1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Thursday morning, we will be in South Bend and if 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to join us, we'll be outside 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Legends Pub on the campus and Notre Dame Thursday and Friday. 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: First come, first serve, standing room only. Parking is self 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: directed there. And I'm not sure what the weather is. 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: I didn't check. I just thought, okay, it'll be football 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: weather in South Bend. Pauli as our resident meteorologist. What's 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: it looking like on Thursday and Friday. 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: A little balmy, a little warm, almost high of sixty 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: eight and partly cloudy. 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: That's not football weather. It might be football weather. 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: When we start our show, no, which is fifty five 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: degrees as football. 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: Wee, but it can't be as cold as Las Vegas 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: was when we were out there for the Super Bowl. 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 4: Weirdly cold. 19 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's We're up at four thirty in the morning 20 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you go outside and you're like, oh, 21 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: I hope those heat lamps are on. But it's a 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: great atmosphere. Been out there for a few football games. 23 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: The atmosphere is wonderful. And USC coming to town off 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: a big win against Michigan. I was a big win. 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: That might be Lincoln Riley's biggest win of his career 26 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: at USC. Not a lot of coverage because USC not 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: ranked in the top twenty five. They will be now 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: the big news over the weekend as James Franklin got 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: fired as the head coach at Penn State. And when 30 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: you're the first team since nineteen seventy eight to lose 31 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: consecutive games as a favor to twenty or more points, 32 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: and you're already on a warm seat. They decided, I 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: mean forty nine million dollars to go away. I wish 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: somebody would do that. I don't want you around so much. Here, 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: take this money and go away. But James Franklin, he'll 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: get a job. If you look at his overall record, 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: you go, dang, that's impressive. It isn't until you start 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: looking at the meaningful games. And as I said last week, 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: and I heard from the Penn State alumni, why are 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 2: you picking? Why are you piling on? I'm only pointing 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: out something. If you want to be a big time program, 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: you have to have high standards. Michigan wouldn't have settled 43 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: for that. Ohio State, Georgia Alabama, just to name a few. 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: You don't lose those games. You don't lose that many 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: games to top ten teams, and they did and it 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: cost him. But we'll talk to Rick new Heiseel, the 47 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: former coach who's been fired a couple of times. He 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: works for CBS. He was out in Eugene for the 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: Oregon game against Indiana, and Indiana Indiana dominated that game. 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: That was a wonderful performance and I thought, boy, can 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: they hold up in that environment against an Oregon team 52 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: that I thought was just going to be too fast. 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: This is different for Indiana Indiana. I didn't think Indiana 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: was a playoff team last year. I certainly do this year. 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: They got a quarterback, two receivers, the defense is really good, 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: and you know, they could be talking about a bigger 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: picture here by the end of the year. But we'll 58 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: talk to Rick new Heeiseel. New Heeisel, the CBS crew 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: is on the field, and he gave an oh by 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: the way, that he didn't think Bill Belichick would be 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: the head coach at North Carolina after this season. He'll 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: talk about that. North Carolina had a bye week. Now 63 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: they go out to cal and who knows what happens 64 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: if they come back with a loss eight seven, seven 65 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: to three. DP show email address TP at Danpatrick dot com, 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: Twitter handle that DP show. I'm gonna be honest with 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: you as I always am. I forgot there was baseball 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: last night. I forgot that the Blue Jays and the 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Mariners played last night Game one of the ALCS. Big 70 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: Dumper hit a home run, and here is the call 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: of the game winning. Do we have this, Marvin? 72 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: Yep? 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 6: This is from Friday. 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 5: Oh okay, yep. 75 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: Three two pits out of the way. Sayah drive, They said, 76 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: right field, all right, bullock for the lock up single. 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: He The Americas are gonna play for the America League. 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Exam good ship. 79 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: The Marinis win the battle at Seattle at fifteen nights. 80 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: The Marinis win it three to two, So fifteen innings 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: on Friday they get into the ALCS. They have to 82 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: go to Toronto. I think they had travel problems, playing issues, delays, 83 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: but then they pick up the win last night. You 84 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: have baseball today tonight. You got Dodgers Brewers Game one, 85 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: and you have Mariners Blue Jays Game two. I couldn't 86 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: help but think when the Brewers won and the first 87 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: thing I thought of Vin Scully and Bob Buker. Don 88 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: you imagine that showdown between those teams, but those broadcasters 89 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: in the building first thing I thought of. But in 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: memory of those great broadcasters, hopefully we get a great series. 91 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: All right, Chiefs over the Lions. I guess everybody's back 92 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: on the Chiefs banwagon. And they didn't have a penalty 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: called last night on the Chiefs Navenia. Yeah, Chargers over 94 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. It's more than just one law the Dolphins 95 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: that it's a bad situation and they could have won 96 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: that game. It's where, Okay, you lost the game, you 97 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: played pretty well. The Chargers did what you want them 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: to do. They score. I just I was surprised at 99 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: Miami with too a tongue of Iloa's comments after the game, 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: because in a loss, I want to see what you do. 101 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: I want to I want to hear what you're talking about. 