Speaker 1: This he is talking Cowboys screaming live on Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: Your hosts, Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broadens, Taylor Stern and Rob
Speaker 1: Phillips welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. Of course,
Speaker 1: it is a Tuesday here at the Star in Frisco,
Speaker 1: a Saturday for the or is it a Friday here? Friday?
Speaker 1: See all my days are off Friday here for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys as they get ready to play on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Now we have to break some news. Jason Witten is
Speaker 1: now the head coach of the University of Tack. Just kidding,
Speaker 1: making sure everyone is listening and paying attention because we
Speaker 1: will have some real news here. But Mickey's shaking his
Speaker 1: head because, of course, Witten was asked about five minutes
Speaker 1: worth of questions if he would be leaving the team
Speaker 1: to go coach the balls. Where did that story break
Speaker 1: or what's his name? Blay Travis Bay Travis Travis great
Speaker 1: country Western performer yep so and what media venue did
Speaker 1: he use to break that story? He has a website
Speaker 1: of his own, he does. Somebody called him out for
Speaker 1: like using his phone as a camera and stan Vrette.
Speaker 1: Stan Verrette basically called him out for for his way
Speaker 1: of getting out his information. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: two years from now, two years from now, where do
Speaker 1: you go for that job? It's a lot of work.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do think he wants to get
Speaker 1: into coaching. Great coach. Yeah, don't you think high school? Nah?
Speaker 1: His grandfather. I just think, you know what I think, Witten.
Speaker 1: I don't see Witten shooting for anything other than the moon.
Speaker 1: I really don't our high school hours coaching any different
Speaker 1: than college or pro. You don't have to recruit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: recruiting is Yeah. He works because he's made so much money.
Speaker 1: If you're really not good, your season's over about the
Speaker 1: middle of November, you really want to work all those
Speaker 1: hours when you've made the money he's made when he retired,
Speaker 1: I think he's still going. I think I think this
Speaker 1: is a talk for another day, but I think he does.
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, there's been some strange stuff this season,
Speaker 1: many seasons around here. That was about the weirdest. If
Speaker 1: I would have said two years ago, sitting right here
Speaker 1: and said, hey, guys, two years from now, Tony Romo
Speaker 1: will be in the number one broadcast position with Jim
Speaker 1: Nance CBS. CBS. Would you have believed me and Jason
Speaker 1: Witten would be the head coach at Tennessee. Well that's
Speaker 1: not happening today, but well it was happening yesterday. Just
Speaker 1: the idea that mister iron Man had to sit there
Speaker 1: and say, no, I'm not going to leave the team
Speaker 1: tomorrow to go goa to my alma mater is just absurd.
Speaker 1: But you think two years from now he would give
Speaker 1: it a thought. Okay, here's I'm just asking. Here's the
Speaker 1: and you would hope he thinks about this. What's the
Speaker 1: most difficult thing to do to become a college head
Speaker 1: coach when you've never coached before? Time management, for sure,
Speaker 1: putting together a staff, Yeah, and that staff will save
Speaker 1: your butt. And he doesn't. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: has enough connections. I mean, he's he gonna get Tony
Speaker 1: rom would to come and be his quarterback coach. George
Speaker 1: Tigue is out there, or Colombo, maybe your offensive line coach. Sperrano.
Speaker 1: He loves Sperrano. We've already had discussions. I will be
Speaker 1: leaving to Knoxville to be there. So it's been bloomed
Speaker 1: to be his defensive line coach. Her West is from
Speaker 1: that area or West. Piece of staff together, Mick, I
Speaker 1: think you know what, actually, you know what you should do.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about the coaching part. Just get some big
Speaker 1: names to help recruit. Yeah, like get Evan Smith to
Speaker 1: walk into somebody's living Immant. Smith's son's already getting recruited
Speaker 1: by Georgia. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen I've seen him up
Speaker 1: close to personal Mickey Spagnola, quality control. Yeah, operation sid.
Speaker 1: He just tells no to everyone's ESPN. Nah, not this week,
Speaker 1: get away time working here. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: I don't I think I think getting a staff together
Speaker 1: would be the least of his problems. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: like he might get out coached. The thing about it is,
Speaker 1: though he could he could lean on. I'm sorry, Tam,
Speaker 1: I'm taking time away from your show. This was fun.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm I'm sitting there thinking though that
Speaker 1: he there's some guys that he can lean on who
Speaker 1: who wouldn't want to help Jason Witten try try to
Speaker 1: put together a staff. Jason Witton could call you up,
Speaker 1: could call up a Bill Belichick, could call up Phil Fulmer,
Speaker 1: who used to be a coach at Tennessee, could call
Speaker 1: up David. Yeah, he could call up David Cutcliff at
Speaker 1: Duke who turned down the job. You know he he
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys. I mean, he's a Tennessee guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's true. I mean, I'll say this coaching is
Speaker 1: in his blood. We talked about we talked about the
Speaker 1: quarterback that used to that used to win the nationale
Speaker 1: te Martin t. Martin's kind of turned into a successful
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I spoke to his brother Sean Witten for
Speaker 1: about an hour for a story I did in training camp.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to tell me yesterday you
Speaker 1: were tracking. No, No, I'm not tracking. I was loving
Speaker 1: where you're going with this. He's the head coach now
Speaker 1: at Elizabethan where they're from, and took over for their
Speaker 1: for their granddad, and like it's just what they grew
Speaker 1: up on. So yeah, when he's done, I can definitely
Speaker 1: see it integrity. Yeah, that's a great story. If they
Speaker 1: grew up on the John Wooden books and all the
Speaker 1: you know that their granddad taught him, So I could
Speaker 1: see it. But I mean it was just crazy yesterday
Speaker 1: that he had to answer questions about like, are you
Speaker 1: still committed to the Cowboys for the final five games
Speaker 1: of the season. Come on, final five games of the season.
Speaker 1: Way to think that there's no playoff? Cha, captain plus
Speaker 1: plus into January maybe, huh, I said the captain of
Speaker 1: the team. Yes see you guys, Well there is some
Speaker 1: real news here, guys. Of course, Jerry spoke this morning
Speaker 1: and had a very roundabout answer of Shawn Lee's status.
Speaker 1: I think you you posted it best, Yeah, he said. Uh,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be back soon. Don't know what
Speaker 1: soon is, but back soon, giants, I believe, not not Mickey.
Speaker 1: Mickey said this three games ago. It was gonna be
Speaker 1: hard for him to be back in twelve days and
Speaker 1: they just, you know, the way the schedule fell for him. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: that's what they're dealing with, you know. And he's not
Speaker 1: even out there going through stretch now, so uh, that
Speaker 1: doesn't bode well. At least the other guys that everybody
Speaker 1: but Sean and else were out there at least going
Speaker 1: through stretch. Durant wasn't out there either. Yeah, Durant with
Speaker 1: the concussions, and I don't think he's he's not getting
Speaker 1: back in time. They're just hoping there's the last practice
Speaker 1: of the week. Yeah, well I'm now jeez. And I
Speaker 1: wrote about him today as my matchup guy, Elsie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wrote about him as mine. I think he's got
Speaker 1: a chance. They're gonna wait because he's got two more days, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think their game. I think it's another one
Speaker 1: of those deals where they just kind of treating him
Speaker 1: like Tyron and say, let's get you to the game.
