1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't feel that the Dodgers need anything, and that's 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: something that has also been brought up in the chat. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: It's not about need, it's about want. And also, by 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: the way, we can what up everybody and welcome to 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: a brand new live episode of Dodgers' Territory on this Thursday, 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: January fifteenth. We are your hosts. I am Alana Rizzo, 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: that is Katie Wu also of The Athletic and Clint 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Pesi us. We're with you for the next thirty thirty 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: five minutes. Great to have you guys with us. Please 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: rate us five stars, like and subscribe to Dodger's Territory. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Our next goal is fifteen thousand subs. We'd appreciate it 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: very much. On YouTube, We're anywhere that you get your podcasts. 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: All right, guys, a lot to talk about it. It seems 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: like Kyle Tucker decision day. But Katie, we will start 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: with you when it comes to the biggest news in 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: my opinion, because we're a Dodger show, and that is 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw One final hurrah. It is announced earlier today 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: that he will in fact be on Team USA for 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: the World of Baseball Classic. His story is not finished yet. 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: I love this for Kersh. I'd like to get your 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: take on it. 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: One last ride for number twenty two and a very 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: fitting way I think for his Hall of Fame career 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: to end. Talking to Anny McCullough, our friend here at 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: the Athletic, did a little interview with him this morning 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: about his excitement and how he thought maybe you know, 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: wasn't really on his radar to pitch again. That's kind 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: of what happens when you retire. But when Team USA 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: manager Mark De Rosa said, hey, we have a spot 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: for you, not to coach, but to play, what do 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: you think I mean? I think this is just so 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: cool for Kersh. He did get to play in twenty 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: twenty three for insurance reasons. Always wanted to be on 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: Team USA, and here's a perk when you retire, no 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: insurance policy needed. So that's a stacked Team USA roster. 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: We can get into the logistics. I don't think he's 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: going to be in the rotation. I think he's there 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: for emergencies only, but certainly a feel good story to 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: start the day. Yeah, it is. 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: It's a breaking case of emergency. I think twenty two 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: is there to be the vibes guy, and you know 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: Alana covering him so many years in that clubhouse. He's 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: good on the vibes. He's good on the vibes. 44 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: This is an opportunity for Kirsh to be able to 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: do everything he wasn't allowed to do or couldn't do 46 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: when he was playing, right, I mean the whole insurance 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: situation in twenty twenty three. But he doesn't have to 48 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: worry about Hey, am I going to be the opening 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: day starter? Am I going to start game number two? 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Where are we at in terms of the schedule and 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: all of the things. So I love this for him, 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: I love this for Team USA. This was funny though. 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: Bill Plunkett front of the show also does a great 54 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: job covering the Dodgers for the Orange County Register. Clayton 55 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: Kershaw on MLB Network earlier today, I'm potentially facing sho 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: Heeyo Tawi in a USA Japan WBC showdown, much like 57 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: it was last time, right, I think something will have 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: gone terribly wrong if I have to pitch against Team 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Japan in the finals or something. I think we've got 60 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: plenty of guys to get that guy out, not me. 61 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: So kirshnos his role, right. I mean, it's awesome to 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: have him participate in this, so good for you, Kirsh. 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: We're trying to get him on the show. I asked 64 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: him to come on Monday. He said the kids are 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: out of school. He has five kids, four of which 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: I think are in some sort of grade. So we'll 67 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: try to get him on the show next week. 68 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: All right. 69 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: So that being that, today is Kyle Tucker decision day, probably, 70 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: so let's get to rumor, has it? Katie? For all 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: intents and purposes, it seems like most folks thought that 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: this was going to happen yesterday. Now they have changed 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: their mind to thinking most of the decisions are going 74 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: to happen today. Mike Kuma of the New York Coats 75 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: saying that it was going to happen last night. Now 76 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: it's probably going to happen today. There's three big players 77 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: in this, Katie, as you know, it is the Los 78 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers, it is the New York Mets, it is 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays. What are you hearing? What are 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: you feeling about where Kyle Tucker lands? 