102 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: You know, Aaron Glenn, the Jets head coach, wasn't really 103 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: recognizing the elephant in the room talking about Justin fields 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: and how bad he played nine sacks minus ten yards passing. 105 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: I'll give you that comment coming up in a moment. 106 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: But here is too a tongue of Ioloa, who threw 107 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: three interceptions, talking about his teammates. 108 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 7: I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate 109 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 7: that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out 110 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 7: of the guys, right, we're expecting this? 111 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 5: Are we getting that? 112 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: Are we not getting that? 113 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: We have guys showing up to. 114 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 7: Player only meetings late, guys not showing up to player 115 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 7: only meeting Like, there's a lot that goes into that. 116 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 7: Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we not 117 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 7: have to make this mandatory? So so it's it's a 118 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 7: lot of it's a lot of things of that nature 119 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 7: that we got to get cleaned up. And it starts 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 7: with the little things like that. 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: Okay, if you're a leader, then why don't you handle 122 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: this in house? Why did it get to a press conference? 123 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: You're the quarterback? Why did it get to a press conference? 124 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: You don't have to tell us everything, tell us what 125 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: we need to know or you think we need to know. Now, 126 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I'm questioning your quarterback, and I'm 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: questioning your coach and the front office here and the players. Congratulations, 128 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: you gave us the trifecta there, But when you throw 129 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: three interceptions. That's when you have to go with your 130 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: hat in your hand and say, hey, this starts with me, 131 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: and I hope to get it together. I want all 132 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: of us to meet and understand and air this out 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: so how we can rectify this. We're one in five 134 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: right now, and they are playing as if they want 135 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: to get their coach fired, and they're talking as if 136 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: they want to get their coach fired. Don't tell me. 137 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: You don't have to. I mean, I'm in the content business. 138 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: I love it. But if I'm a teammate or I'm 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: a coach, shut up. Do what you need to do first, 140 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: and then if you want to talk about other things, 141 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: how about we talk as a group. But man, that 142 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: felt like, man, this is leadership. Okay, maybe he is 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: throwing himself under the bus, but it doesn't sound like that. 144 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: You threw three picks. You were at home, you should 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: have won the game. I don't think you should be 146 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: calling people out. And hey, guys are showing up late 147 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: to meetings. If you have player only meetings after six weeks, 148 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: that says an awful lot about your team. Player only 149 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: meeting after week two that says an awful lot, not 150 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: only about the players, but also the coaches. All right, Seaton, 151 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: what's the poll question today? Oh, by the way, here's 152 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn. He's the head coach of the Jets and 153 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: Justin Fields. Did he have a zero point zero zero 154 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: quarterback rating? 155 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: You can't have a zero. You get like you can't. 156 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: I think you get like fifty two points just for 157 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: showing up like the SATs. 158 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: Oh you get like seven hundred. 159 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, here's the question to Aaron Glenn, the 160 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: Jets head coach on Justin Fields for next week. 161 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 5: Just numbers knocking steam? You know you don't need to 162 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 5: be your quarterback next week? Or come on, man, what 163 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 5: kind of question is that? 164 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: Hey? 165 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: Your games? 166 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 7: There's a number of guys that you know, I mean, 167 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 7: sometimes this league is like this and there are guys 168 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 7: that have bad games. 169 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 5: That doesn't mean you just bench them. Come on, you 170 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 5: know better than that. Okay, that's a fair question. It is. 171 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Aaron Glenn can act tough and about culture 172 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: and whatever. You know what, that's a fair question because 173 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: Justin Fields he was sacked nine times and I watch 174 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: a lot of the game and a lot of those 175 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: are because of him. Because you hold onto the ball 176 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: or you don't get rid of it quick enough, or 177 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: you try to make something happen with your legs. It 178 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: feels like every week I talk about this, get the 179 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: ball out or go down? Get the ball out or 180 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: go down? First read right there go. Kurt Warner was 181 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: talking about that, one of the greatest quarterbacks at reading 182 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: quickly getting the ball out. Kurt Warner's saying, you got 183 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: a guy open right there go. It's well, he's kind 184 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: of you know, maybe I can know it's right there. 185 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: And this is the difference between that quarterback who comes 186 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: out of college into the NFL and I got to 187 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: do all of this in college in high school to 188 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: the guy two or three years later who understands I 189 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: need to get the ball out quickly, read it and react. 