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Speaker 1: Your hosts, Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broadens, Taylor Stern and Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillips welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it is a Tuesday here at the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 1: a Saturday for the or is it a Friday here? Friday?

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Speaker 1: See all my days are off Friday here for the

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Speaker 1: Now we have to break some news. Jason Witten is

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Speaker 1: now the head coach of the University of Tack. Just kidding,

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Speaker 1: making sure everyone is listening and paying attention because we

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Speaker 1: will have some real news here. But Mickey's shaking his

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Speaker 1: head because, of course, Witten was asked about five minutes

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Speaker 1: worth of questions if he would be leaving the team

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Speaker 1: to go coach the balls. Where did that story break

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Speaker 1: or what's his name? Blay Travis Bay Travis Travis great

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Speaker 1: country Western performer yep so and what media venue did

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Speaker 1: he use to break that story? He has a website

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Speaker 1: of his own, he does. Somebody called him out for

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Speaker 1: like using his phone as a camera and stan Vrette.

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Speaker 1: Stan Verrette basically called him out for for his way

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Speaker 1: of getting out his information. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: two years from now, two years from now, where do

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Speaker 1: you go for that job? It's a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I do think he wants to get

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Speaker 1: into coaching. Great coach. Yeah, don't you think high school? Nah?

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Speaker 1: His grandfather. I just think, you know what I think, Witten.

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Speaker 1: I don't see Witten shooting for anything other than the moon.

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Speaker 1: I really don't our high school hours coaching any different

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Speaker 1: than college or pro. You don't have to recruit, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: recruiting is Yeah. He works because he's made so much money.

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Speaker 1: If you're really not good, your season's over about the

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Speaker 1: middle of November, you really want to work all those

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Speaker 1: hours when you've made the money he's made when he retired,

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Speaker 1: I think he's still going. I think I think this

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Speaker 1: is a talk for another day, but I think he does.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say this, there's been some strange stuff this season,

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Speaker 1: many seasons around here. That was about the weirdest. If

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Speaker 1: I would have said two years ago, sitting right here

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, guys, two years from now, Tony Romo

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Speaker 1: will be in the number one broadcast position with Jim

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Speaker 1: Nance CBS. CBS. Would you have believed me and Jason

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Speaker 1: Witten would be the head coach at Tennessee. Well that's

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Speaker 1: not happening today, but well it was happening yesterday. Just

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Speaker 1: the idea that mister iron Man had to sit there

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Speaker 1: and say, no, I'm not going to leave the team

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Speaker 1: tomorrow to go goa to my alma mater is just absurd.

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Speaker 1: But you think two years from now he would give

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Speaker 1: it a thought. Okay, here's I'm just asking. Here's the

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Speaker 1: and you would hope he thinks about this. What's the

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Speaker 1: most difficult thing to do to become a college head

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Speaker 1: coach when you've never coached before? Time management, for sure,

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Speaker 1: putting together a staff, Yeah, and that staff will save

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Speaker 1: your butt. And he doesn't. I don't know if he

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Speaker 1: has enough connections. I mean, he's he gonna get Tony

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Speaker 1: rom would to come and be his quarterback coach. George

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Speaker 1: Tigue is out there, or Colombo, maybe your offensive line coach. Sperrano.

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Speaker 1: He loves Sperrano. We've already had discussions. I will be

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Speaker 1: leaving to Knoxville to be there. So it's been bloomed

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Speaker 1: to be his defensive line coach. Her West is from

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Speaker 1: that area or West. Piece of staff together, Mick, I

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Speaker 1: think you know what, actually, you know what you should do.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about the coaching part. Just get some big

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Speaker 1: names to help recruit. Yeah, like get Evan Smith to

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Speaker 1: walk into somebody's living Immant. Smith's son's already getting recruited

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Speaker 1: by Georgia. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen I've seen him up

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Speaker 1: close to personal Mickey Spagnola, quality control. Yeah, operation sid.

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Speaker 1: He just tells no to everyone's ESPN. Nah, not this week,

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Speaker 1: get away time working here. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: I don't I think I think getting a staff together

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Speaker 1: like he might get out coached. The thing about it is,

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Speaker 1: though he could he could lean on. I'm sorry, Tam,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking time away from your show. This was fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm I'm sitting there thinking though that

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys. I mean, he's a Tennessee guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's true. I mean, I'll say this coaching is

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I spoke to his brother Sean Witten for

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Speaker 1: about an hour for a story I did in training camp.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to tell me yesterday you

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Speaker 1: were tracking. No, No, I'm not tracking. I was loving

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Speaker 1: where you're going with this. He's the head coach now

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Speaker 1: at Elizabethan where they're from, and took over for their

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Speaker 1: for their granddad, and like it's just what they grew

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Speaker 1: see it integrity. Yeah, that's a great story. If they

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Speaker 1: see it. But I mean it was just crazy yesterday

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Speaker 1: still committed to the Cowboys for the final five games

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Speaker 1: of the season. Come on, final five games of the season.

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Speaker 1: Way to think that there's no playoff? Cha, captain plus

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Speaker 1: plus into January maybe, huh, I said the captain of

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Speaker 1: the team. Yes see you guys, Well there is some

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Speaker 1: real news here, guys. Of course, Jerry spoke this morning

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Speaker 1: and had a very roundabout answer of Shawn Lee's status.

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Speaker 1: I think you you posted it best, Yeah, he said. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be back soon. Don't know what

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Speaker 1: soon is, but back soon, giants, I believe, not not Mickey.

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Speaker 1: Mickey said this three games ago. It was gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard for him to be back in twelve days and

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Speaker 1: they just, you know, the way the schedule fell for him. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: a chance. They're gonna wait because he's got two more days, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think their game. I think it's another one

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Speaker 1: But the question was asking a good one from Todd Archer.