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to small free agency in the year of 82 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. We just kind of wait pins and needles, 83 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: and it's funny how the Kyle Tucker situation has shaped up. 84 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: Mike Kum has been all over it's doing a fantastic 85 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: job for the New York Post. And then you see 86 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: on the flip side, Alex Bregman signs with the Cubs 87 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 2: in the middle of a very very exciting Baris Packers 88 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: game on Saturday night, with seemingly no warnings. So I 89 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: don't really think that anything has changed here in terms 90 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: of we're just waiting for Kyle Tucker to make a 91 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: decision the Mets that reportedly offer him a three to 92 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: four year contract fifty million dollars AAV. 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 4: That is a lot of. 94 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: Money, and I know we're talking about three teams that 95 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: don't really seem to have problems spending money, with the Mets, 96 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, and the Blue Jays having historical spending. This winter, 97 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: to me goes down to, obviously, where does Kyle Tucker 98 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: want to play? That's why players get to free agency. 99 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: And if his his deals and his market is down 100 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: to these shorter term AAV deals that we kind of 101 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: predicted was going to happen during the winter meetings, then 102 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: it's about what the best fit is Alana. 103 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: Do you think New York is the best bit for 104 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: this guy? 105 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't, and the reason why, And I'm going to 106 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: read something to you really quick, and this is from 107 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: a source. It's anonymous, but it is from a source 108 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: somebody with very good information knowledge. As far as that 109 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: is concerned, he doesn't love baseball. He's fine with the guys, 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: but the absolute worst SoundBite of all time personality of 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: warning tractor. I don't think New York is a place 112 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: that Kyle Tucker will enjoy being. We all know how 113 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: difficult of a MARKETDIA, the media market new York is. 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: We all know how difficult it is when you're not 115 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: performing there. And I just don't see Kyle Tucker wanting 116 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: to deal with that type of pressure. He's a guy 117 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: that just goes to work and goes home. I'm not 118 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: saying he's as bad as Anthony Rendon by any stretch 119 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: of the imagination, but I don't see this guy being 120 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: a guy that loves baseball and loves the pressure that's 121 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: going to come with playing in New York, you know, 122 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: as I could see it coming down to the Dodgers 123 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: or the Toronto Blue Jays. I truly think it's a 124 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: better fit for him in Toronto. I personally not that 125 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: anybody asks, but I'm gonna tell you anyway, I don't 126 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: necessarily need Kyle Tucker. Okay, I know the Dodgers need 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: an outfield, but I don't know or an outfielder. Rather, 128 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think a fifty million dollar aav is. 129 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you need to pay Kyle Tucker that, 130 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: even if it's for two or three years. Now, Toronto 131 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: is willing to go for ten years. New York apparently 132 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: is willing to New York is the only team that 133 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: threw it out there in terms of amount, right, Toronto's 134 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: haven't put an amount out there. The Dodgers haven't put 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: an amount out there, So who knows if it's even true? 136 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Number one, number two, It's like I just I don't know. 137 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't see it. So again, Katie or Clint, let's 138 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: let's go with you. You know, all three of these 139 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: teams in the mix are behemoth, right, Nobody would be 140 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: surprised because all three of those teams spend money. We 141 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: know the Mets do, we know the Dodgers do. In Toronto, 142 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden wants to be a player. I'm 143 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: not gonna surprise anybody regardless of where he goes. Where 144 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: do you think he lamps? 145 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really feel like Toronto seems to make the 146 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: most sense at this point. If they're willing to offer 147 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: the years that kind of security, I would imagine Kyle 148 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: Tucker really really would appreciate something like that. I don't 149 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: think he wants to go through free agency once again 150 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: in just a couple of years. Whether it's as a 151 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: Dodger and a short term deal or whether it's a 152 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: met as a short team term deal, he makes a 153 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: lot of sense. They need an outfielder out there. We've 154 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: heard the reports that they would love to try to 155 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: get out from under that Anthony Santander contract. They have 156 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: a little bit of money tied up in some weird 157 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: areas that they would love to allocate to Kyle Tucker. 