190 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: And Justin Fields was running around and I didn't think 191 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: the Jets offensive line was that bad. But he threw 192 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: for forty five yards and he was sacked nine times, 193 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: so you could see you could feel Aaron Glenn's a 194 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: little frosty that. How dare you ask me if Justin 195 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: Fields off that performance is going to be my quarterback 196 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: next week? 197 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 5: All right? 198 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: Seaton Poll question, what are you thinking about? 199 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 8: Well, we normally start with who had the worst weekend? 200 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 8: But this one I want to start. Before we can 201 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 8: populate who had the worst weekend, we have to figure 202 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 8: out if this person actually had a bad. 203 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 5: Weekend or not. 204 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 8: James Franklin, did he have a bad weekend? Got fired, 205 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 8: lost another one, but is likely going to get picked 206 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 8: up pretty soon by a probably pretty good program, and 207 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 8: got a massive check for getting fired. Is that a 208 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 8: bad weekend? 209 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: It's an embarrassing weekend. It's like, you know, you have 210 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: you're a really good guy, but you had one night 211 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: that you you know, you messed up and you're like, 212 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: all right, that feels bad, and you wake up the 213 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: next day and you go all right, and then further 214 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: along it doesn't feel as bad. I think the embarrassing 215 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: part of that, and but boy that it'll make you 216 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: feel a whole lot better with that forty nine million dollars. 217 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: So I would I would say it in the moment, 218 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: had a bad night, bad weekend, lost his job. But 219 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: bigger picture is you're going to get paid, and he'll 220 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: coach someplace else next year. 221 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 8: Yes, he's going to get that, you know, forty nine 222 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 8: million dollars, and then he's going to get hired at 223 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 8: a place like Arkansas or something. Who's going to be like, 224 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 8: holy crap, we got James Franklin. This is amazing, and 225 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 8: he's going to be treated like a savior there. That's 226 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 8: how he's going to land on his feet. For getting 227 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 8: fired is crazy. I don't know that there is a 228 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 8: more lucrative profession than being a failed college football coach. 229 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 8: No doubt, it's the best gig in the world. 230 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll talk to Rick Neuheisel about that. You know, 231 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: did they do the right thing because this is mid 232 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: season and this is where you don't want somebody to 233 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: win their way back, and he could have won his 234 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: way back, and then now you have a real dilemma 235 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: as well. Well, I mean, you can always fire him, 236 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: but this is where this can't continue. But man, you 237 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: have to ask the alumni in the boosters, Hey, we 238 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: we have to pony up and pay this guy off. 239 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: Somebody's got to write a check, yeah, Paul. 240 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 3: And this buyout for James Franklin goes back to twenty 241 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: twenty one. In twenty twenty he was four and five. 242 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, he was seven and six and 243 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: people were bailing on him. The current president gave him 244 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: a ten year extension after a seven and six season, 245 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: which is still being questioned by people in Penn State. 246 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 3: But the next three years eleven wins, ten wins, thirteen wins. 247 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: Why a ten year deal. 248 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 4: After a seven and six season. 249 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even even if he was, you know, 250 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: had eleven wins, like ten years, it's an eternity. And yes, 251 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: you may lose your coach, but you gotta be damn 252 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: sure if you're going to give him a ten year deal, 253 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: you have to be sure. And I was never sure 254 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: in it because he didn't win big games. And if 255 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: that's what you want to be and you want to 256 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: prove that you belong with Ohio State, in Michigan and 257 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: Oregon in the Big ten, now Indiana and the big like, 258 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: you have to you know, hey, we don't put up 259 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: with this. 260 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 8: Yeah see, but I think that he I mean, he 261 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 8: got a ten year deal because that's kind of the norm, 262 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 8: isn't it. Like you could even go back to Charlie 263 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 8: Weiss where he got a ten year deal, and then 264 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 8: people they just get ten year deals with a monstrous 265 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 8: buyout at the end of it, knowing that no one's 266 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 8: ever going to see the the end of that contract, 267 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 8: the life of that contract is. 268 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: I just don't understand ten years, even for baseball players, 269 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: like we're giving them a fifteen year deal. Man, there's 270 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: a lot that can go wrong in fifteen years, ten 271 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: years with a coach five years, that's the max. Five years. 272 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: Five years. Then you can establish your identity, you can 273 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: get your players, we can find out how good you are. 274 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: Then after that then we can discuss. But man, this 275 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: is that's expensive divorce. Yeah, Pauline. 276 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: However, if you're Indiana University, you have to offer your 277 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: coach Signetti a ten year contract now or someone else 278 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: will in February. 279 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: But isn't five years enough. 280 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: It's like a game that's being played by the agents 281 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: of college football and everyone's in on the joke. They 282 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: all work together to get these monster extensions for each 283 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: other because they know they'll get it elsewhere. 