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Speaker 3: This week's Senator Elizabeth Warren delivered a major speech urging

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Speaker 3: Democrats to start taking on the oligarchs as part of

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Speaker 3: their midterm messaging and their agenda going forward, catching strays

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Speaker 3: along the way with some elements of what is known

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Speaker 3: as the abundance movement. Let's throw up this post from

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Speaker 3: Doug Farrara, Elizabeth Warren said in her speech. When this

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Speaker 3: agenda is about making government more effective, count me in

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Speaker 3: instead of abundance has become a rallying cry for wealthy

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Speaker 3: donors and other corporate Dems who are putting big time

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Speaker 3: muscle behind making Dems more favorable to big business. Senator

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren is joining us now. Senator Warren, thank you

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Speaker 3: for being here.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. It's good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: And so you name checked Reid Hoffman among others in

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Speaker 3: this speech. Reid Hoffman one of his responses to Doug

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Speaker 3: Farar here was, I agree with Senator Warren that today's

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Speaker 3: economy is not working for most people. I want to

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Speaker 3: fix this by growing the economy. She wants to grow regulation.

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Speaker 3: Her politics shrinks the tent. We need a bigger, smarter

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Speaker 3: coalition that can beat Trump and deliver. What's your response

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Speaker 3: to billionaire Reid Hoffman here, Well.

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Speaker 5: Let's just put ourselves back a little over a year

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Speaker 5: ago when we're in the middle of a presidential race,

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Speaker 5: and what is the number one agenda that we've got

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Speaker 5: to draw and talk about, And it's affordability for families.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump is out there saying every single day I

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Speaker 5: will lower cost for American families on day one, on

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Speaker 5: day one, those were his words, A simple, direct, straightforward message,

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Speaker 5: and Reied Hoffmann donates seven million dollars to Kamala Harris's

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Speaker 5: campaign good thank you, and then spends a huge part

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Speaker 5: of her very truncated campaign hectoring her to fire Lena Khan. Now,

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Speaker 5: the relevance of that, a lot of people might say,

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Speaker 5: what's that got to do with anything. Lena Khn was

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Speaker 5: the head of the FTC, and the FTC was kind

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Speaker 5: of the tip on the spear of whatever was getting

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Speaker 5: done in a democratic administration to bring down costs. She

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Speaker 5: was the one who was fighting the fight to get

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Speaker 5: click to cancel. She was the one who was fighting

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Speaker 5: the fight to get rid of the non compete clauses.

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Speaker 5: She was the one breaking up the giant corporations. She

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Speaker 5: was the one carrying forward that agenda and really giving

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Speaker 5: us proof points that there were things that could be

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Speaker 5: done and Democrats were out there fighting for them. And

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Speaker 5: what's reed Hoffman doing. He's saying, if you want to

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Speaker 5: be my candidate, you got to promise to fire her. Now, look,

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, to her credit, Kamala

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Speaker 5: Harris did not fire or promised to fire Lena Khan

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Speaker 5: promise not to fire Lena Khan if she was elected.

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Speaker 5: And furthermore, Harris does this whole agenda rightly about prices,

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Speaker 5: price gouging, and the corporatists come in and get her

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Speaker 5: to narrow that agenda down. The supporting to us story

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Speaker 5: day one. So to me, this is the perfect setup

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Speaker 5: about what is it as Democrats we want to do

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Speaker 5: Let's not do things that are hard or would be

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Speaker 5: unattractive to Read Hoffman and to the billionaires of the world. No,

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Speaker 5: let's just take a very soft approach to this, or

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Speaker 5: we can see what is wrong. This economic game is rigged,

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Speaker 5: and we've got good, concrete proposals to fight back, and

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Speaker 5: Democratic party has a choice. To me, we can follow

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Speaker 5: or we can follow an agenda that actually works for

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Speaker 5: want to win elections than by galling. Instead of choosing

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Speaker 6: And part of Donald Trump's political genius obviously was recognizing

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Speaker 6: there was an opening for this for populism rhetorically on

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Speaker 6: the Republican side. And you spoke to President Trump speaking

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Speaker 6: could you tell us more about the conversation you had

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Speaker 6: I told him that Congress can pass legislation to cap

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Speaker 6: credit card rates if he will actually fight for it.

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Speaker 6: And that word, actually, I wanted to see if you

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Speaker 6: could give us more context for was your sense when

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Speaker 6: you discussed this with Donald Trump that he was quote,

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Speaker 6: actually serious about fighting for it.

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Speaker 7: Do you think you got through.

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Speaker 6: To him in any way, or that maybe he already

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Speaker 6: came to the conversation fully intending to go through with it.

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Speaker 4: So let's do a little history on this story.

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Speaker 5: Dating back years, I've talked about cap on credit card fees.

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Speaker 4: I mean, way way, way way back.

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Speaker 5: Remember that today Americans are paying about one hundred and

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Speaker 5: fifty billion dollars a year in interest on credit cards.

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Speaker 5: The giant banks are just rolling in the dough from

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Speaker 5: what they pull in on credit card interest rates. About

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Speaker 5: a year ago, Donald Trump pops up and says he's

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Speaker 5: interested in putting a cap on credit card fees. Immediately

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Speaker 5: remember that, and I immediately said, whoa simon, let's do this.

