1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Topics featured in this episode may be disturbing to some listeners. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Please take care while listening. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: I want to ensure that nothing like this ever happens again. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm grateful to all that have shown me love and 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: compassion that this is the end of my story and 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: this doesn't have to define me the rest of my life. 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal, Episode three Ruins. 8 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Reports of Jason Litton's arrests were all over the local 9 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: news and on Facebook pages. Aveya, Ashley's oldest daughter and 10 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: a victim, found out when her friend's mother asked her 11 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: if anyone else had been videotaped in the house. Ashley's 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: fifteen year old son would stoic and refused to discuss it. 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: She tried to explain what happened to her youngest, but 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: it was a lot for a nine year old to understand. 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: The way that Ashley said was like, Daddy is in trouble. 16 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: He's in jail for doing something he wasn't supposed to do, 17 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: and she just went off the rails, like asking all 18 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: of these questions, like am I going to see him again? 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 4: What does that mean? Is he going to be gone forever? 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: How do you explain this to a nine year old? 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 4: Her dad was taken away. 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 5: Her kids lost their dad, and she lost her husband. 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 4: It's like he died. 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 6: He was like my security blanket. He didn't do much 25 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 6: for me but make me feel safe and make me 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 6: feel just He was there, and I don't know, I 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 6: just I just really really missed my life. 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: In the aftermath, Ashley was just trying to hold on 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: and leaned on her best friend Emmy for support. 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 7: In an instant, he was gone. I still dream about it. 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 7: I still hear her. I still dream of holding her, 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 7: but to have to sit there and listen to that 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 7: and no, there was absolutely nothing I could do to 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 7: make her feel better, to change things. There was nothing 35 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 7: I could do. 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: During their marriage, Ashley recognized that things weren't normal, but 37 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: there's only so much you can do for a person. 38 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 8: I had told myself that there was a mental illness 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 8: going on, and he wouldn't go see anybody for it. 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Clearly Jason was dealing with something, but his poor behavior 41 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: had existed for most of his adult life. Jason had 42 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: made appalling choices at times, but Ashley always gave him 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. Candace Holden and her husband Jeff, 44 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: were good friends with Ashley and Jason. She shares a 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: very awkward encounter some years back and Candace just had 46 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: a baby girl that you might hear in the background. 47 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 9: My husband was playing football for us in my Pro 48 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 9: Football League and tour his ACL and partially towards he 49 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 9: had surgery on it. And it was a couple weeks 50 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 9: after his surgery that we drove to Salt Lake and 51 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 9: we were saying the night at Jason and Ashley's. They 52 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 9: had us in the basement and Jeff had like a 53 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 9: brand new bottle of pain pills with him. I want 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 9: to say that he had pulled it out to take 55 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 9: one when we were upstairs, so that's how I feel. 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 9: Jason knew that the bottle was with us, but we 57 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 9: went downstairs with it and we went to bed. The 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 9: next morning, half the bottle was gone. I went to 59 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 9: Ashley and she was like, no, no, he wouldn't. We 60 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 9: didn't need her to validate that. I just felt bad 61 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 9: that she believed his side so strongly. Jeff was frustrated, 62 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 9: so he went to Jason. He absolutely denied it, but 63 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 9: it didn't change the fact that literally half the bottle 64 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 9: was gone. In my opinion, when Jason would lie pres 65 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 9: surely about something big, he get like overly emotional. You know, 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 9: he's on the verge of crying, just kind of like 67 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 9: a little kid that gets in trouble and they start 68 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 9: crying because you don't believe them and they know they're busted, 69 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 9: but they're going to, you know, get upset because they 70 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 9: want you to believe them. That was always kind of 71 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 9: a red slade to me, like you're over doing this 72 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 9: innocence thing, which is just making me think that you're 73 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 9: more guilty. 74 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: Candas also recalls Jason's work ethic from his twenties. 75 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 9: My husband got him a job at the company that 76 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 9: he worked at, and they would car pull together and 77 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 9: he was constantly calling in sick or My husband was 78 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 9: going next door and knocking on the door to essentially 79 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 9: get him up in the morning to go to work. 