284 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: But I'm going to give you five but I'm going 285 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: to pay you accordingly. Signetti, India is like the sixth 286 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: highest paid coach in the Big Ten, Right, I'm going 287 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: to pay you in accordance to what you're doing and 288 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: what you've done with this program. I'm going to give 289 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: you five years. 290 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 5: I don't need to give you ten. 291 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: Are you here for the bigger picture, because we're here 292 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: for this at five years and he might say or 293 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: his agent go, hey, why not ten? This guy got 294 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: ten and that guy got ten. 295 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 5: No. 296 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: College football is changing too rapidly, and you can be 297 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: really good and then really bad. And I think that's 298 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: where you have to be careful with falling in love 299 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: with somebody. 300 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean you look Jimbo Fisher ten year contract, 301 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 8: James Franklin obviously, Brian Kelly ten year deal, Kirby Smart 302 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 8: ten year extension. They're all getting these ten year contracts 303 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 8: to maximize whatever money they could get. 304 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: All right, your phone call says we always do every Monday, 305 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: best and worst of the weekend. Up next next Rick Neuheisel, 306 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: who talked about Bill Belichick over the weekend not coming 307 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: back for another their year in his opinion, and did 308 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: Penn State do the right thing and firing James Franklin. 309 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: We're back after this. 310 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 311 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 312 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 313 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 9: Paully fools Gohare with Tony Foodsco. Yeah, as everybody knows, 314 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 9: we're the hosts of the award winning Polly Antoni Foodsco. 315 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 5: Show. 316 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, but instead of us telling you how great we are, 317 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 9: here's how Dan Patrick described us when he came on 318 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 9: our show. 319 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated. What you doing interrupting our promo? 320 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you wasn't talking about you. You took those clips 321 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: totally of context. 322 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you 323 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 9: out and beat you. 324 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: Let me put this into context. 325 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Shut up. 326 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Toni Fusco 327 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 9: Show on iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts O wherever you get your podcasts. 328 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: Yea uh Rick Neuheisel, CBS sports college football analyst, and 329 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: he was in you Gene for the big upset with 330 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: Indiana and Oregon, which we'll talk about in a moment. 331 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: We been spending a lot of time talking about Penn State. 332 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: Did Penn State do the right thing? With James Franklin. 333 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 10: You know, it's hard to imagine a business saying it's 334 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 10: the right thing when they're letting fifty million dollars go 335 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 10: out the door and dead money, which is exactly what 336 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 10: this is but I think, Dan, what we're in is 337 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 10: an era where we're asking so much of our fan 338 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 10: base to participate financially with nil you know, the collectives. 339 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 10: I know we're doing it in house, but still that 340 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 10: money's got to come from somewhere. And so I think 341 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 10: what we've got is a bunch of kind of pseudo owners. 342 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 10: And this is what happened with Jimbo Fisher at Texas 343 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 10: A and m some rich oil guy said he's got 344 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 10: to go, I'll write the check. And I'm sure something 345 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 10: close to that happened at Penn State and Patcraft had 346 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 10: to move. 347 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: You know, the record. If you just look at his 348 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: record overall record, you go, that's pretty impressive and just 349 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: about any university would sign up for that. But I 350 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: said last week, there's there's the blue blood programs that 351 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't put up with that kind of one loss record 352 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: to ranked teams. Ohio State, wo Michigan Wood and Alabama wouldn't, 353 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: Georgia wouldn't. Penn State had to decide are we do 354 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: we want to be in that group? Are we going 355 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: to accept this? And I thought Franklin did a wonderful 356 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: job in restoring you know, agreed some of the greatness 357 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: to that program, But it's not a coincidence that he 358 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 2: couldn't be, you know, ranked teams. 359 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 10: The number of games that went the other way make 360 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 10: it no longer a coincidence. I agree with that there 361 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 10: was something in the DNA that just didn't allow them 362 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 10: to play free in those games, So I get it. 363 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 10: I don't know that in the middle of the season 364 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 10: it makes a lot of sense, but it does put 365 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 10: them as the best job available. And if they're looking 366 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 10: for a guy, I know Kurt Signetti's name is the 367 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 10: one that everybody's using if they're looking for somebody. 368 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 6: It does allow the winels to start turning. 369 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: How do you get paid or how does the university 370 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: pay you when you get fired? 371 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 6: Is it? 372 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 10: The Jimmy Sexton deal for Gus Malson was half of 373 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 10: it was due in thirty days, so he had twenty 374 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 10: one million coming at the end of that deal, and 375 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 10: so Gus got. 376 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 6: Ten point eight ten point eight in thirty. 377 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 10: Days, and then over the life of the contract they 378 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 10: paid the other ten point eight. 