1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Ladies and Julesen. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, well buckle up, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: sweet cheeks with all we We've got all the experience 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: in the world. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: This is I want your Flex. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: With Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: down everything you need to set your lineups, from position 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: rankings to starts and sits. The guys help you make 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: those hard decisions. And now let's get your flex. Ond 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon a. 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 4: Very Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. He is Mike Carmen and 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: Dan Byer. Ian Roddy is the executive producer a special edition. 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 4: If I want your Flex this time around, you can 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 4: get Mike on Blue Sky at Mike Carmen, you can 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 4: find me. They're at Dan Bayer, find him on ex 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 4: at Swollen Dome, or find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Mike, 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 4: it is the Holidays. You and I got together on 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 4: Monday night, December twenty third on your show that you 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: do weeknights on Fox Sports Radio with Jason Smith, and 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: because of the holidays, because of time crunching different schedules, 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: we decided to take some of our content from that 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: show and put it into the pod this week. 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, we got the recap of what was an exhilarating 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: Monday night game between the Packers and the Saints. 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: But still some fantasy love with the. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 4: Z in auxhilarating a lot of zs z's. 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: Well, look, maybe you took a nap, whatever it is. 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 5: Maybe you got some extra holiday holiday holiday hustle and bustle, 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 5: some cooking, some baking, a nap somewhere in there. Whatever 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 5: the case is, that you talk about the performers of 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: week sixteen and start looking ahead to what we might 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 5: have championship week. 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: It's a glorious time of year. 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: Dan, Yeah, Week sixteen it was pretty crazy, and I 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: know exhilarating doesn't have any z's. It was just a joke, 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: but a week. We appreciate your loyalty and it is 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: a winning time. It is playoff time in fantasy football, 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: so we didn't want you to think that we were 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: abandoning you. It's just a different feel for the podcast 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: this week, and we'll be back for a brand new 41 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: episode coming up on Friday with Mike Harmon's rankings and 42 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: hot plays and cold soares for Week seventeen. But if 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: it sounds a little different, That's why because I was 44 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: in for Jason Smith on Mike's show weeknights on Fox 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: Sports Radio on Monday night as we chopped up that 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: Packers Saints game. And by the way, here's a little 47 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 4: taste of that, and that's what you're gonna get throughout 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: the podcast. So enjoy that and we'll talk to you 49 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: right here, and I want you Flex. 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas, greetings and welcome in. 51 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: Another beautiful week begins here the Jason Smith Show with me, 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 5: Mike Harmon. No, Jason Smith tonight has big voice. Bob 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: had to tell you Stan Byer in his stead, my 54 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 5: tag team partner, longtime colleague here Fox Sports Trade and 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: of course the I Watch Your Flex podcast that we 56 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 5: dial up multiple times each and every week, making you 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 5: a little bit smarter, sometimes making ourselves look a little 58 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 5: less so. But Dan keeps me on even keel and 59 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: we're almost through the end of the regular season. We'll 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 5: have an airing of the grievances later, Dan, But you're 61 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 5: fresh off a flight, fresh off the Midwest, the skies, 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 5: the highways, the byeways, how it all go. 63 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 4: Fresh off the snow, the chill. The ears still haven't popped, Mike, 64 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: But this is fun. I love when you and I 65 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: get together, and as you said, we get together on 66 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: the I Want Your Flex podcast. But there is always 67 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: something just a little different when I'm in for you. 68 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: I don't know if it feels dirty, if it feels 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: like maybe like I know that you're with Jason Smith, 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: but I'm kind of like cheating. So it's this secret 71 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: sort of thing. But I'm happy to be here for 72 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: the next four hours. 73 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: Well, you know what is an open secret? 74 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 5: Four hundred affiliates nationwide, the IHEA radio app. I mean global, global, 75 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 5: I mean just putting it out in everybody's face. Twenty 76 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 5: one nothing your Monday night football score. Not really aesthetically 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 5: pleasing in any sense of the world word at this point. 78 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs with his sixty four yards and a touchdown 79 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 5: Jordan Love pedestrian one thirty six and one, but a 80 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 5: yeoman like effort against an overmatched, undermanned, and frankly discombobulated, pathetic, underprepared. 