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Speaker 4: And what do we hear from Donald Trump after that? Nothing?

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Speaker 5: He did not lift a finger to try to get

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Speaker 5: that done, didn't talk about it anymore, didn't push anybody

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Speaker 4: So when I gave this.

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Speaker 5: Speech, there was Q and a afterwards in the question

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Speaker 5: that that sure, Donald Trump says he wants to do this,

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Speaker 5: but he hadn't done a damn thing.

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Speaker 4: So finished the speech.

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Speaker 5: I talked about a bunch of other things about costs.

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Speaker 5: Get in the car phone rings. I don't recognize the number,

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Speaker 5: but it's a two to o two, and I thought

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Speaker 5: and it actually is. The President of the United States says, yes,

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Speaker 5: cap on credit card interest rates. And here's my view

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Speaker 5: on this. I tried to make as clear as I can.

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Speaker 5: This is entirely possible. I mean, wow, the Republicans in

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Speaker 5: Haven't we already seen that They will do it when

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Speaker 5: they think it's a good idea. They will do it

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Speaker 5: wants something done, the one action that Republicans in the House.

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Speaker 4: And the Senate know how to take is to bow down.

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Speaker 4: That's that's it. You can really get this done.

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Speaker 5: And then I said, and while I've got you, how

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Speaker 5: about we also bring down the cost of housing. And

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Speaker 5: the problem here is you've all seen it how housing

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Speaker 5: costs just keep going up and up and up.

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Speaker 4: The reason for that is because we don't have enough supply.

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Speaker 5: We need about three million more homes in America, urban, rural,

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Speaker 5: first time home buyers, renters, seniors, people with disabilities. We

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Speaker 5: need need more and more, and more so. I worked

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Speaker 5: with Tim Scott, who is the Republican who's the chair

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Speaker 5: of the Banking Committee. I'm the ranking member. We put

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Speaker 5: together a bill, forty proposals in it, and the one

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Speaker 5: thing that unites them is they all push somewhat toward

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Speaker 5: increasing supply. This is not a magic bullet, but it's

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Speaker 5: a lot of small steps toward increasing supply, making permitting,

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Speaker 5: going faster EPA approvals. It's a bunch of yeah, man,

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Speaker 5: it is manufactured housing right to get more supply.

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Speaker 4: We got that bill.

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Speaker 5: Through the Committee and then through the United States Senate unanimously.

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Speaker 5: So why is it not law because Republicans in the

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Speaker 5: House have hung it up and won't move it forward.

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Speaker 5: So I said, mister President, while I have you, you

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Speaker 5: want to reduce costs for American thing families, get the

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Speaker 5: Republicans over in the House to turn this bill loose.

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Speaker 5: You can sign it into law by the end of

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Speaker 5: the day. Let's make this happen. And you know, it's

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Speaker 5: a good conversation, but talk is cheap. I'll be persuaded

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Speaker 5: when we see real action, because that's what families deserve.

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Speaker 8: Did he commit to doing anything like?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll talk to Mike Johnson about either credit cards or.

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Speaker 5: Look, I don't want to do the details of a

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Speaker 5: private conversation, but it gave every indication that he wants

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Speaker 8: Let's get it done now.

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Speaker 3: There's been reporting that Mom, Donnie and Trump, after they're

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Speaker 3: kind of love vest that they had in the Oval office,

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Speaker 3: have become kind of text buddies since then.

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Speaker 8: Did you save his number? Are you gonna send him this?

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Speaker 3: Send him this YouTube link afterwards and be like, look,

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Speaker 3: let's let's get this road to housing go through. Let's

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Speaker 3: get the credit card caps done.

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Speaker 5: I'm making clear the things that I want to get

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Speaker 5: I appreciate this. We're going to go back and forth.

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Speaker 5: If we've got opportunities to lower costs right now, let's

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Speaker 5: absolutely take them. But here's the part we have to remember.

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Speaker 5: We're coming up to an election on November fifth. I

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Speaker 5: who aren't just now, well, we're not as bad an

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Speaker 5: of course the Affordable Care Act. It's time for us

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Speaker 5: to be strong. It's time for us to be bold.

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Speaker 5: But right now is also the time to set the

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Speaker 5: foundation that we're going to run on, and to get

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Speaker 5: gave over four hundred thousand dollars to twenty three state

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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of those executives, we got about one minute left.

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Speaker 8: That would be nice. I appreciate it. Senator Elizabeth Warren,

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Speaker 3: Next, Representative Thomas Massey, who is less likely to get

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Speaker 6: That is Representative Thomas Massey of Kentucky. We cover you

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Speaker 6: all the time, Sara, so thank you so much for

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Speaker 6: Now we want to start with news out of Iran.

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Speaker 6: Why is it that these quote America First Republicans quote

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Speaker 6: We're getting deja vu right now? What's going on with

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, we didn't vote for regime change. We

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Speaker 7: Oh you have to vote for war, yes, that it works.

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Speaker 9: Right well, And what I mean is large to the population,

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Speaker 10: It's not even taken a few years to get there.