158 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: But we can never count out the Dodgers as players 159 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: on anybody, especially when it comes to a short term deal. 160 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: And of course we know this past After the Dodgers 161 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: go out there and win a World Series, they also 162 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: trimmed about eighty five eighty seven million dollars from their 163 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 3: payroll with Clayton Kershaw retiring everybody's favorite, Michael confordo walking away, 164 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: getting out from under the Chris Taylor contract, Kirby Yate's 165 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: coming off the books. They have some money available available. 166 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: They've allocated some, of course to Edwin Diaz, but they've 167 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: got about what fifty sixty million dollars to play with 168 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: if they want to match what they lost or what 169 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: they trimmed in payroll and pay about the same for 170 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: that luxury tax threshold exceeding it and the penalties and 171 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: all that. I'll tell you what, you add a player 172 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: for fifty million dollars, you end up paying around what 173 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty hundred and seventy million dollars in 174 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: a luxury tax penalty. I don't know. It feels like 175 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: a good price to buy a world series. If the 176 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: Dodgers are out here buying world series, that's another conversation 177 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: we could have. The Dodgers can get it done. But 178 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: to your question is Toronto seems to make the most sense. 179 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: For first of all, the Dodgers don't buy world series. 180 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: The Dodgers buy good players. That gives them an opportunity 181 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: to get into the postseason. You cannot buy a world 182 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: Series championship, you can buy a berth into the postseason. Okay. 183 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: Second of all, Katie Wu, let me ask you this. 184 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: If you're talking about a need, I don't feel that 185 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: the Dodgers need anything. And that's something that has also 186 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: been brought up in the chat. It's not about need, 187 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: it's about want. And also, by the way, we can 188 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: what does this mean to you in terms of do 189 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: the Dodgers want Kyle Tucker so that automatically solves the 190 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: outfield problem if you will, If in fact Tommy Edmond 191 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: is not ready to come back from ankle surgery, Let's 192 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: just assume Kyle Tucker plays left field, or let's assume 193 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: that Tayoscar decides that he's going to move to left 194 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: field and Kyle Tucker plays in right field, and you 195 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: have an Andy PAS's stays in center or whatever. They 196 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: don't need him, do they want him, and do they 197 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: want him badly enough? 198 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to. And we've heard the 199 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: Dodgers front office say this all off season. They don't 200 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: feel like they're in a position where they need to 201 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: do anything to compliment the rest of their roster. And 202 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: just because they don't need to doesn't mean that they 203 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: won't because you said it, Alana. 204 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: They can. 205 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: They can do this if they want to. 206 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: It just depends on are they going to go and 207 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: meet the Mets with their report, did AaB They're we 208 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: already know they're not going to go to. 209 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: That extended deal. 210 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: They've been very adamant about that from the jump, and 211 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: that dates back to how they pursue the relief market 212 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: as well. And all really comes down to is this 213 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: something that makes sense for them right now? And if 214 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: it's gonna be fifty million dollars for Kyle Tucker, I'm 215 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: not sure. Like, don't get me wrong, dynamic player, he 216 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: would absolutely change everything about the Dodgers offseason, and there's 217 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: a reason why he's been so coveted for so long. 218 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: But when you're looking at what the Dodgers really need 219 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: to me, especially if Tommy Edmond is not ready to 220 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 2: go for Opening Day, they need like a strong center fielder. 221 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 4: And this is not to say that Andy pa Has. 222 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: Can't be it, but in my opinion, he profiles much 223 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: better defensively in the corners. Now, you obviously can get 224 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: away with him and center it's fine. He's he's fine. 225 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: But if you're the Dodgers, what do you really need there? 