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 9: And I just felt like, Ashley, could you know, have 81 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 9: somebody more self motivated in her life. 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 5: We've all been there. 83 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: We've heard our friends talk about relationships or their marriages 84 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: and deep down you feel like they deserve better. Until 85 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: they come to that realization themselves. 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 5: There isn't much you can do, but I spoke with. 87 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: Jessica Baum, who has been working with Ashley over the 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: past couple of months to help her learn more about herself. 89 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: Jessica is the author of Anxiously Attached, Becoming More Secure 90 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: in Life and Love. 91 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 10: I'm a psychotherapist with a license in mental health counseling 92 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 10: and I have a private practice. We work on family 93 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 10: systems issues, trauma, addiction, and couples. 94 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Jessica also specializes in attachment styles what draws us towards 95 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: and keeps us with another person, And like many of 96 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: our traits, those tendencies are established in childhood. 97 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: It appears that she has a lot of childhood trauma. 98 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 10: Her dad was pretty overwhelmed and her mom was pretty sick, 99 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 10: so she played different roles in her family system. She 100 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 10: also was parentified and took care of her mom and 101 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 10: took a caretaking role, and she also had a role 102 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 10: of acting out to get her needs met. But none 103 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 10: of them were like really truly attuning to her needs 104 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 10: and seeing her in a healthy way. So I think 105 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 10: as soon as she was able to escape into her 106 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 10: first relationship, I'm sure that gave her a relief, and 107 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 10: much of her childhood was kind of escaping some of 108 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 10: what she wasn't ready to deal with or what was 109 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 10: really going on for her. So she adapted in many 110 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 10: different ways, and one of those ways was through relationships 111 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 10: and finding some relief initially through her relationships, which then 112 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 10: turned into really unhealthy patterns and strategies and a kind 113 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 10: of a nightmare. 114 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: Her first boyfriend, Matt, had been a kind of protector 115 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: when Ashley was at school. He made sure she had 116 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: a good school lunch every day, and he was her 117 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: happy place outside of home. Then he descended into addiction 118 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: and the relationship descended into chaos. 119 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 10: But in the beginning, it does provide her a sanctuary 120 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 10: or relief from her underlying core grief or wounds or 121 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 10: unmet needs. 122 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: And Jason was a person when Ashley had two small 123 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: children and was on her own. Her family said as 124 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: much when he first came into their lives. 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: I love Jason. You could just see how nice and 126 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: kind he. 127 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 5: Was to her. I thought, Wow, she's found a good guy. 128 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 6: It was like night chiming armor. I was like, here's 129 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 6: this normal dude that wants to be with me. 130 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Ashley's husband had stolen prescription pills from her friend lied 131 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: to his employer stayed alone in their bedroom for days 132 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: on end. Sure all of these were red flags adjacent 133 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: had problems, but they weren't deal breakers. 134 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: They couldn't be. 135 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 10: Even if our intuition or gut says this could be true, 136 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 10: or there might be some truth to that, there's a 137 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 10: very strong part of us that doesn't want to believe 138 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 10: something might be wrong for many reasons. And I can 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 10: tell you, for Ashley, a lot of her own denial, 140 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 10: even if underneath it there was an undercurrent of maybe 141 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 10: something's wrong. Is that if there is something wrong, her 142 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 10: whole world would shatter. And so in this world that 143 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 10: she created for her family and what she loved about 144 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 10: her world was very contingent on who he was when 145 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 10: he came into the relationship and what he did for 146 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 10: her and the safety that he provided for her. 147 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 5: Out of all the possibilities of what might. 148 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: Be going on with him, Jason viewing child pornography and 149 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: videotaping their daughter never crossed her mind. It just doesn't 150 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: enter the realm of possibility. 151 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 8: Not effort. When I had effort ever even considered anything 152 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 8: like this. 153 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: Evea had an order of protection against him, so he 154 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: went to live with a relative but that wasn't nearly 155 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: enough to make her feel safe. 156 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 4: So this is the Veya's room. 157 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 6: I don't like coming in here, and I avoidited it 158 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 6: for a long time because of how hard it was. 159 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: Ashley's home has a great layout for teenagers. The lower 160 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: floor has two bedrooms, a bathroom, and a den area, 161 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: so the older kids feel like they have a little privacy. 