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Speaker 8: Also runs military.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he does run.

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Speaker 9: What happens inevitably is you have people who don't want

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Speaker 7: Once again, AUMF. They'll use right.

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Speaker 10: Those were all authorized by Congress.

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Speaker 9: So even though those were aomfs and not declarations of war,

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Speaker 3: So let's put the first element up on the screen.

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Speaker 7: So far, security continues to be strong nationally.

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Speaker 8: Yes here we are.

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Speaker 9: I call these weapons of mass distraction from the Epstein files,

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Speaker 9: She missed the deadline fifteen days after that, where they

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Speaker 10: So they missed two deadlines.

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Speaker 9: But I'm concerned more about what they're reacting and what

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Speaker 10: Hey, here's a suggestion, if you want to take it

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Speaker 9: Our problem is they've sent a letter to Congress saying

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Speaker 9: When Congress passes a new law, it supersedes the old law.

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Speaker 9: So some of the things that they're citing in order

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Speaker 9: to justify their reactions, they're saying, well, the Privacy Act

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Speaker 9: says that we have to protect the privacy of individuals,

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Speaker 9: but our bill specifically says you can't redact material to

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Speaker 9: prevent embarrassment and other things. And then the other thing

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Speaker 9: that are redacting for is they're saying, well, the Foyer standards,

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Speaker 9: which is Freedom of Information Act standards, allow us to

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Speaker 9: redact to protect our internal deliberations. Here's the problem. Our

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Speaker 9: bill is not a Foyer request. Our bill is a

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Speaker 9: law that the President himself signed. And the other thing

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Speaker 9: is we say specifically in our bill, you have to

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Speaker 9: release internal communications involving decisions about whether to an diet

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Speaker 9: or not. And so they're they're way off on their

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Speaker 9: legal reasoning. The thing is its might makes right. They're

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Speaker 9: doing this, they're disobeying the law because I think they're

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Speaker 9: trying to test and see if there's any way it

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Speaker 9: can be enforced.

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Speaker 10: And so we're doing the most polite thing possible.

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Speaker 9: We're just asking a judge to oversee this, and then

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Speaker 9: we could ratchet that up as we go along. We

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Speaker 9: can find them in contempt, we could if we can

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Speaker 9: get a majority of Congress to rule, we could say

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Speaker 9: they're an inherent contempt, which allows us to collect, to find,

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Speaker 9: or even to arrest people. At the DOJ, we could

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Speaker 9: do an impeachment of pambonding. That is a longer process

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Speaker 9: because it would have to pass the Senate. So there

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Speaker 9: are and then we could there could be civil litigation

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Speaker 9: in courts that could also get to this. What's clear though,

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Speaker 9: is somebody's got to make the age follow the law,

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Speaker 9: and I would like to remind them anyway at the

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Speaker 9: do who's watching this show right now? This isn't a subpoena.

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Speaker 9: It's a law, and so it doesn't expire at the

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Speaker 9: end of this Congress, so a future Attorney General can

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Speaker 9: prosecute anybody who's involved in disobeying this law.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was actually just going to ask about that. What

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Speaker 6: mechanism might exist to hold them accountable if, for example,

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Speaker 6: they are just making mass redactions or holding things for

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Speaker 6: national security purposes, anything that falls into that umbrella, Potentially

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Speaker 6: it would just be the political system that an opposition

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Speaker 6: party would come into power and prosecute pamp Bondi or others.

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Speaker 10: At the DOJ, it could do that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean the next administration could come in and

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Speaker 9: prosecute them. The reason that typically hasn't happened in the

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Speaker 9: past is because Congress, whether like it's an oversight committee

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Speaker 9: or the Judiciary Committee, issues a subpoena, somebody doesn't show up,

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Speaker 9: and then from the DOJ Clintons for example, Yeah, the

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Speaker 9: Clintons for example. But the harder case is when you

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Speaker 9: have somebody at the DOJ who's thumbing their nose at Congress,

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Speaker 9: so you refer contempt to the and the DOJ says,

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Speaker 9: you know, we don't think we're going to find ourselves

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Speaker 9: in contempt.

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Speaker 10: So they never act upon it.

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Speaker 9: And it's a time bomb with a fuse that defuses itself.

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Speaker 10: At the end of a Congress.

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Speaker 9: Because subpoenas expire if they were issued by one Congress,

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Speaker 9: they don't carry into the next Congress.

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Speaker 10: This is a law that doesn't go to the end

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Speaker 10: of Congress because.

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Speaker 9: Forever, like literally, if somebody doesn't comply. I even hate

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Speaker 9: to say this, it's just a thought exercise ten years

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Speaker 9: from now, the Attorney General he finds an Epstein file,

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Speaker 9: is compelled to release it.

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Speaker 3: Over at drops I News that you've done some reporting

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Speaker 3: based on the documents that you guys have forced into

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Speaker 3: the public, as well as some from the inbox of

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Speaker 3: a Hood Barack, former Prime minister and teleficial Israel, which

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Speaker 3: shows very clearly that whatever else Epstein was doing, definitely

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Speaker 3: at times he was working with Israeli government officials in

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Speaker 3: the interests of the Israeli government. So people can make

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Speaker 3: of that whatever they want. What have you encountered about

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Speaker 3: that relationship as you've.