226 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: Do you need a better outfield defensively or are you 227 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: comfortable with just going out and getting the best possible 228 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: player and figuring out the rest. I mean, it's a 229 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: fine strategy if you can get away that financially, and 230 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: as we know, the Dodgers can do that. So I 231 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: think you're spot on, Alana when you say it's about 232 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: if they. 233 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: Can and if they want to. 234 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: They don't feel like they need to do anything with 235 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: the rest of their roster right now, and that's just 236 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: kind of the state of ward the franchise is. 237 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: Let's say, I'll add, yeah, we, Alana, we kind of 238 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: entered this offseason, at least I did, with the opinion 239 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: that they don't need to do a lot. Edwin Diaz 240 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: did not see that signing coming. I figured it would 241 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: be somebody, probably a rung or two lower to add 242 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 3: as a middle reliever, get out a closer, get the 243 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: best closer in the market. Hell yeah, let's go from there. 244 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: I think you know, some of your work is done. 245 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: They have enough talent in house to be a very 246 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 3: very good, very very competitive ball club. And in the 247 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: next segment, we are going to talk about the state 248 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: of the National League West spoiler, it could be a 249 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: pretty you know, a cake walk once again to another 250 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: n West crown for the Dodgers to the point of 251 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: being in need. Kyle Tucker is not a need. They 252 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: do need an outfield there agree, And we've also talked 253 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: about this if if they're gonna add anybody, it is 254 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 3: a center field. There is somebody who has that kind 255 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: of ability. We've talked about Harrison Bader, who continues to 256 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: be a fit. He'll it costs a lot less money 257 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: as well. I don't know. I'm just knowing it out there. 258 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: Maybe we lower the expectations. Everybody wants a big signing, 259 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: but let's lower the expectations a little bit. 260 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: The thing is, I don't I don't need a big signing. 261 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: I understand. I'm not. Yes, I am a fan, but 262 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm not. I understand what you're saying with our chat. 263 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: Our chat wants a big signing. I get that as well, 264 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: but too sixty six, twenty two home runs, seventy three stakes, 265 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: fifty million. I'm sorry like that to me and I 266 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: understand that's a that's just a I'm painting it with 267 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: a very broad stroke of a brush there. I agree 268 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: with Katie. He is a dynamic player. He's gonna make 269 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: your team better, he's not gonna make it worse. But 270 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: fifty million, I don't know. I just think, again, not 271 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: my money. They have it, they can do it. I 272 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: just I just think that's that it's silly. I mean, yeah, short, 273 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: short term deal to two year deal, whatever. I don't know. 274 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: I just don't. 275 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: This still comes back to show Hey and Juan Soto 276 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: ruining baseball with these seven hundred million dollar contracts, Like 277 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: what is what are these absurd numbers we're asking for? 278 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: And also how do we get a cut of this? 279 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Listen, I don't ever fall to a player for going 280 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: to the you know, going and asking for the moon. 281 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I'm fine with players, all players 282 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: going to free agency. I'm glad that show Hey got 283 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: seven hundred. I'm glad that Soto got seven sixty five. 284 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: I've said this a thousand times. If show Hay's making 285 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: seven hundred, Guggenheim's making two point four so or two 286 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: point eight, so I don't care. That doesn't bother me. 287 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 1: But like, let's just be smart about it. Like I 288 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: think about clubhouse culture, I think about the fit with 289 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: the team. I think about a lot of different things 290 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to this and again, but it's going 291 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: to come down to who wants him badly enough and where? Honestly, 292 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: like Katie said, where does he want to play? Where 293 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: does he want to go? Does he want to go 294 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: to New York? Does he want to deal with you know, 295 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: the whole situation with travel in Toronto and all of 296 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: the things. I mean, we always say La is a destination. 297 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: But we'll see, We'll see what happens in terms of that. 298 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: There's so much more to come, guys on Dodgers' Territory, 299 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: but first we want to ask you to please consider 300 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: the show, Supporting the show, and consider getting some sweet 301 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Dodgers Territory swag. Visit the Dodgers' Territory Shop. 