81 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 5: What other word can I use to describe what the 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 5: Saints are put together? 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: I have no idea. I have no idea why the 84 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: NFL would say this is what the audience wants On 85 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: Christmas Eve, eve it. It doesn't make sense in a 86 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: flex situation, and keeping this game in like it didn't 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 4: make sense at the beginning of the season to think 88 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: that in Week sixteen the Saints would have anything to 89 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 4: play for, whether Derek Carr was healthy or not healthy. 90 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: I don't know why the NFL would want to schedule 91 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: a game like this. Well, actually I do, because they 92 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: want to make the Packers seem great. They want the 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: Thursday or they want the Monday night football lore and 94 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: the cold weather, and they want that look for their 95 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 4: broadcast because everybody loves wintery mix and watching those games 96 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: on TV. That's the exact reason that they did it. 97 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: They loved it when it was snowing in Cleveland, they 98 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: loved it when it was snowing in Buffalo. And hey, 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: late December, right before Christmas, let's go to Green Bay. 100 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: Who should we put against them? The Saints. You set 101 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: it on the list in the studio. I said it 102 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: on the list in our studio. Worst team in the 103 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: NFL at the beginning of the season. They've overachieved, Dan, 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 4: they have overachieved, and we thought that in Derek Carr 105 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 4: and they don't even have him tonight. Why this game 106 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: is being played on a Monday night. I have no 107 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 4: idea except for the NFL trying to push their conspiracy 108 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 4: and having some winter wonderland fun for the Green Bay Packers. 109 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: In the end, it is a TV show, so we 110 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: get that. 111 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 5: So if you get a little bit of a weather 112 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 5: element to it, that it gives folks something extra to watch. 113 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: In this case, it's fantasy playoff games and whether they 114 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: cover the robust fourteen or fourteen and a half point 115 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: number that was put up for the Packers here obviously 116 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 5: Jordan Love and Josh Jacobs, and maybe you decided to 117 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: delve down into those wide receivers. I wouldn't touch them 118 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 5: with a ten football, even in a plus matchup, because 119 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 5: which guy is gonna get fed? 120 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: You have no idea. 121 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 5: We talked about it a little in the podcast you 122 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 5: were en route to your homeland. As Hean and I 123 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 5: sat down, It's like, you look at some of the 124 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 5: numbers when you go to Jyden Reed you really love him, great, 125 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: he's got fifty catches, right, Not on a week to 126 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 5: week basis, trying to guess who's gonna get fed outside 127 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: of Jacob's has been a miserable construct and even today Hey, 128 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 5: Muscove's back, that doesn't matter. He is still Tucker Craft. 129 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 5: Go go ahead and get him involved a bunch. But 130 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: to your point about you know the Packers and what 131 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 5: they are. You've got history, so you always get to 132 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 5: give people a nice little history lesson on your league 133 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 5: when you go to lambeau Field. The pageantry, the pomp 134 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 5: and circumstance and everything. Yeah, the Saints, I mean they're 135 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 5: not only missing Car. There's no a Lave, there's no Kamara. 136 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 5: Carr was still having a really good season despite the chaos, 137 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: inconsistency and just futured play around him. But all that 138 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 5: to say, yeah, and we're flexing everything else. We're putting 139 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: in a mini it might as well be the Emirates 140 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 5: Cup Light with those four teams that are playing Saturday 141 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 5: and Wednesday, and yet this game stands alone. Hell, we 142 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 5: fletched out the Cowboys out of a game, right right 143 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: right like, but nothing sacred. 144 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: Let's keep the Saints though. Let's make sure that the 145 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: Saints and Packers stays in the spot that it needs 146 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: to remember the days of the Aints. Yeah they are 147 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 4: the Ain't nobody good playing tonight? That's who they are. 148 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: They're not the Aints. It's just ain't nobody good playing 149 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: for the Saints tonight. And that's the mess that we 150 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: get and should we expect twenty four to nothing? This 151 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: is just this is a three hour parade, like there's 152 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: nothing to worry about. Guarantee people will be leaving in 153 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter because now you've got Christmas plans. You 154 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: don't want to be stranded out at night. But there's 155 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: no reason for this game. I know that you can't 156 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: a week out change a Monday night game, but still 157 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: to the point of what we thought the Saints were 158 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: going to be at the beginning of the year, Mike 159 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: and now with an inner med coach, and I know 160 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: they went on a mini run you know, a few 161 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: weeks back. Still not enough worthy enough to keep this 162 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: as a Monday night game except for the hope of 163 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: snow and for the great vibes that you get from 164 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: playing a game at Lambeufield in December. 