Speaker 1: From the King of Sports Books. Who comes the Key
Speaker 1: Sports podcast Unleashed presented by MGM. You're your host, Speedy
Speaker 1: Mormon and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: I'm Speedy Mormon, joined as always by Olivia Harland Decker
Speaker 1: and this is Unleashed from the King of Sports Books
Speaker 1: Bet MGM, and we've got a great episode lined up
Speaker 1: for you guys. This week, We've got Portland's Trailblazer, star
Speaker 1: podcaster and vintner c J McCollum on the show to
Speaker 1: talk wine being on a Cinderella team and his life
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Olivia, I'm so excited for that conversation.
Speaker 1: You took the lead on it and I can't wait
Speaker 1: for the people to hear it. We're all also going
Speaker 1: to be talking about how dad's, even famous dads can
Speaker 1: embarrass us even when they think that they're helping out.
Speaker 1: And then, finally, on this week's Lions Lock, Peter Andrew
Speaker 1: is back from bet MGM. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: what Vegas got wrong and what they got right and
Speaker 1: his locks for the Sweet six team. But first let's
Speaker 1: jump into some NBA trade talk. Olivia, we spoke about
Speaker 1: a bunch of the trades that we thought may happen
Speaker 1: last week, But here we are now a week later.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, how are our predictions and what do you
Speaker 1: make of all of the big moves that happened in
Speaker 1: the league? YEA speedy with this stuff. Sometimes it's more
Speaker 1: of what didn't happen that is important. In NBA's top
Speaker 1: contenders really stayed mostly quiet. Nothing to blockbuster, but the Clippers,
Speaker 1: they're currently third in the West. They get ra Gen
Speaker 1: Rondo for Lemon Pepper Lou Williams. He goes home to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: a magic city, celebrating it. So I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: concerned about him going there. Oh for him, Hey, he's
Speaker 1: got lou Willville. He's good. He's got a lot of
Speaker 1: friends in Atlanta, my man, So he is um. He
Speaker 1: is celebrating, as is the city. But it's great for
Speaker 1: the Clippers. They now have a true point guard, Rondo
Speaker 1: one with the Lakers last year. He's comfortable and staple,
Speaker 1: so I like that move. The Orlando Magic was busy
Speaker 1: as expected. They did trade off Evan Fournier Aaron Gordon,
Speaker 1: but the real surprise with the Orlando was they got
Speaker 1: rid of All Star center Nakola Vusovich. He's going to Chicago.
Speaker 1: Vosovic is the only All Star that was dealt at
Speaker 1: the deadline, So that's that's important. And the Bulls now
Speaker 1: are really showing that they're trying to make a push
Speaker 1: into the playoff conversation. With this move, he averages twenty
Speaker 1: four and eleven. So he joined Zach Lavine and Company
Speaker 1: and they're currently tenth in the East, trying to push
Speaker 1: make that top eight. The biggest thing Toronto did not
Speaker 1: trade point guard Kyle Lowry. That was kind of a buzz.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna stay or go? He's a free agent
Speaker 1: this summer, thirty five years old, but he's asking for
Speaker 1: a lot of money, as he should. But you know,
Speaker 1: Adam Leftco told us last week he really wanted him
Speaker 1: to go to Philly. There's also some talk of him
Speaker 1: going to l a to play for the Lakers. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't there something Adam said last week he played
Speaker 1: against him in a a U in Philadelphia. He did.
Speaker 1: He was just name dropping. I think we're all guilty
Speaker 1: of that. But you know, the Raptors did sell High
Speaker 1: and Norman Powell. They got Gary Trent Jr. And Rodney
Speaker 1: Hood from Portland feel here. Actually, later in the show,
Speaker 1: their former teammates C J. McCollum was telling me about
Speaker 1: that and just how bizarre it is when your teammates
Speaker 1: are traded away. So anyways, I think the Sads more
Speaker 1: offense to the Blazers. Pale is a more kind of
Speaker 1: dynamic shooter. He's having a great three point shooting season.
Speaker 1: He's shooting from three. So that's all very exciting. But
Speaker 1: over to the East, seven time All Star, LaMarcus Aldridge
Speaker 1: goes to the Nets. You're broking Net. They've got Kyrie,
Speaker 1: They've got k D who's still struggling with the hamstring
Speaker 1: reported not returning this week. James hard and Blake Griffin
Speaker 1: now LaMarcus DeAndre Jordan's and they're coached by Steve Nash
Speaker 1: with Mike D'Antoni on the bench. And as we record,
Speaker 1: the Spety their second in the East behind Philly just
Speaker 1: by one game. But how excited are you? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's the most exciting roster we've seen in a
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, I'm I'm not necessarily a super Nets fan,
Speaker 1: but them assembling this monstars type roster is making me
Speaker 1: gravitate towards them more and more. I think that the
Speaker 1: fact that they're able to start five All Stars is absurd.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really at this point feeling like it's
Speaker 1: their finals to lose. I mean, I would love to
Speaker 1: see them go up against l A, who just picked
Speaker 1: up big man Andre Drummond. I think that is a
Speaker 1: nice addition for l A. But talk about just from
Speaker 1: a swag perspective, like who's killing it more than Brooklyn
Speaker 1: right now? I don't know, Atlanta maybe now with lou
Speaker 1: Will they got Tred Young, but you know in Brooklyn
Speaker 1: you've got Kyrie k D of course Hardened. We're talking
Speaker 1: about some of the swaggies players in the league. So
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see them on the court obviously, but
Speaker 1: also off the court, just bringing a swag that energy
Speaker 1: that the city needs. I think the swag is a
Speaker 1: perfect word word for Their colors are kind of like
Speaker 1: dangerous looking about it. My favorite thing about doing a
Speaker 1: game at Barclay's too. I don't know if you feel
Speaker 1: the same way anytime you walk in there. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's so so beautiful. The court is so beautiful. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: You get off the subway right there, like at the
Speaker 1: front door. It's it's awesome, But it always to me
Speaker 1: smells like chocolate chip cookies. I've asked, I've asked someone
Speaker 1: who works at Barclays, why does it smell so amazing
Speaker 1: in here like chocolate chip cookies. They said they pump
Speaker 1: in sense of that in the sweets. No way, that's
Speaker 1: what they don't. Try to keep the money in the building. Hey,
Speaker 1: the money staying in the building, but they're spending a
Speaker 1: lot of money to Wow. Yeah, I've been in there.
