speaker 1: would have been a bet for me this week because
Speaker 1: I thought they should have won that game in Arizona.
Speaker 1: While running the wing tea with Trey Lance. That's right,
Speaker 1: the win t game alright, Sunday night football. Yeah, the uh,
Speaker 1: the the air kind of gets sucked out of this
Speaker 1: one with the Henry news. But Tennessee at the Rams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So this is what I was saying earlier again, Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry to undergo an m r RI today to find
Speaker 1: out the full extent of the injury. It also could
Speaker 1: be one of these situations. Let me just also point
Speaker 1: this out because I have some medical folks on the side,
Speaker 1: so of hinting here, but this is the Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: tweet from earlier that Titans running back Derrick Henry suffered
Speaker 1: a potentially season ending foot injury during their thirty thirty
Speaker 1: win win over Indianapolis yesterday. That, according to ESPN Jay Glazer,
Speaker 1: adding later hearing Derrick Henry broke fifth metatarsal on his
Speaker 1: foot Nobe Bueno. So it also could be one of
Speaker 1: these things where if it is, you know, an injury,
Speaker 1: maybe it's also a he's out the rest of the
Speaker 1: regular season, could be back for a postseason thing, which
Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee's got six wins bank there, six and two,
Speaker 1: But man, is it going to be tough without Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: If that's the case best record in the a f C.
Speaker 1: Currently Tennessee at six and two. Tannehill was twenty two
Speaker 1: of thirty two for two sixty five yesterday and their
Speaker 1: win over the Colts three touchdowns, two picks, sack three times,
Speaker 1: two carries for twenty six yards and Derrick Henry himself
Speaker 1: was sixty eight again. Little did we know he had
Speaker 1: the broken foot. A J. Brown ten for one fifty
Speaker 1: five and a touchdown. Uh. Tennessee had a fourth and
Speaker 1: two at the Indianapolis forty seven down set been team
Speaker 1: of fourteen with eleven thirty six left in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: They went for it and converted it again. Just a
Speaker 1: little fourth down corks these days. Tennessee overcame eleven penalties
Speaker 1: for a hundred and sixty one yards yesterday, still one.
Speaker 1: I was talking about this with Michael Bonnisana, who won
Speaker 1: the Booby Prize in circum Millions last year. Do you
Speaker 1: ever remember a team come back from more fourteen point
Speaker 1: deficits than the Titans do? Just anecdotally, just seems that way.
Speaker 1: They're playing the Rams Rams one. They crushed the Texans yesterday,
Speaker 1: but on the on the final score it was thirty
Speaker 1: eight to twenty two, they were thirty eight to nothing.
Speaker 1: Stafford was twenty one of thirty two for three or five,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, no picks, he wasn't sacked. Henderson Jr. Fourteen
Speaker 1: for ninety and a touchdown, Cooper Cup seven for one
Speaker 1: fifteen a touchdown, Van Jefferson three for eight eight um
Speaker 1: with Derrick Henry. And this is what I was saying earlier.
Speaker 1: Not only is it a big loss for football if
Speaker 1: he can't play, and for the Tennessee Titans specifically huge,
Speaker 1: but for sports betters in a sport pre flop at
Speaker 1: s where it is just so difficult to find anything
Speaker 1: that doesn't end up being plinko at the end. That
Speaker 1: was the one thing in the pre flop markets that
Speaker 1: I think wasn't baked in properly. Like the we the
Speaker 1: market has become so anti running back that I don't
Speaker 1: think it properly accounted for the the marvel that is
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. Now without him we lose that. You know,
Speaker 1: I think with him the Rams were gonna be a
Speaker 1: small I would have guessed the Rams a smaller favorite
Speaker 1: than what probably would have been because I do that
Speaker 1: with the Titans every week. I am more into them
Speaker 1: than the market is. But now without him, it's got
Speaker 1: to be Rams minus seven, right something like that. It's
Speaker 1: really seven and a half. I mean I really hadn't
Speaker 1: had a chance to go through my power rating since
Speaker 1: the injury was an ounce. I had at five with
Speaker 1: Henry had at four. Okay, Um, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: it's seven a half. I guess that sounds okay, you
Speaker 1: know it'd be worth at least two and a half
Speaker 1: i'd say in the points. But a couple of notes though.