165 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Rizzy doesn't match the the heat and 166 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 5: genesis of social media clicks like his guy the Rizzler Man. 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 5: It's close because I've seen those side by sides at 168 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: points and he does get a little fiery on the 169 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 5: sideline but I don't think it has the same juice. 170 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: But for the Packers, man, you're gonna be an eleven 171 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 5: win team taking care of business, yeoman like defense as 172 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: we talked about on the pod, but bringing it to 173 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: everybody here in this space. You know, finally all the 174 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 5: turnovers that we'd been projecting and waiting for with this 175 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 5: defense coming in Spains. I think it was their twenty 176 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 5: seventh tonight. Earlier on one of the more inexplicable fumbles 177 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 5: you'll see, where it was like someone was gonna about 178 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: to get mugged. And I don't not make light of 179 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: people getting robbed is very real thing, but it's the hey, 180 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: here's my wallet. That's what Rattler did with the football. 181 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 5: As the defender went to take you just kind of 182 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: flipped it up into no man's lands. 183 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: Everything. 184 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, just take it, keep me safe. He still got 185 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: run through into the end of the turf. Later was 186 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 5: the beneficiary of one of the worst roughing the passer 187 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 5: calls I've seen all season long, which is a whole 188 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 5: other referendum on refereeing that needs to happen. As well 189 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 5: as if you were going to have the you know, 190 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: the everybody does the Czar of sports end of year. 191 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 4: What would I change? 192 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, officiating really needs some something. I don't know how 193 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 5: and what, but yeah, it's it's gone into a really 194 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 5: bad space. Fortunately it's a blowout, so one or two 195 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 5: miss calls or bad clock work aren't gonna matter here. 196 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 5: But the Packers roll on in what has been a 197 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 5: nondescript game. 198 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe this will come out of the airing of 199 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: grievances as well, that the thoughts about officiating. But on 200 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 4: art I Want Your Flex podcast, a few weeks back, 201 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: maybe a month or two ago, we went down the 202 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: list of teams that we thought could win the Super Bowl. 203 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to rain or snow on Green 204 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 4: Bay's parade at all with the Monday night game and 205 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: saying that the NFL purposely put them here because Mike, 206 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: you could attest to it that I felt Green Bay 207 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: was a legit Super Bowl contender. And when I was 208 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 4: back home in Wisconsin this past week, I had aunts 209 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: and cousins and saying, how do you think the Packers 210 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: are gonna do? My opinion really means nothing, but I 211 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: do believe in this team as a legit possibility to 212 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: win Super Bowl fifty nine. When you look at how 213 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: things in the NFC are shaking out, I just don't 214 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: think tonight tells us anything about them. 215 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 5: Oh no, we don't learn anything. This is a get in, 216 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: do your job, try to get out healthy. That's it. 217 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 5: Make sure so because as long as Josh Jacobs is 218 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 5: running as he is, and right now Jordan Love is 219 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 5: on a streak, and I don't want to jinx it, 220 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 5: but it's four plus games without a pick. Like he's 221 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 5: taking care of the football sure right, which is one 222 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 5: of the big, big caveats to a lot of players, 223 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 5: Like all right, there's great explosive plays and opportunities, and 224 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: he spreads the ball around a ton as we've spoken of, 225 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 5: may just go down. What their stats were coming into 226 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 5: this week sixteen finale here is that you've got a 227 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 5: number of guys at twenty five thirty forty catches. You 228 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: don't have a guy that needs to be fed one 229 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty times. And that's the greatness of the team. 230 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 5: Does that work forever? Maybe maybe not, But Watson at 231 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 5: one point probably should have been hit for a touchdown. 232 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 5: Now Love found another option that got him a first. 