1
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,240
Speaker 1: Yes, we are back on nor Show with nor Horse

2
00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,480
Speaker 1: Takes for whom the news gets weird. I am Mary

3
00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,240
Speaker 1: Catherine Ham.

4
00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,640
Speaker 2: And I'm Carol Markovitz and him Mary Catherine. We are

5
00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,600
Speaker 2: recording this after another very calm, chill weekend.

6
00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,159
Speaker 1: Nobody can ever chill, will let us rest, They will not,

7
00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,840
Speaker 1: And here we are to catch up on just like

8
00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, two.

9
00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,000
Speaker 2: Things, yeah, some things, you know, some things have happened.

10
00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah.

11
00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:39,400
Speaker 2: So since we last spoke, Israel has attacked Iran and

12
00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:45,400
Speaker 2: it's going very well so far. You know, Israel very

13
00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,040
Speaker 2: quickly said this is not going to be a quick thing.

14
00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,360
Speaker 2: After the first attack, they were asked like, is this it?

15
00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,880
Speaker 2: They said, this is not even the end of the beginning.

16
00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,360
Speaker 2: They see this as being war, not just strikes. And

17
00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,039
Speaker 2: you know, the night that it all went down. So

18
00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,760
Speaker 2: one of the funnier things about it, about an hour

19
00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:13,080
Speaker 2: before the strikes began, Mike Kokabe, who is ambassador to

20
00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,520
Speaker 2: Israel from the US, tweeted that he would be remaining

21
00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,840
Speaker 2: at the embassy in Jerusalem, and everyone was like, why

22
00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,640
Speaker 2: are you tweeting this at us in the middle of

23
00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,840
Speaker 2: the night, Mike Hookabe. Yeah, So it was clear it

24
00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,280
Speaker 2: was happening. Now, I am not a foreign policy expert.

25
00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,440
Speaker 2: I know this doesn't stop people from pretending they are

26
00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,240
Speaker 2: on X, but I follow it closely obviously, but I

27
00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,160
Speaker 2: could not possibly call myself an expert in the field. However,

28
00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,320
Speaker 2: that night, the rumor that spread on X was that

29
00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:54,000
Speaker 2: Trump didn't know about this, Yeah, knowing absolutely nothing about

30
00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:59,920
Speaker 2: what was going on. I responded that, like, obviously, Israel's

31
00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,240
Speaker 2: doing this without the United States kind of permission, Yes,

32
00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,320
Speaker 2: and it was. Trump has said that I ran had

33
00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,680
Speaker 2: sixty days to reach an agreement. It was day sixty one.

34
00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,320
Speaker 2: This kind of thing, it just it drives me bananas

35
00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,560
Speaker 2: because these people have followings on X that say things

36
00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,720
Speaker 2: that we all know are not true and that we

37
00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,480
Speaker 2: can't be true. It really does make me crazy.

38
00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:33,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it is frustrating, and the immediate jump

39
00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,040
Speaker 1: to petty domestic politics, which look, yeah, is part of

40
00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,119
Speaker 1: my job. Petty domestic politics is what I've spend way

41
00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,000
Speaker 1: too much of my time on. Right, But in this case,

42
00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,840
Speaker 1: this is Israel going after an existential threat that frankly,

43
00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,000
Speaker 1: if they went nuclear, would affect everyone. Because this is

44
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,480
Speaker 1: an insane and awful regime, right, and so to turn

45
00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,560
Speaker 1: it into like, ooh, they embarrass President Trump as a

46
00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:07,480
Speaker 1: sort of domestic politics victory is a silly because it's

47
00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,760
Speaker 1: not true, and he just sort of like makes you

48
00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:16,000
Speaker 1: look very small because it's not about that. And look,

49
00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that this would have happened under Biden,

50
00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,040
Speaker 1: because I think Biden would have been saying openly, or

51
00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,639
Speaker 1: a Harris administration certainly would have been saying openly, oh no, no, no,

52
00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,359
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to do any of that. Under a

53
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,440
Speaker 1: Trump administration, they've talked behind the scenes. And although I