Speaker 1: First of all, Derek Henry, how many more yards he
Speaker 1: has in the second place runner hundreds? It's like three
Speaker 1: d fifty. Yeah, you know that's all. But it's on
Speaker 1: the other side, Matthew Stafford number one in both passer
Speaker 1: rating and QB are away number one a QB are
Speaker 1: passer rating. He's actually second beyond Russell Wilson, who's not
Speaker 1: playing Tyrod Taylor, who played a game and a half. Uh. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I really think the Rams are playing some
Speaker 1: great football. I mean, I think you gotta open seven
Speaker 1: a half see where it goes from there. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what to say. By the way, haven't mentioned QB
Speaker 1: R in a couple of moments here. Uh, Stafford seventy
Speaker 1: point five yesterday. Also, uh, Jimmycaroppolo eighty five point six.
Speaker 1: Ye did played a healthy game? He did, He absolutely did.
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Speaker 1: tweets at beating the book. Ah, this is from hello
Speaker 1: person at bleed Nuts Blue sent me a piece from
Speaker 1: the as Central dot com report. Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: has an ankle sprain that could be a one to
Speaker 1: three week issue. So he was he was like, tread lightly, Gil,
Speaker 1: He's right, I should tread light. Who's their backup? Who
Speaker 1: is their backup? Who is the Cardinals backup? Colt McCoy
Speaker 1: ended up in Arizona. He's confident. And by the way,
Speaker 1: that's a great question for a lot of these teams,
Speaker 1: Like did you know Trevor Simeon was the next guy
Speaker 1: off the back? I had no no clue whatsoever. This
Speaker 1: is from a Craig Parlay. I believe that's how it's pronounced.
Speaker 1: If the Saints make the playoffs with Trevor Simeon at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Peyton may be more deserving than Belichick. Craig Parlay Jeff
Speaker 1: Jeff Dad, I don't think he's wrong. I don't think
Speaker 1: he might not be wrong, might not be wrong, might
Speaker 1: not be wrong at all. All right, Monday Night Football?
Speaker 1: What we got Monday Night football? Chris andrews Umbie Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers hosting the Chicago Bears, boil boy. The Bears three
Speaker 1: and five, the Steelers four and three. Justin Fields yesterday
Speaker 1: and the loss against San Francisco nineteen seven for one
Speaker 1: seventy five, one touchdown, one pick, sacked four times, ten
Speaker 1: carries for one oh three and a touchdown that included
Speaker 1: the type of play that they hope in Chicago they
Speaker 1: will get to see from Justin Fields over and over.
Speaker 1: A game was fourth and one at the San Francisco
Speaker 1: twenty two. The Bears were down twenty three to sixty
Speaker 1: ninety three left in the game. They go for it,
Speaker 1: and Fields, who looked like he was sacked about three
Speaker 1: different times on this play, the young that the play
Speaker 1: of his young career, scrambles out, not only gets the
Speaker 1: first down, goes all the way to the house, and
Speaker 1: they went wild in Chicago still lost the game. Didn't
Speaker 1: convert the extra point after that touchdown immediately after they're
Speaker 1: the most euphoric moment. They missed the extra point. Oh god.
