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Speaker 2: All Right, so I just want to ask ask a

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Speaker 2: show there soon to be Team President ed Policy, who

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Speaker 2: spoke about his philosophy on contract extensions for head coaches,

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Speaker 2: and basically, to sum it up, he looked at Matt

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Speaker 2: Lafleur and Brian Gudacunz to have two years left on

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Speaker 2: their deal and said, yeah, you know, we're not quite

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Speaker 2: ready to give them the contract extension yet. But I

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Speaker 2: would say not all the time. I'm generally opposed to

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Speaker 2: guys going into a lame duck situation. Well, if that's

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Speaker 2: you don't want anybody going into a lame duck situation,

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Speaker 2: then what you're saying, is this conversation next year is

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to ask the question, which I think

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Speaker 2: of wondering as well too, what else would Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 2: And yet Ed Policy is sitting there talking about, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, we'd like to see maybe a little bit

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Speaker 2: I don't want them going into a lame duck situation.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not ready to give them a contract yet.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you Why would you even let this be

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Speaker 3: I think it's a valid question, and it's a valid

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Speaker 3: you know, GM, I don't think that they're lame ducks

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like that you're you're now

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've been to the playoffs every year except

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Speaker 2: of like Matt Lafleur has proven his worth that hey,

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Speaker 3: That just seems like that would be the simple, sensible

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Speaker 3: Good I think this Green Bay Packers team you can

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Speaker 2: That divisions, in my mind, one of the more interesting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros

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Speaker 2: I would like to give a shout out here. There

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Speaker 2: Since should Or Sanders just got popped for going forty

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Speaker 2: Well because Miles Garrett had an issue with that. You know,

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Those who have not speed speeded be the first one

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Speaker 4: I'm just it's not sped speeded?

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Speaker 4: I would think it was be sped.

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Speaker 2: you could be right, yeah, whatever could be right clean?

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Speaker 2: Can you can you double check how many times Miles

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true leadership. And for those of you that

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like it is a word too

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Speaker 3: Just so we're clear, now, can we talk about the

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Speaker 2: Which is what the fact that you said during.

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Speaker 3: It's not it's not Miles Garrett being a proper example

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Speaker 2: You said he should you said he should be cut

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 3: Did I say anything to you about anything like that

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Speaker 3: So do not run with the fact that Jonahs said

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Speaker 2: The first time I was ever in a Tesla, the

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Speaker 4: Don't make this like this is like oh this entitled kid.

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Speaker 4: Past okay, we can't and go past forty miles per hour.

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Speaker 3: So so forget forget your door Sanders, Hey, Like, this

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Speaker 4: It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 2: He was driving a truck. It was not a cyber

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Speaker 6: This is not this is you believe magic man, noe,

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Speaker 2: God would literally God would literally may wave a magic

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Speaker 2: But one of the one of the details that did

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Speaker 2: or he could in court. Now from personal experience, I

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Speaker 2: the fact that that guy showed up, And I'd imagine

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Speaker 3: Saying well, it doesn't matter if he fights it or

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Speaker 4: That's what made lay, That's what makes this a conversation.

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Speaker 3: about why this is a topic.

439
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 4: The topic of.

440
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: Concern here is is this bad enough for Shador Sanders

441
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: to actually caused himself a job?

442
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: And I would say.

443
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 3: If you lean on the side of quarterbacks have a

444
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: different level of accountability, a different level of responsibility, and

445
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: how they conduct themselves and how they do things than

446
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: other players.

447
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 4: It could be perceived.

448
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: As a judgment called that this young man isn't ready

449
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: to be a leader, and those you open yourself up

450
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: for that type of scrutiny and that type of criticism

451
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: when you do things that you know don't pan out

452
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 3: the way that you like. He probably wasn't even thinking

453
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: nothing of it. He's driving, He's probably either on his

454
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: Bluetooth his hands free device, talking on the phone. He's

455
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: maybe listening to his music. Cats be turning up while

456
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: they'd be driving, listening to the music, whatever it may be. Right,

457
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: he probably wasn't paying no attention to the fact that

458
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: he was speeding, and that very well could be the

459
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: conversation that he has with the coaching staff. But I

460
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: think that's what the transition to me goes to, is

461
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: what was the conversation between Shador Sanders and the coaches

462
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: that he has to talk to.

463
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: Because ultimately the.