Speaker 1: But the question was asking a good one from Todd Archer.
Speaker 1: He's not a seven eight year pro. So can he
Speaker 1: miss all week of practice and play? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You want no? I want Lyle Collins if he can play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that Spyron Bell at right tackle
Speaker 1: for now. That's how they lined up when they did
Speaker 1: their little under the bar routine. Elsie's still young players
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. But if he has the experience like
Speaker 1: Byron Smith, could he sit out all week and then
Speaker 1: go on a positive note? You're mentioning that Zack Martin
Speaker 1: was out there, so yes, he was good to go?
Speaker 1: Rant was? I mean? Martin was out there, Hitchens was
Speaker 1: out there? Who else was questionable? That was limited. Switzer
Speaker 1: out there, Tyron was out there, yeah, switcher Switzer was
Speaker 1: out there on the practice report, yes, or ankle yeah,
Speaker 1: but I yeah, Durant's not gonna make it. I don't
Speaker 1: think it'd be interesting when we do these the inactives.
Speaker 1: I wonder if I could put Switzer on that inactive list. Well,
Speaker 1: you can't put Darren McFadden on there. Yeah, but no,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, you put Trey Williams. Trey Wayne absolutely. I know,
Speaker 1: I know you're, I know you're he's giving you some
Speaker 1: juice in the return game. But if he's nicked up, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what and if if it comes down
Speaker 1: to it, we're hearing about all these changes in the secondary,
Speaker 1: what's Jordan Lewis's role going to be? You know, Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis returned kicks at Michigan, was pretty good at it.
Speaker 1: If he's he had lined up at training camp a
Speaker 1: few times to do that as well. See that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just kind of wonder if if Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have a role at a prominent role,
Speaker 1: which I think he will, I just don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna start I don't think he's gonna be your nickel starter.
Speaker 1: Sound like they're going to really shake this thing up
Speaker 1: just in the secondary. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a different look secondary where these guys line up, It'll
Speaker 1: be okay that it's a different look. Yeah, can't keep
Speaker 1: doing the same. Let me ask you this though, Mickey
Speaker 1: and guys, I mean, if you would indulge me on this,
Speaker 1: what moves? Okay, if you had to take if you
Speaker 1: had to just the guy, how would you play your
Speaker 1: guys you have right now? How would you line them
Speaker 1: up right now? If you could in the secondary? I
Speaker 1: mean a Woozier starting at left corner. Okay, a Woozia
Speaker 1: starts the left corner for Mickey rob Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I want to think that's the only thing
Speaker 1: that makes sense right now. Yeah, okay, what about Scandrick
Speaker 1: in the slot? Does that do anything for you? Put
Speaker 1: him over there where he belongs on the right corner. Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with it. Who you heard me say
Speaker 1: that from training camp? These other guys were good enough.
Speaker 1: Let him do one job, not playing on the outside.
Speaker 1: And who's your slot corner? I just throw somebody in there. Well,
Speaker 1: you're you're covering a pretty good slot. See they're not
Speaker 1: beat that badly in the slot. It seems like, okay,
Speaker 1: your options, your options, and guys would be, would you
Speaker 1: put Anthony Brown in there? Would you feel comfortable putting
Speaker 1: him there? Brown? He's lost his job? Browner or Woods?
Speaker 1: Brown or Woods? Are Jordan Lewis or Jordan Lewis? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think at this point maybe Brown, give him a
Speaker 1: different type of role, let him prove himself a little
Speaker 1: bit where he's there. He just hasn't played a lot there. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even going back to college, the thought, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's not starting, then what's his role.
Speaker 1: Mickey was right about him though about the zone stuff.
Speaker 1: If you put him in the slot playing man, maybe
Speaker 1: you give him a chance. The thing you have to
Speaker 1: worry about is him playing hands handy guy, you know,
Speaker 1: and holding and stuff like that, and all these have
Speaker 1: been a big problem for him. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You're putting him in the slot where you're exposing him
Speaker 1: and have to run all over the field. But it's
Speaker 1: better than playing him that way than playing him off
Speaker 1: coverage in zone, which Mickey pointed out, Yes, to day
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be suits him very well. I just
Speaker 1: feel like this matchup though, with the types of receivers
Speaker 1: they have, the quick short area routes and the way
Speaker 1: they work in space. I'm thinking Crowder I might rather
Speaker 1: have Scandrick in the slot in this game and having
Speaker 1: to play both. But that's just me. Well, he brought
Speaker 1: up an interesting name, Woods. Would you want to put
Speaker 1: Woods over there? He's played some of it. He's played yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they played him down. Obviously, he's better playing
Speaker 1: down and covering that. That's the thing I think with him.
Speaker 1: Coverage has been not a problem. There's been some other thing.
Speaker 1: Tackling has not been great. Seeing some things has something
Speaker 1: great seeing things, And I think that's difficult for a
Speaker 1: young guy to play safety and anticipate what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Because he got caught peeking inside a couple of balls
Speaker 1: going over his head. Yeah, a couple different times. You know.
Speaker 1: Can't have that. Yeah, No, everybody's such in a hurry.
Speaker 1: Get Jeff Eath out of there. Yeah, we got to
Speaker 1: play these young guys. And then they go play and
Speaker 1: they get beat and it's like, why are we playing
Speaker 1: all these young guys? Why didn't we keep Bury Church
Speaker 1: and JJ Wilcox. Yeah, you know, it's like everything kind
Speaker 1: of just rotates on. Let me ask you this, see
Speaker 1: something new sometimes? Is Heath the liability or I mean
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that has nobody stepped up? Is Jeff
Speaker 1: Heath better as a rotational player special team's phenom? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about that and again I mean we we,
Speaker 1: you know, we we. That's the thing. Maybe me personally misevaluated.
Speaker 1: I mean last year he was just looking for a
Speaker 1: spot to start, and now it's like every all eggs
Speaker 1: in the basket. What about Byron Jones? Where does Byron
Speaker 1: Jones need to play? He needs to play to play
Speaker 1: back back er up? Where where does he miss more
Speaker 1: tack back up? He needs to play up? I agree
Speaker 1: with Mickey on that up he needs to be when
Speaker 1: they go die and put him up close to the
Speaker 1: line a scrimmage. I agree there because see the problems
Speaker 1: I have, Robin and just go ahead ahead. The problems
Speaker 1: I have when Byron Jones with tackling, it's not when
Speaker 1: he's at the line or near the line. It's when
Speaker 1: you get him in space coming forward that he that
Speaker 1: he has the problems. That's that's where I'm trying to
Speaker 1: play him in a spot where I feel like that
Speaker 1: he can maybe make plays. He again, everything underneath, he
Speaker 1: could tackle, He covered tight ends, just talked our way
Speaker 1: out of a single safety high position. Well, I just thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: who's if if we do everything we just said, who
Speaker 1: has a single safety high Woozier hurt him in my
Speaker 1: opinion this season because it's forced him to play closer
Speaker 1: to the line. To me, any better suited is more
Speaker 1: of a center field type guy, and he hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to do that this season. He's a little bit,
Speaker 1: but he's played up more than maybe they had envisioned
Speaker 1: for him. Well, Woozier just needed to be the left corner.
Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna get a chance this, mickey, You got
Speaker 1: it right, you get you're gonna see it. Get ready.
Speaker 1: But he that's the play should have been from the start.
Speaker 1: He's playing safety. He did never play safety in training camp.
Speaker 1: If you think back and look, he rarely ever liked
Speaker 1: I know that. But that's where they put him at
Speaker 1: one point before he heard his hamstring again. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: because they were looking for a spot to play him,
Speaker 1: to see where we can play him. But if you,
Speaker 1: if all things were equal, he would have won the
Speaker 1: left cornerbacks. But there you have it. I think the
Speaker 1: Scouts really loved Jordan Lewis. They did. They loved Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: Did you guys get a chance to hear last night's
Speaker 1: Cowboys Hour with Jordan Lewis and Orlando Scandrick. I missed that.
Speaker 1: I heard he got contentious. It was a little awkward.
Speaker 1: I mean, Scandrick is always a little bit awkward. He
Speaker 1: was throwing some bows at a young money Jeff Kavanaugh
Speaker 1: over there. What just jabs? Bows are arrows? Arrows? Well,
Speaker 1: he said he didn't know what he was talking about.
Speaker 1: He doesn't. Yeah, called him a bully and different things
Speaker 1: like I could call kavanall bully. Yeah, Scandrick being Scandrick,
Speaker 1: But Jordan Lewis was on there, and Jordan Lewis is
Speaker 1: a very shy guy, at least from the outside looking in. Obviously,
Speaker 1: guys are so much different in the locker room and
Speaker 1: around players and teammates, so bear with me that. But
Speaker 1: it was interesting to hear his perspective on different things,
Speaker 1: as far as like, okay, what he was asked to do?
Speaker 1: Because you know, Scandrick's over here, like, man, I didn't
Speaker 1: get a stern until I was a fifth or six
Speaker 1: year guy, and you you're out there, you know, and
Speaker 1: all the stuff, and Jordan Lewis just kind of like
Speaker 1: takes it with what it is. Yeah, and yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: talking about being at the program of Michigan and how
Speaker 1: that prepared him and absolutely very correctly identified he should
Speaker 1: have said. He should have said, yeah, Michigan, we no
Speaker 1: Boise State. Yeah. Yeah. See this, this to me is
Speaker 1: it's always the it's always the chip on the shoulder bit,
Speaker 1: arguing with the arguing with the guy that's interviewing with you,
Speaker 1: arguing with your teammate, you know, all this stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know that that that that act has worn very
Speaker 1: thin with me, very thin with me. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: Hey identify what he plays well Kansas City. I identify
Speaker 1: when he plays poorly. You can't give up plays. You're
Speaker 1: the captain, you have that sea on your chest. Go
Speaker 1: make plays guy and he hates me, and that's okay.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's enough veteran leadership in the secondary?
Speaker 1: How about veterans that are playing better? How about how
Speaker 1: about veteran guys that's the head coach told you that
Speaker 1: veteran Byron Jones is not playing very well. I was
Speaker 1: wrong about that coming out of training camp. Thought Byron
Speaker 1: Jones was going to be on his way up, first
Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl guy. Bum here we go. Yeah a
Speaker 1: great camp. Yeah, but I'm saying again, Scandrick, you need
Speaker 1: to be play You need to be playing better. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't need to go in there and turn down
Speaker 1: two point conversion tackles or let a guy run forty
Speaker 1: yards on you through through the defense. You know, you
Speaker 1: can be critical all you want of everything around you
Speaker 1: and people around you, and you can say, oh, I
Speaker 1: tune out all the noise. Make some plays. Nine six
Speaker 1: interceptions and nine years. Come on. Really guys doing that
Speaker 1: in the first year of their league. Some of these
Speaker 1: guys make plays. Hey, I talk about being a bully.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's fun. It's always fun. Takes you know what.
Speaker 1: With him, I can put up with a lot of things.
Speaker 1: I mean I put up with a lot of things,
Speaker 1: but not him. Everything is everything is you know, you're
Speaker 1: on me, You're on you know no no, go make plays.
Speaker 1: They put your teammates elected you captain for what go
Speaker 1: make play. So what did things get contentious about last night? Oh,
Speaker 1: because it was the shoes and yeah, he's getting on
Speaker 1: the kid about wearing Adida's shoes and all that. Huh.
Speaker 1: And then they were trying to move along and it
Speaker 1: was just like it was just awkward. Yeah, and didn't
Speaker 1: need to be, but always awkward to say. It's a
Speaker 1: tense time around here, for sure. You look, you dropped
Speaker 1: three straight. You've been outscored by sixty something points in
Speaker 1: the second half. Everybody's on edge. It's almost like whiplash.
Speaker 1: You know, you have six straight games where you're scoring
Speaker 1: twenty eight points. Yes, they don't win all of those games,
Speaker 1: but at least you're doing something and you're in it
Speaker 1: and you feel great. And now you're here and it's
Speaker 1: like stillmate, Like okay, so how do we get back
Speaker 1: to whatever we were doing before? Because this isn't us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and for a half in all three games, the defense
Speaker 1: is played pretty well, really well. Against Philly, it's about
Speaker 1: finishing it, and Rod Marinelli said, it's got to be
Speaker 1: attention to detail, it's got to be focused for four quarters.
Speaker 1: He sees communication breakdowns at times. Sometimes it's technique that's
Speaker 1: the secondary. That's it's it's everything. But it's a team
Speaker 1: game because you look at it. You listen to some
Speaker 1: of these postgame locker rooms teachers, Man, I feel like
Speaker 1: I watched the Rams every week and all they're saying
Speaker 1: is three phases, three phases. Yeah they know that, they
Speaker 1: know that, but that's what I'm saying. Sometimes you're just
Speaker 1: not good enough. That's that's that's is that where we're at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as guys like Brian brought us say you're good enough
Speaker 1: coming out of training camp, you're better than this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are better than Yeah. Maybe maybe the fact is
Speaker 1: maybe the coaching staff is not good enough, maybe the
Speaker 1: players are not good enough. Maybe I'm not good enough,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that's that's where you have to
Speaker 1: look at this thing. We could talk about we're afraid
Speaker 1: to make who it's adjustments and it's like, no, the
Speaker 1: real problem is the real problem at the end of
Speaker 1: the day is they won thirteen games because they played
Speaker 1: as a team and they executed well and they did
Speaker 1: what they had to do. Now they've lost games, they've
Speaker 1: been blown out in some games. It very well could
Speaker 1: be it's a combination of so many things. You lose
Speaker 1: a couple of key guys that shouldn't that should not
Speaker 1: be the one thing that just paralyzes your tea, the
Speaker 1: one thing. I'm just saying, that's a factor. It is
Speaker 1: a factor. But there's a lot of teams that have
Speaker 1: lost guys. There's a lot of teams and Mickey's right,
Speaker 1: Mickey's right, You've you've got, You've got the next man.
Speaker 1: Mentality plays. Maybe your next man is not good enough,
Speaker 1: Maybe the guy you're replacing is not good enough. You
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Speaker 1: give an example making color. It's not a color, it's
Speaker 1: the absence of it is the absence of the absence. Well,
Speaker 1: then maybe that's what they need. That's a nice color.