379 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 6: I penned the song did I Ever Tell You You're My Hero? 380 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 10: To Gus spouse, You're everything that I would like to 381 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 10: be Bette Midler didn't sing it with as much emotion 382 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 10: as I did. 383 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: I promise you the Indiana handling Oregon. You were at 384 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: that game and it felt like Indiana buzz the better 385 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 2: team and kind of took control of it. Was there 386 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: a turning point for you in that game. 387 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: I think it was shocking. 388 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 10: I was thinking that the Oregon offense would be just 389 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 10: too fast. I just had in my mind, you know, 390 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 10: maybe you know the Midwestern farm Plotters would be on 391 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 10: defense and it was just going to be lightning fast. 392 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 10: Whether it be the pace or the speed of the players. 393 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 10: They kept their edges. 394 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 6: All day long. That is a dang good. 395 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 10: Defense playing for Indiana, to go along with a rising 396 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 10: star in Fernando Mendoza and two really good, probable NFL 397 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 10: guys playing wide receiver. I just think that's a really 398 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 10: good football team. And I think it was kind of 399 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 10: shocking to Oregon that they could not use their speed 400 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 10: to an advantage. 401 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 6: Give the Hoosiers all the credit in the world. 402 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: Talking to Rick new Heisl CBS Sports College football analysts, 403 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: they were in Eugene for Indiana's win at Oregon. I'm 404 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: watching the broadcast and you were very matter of factly 405 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: saying Bill Belichick will be relieved of his duties at 406 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: North Carolina or something similar to that at the end 407 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: of the year. 408 00:20:54,520 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 10: I can't imagine this going much longer if what we're 409 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 10: seeing continues, and what we're seeing is a very average 410 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 10: to below average team on the field that doesn't look 411 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 10: like they're having any fun, doesn't look inspired. The coach 412 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 10: has taken, you know, breaks in the middle of the season. 413 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 10: I asked a couple of guys that I know who 414 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 10: played for Coach Belichick, would he ever take like little 415 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 10: vacations in the middle of a bye week. 416 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 6: Says that car was parked in that parking lot twenty 417 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 6: four to seven. That's where he lived. 418 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 10: I just don't see this as something that both sides 419 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 10: are going to say can continue one for the legacy, 420 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 10: especially if the money's right for Belichick. I see at 421 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 10: the end of the season this going in a vastly 422 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 10: different direction. 423 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: But does somebody hire him in the NFL, let's say 424 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: the Dolphins job was open. 425 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 10: I can't imagine. I can't imagine somebody can go and 426 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 10: get Bill Belichick at this age, and given what we 427 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 10: just saw and the guy who said no distractions has 428 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 10: been distraction with a capital D. 429 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 2: I thought it was a big win for us, an 430 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: impressive win to beat Michigan. I don't know how good 431 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 2: Michigan is, and I'm not quite sure how good USC is, 432 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: but you got to win that game knowing you got 433 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: Notre Dame this weekend. 434 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 10: To me, it's the best win Lincoln Riley's had at 435 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 10: SC because, as you point out, he has to be 436 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 10: able to play with the bullies and Michigan had just 437 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 10: run rough shot over Nebraska, not so much in the points, 438 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 10: but in terms of just running the ball. For SC 439 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 10: to hold up in the trenches and to find a 440 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 10: way to win that game puts them in the contest. 441 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 10: And now they've got a real banner game this week 442 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 10: against the Irish, kind of a must win for both 443 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 10: of them. 444 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 6: As it relates to. 445 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: CFP, any memories of South Bend were taking the show 446 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: there later in the week. 447 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 10: You know, I've never been there for a game. I 448 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 10: have been there for spring practice. I got to speak 449 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 10: at a spring clinic for Brian Kelly. I have been there. 450 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 10: Tony Alford used to be their running back coach. He 451 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 10: was my running back coach at Washington, so he gave 452 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 10: me the tour. The place is unbelievable. I mean it 453 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 10: is unbelievable. You're in for a treat, but it's it's 454 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 10: gonna be raucous for game day. And how about the 455 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 10: Irish with just kind of presto chango. They're back right 456 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 10: controlling their own destiny again with the two quality losses. 457 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, Thanks for joining us, have 458 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: a great week. 459 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 6: Always a pleasure, my friend. 460 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 1: Rick new Isel. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 461 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 462 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app 463 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: search FSR to listen live. 464 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: John Smoltz, Hall of Famer baseball on Fox lead analyst 465 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: and he was on the call with Joe Davis for 466 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: the Alds, Blue Jays Yankees in the booth for the 467 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: Mariners and Jays got underway last night first pitch tonight, 468 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: Game two from Toronto at I think five oh three 469 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: Eastern on Fox. Before I get to the baseball, we 470 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: were just talking about respected bands, great bands that you 471 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: don't like, and Seaton came up with the who Fritzy 472 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: doesn't like Springsteen or Dylan and the Beatles. Marvin who 473 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: was your pick, Jimmy Hendrick, Pauli, Pink Floyd, Pink Floyd, 474 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: what about you, John respected band that you don't like. 475 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 5: You know, I'm not much of a I'm not much 476 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 5: a follower of that of bands. You know. 477 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 11: I grew up, as you know, playing the accordion, take 478 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 11: it or leave it? Weird Al Yankovich, you know, I mean, 479 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 11: he's would make fun of the accordion. 