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I would 311 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: call them the top of the crop, our cream of 312 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: the crop, top of the pops there when you're talking 313 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: about the NLS. But Katie and I we spoke a 314 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: little bit about this and our thought for the road 315 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: on Monday. Obviously, the Cubs get better. Adding Alex Bragman 316 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: competition makes the Dodgers better. As Dino Eble told us 317 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: last off season, Alana, I am unimpressed with the state 318 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: of the National League West. Of course, the d Backs 319 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: make a move, Katie, amongst those breaking the addition of 320 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: Nolan Aeronado to Arizona. Are they a riser? Where are 321 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: they at? Here's kind of a look at their offseason 322 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: so far. You still have Zach Gallon out in free agency, 323 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: add Merril Kelly back. He returns Mike Soroka at it 324 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: as well. I think he's going to be in the 325 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: mix of the rotation. But yeah, the big name there, 326 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: Nolan Aernado. In my opinion, he is not a Geno Suarez. 327 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: Of course, they traded him last summer. But I don't 328 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: know what's Katie, what's kind of your gauge of what 329 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: this Aeronado addition does for Arizona and where are they 330 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: at in kind of the pecking order of the NL West. 331 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: So I'll preface this with in off seasons prior, I 332 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: have been a Snake's hater. 333 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: I've just never really been on board the d Backs train. 334 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: I thought they were very five hundred ish, and now 335 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: looking at the rest of the NL West, I see 336 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: it could always be worse, and I actually think that 337 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: the d Backs have done a pretty nice job of 338 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: this offseason operating within their market size. Obviously, the downside 339 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: and playing in the NL West is that you're going 340 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: against the Dodgers in the division. So I don't think 341 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: the d Backs are looking to necessarily put together a 342 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: division winning roster because I'm not sure if they can, 343 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: but they can certainly put together a competitive one within 344 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: the National League, and that's what they're doing. I like 345 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: bringing back Meryl Kelly just always made sense for them 346 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: to do that. Mike Soroka has some nice veteran pickup, 347 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: and the Nolan Arnado trade is a high upside trade 348 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: for Arizona because they're only paying eleven million dollars to 349 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: have him for the next two years. Saint Louis Cardinals 350 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: are paying down thirty one million of the forty two 351 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: remaining on that contract, So talk. 352 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: About a salary dump. 353 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: If you are the Diamondbacks and you're looking to improve defensively, 354 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: go out and get one of the best third basement 355 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: to ever play the game. They don't need Ronado to 356 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,359 Speaker 2: supply the offense. They have Corby and Carroll, they Havetie, 357 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: they have Perdomo to do that. They'll presumably get Gouriel 358 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: Junior back around June. If Nolan Arnatto can play All 359 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: Star deepense at third and driving some runs, hitting six 360 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: or seven, that's exactly what they're paying him to do. 361 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: They still need that. 362 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: Arizona still needs some bullpen help, and we'll see what 363 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: they do about first base, maybe a Paul Goldschmidt reunion. 364 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 4: But we'll get to the rest of the vision. 365 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: They're the only ones besides the Dodgers really doing anything 366 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: right now, and they don't. They're they're young, they're exciting, 367 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: they have some good talent. I think they'll be competitive, 368 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: but no one's touching the Dodgers so far. 369 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: No there's no way. I think that's the thing. I mean, 370 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: the Dodger's barring something catastrophic. I would imagine when the 371 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: NL West again, by a long shot, I mean they 372 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: do the Diamondbacks. As you mentioned, k they need some 373 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: bullpen help, they need another power back. This rotation is 374 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: meddling with the middle at best. With Corbyn Burns expected 375 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: to miss a lot of the season, They're a minor 376 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: threat to this team, and they're meyer threat in the division. Honestly, though, 377 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: like there's really let's look at the Padres because I 378 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: think if when you look at the rivalry, if you will, 379 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: which has become one more recently, it's not the Giants anymore, right, 380 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: it's the Padres. But Clint, I don't think the Padres 381 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: are gonna be anywhere near where they need to be 382 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: until this whole ownership mess gets sorted out. 383 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Padres are in a weird spot. Of course, they're 384 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: going to be the chief kind of contender, the chief 385 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: competition in the NL West for the Los Angeles Dodgers. 