464
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: Only reason why this is a story is because of

465
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: how much how much attention there has been paid to

466
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: what do you do with Shador Sanders?

467
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: Hundred percent?

468
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: Right?

469
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 4: This does this dictate? God?

470
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like I would I would imagine and

471
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison waking up behind the wheel outside of lax problem,

472
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: that's a problem, okay, Like that's a little bit of

473
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: an issue. We need to have a discussion about that.

474
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: And then him going to social media afterwards and posting

475
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: a bottle of booze like probably not you know that

476
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: that that feels like that's a bit reckless. This could

477
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: be a guy and that did to your point, didn't

478
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: even realize he was speeding. But it also lends to

479
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: the actual old well, hey knew.

480
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: He was speeding.

481
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: Well, he probably knew he was speeding, but pretty much,

482
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: hey man, pretty much everybody speed when when you when

483
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: you're driving on a highway, which I don't even know

484
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: what if he was on a highway, I'm assuming sixty

485
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 3: miles per hour he was on some type of a highway. Bruh,

486
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: everybody is generally driving above the speed limit. Like, make

487
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: no mistake about that. Now, now is forty miles per

488
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: hour over the speed limit? Egregious, Yes it is. There's

489
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: no doubt about it. You're going fast. He knew he

490
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: was going fast. Question it, like, there's so many different

491
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: determining factors. Was he keeping up with traffic? Were there

492
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: other cars going as fast as he was. You know,

493
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: what was the scenario? Was he was he weaving? Was

494
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: this reckless driving? Was he weaving in and out of traffic?

495
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: I think if it's put in the proper context, then

496
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: it allows for you to make a more accurate judgment

497
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: of how good or how bad the offense was. But

498
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: again it comes down to the conversations he's going to

499
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: have with his coaching stat because I don't. Ultimately, the

500
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 3: question now becomes did he do something that makes it

501
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: easier for Cleveland to you know, move.

502
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: On from him?

503
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: And I you know, I saw once again here we Go.

504
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: I'm a reference because I do listen to the other shows.

505
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: I saw a comment from the one Rob Parker where

506
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: he's basically saying they need to release him, they need

507
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 3: to cutting right now.

508
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Based off of that Rob Robinson.

509
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Rob, you call him for this

510
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: man's job because he was he was speeding, like, come on, Rob.

511
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 7: I saw I saw Rob get a parking ticket at

512
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 7: KNBC when we were there, which he shouldn't have gotten,

513
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 7: and he was walking through the parking lot.

514
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: Like like Denzel Washington and training Day, take somebody out.

515
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: He looked like the guy in the wire walking through

516
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: the parking lot, trying to take somebody out because you

517
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: got a parking ticket on accident. If anybody should not

518
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: be talking about traffic violations and how this should impact

519
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: your career, it's Rob Parker. I saw it with my

520
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: own two we did a TV show Hockey.

521
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 4: I would loved.

522
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: There's no way he was able to keep a straight

523
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: face with that take. There's no way, no finances.

524
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: I just I just think that there's going to be

525
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: now he did himself no favors by getting pulled over.

526
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: But again, I think when you're in your own space,

527
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: you're driving, you're doing what you're doing your daily task.

528
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: I mean, we're being honest here. Man, Like the dude

529
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: was driving. If he was speeding, he was speeding, he

530
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: got the ticket, pay the fine or challenge it whatever.

531
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: I think what makes it complicated is if he were intoxicated,

532
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: if he were under the influence, like you mentioned earlier,

533
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: That now makes it a conversation, Jonas. But him speeding,

534
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: if he was racing, if it came out that he

535
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: was street racing somebody, that's a problem, But there doesn't

536
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: seem to be from the reports that I've seen. It's

537
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: just a simple he he was speeding, he got pulled over,

538
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 3: he got a ticket. Keep it moving, man, and I mean,

539
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: let's keep it moving.

540
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: But this also does point out the fact that this

541
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: is a story because it's shah Or Sanders and this

542
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: is and people aren't you know, probably are gonna maybe

543
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: disagree with this, But there is something to being loud

544
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: when you're not the starter. It's not a great place

545
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: to be if kes's not loud.

546
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: He got pulled o.