162 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: She showed me exactly how Jason violated. 163 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 5: It, just for reference. 164 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Her bedrooms almost in the basement, so her bedroom is 165 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: like an negress window. 166 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 6: And he would stand outside of this window and film her. 167 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: He told Ashley the reason he was going outdoors at 168 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: night was because he discovered a new stargazing. 169 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 6: App I just chalked it up as like another weird 170 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 6: thing that he was in. But he was so believable, 171 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 6: like he was dung ho about stars, and he was 172 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 6: telling the kids about this solar system and this star 173 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 6: pattern and showing them things like That's how manipulative he was. 174 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Seeing the layout of the house made the secret taping 175 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: seem even more insidious. 176 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 6: I don't understand. Our backyard is mud and backpool. I 177 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 6: avoided it all costs the only time I was back 178 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 6: there this year, was to spray off my air conditioner 179 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 6: make sure no weeds were grown around her. 180 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: Ashley tried to make the room feel more secure by 181 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: installing a frosted window so you can't see through it. 182 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 6: Then I'd have like a lock on it and everything, 183 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 6: because I wanted her to feel safe. 184 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: I wanted her. 185 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 6: To know that nobody's going to get in here. But 186 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 6: she still just couldn't deal with it. 187 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: Ashley's sister Anna, I mean, I think she left pretty 188 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: soon after we found out the extent of the videos. 189 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 5: Is it hard being in here? 190 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. It makes me cry because I miss 191 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 6: her so much. I just miss her. 192 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned Ashley's first love, Matt. They were together all 193 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: through high school until she was in her early twenties. 194 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: She ultimately took their two kids and left him because 195 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: of his drug addiction. Matt is clean now, and while 196 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: they visits Ashley's house often, she moved it with Matt 197 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: full time. They was afraid to sleep at ashe after 198 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: she learned what Jason had done. 199 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 11: He robbed them of stability, of structure of trust. I'm 200 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 11: so mad at him for that, and I hope one 201 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 11: day she could feel safe with my sister again. 202 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: One of the moms, she's my friend. 203 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 6: She reached out to me asking if any of their 204 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 6: kids were a part of it, which really sucked because 205 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 6: I still like super in shock. This particular person called 206 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 6: and we met for coffee. I was so embarrassed and 207 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 6: I couldn't go into the coffee shop, so we stayed 208 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 6: in her car and top. 209 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 5: The rumor mill was working over time. 210 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 6: She's like the girls told me that there was a 211 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 6: camera in the shower, because all Bea and her friends 212 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 6: would come to our house and get ready and have 213 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 6: fun and they'd shower, you know, And so I was like, no, 214 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 6: there's not a camera. I asked the detective, and he 215 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 6: said that if they would have had any inclination that 216 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 6: those videos were recorded in any other fashion, they would 217 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 6: have taken everything that can connect to the internet. 218 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: But neighbors and other parents still didn't want to send 219 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: their children to play or hang out at Ashley's house. 220 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 5: It was humiliating. 221 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: My house was the hangout house. 222 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 6: I don't really have alcohol in my home, so I 223 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 6: think everyone's family just felt comfortable with all their kids here, 224 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 6: so they don't come here anymore. 225 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: Her home wasn't a safe place anymore, and Ashley didn't 226 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: feel safe going out. 227 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 6: I couldn't go in public, Like even going to the 228 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 6: grocery store, the gas station anywhere is super super hard. 229 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 6: I think it's because I don't want to see people 230 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 6: that we knew together. 231 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 5: Ashley didn't want to explain what happened. Did you know 232 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: what he was doing? Are you getting divorced? 233 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: She had not committed a sin against children, she had 234 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: not broken the law, she had not destroyed their family. 235 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 5: But she felt like she wore a scarlet letter. 236 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 8: Anyway, when you have everything that makes you a human 237 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 8: taken away from you, you are left with the real stuff. 