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Speaker 8: Kind of pushed for the release of these.

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Speaker 6: Documents, and as a pack and billionaire money pours into

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Speaker 6: your race, which you've handled in one reelection. You're popular

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Speaker 6: in your district time after time. Seems like there's a

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Speaker 6: target on your back for a reason.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's either a really small world or these I'm

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Speaker 9: a I'm a coincident theorist, now, not a conspiracy theorist.

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Speaker 9: I'm observing coincidences like, for instance, one of the three

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Speaker 9: billionaires funding the race against me is in Epstein's Black book.

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Speaker 9: Now that came out many years ago. It's John it's

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Speaker 9: not an indictment. John Paulson, and these are the three billionaires,

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Speaker 9: you know, one's Miriam Adelson, one's Paul Singer. They're all

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Speaker 9: connected very deeply to Israel, as was Epstein. And in

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Speaker 9: the case of John Paulson, he shows up in the

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Speaker 9: Black Book of Epstein.

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Speaker 10: And again I a would say, that's not an indictment.

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Speaker 9: There are probably lots of people who Epstein had their

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Speaker 9: personal cell numbers and may have had legitimate conversations about

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Speaker 9: a scholarship or something. But that's the kind of connections

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Speaker 9: that we're seeing here. And you know Ahood Barack, for instance,

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Speaker 9: we know he met with Epstein at least three dozen times,

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Speaker 9: and it may have overlapped with when he was actually

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Speaker 9: an official. Oh it did working for Israelism. I can

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Speaker 9: confirm that, okay, good Defense Minister. He was formerly Prime

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Speaker 9: Minister and then Defense Minister. I submitted to the record

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Speaker 9: in a congressional hearing with Cash Ptel, right there in

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Speaker 9: front of us five documents that establish a connection between

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Speaker 9: Epstein and intelligence agencies. Quotes from his security guard, for instance,

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Speaker 9: the meetings with Ahod Barack, the fact that Epstein met

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Speaker 9: with our own acting Director of CIA. I believe then

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Speaker 9: they became later became the director.

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Speaker 10: There's strong connections there.

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Speaker 9: And you know, the bill that Rocanna and I released

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Speaker 9: has been criticized for saying that you can react to

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Speaker 9: protect national security, and so they might, for instance, try

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Speaker 9: to redact his connection to the CIA. The problem is

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Speaker 9: they need to say when they're redacting for national security,

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Speaker 9: they still need to release those documents and have the redactions.

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Speaker 9: That's the other thing about these reactions. They're just putting

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Speaker 9: black on everything. They're not putting why they've reacted it.

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Speaker 9: You know, Okay, we're trying to protect a victim here,

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Speaker 9: or maybe we're trying to protect a billionaire from embarrassment

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Speaker 9: in this case.

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Speaker 3: Was it true, by the way, that the reason they

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Speaker 3: screwed up the redactions on the last tranch was that

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Speaker 3: Doge made them get rid of their Adobe pro account.

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Speaker 8: Did you hear that story that?

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Speaker 3: Because if you don't have a pro you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to do the sloppy method, which you can just copy

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Speaker 3: paste and break through it.

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Speaker 8: People were able to jail break all these files.

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Speaker 10: You know, I don't think we defunded there.

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Speaker 3: That would be kind of a double win for you

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Speaker 3: because you were support of them.

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Speaker 9: I'm just mad it was disclosed that you could unredact

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Speaker 9: these things fairly soon.

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Speaker 10: I was hoping they would release more of these things.

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Speaker 7: That all you had to do, keep it quiet, let

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Speaker 7: them do it.

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Speaker 9: You know, maybe they they're Adobe Photoshop pro license lapsed.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, but I'm pretty sure they got plenty

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Speaker 9: of sharpie markers over there. They could have printed this

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Speaker 9: stuff out and did a sharpie and then scanned it

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Speaker 9: back in.

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Speaker 10: I'm glad they did it the way they did.

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Speaker 9: I just wish there was more stuff we could unredact,

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Speaker 9: and eventually I think we will.

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Speaker 6: Now your weapons of mass distraction point would be turned

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Speaker 6: around by you. In fact, the entire predicate for your

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Speaker 6: primary opponent's campaign is that you yourself are a distraction from

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Speaker 6: the mega agenda. And as a libertarian, something you've had

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Speaker 6: to think about your entire career is that threats to

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Speaker 6: personal freedom and liberty and constitutional order come from both the.

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Speaker 7: Left and the right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so when we faced such an authoritarian Reinald disagree

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Speaker 6: with me on this, but an authoritarian threat to speech

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Speaker 6: and personal liberty from the Biden era left a lot

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Speaker 6: of people on the right said it's just important to

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Speaker 6: go pedal to the medal for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: Let Mike Johnson.

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Speaker 6: Cook, how are you thinking about these things now? Do

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Speaker 6: you feel like you've done more? Obviously you feel like

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Speaker 6: you've done more good than harm. But what do you

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Speaker 6: think about the people who say Thomas Massey has done

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Speaker 6: more harm than good to the cause of personal liberty?