547
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: But it's loud because first of all, the time of year, Okay,

548
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals have gotten less interesting as the series

549
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: has gone on, especially the past couple of days, and

550
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: the time of year, the name that goes along with it,

551
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: and the fact that if this was Dylan Gabriel, probably

552
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: not a big story. If this was Kenny Pickett, probably

553
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: not a big story. If it was Joe Flacco, probably

554
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: not a big story. He's the loudest and most talked

555
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: about name in that room, and so because of it,

556
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: he's going to get talked about at nauseum because it's

557
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders and the quote unquote brand and ore that

558
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: he brings with him. The guy sped a little bit,

559
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: he got popped. He wasn't drinking and driving. This wasn't

560
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: a DUI situation. He didn't have some story made up. Remember,

561
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison also had a story made up to where

562
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: he was speeding because he was trying to get his

563
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: dog to the vet. I got news for you. If

564
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: a CoP's behind me and I'm trying to get my

565
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: dog to the vet, I'm throwing that thing out the window.

566
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, Well, I'm gonna be honest with you. I

567
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: got news for you. If my dog is dying and

568
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: I can save them and I'm rushing them to the

569
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: pet emergency room, that cop is going to have to

570
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: meet me there and he can arrest me me at

571
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: the place where.

572
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: I'm taking my dog.

573
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm blaming the dog.

574
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: I'm not blaming I'm I'm listen, and it is what

575
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: it is. It is what it is, mister Sticks.

576
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: Was if mister Sticks needed me to get him to

577
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: the emergency room, You're gonna have to follow me to

578
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: the emergency and in fact, you know, you know.

579
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: What I would do. I would actually put the dog

580
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: in the driver's seat and I had to hop in

581
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: thee so you can take You's so stupid and I'll

582
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: just I'll deal with the reprocessions when I get home.

583
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: Okay, Can I put a bow on this? Let me

584
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: put a bow on this.

585
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: From my perspective of Shador Sanders, there's there's there's a

586
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: few ways to look at it. The first way is

587
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: is this is this offense an out for the Cleveland Browns.

588
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: Do they leverage this as here's our golden, golden ticket

589
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 3: hand delivered on a platter to us to be able

590
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: to part ways with Shador Sanders. That's that's that's option

591
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: number one. Option number two is you show Shador Sanders

592
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: that you believe in him, and you know mistakes are made.

593
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: You know, you got a ticket, pay your ticket, you know,

594
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: try not to get speeding ticket, Shador like, slow it down,

595
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: you know, don't do anything that's going to bring this

596
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: type of attention on to you. Uh, getting to get

597
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: in the locker room, getting the training room, getting a

598
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: meeting room, whatever, UH see you at practice? Is it

599
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: is it just as simple as you made a mistake

600
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: moving on? Or is this is this the opportunity for

601
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: them to say, yep, this is something that we can

602
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: leverage without getting cause it would take something crazy for

603
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: them to get out from under cutting Shadoor Sanders. What

604
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: is your reasoning for doing it? And this could be

605
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: the possible, you know, way that they can leverage something

606
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: to let them go.

607
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: You want to know why it's not an out for

608
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: the Browns to get away from Shore Sanders, because the

609
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: Browns already had an out to get away from Shore Sanders.

610
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: It was called the first four rounds of the draft.

611
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: Dang they want it in Hey, they allowed too many

612
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: highlights to come out. Bro they could not They could

613
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: not leverage his draft. They could not leverage his draft

614
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: pick for any further than what they were going to

615
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: be able to do when they first drafted him. You know,

616
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: after all of the the OTA highlights that came out

617
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: and continuous coverage of Shador Sanders, they're not going to

618
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: be able to let him go based upon where he

619
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: was drafting because there's too much justification that he can

620
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: play at that level from the highlights that have been

621
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: released repeatedly of what he's doing in practices. Do you

622
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: think if he shows up to court to fight the ticket,

623
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: that mel Kiper will also show up for support. Do

624
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: you think that will.

625
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: Tell the judge that this is just a man that

626
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 3: there's not enough scrutiny on in turn or there's too

627
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: much scrutiny on them, and you guys don't know how

628
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 3: quarterbacks drive trucks, and I don't know.

629
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: Man Melkiper will blame the traffic people and say, well,

630
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: you know, the speed limit sign wasn't visible enough for sure,

631
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: so that's why you should not have to pay this

632
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 2: two fifty.

633
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: Just really unfortunate. It's just really truly unfortunate that you

634
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: got to take something as trivial as getting pulled over

635
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: for speeding. And again, the only reason why I'm saying

636
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: it because I'm not saying break the law. I mean, hell,

637
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: I was speeding this morning. You know, I was speeding.

