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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily and Badi here.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to episode two and twenty nine of Hurdle,

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Speaker 3: a whileless focus podcast where connect with everyone from your

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Speaker 3: highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. We all

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Speaker 3: the way. For today's episode, I am chatting with WNBA

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Speaker 2: There's no two ways about it. I walked away from

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Speaker 3: Plum how are you doing, Today? Kelsey i'm.

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Speaker 2: Good how are? You i'm so.

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Speaker 1: THAT i prepared my whole life for that, moment kind

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Speaker 3: medication to start working. Right so usually by the point

435
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 3: that someone, says, OKAY i need, help they're so desperate

436
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 3: to feel, different and then you have to go through

437
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 3: this time period where it's, like, oh but this isn't

438
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: just going to be the flip of a, switch and

439
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: that is so.

440
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 2: Frustrating oh my, gosh it's such a great. Point we

441
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: don't talk about that.

442
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: Enough it's like we think that it's like with, admil

443
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: like you take it and then twenty minutes later you feel,

444
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: better like your headache or backache or. Whatever that's WHAT

445
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: i THOUGHT i was getting AND i did not get,

446
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: That and, uh you're. RIGHT i also don't feel LIKE

447
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: i addressed the because you can address the, symptoms BUT

448
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: i wasn't addressing the root of the, problem dealing, with you,

449
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: know things in my childhood and emotional, stuff THINGS i

450
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: had never talked, about my, feelings expressing, Things and SO

451
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: i feel LIKE, i obviously now looking, back understand that

452
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: dealing And i'm not saying this is with, everyone this

453
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: is with, me but dealing with those root issues then

454
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: took away my.

455
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: Symptoms when did you first seek out.

456
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: THERAPY i first sought out therapy after being SO i

457
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: was kind of like talking to a, psychologist but it.

458
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: WASN'T i don't THINK i was fully bought. IN i

459
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: THINK i started talking to someone like on my own

460
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: with my own will and you, know wanting to get

461
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: better after maybe year two of being a pro. A,

462
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: wow so a while after you recognize that you were

463
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: dealing with all of these.

464
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: Issues, yeah it was a.

465
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: While it was a while BECAUSE i kind of always

466
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: came from the idea of, like if you want to

467
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: figure it, out fix it. YOURSELF i didn't like it

468
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: was a pride, thing but it was also like a shame,

469
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: thing LIKE I i can't be telling people That i'm

470
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: dealing with, This LIKE i have a wonderful life AND

471
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: i have no excuse to be feeling like, this and

472
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: so it's just very like. SHAME i didn't want to

473
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: be expressing that type of you, know What i'm going,

474
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: through How i'm.

475
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: Feeling, yeah and that's totally understandable that you felt that

476
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: way because you were performing so, Well so for you

477
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: not to want to show people what you felt as

478
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 3: at the time was a sign of. Weakness, again it's totally. Understandable.

479
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: YEAH i MEAN i look back now AND i really

480
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: WISH i had a better. Understanding and that's WHY i

481
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: feel like Now i'm so open with my journey BECAUSE

482
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: i didn't fully, Connect like it's been a lot of

483
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: growth in the mental health space in terms of like

484
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: talking about, things but still there's a, stigma especially in college,

485
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: sports about like just dealing with it getting to the next,

486
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: day and there's not a lot of like mental, HEALTHINESS

487
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: i would. Say and so for, ME i feel like

488
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: anytime NOW i can reach out and talk to kids

489
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: that were in my spot to just tell them, like,

490
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: listen this is. This you're not, alone you. KNOW i

491
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: THOUGHT i was completely, alone AND i think that's why people.

492
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: Don't share totally.

493
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 3: Totally so if you were to think back to that,

494
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 3: time maybe around the time that you got, drafted what

495
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 3: do you, recall like if you were to look at

496
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: yourself in the, mirror what did you see looking back at?

497
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: You a, shadow just, empty no, identity just didn't know

498
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: WHO i, was didn't know WHAT.

499
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: I liked outside of. Basketball very, uh just very. Sad

500
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: yeah that's.

501
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: Not, me that's not my, personality you, Know and SO

502
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: i just didn't even recognize WHO i. Was, yeah, again so.

503
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: Understandable so you, mentioned of, course like let me know

504
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: if you don't want to chat on, this but you

505
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: also mentioned having suicidal. Thoughts did you ever genuinely get

506
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: to a place where you almost acted on.

