Speaker 1: You really like them and you'd really like to have one.
Speaker 1: That's okay if it's like a bike, but not if
Speaker 1: it's female body parts. It's one more thing, what one.
Speaker 2: Katie made the same face as me. This sounds disgusting.
Speaker 1: You really like them and you'd really like to have one.
Speaker 1: Is this a Jeff Dahmer sort of thing? No, Jack,
Speaker 1: it's a transgender thing. What we used to call sex
Speaker 1: changes back in the day when people spoke plainly, specifically
Speaker 1: the idea of auto gaynophilia, which I've that's when I'm oh, boy,
Speaker 1: this will be distant, folks. I can just tell the
Speaker 1: look in his eyes.
Speaker 2: Here we go, touching myself with a tie tight around
Speaker 2: my neck. Is that what that is? I'm kind of
Speaker 2: hanging myself from the closet.
Speaker 1: No, that's something very very different. That would be automous. Yeah. Anyway, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd read about this, but I got to admit I
Speaker 1: had never dug into it very deeply. And we got
Speaker 1: this fabulous email with a bunch of documentation from Alien Anonymous,
Speaker 1: interesting theories on what's actually driving the boys to think
Speaker 1: they need sex changes, the whole social contagion of girls
Speaker 1: who are terrified by puberty and disgusting hardcore porn and
Speaker 1: the rest of it just being afraid of womanhood and
Speaker 1: wanting to become dudes. That's one phenomenon, but the boy
Speaker 1: to girl transition is another thing.
Speaker 2: I don't have any I don't have any sense of
Speaker 2: how many like thirteen year old girl see porn internet porn.
Speaker 2: But if you did, you could, I could easily see
Speaker 2: how you'd come to the conclusion. I want no part
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, absolutely true. Yeah, agreed. So this feels very
Speaker 1: correct to me. Well, the girls are driven by social contagion,
Speaker 1: the boys are not. They have a kink called auto
Speaker 1: gynophilia in a lot of cases. I see this in
Speaker 1: my sixteen year old. You don't know how to get
Speaker 1: through to him that he doesn't actually have a woman's brain,
Speaker 1: and operations won't fix him. Quote. So if you read through,
Speaker 1: please don't demonize confused boys. Not all of them are
Speaker 1: trying to knock down women's sports or overturn the system.
Speaker 1: Many just don't understand what they're going through and they're
Speaker 1: getting very bad advice from the internet. So this is
Speaker 1: from an article from Substack entitled my AGP normalization Agenda.
Speaker 1: If you're reading this, you know AGP auto gainophilia is
Speaker 1: not a manifestation of girl brain that will drive the
Speaker 1: host to suicide if not indulged. But it's also not
Speaker 1: a dangerous perversion that leads to sexual abuse if ever
Speaker 1: fully acknowledged, at least not in anyone with self control.
Speaker 1: And it's not a cabal of sex perverts laughing as
Speaker 1: they force governments to bend to their fetish of abusing
Speaker 1: and erasing women. As long as these competing myths doke
Speaker 1: it out, the house card stands ba ba ba, and
Speaker 1: gender ideology continues to dominate and recruit anyone and everyone
Speaker 1: vulnerable to it. But the truth is so much simpler.
Speaker 1: It's an inconvenient self referential sexuality. It's essentially heterosexuality backfiring,
Speaker 1: and it does not have to be enabled or glorified,
Speaker 1: or feared or vilified. It's a fairly rare but well
Speaker 1: known and identified sexual developmental kink that some males develop.
Speaker 1: This is from what's going on with the boys. There
Speaker 1: are males who are sexually and romantically drawn to the
Speaker 1: idea of themselves as women. It is essentially inverted heterosexuality.
Speaker 1: In the past, these men typically transitioned in middle age,
Speaker 1: seemingly in accordance with the midlife crisis stage of life.