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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I vote with my party ninety

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Speaker 9: one percent of the time, and in the nine percent

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Speaker 9: I don't. They're taken up for protophiles, state starting a

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Speaker 9: new war or bankrupting the country.

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Speaker 10: Now, there's none of those things are maga.

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Speaker 9: None of those things are maga. It's not the maga

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Speaker 9: that I signed up for. Not the president I endorsed,

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Speaker 9: not his mission. I did endorse Donald Trump before you know,

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Speaker 9: the November election, which was a big step. He and

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Speaker 9: I talked on the phone about that endorsement. He was

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Speaker 9: very thankful for it. I told him I was doing

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Speaker 9: it because I thought there were still a lot of

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Speaker 9: libertarians and independence on the fence, and he agreed. He

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Speaker 9: was so excited about my endorsement. I said, well, how

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Speaker 9: do I get this endorsement out there? And he said, oh,

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Speaker 9: just tweet it, I'll retweet you, we put it on

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Speaker 9: true social I get.

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Speaker 10: It out there for you. And then he's like, the

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Speaker 10: Libertarians love me. They all applauded for me at the convention.

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Speaker 9: And anyways, it wasn't I do believe it was consequential.

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Speaker 9: At least he thought it was consequential enough to put

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Speaker 9: it on his own social media.

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Speaker 10: So it's you know, I speak at rallies.

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Speaker 9: I did not OK that. I just called him up

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Speaker 9: on the phone and he took my call. He says, hello,

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Speaker 9: this is Donald you know, and I said, yeah, it

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Speaker 9: was a very interesting phone call. But eventually we got

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Speaker 9: to the point.

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Speaker 8: After a number at the time, or did he just

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Speaker 8: answer it's to or it's not to it?

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Speaker 9: He was on a plane to go tape Joe Rogan,

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Speaker 9: and I'm pretty sure he doesn't answer random calls. I

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Speaker 9: think I'm in there under sharp cookie, tough cookie, because

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Speaker 9: every time he answers, he goes, oh your showed cookie,

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Speaker 9: you went to m I t I was just gonna

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Speaker 9: you know, my uncle, Professor John G.

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Speaker 10: Trump tutted it forty one years. It's a record. I've

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Speaker 10: get the best genetics, so.

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Speaker 9: And I've heard that like every time so I think

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Speaker 9: in his phone it says sharp cookie or something, and

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Speaker 9: also tough cookie.

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Speaker 7: But now it says what does he call you?

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Speaker 9: Now? Oh gosh, the litany of adjectives. I went from

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Speaker 9: a third rate grand standard to he endorsed me. After that,

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Speaker 9: after twenty twenty he endorsed me. Twenty twenty two, it

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Speaker 9: called me a first rate defender of the Constitution. Now

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Speaker 9: I'm back to third rate grand standard, low life.

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Speaker 8: What was the latest thing?

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Speaker 6: Was it?

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Speaker 8: Epstein? Like? What was the break for him? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I wonder.

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Speaker 9: If he's got it, if like there's some secret project

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Speaker 9: that's a time machine over at the White House and

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Speaker 9: they let him turn the knobs and look into the future,

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Speaker 9: and he sees that I do something great to his detriment.

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Speaker 9: And so now every morning he wakes up trying to

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Speaker 9: figure out how to derail me from my path. And

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Speaker 9: obviously I'm being facetious here. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 9: It's you know, he came to our GOP conference at

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Speaker 9: the beginning of this session of Congress in January and

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Speaker 9: mentioned me three or four.

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Speaker 7: Times at the Kennedy Center sphere. Yeah, so you were.

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Speaker 9: There Trump Kennedy Center, right, Yes, I was not there,

659
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Speaker 9: but my friends all came up to me who were

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Speaker 9: there and said, he mentioned you like four or five times,

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Speaker 9: not by name each time, but was Cleary was speaking about.

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Speaker 9: Here's but to the main point, there's this narrative people

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Speaker 9: are trying to say, I've stopped an agenda. I didn't

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Speaker 9: stop the big beautiful Bill. I didn't stop all these crs,

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Speaker 9: which are basically the Biden budgets, which.

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Speaker 7: Mike Johnson said we wouldn't be governing by cr.

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Speaker 10: I haven't stopped anything yet.

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Speaker 9: And the only thing where I've really changed the course

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Speaker 9: of Congress this Congress is to get the Epstein Files

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Speaker 9: Transparency Act passed. I have forced some transparency on them,

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Speaker 9: and I think that's what they dislike when they have

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Speaker 9: to vote on whether to go to war or not,

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Speaker 9: and then on some of the amendments, like I'm going

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Speaker 9: to offer amendments to defund things that you know allegedly.

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Speaker 10: Here's part of the cognitive dissonance. I think.