507
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: That, yeah there were multiple times WHERE i, was you,

508
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: know on bridges looking over on parking structures with my feet,

509
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: dangling AND i JUST i would sit there for hours

510
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: and just think, about like contemplating what would, happen you, know,

511
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: like AND i think the one of the biggest things

512
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: that stopped me would be, like how would my.

513
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: Family feel if this was over for?

514
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: Me you? Know and SO i think that that always

515
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: was a big. Thing and then the other thing that

516
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: really always brought me back was feeling like there has

517
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: to be more AND i can't not experience it Before

518
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: i'm my time is, up you, know like there's got

519
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: to be. More and SO i felt like in those,

520
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: moments those were the two biggest thoughts that always hit,

521
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: me but definitely moments WHERE i contemplated many.

522
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: Times, yeah, yeah and in that thought process there's got

523
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: to be. More how did you come back to that

524
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: resounding thought on the night of the draft WHEN i

525
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 3: know that it was anything but what you expected it to.

526
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: BE i feel, like for.

527
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: ME I i, Mean i'm gonna be, honest from the

528
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: draft UNTIL i finally felt relief was.

529
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: Three four.

530
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: YEARS I, mean it wasn't like like you, said magic,

531
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: switch AND i was. BACK i honestly think tearing my

532
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: achilles was one of the biggest. BLESSINGS i still tell

533
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: people that to this day that happened to me BECAUSE

534
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: i was able, to like for the first time.

535
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: In my, life sit down and like completely.

536
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: Reset you, know when you tear your, achilles you're out

537
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: of basketball for at least eight, months like at, least

538
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: So i'm, like what else AM i gonna? Do LIKE

539
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: i need to like reidentify what's going on, SPIRITUALLY i

540
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: needed to connect better With. God AND i just felt

541
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: like it was the best reset that could have happened to.

542
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: Me so another really introest back to have our perspective

543
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: moment Where i'm sure at the time it was as

544
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: though basketball was the thing that you quote unquote did.

545
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: Well it's so.

546
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i tore my, achilles and OBVIOUSLY i was really

547
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: upset because it, hurt AND i knew that it's a

548
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: serious injury and you're gonna be out for a. While

549
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: BUT i pretty much after that felt. Relief i'm, Like,

550
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: okay no one's expecting me to do anything right. NOW

551
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: i have all this time to like find myself and just.

552
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: Re set my.

553
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: LIFE i felt like my life was going in a

554
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: completely different trajectory than WHAT i wanted it to, go

555
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: and it was like an opportunity to just. Reset And

556
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: i'm so grateful for those like life changing, months life changing.

557
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: Months i'm not the same. Person i'm not the same,

558
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Partner i'm not the same, daughter, friend teammate THAT i

559
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: was Pre, achilles and that was because of the TIME

560
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: i got to really look inside and dig deep and

561
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: figure out WHO i was going to.

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Speaker 3: do something that you hear often about individuals who go

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Speaker 3: they don't have a lot of recollection or memory from that.

611
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: Time do you feel like that holds true for? You

612
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: from those two three four years after getting drafted until

613
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: this pit stop in twenty twenty.

614
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: One even to this, Day i'll have people come up to, Me,

615
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: hey do you REMEMBER i.

616
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: Really couldn't tell.

617
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: YOU i mean like obviously, big bigger, events and like

618
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: WHERE i was in the world because you, KNOW i

619
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: don't know if you, KNOW wnba we play six months

620
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: in the w and then we go play In. Europe

621
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: so out of those like three and a half, YEARS

622
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: i was In. Turkey So i'm already isolated away from my,

623
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: family dealing with depression like heavy, stuff and so those

624
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: years over. THERE i you're, RIGHT i feel LIKE i

625
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: blacked them.

626
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Out, YEAH i MEAN i can.

627
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: TOTALLY i can totally RELATE i went. Through just WHEN

628
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: i think back to moments of my childhood and even

629
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: like early, college people will say things to me AND

630
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: i just have no. Recollection and that's why to this,

631
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: day and i'd be curious to know if you have

632
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: one as. WELL i have such an active journaling practice.

633
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i never want to experience that. Again THAT'S i,

634
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: mean that's so.

635
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: GREAT i write in my journal every day, now but

636
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: back THEN i didn't have any of those. TOOLS i

637
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: don't know about, you BUT i was. Lost so, yeah you're.