Speaker 1: This is really nice. Does anybody else wear all white? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Raiders did. The Raiders did against Kansas City. Think in
Speaker 1: honor of Al Davis. I don't know. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever seen the Raiders wear all white before. Al
Speaker 1: Davis member is warm up suits all white. I interviewed
Speaker 1: with the man most fascinating interviews I've ever had. Oh,
Speaker 1: we teased it and he has some hot fire for
Speaker 1: the Ezeki Elliott knowledge. Of course, everyone keeps questioning why
Speaker 1: are the Cowboys so bad without Zieki Elliott? Okay, so
Speaker 1: how many games has he missed? Three? Three? Right now?
Speaker 1: So his rushing stat is still seven hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: three yards. Where does that put him in the ranking?
Speaker 1: He is sixth okay, sixth overall, but he's only a
Speaker 1: hundred and seven yards away from being second. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: let that sink into the impact he has on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. And on top of that, more facts coming
Speaker 1: at you straight fire. When he left out of the
Speaker 1: theme of the program today, when he left, he was
Speaker 1: second in scoring nine kickers to Todd Gurley. Yeah. Right now,
Speaker 1: having a pretty good year. Right now he's third. He
Speaker 1: has fifty four points. Second is fifty six, and he's
Speaker 1: missed three games, and and he played a game week
Speaker 1: two where he had what eight carries for nine yards? Yes,
Speaker 1: so me accentuate how much they miss his presence if
Speaker 1: those are the numbers he posted in ten games or
Speaker 1: eight games, and no one else hardly has passed him
Speaker 1: what he's doing, So they didn't just lose a Kelly Thompson,
Speaker 1: whoever are other running back that got hurt? They lost
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and it's significant. Well I just said that.
Speaker 1: Brian got on me because you can't it's next man up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is next next man up, ain't Ezekiel Elliott. But
Speaker 1: this whole season, every time there was like, oh ze
Speaker 1: gonna play, and we did the lawyer talk here, he's like, well,
Speaker 1: this team is well prepared without him. They have two
Speaker 1: one thousand yard backs behind him. Have one. Now, I know,
Speaker 1: but that's what we heard. But you know what a
Speaker 1: thousand yard back is. Somebody to average is seventy eight
Speaker 1: yards a game. That's a thousand yard back. It's not
Speaker 1: good enough here though. The average seventy eight yards a
Speaker 1: game is not good enough here right now. And everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody kept with the noble thing of yeah, next guy up,
Speaker 1: and that shouldn't matter. But then you started hearing a
Speaker 1: little tippy toeing yesterday about yeah, we've run the ball,
Speaker 1: but we haven't been as efficient or we haven't been
Speaker 1: as effective. Well, I think they haven't run the ball
Speaker 1: in the end zone and they haven't broken off big
Speaker 1: plays in the running game, which is the threat of Zeke.
Speaker 1: You look at the Chargers game longest run nine Rod
Speaker 1: Smith Alfred Morris had a couple twenty yard runs, one
Speaker 1: against Atlanta one against Philly. But it's that threat of
Speaker 1: the big play. Because the running game hasn't been bad,
Speaker 1: it's been solid. It's just that threat of he can
Speaker 1: take you to the house at any time. It was
Speaker 1: solid in twenty fifteen, didn't matter, right, So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: hollow yards. Offensive line, Mick Right, I think the offensive
Speaker 1: lines get a lot to do with that. And you
Speaker 1: certainly didn't like the way the offensive line looked early
Speaker 1: in the week when three fifths of it was missing.
Speaker 1: It looked like a preseason game. Huh. Well, you're facing
Speaker 1: potentially a fourth straight game where it's not your starting
Speaker 1: five if Leo can't go, and then you got Tyrn
Speaker 1: who's been kind of fighting through things. They haven't had
Speaker 1: their lineup, so you gotta just better hope Zach Martin
Speaker 1: has his wits about him. Sounded like he's gonna be okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it did, but again, you've got guys playing not practicing.
Speaker 1: You're still dealing with Jonathan Cooper that hasn't been as
Speaker 1: consistent as you would like at left guard, and Tyrant
Speaker 1: Smith is playing through that groin muscle I'm proud of
Speaker 1: you for saying the offensive line, by the way, because
Speaker 1: a lot of people wouldn't do that. It's I said
Speaker 1: it the other day. I mean probably longer the best
Speaker 1: offensive line, and that that that is, that is that
Speaker 1: is a statement that a lot of people wouldn't make.
Speaker 1: And it's but he's absolutely right, He's absolutely right. And
Speaker 1: and Dak's playing paying the price right now. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know DA's you know, he's he's right. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's having to he's having to make some throws that
Speaker 1: he's not accustomed to make. And yet who can help him? Obviously,
Speaker 1: you are what you are at offensive. You're going to
Speaker 1: get him back for the Seattle game. You are what
Speaker 1: you are? Yeah, yeah, yeah that that get to wait.
Speaker 1: The guy in Cabo right now, that's probably you know,
Speaker 1: no telling what he's doing, but he he's working out,
Speaker 1: not really Mickey, but you know, we'll go there. But
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that's really what he needed. That's
Speaker 1: all he needs to fix up these patches. I think
Speaker 1: this whole team needs Ezekiel. There is a reason why
Speaker 1: they picked him where they picked him. That that is,
Speaker 1: they picked this guy for Tony Romo to try and
Speaker 1: help the running game. They tried to help him with
Speaker 1: the offensive line. They try I had to help it
Speaker 1: for transition too into whoever else they were going to
Speaker 1: play at quarterback and the defense. And because because what
Speaker 1: d Mirnelli's signed off on this, what they tried to
Speaker 1: do was replicate what DeMarco Murray did for them in
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen as a guy, because Murray did a lot
Speaker 1: of the same things in terms of ball control, offense,
Speaker 1: run first, keep your defense off the field. And it
Speaker 1: worked and they won twelve games. Yeah, but this makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, really, that's that's why we have to keep
Speaker 1: harping on twenty one. And it's no disrespect to the
Speaker 1: running other running backs on his team, but he was
Speaker 1: drafted to help everybody on the football team. Don't you
Speaker 1: think he helped out the locker room too, And that
Speaker 1: may sound insignificant. He added some comic. It's just kind
Speaker 1: of goofy, yeah, energy and and and I think guys
Speaker 1: looked at it jumping in the kettle. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Witten thought that he was the
Speaker 1: funniest thing in the world, right, you know, when he'd
Speaker 1: go by and see Witton doing his day, his w
Speaker 1: press conference, and he'd walk by and goes, oh, there's
Speaker 1: old man Whitton talking to the media, you know, and
Speaker 1: Whitten would crack up and he would just do Remember
Speaker 1: how he used to run through the locker room like
Speaker 1: he was avoiding tacklers, just goofy. But you gotta have
Speaker 1: something in this game to juice you up. It's also
Speaker 1: the physical tone he sets on the field. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand that, but the locker room part two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that part can't be overstated because I think it
Speaker 1: pumps up the defense too. There's nobody goofy in the
Speaker 1: locker room. You might be right, can't be goofy right now,
Speaker 1: I know, but you have to sixteen games. It's hard
Speaker 1: and things don't go right all the way that That
Speaker 1: was one of Michael Irvin's best attributes. If you did
Speaker 1: a poll, a secret poll in the locker room, would
Speaker 1: you say that's their biggest problem? If the players. If
Speaker 1: you gave a secret poll to the players, do you
Speaker 1: think that would see they like they miss his presence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: give give me one reason why the team has done
Speaker 1: what it's on this year. Would it be Do you
Speaker 1: think he would be nine of the players would say
Speaker 1: if they were like honest and it was under no,
Speaker 1: it's an anonymous poll. Do you think I don't know.