238 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 8: All of those different pieces were crumbling, and I just 239 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 8: was running around trying to pick them up, pick up 240 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 8: the pieces of our life that we show to our families, 241 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 8: or to our neighbors, or to our community, or to 242 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 8: this And I just kept trying to pick them up, 243 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 8: and I was trying to keep them together when it 244 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 8: was completely broken. 245 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: While everything was crumbling, Jason was sending the children letters 246 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: in jail. Ashley protected the kids from reading them. She 247 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: thought it would only compound the trauma at the time. 248 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Now that significant time has passed and she's talked with 249 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: her kids, she feels it's important to share how much 250 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: Jason disassociated his criminal behavior from his role as a parent. 251 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: Here are a few exams. 252 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: To his son, hay stud I hope everything is going 253 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: good and you're kicking button football into a veya. I 254 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: hope you're doing good and having an awesome day. I 255 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: hope soccer is going well. Always stay my proud, confident, 256 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: beautiful daughter. His words reeked of tone, deaf denial. He 257 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: wrote as if he were on a business trip. Jason 258 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: stopped writing to his two step children. He continues to 259 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: write his biological daughter. After making sure the letters are appropriate, 260 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: Ashley lets her daughter read them. 261 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 5: Eventually, Jason's absence. 262 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: From the house set in and Ashley needed to move 263 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: the family forward. 264 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 6: Had them stay on for two weeks, and finally it 265 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 6: was like, listen, guys, you can run away from this 266 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 6: for the rest of our lives, or we can just 267 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 6: confront it and just get these first few days over it, 268 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 6: and I'll go back to work. 269 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: You guys go back to school. Abe can't do it. 270 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: Jason was charged with ten counts of sexual exploitation of 271 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: a minor, a second degree felony, for the thousand plus 272 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: child sexual abuse images that he had in his possession. 273 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: They included children as young as seven years old. He 274 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: was also charged with two counts of voyeurism for secretly 275 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: recording Aveya. When Ashley reflected on it, she realized that 276 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: Jason had treated Avea differently than her other children. 277 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 6: He was always mean to her, Like I thought, maybe 278 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 6: he was just being concerned or maybe even a stern parent, 279 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 6: But looking back now, it was just mean. 280 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: Ashley's father, John, recalled tension when he came to pick 281 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: up the kids at the house. 282 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 5: When I got to throw he was just screaming an 283 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 5: avaya and I walked in. 284 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 12: As soon as I walked in, he plushed right up. 285 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 7: And we did talk about that one time, and I said, 286 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 7: yelling and screamers are going to get you anywhere. 287 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Thirty days after Jason was arrested, he was released. Yes, 288 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: there would be rules and restrictions, but he would be 289 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: out in the community and he would be free until 290 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: his case went to trial. It would take more than 291 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: a year before he was back in a courtroom to 292 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: face justice. 293 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 6: They just gave him some stipulations, like you can't have 294 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 6: a smartphone, no computer, no internets, nothing. 295 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: Ashley had so many questions she had never been able 296 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: to ask Jason. 297 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 8: After he got out, he was saying with his grandpa, 298 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 8: and I had went over there that morning to take 299 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 8: him his clothes and things like that, and asked him 300 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 8: all of those really yucky questions, like if you masturbate 301 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 8: too our daughter, why did you save those photos? And 302 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 8: he sweared it wasn't sexual. 303 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: Ashley made sure he had in a non smartphone. She 304 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: tried to help him find a job. It's hard to 305 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: understand why she felt obligated to help him. If anyone 306 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: tells you that leaving and grieving a toxic relationship is 307 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: easy and straightforward, they'd probably never. 308 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 5: Been in one. 309 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: During one of Jessica and Ashley's therapy sessions, which they 310 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: gave us permission to record and shair, jess was able 311 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: to glean some insight into Ashley's mindset at the. 312 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 6: Time when he went to gel I started trying to reconcile, 313 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 6: like understand it, because at that point I knew he 314 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 6: had recorded her, But what I thought was that he 315 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 6: had recorded her doing everything, you know, doing homework, getting 316 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 6: ready whatever, trying to catch her like vaping or smoking 317 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 6: pod or you know, being inappropriate boys or whatever, you know, 318 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 6: And that's what I had assumed, and I still thought 319 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 6: it was weird, but I thought it was like part 320 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 6: of maybe his psychotic break or whatever. 