638
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: RIGHT i don't remember anything from those. Times AND i

639
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 1: don't know if that's like a coping mechanism that the brain,

640
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: does so like totally survival or get us. Out but,

641
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: YEAH i look back on those years and they just

642
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: Are they're just blanks to, me blanks.

643
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: Blanks so you talked a lot about finding yourself after

644
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 3: The achilles. Injury, again that was In june twenty. Twenty

645
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: what does finding yourself look? Like what did you start to? Discover?

646
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: WELL i think the the first thing and most important

647
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: thing was my relationship With. God you, know, SPIRITUALLY i

648
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: felt so. DRAINED i didn't feel LIKE i was producing

649
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: any joy AND i.

650
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: So for, ME.

651
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: I knew that my value has got to be outside of,

652
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: basketball and it's got to be more And i'm good

653
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: enough regardless of my. Performance and SO i think figuring

654
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: that was number, one and then number two figuring, Out, okay,

655
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: BASKETBALL i can't do that every day all, day AND

656
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: i don't want to, be you, know the person that's

657
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: not well rounded or doesn't have any hobbies outside of.

658
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: Basketball SO i feel like tapping in more with my,

659
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: relationships like in my life my friends were. Big, definitely

660
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: like spending more time with my, family getting, outdoors being more,

661
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: adventurous trying new types of. FOODS i, MEAN i was

662
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: just pretty much opening up myself to, like, yes let's do,

663
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: it let's try experiences and stuff like. That so those

664
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: were all really big things THAT i started to, like

665
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: really just be. PRESIDENT i don't THINK i was present.

666
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: Before as you, know being present is like life changing

667
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: in certain. Moments when you're, present you can enjoy something

668
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: to the. Fullest AND i had never done that before

669
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: up until that.

670
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: Time you played in the twenty Twenty olympics and your gold,

671
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: medalist would you say that you were present for?

672
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: THAT i was so present for.

673
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: That that was, why to this, day it was one

674
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: of the most amazing Experiences i've ever had because That

675
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: achilles injury and then coming back and then being able

676
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: to play and then win it for your. COUNTRY i

677
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: was so proud of myself for that, journey you, Know

678
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: AND i know that it wasn't about the, Gold LIKE

679
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: i was proud THAT i was present playing and, YEAH

680
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: i happened to, win but it Wasn't that wasn't like

681
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: the REASON i was, proud if that makes any. Sense so,

682
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: yeah that it was an amazing, experience life changing for.

683
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: Sure chat us through the other aspects of navigating. Injury

684
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: so many people listening to this episode right now have

685
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: certainly been on the bench on the injured list for

686
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: you and that, Rehab how could you focus on letting

687
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: go of the things that you couldn't.

688
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: Control that's such a good.

689
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: Question WHAT i didn't realize in My achilles rehab process

690
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: was how many people are hurt or get.

691
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: Hurt you.

692
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: KNOW i think that we think injury is like. Sports

693
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: that's not. True that's AND i didn't know that because

694
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: it was my first time having a serious. INJURY i

695
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: had so many people reach out to me on social

696
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: media and ask me about advice and, questions and then

697
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: also thank me WHEN i would talk about WHAT i

698
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: was dealing with on a day to day. BASIS i

699
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing in rehab THAT i try to

700
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: tell people is that every day is a new, day

701
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: and you have a. Choice when you get, up you

702
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: can decide to even if it's like a little bit of.

703
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Progress you can decide to be a, positive affirmation's joyous

704
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: person and take steps, forward or you can play victim and.

705
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: Feel sorry for.

706
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Yourself and if you pick the second, ONE i promise

707
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: you it's only going to take you longer to come.

708
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Back SO i feel like people THAT i, tell regardless

709
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: of what they're, rehabbing make a conscious decision through your

710
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: process and then keep yourself accountable every day and have

711
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: people around you keep you, accountable to approach it with

712
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: a positive mindset and be gracious to yourself because it's

713
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: every day is not going to feel like you, one

714
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: but it's about you getting up and keep going and

715
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: having that attitude that's going.

716
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: To get you.

717
00:38:53,000 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 3: Through it's especially beautiful to hear these takeaways from you,

718
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 3: know specific to that victim, mindset because it is super

719
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: clear that for so many years you lingered in the victim.