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Speaker 1: You want no? I want Lyle Collins if he can play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that Spyron Bell at right tackle

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Speaker 1: their little under the bar routine. Elsie's still young players

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying. But if he has the experience like

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Speaker 1: Byron Smith, could he sit out all week and then

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Speaker 1: out there on the practice report, yes, or ankle yeah,

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Speaker 1: think it'd be interesting when we do these the inactives.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if I could put Switzer on that inactive list. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can't put Darren McFadden on there. Yeah, but no,

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Speaker 1: I'm yeah, you put Trey Williams. Trey Wayne absolutely. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know you're, I know you're he's giving you some

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Speaker 1: to it, we're hearing about all these changes in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: what's Jordan Lewis's role going to be? You know, Jordan

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Speaker 1: Lewis returned kicks at Michigan, was pretty good at it.

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Speaker 1: which I think he will, I just don't think he's

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Speaker 1: Sound like they're going to really shake this thing up

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Speaker 1: just in the secondary. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: what moves? Okay, if you had to take if you

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Speaker 1: guys you have right now? How would you line them

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Speaker 1: mean a Woozier starting at left corner. Okay, a Woozia

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Speaker 1: starts the left corner for Mickey rob Yeah, that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: that makes sense right now. Yeah, okay, what about Scandrick

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Speaker 1: in the slot? Does that do anything for you? Put

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Speaker 1: him over there where he belongs on the right corner. Yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with it. Who you heard me say

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Speaker 1: Let him do one job, not playing on the outside.

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Speaker 1: And who's your slot corner? I just throw somebody in there. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're you're covering a pretty good slot. See they're not

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Speaker 1: your options, your options, and guys would be, would you

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Speaker 1: put Anthony Brown in there? Would you feel comfortable putting

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Speaker 1: him there? Brown? He's lost his job? Browner or Woods?

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Speaker 1: I think at this point maybe Brown, give him a

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Speaker 1: different type of role, let him prove himself a little

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Speaker 1: bit where he's there. He just hasn't played a lot there. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even going back to college, the thought, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he's not starting, then what's his role.

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Speaker 1: Mickey was right about him though about the zone stuff.

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Speaker 1: If you put him in the slot playing man, maybe

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Speaker 1: you give him a chance. The thing you have to

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Speaker 1: worry about is him playing hands handy guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: and holding and stuff like that, and all these have

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Speaker 1: You're putting him in the slot where you're exposing him

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Speaker 1: and have to run all over the field. But it's

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Speaker 1: better than playing him that way than playing him off

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Speaker 1: coverage in zone, which Mickey pointed out, Yes, to day

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be suits him very well. I just

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Speaker 1: feel like this matchup though, with the types of receivers

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Speaker 1: they work in space. I'm thinking Crowder I might rather

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Speaker 1: have Scandrick in the slot in this game and having

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Speaker 1: to play both. But that's just me. Well, he brought

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Speaker 1: up an interesting name, Woods. Would you want to put

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Speaker 1: Woods over there? He's played some of it. He's played yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they played him down. Obviously, he's better playing

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Speaker 1: beat them. Sure, And then guys, I know you guys

423
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Speaker 1: were curious how Mickey is looking so swaggy today. Yes,

424
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Speaker 1: what is this? It's a beautiful sweatshirt at the shop

425
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Speaker 1: here during Cyber Week. Oh, I like the Bickie Many helmet.

426
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Speaker 1: Is modeling and Brian is also model. Yes, the color

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Speaker 1: Rush hat that looks fantastic. No color to it, but

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Speaker 1: it's the color Rush hat they will be wearing. Color

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Speaker 1: Rush performs on Thursday. Might cause my cleats were nice job.

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Speaker 1: Thank god. The Color Rush is white, not some BS

431
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Speaker 1: color that some of these teams wear. But those are

432
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Speaker 1: their team colors. Yeah, they're ugly, they're just accentuated. Yeah,

433
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: give an example making color. It's not a color, it's

434
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Speaker 1: the absence of it is the absence of the absence. Well,

435
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: then maybe that's what they need. That's a nice color.

436
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Speaker 1: This is really nice. Does anybody else wear all white? Yeah?

437
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: Raiders did. The Raiders did against Kansas City. Think in

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Speaker 1: honor of Al Davis. I don't know. I don't think

439
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen the Raiders wear all white before. Al

440
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 1: Davis member is warm up suits all white. I interviewed

441
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Speaker 1: with the man most fascinating interviews I've ever had. Oh,

442
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: we teased it and he has some hot fire for

443
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: the Ezeki Elliott knowledge. Of course, everyone keeps questioning why

444
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: are the Cowboys so bad without Zieki Elliott? Okay, so

445
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: how many games has he missed? Three? Three? Right now?

446
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: So his rushing stat is still seven hundred and eighty

447
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: three yards. Where does that put him in the ranking?

448
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: He is sixth okay, sixth overall, but he's only a

449
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Speaker 1: hundred and seven yards away from being second. Yeah, so

450
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: let that sink into the impact he has on the

451
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Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. And on top of that, more facts coming

452
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Speaker 1: at you straight fire. When he left out of the

453
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Speaker 1: theme of the program today, when he left, he was

454
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Speaker 1: second in scoring nine kickers to Todd Gurley. Yeah. Right now,

455
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: having a pretty good year. Right now he's third. He

456
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Speaker 1: has fifty four points. Second is fifty six, and he's

457
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: missed three games, and and he played a game week

458
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Speaker 1: two where he had what eight carries for nine yards? Yes,

459
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Speaker 1: so me accentuate how much they miss his presence if

460
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Speaker 1: those are the numbers he posted in ten games or

461
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Speaker 1: eight games, and no one else hardly has passed him

462
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Speaker 1: what he's doing, So they didn't just lose a Kelly Thompson,

463
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Speaker 1: whoever are other running back that got hurt? They lost

464
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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and it's significant. Well I just said that.