Speaker 1: They were eight of fifteen on third down. They did
Speaker 1: have a thirty seven eleven nine time at possession edge,
Speaker 1: But all of that's very misleading when Deebos going eighty
Speaker 1: three yards on a play total yards for the Bears
Speaker 1: and defeat. And then there's your Steelers, who we talked about,
Speaker 1: beat the Browns fifteen to ten. Don't know what Kevin
Speaker 1: Stevanski was doing late, not kicking a field goal, But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, they have Ben Roethlisberger three point oh
Speaker 1: or whatever this is. They've won three Stags three straight
Speaker 1: rather since a one in three star Big Ben was
Speaker 1: twenty two of thirty four for two sixty six, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: no pick stacked twice, Nazi ninety one on the ground
Speaker 1: and touch down, three catches for twenty nine, Deonta Johnson
Speaker 1: six catches for ninety eight. Keep playing this game. Three
Speaker 1: to three, fourth and nine at the Cleveland ten left
Speaker 1: in the second quarter. You thought this was going to
Speaker 1: be the key play because you thought Pittsburgh's gonna lose
Speaker 1: this game because of a vacat de fake field goal
Speaker 1: play where they send their great kicker Chris Boswell rolling
Speaker 1: out throws a you know, throw a pass to get
Speaker 1: a you know, a conversion. Excuse me, pardon me, yeah,
Speaker 1: fake field goal rather to instead of kicking the field
Speaker 1: goal to go up six to three, Oh, let's get
Speaker 1: the conversion. Instead, he gets popped and concussed. And oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, the past was incomplete. By the way,
Speaker 1: was also fourth and one at their own forty eight,
Speaker 1: down ten to three with six six left and the
Speaker 1: third quarter, they went forward and converted. Down ten to nine,
Speaker 1: they had to go for two because of the Boswell
Speaker 1: injury because he was concussed, and though they got it,
Speaker 1: they had a holding penalty that negated it. So they
Speaker 1: went for two from the twelve failed. Then on the
Speaker 1: ensuing kickoff, they had to have their punter, Presley Harvin
Speaker 1: the third kicking the ball. What did he do on
Speaker 1: the kickoff? Kicked it out of bounds. The d did
Speaker 1: bail them out, though, so the Steelers got to the
Speaker 1: to the victory, but it wasn't without overcoming all of
Speaker 1: that miss. You guys, which they did luckily for the Steelers.
Speaker 1: All that said, now, are the Steelers going to be
Speaker 1: a popular survivor pick next week? Because I got him
Speaker 1: at about a six point favorite here in Chicago. What's
Speaker 1: six and a half. I'm not I'm gonna open six amp.
Speaker 1: My power ratings come a little higher eight, but I
Speaker 1: you know, I don't trust the Stealers and that as
Speaker 1: a favorite, certainly. A couple of comments on this game.
Speaker 1: The Bears, they're going crazy now over Justin Fields. He
Speaker 1: had a good game, he looked pretty good. They're so
Speaker 1: desperate for a quarterback. There just a quick little aside
Speaker 1: years ago, when Peyton Manning got hurt when he's playing
Speaker 1: with the Colts. Colts wanted up being two and fourteen
Speaker 1: without Peyton. Some sports writer said, I'm gonna vote Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning the m v P because it's obvious that he
Speaker 1: was so u I mean, only a sports writer could
Speaker 1: come up with something that's stupid to vote for a
Speaker 1: guy that didn't play. And I remember writing it. This
Speaker 1: guy said, well, I'm gonna vote for Sid Gilman because
Speaker 1: the Bears haven't out of quarterbacks since Sid Gilman left.
Speaker 1: They're so desperate for quarterbacks. I vote for slinging Sammy
Speaker 1: Ball every year. I mean, why not give the Sid
Speaker 1: Gilman vote on that same theory. Anyway, they're desperate for
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They did lose the game, did not cover,
Speaker 1: but I still raise him a little bit on my
Speaker 1: power rating. Tell you what I did like about the Steelers.
Speaker 1: They ran the ball. That real young offensive line looked
Speaker 1: pretty good yesterday. I don't know, let's not go crazy,
Speaker 1: but I think six and a half. I think it's fine.
Speaker 1: Like I said, even though my power rais come a little,
Speaker 1: I do not trust the Steelers is a favorite. Even
Speaker 1: though I got my Steeler tie on Where's the Camera
Speaker 1: given to me by the great Roxy Rocks bro So
Speaker 1: Roxy Warriors for you and for the Steelers. If we lost,
Speaker 1: this would still be in the closet. This show gave
Speaker 1: me inspiration to give you a Christmas gift, by the way, too,
Speaker 1: and it has nothing to do with your tie. But
Speaker 1: that's for another time. Um. All right, so here's the deal.
Speaker 1: My answer to my own question is I don't trust
Speaker 1: the Steelers for survivor. If I can't even get there yet,
Speaker 1: I have to win tonight. All those all those of
Speaker 1: us who have the Chiefs. We have to get by
Speaker 1: that first, but we'll get the survivor in a second.