321 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 10: Well, I'm sure part of your psyche wanted to believe it, 322 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 10: and there's a part of him that probably was in 323 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 10: denial of the seriousness as well. I mean, it's hard 324 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 10: to get paid on the head with something like that. 325 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 10: You know, you want to assume the best, even though 326 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 10: it's kind of glaring. 327 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like right when he got out of JEL. 328 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 10: His behavior started to change for the better. 329 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was everything I wanted it to be. 330 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: But the weight of everything, any indication that what her 331 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: husband did was not so bad was a straw she 332 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: grasped was. 333 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 8: De number four and he had the discovery from his lawyer, 334 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 8: and I was like, oh, I'd really like to read that, 335 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 8: and he's like, oh, no, that's it, and I was like, no, 336 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 8: I want to read this. So he got it out 337 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 8: and I start reading through it, and then I realized 338 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 8: that he's trying to get me to like rush over 339 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 8: these couple of pages, and so I like ripped it 340 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 8: out of his hand. And it was the pages that 341 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 8: detailed his voyorism on a band. That's when I realized 342 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 8: he had lied. I started reading in detail that each 343 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 8: one of the times that he had filmed her was premeditated, 344 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 8: so he would have to know when she was showering 345 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 8: or changing, and then he would sneak outside while around 346 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 8: the back and film her through her window. 347 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: There was no denying the truth. This was evidence, an 348 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: illegal document. It proved that the only reason forever filming 349 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: a Veya was to catch her without clothes on. 350 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 6: That's when it snapped, and I was like, this is it. 351 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 6: I told Jason to quit calling me, and he quit 352 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 6: telling me he loved me, and that I didn't want 353 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 6: to see him anymore. 354 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 10: There was this other part of you that just got 355 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 10: woken up that you haven't really put a voice to. 356 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 10: You haven't completely integrated the full picture yet with and 357 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 10: I assume after that you got angry. Yeah, so there 358 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 10: must have been a registering of the whole truth when 359 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 10: your psyche was really able to kind of allow you 360 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 10: to understand the gravity of his behavior. 361 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 362 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: Once Ashley crossed the bridge and saw Jason clearly, she 363 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: accepted that his crimes were what they looked like, depraved 364 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: personal and involved her beloved daughter, she. 365 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 5: Would divorce him. Her only focus was healing and justice 366 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 5: for a VEA. 367 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: Just about one year after the Litton family was shattered, Ashley, Jason, 368 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: and their respective families sat in a Salt Lake County courtroom. 369 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 12: Okay, well, courts reviewed the pre sentenced report, the psychosexual exam, 370 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 12: and there were many many letters that were submitted book 371 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 12: on behalf of mister Littman on behalf of the biggest 372 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 12: stim and other family members. So that I've read all 373 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 12: of that, is anyone going to be addressing the court directly? 374 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 13: Mister tell you? 375 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 12: Yes? 376 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 6: Sure? 377 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 14: Are they the big tim least? 378 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 6: Okay? 379 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 13: Are they president in the court or? 380 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 5: This was not a trial, It was a sentencing hearing. 381 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: Jason had cut a plea deal with the District Attorney's 382 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: office and was pleading guilty to a reduce charge of 383 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: one count of sexual exploitation of a minor in two 384 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: counts of voyeurism. A matter of guilt was settled. This 385 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: hearing was about justice. Ashley watched nervously from the gallery. 386 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: A vs at beside her prosecutor. Sam Sutton, the third 387 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: prosecutor assigned to the case, addressed the judge from the. 388 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 14: State's perspective, this is very personal concerning the practically, certainly, 389 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 14: your honor has seen plenty of other cases involving sexual 390 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 14: explication of a minor child, child sexual abuse material cases 391 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 14: that usually in those cases we asked for some some 392 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 14: midpoint of jailer twenty or need to pay something like that. 393 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: In other words, in most these cases they asked for 394 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: four to six months of jail time. That's pretty standard 395 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: for someone engaging in this crime. 