465
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Speaker 1: Brian got on me because you can't it's next man up. Yeah,

466
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Speaker 1: it is next next man up, ain't Ezekiel Elliott. But

467
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Speaker 1: this whole season, every time there was like, oh ze

468
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna play, and we did the lawyer talk here, he's like, well,

469
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Speaker 1: this team is well prepared without him. They have two

470
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Speaker 1: one thousand yard backs behind him. Have one. Now, I know,

471
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Speaker 1: but that's what we heard. But you know what a

472
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Speaker 1: thousand yard back is. Somebody to average is seventy eight

473
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Speaker 1: yards a game. That's a thousand yard back. It's not

474
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Speaker 1: good enough here though. The average seventy eight yards a

475
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: game is not good enough here right now. And everybody,

476
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: everybody kept with the noble thing of yeah, next guy up,

477
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: and that shouldn't matter. But then you started hearing a

478
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: little tippy toeing yesterday about yeah, we've run the ball,

479
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Speaker 1: but we haven't been as efficient or we haven't been

480
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: as effective. Well, I think they haven't run the ball

481
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Speaker 1: in the end zone and they haven't broken off big

482
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Speaker 1: plays in the running game, which is the threat of Zeke.

483
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: You look at the Chargers game longest run nine Rod

484
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Speaker 1: Smith Alfred Morris had a couple twenty yard runs, one

485
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Speaker 1: against Atlanta one against Philly. But it's that threat of

486
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Speaker 1: the big play. Because the running game hasn't been bad,

487
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Speaker 1: it's been solid. It's just that threat of he can

488
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Speaker 1: take you to the house at any time. It was

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Speaker 1: solid in twenty fifteen, didn't matter, right, So yeah, it's

490
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: hollow yards. Offensive line, Mick Right, I think the offensive

491
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Speaker 1: lines get a lot to do with that. And you

492
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: certainly didn't like the way the offensive line looked early

493
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Speaker 1: in the week when three fifths of it was missing.

494
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: It looked like a preseason game. Huh. Well, you're facing

495
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Speaker 1: potentially a fourth straight game where it's not your starting

496
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Speaker 1: five if Leo can't go, and then you got Tyrn

497
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: who's been kind of fighting through things. They haven't had

498
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: their lineup, so you gotta just better hope Zach Martin

499
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Speaker 1: has his wits about him. Sounded like he's gonna be okay. Yeah,

500
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: it did, but again, you've got guys playing not practicing.

501
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: You're still dealing with Jonathan Cooper that hasn't been as

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Speaker 1: consistent as you would like at left guard, and Tyrant

503
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Speaker 1: Smith is playing through that groin muscle I'm proud of

504
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Speaker 1: you for saying the offensive line, by the way, because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people wouldn't do that. It's I said

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Speaker 1: it the other day. I mean probably longer the best

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Speaker 1: offensive line, and that that that is, that is that

508
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: is a statement that a lot of people wouldn't make.

509
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: And it's but he's absolutely right, He's absolutely right. And

510
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: and Dak's playing paying the price right now. Yeah, and

511
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: you know DA's you know, he's he's right. I mean,

512
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: he's having to he's having to make some throws that

513
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Speaker 1: he's not accustomed to make. And yet who can help him? Obviously,

514
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: you are what you are at offensive. You're going to

515
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Speaker 1: get him back for the Seattle game. You are what

516
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: you are? Yeah, yeah, yeah that that get to wait.

517
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: The guy in Cabo right now, that's probably you know,

518
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: no telling what he's doing, but he he's working out,

519
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: not really Mickey, but you know, we'll go there. But

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00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that's really what he needed. That's

521
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: all he needs to fix up these patches. I think

522
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: this whole team needs Ezekiel. There is a reason why

523
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: they picked him where they picked him. That that is,

524
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Speaker 1: they picked this guy for Tony Romo to try and

525
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: help the running game. They tried to help him with

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. They try I had to help it

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00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: for transition too into whoever else they were going to

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Speaker 1: play at quarterback and the defense. And because because what

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00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: d Mirnelli's signed off on this, what they tried to

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Speaker 1: do was replicate what DeMarco Murray did for them in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen as a guy, because Murray did a lot

532
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: of the same things in terms of ball control, offense,

533
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Speaker 1: run first, keep your defense off the field. And it

534
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: worked and they won twelve games. Yeah, but this makes sense. Yeah,

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00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean, really, that's that's why we have to keep

536
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Speaker 1: harping on twenty one. And it's no disrespect to the

537
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Speaker 1: running other running backs on his team, but he was

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00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: drafted to help everybody on the football team. Don't you

539
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: think he helped out the locker room too, And that

540
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: may sound insignificant. He added some comic. It's just kind

541
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: of goofy, yeah, energy and and and I think guys

542
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: looked at it jumping in the kettle. Yeah, I mean,

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00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Witten thought that he was the

544
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Speaker 1: funniest thing in the world, right, you know, when he'd

545
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: go by and see Witton doing his day, his w

546
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: press conference, and he'd walk by and goes, oh, there's

547
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: old man Whitton talking to the media, you know, and

548
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Whitten would crack up and he would just do Remember

549
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: how he used to run through the locker room like

550
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: he was avoiding tacklers, just goofy. But you gotta have

551
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Speaker 1: something in this game to juice you up. It's also

552
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Speaker 1: the physical tone he sets on the field. Well, yeah,

553
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: I understand that, but the locker room part two. Yeah,

554
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: but that part can't be overstated because I think it

555
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: pumps up the defense too. There's nobody goofy in the