54
00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,400
Speaker 1: was worried about Steve Whitkoff making deals shared with the

55
00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,480
Speaker 1: Iranians because I thought that didn't look like a good idea,

56
00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,160
Speaker 1: it seems clear to me that they probably look. I

57
00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,880
Speaker 1: think Trump likes deals. So Steve Witkoff goes in there, like,

58
00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,720
Speaker 1: we're going to make a deal. Trump's like, maybe we'll

59
00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,240
Speaker 1: make a deal. But he's serious about the deadline, and

60
00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,840
Speaker 1: he's serious about backing Israel up if they need to

61
00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,200
Speaker 1: do what they need to do. And so he did

62
00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,600
Speaker 1: the deadline. And here's the thing about passing the deadline

63
00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,400
Speaker 1: and then making good on a threat is that it

64
00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,320
Speaker 1: makes you a credible leader. Exactly to those who we

65
00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,960
Speaker 1: want to be scared of us. So it also means,

66
00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,640
Speaker 1: by the way, that so many of our friends in

67
00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,960
Speaker 1: Israel who I want to just send up prayers for

68
00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,400
Speaker 1: are in danger, many of them in bomb shelters or

69
00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,920
Speaker 1: in special parts of their houses to protect them from

70
00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,440
Speaker 1: Iranian ballistic missiles. But because of the military and intel

71
00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,200
Speaker 1: successes of Israel, which have been astounding over the past

72
00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,400
Speaker 1: year or so, fewer of those ballistic missiles are coming

73
00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,159
Speaker 1: in each time because they are able to target where

74
00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,279
Speaker 1: they're coming from and take those out. Amazing.

75
00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, Iran is in this tough spot where Israel

76
00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,599
Speaker 2: keeps taking out their launchers every time they launch missiles,

77
00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,200
Speaker 2: but they can't not launch missiles, so you know, kind

78
00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,120
Speaker 2: of kind of a tough little spot for them. It's

79
00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,440
Speaker 2: going wildly well. There have been some deaths in Israel

80
00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,040
Speaker 2: which are very unfortunate obviously, also so any innocent Iranians

81
00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,880
Speaker 2: who are caught up in this. It's really desperately sad.

82
00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,920
Speaker 2: Iranian people have wanted to get rid of the mulahs

83
00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,359
Speaker 2: for so long, but hopefully this will be a moment

84
00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,080
Speaker 2: where that can happen. Even you know, people who have

85
00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,279
Speaker 2: opposed this attack, like Tucker Carlson, for example, in the

86
00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,000
Speaker 2: days before the attack happened, he wrote this whole long thing,

87
00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,080
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to get into it, but basically

88
00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,360
Speaker 2: he said, if the Iranians were close to getting a nuke,

89
00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,320
Speaker 2: the United States would already be at war with them.

90
00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,880
Speaker 2: Why would we want that? Why would we as Americans

91
00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,560
Speaker 2: want them to get really close to getting a nuke

92
00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,960
Speaker 2: and that's when we would go to war with them.

93
00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,680
Speaker 2: This is a much cleaner, safer situation for Americans. I

94
00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,760
Speaker 2: don't understand how any American can oppose Israel doing this

95
00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,120
Speaker 2: in Iran because it helps us without us having to

96
00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,760
Speaker 2: have boots on the ground period.

97
00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,360
Speaker 1: Well, and I understand people being concerned. I don't want

98
00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,799
Speaker 1: to be naive, but I am. There is this special

99
00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,920
Speaker 1: moment that we are in that because of Israel's incredible successes,

100
00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,120
Speaker 1: they sort of stood naked before the world. This program

101
00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,880
Speaker 1: and Iran's various sites didn't have the defenses that they

102
00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,239
Speaker 1: would otherwise have, So it seemed like a good opportunity

103
00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:25,160
Speaker 1: to add a relatively low cost, just like in general

104
00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,520
Speaker 1: of consequences and of retaliation, to go ahead and make

105
00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,080
Speaker 1: a serious dent in their situation. As you say, their

106
00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,880
Speaker 1: public is not exactly resoundingly behind them. Of course, a

107
00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,960
Speaker 1: lot would have to happen before the public rises up

108
00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,839
Speaker 1: and there's any sort of change. But I just you

109
00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,200
Speaker 1: don't have to be an expert to think, do I

110
00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,520
Speaker 1: want Iran to have nukes? And the answer is no.