638
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: You know, I think I was doing fifty and a

639
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 3: thirty five this morning. Like sorry, I was just driving.

640
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: You know, I was driving my son's car. It's a

641
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: it's a it's a muscle car. It's one of them

642
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: chargers or whatever. Not not the charger, what's the bigger

643
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: body ones? Not not the charger, but the other one.

644
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 4: What is that?

645
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 3: SRTs bro Come on, anyway, I was driving his car

646
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: and it's fast, it's a strong car. So we're driving.

647
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm driving I'm not purposely or being dismissive of the

648
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: speed limit.

649
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 4: I'm just driving.

650
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: So if there's nothing connected to him speeding, it's just

651
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: the speeding ticket. Moving on, there's no reason to have

652
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: no hot take Rob on saying this man needs to

653
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: be cut immediately because he got cited for speeding ticket.

654
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: Like, get out of here with that og. Y'all had notice.

655
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: I'm taking pop shots by Rob Parker until I get

656
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 3: it out of my system that I'm with you people,

657
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: some of these people at Fox Sports Radio, Like I

658
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: know I was one of these people. It was my

659
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: quote directly. So I'm going at og yeah a few

660
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 3: more times until I get it all out because I'm petty.

661
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, Lee, wh aren't you cut this

662
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: up and send it over to Robert Guiera and let

663
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: him let Rob get a whiff of this.

664
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Speaker 4: I'm petty.

665
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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

666
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

667
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

668
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: Right now, it is a Thursday tradition on its own.

669
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Speaker 2: The one and only Albert Breer joining us here on

670
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: FSR Amazon, NFL on Prime Insider, senior NFL reporter, lead

671
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: content strategists at the MMQB and you get him on

672
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: X at Albert Breer, ab uh, I know it was

673
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: rough seeing your guy, Brad Marshan celebrate the Stanley Cup

674
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: with another franchise. So I'm glad you're able to make

675
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Speaker 2: time for us this morning.

676
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Speaker 5: Oh it's fine, it's fine. Hey, I'm just happy that

677
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 5: that hockey hotbed at Florida got their with Stanley Cup.

678
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: Right, It's like the Marlins winning World Series. It's like,

679
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

680
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

681
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 8: It is funny though, it's like I mean, I you know,

682
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 8: I and I look, I can have some fun with

683
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 8: people on it, and I understand there are people in

684
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 8: Florida that are passionate about the Panthers, but like, I mean, like,

685
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 8: what are you talking about here?

686
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 5: You know, they're sending me pictures of the elbow room,

687
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: which is great, Like, you know, you got whatever, maybe

688
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: like a thousand people like at a bar. It's not

689
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 5: like two million people in a parade. But you know,

690
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 5: we don't need to argue that and have to see

691
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: people to out Florida, you know, and and look like

692
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 5: that team is unbelievable. I mean, I don't know how

693
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 5: much of it you guys watched, but there were points

694
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: when that team was completely unstoppable with a real jumper

695
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 5: or not.

696
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would go they would go on runs, and

697
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: it was like Edmonton, even with the best player in

698
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: the world, had no there was no chance, yeah right,

699
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: just no opportunity. All right. So from everything, like, I've

700
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: started to see stuff come out in the last couple

701
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: of days that the expectation or the want is that

702
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 2: these Steelers and TJ. Watt can come to some sort

703
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: of a deal before training camp. We're looking at about

704
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 2: a month away from that. Is that a realistic expectation

705
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: or is that stuff that's out there?

706
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Sure, I don't see why not. I mean, I

707
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 5: think the market to some degree has been defined. You know,

708
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 5: Max Crosby got a got a deal with the Neil Hunter.

709
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 4: Got a deal.

710
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Speaker 5: You know. I think you know, we've seen now guys

711
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 5: steeper into their careers getting rewarded, you know, and and

712
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 5: looks like I think TJ has got like a fair

713
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: amount of leverage here. This is built for him in

714
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 5: a lot of ways, you know, him and Samenka and

715
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 5: Cam Hayward like going and getting Aaron Rodgers, Like that's

716
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 5: a swing for those guys at the swing for that core,

717
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 5: and you know, in that way, I think like tg

718
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 5: WAT kind of has them back into a corner a

719
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 5: little bit, you know, like this is not the year

720
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 5: where you fail around with stuff like that. So I

721
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 5: would think that they want to hit the ground running

722
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 5: up here answering all the questions. I'll spring when they

723
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Speaker 5: get the training camp, and I would think that they'll

724
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Speaker 5: be able to find some sort of middle ground. I

725
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Speaker 5: don't know if it'll be before the certain training camp,

726
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Speaker 5: and I think it's a realistic goal. A B.