556
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Speaker 1: locker room. You might be right, can't be goofy right now,

557
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: I know, but you have to sixteen games. It's hard

558
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: and things don't go right all the way that That

559
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: was one of Michael Irvin's best attributes. If you did

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Speaker 1: a poll, a secret poll in the locker room, would

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Speaker 1: you say that's their biggest problem? If the players. If

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Speaker 1: you gave a secret poll to the players, do you

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Speaker 1: think that would see they like they miss his presence. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: give give me one reason why the team has done

565
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: what it's on this year. Would it be Do you

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Speaker 1: think he would be nine of the players would say

567
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Speaker 1: if they were like honest and it was under no,

568
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: it's an anonymous poll. Do you think I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Those guys got amigos in there, and that's all fair

570
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Speaker 1: because they're NFL players. They may say it's distractions off

571
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Speaker 1: the field. I'm not going to say another man distractions.

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00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: Oh mickey, what distractions? Anthem? Jerry Z? The anthem was

573
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Speaker 1: their own. The anthem never became a distraction. It did

574
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Speaker 1: it for one game and they won it. Three weeks

575
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Speaker 1: of Jerry Jones closed door meeting. What does this mean?

576
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Speaker 1: How is the team against and they won? It's amazing

577
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Speaker 1: that one player would affect the outcome of really your

578
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Speaker 1: whole scene. But that's that's what I said yesterday, Like,

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Speaker 1: can you think of a player ever? Michael Irvin wasn't

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Speaker 1: a quarterback really nineteen ninety nine. Emmett Smith though, Yeah,

581
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Speaker 1: when he went down that that was the end of

582
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. We're talking about my first year, ten and six.

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Speaker 1: The year before that's won the division and then three

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00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: and oz to start the seasons, and then they finished

585
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Speaker 1: eight and were the Texans. Yatch the text last years,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, when they've been kind of rolling and

587
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: then walk goes down. Well, look what happened with the

588
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: Raiders last year in the playoffs when Derek Carr went down.

589
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders are rolling along and they go

590
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: play in Houston and they have no quarterback has to

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Speaker 1: start the quarterback And yeah, other than a quarterback I've

592
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Speaker 1: seen with Rodgers this year when Peyton Manning got hurt

593
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: in Indy, they created went one in fifteen right out him.

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Speaker 1: The same team besides him, but not a quarterback who

595
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: has his ball in his hands every time. It's Look

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Speaker 1: what happened in ninety six when Michael got suspended for

597
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: the first was it four or six games? Is that word?

598
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Speaker 1: As you go back to with like the emotional leadership

599
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: type thing, he wasn't and he wasn't in the locker room, yeah,

600
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, or go back and look, and you know

601
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: they were dragging until he signed right before the start

602
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: of the there was still nine or two or ninety

603
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Speaker 1: three season. I can't remember, and I'll never forget Michael

604
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Speaker 1: showing up after he finally signed, like a Thursday before

605
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: the season opener, and in Friday, he got in the

606
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: locker room totally undressed and walked from one end to

607
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: the other yelling to everybody did you miss seeing this body?

608
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: You know? And everybody cracked up and it was like

609
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: back to old times, right. Well, that was after a suspension.

610
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: I felt like there was some awkwardness when Zeke was

611
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: still there and a lot of people didn't know. I

612
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: mean there were days that he'd be in the locker

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Speaker 1: room and the media couldn't talk to him, even though

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Speaker 1: he was rules right. So they won though Taylor, they won.

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Speaker 1: They didn't start losing until he left. They lost to

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Speaker 1: the Packers. Well, but they were competitive rams, Absolutely, they

617
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Speaker 1: were competed. They were five and three. Yeah. The only

618
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: game with that there was no competition feeling was the

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Speaker 1: Broncos game and he was in it and I looked

620
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Speaker 1: it up. By the way, there's they're they're the only

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Speaker 1: team this season to go three straight games with single

622
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Speaker 1: digit points. There's not another team in the league that's

623
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Speaker 1: done that. There's been a two or three that it's

624
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: been two games in a row, not even the Browns.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's why I say there they are better

626
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Speaker 1: than that. They have more. I know what you're saying, Brian,

627
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: You got a second guess everything at this point, Personnel

628
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: and stuff. But they they still have talent on this offense.

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Speaker 1: They can get to ten points. They can do it.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do it Thursday. I believe. I

631
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Speaker 1: believe it. It's hard watching this offense play. It's awkward,

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Speaker 1: it's very hard. It reminds me. It reminds me my

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Speaker 1: years when I was in the sky department here in

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Speaker 1: the early two thousands, where you're just every every every

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Speaker 1: third down was just a hold your breath play. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's just no no rhythm to what you're how you're

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00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: moving the foot. And that's the way defenses are playing.

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00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: They're saying, if you're gonna beat me, you're gonna drive

639
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: eighty yards in fourteen plays, right way giving you anything

640
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: big because we don't think you can. You can hurt

641
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: us at some point you will employ And every time

642
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have had problems offensively, that's what teams have

643
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: done when they haven't had somebody to threaten it. And

644
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: that's where you go back to your column yesterday about

645
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: and I read it chunk plays. That's the lifeblood of

646
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: this league, right, I mean, that's the difference in it.