480 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 5: He was brilliant, actually, But I don't know. 481 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 11: I hear a lot of people talk about black Eyed Peas, 482 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 11: but I'm not a good guy to really. 483 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 5: Ask when it comes to bands. 484 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: I don't follow anybody, to be honest, when's the last 485 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: time you played the accordion? 486 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 11: I tried to play it at my daughter's wedding in May. 487 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 11: I was gonna we have a famous chicken dance song 488 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 11: that we play every wedding. My daughter did a great 489 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 11: job and running the she found in the court and 490 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 11: you can't find him anymore. And the key was stuck 491 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 11: so he couldn't play it. So it either saved me 492 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 11: or but that would have been the last time. 493 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: It's been a long time. 494 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: Is that the no no no no no no no 495 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. 496 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 5: That's the song we kind of grew up on. 497 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: Actually, all right, let's talk baseball here. Now you've seen 498 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: Seattle in the in the Blue Jay. I was surprised 499 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: Seattle won that game, considering fifteen innings, going cross country, 500 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 2: traveled issues, and a Toronto team that seemed to be 501 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: on fire. From what happened with the Yankees. What was 502 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: the big difference do you think last night? 503 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 11: Well, the big difference was Toronto's offense didn't get on 504 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 11: base a lot and other than the first inning, Bryce 505 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 11: Miller had one of the greatest games I think you'll 506 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 11: ever see a young man pitch given the circumstances. Look, 507 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 11: this is a hard team to face, and especially at home. 508 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 11: We saw the Yankees get absolutely obliterated on great pitching 509 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 11: by the Yankees, just made it look like they'd never 510 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 11: pitched before. So I was a little bit surprised that 511 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 11: Seattle was able to hang in there on adrenaline alone. 512 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 11: I've been part of those long eighteen inning game. Come back, 513 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 11: try to play, you know, a day and a half later. 514 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 11: It takes its toll. But as they said on the telecast, 515 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 11: if they can hang in there, adrenaline gets you through 516 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 11: the rest of that game. And Bryce Miller was a 517 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 11: batter or two away from this being an ugly game, 518 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 11: and it turned into an epic game because he had 519 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 11: first pitch home run, then runners on first and second, 520 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 11: one out, and that's when the crowd in Toronto and 521 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 11: their offense gets going and they never got another run. 522 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: I don't think anyone could have predicted that. 523 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: When do you know to take out a pitcher if 524 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: it's just mathematically with pitches or I mean, and how 525 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: much is gut feeling talking to the catcher, you know, 526 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: getting a sense of something more than just the analytics 527 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 2: say I got to pull you. 528 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 529 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 11: I think the biggest thing that gets overlooked is the 530 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 11: swings the hitters are putting on the picture. I don't 531 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 11: think they look at it as a direct response. They'll 532 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 11: look at analytics, spin or velocity or just basically say 533 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 11: third time through, I'm not even going to let him 534 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 11: get there. And I think the managers that in this 535 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 11: postseason have let their player have a moment is winning 536 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 11: the games, meaning pictures that are going into the eighth 537 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 11: inning are winning. Pictures that get taken out by fourth 538 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 11: or fifth inning. You start rolling the dice, and I'll 539 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 11: be honest, the Seattle Mariners are here because the greatest 540 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 11: picture of our generation was only able to go six innings. 541 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 11: If he goes seven innings, I don't think you can 542 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 11: make an argument that Seattle would be here. So they 543 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 11: benefited from all that work that they put in the 544 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 11: file off pitches and get his pitch count up. 545 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 5: I was watching that game. I was shocked. 546 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 11: But based on the ear, he's never pitched over one 547 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 11: hundred and five pitches. So Seattle is a benefactor from 548 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 11: what Toronto does. 549 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: Very well and make your pitch count go way up. 550 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: The Dodgers have been relying on their starters, but it 551 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: feels like they have to because of that bullpin. 552 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 11: Absolutely, it's a total flip of the script. Last year 553 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 11: they had no starters that they could count on, so 554 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 11: they relied on their bullpens guys, and they used them 555 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 11: and just really all of them got hurt. And now 556 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 11: they've established such a depth that is working in their 557 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 11: favor that you're seeing guys like Blake Snell first time 558 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 11: ever ever getting into seventh inning. 559 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 5: In a postseeding game. 560 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 11: I mean that to me is like, shouldn't be a narrative, 561 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 11: but it is, and I think now you're seeing again pitchers. 