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Speaker 9: Over at the White House, there's all this fraud in

677
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Speaker 9: these programs like refugee resettlement programs, the daycare programs. The

678
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Speaker 9: White House has tried to withhold funding for five different

679
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Speaker 9: states at least, and a judge said you can't do that,

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Speaker 9: and they're complaining that the judge said, we know this judge,

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Speaker 9: he's got too much power. The reason the judge can

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Speaker 9: do that can say that is President Trump signed the

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Speaker 9: bill that said he would give the money, and Republicans

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Speaker 9: wrote the checks to give the money. Once you pass

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Speaker 9: a spending bill, it's a law, and so you have

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Speaker 9: to follow the law. They have an opportunity, the Republicans do,

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Speaker 9: and this president does by January thirtieth, to put those

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Speaker 9: guardrails in if they want to withhold money or say

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Speaker 9: that or put guardrails around things to keep fraud from happening.

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Speaker 10: There's a bill coming up this week and next.

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Speaker 9: Week to do that, and so somebody needs to not

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Speaker 9: sign the bill, if that would be the president. If

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Speaker 9: it perpetuates the fraud, I'll be interested to see how

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Speaker 9: that goes.

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Speaker 6: Can't wait for the National Endowment for Democracy another three

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Speaker 6: hundred million, as you've been pointing out, that's in the minibus.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to predict it does.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to predict they don't stop that, even though

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Speaker 9: they complain about it.

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Speaker 10: And it's a tool for intervention overseas.

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Speaker 9: It's a tool for the CIA, it's it's and it's

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Speaker 9: a lot of money going overseas. I don't think that's

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Speaker 9: going to make America great again.

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Speaker 6: And my final question for you is actually back when

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Speaker 6: you did an interview with my colleagues and me at

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Speaker 6: the Washington examinerary in like twenty seventeen, and I wrote

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Speaker 6: a story afterwards about something so interesting you said, which

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Speaker 6: is that back in twenty twelve and you'd been campaigning

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Speaker 6: with Ron Paul and Rand Paul, you thought everyone was

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Speaker 6: super excited, you know where I'm going to with, I'm

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Speaker 6: super excited about like libertarian ideas, and you found out

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Speaker 6: ultimately that they were just looking for the craziest son

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Speaker 6: of a bitch in the race.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, are you.

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Speaker 6: Now the craziest son of the son of a bitch

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Speaker 6: in the race? Are you gonna win by being more

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Speaker 6: maga th maga?

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean I.

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Speaker 9: Did apply that that name to myself back then. Even

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Speaker 9: I said that when they elected Ron Paul and Ran

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Speaker 9: Paul and myself, I thought they were the Republican Party

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Speaker 9: was going more libertarian, more constitutional. And then I saw

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump getting a race and take the same base

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Speaker 9: that we had and then I realized at that point

725
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Speaker 9: they had not been voting for the libertarian or the constitutionalists.

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Speaker 9: They were voting for the craziest son of a bitch

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Speaker 9: in the race, disruptor, the disruptor, And you know it's

728
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Speaker 9: a I use that as a term of endearment. By

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Speaker 9: the way, of course, I think I'm the only sane

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Speaker 9: Republican in the race right now, or the only one

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Speaker 9: that's forming an opinion that sometimes deviates from the group.

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Speaker 7: Think the sanest son of a bitch.

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Speaker 9: Probably it looks crazy up here, but back home, I

734
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Speaker 9: don't think it looks crazy when you say I don't

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Speaker 9: think we should increase spending. I don't think we should

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Speaker 9: topple governments overseas. I don't think we should be covering

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Speaker 9: up for this pedophile ring. Is that crazy? If that's

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Speaker 9: all crazy, then I'm crazy.

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Speaker 3: How's the polling look like? Have you done any or

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Speaker 3: is there public polling?

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Speaker 10: You didn't see Donald Trump's tweets?

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Speaker 9: No, I missed it, He says, He's reported three times

743
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Speaker 9: on the polling. At one point, I was at six percent,

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Speaker 9: but I'm back up to nine percent.

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Speaker 10: I've hovered around eight percent.

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Speaker 8: Jump.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and the President's tweets. The reality is I am

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Speaker 9: winning back in the district. And even when you inform

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Speaker 9: and the race hasn't heated up, I've got a primary

750
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Speaker 9: on May nineteenth. Okay, even though they spent two million

751
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Speaker 9: dollars disparaging my name, they haven't really spent any money

752
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Speaker 9: promoting my opponents.

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Speaker 10: He has a zero name ID.

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Speaker 9: So when we pull it, and we pulled it in

755
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Speaker 9: September and December, and we put him on the ballot

756
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Speaker 9: both times, I beat him by a large margin. If

757
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Speaker 9: you go in and tell the people, oh, but Trump

758
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 9: has endorsed him, and look at how it changes. I'm

759
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Speaker 9: still winning the race even with the Trump endorsement.

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Speaker 10: So we'll see. There's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 10: money spent. I think there.

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Speaker 7: Been a stunning amount against me.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, there's been two million dollars spent mostly ten months

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Speaker 9: before the race against me. There's been a million dollars

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Speaker 9: spent for me. I've spent half a million dollars on

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Speaker 9: TV and ads from my own campaign funds. But I've

767
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Speaker 9: got two million dollars in the bank. Every time Donald

768
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Speaker 9: Trump tweets against me, I raise another eighty thousand dollars

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Speaker 9: on average, and those are people mostly who support Trump.

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Speaker 3: Well that one of the billionaires against you singer stands

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Speaker 3: to make billions from the Venezuela invasion, so he can

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Speaker 3: carve off a little piece for that.