Speaker 1: I have, I must. I've been in a suite in
Speaker 1: the Barclays, and I've been in a suite at MSG
Speaker 1: with the Knicks play, and the suits to me at
Speaker 1: the Barclays are superior to that of the Garden. So
Speaker 1: I can understand why I feel this way. Now, maybe
Speaker 1: it's because low key they've been sneaking in chocolate chip
Speaker 1: cookie sense just to make me want to come back. No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But I thought I thought the Nets were your team though,
Speaker 1: But are you kind of split with the Knicks? No? See,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I used to be a super Kobe fan, right, Obviously,
Speaker 1: the late great Kobe Bryant is no longer with us.
Speaker 1: And then after him, I was like, all right, I
Speaker 1: have no reason to root for l A anymore, so
Speaker 1: I have to come home to New York. And so
Speaker 1: I've always just kind of casually like split my fandom
Speaker 1: between Brooklyn and New York, which was fair because they
Speaker 1: both stunck, you know, like neither of them were really winning,
Speaker 1: they weren't really doing much. But now it looks like
Speaker 1: the Knicks are gonna make the playoffs. It looks like
Speaker 1: the Nets are also going to make the playoffs. But
Speaker 1: just from like a flavor perspective, yeah, I gotta go
Speaker 1: with Brooklyn. It's you know, it's just different, and even
Speaker 1: just the energy around the arena, you know, like when
Speaker 1: you're around in downtown Brooklyn versus like midtown Manhattan, it's
Speaker 1: just a different vibe, the vibe even like you said,
Speaker 1: the colors, the jersey, just like everything about the Nets
Speaker 1: just brings that aura of like real gritty New York.
Speaker 1: And that's why they're so fun to root for. Now.
Speaker 1: I hear you, and you are nothing if not flavorful,
Speaker 1: my friend. I feel like, if you say something's cool,
Speaker 1: it is very cool. So the fact that you sign
Speaker 1: off on that, I can get behind the Nets too.
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely honored at that compliment, maybe a top five
Speaker 1: compliment I've ever been given in my life. Now, coming
Speaker 1: up next here on Unleashed, we've got c J McCollum on.
Speaker 1: He's gonna sit down with Olivia. I'm sitting this one out,
Speaker 1: but I'm excited for the people to hear your conversation.
Speaker 1: What can the people expect in just a minute, will
Speaker 1: we talk about our weddings? We talk about wine, um,
Speaker 1: everything in between and including this past three agency and
Speaker 1: in trade deadline, and then what the Blazers need to
Speaker 1: do to stay focused. You know, he's coming off an
Speaker 1: injury in January, and and it's interesting to see how
Speaker 1: this truncated NBA season and schedule is affecting players kind
Speaker 1: of mentally as well. So it was a great conversation.
Speaker 1: Fire can't wait. Let's get it to it. Ce J,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on the show. I'm
Speaker 1: especially eager to talk to you right now, well about
Speaker 1: about two things. Your wine label, which I don't even
Speaker 1: know if you know this, but your people are sending
Speaker 1: me some bottles and I cannot wait to try it,
Speaker 1: the new Rose. And then I'm also very excited to
Speaker 1: talk to you about your n C Double A tournaments.
Speaker 1: Really two of them that put le High on the map.
Speaker 1: And if you're okay, I want to start there because
Speaker 1: it was it put you on the national radar. For sure.
Speaker 1: You had already won conference Player of the Year a
Speaker 1: couple of years, but to make this run as a
Speaker 1: sick team seed and then as a fifteen seed when
Speaker 1: you upset Duke, do you feel like now the further
Speaker 1: removed you are from that and as you watch these
Speaker 1: games now, does it kind of hit you different, thinking, Wow,
Speaker 1: we really pulled that off. Yeah, it's it's definitely weird
Speaker 1: watching the highlights, seeing the baby face, the jersey swinging,
Speaker 1: it takes me back to a lot of my collegiate memories.
Speaker 1: But it was a lot of fun and I'm thankful
Speaker 1: for the opportunity and the experience to be able to
Speaker 1: play in the tournament. As you said before, I had
Speaker 1: success in my conference, but I think from a national standpoint,
Speaker 1: that stage is as big as it gets for collegiate athletes.
Speaker 1: And to be able to play against Duke, not the
Speaker 1: goliath coach k the team that has all those NBA
Speaker 1: players for me to be able to play against them
Speaker 1: and have success and be able to help my team win.
Speaker 1: It kind of stamped me as a as a guy
Speaker 1: who can play at the highest level. You had thirty
Speaker 1: I want to say in that game against Duke, did
Speaker 1: you feel the pressure of this is an NBA audition? Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: It's it's the it's the opportunity you relish like you
Speaker 1: look forward to a chance to kind of solidify. I
Speaker 1: always say, like, I always know who I am, and
Speaker 1: I think highly of myself, but that's your chance to
Speaker 1: kind of show people who you think you are. And
Speaker 1: if I would have performed not so well, I don't
Speaker 1: think my situation would have probably turned out the same.
Speaker 1: But from a pressure standpoint and our pressures, as the
Speaker 1: saying goes, pressures, you know, the single mother trying to
Speaker 1: provide for her children. Pressure is the is the person
Speaker 1: who is trying to figure out how their next meal
Speaker 1: is gonna come. For me, it's just a basketball game
Speaker 1: that I've played my whole life, and it's my escape,
Speaker 1: it's my happiness, is my piece. It allows me to
Speaker 1: be able to potentially take care of my family, which
Speaker 1: is what I do now. At the time, I was
Speaker 1: just thinking I've worked hard, I've put the time in,
Speaker 1: just show up, and whatever is meant to be will be.
Speaker 1: And that's what kind of happened for me. I know
Speaker 1: that gms and scouts really look at your resume as
Speaker 1: a whole, but I cannot imagine at that age And
Speaker 1: was that your junior year, were you? Yeah? Junior, I
Speaker 1: was twenty, So at twenty years old, I don't think
Speaker 1: most people can wrap their heads around that. That truly
Speaker 1: a life altering night in that game. And you've got
Speaker 1: to think that that caused a lot of separation for you.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's crazy. How would you describe that
Speaker 1: to someone who doesn't understand that. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: went from relatively unknown to like Justin Bieber and like
Speaker 1: celebrities tweeting and being on the ESPN Sports Center speaking
Speaker 1: to Charles Barkley Shack. So it was a little weird
Speaker 1: for me personally because I'm just like a small school kid.