720
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: Mindset do you have any other takeaways from your experience

721
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: of shifting out of that to a place of power

722
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: that you can.

723
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: Offer, wow that's so good replacing that mindset with. You

724
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: and we talk about, joy but the. Gratitude SO i feel,

725
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: like you, know every DAY i get up AND i

726
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: write down ten Things i'm grateful, for AND i feel

727
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: like that starts my day with the with the mindset of, opportunity, gratitude,

728
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: joy and that. Translates we all know people that when

729
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: they walk in a, room they give. Energy you want

730
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: to be an energy. Giver and SO i realized that

731
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: that starts with me and HOW i conduct myself BEFORE

732
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: i walk outside and, so AND i try to be

733
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: super creative with my gratitude, stuff like every day can't

734
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: be the same ten, things.

735
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: You know WHAT i, mean give us an.

736
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: Example, oh, shoot, okay, Today i'm grateful for it stopped,

737
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: raining so it was it was pouring down last, night

738
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: so it's a beautiful day. Outside i'm grateful THAT i

739
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to go work. OUT i know, that you,

740
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: know with the, pandemic we never thought we couldn't go places,

741
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: before you, Know so that's, Like i'm GRATEFUL i get

742
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 1: the opportunity to work. Out i'm grateful for this hot

743
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: shower in the. Morning i'm grateful FOR i get to

744
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: see a couple of my teammates later. Today i'm grateful

745
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: for THAT i get to rehab, with you, know professionals

746
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: Like pete that are high level and can help. Me

747
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: i'm grateful for, breakfast just LIKE i, mean, shoot anything

748
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: like any you could put. Anything BUT i think that

749
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: it makes it so much like it's just so much

750
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: more present about the things that you never really noticed.

751
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 3: Before and What i'm hearing you say is that these

752
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: items on the gratitude list don't need to be, large,

753
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: right it can be small.

754
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: Stuff oh my.

755
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: Gosh, yeah Like i'm thankful THAT i get to do

756
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: this with you, Today Like i'm thankful For Trader joe's sparkling.

757
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: WATER i don't even feel like these DAYS i write.

758
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: Down SOMETIMES i write down big, things BUT i try.

759
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: To make them just very.

760
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: Like things you barely would think, about you know WHAT i,

761
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: Mean and that to, me you just appreciate those, things

762
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: and that's what makes up a great.

763
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: Day it's truly, beautiful you, said and spoke so fondly

764
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: about your experience at The. Olympics but if you think

765
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: back to that, time and we're talking about coming out

766
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: of the, fog so to, speak do you have a

767
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: recollection or a memory of a specific time where you

768
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: noticed that you were, changing that you were shifting into

769
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: this new. Mindset, ooh that's a great.

770
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: Question.

771
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: YES i remember in My achilles, REHAB i was cleared to.

772
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: WALK i was so excited to, walk LIKE i never

773
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: thought EVER i would be just happy to just. WALK

774
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: i know it sounds like like just, remedial you, know

775
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: BUT i so REMEMBER i was walking and that they're

776
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: filming me so that they can have me look at

777
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: it and See because you want it to be, aligned you,

778
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: know like your steps and my pt guy he's pretty,

779
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: funny his name Is. Bobby he was, like you walk

780
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: like in a. Orangutang AND i was laughing because like he's.

781
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: Right AND i could have taken that as like super, like,

782
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: uh LIKE i don't walk.

783
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: Right WHATEVER i was.

784
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: HYPED i was, like this is the best o rangutang

785
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: walk you've ever, seen you, Know AND i think in

786
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: that MOMENT i, Realized i'm, like, wow that's. GROWTH i

787
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: didn't even think about taking that as a, negative you.

788
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: KNOW i took that as like a just something that

789
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: made my, day to be, honest and so that was

790
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: WHEN i think that shift was, like, oh this work

791
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: That i've been putting in is It's we're getting.

792
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: Somewhere, yeah growth will always be, challenging but when you

793
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: can find the little silver linings and see it in.

794
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: Action LIKE i had a really hard day a couple

795
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: of weeks, back and thing THAT i do as someone

796
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: who lost a lot of weight back in, college was

797
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: THAT i still When i'm going through something, hard, LIKE

798
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: i always reach for. Food AND i had this moment

799
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: WHERE i decided THAT i wasn't going to walk to

800
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: like The canoli spot THAT i love to go. To

801
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: BUT i like saw this other store that was selling

802
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: this ring THAT i had been targeted for On, instagram.