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Speaker 10: It's just a return on investment for him.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he bought Sitgo, which was the nationalized venezuela

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Speaker 9: and oil company that sells gasoline in the United States.

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Speaker 9: He bought them for pennies on the dollar in a

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Speaker 9: forced auction sale of them, even though there was a

778
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Speaker 9: higher bidder. So that's kind of interesting. Yeah, and he

779
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Speaker 9: does he goes and buys bad debt and bad hard

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Speaker 9: luck cases and then.

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Speaker 10: Uses the government, uses the government to force to compel

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Speaker 10: other governments to pay the loans or to make him whole.

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Speaker 10: And that's what's happened here. And they're not even hiding it.

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Speaker 3: Did this with Argentina, he did it with Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to do it with Fanny and Freddy or

786
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Speaker 3: was trying to do with.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the White House is not even hiding it. There's

788
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Speaker 9: you know, we've been gaslet this whole time.

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Speaker 10: It started out.

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Speaker 9: Oh, it's about fentanyl and fentanyls, a weapon of mass

791
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Speaker 9: destruction and.

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Speaker 10: We're just blowing up the boats.

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Speaker 9: And then oh, actually they don't send us fentanyl, they

794
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Speaker 9: send us cocaine. All right, well, but at least we're

795
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Speaker 9: just blowing up boats. We're not going on the mainland.

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 9: Actually, it's about the oil, because these are narco terrorists

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Speaker 9: and this is the most preposterous thing that they get

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Speaker 9: away with.

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Speaker 10: It's saying that the oil funds the drug trade.

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Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure if there's one industry that doesn't need

802
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Speaker 9: or receive subsidies, it's cocaine.

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Speaker 8: I think they're doing okay.

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Speaker 10: I think they're doing just fine.

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Speaker 7: There's maybe well help from the DEA.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the CIA might help finance some of it every

807
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Speaker 9: now and then, but they don't need oil money to

808
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Speaker 9: sell cocaine.

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Speaker 10: But that's how they tried to get to the oil.

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Speaker 9: But now, I mean give them credit for committing candor,

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Speaker 9: which is it's usually a crime up here to commit candor.

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Speaker 9: But uh, the president is committing it. He's admitting this

813
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Speaker 9: was an attack, not an arrest, and he's saying we're

814
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Speaker 9: taking their oil and I'll take as much of it

815
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Speaker 9: as I want, and I'll sell it for any price

816
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Speaker 9: I want. And he will eventually he's going to make

817
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Speaker 9: his big donors hole like Paul Singer who bought the

818
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Speaker 9: troubled asset known as Sicco.

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Speaker 7: Let's end on this newsy bit.

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Speaker 6: Here we have Mike Johnson saying yesterday we don't have

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Speaker 6: to roll the full clip, but he said he was

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Speaker 6: asked by a cnnsman Raju about the Clinton's announcing. I

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Speaker 6: don't think he has an airpiece. The congresson doesn't have

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Speaker 6: an airpuse.

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Speaker 10: So that's okay, I can read lips.

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Speaker 9: It.

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Speaker 6: Well, he knows what he said, right, Okay, Well, let's

828
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Speaker 6: go ahead.

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Speaker 7: We'll roll F one the subpoena today.

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Speaker 10: One are you going to hold them a contempt?

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Speaker 4: Two?

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Speaker 3: Should Recycony also pursued Trump to get testimony from him

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Speaker 3: with as much seal.

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Speaker 11: Why would why would they need the president Trump? Trump

835
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Speaker 11: has opened unending press conferencers on a daily basis. Anybody

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Speaker 11: can ask give anything, and he's addressed this issue at nausea.

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Speaker 8: I'm your IRF.

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Speaker 11: The Clintons have not and uh and I think it's

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Speaker 11: a defiance of Congress for them to defy the screena.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think by definition to sisim to Congress.

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Speaker 8: And we'll have to see how they're pison.

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Speaker 6: So Mike Johnson, obviously an attorney there, he said it

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Speaker 6: was by definition contempt of Congress what he saw from

844
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Speaker 6: the Clintons. We can put the next element up on

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Speaker 6: the screen. This is, I'm sure you saw, Congressman, the

846
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Speaker 6: letter that the Clintons sent to Chairman James Comer yesterday

847
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Speaker 6: saying they will not comply with the Epstein subpoena. And man,

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Speaker 6: this is getting into a position where you could see

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Speaker 6: what happened to Steve Bannon potentially happened to the Clintons.

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Speaker 7: Congressman, would you.

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Speaker 6: Support the Clintons being prosecuted for contempt of Congress?

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Speaker 9: Well, what they should do is they should just come

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Speaker 9: to Congress and do what they all do and plead

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Speaker 9: the fifth right you can do that, be done and leave.

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Speaker 9: Of course you'll be asked multiple questions, will be somewhat embarrassing,

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Speaker 9: and then you leave. That would keep them out of jail. Yeah, you,

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Speaker 9: I mean, just as somebody, whether I was a Republican

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Speaker 9: or not, if they are compelled by subpoena to come

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Speaker 9: to Congress and they don't show up, there should be

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Speaker 9: ramifications and they should be held in contempt. But this

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Speaker 9: is the wrong way to get at the truth for

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Speaker 9: these victims. Right, this is theater, this is high theater.