Speaker 1: I grew up in cant Ohio, small city steel mills.
Speaker 1: You just you show up and you do your job
Speaker 1: and you go home type of mentality. So it was
Speaker 1: just more exposure for me to kind of being a
Speaker 1: national spotlight that I'm showing my highlights too. Being talked
Speaker 1: about as NBA player to the next that actual summer,
Speaker 1: I end up declaring for the draft, going back to school,
Speaker 1: and then I start the season off as a preseason
Speaker 1: first team All American. So it kind of put me
Speaker 1: in the spotlight as a guy who is elite at
Speaker 1: his position, a guy who has a chance to become
Speaker 1: an NBA player, and someone who perform as well in
Speaker 1: the bright stage. It's just crazy to think the course
Speaker 1: of history just how easily it could have gone another way.
Speaker 1: And then obviously you've deserved improving yourself at this level.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. My husband played on the two Wisconsin teams
Speaker 1: who went to back to back Final four's, played in
Speaker 1: the National Championship, and then himself and Frank Kaminski end
Speaker 1: up being the only players drafted from that team. And
Speaker 1: he always says, and I know Frank agrees, and I'm
Speaker 1: curious if you have the same experience, There's something very
Speaker 1: different about how much fun you're having playing the game
Speaker 1: at that level. You know, in college, it's like your
Speaker 1: teammates are your roommates, your parents are friends, they travel
Speaker 1: to games together, your girlfriends are friends. It's just so intimate,
Speaker 1: and I'm just curious if you have the same experience
Speaker 1: as then comparing it to the NBA from just a
Speaker 1: kind of fun and camaraderie standpoint, when guys are traded
Speaker 1: left and right all the time. Yeah, I thought I've
Speaker 1: seen the decker. I thought that was you. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's I think he's right, he's spot on.
Speaker 1: The The experience you have in colleges is unique in itself,
Speaker 1: and it's unlike anything you've ever experienced from the dorm rooms.
Speaker 1: It's always joke. It's the only time in your life
Speaker 1: to where you have freedom with no responsibility. The only
Speaker 1: responsibility is to go to class and to go to practice.
Speaker 1: There's no real repercussions for doing so many things you
Speaker 1: can do as a professional athlete that will be in
Speaker 1: the spotlight. So I think that's the funnest time. Like
Speaker 1: you said before, the girlfriends are close, the parents are
Speaker 1: coming to games. I remember my mom and dad would
Speaker 1: come out for games, to come out for the conference championship,
Speaker 1: we go eat at the dining hall. You kind of
Speaker 1: do all of those things, and then you move off
Speaker 1: campus and get a house, and that's really the only
Speaker 1: time you have responsibility is to pay your rent. Which
Speaker 1: you get a check from the team or a check
Speaker 1: from the university. But to now being in the NBA,
Speaker 1: the deadline just passed. You talked about guys getting traded.
Speaker 1: We had Gary Trent Jr. And Rodney Hood get traded
Speaker 1: while we're in Miami to the Toronto Raptors who are
Speaker 1: based in Tampa, only to go play against them two
Speaker 1: days later. It was super weird. It was It was crazy.
Speaker 1: That kind of shows you the the business of basketball
Speaker 1: and how in college like guys might transfer, coach might
Speaker 1: just leave. But very rarely do you have to worry
Speaker 1: about like your friends being traded within like the middle
Speaker 1: of the season. Oh absolutely yeah. I remember one time
Speaker 1: Sam played four years in the league and he was
Speaker 1: traded from Cleveland to Washington and they were playing the
Speaker 1: Wizards the next day and he's like, I know I'll
Speaker 1: be in the building. I just don't know what jersey
Speaker 1: I'm wearing, Like, I really don't. It's crazy. It's just crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't think most people understand that dynamic of it.
Speaker 1: But all of your interests off the court, I think
Speaker 1: make you so interesting to the average NBA fan, regardless
Speaker 1: of who your team is. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people can get behind you, and you've handled yourself with
Speaker 1: such class. And now this new project of the wine.
Speaker 1: Tell me how that even started. Because obviously where you
Speaker 1: are in organ is such a hotbed for this and
Speaker 1: such a famous region. And my wife introduced me to
Speaker 1: it in college. Obviously we were off a drinking auge.
Speaker 1: Such she introduced me, and I wasn't a big fan
Speaker 1: of it. And as I pursued her, and as I
Speaker 1: kind of matured and my palette kind of evolved, I
Speaker 1: began to like it more. Your fast forward, I get
Speaker 1: drafted by the Blazers and I taste my first Oregon pino.
Speaker 1: It was Walter Scott. It was volcanic soil from from
Speaker 1: Bryant Creek, and I fell in love. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is actually good. Like I hadn't tasted like high
Speaker 1: quality pino before. I had no idea what volcanic soil
Speaker 1: even was until I read the label and like learned
Speaker 1: about it. But fast boards some more and I started
Speaker 1: going to like Shela Mountains, I started going to Willama Valley.
Speaker 1: Et takes me to some wineries. Evan turned and shout
Speaker 1: out to my guy, and that's when everything kind of turned,
Speaker 1: I became fascinated with it. End up, you know, having
Speaker 1: a six hundred, seven hundred bottle seller. I started becoming
Speaker 1: a member at different wineries and I told my agency, like,
Speaker 1: I really enjoy wine. I would like to learn more
Speaker 1: about it. Next thing, you know, I'm having conversations with
Speaker 1: Adol sim about a potential partnership in which I kind
Speaker 1: of get to the terms. You know what it looks
Speaker 1: like from educational standpoint of learning about wine, learning about
Speaker 1: the business of wine. Gina the winemaker would kind of
Speaker 1: walk me through the process of tasting different varietals and
Speaker 1: potentially I'll be able to design my own label, put
Speaker 1: my own name on it, and start my own line.