386 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: But doing some research on this, obviously they have had 387 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: a weird off season so far. It is not done. 388 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: You know, I see on the screen here you got 389 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: intrigued or declined because this is another club that is 390 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: getting older. They need an infielder. They brought in a 391 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: head coach or manager, head coach doms they brought in 392 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: a manager who you know, it's kind of tough to 393 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: imagine Craig Stammond commanding the respect of somebody like Manny Machado, 394 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: who very much runs that clubhouse. But even so, the 395 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: Padres are shockingly in a better position than what their 396 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 3: offseason kind of leaves it to look like they still 397 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: got uh not Meryl Kelly, who's there center fielder again? 398 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: I always mess up his Meryl something or other. Jackson 399 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 3: merl You have Jackson Merril as your young dude. Fernando 400 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: Tatista is obviously still a pretty good baseball player, not 401 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: quite the guy he was a pre ringworm. Manny Machado 402 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: is gonna figure something out. He's had a full healthy 403 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: off seasons. Ander Bogart's is still, you know, pretty good 404 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: at shortstop, even though he's getting paid a lot of money. 405 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 3: It's an intriguing ball club. They like that that fair 406 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: mean kid at catcher as well. They have some pitching. 407 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: Yet he still got a really really good bullpen. I 408 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: think they are going to be better than I would 409 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 3: a day before looking at the roster have given them 410 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 3: credit for Uh, they are going to be the chief competition. 411 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: Like I said for the Dodgers, they are always a threat, 412 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: but this is a club you look in. We're having 413 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: this conversation a year from now. I don't know. I 414 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be very, very different for them Padres. 415 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: Like you said, Riz, the ownership needs to figure itself out. 416 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: Katie, I'm interested in your take too, because you are 417 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: coming from the NL Central, so it's like Clinton and 418 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: I we know the NL West at nauseum. But I'm 419 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: interested from an outside perspective now that you're in the 420 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: West but before in the Central, Like, how did you 421 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: view the Padres in Saint Louis? What do you think 422 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: about this club? 423 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: I always thought that they were much more talented than 424 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: I saw, and I only saw them for about a 425 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 2: week out of the season, because when you look at 426 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 2: the names, especially in the lineup, you're like, yeah, this 427 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: team should raak And it's always kind of struck me 428 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: differently that they hadn't really been able to win when 429 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: it matters, and when you have guys like Manny Machado. 430 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: You know, one of the best our basement of play 431 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: the game. You have Xianta vog Arts, you have Jackson Merrill, 432 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: j cronin Worth. These are all very good players, and 433 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: they played the Dodgers tough or you know, and especially 434 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: in that what was it, twenty twenty four? I don't 435 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: know all that, you're sound the same. 436 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: But. 437 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: They got bounced by the Padres. 438 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: Right now, I think like until the Padres proved that 439 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: they can win when it matters, they're always going to 440 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: be number two to the Dodgers in this division. 441 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 4: And that's just how it is. 442 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: I'd say to even if I was covering them, I 443 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: wonder and I'm a little discouraged about the Padres Aalana, 444 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: because I think you're spot on about the ownership. You 445 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: can only do as much as you can spending wise, 446 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: and aj Preller is like an evil genius scientist, weirdo 447 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: and all the things that he does, he finds ways 448 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: to make insane deals. They still have a great bullpen, 449 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: Mason Miller, Jason Adam coming back, but they haven't won 450 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: when it matters, and until they do that, the Dodgers 451 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: are always going to have the one up in this division, 452 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: this rivalry pretty much any time you put them head 453 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 2: to head. 454 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: Clint, is there even a point to talk about the Giants? 