647
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: In the LA game, they had eight of twenty plus

648
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: passing yards Cowboys. I think they have like two or

649
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: three and three games. Yeah, you know, they've just got

650
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: to get the ball down the field. Good luck if

651
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: you can't protect. Yeah, yeah, that's that's why it all

652
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: goes to exactly. Yeah, if all of a sudden it

653
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Speaker 1: turns into Ryan Kerrigan and Preston Smiths screaming off the corner,

654
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: good luck with that, you know very well, easily could Yeah,

655
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Speaker 1: if you know they're not going to respect you running

656
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: the football, they're really not. And then you're forced to

657
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: throw everything underneath and you're just going plotting along blop

658
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: blop bloop, and then if you get a penalty, yeah,

659
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: then you're dead. You can't. First it's twenty it's bad

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00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: enough that they can't overcome a legal motion penalty five

661
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: extra yards. You know, usually with Zeke it was like, okay,

662
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: we'll get the five back on this area and then

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00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: second down, okay, no, run it again, and now it's

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Speaker 1: second and four or third and four, and now you

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00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: have them, you know, manageable down to distance. It's it's

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Speaker 1: very similar to twenty fifteen without Romo, where it just

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00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: it's such an effort to get down the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: without him and now without Zeke, yeah, and with and

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Speaker 1: compromising your protection too. And no, I agree with you, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: you completely. I don't know if if you felt that.

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00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: I do agree. I think there's an energy missing from

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Speaker 1: this team. And I think you make a great point

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00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: with the locker room, the making the lightheartedness of it.

674
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Because it is a sixteen game season. They've been in

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Speaker 1: training camp since July. Yeah, and here you are November

676
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: and you're frustrated and you're mad, and you've seen these

677
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: people way more than your family and friends. You have

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00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: to have that spark. And I think you're you're true,

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00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: Mickey in the sense that Zeke brought that and you

680
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: could laugh at him. But the thing, I think you're

681
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: right too, because there have been guys that I've seen

682
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: that have been goofy and funny, but they weren't great players.

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00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: Ezekiel is a great player and Michael Irvin is a

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00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: great player. So you see these guys being goofy, and

685
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: you're like, that's cool, because on Sunday that guy's gonna

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Speaker 1: show up, yeah, and he's gonna be a dominant force.

687
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: And the other team is afraid of that guy. But

688
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: I got him in my locker room. Yeah, so I

689
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: think you're very true. I think they're missing that. I

690
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: think they're missing the come on guys. Yeah, like you

691
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: keep saying they're better than this, and he don't wanna

692
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: be like, man, we're not losing anymore. It seems like

693
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: they're a team that is expecting the worst. You know,

694
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: you got you gotta shake yourself out of that. Yeah,

695
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: it just seems like that they're always expecting the worst now,

696
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: and that's and that is a problem. That's that that's

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00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff to shake them out of it.

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00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: If that's indeed the way they're feeling, that's why, and

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00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: Mary Ellie spoke to it. We got to teach him

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Speaker 1: during the week, feel comfortable, play fast, all those things.

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00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's yeah, that comes down to the work

702
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Speaker 1: week and how to shake him out of that. We'll

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Speaker 1: Do you know why Papa John's pizza tastes so great? Ah?

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Speaker 1: something that always cheers us up here and brings all

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Speaker 1: the energy for us is Rob's twitter poll. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this one will because it's about improvements and

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Speaker 1: adjustments and how the Cowboys can jump start the rest

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Speaker 1: of the season. Got four options. Which area do they

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00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: need to improve the most? Coaching was not one of them.

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00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: I think the fans weren't happy with that. Sure, it

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Speaker 1: all goes. Hey, coaching goes into all four of these answers.

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Speaker 1: You gotta coach them. Oh you gotta have a write in? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got him. Coach can write it in if you want.

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Speaker 1: Mick number one pass defense. We talked about the secondary

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Speaker 1: in the first segment passing game with Dak getting is

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Speaker 1: going down the field pass rush. Marcus Lawrence said, I

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00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: gotta get to the quarterback quicker or the running game

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Speaker 1: without Ezekiel Elliott, which is the biggest area they've got

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Speaker 1: to improve. You get to win on Thursday. Of those four, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know what I voted for. I voted for the

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Speaker 1: past defense. I don't think you can go into a

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Speaker 1: game and give up another five hundred yards. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mickey said that they got five hundred yards on twenty

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Speaker 1: two points on five hundred yards basically, but I mean

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Speaker 1: twenty two points would have been enough to win the

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Speaker 1: game too. So I just don't think you can give

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Speaker 1: up a bunch of huge plays. I don't think you

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Speaker 1: could give up a bunch of players on third down.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe the offense will figure things out,

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00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: maybe they will get some protection, Maybe the running game

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00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: will open up some things. Maybe Dak will find a

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Speaker 1: you know, some shots down the field with des Des

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00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: tends to play better against these guys. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that if you if you're you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a reason why they're they're all The competition is in

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Speaker 1: the secondary for positions. They feel like their past defense

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00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: isn't good enough. It's a great point pass rush. They've

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00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: had one sack in these three losses, haven't gotten quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: on the ground, And I think that would help out

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Speaker 1: the past defense if you get some pressure up front.

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Speaker 1: Because if you look at what they had done, I

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Speaker 1: believe it was the previous four games they had fifteen

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Speaker 1: sacks one yeah, one in three games. Yeah, been a problem.

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00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 1: That's a problem, no doubt. And Mickey's right because even

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Speaker 1: though he was a little salty, Scandrick made a really

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Speaker 1: good point last night when he was talking about it,

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Speaker 1: and he said, man, I had it so easy my

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Speaker 1: first few years as a cowboy because I had an

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Speaker 1: excellent pass rush. He said, there wasn't even time for

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Speaker 1: the quarterback to get the ball back in my area

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Speaker 1: because they were already on the ground. Makes a huge

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Speaker 1: difference for the entire team. Juice. Everyone gets juiced up

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Speaker 1: on a big time sack. I think his rookie year,

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Speaker 1: they led the league in sacks two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: I think they had almost sixty sixty sacks. Hey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was on a top defense, no doubt. But it

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00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: only went nine and seven. Yeah, thanks to their backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, yet, I

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00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: think that goes hand in hand if you have just

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Speaker 1: that dominating front seven, that nobody can get passed. So

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Speaker 1: are you voting for the past rush. I'm voting for

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Speaker 1: just defensive line because I miss Shaun Lee a lot too.