803
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: AND i went in AND i was, like fuck, It

804
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: i'm going to buy this.

805
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: Ring and now Like i'm wearing it right, now AND

806
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: i look down AND i think about. That that's, growth,

807
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: Right like growth is making the decision to do something

808
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: for you that feels. Good knowing how you'll feel later

809
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: because of that.

810
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: Action that's huge and you having the awareness to see

811
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: that in that moment is just that's growth.

812
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: Too, oh it's growth.

813
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: Too so now twenty twenty, one you come off the,

814
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: bench your back is doing up. Things, finally how thing

815
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: let's call it a career revamp. Season now that you're

816
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: present in your body and in your. Power how did

817
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: that really feel for?

818
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: You you, Know it's so funny BECAUSE i was when

819
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: they told me that they wanted me to come off the.

820
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: BENCH i was.

821
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: Pissed, HERE i, AM i just want to gold. Medal

822
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: you want me to come off the. Bench and SO

823
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: i remember that was a that was another growth moment

824
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: THAT i was, Like, OKAY i can either complain about

825
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: this OR i can just have the best bench season

826
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: that we've ever had in the.

827
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: League why would you for those that may not, understand

828
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: why would that be something that you'd complain.

829
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: About, SO i, mean for, basketball.

830
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: It, depends but ninety percent of the, time your best

831
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: players are, starting right And i'm competitive, obviously AND i

832
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: was one of the best five players on our, team

833
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: and for the sake of the, team it was better

834
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: for me to come off the bench and bring like,

835
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: energy scoring that type of stuff then for me to

836
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: start with the unit that we. Had and so it

837
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: was kind of like a, sacrifice like they were, gonna,

838
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: like we're gonna Bring kelsey off the, bench and this

839
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: is what's best for the. Team was it best for me?

840
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: INDIVIDUALLY i don't, know BUT i knew in that moment

841
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: it was an opportunity to grow AND i learned a.

842
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: TON i remember thinking thinking, Like, Okay i've never come

843
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: off the bench, before and you, know you don't have

844
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: passion for people that come off the bench that like

845
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: maybe make mistakes or or do something, wrong or you,

846
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: know whatever the case may. Be and SO i think

847
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: it gave me a great perspective THAT i had never.

848
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: Had and then coming into this, YEAR i, MEAN i

849
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: TOLD i made it clear by my. PLAY i was,

850
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: like there's no way you can bring me off the,

851
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: bench and they. Didn't but uh it Was it was

852
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: great BECAUSE i FINALLY i felt LIKE i had a

853
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: lot more compassion for a different perspective of a role

854
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: THAT i had never played.

855
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: Before, yeah another role that you've never played. Before speaking

856
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: of kind of having a better understanding of, YOURSELF i

857
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: KNOW i asked you at the time back in, college

858
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: when you looked in the.

859
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: Mirror what you.

860
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: Saw, now when you look in the, mirror who is

861
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 3: it that you see looking back at?

862
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: You who are?

863
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: You aside from Being Kelsey plum The aces basketball, PLAYER.

864
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: I look AND i see someone that is a very

865
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: unfinished product in the best. WAY i feel like that

866
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: growth mindset that we've kind of talked about on that

867
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: awareness is something That i'm continuing to grow in every,

868
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: day AND i feel like with my, journey definitely passing

869
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: that along right so someone else can maybe not have

870
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: to go through as much AS i went. Through WHEN

871
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: i look in the, Mirror i'm proud BECAUSE i don't

872
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: think about my value or identity in.

873
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: BASKETBALL i just.

874
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: Don't and that's that's to, me is like the greatest

875
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: accomplishment That i've ever, had AND i know for, me

876
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: like my focus these days is figuring out how figuring

877
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: out HOW i can impact, others figuring out HOW i

878
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: can use my story and use my journey to help,

879
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: people not just in, basketball but in. Life i'm really passionate,

880
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: about you, know giving back and figuring out ways THAT

881
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: i can, help especially like young girls having that kind

882
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: of mentorship THAT i maybe didn't. Have so those are

883
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: the things That I'M i got cooking up in the off, season,

884
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: obviously along with training and stuff like. That but that's

885
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: that's my.