233 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 5: How often can you do that before someone feels like 234 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 5: they need to be fed, whether it's contract incentives or 235 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: just hey, trying to put stuff on tape because I 236 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 5: got to get paid too, and fractures there. But for 237 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 5: the moment, you're up twenty four to nothing and moving forward. 238 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 5: But you look at the NFC as a whole. I mean, 239 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts went out with a concussion, what does that 240 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: mean for a week? For two weeks for their end 241 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 5: of the season. You go down the list. In Minnesota, 242 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 5: You've got Sam Darnold, great story. Everybody keeps saying, yeah, 243 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 5: but like he's, you know, a thirty five year old 244 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 5: guy that's been weaving his way throughout the league. No, 245 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 5: he's still a young guy, came in young. Yes, he's 246 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 5: bounced a bit. That's more circumstance, I think than him necessarily. 247 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 5: But he's found the right spot. And you've got a 248 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 5: defense playing lights out football. You roll through the Lions. 249 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 5: Does the attrition eventually hit them? 250 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: May not. Defense. 251 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 5: They've lost so many guys that were starters, and David 252 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 5: Montgomery thinks he's gonna have the Festivus miracle and be 253 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 5: able to play issuing surgery. I don't know that whether 254 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 5: that happens or not. But you know you've got all 255 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 5: that to say that that's pretty much your bubble, right. 256 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 5: I mean the West, someone's getting in, but are they 257 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 5: a contender or not. I don't know how much I 258 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: believe in the Ram or the adn't get in deeper. 259 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: I don't think the Rams can win the Super Bowl. 260 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 4: I do think the Rams are the team you don't 261 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: want to play. Does that make sense? 262 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: Sure? 263 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: I think that's simple enough where I don't think they're 264 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: gonna run through the NFC and end up in New Orleans. 265 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: But if I'm sitting there at Green Bay and I'm 266 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: the sixth seed, is the wild card because of the 267 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: greatness of Detroit and Minnesota so far this season, going 268 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 4: to LA and facing the Rams maybe isn't as ideal 269 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: as another possibility, like being able to face of being 270 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: able to face the winner of the NFC South, whoever 271 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: that may be. Like, there's a distinct advantage for the 272 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 4: fifth seed wild card playing the fourth seed in the 273 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: NFC South, But I don't think that the I think 274 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: green Bay could go to LA and handle the Rams. 275 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: But I just don't think it's the fact of that 276 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: we think automatic victory when it comes to that scenario. 277 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, wait to see how many folks got some extra 278 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 5: dollars or Christmas bonuses at their jobs in Wisconsin to 279 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: come back out to Los Angeles for an early January vacation. 280 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: Tell you what, Las Vegas and the warm weather, they're 281 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 4: ready to go. Let's get out of. 282 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: There find their way. 283 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: Is no question about it, all right, Dan, As you 284 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 5: and I get together each and every week on the 285 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: I Watch Flex podcast. Part of the early week show 286 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 5: is going through the good, the bad, the ugly of 287 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 5: the week, just past the performances that maybe stood out, 288 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 5: some of the picks that we had in our top 289 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: fives and all of that fun stuff. I do a 290 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 5: laundry list of things, and then I watch guys fail 291 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 5: me left and right, and it's their fault, not mine. 292 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 5: I picked them to do well. They're expected to then perform. 293 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: But we have a miserable effort from Josh Allen in 294 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 5: a twenty four to twenty one win. After Monster games, 295 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 5: week after week, championship. 296 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: Is on the line. 297 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: We're talking playoffs and eleven point performance in the home 298 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 5: win over the Patriots. 299 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: You're thinking, as well, if you're Eagles, if you have 300 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts lookout game against Washington at Washington 301 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: could have some points. He ends up getting a concussion 302 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: and ends up getting knocked out. And that's as I 303 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: look back at Week sixteen, which is playoff time, this 304 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 4: is winning time in fantasy football. It's funny to me, Mike, 305 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: and how the running back positions, specifically a couple of 306 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: guys really were affected in a positive way by things 307 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: that you just can't count on. You can count on 308 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: matchups going yourway. I like this matchup, but Jalen Hurts 309 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: gets knocked out against Washington, opening the door for Saquon Barkley. 