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Speaker 1: I know we've talked at exhaust about how much Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: is missing from this team. But Sean Lee's a guy

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Speaker 1: you look to and you're like, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: let him down, even though he's still on that sideline. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go hold d line. I know that's

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Speaker 1: not on there, and I'm saying right in, right in

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Speaker 1: for Tay. Okay, fifty two say passing game with Dak

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Speaker 1: with the receivers down the field, pass defense twenty six percent,

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Speaker 1: followed by the run game at fifteen percent. Well you

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Speaker 1: could say all the above and you need it to

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Speaker 1: write in offensive line. Yeah. The thing about it is

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Speaker 1: it's funny when they play the Redskins. The Redskins put

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Speaker 1: up huge numbers but don't never win. They don't score points,

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Speaker 1: but they don't win. Yeah. Yeah, that's been the problem.

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Speaker 1: And they put up some and maybe they'll do it again.

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Speaker 1: And they've got as many injury problems. Yeah, there's what

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Speaker 1: your past us has a chance. They've got eleven Joe

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Speaker 1: and you know guys like that I wrote about them.

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Speaker 1: You oh yeah, you know, you know Leek Collins. You know,

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Speaker 1: here's another guy I talked about, potential first time Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl type player could be up during the sack numbers.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is a game where he gets one and

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Speaker 1: a half or two going against the guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: a backup guy. They've got eleven guys that are listed

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Speaker 1: as limited or did not practice. Of the eleven, five

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Speaker 1: didn't practice and one, two, three, five or offensive lineman. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're still dealing with Trent Williams knee, Brandon Shurf knee.

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Speaker 1: He played last week against the limited in practice he

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Speaker 1: played Chase Rulier. Yes, they didn't burst Berkstrom played the

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Speaker 1: Giants game at center, and then Niseki uh limited. He

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Speaker 1: was starting ling his core muscle, and then Morgan Moses

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00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: another tackle was limited and he's got three things knee, ankle,

842
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: and ankle. They've put fifteen players on IR this year.

843
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: I think the forty nine ers got the most at twenty.

844
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot. Yeah, but yeah, if you can, Hey,

845
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: it's another one of those games where can you affect

846
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins throwing the ball that helps the past defense

847
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: if you can surely get the pressure you guys are wanting.

848
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: They were a will do that in the game. You

849
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: know when they played last time, they were able to

850
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: effect the way. I don't see the Redskins trying to

851
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: run the football at all. To be honest with you, Hey,

852
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: Giants affected him. He got sacked six times on Thanksgiving. Yeah,

853
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: General's Jenkins with a pick six. So I mean, yeah,

854
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: you got you got a pressure. And the Cowboys need takeaways.

855
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: I've talked about it on the blueprint. They're minus six.

856
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: They're in this three game losing streak, and a lot

857
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: of that's on Dak. I mean he can't, he can't

858
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, but they've the turnovers were coming

859
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: in bunches for this defense before this three game losing streak,

860
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know if how much of it is

861
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: defense offenses, they're you know, they can play a little

862
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: closer to the chess when they've got the lead, you know,

863
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: not take as many chances. Thanks for doing that, Rob,

864
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Let's get to wait to go, Rob. We're

865
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: all friends here. It's funny because but the fan, the

866
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: fans all thought that was throwing the football. Yeah, Price,

867
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: they're worried more about Dak and Daz. That seems to

868
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: be the big thing because because Romo, Romo and Dez

869
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: that relationship. Now, like Laurent Robinson was an elite receiver

870
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: when he had Romo and you're gonna waste Dez Bryant's prime.

871
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah it's okay, Yeah, it's Elvis in Midland is on

872
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: the line. What is your question? Elvis? Just a couple

873
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: of quick comments and I'll get out of here. Thumbs

874
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: up to Chris Jones. Unfortunately, best player on the field

875
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: right now. Sure, Unfortunately. I think that's a great thing. Yeah, yeah,

876
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: thumbs down to the entire defensive scheme. I feel like

877
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: it's too simple and the players aren't good enough to

878
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: to compete with it. One on two, I agree with

879
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: you on In addition, you guys just happened to be

880
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: talking about Scandrick. But I've been trying to call for

881
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: a few weeks. I'm just a guy sitting on my couch.

882
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: But Scander does not want to tackle. He's scared of

883
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: or doesn't want to hit, and if he does, he's hurt.

884
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: It seems like he makes a tackle one out about twenty.

885
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: So for this guy to be a captain and to

886
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: be barking at other people, I thinking he's a look

887
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: in the mirror because I see I see fear out there.

888
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: The last thing I think Garrett has two winning seasons

889
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: when he's the full time head coach. And I know

890
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: it's hard for you guys to work there and call

891
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: for his job, but I think the fans are tired

892
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: of it and restless. The water is dirty. It's time

893
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: for to throw him out. Thank you, thank you. Concise.

894
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: So you said one of two, Brian, I'm assuming that

895
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: you're agreeing with the Chris Jones analysis. No. No. One

896
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: of two of he was talking about the about the

897
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: defense and the Marinis. I think the scheme is still viable.

898
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: I think that they're just not playing very well in it,

899
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: you know. And I think I mean, did he see

900
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: how many times they tried blitzing? Yeah, they didn't get there.

901
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: They're trying to get guys home. I mean they're trying.

902
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: They were trying to effect the way the Philip Rivers.