Speaker 1: Those guys got amigos in there, and that's all fair
Speaker 1: because they're NFL players. They may say it's distractions off
Speaker 1: the field. I'm not going to say another man distractions.
Speaker 1: Oh mickey, what distractions? Anthem? Jerry Z? The anthem was
Speaker 1: their own. The anthem never became a distraction. It did
Speaker 1: it for one game and they won it. Three weeks
Speaker 1: of Jerry Jones closed door meeting. What does this mean?
Speaker 1: How is the team against and they won? It's amazing
Speaker 1: that one player would affect the outcome of really your
Speaker 1: whole scene. But that's that's what I said yesterday, Like,
Speaker 1: can you think of a player ever? Michael Irvin wasn't
Speaker 1: a quarterback really nineteen ninety nine. Emmett Smith though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he went down that that was the end of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. We're talking about my first year, ten and six.
Speaker 1: The year before that's won the division and then three
Speaker 1: and oz to start the seasons, and then they finished
Speaker 1: eight and were the Texans. Yatch the text last years,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, when they've been kind of rolling and
Speaker 1: then walk goes down. Well, look what happened with the
Speaker 1: Raiders last year in the playoffs when Derek Carr went down.
Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders are rolling along and they go
Speaker 1: play in Houston and they have no quarterback has to
Speaker 1: start the quarterback And yeah, other than a quarterback I've
Speaker 1: seen with Rodgers this year when Peyton Manning got hurt
Speaker 1: in Indy, they created went one in fifteen right out him.
Speaker 1: The same team besides him, but not a quarterback who
Speaker 1: has his ball in his hands every time. It's Look
Speaker 1: what happened in ninety six when Michael got suspended for
Speaker 1: the first was it four or six games? Is that word?
Speaker 1: As you go back to with like the emotional leadership
Speaker 1: type thing, he wasn't and he wasn't in the locker room, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, or go back and look, and you know
Speaker 1: they were dragging until he signed right before the start
Speaker 1: of the there was still nine or two or ninety
Speaker 1: three season. I can't remember, and I'll never forget Michael
Speaker 1: showing up after he finally signed, like a Thursday before
Speaker 1: the season opener, and in Friday, he got in the
Speaker 1: locker room totally undressed and walked from one end to
Speaker 1: the other yelling to everybody did you miss seeing this body?
Speaker 1: You know? And everybody cracked up and it was like
Speaker 1: back to old times, right. Well, that was after a suspension.
Speaker 1: I felt like there was some awkwardness when Zeke was
Speaker 1: still there and a lot of people didn't know. I
Speaker 1: mean there were days that he'd be in the locker
Speaker 1: room and the media couldn't talk to him, even though
Speaker 1: he was rules right. So they won though Taylor, they won.
Speaker 1: They didn't start losing until he left. They lost to
Speaker 1: the Packers. Well, but they were competitive rams, Absolutely, they
Speaker 1: were competed. They were five and three. Yeah. The only
Speaker 1: game with that there was no competition feeling was the
Speaker 1: Broncos game and he was in it and I looked
Speaker 1: it up. By the way, there's they're they're the only
Speaker 1: team this season to go three straight games with single
Speaker 1: digit points. There's not another team in the league that's
Speaker 1: done that. There's been a two or three that it's
Speaker 1: been two games in a row, not even the Browns.
Speaker 1: And that's that's why I say there they are better
Speaker 1: than that. They have more. I know what you're saying, Brian,
Speaker 1: You got a second guess everything at this point, Personnel
Speaker 1: and stuff. But they they still have talent on this offense.
Speaker 1: They can get to ten points. They can do it.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do it Thursday. I believe. I
Speaker 1: believe it. It's hard watching this offense play. It's awkward,
Speaker 1: it's very hard. It reminds me. It reminds me my
Speaker 1: years when I was in the sky department here in
Speaker 1: the early two thousands, where you're just every every every
Speaker 1: third down was just a hold your breath play. You know,
Speaker 1: there's just no no rhythm to what you're how you're
Speaker 1: moving the foot. And that's the way defenses are playing.
Speaker 1: They're saying, if you're gonna beat me, you're gonna drive
Speaker 1: eighty yards in fourteen plays, right way giving you anything
Speaker 1: big because we don't think you can. You can hurt
Speaker 1: us at some point you will employ And every time
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have had problems offensively, that's what teams have
Speaker 1: done when they haven't had somebody to threaten it. And
Speaker 1: that's where you go back to your column yesterday about
Speaker 1: and I read it chunk plays. That's the lifeblood of
Speaker 1: this league, right, I mean, that's the difference in it.
Speaker 1: In the LA game, they had eight of twenty plus
Speaker 1: passing yards Cowboys. I think they have like two or
Speaker 1: three and three games. Yeah, you know, they've just got
Speaker 1: to get the ball down the field. Good luck if
Speaker 1: you can't protect. Yeah, yeah, that's that's why it all
Speaker 1: goes to exactly. Yeah, if all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: turns into Ryan Kerrigan and Preston Smiths screaming off the corner,
Speaker 1: good luck with that, you know very well, easily could Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you know they're not going to respect you running
Speaker 1: the football, they're really not. And then you're forced to
Speaker 1: throw everything underneath and you're just going plotting along blop
Speaker 1: blop bloop, and then if you get a penalty, yeah,
Speaker 1: then you're dead. You can't. First it's twenty it's bad
Speaker 1: enough that they can't overcome a legal motion penalty five
Speaker 1: extra yards. You know, usually with Zeke it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll get the five back on this area and then
Speaker 1: second down, okay, no, run it again, and now it's
Speaker 1: second and four or third and four, and now you
Speaker 1: have them, you know, manageable down to distance. It's it's
Speaker 1: very similar to twenty fifteen without Romo, where it just
Speaker 1: it's such an effort to get down the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: without him and now without Zeke, yeah, and with and
Speaker 1: compromising your protection too. And no, I agree with you, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you completely. I don't know if if you felt that.
Speaker 1: I do agree. I think there's an energy missing from
Speaker 1: this team. And I think you make a great point
Speaker 1: with the locker room, the making the lightheartedness of it.
Speaker 1: Because it is a sixteen game season. They've been in
Speaker 1: training camp since July. Yeah, and here you are November
Speaker 1: and you're frustrated and you're mad, and you've seen these
Speaker 1: people way more than your family and friends. You have
Speaker 1: to have that spark. And I think you're you're true,
Speaker 1: Mickey in the sense that Zeke brought that and you
Speaker 1: could laugh at him. But the thing, I think you're
Speaker 1: right too, because there have been guys that I've seen
Speaker 1: that have been goofy and funny, but they weren't great players.