310 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: Falcons make a quarterback change and decide we're gonna go 311 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: with Michael Pennix. Oh, by the way, we have got 312 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: a crappy team with nothing to play for coming to town, 313 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: and so we can just run Bejhon Robinson all over you. 314 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: So Bejon ends up being the star. And then in 315 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: Detroit David Montgomery and no comment about your bears. It's 316 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: just a fact of Now it's his show. Guess what 317 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: let him run wild, and that's exactly what he did. 318 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: But all three of those scenarios aren't scenarios that you 319 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: go into the week. Even though they're big names, they 320 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: came up with huge, huge performances, all because of something 321 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 4: else that happened, not because of what they were actually 322 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: planning on doing well. 323 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 5: And a guy that atoned for a previous fantasy and 324 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 5: football sin Jonathan Taylor goes for two to eighteen and 325 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: three touchdowns in a wild win over the Titans. For 326 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 5: fantasy purposes, one of the great disappointments on the year. 327 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 5: We'll get into him in the airing of grievances, no 328 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 5: doubt a chan even though the Dolphins haven't been world 329 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 5: beating well, you look at what he did. He's into 330 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 5: double digit touchdowns, one hundred and twenty on the ground, 331 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 5: seventy receiving in that win at Chewba Hubbard, who I 332 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 5: know you you love and hate, Uh, probably hate him 333 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 5: a little bit more right now. One hundred and fifty 334 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 5: two and two adds four receptions to become the number 335 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 5: two running back for the week. Connor Cook, some of 336 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: the usual suspects getting it done. You mentioned Michael Pennis Junior. 337 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 5: Great opportunity in a plus matchup, but for fantasy purposes, 338 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 5: he gave you an absolute zero. 339 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 340 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: Part of it being Kyle Pitts and whatever that interception is. 341 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 4: Drake London didn't help him. You there in a goal 342 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 4: line or you know, possible touchdown scenario for Atlanta, but 343 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: you go. If Cousins isn't benched, you're not You're expecting 344 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 4: Bijon to have a nice game against the Giants, but 345 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: you're not leaning on the run game as much. And 346 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 4: if you're in a playoff game where it's Sakwon Barkley 347 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: against Jalen Hurts, like you can have an advantage when 348 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: you have Hurts as your quarterback because you can still 349 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 4: touchdowns from Barkley. Once he gets knocked out and then 350 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 4: Barkley gets him, it's likely game set and match for 351 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: your fantasy. So just that those that domino effect Mike 352 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 4: can be the difference between winning and losing in fantasy. 353 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: And that's just can't you can't expect it, But you 354 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 4: can't expect the game to be played in the thirties 355 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 4: between the Eagles and Commanders. And that's what we got, 356 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 4: as crazy as it was, but man, just the circumstances 357 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: on how it goes down. 358 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 5: No, and that's the beauty of the league. For better 359 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 5: or for worse, I depending on your perspective and your 360 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 5: team and whether you're on the short end of it, 361 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 5: both for fantasy and your actual fandom. Dan, I mean 362 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: watching that Eagles game play out, five touchdowns, two fifty 363 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 5: eight for Jaden Daniels and once again everybody singing his 364 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: praises because that had gotten muted for a while. Second half, Oh, 365 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: he's getting kingsburied right, the second half of Kingsbury's life. 366 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 5: We've watched it when he was a college coach, We've 367 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 5: watched it in his previous NFL stops where things settle down. 368 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: Bryce Young had another big game. Patrick Mahomes on what 369 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 5: was supposed to be a bad wheel. Oh wait, let 370 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 5: me rush for a touchdown early on and take care 371 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 5: of business. So topsy turvy world of the league for sure, 372 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 5: as we get ready for Week seventeen. 373 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: And Keenan Allen becoming quite the threat for your Bears. 374 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 5: Even though he's already actively talked about maybe wanting to 375 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 5: go back to Los Angeles. But yeah, nine and one 376 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 5: for him, and we'd be remiss if we didn't talk 377 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: about No matter how bad the Jaguars are, boy Brian 378 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 5: Thomas Junior is going to be a problem, Yes for 379 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 5: a long long time, another big game for him nine 380 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 5: one thirty two and one. 381 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: What is it? Two to seventy two? They all count. 382 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: They all count, so just the same, doesn't matter if 383 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 4: it's if it's Bill's Chiefs or Chiefs Texans, if you 384 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: want to use this week's games or Raiders Jaguars, they 385 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: all count the same. 386 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 5: We all start. We always start the season with that 387 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: and the other. We can find fantasy points no matter 388 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 5: what sticker or lack thereof is on the side of 389 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 5: it helmet. 