727
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Speaker 3: Speaking of defensive ends getting paid, Miles Garrett got paid.

728
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Speaker 3: Jonas Knox seems to think that he has had a

729
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: horrible impact and influence on his teammates, and one in particular,

730
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Speaker 3: Shador Sanders, stating that that he just got in trouble

731
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Speaker 3: for getting that speeding ticket based off of trying to

732
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Speaker 3: be just like Miles Garrett.

733
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Speaker 4: Do you find this to be accurate information?

734
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Speaker 5: Wow, It's like it's kind of like the would that

735
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 5: be like the kid that your parents didn't want to

736
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 5: get that way? Yeah? Yeah, because like for a little while,

737
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Speaker 5: like when I was a kid that was me. I

738
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Speaker 5: was a kid that they do. Yeah, no, I I uh,

739
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Speaker 5: I like, I like. I think it's an interesting dynamic

740
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 5: down there, for sure, in a lot of different ways.

741
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Speaker 5: And I don't know exactly where where they're going with

742
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 5: it next, you know, I would say, like the Shaduur thing,

743
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 5: I think the amount of noises that the amount of

744
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 5: the amount of noises count it's creating on the outside

745
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Speaker 5: doesn't match the amount of buzz in the building. I mean,

746
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Speaker 5: I think I think Shador has done a nice job

747
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Speaker 5: of making progress, but I think he had more ground

748
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Speaker 5: to make up than the other rookie quarterback there, Dylan Gabriel.

749
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 5: And that's why Dylan Gabriel got more team wraps in

750
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: the spring, you know. And so I know why we're

751
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 5: all focused on it, Like, I'm not blind to that,

752
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 5: and I'm not going to pretend that there's no reason

753
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 5: that we're all making a big deal out of the story,

754
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 5: you know, But I don't like. I think I think,

755
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 5: you know, Chadur, the best thing for him to do

756
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 5: this whole time has been to carry himself like he's

757
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 5: a fortieth or fiftieth or sixtieth guy in the roster

758
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 5: because right now, that's what he is. And so generally

759
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 5: with guys that are that far down the roster, you

760
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 5: have a little less tolerance for stuff like this. So

761
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 5: it's not a killer, of course, you know, but you know,

762
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Speaker 5: I think it is something you file away. I like,

763
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Speaker 5: I don't I don't make that big a deal out

764
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Speaker 5: of it. Now, this was like street racing and the

765
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 5: stuff that like, I mean, like the Georgia guys are

766
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 5: getting in trouble. For me, we're talking about something else.

767
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Speaker 5: If it turns out to be that, then that might

768
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Speaker 5: be something else. You know, it's not what you're looking for,

769
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Speaker 5: But I don't think it's the end of the world.

770
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Speaker 2: Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So

771
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Speaker 2: the Jay R Alexander signing in Baltimore, we were talking

772
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Speaker 2: about this earlier in the show, and it just it

773
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Speaker 2: feels like I'm always willing to give Baltimore the benefit

774
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Speaker 2: of the doubt when they make a signing because it

775
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: just like Jay R. Alexander. Look, I think the deals

776
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Speaker 2: you can max out at six million dollars, it feels

777
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: like more of a kick your tie, kick the tie

778
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: deal on a guy who just hasn't been able to

779
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: stay healthy. But it just feels like that of all

780
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: organizations in the NFL from people you've talked to, does

781
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: that feel like the best landing for a player in

782
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: Jay R Alexander's position, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It does. I mean, I think I think the process

784
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 5: probably proved the Packers right. The Packers weren't going to

785
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 5: pay him seventeen and a half million dollars this year.