396 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 14: This pudge one count therefore for many others in the charge, 397 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 14: and a fair amount of child sexual u seriuscounting this posession. 398 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 14: Couple that with the behavior to work his stepdaughter, and 399 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 14: from the state's respective, that's about supposing Hanazon as the 400 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 14: case skits. 401 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: Without actually being Hanaza, even though they. 402 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 14: Are classafe wayers. 403 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: From the state's perspective, they are thinking of a pattern of 404 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: behavior that is greater than the sum of the partners 405 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: that they have. 406 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 14: And for that reason, I am very striding as they 407 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 14: asked me. 408 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: For a maximum jail term here, and I'd ask the 409 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: drown a concidit. 410 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: You input the big tenant for a county of sixteen Jason, 411 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: he argued, should receive the maximum a full year because 412 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: of what he had done to Aveya. You're about to 413 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: hear from Aveah for the first time. She decided to 414 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: address the court at jason sentencing hearing. Both Ashley and 415 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: Eveya gave us consent to use her voice and her 416 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: name her words. Sponsored therapist also supported her decision to participate. 417 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 13: So just tell me your names and what you want 418 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 13: me to know. My name is Ashley Letton. 419 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 15: I am Jason's son, the ex wife, and this is 420 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 15: my daughter. This is a faith and she's asked to 421 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 15: be here and would like to address the work. I 422 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 15: do want you to pay attention to what she's wearing today. 423 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 15: She didn't wear a sweatshirt and so what pants to 424 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 15: be disrespectable, but rather because she didn't feel like she 425 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 15: was safe wearing any You. 426 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 13: Know, I don't want him looking at me. I don't 427 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 13: want him seeing me. I don't want nothing. He completely 428 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 13: ruined my family with our lives. He ruined me. I'm 429 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 13: mentally not the same, dropped out the soccer. Doing that 430 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 13: in school. 431 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 4: Got to me. 432 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 16: God Go wants to tell you. I have extremingnxiety. Now 433 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 16: extreme anxiety. 434 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 13: Where if I am driving and I just somehow see him. 435 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 16: In his car, I call my mom because he's in 436 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 16: the same area. He drives in those same roads as 437 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 16: me every single day. A depression. 438 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 13: I have pecause he's really bad. 439 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 16: I can't I can't sit in class because my anxiety 440 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 16: is so bad. So all I'm asking for you today 441 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 16: is to give him. 442 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 13: I would want him to be in prison. I never 443 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 13: want him look at another child and the way before, 444 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 13: even even before I even knew, because he was rude 445 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 13: to me, he was held with me, treated me, treated 446 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 13: me so poorly. Me and my mother. 447 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 16: Say things to me like I'm a terrible kid, and 448 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 16: take my phone and go through it and go through. 449 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 13: My privacy like my room. 450 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: It was. 451 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 13: It was unfair and it's rude, and I don't want 452 00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 13: any other child. 453 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 6: Ere go through that. 454 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 13: Ever, I'm asking for you to send a heaven. 455 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: Aveya's plea to the court was devastating. All of the stress, sadness, 456 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: and anger over what he had done poured out of her. 457 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: Even Judge Metler seemed moved. 458 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 9: I'm sorry this happened. 459 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 12: I wish I could make it better. 460 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: I can't. 461 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 12: But a venue in particular should feel really proud of yourself. 462 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 12: I think It's a very brave thing to report these 463 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 12: kinds of things, to stay committed to the criminal justices 464 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 12: and process, to show up in court and to speak 465 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 12: to the judge. 466 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 13: You're very great, Thank you, thank you. 467 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: Jason's public defender made an impassioned plea for his freedom. 468 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 17: I would argue Judge first and foremost that mister Lytton 469 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 17: is absolutely jact lee, sorrowful, remorseful for his conduct. I 470 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 17: think he's demonstrated that by taking full accountability, full acceptance 471 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 17: of responsibility for his misconduct. Judge, I understand the name victims. 472 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 17: I mean for lack of ptterwords crushing sorrow, crushing anger 473 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 17: about this misconduct that mister Lynton engaged in. My client 474 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 17: fully understands where they are coming from and why they 475 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 17: would never want to see him again ever in society. 