390 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: Yep, we'll find our value. 391 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 5: Time for the airing of the grievances that annual part 392 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 5: because it is actually Festivus today in the Seinfeld Lore 393 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 5: December twenty third, So everybody get together and pass around 394 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: the metal poll and air out who's done you wrong 395 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: for fantasy purposes in Bush, you're welcome to dive in 396 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: in here if you've got one or two people, or 397 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 5: just a situation in general that has peeved you to know. 398 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 5: And Dan, would you like to start? Is there someone 399 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 5: in particular on your list that get you absolutely? 400 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 4: And I actually feel silly for thinking this way, but Mike, 401 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 4: you know how you sometimes talk yourself into drafting a 402 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: player or expecting good things from that player. Oh yeah, 403 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 4: that was the case with me with Romandre Stevenson of 404 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: the New England Patriots. And if you look at Romandre 405 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: Stevenson and what he's done this year, eight hundred yards, 406 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: seven touchdowns, it's not awful, but it's also not great. 407 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 4: And it's not that I expected great things from Ramandre Stevenson. 408 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: It's that I talked myself into drafting Ramandre Stevenson. And 409 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: Week one they go out, they beat the Bengals one 410 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty yards in a touchdown. This baby's gonna 411 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: take off. You know why, Mike, Because New England is 412 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 4: gonna run the football. They just gave him a contract 413 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: in this offseason. You think they're giving him a contract 414 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 4: if they're not gonna use him. Girod Mayo is gonna 415 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: be an upgrade over Bill Belichick, at least in the 416 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: short term, because it's a new voice and new blood. 417 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 4: And when you play Drake may you just lean on 418 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 4: that running game. And Romandre Stevenson at times is in 419 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: and out of the lineup. Never cracked one hundred yards again. 420 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 4: And in the week that I then decided to bench him, 421 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 4: he scored two touchdowns against the New York Jets. So 422 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: I know it's a little off the board, but Romandre 423 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: Stevenson is my thorn in my side for my high 424 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: hopes for fantasy for fantasy football on this Festivus holiday. 425 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 5: The old I send you to Heaven before I send 426 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: you to Hell, go back and watch at Simpson's side, 427 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 5: show Bob and quoting all sorts of great musicals of 428 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 5: the past. Jonathan Taylor with his thirty nine point eight 429 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 5: this week fantastic right two unterd plus three touchdowns. He 430 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 5: did miss a couple of games. He's right now running 431 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 5: back twenty in PP hardly. 432 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: Just pouring one out for all the fantasy teams that drafted. 433 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 5: That was good and Taylor, that was a very good 434 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 5: sound effect that you added in there. I don't even 435 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 5: know how you did that. Breece Hall, a guy who 436 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: would have been drafted as RB two, RB three or 437 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 5: RB four in most leagues. He's currently RB sixteen. 438 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 4: Oh gosh. I had hopes it hopes for him as well. 439 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: Jets and the great expectations thereof CJ. Stroud. 440 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 5: We talk about games that matter. Going into Week seventeen, 441 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 5: this Mini four team, let's hang out and play some 442 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 5: games down the stretch. 443 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: CJ. Stroud is QB eighteen. 444 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: I had and we thought, we thought now with Steffan 445 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 4: Days and Nico Collins and obviously the devastating entry to 446 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: take Dallas past weekend. But they were best friends. You 447 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 4: thought the report would be there. It has not been. 448 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a team actually, you know, I thought they'd 449 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 5: put up some points. It was fearful of the offensive line. 450 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 5: Those fears were were well founded. But on our board 451 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 5: over there, in addition to thinking New Orleans would be 452 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 5: the worst team in the league, my out on a 453 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 5: limb was that Houston would miss the playoffs because I 454 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 5: thought the rest of the division would actually show up. 455 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 5: And guess what it did not three of the worst 456 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: teams with terrible decision made. 457 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor turning it on in week sixteen. 458 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 5: He gave you that one, and look, they still had 459 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 5: a glimmer of hope for a long while. Hey, burse 460 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 5: you got anybody you'd like to add to this list 461 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 5: or a scenario an airing of grievances. 