562 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 11: At one point it was twelve and one. The pitcher 563 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 11: that went longer than the other pitcher, they won the game. 564 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 11: I know lately it has been a couple losses, but 565 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 11: I think teams are going to have to trust their 566 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 11: starters and know that they are having a moment and 567 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 11: don't look. I'll give you one sixty two analytical reasoning 568 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 11: and philosophy, I'll give it to you one sixty two. 569 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 11: It doesn't apply in a best of five and a 570 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 11: best of seven. 571 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 5: It doesn't. 572 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 11: It's just it doesn't work that way. And when you don't, 573 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 11: when you don't deviate, you're really running the risk of 574 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 11: that one sixty two model not working in a best 575 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 11: of seven, because you never know if that one guy 576 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 11: is going to be on that exceeds what he would 577 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 11: do in the regular season, if you'd never give him 578 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 11: that moment, I think you miss out. 579 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on Dave Roberts leaving Clayton Kershaw 580 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: in or having him come back for that next inning? 581 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I saw it from afar. I thought that, 582 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 11: you know, Clayton Kersall, what a moment. I just can't 583 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 11: even imagine the adrenaline and the rush that he was 584 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 11: going through. Knowing his careers over and he's had a 585 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 11: couple of those weird innings in postseason in his history. 586 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 11: It really is hard to explain. But I think for 587 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 11: for Dave Roberts and everything that he believes and trusted 588 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 11: his team, and that was a two to zero situation, 589 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 11: right if it's two to one, I think the things 590 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 11: are different. I know you say, oh, it's just one game, 591 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 11: but in a short series that could mean the difference. 592 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 11: I think he trusted what his team was capable of doing, 593 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 11: even if that didn't go well, and it certainly didn't, 594 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 11: and it approved that, you know, the next game they 595 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 11: were able to handle and get that win. 596 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: Do you think like there's certain trends and we've spoken 597 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: about this, that you go in and throw as hard 598 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: as you can for as long as you can, then 599 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: next man up. That's basically pitching. But when it comes 600 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: to hitting, are we going to find more teams with 601 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: their best player leading off with success with Otani Kyle Schwarber, 602 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if you have other teams that come 603 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: to mind that we're going to hit you right away 604 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to get more at bats with my guy. 605 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 5: And that's where I kind of differ philosophically. One sixty two. 606 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 5: I get it. 607 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 11: You might get thirty five to forty more at bats 608 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 11: and your best player, and that might win you one 609 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 11: to two to three baseball games, which could be the 610 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 11: difference for some teams in the postseason. I still don't 611 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 11: get that because now you're not running the same models 612 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 11: in a best best a seven series. How many more 613 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 11: at bats is Otani gonna get it if it goes 614 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 11: seven versus the second hitter? 615 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 5: And is that going to be enough to help him 616 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 5: win a game? Now? 617 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 11: Otani's a freak. Let's leave him alone. He's the leadoff hitter. 618 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 11: He can hit for power, he can steal. But I'm talking, 619 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 11: let's just talk about Schwarber, you know, not getting him 620 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 11: into RBI situations. You look at Toronto and how they're built. 621 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 11: Guerrero bats in the three spot. It's perfect for him. 622 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 11: Imagine if Guerrero their best hitter or Bulper Schett their 623 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 11: best hitter, is leading off. Now, all of a sudden, 624 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 11: you in a short series as a pitcher, I have 625 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 11: an advantage I think over their best hitter. Because he's 626 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 11: not going to come up with too many times with 627 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 11: runners in scoring position. So one sixty two, again, I 628 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 11: get it. I've never understood it in a best of five, 629 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 11: but that's the thing. They never changed. So if you 630 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 11: do it the whole regular season, you're going to do 631 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 11: it in the postseason. And that's like splitting hairs a 632 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 11: little bit for me. But I would you imagine Barry 633 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 11: Bonds today, he would be leading off, thank you, thank 634 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 11: you for a guy who gave up nine home runs, 635 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 11: Thank you, lead off home run. I don't care like 636 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 11: those are the kind of things that in the postseason 637 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 11: when you're not giving your best hitter the chances to 638 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 11: get with runners on over the course of the season. 639 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 11: That's what that's my only argument about that. That narrative 640 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 11: that works in the one sixty two. Like Aaron Judge 641 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 11: batting second, he had a third a lot, But Aaron 642 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 11: Judge is another great example of putting him in a 643 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 11: spot to have fear factor for runners on. 644 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 5: And I get it. 645 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 11: You know, nine guys, you start your lineup the way 646 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 11: you want and then it never works that way the 647 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 11: rest of the game. 648 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 5: I understand that. 649 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: Has anybody ever asked you to autograph a ball that 650 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: you gave up for a home run like the hitter 651 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: as any you don't believe so so that that's no 652 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: go you. 653 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 5: I would have done it. Oh, I would have done 654 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 5: it for sure. 655 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: So Bond said, hey, you know, I hit this one 656 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: off of you. 657 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 6: Would you autograph this? 658 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 5: Oh? Sure. 659 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 11: Now I've seen the flip where Bond's at the All 660 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 11: Star Game, some pitcher came to ask him for an 661 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 11: autograph and he said, heck, no, you hit me twice. 