476 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 17: He was suffering from a severe depression. Yes, he did 477 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 17: receive adderall and some prozac, and perhaps that wasn't the 478 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 17: best indicated medication for his condition. He has engaged in 479 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 17: community based and community supported counseling groups to help address that. 480 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 13: He has a long. 481 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 17: Way to go with regard to the specialized psychosexual treatment. 482 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 17: But doctor Rory and the AP and p P s 483 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 17: Our Writer reached the same conclusion that he is appropriate 484 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 17: and suitable for community based treatment. 485 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: The takeaway is that the psychologist who had evaluated Jason, 486 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: the agency that writes the recommended treatment plan advised court 487 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: ordered intensive treatment for Jason, but not incarceration. After his 488 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: public defender spoke, Jason addressed the judge. 489 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry for the pain in her I've caused 490 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: my family day goes by. I don't think about her. 491 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: I've caused them, My heart an exclusion. 492 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 13: There was something I could say or do to fix this. 493 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: I want to say sorry to Abata for destroying her 494 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: safe place in her life. I failed her as a 495 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: father and abused love and trust she had to me. 496 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: What I did to her was despicable, despicable and shameful. 497 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: I want to say sorry to Ashley for the pain 498 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: and suffering I've caused her. I flipped her whole world 499 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: around and destroyed our family in the process. I feel 500 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: her as a husband and taken away the trust she 501 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: had in others. I also want to apologize to the 502 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: kids and the pictures I looked at. I know that 503 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: they have suffered a huge amount of use and pain. 504 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: They have lived a life of fear and suffering, and 505 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: I played a part in that with my actions to 506 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: all of you. I'm so sorry. I've heard so many 507 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: friends and family with my actions. This is this whole situation. 508 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: Is my fault, and my faul alone. 509 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: My recovery is also very important to me. I look 510 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: forward to the programs and all other help I will 511 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: be fortunate to have. I want to ensure that nothing 512 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: like this ever happens again. 513 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: Jason also touted the support groups he had joined and 514 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: his renewed dedication to the church. Judge Metler took everything 515 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: into consideration and rendered her decision. 516 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 12: Okay, well, thank you everyone for your input. Been thinking 517 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 12: about this for a while. This is a tough one 518 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 12: and that court makes decisions concerning sensing. The court really 519 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 12: is balancing ways in which the victim can be made wold, 520 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 12: which frankly is pretty unusual, and the victim can truly 521 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 12: be able. Rehabilitating that defendant is an important factor. 522 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 9: And then, of course. 523 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: Passion would Avea and Ashley get justice, would Jason be 524 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: put behind bars? 525 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 5: That's next time on betrayal. 526 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 12: For the Crown of sexual exploitation of minor second refellony 527 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 12: and Crispel. 528 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: I also visit Vea and Ashley at home to find 529 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: out what has happened since that day. 530 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 7: I'd been laying in bed some nights and I'd just 531 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 7: sit there thinking, like someone's looking, someone's creeping. 532 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: Can you get that feeling? 533 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: And later on this season of Betrayal, I. 534 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 6: Saw FBI on their vests and he's like, Mandy, I'm 535 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 6: not gonna sugarcoat anything. 536 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: We'll meet more women confronted with shocking revelations about the 537 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: men they married. 538 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 7: My dad was like, let's think about this because if 539 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 7: he goes to jail, you're gonna lose all of your benefits, 540 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 7: Like I give a block run. 541 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal team, 542 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: email us at Betrayal Pod at gmail dot com. That's 543 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: Betrayal Pod at gmail dot com. To report a case 544 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: of child sexual exploitation, called the National Center for Missing 545 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: and Exploited Children's cyber Tipline at one eight hundred the Lost. 546 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 5: If you or someone you. 547 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: Know is worried about their sexual thoughts and feelings towards children, 548 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: reach out to Stop it Now dot org. 549 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 5: In the United Kingdom, go to. 550 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: Stop it Now dot org dot UK these organizations can help. 551 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 5: We're grateful for your One. 552 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: Way to show support is by subscribing to our show 553 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, and don't forget to rate and review Betrayal. 554 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: Five star reviews go a long way. 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