455 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what the Giants are doing as a 456 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: weird organization. They bring in what a college manager to 457 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: be there manager you lose Justin Verlander, Wilmer Flores, who 458 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 3: for a while has been a heart and soul of 459 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: that that kind of infield there. Yeah, had some pitching help, 460 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: but I don't know this is a club that it's 461 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: what are we doing, San Francisco? What are you doing here? 462 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 3: I would love for the Giants to be good to 463 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: give the Dodgers, you know, a fight to bring back 464 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: that RIVALRYZ. I miss the Dodgers Giants rivalry like being 465 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: a real thing. It's been too long. 466 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: I agree. I couldn't agree with Tony Vittello. The new 467 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: manager obviously had a tremendous amount of success with the Giants. 468 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: All I really care about in terms of Vittello is 469 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: does that mean that Morgan Wallen is now a Giants fan? 470 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: And if so, when they come to the Dodgers, Like, 471 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: is there a way that like you can hook a 472 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: sister up with like just that? Just can I can 473 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: I meet him. That's all I care about when it 474 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: comes to the Giants as far as Bottello is concerned. 475 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I mean, you have to 476 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: if you have I mean, I trust in Buster Posey. 477 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: I think he's a very strong baseball mind. Obviously catchers 478 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: make great managers, and now he's the president of Baseball Ops. 479 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: But when you have a young manager that's a college 480 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: guy that's had success at the college level, that basically 481 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: could have run Knoxville, do you have to surround him 482 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: with so many people that have been at the big 483 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: league level before? I mean, does he have the support 484 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: group around him right to be able to have success? 485 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: And what is the what's the product on the field 486 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: going to look like? They just don't have a ton 487 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: of names out there that really there's not anybody that 488 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: really strikes fear in you as far as I'm concerned 489 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: with the lineup. So it'll you know, time will tell. 490 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: Time will tell. 491 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: Katy. We should also remind a lot of your family 492 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: to maybe not watch this part of the show. The 493 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: last thing I'll say about the Giants could shock, could flop? 494 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: What's your assessment of San Francisco. 495 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 4: My thing with the Giants is they're just so boring. 496 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: They're vanilla right now, is currently constructed, and it's when 497 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: is the last time the Giants have really had a 498 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: superstar like their most prominent players right now, Logan Web, 499 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: Matt Chapman, great players, great for the game, absolute competitors, 500 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: and then who else. I was looking at the Giants 501 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: forty Man this morning, and I saw just a bunch 502 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: of names that don't pop out that the casual baseball 503 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: fan is not going to recognize. And that's not to 504 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: say that they aren't good players or they can't be 505 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: productive players. It's just when you play in a market 506 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: like San Francisco, you expect to know the starting lineup, 507 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: you expect to know these names. 508 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 4: And I can't really. 509 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: Say, with a bunch of passion in my heart that 510 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: I would know these names if I wasn't a baseball writer. 511 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: And that, to me, is the bigger story for what's 512 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: going on with San Francisco. 513 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: And it's not for lack of effort. 514 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: They tried to get Correa, they tried to get Judge, 515 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: and ultimately they just haven't been able to And if 516 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: you're going to play in the NLS, you have to 517 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: have stars so I think Buster Posey taking over in 518 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: the front office was super cool. 519 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 4: I loved it. 520 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: It was clearly someone who cared so much about the 521 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: franchise and the organization that he wanted to take it 522 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: upon himself to make it better. Now, I'm just kind 523 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: of waiting for those moves to come to fruition because 524 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: it's been a very disappointing offseason for a Giants team that, 525 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: just like the d Backs, just like the Cardinals, were 526 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: right in it to sneak into that six number six 527 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 2: wild card spot. You're really telling me the San Francisco 528 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: Giants can't outbid the Cincinnati Reds who ended up sneaking in. 529 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: To me, I just. 530 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: Feel like the Giants have the market to do so 531 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: much better. They have the fan base to do so 532 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 2: much better. Give those fans or give Yeah, give those 533 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: fans in San Francisco a star. They haven't had one 534 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: in a while. 