662 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 11: I at signing nothing. We're working on some Hall of 663 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 11: Fame resumes. Dale Murphy, Steve Garvey, Don Maddingly, Yeah, anybody else, 664 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 11: anybody else? Steve Garvey was a ten time All Star, Johnny, Yeah, no, 665 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 11: Steve Garvey was. I mean when I think of the Dodgers, 666 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 11: I think of Steve Garvey when I grew up watching, 667 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 11: you know, the seventies and the early eighties. But they're 668 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 11: all worthy, and you know, I'm I'm partial obviously to 669 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 11: Dale Murphy and what he did and how he did 670 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 11: it was such bad baseball teams, you know, I mean, 671 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 11: that's one thing that people don't take into consideration. Then 672 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 11: of course you got Andrew Jones coming up, who I 673 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 11: think is surefire Hall of Fame player who's yet to 674 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 11: get in. But but Don Mattingly is one of the 675 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 11: guys that everybody who from New York talks about and 676 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 11: how good he was and if he could have stayed healthier, 677 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 11: the numbers he would have put up, he would have 678 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 11: thrived in today's era. And that argument goes, I'll argue 679 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 11: anybody that the Tony Gwinns, the guys who did not 680 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 11: hit for power, could have thrived today because they don't swing, 681 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 11: you know, from. 682 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 5: Their dairy air, and they would get on base a lot. 683 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: More, but they would be swinging differently John, because they 684 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: would be brought up differently. Tony Gwyne brought up you 685 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 2: got to swing hard, Wade Boggs, Rodkrue. Unfortunately, they would 686 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: be told, hey, this is what the analytics say. 687 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 11: True, unless they have the special gift like an arise 688 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 11: like there are we're seeing a shift. It's slow. But 689 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 11: the Toronto Blue Jays and the Milwaukee Brewers are not flukes. 690 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 11: And why they're here. They put the ball in play, 691 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 11: they don't strike out. If you look at the last 692 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 11: twenty five World Series champions, you're not going to find 693 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 11: three of them that are in the top ten in 694 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 11: my memory that we're leading the league in strikeouts or 695 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 11: in top ten of strikeouts. It's hard to do. I know, 696 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 11: home runs are king and I get it. Like, but 697 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 11: when you can combine the boat, which Toronto does and 698 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 11: Milwaukee does, it changed. It changes how team plays against you. 699 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 11: It changes the narrative of you're gonna have to work 700 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 11: harder to get Toronto Blue Jays from eliminating them from 701 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 11: the series. 702 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 703 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: I've been saying that put the ball in play, get 704 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: a walk, take an extra base, steal a bit, like 705 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: all of these different things, and Milwaukee has done that. 706 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 2: They don't have star power, but it feels like they're 707 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: going to always be testing you and you're not. They're 708 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: not waiting for a beginning. It's just we're gonna it's uh, 709 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: death by water torture. It's going to be deep drip, drip, drip, drip. 710 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 5: No doubt. 711 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 11: And we've already seen a game and unfortunately the young 712 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 11: you know, fitcher for Philadelphia. When you put the ball 713 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 11: in play, you never know what's going to happen. But 714 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 11: when you swing in this you know what's going to happen. 715 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 11: And it's nothing, and and and again one sixty two. 716 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 11: They don't care how many strikeouts there are. But in 717 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 11: a postseason game, man, man on third, I've seen it. 718 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 11: We've seen the fifteen inning game. Just make contact. Game 719 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 11: over couldn't do it. And I think for Milwaukee that's 720 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 11: what makes them special. And they run, they field, they 721 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 11: have great arms, and they basically have drafted players that 722 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 11: fit the Mint narrative of how they're going to play 723 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 11: and that's why they Nobody, there is not one expert, 724 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 11: not one baseball expert, said Milwaukee, you have the best 725 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 11: record in baseball leaving spring training, not one. 726 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: Did you cry at your daughter's wedding? 727 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 5: I did not. 728 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 11: I did not, but I tell you it was I 729 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 11: had two of them this year, so one more coming 730 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 11: up in November. But I definitely if I would have cried, 731 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 11: if I'd have played the accordion probably See. 732 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 2: I got three daughters. There is no way I can 733 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 2: get through this without crying. 734 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 6: No. 735 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 11: Well, I've been very fortunate to have some really good 736 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 11: sun in laws and that helps. 737 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 2: And maybe you didn't care about your daughters as much 738 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: as I care about mine, so you're kind of. 739 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 5: That's a good part. 740 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, you're you were happy to get them out 741 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: of the house. I get it. I understand it, John, 742 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: I understand it. Hey have fun on the call. Tell 743 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 2: Joe we said hello and thanks for joining us. Oh well, 744 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: thanks Dan, all right, thanks John Smoltz.