886
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: FOCUS i love what you're saying here about making it

887
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: your personal mission to give back and also to do

888
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: whatever it is within your power to help, others specifically.

889
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: Women not feel how you.

890
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: Felt so provided the, platform what do you say to the,

891
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: woman the young woman that is dealing with so many

892
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: of those thoughts that you struggled with back in the, DAY.

893
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: I would, say first things, first take a deep. Breath

894
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: didn't even know how to breathe back, then you, know

895
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: take a deep, breath AND i would, say you got

896
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: to give yourself from grace whatever you're going, through you

897
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: got to give yourself. GRACE i don't know HOW i

898
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: got through it without it, before you, Know so those

899
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: two things right off the. Bat the other thing is

900
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: too IS i feel like surrounding yourself with people that

901
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: are uplifting and that can help you in your journey

902
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: is more important THAN i ever. Imagined you need to

903
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: hear a consistent, basis not just within yourself your self positive,

904
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: talk but around you that you're doing. Great and it's

905
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: not like the fake rah rah, Raw it's. Real you,

906
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: know we need brothers and sisters like lifting us. Up

907
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: and SO i feel like for me telling young girls

908
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: like AND i can be that resource for, them but

909
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: also having people around them that are bringing those you,

910
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: know positive consistent reminders of that they're they're, beautiful they're,

911
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: confident they're. Great whatever they want to, do they can do.

912
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: It SO i think those things off the bat are

913
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: big gaping holes that we can help feel just, initially

914
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: and then obviously there's a lot, more but those things

915
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: to me stand.

916
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: OUT i love what you said earlier as well about

917
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 3: knowing that how you walk into a room your energy,

918
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: matters and what you just said touching on the people

919
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: that you surround yourself with their energy also.

920
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: Matters their energy impacts.

921
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: You for someone who may feel as though they're kind

922
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: of stuck in a situation where that energy is just not,

923
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: right how does someone break that? Cycle how does someone

924
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: make a shift to seek something that may be better

925
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: serving for, Them that's a great, QUESTION i, think first and,

926
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: foremost having that awareness is.

927
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: Key also asking, yourself is this person helping me be?

928
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Better is this person helping me? Grow and we're Not

929
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: i'm not in the business of like, heisman like at

930
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: what place for you in my?

931
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: Life you know WHAT i? Mean BUT i just think.

932
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: That those questions are super important to ask, yourself you,

933
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: know and we can all like we we all know

934
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: like as, humans like you're you're giving me energy right, now,

935
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: RIGHT i can feel. It there are times when there

936
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: are people that take, energy and so just having those

937
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: understandings and awarenesses of, like, man why DO i leave

938
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: AND i feel?

939
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 3: Worse how do you feel when you leave? Someone is

940
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: the most important question to ask. Yourself and also not for,

941
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: nothing sometimes you kind of have to heisman you do.

942
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: You do to a point and there's A i think

943
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: there's a way to do.

944
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: That but but but, yeah, ABSOLUTELY i think That i've

945
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: definitely over time just separated myself from people that maybe

946
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about other people or tearing people.

947
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: Down or being negative or not helping me.

948
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: Grow and SO i think that that to me is like,

949
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: Huge like if you can weed out some of, that

950
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: you'd be. Amazing how like it kind of like oh,

951
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: okay like you, know and then obviously you bring people,

952
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: in BUT i think you got to get some of

953
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: that stuff out before you can bring some stuff.

954
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 3: In how does it feel for you now to be

955
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: in this place where you know you have this genuine

956
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: opportunity to help, others that your words have.

957
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 2: Weight i'm.

958
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: HUMBLED i wake up every, day wake up every, day

959
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 1: AND i Thank god for it BECAUSE i know that

960
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: it's a privilege to be able to speak to people

961
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: and to share a.

962
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: Journey you.

963
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: KNOW i think in the moments in these, JOURNEYS i

964
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: questioned a lot like, man why AM i going through?

965
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: This like like why am? Me and that victim?

966
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: Mentality, Right but NOW i THINK i look at it

967
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: more as, like, Man i'm so grateful THAT i got

968
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: to do this Because i've been molded into a better

969
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: woman for, it and LIKE i CAN i can really

970
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: help people and SO i feel LIKE i just feel,

971
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: humbled AND i make sure that when every ROOM i walk,

972
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: Into i'm bringing the. Energy i'll tell you, that LIKE,

973
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: i you will find you with. ENERGY i don't care

974
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: how TIRED i. AM i don't care Like i'm bringing

975
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: it BECAUSE i know that it's a lot bigger than.