535 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: Hey, you can tell me. 536 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean, I'm just looking at their roster 537 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, this is the San Francisco Giants 538 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to recognition, WILLIEA. Domus, Matt Chapman, obviously, 539 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Raphael Dever's logan web that's it, that's what you got, 540 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: that's your team. 541 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: What I was going to add to that is, like 542 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: I kind of agree with the underlying assessment of you know, 543 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: Ralphael It feels like he's a bigger name, a bigger headline, 544 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: and just all of the drama that came out of 545 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 3: Boston rather than him being like one of these superstar 546 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 3: players in the game, Like he is not one of 547 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: the top twenty five people you think of when you 548 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: think of who are the faces of baseball? I don't 549 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: think of Ralphie Devers personally. Maybe that's just me, but him, 550 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: you know, Chapman, Definitely, I think of Chapman. I view 551 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 3: him a lot higher than a Devers than a Willia Doomas. 552 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, what are you doing, San Francisco? Figure it out? 553 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 3: That's all. 554 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about that. I 555 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: think Devers is better than a lot of people think. 556 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: And if you don't see, if you don't very good 557 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: baby player for sure on the daily like I have 558 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: here in Boston. Like I think they did him dirty 559 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: the way that Boston handled that whole situation, and it 560 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: continues to backfire with the whole Bregman thing. You get 561 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: rid of Devers. You save two hundred and fifty million 562 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Oh, well, that's going to give 563 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: you the money to extend Bregman. That was not because 564 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: you did absolutely nothing, and now he's in Chicago, so 565 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: good for you, Boston. I don't know what the hell 566 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: they're doing either. And we're not even going to mention 567 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: the colle out of Rockies because, honest to god, there's 568 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: no point until the Rockies force their way into the conversation. 569 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: We're not talking about it because they just they don't deserve. 570 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: They don't deserve to be there. They just don't deserve 571 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: to be there. Who does deserve is the pup that 572 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: I want to introduce you to, Clint Pisias. Let's get 573 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: to last lips, all right, kids, let me introduce you 574 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: to Charlie Bubba. This is a little that is a 575 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: Shitsu poodle mix. He's about two years old. He was 576 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: found as a stray in Friant, California, very close to Fresno, California. 577 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: That is where he is currently being fostered. He was 578 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: just groomed. Look at him, look so dapper with his 579 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: little handkerchief. He is scheduled to get neutered on January twentieth, 580 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: and he is available for adoption after he heals, so 581 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: basically February first, he'll be ready to go to his 582 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: forever home. He is great with other dogs, He's super 583 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: good with people. He's about seventeen pounds. He's just a 584 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: little guy. So if you're interested in adopting Charlie, please 585 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: reach out to me on social or Gidriy's guardian dot Org. 586 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: All right, kids, as we close out the show, baseball 587 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: thoughts for the road, and you'll get to know the 588 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: Munsie family very well. Katie, congratulations to Max and Kelly 589 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: Munsey and their family for adding another little girl. So 590 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: now Sophie has another sister, Macy Grace was born a 591 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: couple of days ago, So congrats to the Munsie family. 592 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: Now they have three kiddos, three kids, a lot of 593 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: Munsies there added to the Munsie crew. But yeah, congrats. 594 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: So we know Max, big friend of the Foul Network, 595 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: just one of the best people on the Dodgers, one 596 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: of the best people in baseball. And like you said, 597 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: I'm very much looking forward to to Katie getting that 598 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: opportunity to really get get tight with with Max Munsey. 599 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: Because that's a guy who's a dude. If you're talking 600 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: about somebody in that clubhouse, that is a guy who's 601 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: absolutely a dude. So congrats to the Munzie. 602 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: Crew, Congrats to Max, Congrats to Kersh for getting on WBC. Katie, 603 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: I love having you here, and it's gonna be Katie 604 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: and Eric's gonna be myself and Clint. On Monday, Katie 605 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: is off and then she joins us again on Thursday. 606 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: Hopefully Clayton joins us on Thursday as well. I have 607 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: a good rest of your week, guys, Happy weekend. We'll 608 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: talk to you soon. 609 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: Bye.