Speaker 1: And here I am now with McCollum herritage. Just put
Speaker 1: out a rose or rose will be coming out in
Speaker 1: a week. I had a two eighteen penot Nework going
Speaker 1: sell in September of last year that sold out pretty
Speaker 1: fast and minutes. Yeah, should have made more, I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's kind of the process. And my right heritage
Speaker 1: was your nickname as a kid, no, c J. Well,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of nicknames, but CJS probably the one.
Speaker 1: But I grew up on Heritage Avenue, so that was
Speaker 1: actually the street that I grew up on. So that's
Speaker 1: that's probably with my heritage, and I'm just big on
Speaker 1: my heritage in general. So that's heritage. But my wife's
Speaker 1: favorite flowers and theorim flowers, so that's the flower I
Speaker 1: put on the bottom. That's so awesome. We'll see. J
Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of selfishly interested in the process of
Speaker 1: making your own wine because it's something I've always thought
Speaker 1: i'd maybe get into down the road. I used to
Speaker 1: work at a vineyard in summers in college, and UM
Speaker 1: have always loved experiencing that, traveling to the Bordeaux Valley,
Speaker 1: Loire Valley, Kiante, and and learning more about the business.
Speaker 1: So tell me, how do you even start curating your
Speaker 1: own bottle? It's tough, but depending on what you're into.
Speaker 1: For me, it was more about education. I factored in
Speaker 1: two things, right, quality of wine, what type of wine
Speaker 1: is it? What type of wine do I like? What
Speaker 1: type of education can I gain from this? And then
Speaker 1: from a live sustainability standpoint, their life certified, which means
Speaker 1: they care about the environment. So I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that I approached it in a way in which
Speaker 1: I'm not being a detriment to society. I'm also educating
Speaker 1: myself and I'm able to enjoy a great product, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great options in the will Emmy
Speaker 1: Valley and in the Shahalen Mountains. But out of sim
Speaker 1: just kind of made sense to me if like an
Speaker 1: authentic partnership. It felt genuine, It felt like it was
Speaker 1: the right thing for me to do, and so far
Speaker 1: we've had nothing but pleasant experiences together and being able
Speaker 1: to collaborate on a lot of different things. So that
Speaker 1: was my process. But I don't think there's a wrong
Speaker 1: way to do it, because no matter what happens, you
Speaker 1: get to taste wines, which is always a BLUs. You
Speaker 1: get to learn about wine, and you get to educate
Speaker 1: yourself on the business of wine, which is a whole
Speaker 1: another aspect that the casual drinker doesn't experience. Like now,
Speaker 1: I look at bottles differently because I had to design
Speaker 1: a label, I had to get a patent, I had
Speaker 1: to kind of figure out what I would name things,
Speaker 1: what years I would try to put out, and then
Speaker 1: with Britles I would try to put out. So there's
Speaker 1: a there's a lot that goes into it. But it's
Speaker 1: been a very rewarding process because I've been able to
Speaker 1: see from start to finish a wine with my name
Speaker 1: on it, with with my taste preference, and then being
Speaker 1: able to share that with strangers has been has been
Speaker 1: a really cool experience. Man, that is a dream. But
Speaker 1: a lot of people now kind of associate the n
Speaker 1: b A with like it's like a mini wine club,
Speaker 1: Like when did this happen? I feel like NBA players
Speaker 1: have now taken ahold of the industry. And you hear
Speaker 1: about you know, on the plane two games, you know,
Speaker 1: drinking like extremely expensive nice bottles of wine or in
Speaker 1: the hotels, and obviously it's the coaches. I worked for
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks for three years and Mike Grutenholzer is
Speaker 1: a big wine Oh he got that from Popovich and
Speaker 1: and then I would see the whole staff. But they're like,
Speaker 1: it's such an art. When did this happen in the NBA?
Speaker 1: I think it happened over time as players began to mature,
Speaker 1: begin to get more into the business realm, and I
Speaker 1: think they got more comfortable with the world of wine.
Speaker 1: It started with you know, older players talking about it
Speaker 1: in their interviews Obviously, you've got Lebron, You've got Cep,
Speaker 1: you got Jimmie, You've got mel All, You've got all
Speaker 1: these players who've been in the league over fifteen years
Speaker 1: who have been exposed to a lot and now are
Speaker 1: comfortable with speaking one. You've got d Way to own wine.
Speaker 1: You've got the curries who have their own wine. And
Speaker 1: now it's kind of expanding to where joh Chart, you know,
Speaker 1: most partnering with prisoner J. J. Reddix and the y
Speaker 1: he loves white Burgundy. I have my own wine. So
Speaker 1: now we're becoming more comfortable with it because it's more
Speaker 1: socially accepted as opposed to, you know, certain things that
Speaker 1: just aren't aren't viewed the same. Wine is a It's
Speaker 1: something that you can enjoy in a mature setting. You
Speaker 1: can do business, you can do it with teammates, you
Speaker 1: can do with family and loved ones. And I think
Speaker 1: it's become more acceptable in our culture as as a
Speaker 1: black man, we're more exposed to things, We're more aware
Speaker 1: of things, and I think in the n b A
Speaker 1: guys are just more comfortable. Well, I'd be remiss not
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about this current NBA season,
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to try your wine, by the way,
Speaker 1: So thank you very much for sending some of my way.
Speaker 1: But just shortened season, so many games. You obviously had
Speaker 1: the foot injury coming back, and you have sixteen games
Speaker 1: I think in April alone. What's like the mentality of
Speaker 1: getting through the rest of the season, because I don't
Speaker 1: think people know how hard it is on y'all. It's brutal,
Speaker 1: it's brutal. We're making we're making do with We're saying
Speaker 1: tests in a few times a day, kind of going
Speaker 1: through that process mentally, of staying out the way, trying
Speaker 1: to trying to avoid, you know, a positive test, and
Speaker 1: there's just scares that kind of happened on a day
Speaker 1: to day basis. But from playing standpoint, like you said before,
Speaker 1: I'm coming off a foot fracture. We don't practice because
Speaker 1: you got testing, you got travel, you've got games every
Speaker 1: other day, so it's just too hard to kind of
Speaker 1: put everything together. So I'm basically getting into rhythm in games,
Speaker 1: which is trial and error, some great moments and some
Speaker 1: terrible moments, and then physically you're just exhausted. We flew
Speaker 1: from Portland to Miami, we landed, we had we had
Speaker 1: a lift and we had eight am testing, which is
Speaker 1: five specific five and Pacific time. We played a game
Speaker 1: that night. We had to back to back play in
Speaker 1: Orlando and then we flew to Tampa to play Toronto.