Speaker 1: Uh what do we like best? Then? So though I
Speaker 1: like the Jets, you keep cautioning me, and I respect you, sir,
Speaker 1: so perhaps I should heed that caution. But I do
Speaker 1: like based on the numbers that we were talking about,
Speaker 1: we don't know what the story is with Houston, whether
Speaker 1: it's Davis Mills or Torrott Taylor. So I can't really
Speaker 1: comment on that. But you're saying the New Orleans line
Speaker 1: against Atlanta was what that's five and a half? I'm
Speaker 1: opening six, Okay, So I like New Orleans. I think
Speaker 1: I like the Raiders. What did you open the Raiders
Speaker 1: at the Giants? I'm gonna open three. I I kind
Speaker 1: of like the Raiders too. I just don't want to
Speaker 1: mess around with that with the threes. You know this
Speaker 1: this place with the three three and a half, everything
Speaker 1: is eleven and ten. I don't want to mess with
Speaker 1: that right now. Site unseen on the Giants, but it's three,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a cheap number on the Raiders.
Speaker 1: But of course we have to see what happens tonight.
Speaker 1: So I'll say I'll say New Orleans based on the numbers,
Speaker 1: New Orleans, the Raiders, UM, Baltimore, and the Chargers and
Speaker 1: maybe no, And I can't do that one now because
Speaker 1: knowing the Kyler Murray issue. So those are the four.
Speaker 1: I like? Those are the four. I favor every one
Speaker 1: of those that you just said myself. I like the Colts.
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna the heads a part on that one.
Speaker 1: I like the Ravens, and I like the Saints. We
Speaker 1: agree on too. I kind of like, um, the Raiders
Speaker 1: and Chargers. I'm not marking them down yet. I mean,
Speaker 1: but if unless the Giants really do something to night,
Speaker 1: I would put myself with the Raiders as well. Terrifies
Speaker 1: me that I like four of these. Again, polar opposite
Speaker 1: of the last two weeks parlay, What do you like
Speaker 1: think I'll take two favorites that are just shy of
Speaker 1: three off of Chris's numbers. I like the Bengals in
Speaker 1: a bounce back against Cleveland laying two and a half,
Speaker 1: and I like the Chargers laying two and a half
Speaker 1: against an Eagle team that there are three wins this
Speaker 1: year have come against Atlanta, a Sam Donald implosion, and Detroit.
Speaker 1: The team is still terrible guys. Cincinnati has lost all
Speaker 1: three of their games by combined nine points. We all
Speaker 1: love the Chargers. You know what that means, be careful? Well,
Speaker 1: actually I could go wrong Hill. It means the Chargers
Speaker 1: win by one and we don't go it's probably will
Speaker 1: happened all right then, and then again again, I haven't
Speaker 1: gotten by survivor this week, so let me just caveat
Speaker 1: it with that. But if you look ahead to next week,
Speaker 1: the the biggest spreads on the board therefore will be
Speaker 1: Indianapolis hosting the Jets, uh Dallas hosting Denver. We don't
Speaker 1: know about Miami yet because we don't know who's playing
Speaker 1: quarterback for Houston. New Orleans is kind of bigg ish,
Speaker 1: but not really five and a half, right, Buffalo is
Speaker 1: the biggest spread on the board at Jackson. They're the
Speaker 1: biggest one by for Baltimore will be big hosting Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and there you go, and then there's Pittsburgh hosting Chicago.
Speaker 1: Those are the biggest spreads on the board. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of options and none of them feel Besides Buffalo,
Speaker 1: none of them feel great. Well, of course, you can't
Speaker 1: use the team twice, so who I mean you used yet,
Speaker 1: probably haven't used the Steelers yet. I have not. The
Speaker 1: only one of those that I've used is the Colts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you might not have used probably I'm us the Dolphins
Speaker 1: yet A want No, I haven't used that. So there's
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of ways ago. If it's
Speaker 1: Davis Mills, do you do you play a one in
Speaker 1: seven Dolphins team and survivor? Jeff is like, not a chance.
Speaker 1: That's stuff. I don't know. I don't trust that any
Speaker 1: less than I trust the Steelers. I'm serious, could really listen.
Speaker 1: I've seen this movie too many times. They win games
Speaker 1: they're not supposed to and lose games that they also
Speaker 1: are not supposed to. Let me just get past tonight
Speaker 1: and then we can deal with all survivor the rest
Speaker 1: of the week tomorrow on the show, Joe Peter, you
Speaker 1: don't want to miss that about a whole array of topics. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll do that tomorrow. In baseball, the World Series continues.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Chrissy, Thank you to Jeff. Thank you
Speaker 1: for listening to numbers game. At least these sports betting
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