786
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 5: And the reason why it wasn't because of ability. It

787
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 5: was because of availability, you know, and like they know

788
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 5: what he's capable of, but he just couldn't keep himself

789
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 5: on the field, and he you know, he lost ten

790
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: games in twenty twenty three, he lost ten games in

791
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. That's twenty versus fourteen played over the

792
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 5: last two years. And it just got to the point

793
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 5: where they couldn't invest that amount of money, you know,

794
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Speaker 5: in that position. So what they wanted to do is

795
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 5: they wanted to bring him back on a deal where

796
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 5: he'd be taking a pay cut and then you have

797
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 5: a chance to make some of that incentives that were

798
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 5: tied to playtime. Where does he go out and sign

799
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 5: It's exactly the sort of ideal of these signs. Now,

800
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 5: like I will say this once. Sometimes it takes going

801
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 5: through that for a guy to come to grips with

802
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 5: the fact that he's not going to make what he

803
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 5: was hoping to make. And I it does feel to

804
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 5: me a little bit like once, you know, Jai Alexander

805
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 5: came to grips with the fact that no one was

806
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 5: going to take on the contract because he wasn't going

807
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 5: to be traded like that. The the idea of trading

808
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 5: him and shopping him had kind of proven that out,

809
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 5: like that no one was going to pay him that much.

810
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: Otherwise the Packers would have traded him, and he got

811
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 5: himself out onto the market. Then he pivots and he

812
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 5: makes the decision to go to the place of the

813
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 5: best football situation. And the Ravens have great, great, great

814
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 5: history of guy of taking on guys on their third contracts,

815
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 5: like near or near to the end of their careers.

816
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 5: And so you know, you're talking about over the last

817
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: ten years, guys like mark Ingram, guys like Kevin Zeitler,

818
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 5: guy is like Judevian Clowney, you know, Kyle van Noy

819
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 5: is another great example of it. Like they have done

820
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: it time and time again, and so it's a great

821
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 5: place from a football respect for obvious reasons because they

822
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: win and they played great defense and all that. But

823
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 5: it's also been a great place for older players who

824
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 5: are who are on their third contracts, which is where

825
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 5: j Alexander is now.

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Speaker 3: Abey We we found out today that Ed Policy, who

827
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: works for our producer Lead the Lap, spoke about the

828
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Speaker 3: philosophy Leah.

829
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Speaker 5: I didn't know that is Leah is Leah.

830
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Speaker 3: Leah is an owner. Uh, he's a shareholder. Uh, and

831
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: sent us proof of it of him doing it.

832
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 5: It's good, like over the fireplace like most people in Wisconsin.

833
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't even have it.

834
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Speaker 7: He doesn't.

835
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: He just has a picture of him doing it owns meeting.

836
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: So you get that fake actuity. You don't even have

837
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 5: the certificate.

838
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: I got the certificate. It's some where like Albert. It's

839
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: like when you're when you're nineteen and you go out

840
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: without your fake idea. It's like, trust me, I'm twenty one.

841
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: It's like, come on, like, well what are we doing here?

842
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: Uh?

843
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 5: But I actually have talked my way into some places. Uh.

844
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: Fairy well, I'm just I'm just excited for Lee to

845
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: have ownership over his favorite in his favorite team. But

846
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: at policy came out and he spoke about, you know,

847
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: his philosophy on extensions for hey coaches, and it just

848
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: led to the conversation of, uh, in our show, what

849
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: what does Lafleur have to do to get an extension?

850
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 3: I mean, don't we think he's done enough at this point?

851
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 5: Well, I mean he's already on his second contract, I believe, right, Like,

852
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 5: because he's six years, it's gonna be a six years.

853
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 5: So he's on a second contract already. You know, I

854
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 5: think him and Brian Goudakas has done a nice job.

855
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 5: I also understand like where you know, you want to

856
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 5: you know, establish yourself a little bit first. Now I've

857
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 5: said this forever, Like I think Matt laflor like his

858
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 5: coaching record for I mean, for the way he's he's

859
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 5: perceived sometimes you know, it's really really good. You know,

860
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 5: he won thirteen games his first three years in a row.

861
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 5: He was able to transition them out of the Aaron

862
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 5: Rodgers era and into the Jordan Love era and and

863
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 5: did that effectively. And they've you know, they've the last

864
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 5: three years, they've they've improved year over year. So like

865
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 5: I I I think the world of Mattelaflora, and you know,

866
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: I think you know his management of so many different

867
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 5: situations there in Green Bays and outstanding. You know. I

868
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 5: also I also know this like that you know, going

869
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 5: into now this will be his seventh year in charge

870
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 5: in Green Bay. He you know, like I having been

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Speaker 5: extended already. You know, I can understand where like a

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Speaker 5: new president comes in and he wants to get the

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Speaker 5: lay of the land first before he engages in contract negotiations.