Speaker 1: So the schedule, like you said before, sixteen games in April,
Speaker 1: back to backs about just about every week. There's no
Speaker 1: real time to rest. You just gotta pick your spots.
Speaker 1: You gotta get treatment. You got iced tub massage, I
Speaker 1: got dry needling scheduled for twelve thirty today, So just
Speaker 1: kind of going through that process. But then also for me,
Speaker 1: being able to step away from basketball has been extremely important,
Speaker 1: so meditating. I have wine not only to drink, but
Speaker 1: projects that I'm working on to where I can kind
Speaker 1: of escape. And I'm big on healthy hobbies, so things
Speaker 1: that are healthy but also make me happy. So sometimes
Speaker 1: they're not healthy, like eating French fries, they make me happy,
Speaker 1: but then also like hot yoga, So being able to
Speaker 1: do those types of things kind of gives me an
Speaker 1: escape to where I don't look at the schedule. So
Speaker 1: like for you telling me that sixteen games, like now,
Speaker 1: I know, but I don't look at the schedule past
Speaker 1: three games. I look at the next. You didn't know that. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I avoid it. Maybe I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: told you. That's okay, don't worry about it. But it's
Speaker 1: just crazy that the struggle that it is, and I
Speaker 1: feel bad for these college athletes to watching them, especially
Speaker 1: teams that are losing in the first round. Everything they
Speaker 1: had to do to get there just brutal on these guys.
Speaker 1: It's never been worse, I think, to be a college athlete.
Speaker 1: So it's it's so great to see the team celebrate
Speaker 1: and continue to advance. Do you have a team you
Speaker 1: really like now? Are you able to watch much? I
Speaker 1: haven't been watching. I got some friends that coach in
Speaker 1: college and some friends that play, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: the oral Robberts, you got it. They had it. They
Speaker 1: had a young player, number three. He was pretty good,
Speaker 1: so I was hoping they would When they end up losing,
Speaker 1: so now I don't really I don't really care what happens.
Speaker 1: I think it's Michigan out of it, like I don't
Speaker 1: even know. No, Michigan's in. I hope Joanna Howard does well,
Speaker 1: so I like to see them win. Other than that,
Speaker 1: so CJ, what am I going to expect when I
Speaker 1: have your rose. That's a great question. I mean, what
Speaker 1: the taste notes I'm going to get. I love strawberries,
Speaker 1: so you'll definitely have hints of strawberries. It's a little
Speaker 1: bit of lemon in it, some plush. It's super smooth.
Speaker 1: Everything I do is Mr Smooth. But Gina is super
Speaker 1: very humble. Thank you, super humble Gina. The winemakers cheesy
Speaker 1: Lee and I always jump and say she's She's like
Speaker 1: the one behind the scenes that makes all my dreams
Speaker 1: come true. I have an idea of how I want
Speaker 1: something to taste, I have an idea of how I'd
Speaker 1: like something to be presented, and she she outdoes herself
Speaker 1: every time. So she's like the She's like the the
Speaker 1: left guard that protects tom Brady, you know, doesn't get
Speaker 1: a lot of credit, but without the left guard, there
Speaker 1: is no Tom Brady. And I think that's the winemaker
Speaker 1: in all industries, the one that's behind the radar, doesn't
Speaker 1: get a lot of credit but does all the work.
Speaker 1: So it's compliments to her. She just she just brought
Speaker 1: a lot of you know what my wife and I
Speaker 1: wanted to see to light in and without her there
Speaker 1: is no, he heard it's ninety one and there is
Speaker 1: no great rose. So I hope you do enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed. It's very fruit forward. The bottle is pretty
Speaker 1: compliments of the design team because I just told him
Speaker 1: I would like to see and they made it happen it.
Speaker 1: Last question, if Jeane is a left guard, I assume
Speaker 1: you're Tom Brady in this scenario. Who is your wife?
Speaker 1: And I love following her on Instagram. By the way,
Speaker 1: y'all have the most beautiful wedding, and she kept whipping
Speaker 1: out all these new looks. I was like, she and
Speaker 1: it was in Vogue? Wasn't in Vogue? Yes it was.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. She's beautiful, Thank you for sure. That
Speaker 1: was fun. That was a lot of fun to COVID
Speaker 1: small COVID wedding. But we got a lot of pictures
Speaker 1: and a lot of outfits. But I mean, honestly, if
Speaker 1: you're talking about in the household, then I'm not Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: I'm more like I might be grown. Or if I'm
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, she's uh, what's his name, Bruce Area former
Speaker 1: Bill Bill chick. But she seems a little bit nice.
Speaker 1: Is Bill Belichick? Spruce Arians? If I'm the quarterback, she's
Speaker 1: the head coach. Love it, so that's kind of how
Speaker 1: that goes. But it's been fun, it's been a it's
Speaker 1: been a great process. We've learned a lot, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to continue to expand. And I would have
Speaker 1: never put out a wine if I never met her,
Speaker 1: because I would have never probably dove down this path, honestly.
Speaker 1: So I'm thankful that she's been able to help me,
Speaker 1: and I'm thankful that I could put a white out
Speaker 1: in her honor with it with Anthony and Flower on it.
Speaker 1: That's very beautiful. Thank you so much. What a great
Speaker 1: story too. Thanks for kind of taking us on a
Speaker 1: deep dive into that process. That's awesome, No problem, no
Speaker 1: problem at all. Best of luck, moving forward to you
Speaker 1: and the Blazers. Gonna be an exciting finish, Canna be
Speaker 1: an exciting April. Can't wait to see how you all
Speaker 1: do and stay healthy and thanks again for your time,
Speaker 1: c J. No problem, you guys have a great one, Okay, Speedie.
Speaker 1: It was fun this week because my dad does NBA
Speaker 1: on T and T games. His name is Kevin Harlan
Speaker 1: and he usually is on Thursdays, but this past week
Speaker 1: he was Tuesday, which means he was setting it back
Speaker 1: and forth to the Atlanta studios to our guy, Adam Leftco,
Speaker 1: who was our guest last week. Yes, so the ironic
Speaker 1: part is that now everyone's calling the games from home.