Speaker 1: Ezekiel is a great player and Michael Irvin is a
Speaker 1: great player. So you see these guys being goofy, and
Speaker 1: you're like, that's cool, because on Sunday that guy's gonna
Speaker 1: show up, yeah, and he's gonna be a dominant force.
Speaker 1: And the other team is afraid of that guy. But
Speaker 1: I got him in my locker room. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think you're very true. I think they're missing that. I
Speaker 1: think they're missing the come on guys. Yeah, like you
Speaker 1: keep saying they're better than this, and he don't wanna
Speaker 1: be like, man, we're not losing anymore. It seems like
Speaker 1: they're a team that is expecting the worst. You know,
Speaker 1: you got you gotta shake yourself out of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just seems like that they're always expecting the worst now,
Speaker 1: and that's and that is a problem. That's that that's
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff to shake them out of it.
Speaker 1: If that's indeed the way they're feeling, that's why, and
Speaker 1: Mary Ellie spoke to it. We got to teach him
Speaker 1: during the week, feel comfortable, play fast, all those things.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's yeah, that comes down to the work
Speaker 1: week and how to shake him out of that. We'll
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Speaker 1: something that always cheers us up here and brings all
Speaker 1: the energy for us is Rob's twitter poll. I don't
Speaker 1: know if this one will because it's about improvements and
Speaker 1: adjustments and how the Cowboys can jump start the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. Got four options. Which area do they
Speaker 1: need to improve the most? Coaching was not one of them.
Speaker 1: I think the fans weren't happy with that. Sure, it
Speaker 1: all goes. Hey, coaching goes into all four of these answers.
Speaker 1: You gotta coach them. Oh you gotta have a write in? Yeah,
Speaker 1: got him. Coach can write it in if you want.
Speaker 1: Mick number one pass defense. We talked about the secondary
Speaker 1: in the first segment passing game with Dak getting is
Speaker 1: going down the field pass rush. Marcus Lawrence said, I
Speaker 1: gotta get to the quarterback quicker or the running game
Speaker 1: without Ezekiel Elliott, which is the biggest area they've got
Speaker 1: to improve. You get to win on Thursday. Of those four, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what I voted for. I voted for the
Speaker 1: past defense. I don't think you can go into a
Speaker 1: game and give up another five hundred yards. I mean,
Speaker 1: Mickey said that they got five hundred yards on twenty
Speaker 1: two points on five hundred yards basically, but I mean
Speaker 1: twenty two points would have been enough to win the
Speaker 1: game too. So I just don't think you can give
Speaker 1: up a bunch of huge plays. I don't think you
Speaker 1: could give up a bunch of players on third down.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe the offense will figure things out,
Speaker 1: maybe they will get some protection, Maybe the running game
Speaker 1: will open up some things. Maybe Dak will find a
Speaker 1: you know, some shots down the field with des Des
Speaker 1: tends to play better against these guys. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think that if you if you're you know, there's
Speaker 1: a reason why they're they're all The competition is in
Speaker 1: the secondary for positions. They feel like their past defense
Speaker 1: isn't good enough. It's a great point pass rush. They've
Speaker 1: had one sack in these three losses, haven't gotten quarterbacks
Speaker 1: on the ground, And I think that would help out
Speaker 1: the past defense if you get some pressure up front.
Speaker 1: Because if you look at what they had done, I
Speaker 1: believe it was the previous four games they had fifteen
Speaker 1: sacks one yeah, one in three games. Yeah, been a problem.
Speaker 1: That's a problem, no doubt. And Mickey's right because even
Speaker 1: though he was a little salty, Scandrick made a really
Speaker 1: good point last night when he was talking about it,
Speaker 1: and he said, man, I had it so easy my
Speaker 1: first few years as a cowboy because I had an
Speaker 1: excellent pass rush. He said, there wasn't even time for
Speaker 1: the quarterback to get the ball back in my area
Speaker 1: because they were already on the ground. Makes a huge
Speaker 1: difference for the entire team. Juice. Everyone gets juiced up
Speaker 1: on a big time sack. I think his rookie year,
Speaker 1: they led the league in sacks two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: I think they had almost sixty sixty sacks. Hey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was on a top defense, no doubt. But it
Speaker 1: only went nine and seven. Yeah, thanks to their backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: Imagine that. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, yet, I
Speaker 1: think that goes hand in hand if you have just
Speaker 1: that dominating front seven, that nobody can get passed. So
Speaker 1: are you voting for the past rush. I'm voting for
Speaker 1: just defensive line because I miss Shaun Lee a lot too.
Speaker 1: I know we've talked at exhaust about how much Ezekiel
Speaker 1: is missing from this team. But Sean Lee's a guy
Speaker 1: you look to and you're like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: let him down, even though he's still on that sideline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go hold d line. I know that's
Speaker 1: not on there, and I'm saying right in, right in
Speaker 1: for Tay. Okay, fifty two say passing game with Dak
Speaker 1: with the receivers down the field, pass defense twenty six percent,
Speaker 1: followed by the run game at fifteen percent. Well you
Speaker 1: could say all the above and you need it to
Speaker 1: write in offensive line. Yeah. The thing about it is
Speaker 1: it's funny when they play the Redskins. The Redskins put
Speaker 1: up huge numbers but don't never win. They don't score points,
Speaker 1: but they don't win. Yeah. Yeah, that's been the problem.
Speaker 1: And they put up some and maybe they'll do it again.
Speaker 1: And they've got as many injury problems. Yeah, there's what
Speaker 1: your past us has a chance. They've got eleven Joe
Speaker 1: and you know guys like that I wrote about them.
Speaker 1: You oh yeah, you know, you know Leek Collins. You know,
Speaker 1: here's another guy I talked about, potential first time Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl type player could be up during the sack numbers.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a game where he gets one and
Speaker 1: a half or two going against the guy, you know,
Speaker 1: a backup guy. They've got eleven guys that are listed
Speaker 1: as limited or did not practice. Of the eleven, five
Speaker 1: didn't practice and one, two, three, five or offensive lineman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're still dealing with Trent Williams knee, Brandon Shurf knee.
Speaker 1: He played last week against the limited in practice he
Speaker 1: played Chase Rulier. Yes, they didn't burst Berkstrom played the
Speaker 1: Giants game at center, and then Niseki uh limited. He
Speaker 1: was starting ling his core muscle, and then Morgan Moses
Speaker 1: another tackle was limited and he's got three things knee, ankle,
Speaker 1: and ankle. They've put fifteen players on IR this year.
Speaker 1: I think the forty nine ers got the most at twenty.
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot. Yeah, but yeah, if you can, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's another one of those games where can you affect
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins throwing the ball that helps the past defense
Speaker 1: if you can surely get the pressure you guys are wanting.
Speaker 1: They were a will do that in the game. You
Speaker 1: know when they played last time, they were able to
Speaker 1: effect the way. I don't see the Redskins trying to
Speaker 1: run the football at all. To be honest with you, Hey,
Speaker 1: Giants affected him. He got sacked six times on Thanksgiving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: General's Jenkins with a pick six. So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got you got a pressure. And the Cowboys need takeaways.