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Speaker 9: If Clinton is guilty, it'll be in the draft indictments

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Speaker 9: that the DOJ possesses and haven't released. If Clinton is guilty,

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Speaker 9: it'll be in the three h two forms that the

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Speaker 9: FBI filled out after they interviewed Clinton's victims. Okay, that's

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Speaker 9: all in the files if there's any evidence of it.

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Speaker 9: And so if they want to get at the Clinton,

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Speaker 9: just released the files. I think the problem is they

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Speaker 9: want to have a double standard. There are billionaires in

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Speaker 9: there they want to protect as well, and so you

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Speaker 9: know they're over redacting. Just release the files. We don't

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Speaker 9: even really need him to show up to know that

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Speaker 9: he's guilty. If we've got a million documents, which translate

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Speaker 9: into four million pages of evidence, well let.

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Speaker 10: Us have a look at that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we can post Hillary's like entire letter down

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Speaker 3: in the description so that people can read their full defense,

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Speaker 3: because I can't really offer a very strong defense because

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Speaker 3: Steve Bannon was issued a lawful subpoena, he rejected it

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Speaker 3: on principle, and he went to jail defending the principle,

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Speaker 3: and then when I guess he guess he got thirty

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Speaker 3: or sixty days or whatever he got, and then it

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Speaker 3: was over, like.

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Speaker 7: You never have an air hole.

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Speaker 3: We have, but we have subpoenas, like the Congress has

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Speaker 3: the subpoena power and you got to come in. That's

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Speaker 3: what I don't understand why they won't just come in

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Speaker 3: and do the fifth a mement thing like that's that's

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Speaker 3: an option, Like, hey.

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Speaker 10: It might make Rice might make a point.

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Speaker 9: They're thumbing their news at the law, they're thumbing their

893
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Speaker 9: news at Congress. There need to be ramifications. They should

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Speaker 9: be arrested if they won't show up. I think as

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Speaker 9: soon as you get to the point of arrest, they

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Speaker 9: would probably say, oh, actually, just kidding, we found some

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Speaker 9: time on our calendar. We'll drop by and you know,

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Speaker 9: typically what they'll do is try to dictate the terms

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Speaker 9: of their appearance.

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Speaker 8: So this is they're not refusing it.

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Speaker 10: Then they're negotiating the I think this is the beginning

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Speaker 10: of a negotiation. But you know, this is one of

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Speaker 10: the criticists.

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Speaker 8: As long as they make it past January of next year, right.

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Speaker 9: Exactly, they could they could outlast this if the Congress

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Speaker 9: changes hands, because that subpoena would expire on January third

907
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Speaker 9: of next year, which is when the new Congress starts.

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Speaker 10: But again it's it's all theater. Just release the day

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Speaker 10: Gone files.

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Speaker 3: That's what that's interesting to hear it from from your

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Speaker 3: perspective to say, like, you know, because you're on the

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Speaker 3: opposite party of rast, they should testify it. But right

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Speaker 3: if you're actually interested in light and transparency, you're not

914
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Speaker 3: going to get it from no just having a dog

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Speaker 3: and pony show with Bill and Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 9: They'll just show up and plead the fifth and this.

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Speaker 9: But this is one of the criticisms of Pam Bondy.

918
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Speaker 9: Conservatives are getting frustrated with her. There have been no arrests.

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Speaker 10: There have been no Epstein files arrests.

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Speaker 9: Do you remember with one of the tools, one of

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Speaker 9: the flares they sent up to try and distract from

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Speaker 9: my bill and maybe to justify extra redactions, she said, Oh,

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Speaker 9: we're opening the Epstein cases again. We've found new information

924
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Speaker 9: to justify, you know, indictments and investigations.

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Speaker 10: We haven't heard anything about that.

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Speaker 9: My colleague from Kentucky in the Senate Senator and Paul

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Speaker 9: has referred Fauci for you know, let him have a

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Speaker 9: dang cord, but he wants Fauci, you know, brought to justice.

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Speaker 9: She's not doing anything there. It's not that she's being

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Speaker 9: two partisan, she's just not really doing anything.

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Speaker 6: Well, this is I mean, sometimes we'll have to do

932
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Speaker 6: a whole conversation about Maha because if people haven't watched

933
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Speaker 6: a documentary about Congressman Massy living off the grid on

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Speaker 6: his own house and the way that you've devised this brilliant,

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Speaker 6: ingenious system, they have to.

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Speaker 7: Check that out. Also, check out the Swamp documentary. That's

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Speaker 7: another good one. Yeah, we should get out there. So Congressman,

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Speaker 7: thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 9: I'm glad to discover you're in DC, just minutes away

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Speaker 9: from my office.

942
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Speaker 10: I got to come back.

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Speaker 6: We would love that, all right, and everyone, thank you

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Speaker 6: so much for tuning in to today's edition of Breaking Points.

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Speaker 8: It's soon, Yeah, do that soon. Don't make a sell

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Speaker 8: out

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