Speaker 1: You know, my dad's got this crazy studio set up
Speaker 1: in his basement. So what my family kind of likes
Speaker 1: to do is we have dinner now at my parents
Speaker 1: house on the nights he has these games. Because it's
Speaker 1: so unique, we get to have dinner with them, and
Speaker 1: then we all watch the game and he goes in
Speaker 1: the basement calling it. So I gotta ask a question here,
Speaker 1: So you guys sit upstairs and watch the game live
Speaker 1: on TV while he's in the basement giving the color
Speaker 1: commentary of said game. Yes, that is technology is nuts.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's just blowing my mom. But keep going.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, And we try to make sure we're
Speaker 1: we're a conducive work environment. But my sister's got two
Speaker 1: little kids who are running all around, we're all having cocktails,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing. It's it's not a good
Speaker 1: work environment. So I give him a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for staying focused, but I tell him, you know, Dad,
Speaker 1: Adam Leftco. You're sending it back and forth to the studio.
Speaker 1: He's our guest this week, and he goes, Okay, go
Speaker 1: ahead and write down the name, the name of the show.
Speaker 1: I do not want to mess it up. And you know,
Speaker 1: you and Speedy and Adam, I just want to make
Speaker 1: sure I nail it because I'm gonna do a little plug.
Speaker 1: I was like, boy, that is so nice. Yes, we
Speaker 1: know we're only is this just our third episode, we're
Speaker 1: getting off the ground. And I thought, boy, that's a
Speaker 1: big national audience. That's so nice. Well, all write down
Speaker 1: our show name Unleashed MGM, Adam Left, Go, Speedy Mormon
Speaker 1: and you know it just it didn't go quite according
Speaker 1: to plan. And this is just a very big Dad
Speaker 1: gaff um and I believe right now we can play
Speaker 1: it in its halftime was on deck from our studios.
Speaker 1: Adam left, Girl courts right that being the anchor, there's
Speaker 1: the Unleashed podcast by b G MGM and every day
Speaker 1: feature guest m GM. Oh my goodness, this is my
Speaker 1: freaking this is literally my first time hearing it. As
Speaker 1: I know, we've saved it for you. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: missed the game, I forget what I had going on.
Speaker 1: But wow, because I texted you and our producer Maddie,
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, guys, you know, make sure you're
Speaker 1: tuned in. My dad's gonna plug our show. This is
Speaker 1: so great and that you would just missed it, like
Speaker 1: barely had just missed it. And we said, well, it
Speaker 1: was really nice he did it, but I kind of
Speaker 1: butchered the name and we're just giving him a hard time.
Speaker 1: To be fair, he was also doing March Madness games
Speaker 1: all week. That was like his twelfth game of the week.
Speaker 1: I mean, his the fact that he still even thought
Speaker 1: of us and thought to do it, I was. I
Speaker 1: was so flattered, but I was like, that's such a
Speaker 1: dad thing. That is awesome. But the fact that he
Speaker 1: shout it up Black Entertainment television is hilarious. Were painted
Speaker 1: picture for me quickly? Were you in the living room
Speaker 1: like upstairs and like, all right, here we go, guys,
Speaker 1: he's gonna announce it and then and then and then
Speaker 1: how did you react? What what happened? So my mom
Speaker 1: and I just gonna look at each other like, oh,
Speaker 1: that wasn't that, but you could tell? And he comes
Speaker 1: up after the game, he said, did you hear how
Speaker 1: was it? Did he hear it? And I go, uh huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah I heard. I heard it, So just one clipping,
Speaker 1: and I thought by writing it out, I made it
Speaker 1: super easy. But I did write b e t mgm
Speaker 1: in acronym. You wrote ba dot T. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to look back at the post it. I
Speaker 1: just wrote it quickly, you know, bet mgm. So he
Speaker 1: came up. My mom and I were like, should we
Speaker 1: even tell him? He's gonna feel so bad? No, but
Speaker 1: that's so sweet. Does he let me ask you? Does
Speaker 1: he do things? Is he like a dad's dad that
Speaker 1: he you know, he kind of embarrasses you sometimes that
Speaker 1: thing that dad's do, Or is this is this just
Speaker 1: like a good old fashioned dad slip up. I've got
Speaker 1: to say, neither one of my parents ever embarrassed me
Speaker 1: like my I think my parents. My parents are kind
Speaker 1: of cool parents every time they come around in a
Speaker 1: way that they're of such good people. And I remember
Speaker 1: at my college graduation, my parents surprised me and flew
Speaker 1: down because I graduated a semester early, so none of
Speaker 1: my friends were graduating like that weekend, but they all
Speaker 1: surprised me with this big surprise dinner at a sushi
Speaker 1: restaurant with karaoke and my dad, who again likes to
Speaker 1: kind of fade in the background. You know, he's he's
Speaker 1: so well known in our circles, in like sports media circles,
Speaker 1: but you know, my college girlfriends didn't really know who
Speaker 1: he was and you know, didn't really follow sports. And
Speaker 1: my dad gets on the mic and start singing Frank
Speaker 1: Sinata and has a beautiful singing voice, which shouldn't surprise you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that to me, even that wasn't embarrassing him, Like
Speaker 1: that's so cool. He's just you know, putting himself out there.
Speaker 1: And my friends were like, your dad is so cool,
Speaker 1: but that they don't know much about his career, but
Speaker 1: they know that he killed it with Frank Sinatra. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Frank Sinata. They be if they were impressed
Speaker 1: off Frank Sinata, they'd be so much more impressed at
Speaker 1: watching him do what he does on a national television So,
Speaker 1: you know, let me just say, my parents never really
Speaker 1: embarrassed me either, but you know what my pops does
Speaker 1: that that is just funny to me. My dad is
Speaker 1: so proud of like everything that I do and that
Speaker 1: I have going on that when he's out and about,
Speaker 1: like meeting people, he loves to just tell people about
Speaker 1: his son and like what his son does. So periodically,
Speaker 1: like especially pre pandemic, like maybe once a month I
Speaker 1: get a d M on Instagram from somebody I don't
Speaker 1: know that says, hey, I just met your dad and
Speaker 1: he told me about what you do and blah blah
Speaker 1: blah or wow, I didn't know that you this was
Speaker 1: your dad, but I follow you already, like it's the
Speaker 1: funniest thing, but it's really like a dad thing. And
Speaker 1: then I gotta call him and dead. Let me guess
Speaker 1: you met someone else in the Apple Store this time,
Speaker 1: or you met some best You know. My dad's a
Speaker 1: big tech guy. He likes to buy like gadgets and stuff.