Speaker 1: I've talked about it on the blueprint. They're minus six.
Speaker 1: They're in this three game losing streak, and a lot
Speaker 1: of that's on Dak. I mean he can't, he can't
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, but they've the turnovers were coming
Speaker 1: in bunches for this defense before this three game losing streak,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if how much of it is
Speaker 1: defense offenses, they're you know, they can play a little
Speaker 1: closer to the chess when they've got the lead, you know,
Speaker 1: not take as many chances. Thanks for doing that, Rob,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Let's get to wait to go, Rob. We're
Speaker 1: all friends here. It's funny because but the fan, the
Speaker 1: fans all thought that was throwing the football. Yeah, Price,
Speaker 1: they're worried more about Dak and Daz. That seems to
Speaker 1: be the big thing because because Romo, Romo and Dez
Speaker 1: that relationship. Now, like Laurent Robinson was an elite receiver
Speaker 1: when he had Romo and you're gonna waste Dez Bryant's prime.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's okay, Yeah, it's Elvis in Midland is on
Speaker 1: the line. What is your question? Elvis? Just a couple
Speaker 1: of quick comments and I'll get out of here. Thumbs
Speaker 1: up to Chris Jones. Unfortunately, best player on the field
Speaker 1: right now. Sure, Unfortunately. I think that's a great thing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thumbs down to the entire defensive scheme. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's too simple and the players aren't good enough to
Speaker 1: to compete with it. One on two, I agree with
Speaker 1: you on In addition, you guys just happened to be
Speaker 1: talking about Scandrick. But I've been trying to call for
Speaker 1: a few weeks. I'm just a guy sitting on my couch.
Speaker 1: But Scander does not want to tackle. He's scared of
Speaker 1: or doesn't want to hit, and if he does, he's hurt.
Speaker 1: It seems like he makes a tackle one out about twenty.
Speaker 1: So for this guy to be a captain and to
Speaker 1: be barking at other people, I thinking he's a look
Speaker 1: in the mirror because I see I see fear out there.
Speaker 1: The last thing I think Garrett has two winning seasons
Speaker 1: when he's the full time head coach. And I know
Speaker 1: it's hard for you guys to work there and call
Speaker 1: for his job, but I think the fans are tired
Speaker 1: of it and restless. The water is dirty. It's time
Speaker 1: for to throw him out. Thank you, thank you. Concise.
Speaker 1: So you said one of two, Brian, I'm assuming that
Speaker 1: you're agreeing with the Chris Jones analysis. No. No. One
Speaker 1: of two of he was talking about the about the
Speaker 1: defense and the Marinis. I think the scheme is still viable.
Speaker 1: I think that they're just not playing very well in it,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think I mean, did he see
Speaker 1: how many times they tried blitzing? Yeah, they didn't get there.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get guys home. I mean they're trying.
Speaker 1: They were trying to effect the way the Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has only been sacked twelve times coming into
Speaker 1: that game, and so yeah, it was gonna be difficult,
Speaker 1: but they tried to affect him. They couldn't get they
Speaker 1: couldn't get anybody home. They or they blitz Scandrick off
Speaker 1: the edge and Rivers knows it's coming and he does
Speaker 1: what he's done his whole career. Is that so what
Speaker 1: hangs to that side? Yeah, hangs in there, takes the hit,
Speaker 1: makes a big play down the field, but the ball
Speaker 1: did come out quicker from you know. The one thing though,
Speaker 1: and his final point about the head coaching situation is
Speaker 1: the owner, general manager, he gives us a lot of
Speaker 1: leeway on this, on this, on our platforms to say
Speaker 1: what we want to say. I mean, I should have
Speaker 1: been gone a long time ago if that wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: So I'll disagree with him on that point that you know,
Speaker 1: if that's how he feels, that's how he feels. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think Mickey's made some great points her
Speaker 1: last few days about the offensive line and the overall
Speaker 1: talent level and that that I look on myself and
Speaker 1: the evaluation. You know that when you look at your
Speaker 1: team and you say, are we good enough? Can we
Speaker 1: withstand injury and we protect ourselves? Now? They they haven't,
Speaker 1: They haven't played well enough, And maybe that could say,
Speaker 1: you know, you needed the runner, you needed the quarterback,
Speaker 1: you needed a lot of things to happen to win
Speaker 1: thirteen games last year, but you know you're not doing
Speaker 1: that this year. Often wonder why when people accused us
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, why do they listen or why do
Speaker 1: they read on Twitter? If they don't like our opinions?
Speaker 1: Why do you I wouldn't feel all somebody. I don't
Speaker 1: think he I don't think he's questioning our opinion. I
Speaker 1: think he was saying it was difficult for us to
Speaker 1: have to make that call. Well, then he doesn't listen enough.
Speaker 1: Then that that that that's my disagreement there. But I
Speaker 1: thought his points were valid in a lot of areas. Yes,
Speaker 1: and they're frustrated. They should be frustrated. Hey, we were
Speaker 1: just talking about college coaches. I would never want to
Speaker 1: be a college coach because you talk about fans getting
Speaker 1: restless in about five seconds. Heck, someone had what winning
Speaker 1: seasons every year he was there, but Bay he took
Speaker 1: the program to a different height and now it's not
Speaker 1: good enough. And you know, yeah, this is what I learned.
Speaker 1: I learned this from John Gruden. You know, I asked
Speaker 1: John Igo and this after he got fired at Tampa,
Speaker 1: and I say, man, I'm sorry. He goes, don't feel
Speaker 1: sorry for me. I say why, I mean, you lost
Speaker 1: your jobbies. That guy's got to pay me fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: They get buyas that are real nice. No, not every
Speaker 1: coach gets that, but coach Summerlin in sixty days, now
Speaker 1: fifty eight days, Rob's university has got to come up
Speaker 1: with ten point four million. Yeah, so you know there's
Speaker 1: I still feel bad for him, but but no, but
Speaker 1: thinking that's why some of these coaches, you see him
Speaker 1: and when the pressure starts to happen and they get
Speaker 1: the smile on their face and they're kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know what if you fire me, you gotta pay me.
Speaker 1: And so I learned that from John Gruden. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some assistant. Now. The support people don't make fifteen
Speaker 1: million dollars, but you know, and if coaches lives get affected.
Speaker 1: But the way that day and age of this way
Speaker 1: athletics are nowadays, if you let go in, you're in.
Speaker 1: You're a head coach. You're well compensated for getting letting go.
Speaker 1: Would you retire? Absolutely, Somebody handed you ten point four
Speaker 1: million dollars in fifty eight days. It's a spirit of competition.
Speaker 1: Guys can call me at the lake if you need me.
Speaker 1: I'm gone Costa Rica. Yeah, maybe the bars open up,
Speaker 1: you guys, come on down here some cool beer. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe that was Jason Witten's playing. Go there, get fired,
Speaker 1: and then make a ton of money the next two years.