976
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: Myself but let's be real for just a. Second, yeah

977
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: let's be.

978
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 3: Real there are gonna be days where you wake up

979
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: and you don't feel so shiny and so exuberant and

980
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 3: so ready to bring.

981
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: It so what do you do on those?

982
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: Days, Well i'll tell you one thing that's that. Happens

983
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: i'll tell you what, Though i'm not Gonna i'm not

984
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: going to take. Energy that's just like a. STANDARD i

985
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: also think, too that If i'm not focused on, myself

986
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: like selfishly like oh this is HOW i feel OR

987
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: i feel, Down i've learned that that selfish mentality of

988
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: like thinking about HOW i, feel when in, REALITY i

989
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: can be thinking about how other people, feel even if

990
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: it's one. Person it's Like, okay what CAN i do

991
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: to help so and so, today or like what CAN

992
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: i do? Too it DOESN'T i don't have, to you,

993
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: know be the sun for one hundred people. Today BUT

994
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: i feel LIKE i can bring. SOMETHING i can bring

995
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: SOMETHING i KNOW i, can And you're, right it's there

996
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: are certain days where you're just, LIKE i don't have it,

997
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: today And i'm not going to fake, it But i'm

998
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: definitely still going to figure out a way to make

999
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: an impact. Somehow how do you give back to? YOU

1000
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: i think it starts with. ME i can't give Unless

1001
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: i'm taking care of. Me and SO i think that

1002
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: kind of what we talked about, earlier of like those practices,

1003
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: JOURNALING i meditate every, DAY i, PRAY i do my gratitude.

1004
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: Practice having that awareness and that presence that all starts with.

1005
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Me and SO i feel Like i've learned that IF

1006
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: i don't have joy And i'm not bringing, that THEN

1007
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: i can't give.

1008
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: What gives you? Joy right?

1009
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: Now oh my, gosh so many, things my relationship With,

1010
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: god my, family my beautiful my beautiful, man.

1011
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: My, friends my, teammates.

1012
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: GOSH i FEEL i, MEAN i could go on and

1013
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: on about the things that bring me.

1014
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: Joy JUST i feel Like i'm.

1015
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: Floating that's so special in this off. Season what you

1016
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: got going?

1017
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: On oh, man where do you? START i actually you

1018
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: know it's. CRAZY i actually had shoulder. Surgery, nothing nothing's

1019
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: as intense as The, achilles but a little clean. Up

1020
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: So i've been rehabbing. That so any of you rehab,

1021
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: People i'm still in it with. You i'm doing. That

1022
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: we got some great things going on with Just hugh

1023
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: that would be coming, out you, know periodically Under. Armor

1024
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: i'm really excited we're going to be launching some new,

1025
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: stuff so be tuned for. That, also what we talked

1026
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: about earlier with making an impact with especially with young,

1027
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: Girls we're going to be hopefully launching some camps and

1028
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: different you know, activations hopefully locally In vegas as well

1029
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: as you, know around.

1030
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: The, states so look out for.

1031
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: That and then, also you, know working on trying to

1032
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: be the best player in the.

1033
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: World so a couple of, things you.

1034
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: Know.

1035
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: Just a couple of things BEFORE i let you, go

1036
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 3: just to dial it back for a, second BECAUSE i

1037
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: know you spoke about how difficult it was to be

1038
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 3: back in college and for so many people to look at,

1039
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: you like for your worth as a basketball. Player now

1040
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 3: you go, ONLINE i go to Your. Instagram you've got

1041
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: over six hundred thousand. Followers how do you navigate that

1042
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 3: space on a regular basis in a way that serves.

1043
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 2: You that's a great. Question i've had to set.

1044
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: BOUNDARIES i know that social media can be a great

1045
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: thing and it also can be something that really helps

1046
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: us kind of bring us, down you, know in a

1047
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: way of we don't mean to compare our lives to,

1048
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: people but we.

1049
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: Do you, know it's like.

1050
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: INEVITABLE i think THAT i don't touch my phone, obviously

1051
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: like IF i got to like call or text, someone

1052
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: it's a little bit. Different But i'm saying social, MEDIA

1053
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: i try not to touch my phone before noon in the, morning.