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Speaker 5: So like I get both sides of that one and

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Speaker 5: doesn't stun me. I don't think it puts either Goody

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Speaker 5: or Lafleur on any sort of shaky ground there.

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Speaker 2: Albert Brera, last one for me. So I know that

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Speaker 2: you had done a little bit of a preview and

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Speaker 2: looking at the NFC East and we were talking about

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Speaker 2: the Giant situation earlier this week, and it feels like

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Speaker 2: they're in an interesting spot because Brian Dayball and Joe

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Speaker 2: Shane it's almost like last call, like this is it,

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Speaker 2: and they were brought back. They drafted Jackson Dart, They've

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Speaker 2: got Russell Wilson. You look at their schedule, it's not easy.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just wondering, could you see them maybe going

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Speaker 2: to Jackson Dart sooner rather than later, just from the

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Speaker 2: standpoint that if they can't sell to Mars on wins,

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Speaker 2: at least being able to sell them on hope for

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Speaker 2: next year and development of a young quarter back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it depends on two things, you know. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: the obvious one is the development Jackson Dart, how ready

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Speaker 5: he is to play, and you heard varying things on that.

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Speaker 5: The one thing I do think helps is like that

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Speaker 5: Brian day Ball does have connections in that Old Miss program,

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Speaker 5: So he's going to have like a pretty good handle

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Speaker 5: of what Jackson Dart Cannon can't do based on some

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Speaker 5: of the stronger relationships he has with the people there.

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Speaker 5: You know, Joe Judge was Jackson Dart's quarterbacks coach. Joe

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Speaker 5: and Brian were together in New England. Charlie Weiss is

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Speaker 5: actually Brian Table's mentor and his son is the offensive

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Speaker 5: coordinator at Old Miss, so he'll be able to get

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Speaker 5: good information on what he can and can't do. So,

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Speaker 5: like the development piece of it's important obviously if you're

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Speaker 5: going to feel comfortable putting him in there. Number two

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Speaker 5: is just the state of the team and you know, like,

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Speaker 5: how does that match up with his development? Like if

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Speaker 5: he's the best quarterback in camp, then we're not then

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Speaker 5: we're probably talking about something else. But if he isn't, okay,

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Speaker 5: like if the team is you know, one in four,

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Speaker 5: well then it's a lot easier to put Jackson Dart

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Speaker 5: in there to try to give him a spark. If

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Speaker 5: they're winning, then that's something else, you know. So I

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Speaker 5: think there are just some moving parts that complicated a

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Speaker 5: little bit. And I think a big part of it too,

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Speaker 5: is like this isn't a team that is, you know,

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Speaker 5: devoid of proud veteran players that you have a lot

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Speaker 5: of skins in the wall, and it's like Brian Burns

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Speaker 5: and keve On Thibodeaux and obviously Dexter Lawrence and Andrew

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Speaker 5: Thomas and so you know, like as far as just

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Speaker 5: kind of keeping those guys locked in and engage, you

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Speaker 5: have to give them the best answer at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 5: And if they know you're not doing that, if they

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Speaker 5: know you're doing something to save your job, then you

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Speaker 5: risk losing them. So I think it's complicated from that perspective.

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Speaker 5: The best case scenario, of course, is that Dark develops

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Speaker 5: really fast, and he is the best answer for you.

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Speaker 5: And then you know, you play relatively well over the

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Speaker 5: course of the year, and the mari don't want to

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Speaker 5: turn everything upside down on the young quarterback, and you

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Speaker 5: get another year and now you can really prove it

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Speaker 5: in twenty six. You know, we'll see what happens. But

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't think it's just a straight line

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Speaker 5: thing where it's like you can talk this scheme to

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Speaker 5: just throw Jackson Dart in there to give the ownership

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Speaker 5: some hope, because I don't know how you keep the

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Speaker 5: rest of the team engaged if he's not the best.

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Speaker 2: Answer, get him on X at Albert Brier AB. We

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Speaker 2: always appreciate it. Let's do it again next week, all right.

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Speaker 5: Thanks there.

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Speaker 2: He is Albert Brier, Amazon, NFL on Prime Insider, senior

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Speaker 2: NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB with us

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.