Speaker 1: So he's at best Buy at this point. I'm sure
Speaker 1: every Best By employee knows who his son is, just
Speaker 1: because he's told to probably one by one by one.
Speaker 1: Well speed Think of it this way. Maybe he's not
Speaker 1: embarrassing you as your dad. Think of it like he's
Speaker 1: your publicist. That's what I'm saying. It's like the street.
Speaker 1: He's like my street team. You know. He's just like
Speaker 1: spreads a good bird. You know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 1: you if you want to listen to a cool podcast
Speaker 1: or something, he you know, you got a new podcast
Speaker 1: now because you know who I am because of my pop.
Speaker 1: So he's doing an amazing job. Plus I don't even
Speaker 1: have to pay him, which he doesn't ask for nothing.
Speaker 1: He doesn't ask me another But you know what, I
Speaker 1: should start just kicking him ten percent from like here
Speaker 1: on out. Any any new things that come my way,
Speaker 1: I'll just assume are by way of his word of mouth.
Speaker 1: You know, ask him, ask your dad if he's up
Speaker 1: for higher too. Maybe I'll ask for him to help
Speaker 1: me what you need. You need him in your corner,
Speaker 1: in our corner, we'll how about this will make him
Speaker 1: the official publicist of this podcast, dad right, which is
Speaker 1: called Unleashed on b et MGM or bet MGM, whichever
Speaker 1: way you want to pronounce it. Well, Olivia, thanks again
Speaker 1: to your pops though he you know, effort is all
Speaker 1: that matters, and so I'm excited that that we gotta
Speaker 1: shout out one way or another. Now, coming up next,
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap things up with this week's Lions lock Pick,
Speaker 1: where our guru from bet MGM Peter Andrew gives you
Speaker 1: all of the insider knowledge about which picks are worth
Speaker 1: your bread and which picks you may want to hold
Speaker 1: off on. Alright, guys, Peter Andrew has joined us. Now
Speaker 1: our guy. He is our betting savant from bet MGM. Peter,
Speaker 1: what's up and how are you good? Am? I considered
Speaker 1: a co host. Now we've got to check the prerequisites here,
Speaker 1: but borderline Olivia, you can make the call when you think.
Speaker 1: I don't know. The prerequisites might be kind of low,
Speaker 1: so you might be good, Peter, I don't know. Paramentry
Speaker 1: is rock bottom here with Peter, let's just really quickly
Speaker 1: recap some of our Lions lock picks from last week.
Speaker 1: You made some bold calls. I assume you hit on
Speaker 1: some and assume that you didn't hit on some others.
Speaker 1: There's once you just go ahead and run us through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So first I think I went to and two. So
Speaker 1: the Earl Roberts plus eleven was was an easy lock.
Speaker 1: Obviously came down to the buzzer there heartbreaker for a Smiths,
Speaker 1: so that one hit luckily. I did say I don't
Speaker 1: think they come out on top. So it's nice to
Speaker 1: finally have a winning pick in my back pocket. Gonzaga
Speaker 1: continued to roll again really impressive. I don't think we've
Speaker 1: even seen them scratch the surface of what they can be,
Speaker 1: which is really scary. And then, of course, on the
Speaker 1: negative side, Loyola, I think just given that they were
Speaker 1: playing from behind for a lot of the game, it
Speaker 1: seemed like they were just out of their comfort zone.
Speaker 1: They just weren't getting comfortable the same way you saw
Speaker 1: them in a couple of the previous rounds. And Speedy
Speaker 1: obviously the tough ones accused. Um, I think just the
Speaker 1: way they contain Buddy Beeheim, I mean even off screens,
Speaker 1: just picking pops kind of shots. He just was contained
Speaker 1: the shot one of nine. Um, So they did a
Speaker 1: really good job there and obviously holding to your cust
Speaker 1: nine points. I mean, you're gonna wincent a time when
Speaker 1: that's the case. So it's nice to have some wins
Speaker 1: under my belt compared to last week or two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: So I'll taken in strides and keep moving forward. So, Peter,
Speaker 1: it's Tuesday morning as we're recording this. We only know
Speaker 1: one of the final four matchups, Baylor and Houston. I
Speaker 1: kind of like Baylor. They lead the nation in three
Speaker 1: point shooting. They have a first team All American and
Speaker 1: Jared Butler and this stellar backcourt with Digan Mitchell, and
Speaker 1: they're averaging like over forty six points per game. I
Speaker 1: think those three alone. But this Houston defense, they kind
Speaker 1: of out tough you, you know, outgret you. They hold
Speaker 1: opponents just a fifty seven points per game. So I
Speaker 1: think it's kind of an old school matchup. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if their matchup styles will complement each other. I
Speaker 1: think it could be kind of an ugly game. What
Speaker 1: are you expecting in that one, since it's the only
Speaker 1: one we know. Yeah, so I think there's a stat
Speaker 1: I read this morning Houston's number two and three point defense,
Speaker 1: Bailor's actually number one and three point offense. I think
Speaker 1: that ends up being the game right there. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a cut last night incredible from downtown.
Speaker 1: I think they were constantly finding the wide open guy.
Speaker 1: Happened to be him most of the time. I really
Speaker 1: like Baylor here. I think if you're used and you
Speaker 1: have to be really concerned about your shooting, I think
Speaker 1: they shot from the field, something like from three when
Speaker 1: you're inefficient like that. I think it's gonna be really,
Speaker 1: really difficult against the Bailor team that again can can
Speaker 1: shoot from downtown. They're way more efficient, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough task for them. Peter, I gotta, I
Speaker 1: gotta pull your card here, because you were pretty pretty
Speaker 1: dead set on Michigan not being a contender. You thought
Speaker 1: they were going to get packed up last round. Here
Speaker 1: they are still dancing. How far do you think they go?
Speaker 1: So obviously we're talking into the future a little bit here,
Speaker 1: But if you get a matchup like Franz Wagner versus
Speaker 1: Drew Timmy, that I think is the game right there.