1054
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: And THEN i have my.

1055
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: Notifications off AND i try not to touch it an

1056
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: hour before.

1057
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: Bed so definitely setting.

1058
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: Those boundaries for, ME i feel like has been super

1059
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: helpful because it's like a healthy. Dose you got to

1060
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: see what's going. On they obviously want to connect and

1061
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: support people and also share what you have going, On

1062
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: but there's a limit to. THAT i would say that

1063
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: is number, one and then over. Two number two that

1064
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: is tough for a lot of people is. OVERSHARING i

1065
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: feel like for, me the value of having a little

1066
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: bit of privacy in my life is. Priceless and the

1067
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: older you get, Like i'm sure you, know like peace

1068
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: is something that is just it's worth more than. Anything

1069
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: SO i feel like having that peace of my personal

1070
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: life has been really really healthy for. Me SO i

1071
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: encourage kids, like, yeah, share but just is it at

1072
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: the sake of?

1073
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: Oversharing you? Know maybe just ask yourself some of those.

1074
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: Questions and maybe that's not just, kids it's, everyone but

1075
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: specifically like, college high, school that, age you don't got

1076
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: to overshare to be.

1077
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 3: Valued, Yeah and knowing that you feel that, WAY i

1078
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: feel even more grateful and thankful that you feel that

1079
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 3: sharing your story and what you've been through in terms

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Speaker 3: of your mental health is the.

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Speaker 2: Right share for.

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Speaker 3: YOU i think that is truly just the most beautiful

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Speaker 3: thing because you're at a place now in your journey

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Speaker 3: where talking about these things truly resonates and feels right

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Speaker 3: like in your chest to deepen your.

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Speaker 2: Soul it, does and it wasn't always that, way you.

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Speaker 1: Know AND i feel like the more Comfortable i've become

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Speaker 1: in my own, skin the MORE i, feel like you,

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Speaker 1: SAID i feel empowered to be able to, share and

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Speaker 1: it grateful for the opportunity to come on a platform

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Speaker 1: like this and. Share and SO i would, say you,

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Speaker 1: know for people that are going through, it when you

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Speaker 1: feel like you're ready to share your story is very

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Speaker 1: powerful and you really don't know who's listening and who

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Speaker 1: you can help that can connect to. You so just

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Speaker 1: know that you're not, alone and just know that your

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Speaker 1: story matters and it needs to be.

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Speaker 3: Heard you, KNOW i wind down AND i feel like

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Speaker 3: you've offered a lot of really great advice so, far

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Speaker 3: but in this, context maybe it'll shift just a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit right, now you have the opportunity to offer yourself

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Speaker 3: a piece of, advice let's, say sitting on the bridge

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Speaker 3: or the parking structure with your legs dangling over the,

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Speaker 3: edge knowing what you? Know, now what do you tell

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Speaker 3: yourself at that hurdle? MOMENT i just got the chills

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Speaker 3: when you said that there's so much. More, please, like baby,

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Speaker 3: girl please don't give. Up there's so much, more and

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Speaker 3: you're worth. It don't listen to that voice in your

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Speaker 3: head that tells you you're.

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Speaker 2: Not you're worth.

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Speaker 3: It so, beautiful so, Beautiful Kelsey, plumb thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for your time. Today how do the hurdlers follow

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Speaker 3: along with? You how do they keep up with? You

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Speaker 3: give me your.

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Speaker 1: Info, okay let's, see since we just talked about not

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Speaker 1: being on social.

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Speaker 2: Media, No i'm.

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Speaker 1: Joking i'm On, Instagram Kelsey. Plum i'm On, Twitter Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: Plum i'm on, TikTok Which i'm still trying to figure

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Speaker 1: Out Kelsey. Plum so, anyways, uh you find. Me i'm

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Speaker 1: very honest and very open about my. Journey ask me.

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Speaker 1: Anything oh, so, yeah thanks for tuning, In.

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Speaker 3: Kelsey don't mislead the. Hurdlers you're On. Instagram It's Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: Plum Ten, okay But i'm saying you type in the,

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Speaker 2: name it'll come. Up see what she's trying to. Do

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Speaker 2: she's trying to hold up her. Boundaries, amazing. Amazing i'm over.

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Speaker 3: At Emily body and At Hurdle Podcast Another Hurdle. Conquered

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Speaker 3: catch you guys next.

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Speaker 1: Time