903
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has only been sacked twelve times coming into

904
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: that game, and so yeah, it was gonna be difficult,

905
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: but they tried to affect him. They couldn't get they

906
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: couldn't get anybody home. They or they blitz Scandrick off

907
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: the edge and Rivers knows it's coming and he does

908
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: what he's done his whole career. Is that so what

909
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: hangs to that side? Yeah, hangs in there, takes the hit,

910
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: makes a big play down the field, but the ball

911
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: did come out quicker from you know. The one thing though,

912
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: and his final point about the head coaching situation is

913
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: the owner, general manager, he gives us a lot of

914
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: leeway on this, on this, on our platforms to say

915
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: what we want to say. I mean, I should have

916
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: been gone a long time ago if that wasn't the case.

917
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: So I'll disagree with him on that point that you know,

918
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: if that's how he feels, that's how he feels. But

919
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, I think Mickey's made some great points her

920
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: last few days about the offensive line and the overall

921
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: talent level and that that I look on myself and

922
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: the evaluation. You know that when you look at your

923
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: team and you say, are we good enough? Can we

924
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: withstand injury and we protect ourselves? Now? They they haven't,

925
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: They haven't played well enough, And maybe that could say,

926
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, you needed the runner, you needed the quarterback,

927
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: you needed a lot of things to happen to win

928
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: thirteen games last year, but you know you're not doing

929
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: that this year. Often wonder why when people accused us

930
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, why do they listen or why do

931
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: they read on Twitter? If they don't like our opinions?

932
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: Why do you I wouldn't feel all somebody. I don't

933
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: think he I don't think he's questioning our opinion. I

934
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: think he was saying it was difficult for us to

935
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: have to make that call. Well, then he doesn't listen enough.

936
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: Then that that that that's my disagreement there. But I

937
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: thought his points were valid in a lot of areas. Yes,

938
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: and they're frustrated. They should be frustrated. Hey, we were

939
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: just talking about college coaches. I would never want to

940
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: be a college coach because you talk about fans getting

941
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: restless in about five seconds. Heck, someone had what winning

942
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: seasons every year he was there, but Bay he took

943
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: the program to a different height and now it's not

944
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: good enough. And you know, yeah, this is what I learned.

945
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: I learned this from John Gruden. You know, I asked

946
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: John Igo and this after he got fired at Tampa,

947
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: and I say, man, I'm sorry. He goes, don't feel

948
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: sorry for me. I say why, I mean, you lost

949
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: your jobbies. That guy's got to pay me fifteen million dollars.

950
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: They get buyas that are real nice. No, not every

951
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: coach gets that, but coach Summerlin in sixty days, now

952
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: fifty eight days, Rob's university has got to come up

953
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: with ten point four million. Yeah, so you know there's

954
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: I still feel bad for him, but but no, but

955
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: thinking that's why some of these coaches, you see him

956
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: and when the pressure starts to happen and they get

957
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: the smile on their face and they're kind of like,

958
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: you know what if you fire me, you gotta pay me.

959
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: And so I learned that from John Gruden. But yeah,

960
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: there's some assistant. Now. The support people don't make fifteen

961
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: million dollars, but you know, and if coaches lives get affected.

962
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: But the way that day and age of this way

963
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: athletics are nowadays, if you let go in, you're in.

964
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: You're a head coach. You're well compensated for getting letting go.

965
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: Would you retire? Absolutely, Somebody handed you ten point four

966
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: million dollars in fifty eight days. It's a spirit of competition.

967
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: Guys can call me at the lake if you need me.

968
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm gone Costa Rica. Yeah, maybe the bars open up,

969
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: you guys, come on down here some cool beer. I

970
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: mean maybe that was Jason Witten's playing. Go there, get fired,

971
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: and then make a ton of money the next two years.

972
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: Come down. We'll have some call chowder. We'll do we'll

973
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: do it up. Yeah, I'm moving to Italy. Yeah exactly.

974
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: I'll see you there, big guy. Yeah, so Gruden said it.

975
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I'm really sorry. Guys, what are

976
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: you sorry about? Because Glazers to me fifteen Yeah, I'm

977
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: on Monday night football now living the life. Hey, he's

978
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: gonna get a villa in Tuscany right next to you. Yeah,

979
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: and and buts. But what what Brian said is what

980
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: people don't think about. It's not just someone getting fired. Yeah,

981
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: it's a tire of coaching staff or it's supports staff

982
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: or and these people ain't making that kind of money.

983
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: They're not that they're out of job. That's what you

984
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: feel sorry for. And they got they gotta move, don't

985
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: get me, that's what you feel sorry for. Ye see,

986
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like the guy Mike Riley, Mike

987
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: Riley is one of the nicest men I've ever been

988
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: around in my life. Absolutely, and and in Nebraska taken

989
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a month for

990
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: the next three years. I'd be with Mickey and Italy.

991
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: I would have a hell of a wine cellar. I

992
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: was just getting ready to say that I would try

993
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: every wine the heads right now. You mean you need

994
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: me to be like you need me to write for

995
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: the paper hat parts. I'm sure, Yeah, I'll I'll cover

996
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: football for you. They get your connection in Lake Como.

997
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah you might, Yeah, you might need something that does

998
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: anybody ever ever heard of anybody in Italy getting arrested

999
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: for a d WI Never? They walk everywhere, right, yeah, yeah,

1000
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: you walk? You walk? Are you get one of those boats? Right?

1001
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: A train on the boat? Yeah? Fun, fact you got there.

1002
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: That's a kind of a bad way to look at them.