Speaker 1: Come down. We'll have some call chowder. We'll do we'll
Speaker 1: do it up. Yeah, I'm moving to Italy. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: I'll see you there, big guy. Yeah, so Gruden said it.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I'm really sorry. Guys, what are
Speaker 1: you sorry about? Because Glazers to me fifteen Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: on Monday night football now living the life. Hey, he's
Speaker 1: gonna get a villa in Tuscany right next to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and buts. But what what Brian said is what
Speaker 1: people don't think about. It's not just someone getting fired. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a tire of coaching staff or it's supports staff
Speaker 1: or and these people ain't making that kind of money.
Speaker 1: They're not that they're out of job. That's what you
Speaker 1: feel sorry for. And they got they gotta move, don't
Speaker 1: get me, that's what you feel sorry for. Ye see,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like the guy Mike Riley, Mike
Speaker 1: Riley is one of the nicest men I've ever been
Speaker 1: around in my life. Absolutely, and and in Nebraska taken
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a month for
Speaker 1: the next three years. I'd be with Mickey and Italy.
Speaker 1: I would have a hell of a wine cellar. I
Speaker 1: was just getting ready to say that I would try
Speaker 1: every wine the heads right now. You mean you need
Speaker 1: me to be like you need me to write for
Speaker 1: the paper hat parts. I'm sure, Yeah, I'll I'll cover
Speaker 1: football for you. They get your connection in Lake Como.
Speaker 1: Yeah you might, Yeah, you might need something that does
Speaker 1: anybody ever ever heard of anybody in Italy getting arrested
Speaker 1: for a d WI Never? They walk everywhere, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you walk? You walk? Are you get one of those boats? Right?
Speaker 1: A train on the boat? Yeah? Fun, fact you got there.
Speaker 1: That's a kind of a bad way to look at them.
Speaker 1: You need to go see if we can go get
Speaker 1: a d W either in Italy. Oh my gosh. No,
Speaker 1: I would not drive the way those people drive. You
Speaker 1: couldn't get me they do or by Vicky would get
Speaker 1: hit by Vespa on the bike. Well, guys on the
Speaker 1: bright the cowboys and when the NFC is still and
Speaker 1: how can they do it? Rob tell us you have
Speaker 1: that stat Yeah, I do. You have to lose every
Speaker 1: game they can win their last five games in a row,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles can go oh for five in the
Speaker 1: last five games of the season, and the Cowboys come
Speaker 1: out on top. Lloyd Christmas Lloyd Christmas Kent what's the
Speaker 1: Eagles record now? Ten and one, saying there's a chance
Speaker 1: they could go ten and six, Yeah, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: would go tenants. You'd have to win the last game,
Speaker 1: but you have to beat them. Well, they have to
Speaker 1: lose it if they're going to lose them all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, they're looking there. You have it optimism and excitement. Okay.
Speaker 1: So as far as the in the hunt, you're at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the pole, right, you're in the bottom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're five and six. You with the Packers rights, the Redskins. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're Packers Redskins. I can't keep them all there, Cowboys yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So you're at the bottom of that thing. So who
Speaker 1: ahead of you? The only the only chance you've got
Speaker 1: somebody else's five and six Arizona. I think, yes. The
Speaker 1: only chance you have then is that you would have
Speaker 1: to have you win all your games, but you'd have
Speaker 1: to beat you'd have to beat Seattle because they're there
Speaker 1: are seven and four team, right, there. They are actually
Speaker 1: a playoff, but you would have to beat them to
Speaker 1: win all your games, right, yeah, and you'd have to
Speaker 1: beat the or you'd have to get ahead of the Lions.
Speaker 1: They would have to lose. And some of these teams
Speaker 1: probably are gonna play each other, right, some of these
Speaker 1: wild card hopefuls, so yeah, yeah, they're not out of it.
Speaker 1: Rams in Seattle have to play um, Carolina, and the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia has to play Seattle. Yeah, um this weekend at Seattle,
Speaker 1: right at Seattle. Yep. Yeah, leading a boom, No longer
Speaker 1: a booming. It's that third place schedule. Stop. No, this
Speaker 1: is actually NFC playing the NFC West. Yes, I guess, okay,
Speaker 1: first place schedule. No, they got the Bears and they
Speaker 1: got Carolinas, so that Carolina wasn't work out for much
Speaker 1: much of a break. How about the third place schedule
Speaker 1: you might get next year? Green Bay third place air quotes,
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers back maybe opening day? No, it'll
Speaker 1: be the Giants at home? So what what what division
Speaker 1: do they have next year? The Southuth we get to
Speaker 1: go to New Orleans. Uh oh, making sad. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Houston, mickey, really yeah, quick road trip about that,
Speaker 1: and we get to go to Indie. Indy's another one. Now,
Speaker 1: Indie's not bad. I love Indie. I love the Combine.
Speaker 1: If we can can't love to combine? Right, if you
Speaker 1: can stay downtown and where else? Wheber gril, weber grill.
Speaker 1: We get to go to the AFC cell. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna get We got Tennessee at home, I believe because
Speaker 1: we played there, Tennessee Tennessee here. Yes, you got Tennessee
Speaker 1: at home. And then you also went to Jacksonville. You
Speaker 1: played in London, So you're gonna get Jacksonville at home
Speaker 1: in London? No? No, oh here here? Maybe in London
Speaker 1: they haven't announced those games, right, Brian? Would you better
Speaker 1: text me the moment that you find out. Well, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't go on road trips anymore. Maybe
Speaker 1: I have to jump back in on that special thing
Speaker 1: here when those teams, when those teams get like trade
Speaker 1: off a home game to play in London, do they
Speaker 1: get the money in London as a home game and
Speaker 1: then they just share it with the visiting right Diderry
Speaker 1: ever do that? Would he sacrifice the home game and
Speaker 1: you go to Well you're not really sacrificing and want,
Speaker 1: from a financial standpoint, get a super Bowl? Would you
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? To get to get the draft, to
Speaker 1: get the draft, would you do it? I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're hosting the game, it's your game. It would probably
Speaker 1: be a game where that was going to be scheduled
Speaker 1: at three twenty five. And he's sick of answering the
Speaker 1: questions about the sun, so he's like, hell, let's go
Speaker 1: to London. It will be cloudy there to announced that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game got moved. Did you announce that? Yes,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game got flex Now Mickey will have to
Speaker 1: be home sooner to be back here, told me I
Speaker 1: was getting soft. He wants all seven thirty kicks. You
Speaker 1: like that, you get you get to get home early, Mickey, especially,
Speaker 1: that's the probably the longest rip, that's the longest flight
Speaker 1: other than Philadelphia, England. Yeah, I'll make sure you guys
Speaker 1: have a bottle of champagne on that flight home from Yeah, years,
Speaker 1: very thoughtful of it. I'll make sure that no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is New York two weeks from now, philadelp he's
Speaker 1: talking the year New Year's Eve. You're coming home, but
Speaker 1: that's a noon game. Yeah, that's a neon game. Still
Speaker 1: you need a bottle of champagne on the plane home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's start it early, big guy. Don't be saying that
Speaker 1: the TSA might be listening. Oh really Yeah, sorry, Mickey
Speaker 1: doesn't drink on the plane. That's right. Mickey is such
Speaker 1: a great don't and I don't you know, yeah, shouldn't,
Speaker 1: shouldn't drink. Yeah. Well, guys, it's been even when it
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