Speaker 1: Until that point, they had mostly repressed their desire to
Speaker 1: be women, living as typical straight men, often getting married
Speaker 1: and having children, then ultimately giving into their deep dark
Speaker 1: secret and transitioning. You've likely heard of autogidophilia, but it's
Speaker 1: widely misunderstood. You don't to jump in or anything, or
Speaker 1: should I plunge on? Okay? Fast forward to today in
Speaker 1: the progressive we live in a culture that glorifies being
Speaker 1: transgender or queer and asserts there is no greater villain
Speaker 1: than the straight white men. Masculinity is ridiculed and gender
Speaker 1: nonconformity is praised. You see what I'm getting at. There
Speaker 1: is no incentive to repress anymore. Now. The incentive is
Speaker 1: to embrace and to fuel those auto sexual impulses, even
Speaker 1: for a young man who may be much closer to
Speaker 1: just kind of straight in the normal way allo sexual
Speaker 1: as opposed to auto sexual. It gets a little complicated
Speaker 1: into psychology, but anyway more attracted to actual women than
Speaker 1: the idea of the self as a woman, but who
Speaker 1: feels socially awkward and intimidated by girls may lean into
Speaker 1: auto gynophilic fantasies as an easier solution to meeting his
Speaker 1: sexual needs. Remember, these boys are typically shy and autistic.
Speaker 1: Unlike in the past, auto sexual impulses are no longer
Speaker 1: an entirely solitary fantasy, but are fueled and ed by
Speaker 1: larger cultural forces. Social media and porn are playing a
Speaker 1: much greater role in enabling and sustaining their self directed
Speaker 1: sexuality than would be possible without them. This is not
Speaker 1: all a case for the social contagent theories is seen
Speaker 1: in girls, because for the boys, social media and porn
Speaker 1: did not create their auto gidophilia. It's merely another technology
Speaker 1: that enables and encourages it. It does this in a
Speaker 1: less obvious way as well, through the state of chronic
Speaker 1: body dissociation of one who spends most of the life online.
Speaker 1: How only are these teen boys and young men attached
Speaker 1: to a fantasy of themselves in their head, but an
Speaker 1: avatar of themselves they've created in the virtual world, neither
Speaker 1: of which match their physical reality.
Speaker 2: It's also pretty well known as a guy who's read
Speaker 2: a lot about internet porn because I got a couple
Speaker 2: of teenage boys and the dangers that it is to
Speaker 2: your brain and everything like that. The number of straight
Speaker 2: men it turns into interested in being with dudes. It's
Speaker 2: a very common thing.
Speaker 3: Really, just yeah, watching it and getting interested or.
Speaker 2: I don't exactly know, but there's something with the constant
Speaker 2: stimulation in your brain that at some point apparently your
Speaker 2: brain just mixes it all together. It's just all stimulating.
Speaker 2: I'm as stimulated by that person as that person. It's
Speaker 2: just all stimulating to me. And I've read a number
Speaker 2: of guys talking about Oh yeah, I was fully convinced
Speaker 2: I was into dudes, and then I got away from
Speaker 2: internet port and I went back to be in the
Speaker 2: heterosexual that I was, and like, I can't even believe
Speaker 2: that even happened. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: You got to be really careful about applying logical standards
Speaker 1: or even moral standards sometimes to sexual response, because, for instance,
Speaker 1: there are many women who have been raped and experienced
Speaker 1: unmistakable signs of sexual arousal and it is and they're
Speaker 1: ashamed of it, and they feel terrible about it because
Speaker 1: it's a brutal, terrible crime. It's not a decision you make, no,
Speaker 1: And I could see you know, if you're looking at
Speaker 1: online porn and there's dudes.
Speaker 2: Or both are or whatever hours a day and probably
Speaker 2: for lots of young men.
Speaker 1: Right, and you'll find yourself aroused by that and think,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I am into that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but right.
Speaker 2: And then another thing on the whole, the masculine image,
Speaker 2: and how we don't have that anymore. Who's the celebrity
Speaker 2: that died yesterday. I don't remember his real name. He
Speaker 2: was the dad in the TV show Good Times in
Speaker 2: the seventies. He got a fair amount of attention John Amos,
Speaker 2: John Amos. So you're too young for this, Katie. But
Speaker 2: it was a big time hit sitcom in the seventies
Speaker 2: with an all black family, and he was a man.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a man's man that ran that
Speaker 2: family and was the breadwimmer, brett winner and the disciplinarian
Speaker 2: and everything like that, the way men used to be
Speaker 2: portrayed in TV when I was growing up. Now, any
Speaker 2: dad in any sitcom is a week of feminine dumb
Speaker 2: has no role in any decision making whatsoever. And I
Speaker 2: mean there's some sort of.