1003
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: You need to go see if we can go get

1004
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: a d W either in Italy. Oh my gosh. No,

1005
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: I would not drive the way those people drive. You

1006
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: couldn't get me they do or by Vicky would get

1007
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: hit by Vespa on the bike. Well, guys on the

1008
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: bright the cowboys and when the NFC is still and

1009
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: how can they do it? Rob tell us you have

1010
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: that stat Yeah, I do. You have to lose every

1011
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: game they can win their last five games in a row,

1012
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: and the Eagles can go oh for five in the

1013
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: last five games of the season, and the Cowboys come

1014
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: out on top. Lloyd Christmas Lloyd Christmas Kent what's the

1015
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 1: Eagles record now? Ten and one, saying there's a chance

1016
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: they could go ten and six, Yeah, and the Cowboys

1017
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: would go tenants. You'd have to win the last game,

1018
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: but you have to beat them. Well, they have to

1019
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: lose it if they're going to lose them all. Yeah,

1020
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: that's right, they're looking there. You have it optimism and excitement. Okay.

1021
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: So as far as the in the hunt, you're at

1022
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: the bottom of the pole, right, you're in the bottom. Yeah,

1023
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: you're five and six. You with the Packers rights, the Redskins. Okay,

1024
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: you're Packers Redskins. I can't keep them all there, Cowboys yeah, okay,

1025
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: So you're at the bottom of that thing. So who

1026
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: ahead of you? The only the only chance you've got

1027
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: somebody else's five and six Arizona. I think, yes. The

1028
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: only chance you have then is that you would have

1029
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: to have you win all your games, but you'd have

1030
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: to beat you'd have to beat Seattle because they're there

1031
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: are seven and four team, right, there. They are actually

1032
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: a playoff, but you would have to beat them to

1033
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: win all your games, right, yeah, and you'd have to

1034
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: beat the or you'd have to get ahead of the Lions.

1035
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: They would have to lose. And some of these teams

1036
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: probably are gonna play each other, right, some of these

1037
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: wild card hopefuls, so yeah, yeah, they're not out of it.

1038
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: Rams in Seattle have to play um, Carolina, and the

1039
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: Philadelphia has to play Seattle. Yeah, um this weekend at Seattle,

1040
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 1: right at Seattle. Yep. Yeah, leading a boom, No longer

1041
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: a booming. It's that third place schedule. Stop. No, this

1042
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: is actually NFC playing the NFC West. Yes, I guess, okay,

1043
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: first place schedule. No, they got the Bears and they

1044
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: got Carolinas, so that Carolina wasn't work out for much

1045
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: much of a break. How about the third place schedule

1046
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: you might get next year? Green Bay third place air quotes,

1047
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers back maybe opening day? No, it'll

1048
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: be the Giants at home? So what what what division

1049
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: do they have next year? The Southuth we get to

1050
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: go to New Orleans. Uh oh, making sad. Let's go

1051
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Speaker 1: to Houston, mickey, really yeah, quick road trip about that,

1052
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Speaker 1: and we get to go to Indie. Indy's another one. Now,

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Speaker 1: Indie's not bad. I love Indie. I love the Combine.

1054
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: If we can can't love to combine? Right, if you

1055
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 1: can stay downtown and where else? Wheber gril, weber grill.

1056
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Speaker 1: We get to go to the AFC cell. So you're

1057
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Speaker 1: gonna get We got Tennessee at home, I believe because

1058
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: we played there, Tennessee Tennessee here. Yes, you got Tennessee

1059
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: at home. And then you also went to Jacksonville. You

1060
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Speaker 1: played in London, So you're gonna get Jacksonville at home

1061
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: in London? No? No, oh here here? Maybe in London

1062
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: they haven't announced those games, right, Brian? Would you better

1063
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: text me the moment that you find out. Well, I don't.

1064
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: I mean I don't go on road trips anymore. Maybe

1065
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: I have to jump back in on that special thing

1066
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: here when those teams, when those teams get like trade

1067
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: off a home game to play in London, do they

1068
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: get the money in London as a home game and

1069
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: then they just share it with the visiting right Diderry

1070
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: ever do that? Would he sacrifice the home game and

1071
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: you go to Well you're not really sacrificing and want,

1072
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: from a financial standpoint, get a super Bowl? Would you

1073
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? To get to get the draft, to

1074
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: get the draft, would you do it? I mean, if

1075
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: you're hosting the game, it's your game. It would probably

1076
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: be a game where that was going to be scheduled

1077
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: at three twenty five. And he's sick of answering the

1078
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: questions about the sun, so he's like, hell, let's go

1079
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: to London. It will be cloudy there to announced that

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00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game got moved. Did you announce that? Yes,

1081
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game got flex Now Mickey will have to

1082
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: be home sooner to be back here, told me I

1083
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: was getting soft. He wants all seven thirty kicks. You

1084
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: like that, you get you get to get home early, Mickey, especially,

1085
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: that's the probably the longest rip, that's the longest flight

1086
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: other than Philadelphia, England. Yeah, I'll make sure you guys

1087
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: have a bottle of champagne on that flight home from Yeah, years,

1088
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: very thoughtful of it. I'll make sure that no, no, no, no,

1089
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: this is New York two weeks from now, philadelp he's

1090
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: talking the year New Year's Eve. You're coming home, but

1091
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: that's a noon game. Yeah, that's a neon game. Still

1092
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: you need a bottle of champagne on the plane home. Yeah,

1093
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: let's start it early, big guy. Don't be saying that

1094
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: the TSA might be listening. Oh really Yeah, sorry, Mickey

1095
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: doesn't drink on the plane. That's right. Mickey is such

1096
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: a great don't and I don't you know, yeah, shouldn't,

1097
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't drink. Yeah. Well, guys, it's been even when it

1098
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: was and you avoided to talk about everything. That's where

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Com crew. We'll have another show

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Speaker 1: for you tomorrow. Stay tuned for the time because it's

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Speaker 1: a Saturday here in the Cowboys world. So we will

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Speaker 1: be back on air tomorrow. Thank you, guys. This has

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