Speaker 1: So if low post offense, low post defense, if they
Speaker 1: can contain him, He's clearly been the best player, maybe
Speaker 1: in the tournament, but certainly for Gonzaga. So really ultimately
Speaker 1: comes up to that matchup. I think you've got guys
Speaker 1: like Jalen Suggs and Kisser that maybe haven't scratched surface yet.
Speaker 1: I think Sugs in particular, But I think it really
Speaker 1: comes down to that low post matchup. I think there's
Speaker 1: good guard play on both sides, but Timmy's constantly putting
Speaker 1: up points really really efficient, so it really depends. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm eating my words here thinking Michigan was going
Speaker 1: to be in early out and look at them now. Well,
Speaker 1: the Final four starts Saturday, so we're looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: But I understand this weekend you're going to the Nets
Speaker 1: Hornets game. We've been talking a lot of NBA on
Speaker 1: this show. Is is that a set lock? Do you
Speaker 1: have a line that you like there? You know, obviously
Speaker 1: having no Lamello, at least for the next month and
Speaker 1: potentially for the season, is really tough for the team.
Speaker 1: I think they played good basketball. They're probably gonna be
Speaker 1: a four. I've succeed in the playoffs, but when you
Speaker 1: talk about just what the Nets have been doing over
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, I know Blake and LaMarcus
Speaker 1: Alds have kind of gotten past their prime a little bit.
Speaker 1: When you have those two complimenting guys like DeAndre Jordan's
Speaker 1: who are interior defense is still second and none, and
Speaker 1: then obviously have the just victory of Kyrie Katie Harden,
Speaker 1: it's really really tough to notunt back them. I think
Speaker 1: the Horners are gonna be in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 1: They're just not as athletic. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a tough matchup. I don't know what the line is yet.
Speaker 1: I think we'll have to wait public closer to Thursday
Speaker 1: till it's set. But I'm taking taking Nets in the
Speaker 1: points and Peter. Obviously we don't know the exact adds,
Speaker 1: or maybe we do, But what do you think the
Speaker 1: chances are of the Nets taking it all now and
Speaker 1: and have their odds increased with the addition of Blake
Speaker 1: and the markets. Yeah, I think playoff basketball just different. Monster.
Speaker 1: You need the depth you're gonna get players. Inevitably, they're
Speaker 1: getting banged up or in foul trouble. Having a couple
Speaker 1: of those guys again maybe past their prime a little bit,
Speaker 1: but they can still play ball. I don't see a
Speaker 1: team that probably can compete with them. I think you
Speaker 1: see some of the concerns with the Lakers eighties health,
Speaker 1: Lebron's health right now. A guy like Drummond is great,
Speaker 1: but I just don't think it's going to compare to
Speaker 1: a team that has such good perimeter shooting, can play
Speaker 1: inside out. Clippers are on a roll right now. I
Speaker 1: think they're won six straight. But again, it's hard to
Speaker 1: find a team that's just gonna be able to compliment
Speaker 1: or or go against the complimentary pieces of of what
Speaker 1: the nets bring you, which is just five men that
Speaker 1: can score twenty points on any given day. Last thing here,
Speaker 1: if someone had a metaphorical hundred dollars to bet this
Speaker 1: week on bet MGM, where do you recommend they put
Speaker 1: their money? Man, it's it's hard again. I've bet Gonzaga
Speaker 1: the whole way through to cover. I think you have
Speaker 1: to put a hundred dollars on them to cover their
Speaker 1: next game for tonight it happens to be I think
Speaker 1: it's minus eight and a half right now against usc
Speaker 1: but but rolling into Michigan it will probably be closer
Speaker 1: to four or five should they win. I think you
Speaker 1: have to just ride the wave. They've over to every game,
Speaker 1: I think probably for the last month, going into the
Speaker 1: w CC tournament and even into the season. I don't
Speaker 1: think I've seen him in a couple of months now
Speaker 1: be an under ten point favorite. So you have to
Speaker 1: ride the wave. Maybe you sprinkling a parlay with Michigan
Speaker 1: to cover as well. I think I think maybe you
Speaker 1: go you turn that hundred maybe into a quick two
Speaker 1: or two fifty, But both of those teams are just
Speaker 1: really really solid and again eating my words on Michigan.
Speaker 1: They've proved me wrong for sure, But but Gonzaga is
Speaker 1: just a whole another level of basketball, that's right. Just
Speaker 1: this week we learned Isaiah Livers is out and definitely
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, but it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to matter. Michigan looks as good as they have all seasons,
Speaker 1: so it's um I like them. If I were to
Speaker 1: redo my bracket. Actually I had Gonzaga winning. Still love
Speaker 1: the Zags, but Michigan I think has pulled it together
Speaker 1: more than anyone expected. I put Michigan and win at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brandon Johns Jr. Look incredible this weekend. I mean just
Speaker 1: really really consistent, really efficient. Again, I know that's kind
Speaker 1: of a hot word here, but just playing really good basketball.
Speaker 1: A guy like him at six eight that can take
Speaker 1: it outside. I think he shot fift from three the
Speaker 1: other day. But also, like I said, big frame, big body,
Speaker 1: can take it to the rim. It's gonna be tough
Speaker 1: for those acts, you know, to to match up with
Speaker 1: a guy like that. Kissburgh little undersized, not as athletic
Speaker 1: as John's, so gonna be really interesting going it's funny.
Speaker 1: Four should be interesting, indeed, Peter, as always, we thank
Speaker 1: you for your time and we'll check back in with
Speaker 1: you one week from now and then we'll see how
Speaker 1: you picks held up. Sounds good, thanks, guys, He's gro
Speaker 1: Thank you alright, guys. Well that is it for our
Speaker 1: show today, Olivia. What a fun episode and what a
Speaker 1: wide range. Right we're talking sports picks, of course, we're
Speaker 1: talking b E T M t M and then we're
Speaker 1: also talking with NBA superstars. Did you have a highlight
Speaker 1: from this episode? My highlight had to be sitting down
Speaker 1: with c J McCollum, you know via zoom sitting down.
Speaker 1: He's just so multifaceted and interesting, and to hear his
Speaker 1: experience from his March Madness run, it puts a lot
Speaker 1: into perspective as we watch these teams still battle it out. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Final four coming up this weekend. I cannot wait. I
Speaker 1: cannot wait either, and we'll be back with you all
Speaker 1: next week. So make sure to check out all of
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