462 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely a few. I mean, after tonight, the entire 463 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints are are I have to air my 464 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: grievances on that franchise as a whole for being so 465 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: awful offensively that I came into a semi final matchup 466 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: basically tied tonight. I had Tucker Craft, my opponent had 467 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: the Packers defense, and he in essence, had the New 468 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints offense just feeding him points. So no, I 469 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: lost that one as as a whole over the season. 470 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: Travis Etn is definitely somebody who came into the season 471 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: as a as a solid second round running back, started 472 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: off the season fine and then got hurt, and once 473 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: he got hurt, he really disappeared offensively. Tank Bigsby really 474 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: got into the mix in Jacksonville, and he turned quickly 475 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: into somebody who you didn't feel like you could bench 476 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: him at the once he started to struggle early in 477 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: the season, and then it got to the point where 478 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: you're like, I can't start him. There's no way you 479 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: can't start him with any level of confidence. 480 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 5: You want to fund with numbers out of that, yeah, 481 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 5: RB's thirty eight and thirty seven. Bigsby is one point 482 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 5: eight points better than Etn for the season. 483 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 4: That's terrible. 484 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: That is terrible, and I think on behalf of plenty 485 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: of other owners. Of course, the Christian McCaffrey situation doomed 486 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: a lot of people from the start of the season. Also, 487 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: do you guys remember Brandon aiyuk Oh spot a time 488 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: he's a player in the NFL. He's still on the 489 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. He had the whole contract dispute and 490 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: then got hurt and was never seen up again. 491 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he submarined a team for me. 492 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 4: Do we have a Tyreek Hill? Did we mention Tyren? 493 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: He's on the list certainly. 494 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 4: K Metcalf knee injuries, and I felt Jackson's with a 495 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: jigbo would emerge and he has this season, and it's 496 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: almost been a little bit at the expense of DK Metcalf. 497 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 4: I thought it would be at the expensive Tyler Lockett. 498 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: But DK Metcalf has not been the performer, especially down 499 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 4: the stretch here. Finally got into the end zone against Minnesota, 500 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 4: but hadn't scored since mid October prior to that, and 501 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: to go along with the knee injury, to go along 502 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 4: with just his totals, he had been a disappointment. 503 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 5: W R thirty three going with our CJ. Stroud Nico 504 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 5: Collins back to number twenty two, so a lot of 505 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 5: that related to injuries, so shows you how effective he 506 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 5: was when he played. Mike Evans missed a couple of 507 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 5: games and has been a beast in several others, but 508 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 5: still only WR nineteen on the year. He's just behind 509 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill in that regard. And then the last quarterback 510 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 5: I wanted to mention because he got benched and even 511 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: if you didn't expect that you'd have dominance week to week. 512 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: Actually, I'll take two Kirk Cousins twentieth on the year 513 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: heading into tonight, even with all those weapons and everything 514 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: that had been assembled for him, and then Jordan Love 515 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 3: tonight against the Saints thirty four to off in your 516 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: final eleven point five points. He is QB seventeen on 517 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: the year. 518 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 4: Sam Laporta was a guy that at the tight end position, 519 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: oh absolutely number one coming into the season. Got a 520 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 4: love Laporta, and then he scores in the fake trip 521 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: game against the Bears when I was eliminated weeks prior. 522 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: There you go, he at least got you one there. 523 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 4: So they did have the two touchdown, three catch six 524 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: yard game this year. 525 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 5: They're very reminiscent of the old Jerome bettis five carries 526 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: one yard three touchdown stat line from many years ago. 527 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 5: He's Dan Bayer. Thanks Bersch at Ryan Bursch, you gore. 528 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 5: Check out his podcast Everything He's got going Dodger related 529 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 5: as we get ready for the end of the silly season, 530 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 5: money flying about. He and Bo Benz and Monci belagyas 531 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 5: they've got you covered on all the highs and lows 532 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 5: of the that season. Where can they find the podcast Bursch. 533 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: As the sick podcast of the Dodger Zone and thankfully 534 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: not many lows anymore. 535 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 5: There you go, all positivity looking down at the rest 536 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 5: of creation, like my beloved White Sox over under on 537 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 5: Wednesday forty nine and a half for twenty twelve. 538 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: Oh the over. Yeah, absolutely the over. It's a new 539 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: day on the South Side of Chicago. 540 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 5: Boy, I wish I had your optimism.