WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Does This Team Have Enough Talent? 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:07.320 This he is talking Cowboys screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:16.079 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys asked test play No. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:22.320 Your hosts, Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broadens, Taylor Stern and Rob 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:27.240 Phillips welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. Of course, 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.440 it is a Tuesday here at the Star in Frisco, 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.720 a Saturday for the or is it a Friday here? Friday? 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.839 See all my days are off Friday here for the 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.800 Dallas Cowboys as they get ready to play on Thursday. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:42.839 Now we have to break some news. Jason Witten is 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:47.120 now the head coach of the University of Tack. Just kidding, 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.479 making sure everyone is listening and paying attention because we 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.519 will have some real news here. But Mickey's shaking his 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.320 head because, of course, Witten was asked about five minutes 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.440 worth of questions if he would be leaving the team 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.360 to go coach the balls. Where did that story break 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.920 or what's his name? Blay Travis Bay Travis Travis great 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:12.160 country Western performer yep so and what media venue did 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.440 he use to break that story? He has a website 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.200 of his own, he does. Somebody called him out for 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:24.479 like using his phone as a camera and stan Vrette. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.240 Stan Verrette basically called him out for for his way 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.280 of getting out his information. Let me ask you this, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.560 two years from now, two years from now, where do 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.319 you go for that job? It's a lot of work. 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.959 I don't know. I do think he wants to get 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:44.640 into coaching. Great coach. Yeah, don't you think high school? Nah? 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.960 His grandfather. I just think, you know what I think, Witten. 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.480 I don't see Witten shooting for anything other than the moon. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.480 I really don't our high school hours coaching any different 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.280 than college or pro. You don't have to recruit, Yeah, 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.520 recruiting is Yeah. He works because he's made so much money. 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.480 If you're really not good, your season's over about the 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.840 middle of November, you really want to work all those 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.400 hours when you've made the money he's made when he retired, 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.280 I think he's still going. I think I think this 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.560 is a talk for another day, but I think he does. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.200 I'll just say this, there's been some strange stuff this season, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.600 many seasons around here. That was about the weirdest. If 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.760 I would have said two years ago, sitting right here 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.400 and said, hey, guys, two years from now, Tony Romo 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.040 will be in the number one broadcast position with Jim 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:33.760 Nance CBS. CBS. Would you have believed me and Jason 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.880 Witten would be the head coach at Tennessee. Well that's 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.880 not happening today, but well it was happening yesterday. Just 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.079 the idea that mister iron Man had to sit there 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.040 and say, no, I'm not going to leave the team 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.600 tomorrow to go goa to my alma mater is just absurd. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:51.320 But you think two years from now he would give 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.240 it a thought. Okay, here's I'm just asking. Here's the 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.680 and you would hope he thinks about this. What's the 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.720 most difficult thing to do to become a college head 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:06.400 coach when you've never coached before? Time management, for sure, 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:11.240 putting together a staff, Yeah, and that staff will save 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:15.000 your butt. And he doesn't. I don't know if he 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.760 has enough connections. I mean, he's he gonna get Tony 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:23.880 rom would to come and be his quarterback coach. George 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.640 Tigue is out there, or Colombo, maybe your offensive line coach. Sperrano. 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.200 He loves Sperrano. We've already had discussions. I will be 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.600 leaving to Knoxville to be there. So it's been bloomed 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.000 to be his defensive line coach. Her West is from 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.200 that area or West. Piece of staff together, Mick, I 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.040 think you know what, actually, you know what you should do. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.400 Don't worry about the coaching part. Just get some big 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.960 names to help recruit. Yeah, like get Evan Smith to 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.920 walk into somebody's living Immant. Smith's son's already getting recruited 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.880 by Georgia. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen I've seen him up 0:03:54.920 --> 0:04:02.560 close to personal Mickey Spagnola, quality control. Yeah, operation sid. 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:08.120 He just tells no to everyone's ESPN. Nah, not this week, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.440 get away time working here. Let me ask you this, 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.720 I don't I think I think getting a staff together 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.599 would be the least of his problems. Yeah, but you know, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.880 like he might get out coached. The thing about it is, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.120 though he could he could lean on. I'm sorry, Tam, 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.200 I'm taking time away from your show. This was fun. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:31.880 I'm you know, I'm I'm sitting there thinking though that 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.600 he there's some guys that he can lean on who 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.599 who wouldn't want to help Jason Witten try try to 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.520 put together a staff. Jason Witton could call you up, 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.719 could call up a Bill Belichick, could call up Phil Fulmer, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.080 who used to be a coach at Tennessee, could call 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.520 up David. Yeah, he could call up David Cutcliff at 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.080 Duke who turned down the job. You know he he 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.400 there's a lot of guys. I mean, he's a Tennessee guy. Yeah, 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.000 so it's true. I mean, I'll say this coaching is 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.480 in his blood. We talked about we talked about the 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.080 quarterback that used to that used to win the nationale 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.200 te Martin t. Martin's kind of turned into a successful 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.880 offensive coordinator. I spoke to his brother Sean Witten for 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:13.960 about an hour for a story I did in training camp. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:15.800 I thought you were going to tell me yesterday you 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.000 were tracking. No, No, I'm not tracking. I was loving 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.000 where you're going with this. He's the head coach now 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.240 at Elizabethan where they're from, and took over for their 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.280 for their granddad, and like it's just what they grew 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.000 up on. So yeah, when he's done, I can definitely 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.480 see it integrity. Yeah, that's a great story. If they 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.560 grew up on the John Wooden books and all the 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.120 you know that their granddad taught him, So I could 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.599 see it. But I mean it was just crazy yesterday 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.200 that he had to answer questions about like, are you 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.520 still committed to the Cowboys for the final five games 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.279 of the season. Come on, final five games of the season. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.839 Way to think that there's no playoff? Cha, captain plus 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.599 plus into January maybe, huh, I said the captain of 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.200 the team. Yes see you guys, Well there is some 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.200 real news here, guys. Of course, Jerry spoke this morning 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.480 and had a very roundabout answer of Shawn Lee's status. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:10.080 I think you you posted it best, Yeah, he said. Uh, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.880 I think he's gonna be back soon. Don't know what 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:17.760 soon is, but back soon, giants, I believe, not not Mickey. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.520 Mickey said this three games ago. It was gonna be 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.600 hard for him to be back in twelve days and 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.120 they just, you know, the way the schedule fell for him. Unfortunately, 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.279 that's what they're dealing with, you know. And he's not 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.920 even out there going through stretch now, so uh, that 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.839 doesn't bode well. At least the other guys that everybody 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.559 but Sean and else were out there at least going 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.919 through stretch. Durant wasn't out there either. Yeah, Durant with 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.360 the concussions, and I don't think he's he's not getting 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.320 back in time. They're just hoping there's the last practice 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:55.240 of the week. Yeah, well I'm now jeez. And I 0:06:55.240 --> 0:07:00.000 wrote about him today as my matchup guy, Elsie. Yeah, 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.640 I wrote about him as mine. I think he's got 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.560 a chance. They're gonna wait because he's got two more days, right, Yeah, 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.840 And I think their game. I think it's another one 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.000 of those deals where they just kind of treating him 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.200 like Tyron and say, let's get you to the game. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.400 But the question was asking a good one from Todd Archer. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.880 He's not a seven eight year pro. So can he 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.720 miss all week of practice and play? I don't know. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.880 You want no? I want Lyle Collins if he can play. Yeah, 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.160 but I'm just saying that Spyron Bell at right tackle 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.600 for now. That's how they lined up when they did 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:33.440 their little under the bar routine. Elsie's still young players 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.880 all I'm saying. But if he has the experience like 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.200 Byron Smith, could he sit out all week and then 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.960 go on a positive note? You're mentioning that Zack Martin 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.080 was out there, so yes, he was good to go? 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.800 Rant was? I mean? Martin was out there, Hitchens was 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:54.240 out there? Who else was questionable? That was limited. Switzer 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.800 out there, Tyron was out there, yeah, switcher Switzer was 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.840 out there on the practice report, yes, or ankle yeah, 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.240 but I yeah, Durant's not gonna make it. I don't 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.960 think it'd be interesting when we do these the inactives. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.680 I wonder if I could put Switzer on that inactive list. Well, 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.840 you can't put Darren McFadden on there. Yeah, but no, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.640 I'm yeah, you put Trey Williams. Trey Wayne absolutely. I know, 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.280 I know you're, I know you're he's giving you some 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.520 juice in the return game. But if he's nicked up, yeah, 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.400 and you know what and if if it comes down 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.079 to it, we're hearing about all these changes in the secondary, 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.000 what's Jordan Lewis's role going to be? You know, Jordan 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.880 Lewis returned kicks at Michigan, was pretty good at it. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.200 If he's he had lined up at training camp a 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.040 few times to do that as well. See that's what 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.040 I'm saying. I just kind of wonder if if Jordan Lewis, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.280 if he doesn't have a role at a prominent role, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.880 which I think he will, I just don't think he's 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.160 gonna start I don't think he's gonna be your nickel starter. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.600 Sound like they're going to really shake this thing up 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.360 just in the secondary. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.120 a different look secondary where these guys line up, It'll 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:08.040 be okay that it's a different look. Yeah, can't keep 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:09.679 doing the same. Let me ask you this though, Mickey 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.120 and guys, I mean, if you would indulge me on this, 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.679 what moves? Okay, if you had to take if you 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.719 had to just the guy, how would you play your 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.079 guys you have right now? How would you line them 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:26.560 up right now? If you could in the secondary? I 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.760 mean a Woozier starting at left corner. Okay, a Woozia 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.880 starts the left corner for Mickey rob Yeah, that's yeah. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.600 I mean I want to think that's the only thing 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.520 that makes sense right now. Yeah, okay, what about Scandrick 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:41.160 in the slot? Does that do anything for you? Put 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.080 him over there where he belongs on the right corner. Yeah, see, 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.160 I don't disagree with it. Who you heard me say 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.720 that from training camp? These other guys were good enough. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.439 Let him do one job, not playing on the outside. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.040 And who's your slot corner? I just throw somebody in there. Well, 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.680 you're you're covering a pretty good slot. See they're not 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.920 beat that badly in the slot. It seems like, okay, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.640 your options, your options, and guys would be, would you 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:10.000 put Anthony Brown in there? Would you feel comfortable putting 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.000 him there? Brown? He's lost his job? Browner or Woods? 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.520 Brown or Woods? Are Jordan Lewis or Jordan Lewis? Yeah, 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.120 I think at this point maybe Brown, give him a 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.440 different type of role, let him prove himself a little 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:27.360 bit where he's there. He just hasn't played a lot there. Yeah. Yeah, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:31.760 even going back to college, the thought, well, I don't know. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.439 I mean, if he's not starting, then what's his role. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.760 Mickey was right about him though about the zone stuff. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.520 If you put him in the slot playing man, maybe 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.920 you give him a chance. The thing you have to 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.640 worry about is him playing hands handy guy, you know, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.600 and holding and stuff like that, and all these have 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.839 been a big problem for him. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.960 You're putting him in the slot where you're exposing him 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.040 and have to run all over the field. But it's 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.959 better than playing him that way than playing him off 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.400 coverage in zone, which Mickey pointed out, Yes, to day 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.920 doesn't seem to be suits him very well. I just 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.559 feel like this matchup though, with the types of receivers 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.720 they have, the quick short area routes and the way 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.360 they work in space. I'm thinking Crowder I might rather 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.000 have Scandrick in the slot in this game and having 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:21.719 to play both. But that's just me. Well, he brought 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.880 up an interesting name, Woods. Would you want to put 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.400 Woods over there? He's played some of it. He's played yeah, 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.720 I mean they played him down. Obviously, he's better playing 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:36.120 down and covering that. That's the thing I think with him. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.920 Coverage has been not a problem. There's been some other thing. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.600 Tackling has not been great. Seeing some things has something 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.960 great seeing things, And I think that's difficult for a 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.800 young guy to play safety and anticipate what's going to happen. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.280 Because he got caught peeking inside a couple of balls 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.000 going over his head. Yeah, a couple different times. You know. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.480 Can't have that. Yeah, No, everybody's such in a hurry. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.559 Get Jeff Eath out of there. Yeah, we got to 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.400 play these young guys. And then they go play and 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.000 they get beat and it's like, why are we playing 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.240 all these young guys? Why didn't we keep Bury Church 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.680 and JJ Wilcox. Yeah, you know, it's like everything kind 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.559 of just rotates on. Let me ask you this, see 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:21.040 something new sometimes? Is Heath the liability or I mean 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.240 I'm just saying that has nobody stepped up? Is Jeff 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:31.000 Heath better as a rotational player special team's phenom? Yeah, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.440 we talked about that and again I mean we we, 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.720 you know, we we. That's the thing. Maybe me personally misevaluated. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.560 I mean last year he was just looking for a 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.240 spot to start, and now it's like every all eggs 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.959 in the basket. What about Byron Jones? Where does Byron 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.880 Jones need to play? He needs to play to play 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.400 back back er up? Where where does he miss more 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.480 tack back up? He needs to play up? I agree 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.880 with Mickey on that up he needs to be when 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.800 they go die and put him up close to the 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.840 line a scrimmage. I agree there because see the problems 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.200 I have, Robin and just go ahead ahead. The problems 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.080 I have when Byron Jones with tackling, it's not when 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.640 he's at the line or near the line. It's when 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.360 you get him in space coming forward that he that 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.160 he has the problems. That's that's where I'm trying to 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.840 play him in a spot where I feel like that 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.480 he can maybe make plays. He again, everything underneath, he 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:30.000 could tackle, He covered tight ends, just talked our way 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.320 out of a single safety high position. Well, I just thought, Okay, 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.080 who's if if we do everything we just said, who 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.360 has a single safety high Woozier hurt him in my 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.559 opinion this season because it's forced him to play closer 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.880 to the line. To me, any better suited is more 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.840 of a center field type guy, and he hasn't been 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.520 able to do that this season. He's a little bit, 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.679 but he's played up more than maybe they had envisioned 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.280 for him. Well, Woozier just needed to be the left corner. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.120 Oh you're gonna get a chance this, mickey, You got 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.160 it right, you get you're gonna see it. Get ready. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.439 But he that's the play should have been from the start. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.440 He's playing safety. He did never play safety in training camp. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.120 If you think back and look, he rarely ever liked 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.400 I know that. But that's where they put him at 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.920 one point before he heard his hamstring again. Well yeah, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.080 because they were looking for a spot to play him, 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.400 to see where we can play him. But if you, 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.920 if all things were equal, he would have won the 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.240 left cornerbacks. But there you have it. I think the 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:33.120 Scouts really loved Jordan Lewis. They did. They loved Jordan Lewis. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.120 Did you guys get a chance to hear last night's 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.920 Cowboys Hour with Jordan Lewis and Orlando Scandrick. I missed that. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.440 I heard he got contentious. It was a little awkward. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.640 I mean, Scandrick is always a little bit awkward. He 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.280 was throwing some bows at a young money Jeff Kavanaugh 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:52.960 over there. What just jabs? Bows are arrows? Arrows? Well, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.440 he said he didn't know what he was talking about. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.280 He doesn't. Yeah, called him a bully and different things 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.800 like I could call kavanall bully. Yeah, Scandrick being Scandrick, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.680 But Jordan Lewis was on there, and Jordan Lewis is 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.000 a very shy guy, at least from the outside looking in. Obviously, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.120 guys are so much different in the locker room and 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.120 around players and teammates, so bear with me that. But 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.600 it was interesting to hear his perspective on different things, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.960 as far as like, okay, what he was asked to do? 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.360 Because you know, Scandrick's over here, like, man, I didn't 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:20.840 get a stern until I was a fifth or six 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.760 year guy, and you you're out there, you know, and 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.480 all the stuff, and Jordan Lewis just kind of like 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.040 takes it with what it is. Yeah, and yeah, you know, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.400 talking about being at the program of Michigan and how 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.400 that prepared him and absolutely very correctly identified he should 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.120 have said. He should have said, yeah, Michigan, we no 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:43.640 Boise State. Yeah. Yeah. See this, this to me is 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.600 it's always the it's always the chip on the shoulder bit, 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.680 arguing with the arguing with the guy that's interviewing with you, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.920 arguing with your teammate, you know, all this stuff like that. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.840 You know that that that that act has worn very 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:01.160 thin with me, very thin with me. Yeah, you know what, 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.960 Hey identify what he plays well Kansas City. I identify 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.840 when he plays poorly. You can't give up plays. You're 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.600 the captain, you have that sea on your chest. Go 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:15.560 make plays guy and he hates me, and that's okay. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.520 Do you think there's enough veteran leadership in the secondary? 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.560 How about veterans that are playing better? How about how 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.480 about veteran guys that's the head coach told you that 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.920 veteran Byron Jones is not playing very well. I was 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.440 wrong about that coming out of training camp. Thought Byron 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.200 Jones was going to be on his way up, first 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.360 time Pro Bowl guy. Bum here we go. Yeah a 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:40.160 great camp. Yeah, but I'm saying again, Scandrick, you need 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.480 to be play You need to be playing better. You know, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.840 you don't need to go in there and turn down 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.960 two point conversion tackles or let a guy run forty 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.280 yards on you through through the defense. You know, you 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.800 can be critical all you want of everything around you 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.040 and people around you, and you can say, oh, I 0:16:56.080 --> 0:17:01.080 tune out all the noise. Make some plays. Nine six 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:05.359 interceptions and nine years. Come on. Really guys doing that 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.720 in the first year of their league. Some of these 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.760 guys make plays. Hey, I talk about being a bully. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.960 It's it's it's fun. It's always fun. Takes you know what. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.400 With him, I can put up with a lot of things. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.240 I mean I put up with a lot of things, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.280 but not him. Everything is everything is you know, you're 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.399 on me, You're on you know no no, go make plays. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:36.080 They put your teammates elected you captain for what go 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.400 make play. So what did things get contentious about last night? Oh, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.440 because it was the shoes and yeah, he's getting on 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:47.520 the kid about wearing Adida's shoes and all that. Huh. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.840 And then they were trying to move along and it 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.119 was just like it was just awkward. Yeah, and didn't 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.359 need to be, but always awkward to say. It's a 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.040 tense time around here, for sure. You look, you dropped 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.080 three straight. You've been outscored by sixty something points in 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:07.159 the second half. Everybody's on edge. It's almost like whiplash. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.359 You know, you have six straight games where you're scoring 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.720 twenty eight points. Yes, they don't win all of those games, 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.880 but at least you're doing something and you're in it 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.040 and you feel great. And now you're here and it's 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.359 like stillmate, Like okay, so how do we get back 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:22.359 to whatever we were doing before? Because this isn't us. Yeah, 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.399 and for a half in all three games, the defense 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.440 is played pretty well, really well. Against Philly, it's about 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.359 finishing it, and Rod Marinelli said, it's got to be 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.200 attention to detail, it's got to be focused for four quarters. 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.720 He sees communication breakdowns at times. Sometimes it's technique that's 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.760 the secondary. That's it's it's everything. But it's a team 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.679 game because you look at it. You listen to some 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.080 of these postgame locker rooms teachers, Man, I feel like 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.000 I watched the Rams every week and all they're saying 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:54.280 is three phases, three phases. Yeah they know that, they 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.359 know that, but that's what I'm saying. Sometimes you're just 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.680 not good enough. That's that's that's is that where we're at. Yeah, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:01.920 as guys like Brian brought us say you're good enough 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.280 coming out of training camp, you're better than this. Yeah, 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.840 you are better than Yeah. Maybe maybe the fact is 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.480 maybe the coaching staff is not good enough, maybe the 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.120 players are not good enough. Maybe I'm not good enough, 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.280 you know. I mean, that's that's where you have to 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.200 look at this thing. We could talk about we're afraid 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.000 to make who it's adjustments and it's like, no, the 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.240 real problem is the real problem at the end of 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.000 the day is they won thirteen games because they played 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.160 as a team and they executed well and they did 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:33.080 what they had to do. Now they've lost games, they've 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:36.840 been blown out in some games. It very well could 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.040 be it's a combination of so many things. 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