Speaker 1: Cartoonish, mocking version of masculinity.
Speaker 2: So that has to play a role in what you
Speaker 2: are comfortable with or not comfortable with, or preferred as to.
Speaker 3: And I know I've said this on the radio show,
Speaker 3: but I cannot tell you the amount of friends that
Speaker 3: I've talked to are just randoms that have mentioned like
Speaker 3: where did the men go?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I hear that from women all the time too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So on. One further note on this from Matt and Honolulu,
Speaker 1: who recommended a book on the topic by Alice Dreger,
Speaker 1: who is a real lefty but a scientist and an
Speaker 1: actual scientist and despises militant queer theory in transgender activism
Speaker 1: because it's none of it, None of it is data
Speaker 1: driven or has any scientific backing. So and she writes
Speaker 1: about he says, it's both hilarious and terrifying. The combination
Speaker 1: of utterly crazy ideology combined with a militancy and zealousness
Speaker 1: of its adherence that's so resolute it would make the
Speaker 1: Imperial Japanese Army uncomfortable, which is pretty good sentence. Is
Speaker 1: something to behold This topic, while difficult, is very important
Speaker 1: in understanding while the typical transgender female to male person
Speaker 1: went from either what we were describing earlier, an autogonophilia
Speaker 1: case in middle age but typically it could also be
Speaker 1: an extremely feminine gay man in the late twentieth century
Speaker 1: to hulking heterosexual males who enjoy nothing more than slamming
Speaker 1: a volleyball in a young girl's face in the present day.
Speaker 1: These two groups need to be disambugated disambiguated. I knew
Speaker 1: I was going to screw that up. Note to self
Speaker 1: use the term disambiguated more often. In other words, seen
Speaker 1: is two very different things. To stop the most egregious
Speaker 1: excesses of radical queer theory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope this is like a phase something that's
Speaker 3: going to phase out over time.
Speaker 1: Yes, it will, because it's utterly nuts. It's unsupportable by
Speaker 1: anything scientific or logical.
Speaker 2: Ye, it is.
Speaker 1: It is a cult.
Speaker 2: Well, the question is it will phase out. But will
Speaker 2: we phase it out or will it be phased out
Speaker 2: of us by a more aggressive society winning over because
Speaker 2: we can't get our act together.
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be over my cold dead cis gender heterosexual
Speaker 1: body white? White? Oh yeah, yeah, very very white. But
Speaker 1: the idea that look and this is so insidious. And
Speaker 1: as we've said many times, these people wrote books. Their
Speaker 1: names are on the cover. They describe precisely what they
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Identify anybody who's the least bit uncomfortable
Speaker 1: with their sexuality, their masculinity, their femininity, just anything, convince
Speaker 1: them that they are part of the army to overcome
Speaker 1: the oppression of Western society. Will recruit them. Meanwhile, we'll
Speaker 1: get all the black folks, will convince them that the
Speaker 1: system is against them. Blah blah blah. Meanwhile, we'll convince
Speaker 1: everybody who's this, that or the other and convince them
Speaker 1: that they need to overthrow Western society and will will
Speaker 1: assemble an army of misfits that all are convinced that
Speaker 1: Marxism is the brave new utopia. Again, this is not
Speaker 1: some sort of fantasy I have. These people wrote.
Speaker 2: Books women shouldn't have penises. You're here, it's decided, then.
Speaker 1: I'm a hard yes on that principle you've expressed staunchly
Speaker 1: in your camp. No, Pennis, you know, the father in
Speaker 1: good times today would probably be looked at as toxic.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely toxic male.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: And there he was raising JJ Walker and Michael Jackson's
Speaker 2: little sister.
Speaker 1: That's right. Worth pointing out that his wife, Florida or Flow,
Speaker 1: was also very wise and sweet and played an important
Speaker 1: role in the family in the way that a man
Speaker 1: and a woman do. It was a really a beautiful show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was closer to like what actual families are like. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I guess that's it.