111
00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,080
Speaker 1: And the Obama administration's plan for keeping them from nukes

112
00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,039
Speaker 1: seemed to be paid let them get extremely close to

113
00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,360
Speaker 1: nukes and also give them lots of money to get

114
00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,039
Speaker 1: which I confess I don't.

115
00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, never made a lot of sense and didn't think

116
00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,679
Speaker 2: that was strategy was going to work, and it hasn't.

117
00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,040
Speaker 2: So Also, Iran has not let in inspectors in a

118
00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,280
Speaker 2: long time. This idea that they're being so transparent and

119
00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,240
Speaker 2: oh look at israelis bombing them for no reason is ridiculous.

120
00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,760
Speaker 2: Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb. President Trump said that,

121
00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,040
Speaker 2: and we were hoping to get back at the negotiating table.

122
00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,920
Speaker 2: We will see, and then he added there are several

123
00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,840
Speaker 2: people in leadership that will not be coming back, which

124
00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,400
Speaker 2: is a perfect little Trump is.

125
00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,320
Speaker 1: He also said, when asked, like you knows how did

126
00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,320
Speaker 1: they die? Or they died because they were taken out by,

127
00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,280
Speaker 1: and he goes, well, they didn't I have COVID, and

128
00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,600
Speaker 1: I just he is a very funny president.

129
00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,760
Speaker 2: He is us.

130
00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,120
Speaker 1: He's a very funny president. Apparently, Iran is now signaling

131
00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,280
Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal reports that it would like to

132
00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:02,360
Speaker 1: de escalate hostilities and result resumed talks over its nuclear programs,

133
00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,080
Speaker 1: sending messages to Israel and the US via Arab intermediaries.

134
00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,840
Speaker 1: Middle Eastern and European officials said, oh what changed. I also,

135
00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,600
Speaker 1: I would like to note every Arab country quietly does

136
00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,560
Speaker 1: not want them to have nukes. They are not loud

137
00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,680
Speaker 1: about it, but they want this result. And they also

138
00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,040
Speaker 1: have backed up Israel by shooting many things out of

139
00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,040
Speaker 1: the air headed toward Israel, at least some of those

140
00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,800
Speaker 1: allied Arab countries. So even though it's like a little

141
00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,959
Speaker 1: testy over there, they don't want Iran to have a

142
00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,640
Speaker 1: nuke either, right, Why would they?

143
00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes no sense. We'll be right back on normally.

144
00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,679
Speaker 2: Other news. This weekend, there was a shooting in Minnesota

145
00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,959
Speaker 2: where a gunman killed Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and

146
00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,400
Speaker 2: her spouse, and he shot two other lawmakers. The gunman

147
00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,360
Speaker 2: is Van Spolter, I reported that first, thank you very

148
00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,319
Speaker 2: much she did.

149
00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,040
Speaker 1: If you do not follow at Carol, you should because

150
00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,920
Speaker 1: she does break some news.

151
00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes I break news. It's very very scary whenever I do.

152
00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,080
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't recommend it. It's a very

153
00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,960
Speaker 2: nerve wracking few minutes every time. Where I hope that

154
00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000
Speaker 2: I got it right, I haven't correct. I haven't been

155
00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,040
Speaker 2: wrong yet. I had one time where I said a

156
00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,520
Speaker 2: jury decision was in and that hadn't become public yet,

157
00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,280
Speaker 2: but then the jury went back into deliberations, so it

158
00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,800
Speaker 2: seemed like I got it wrong. But other than that one,

159
00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,560
Speaker 2: I'm batting whatever the good batting averages.

160
00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,720
Speaker 1: Our girl is a good follower. But this terrible situation

161
00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,400
Speaker 1: is the fifty five year old Democratic leader in the

162
00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,400
Speaker 1: Minnesota House and her husband. They have children. I believe

163
00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,240
Speaker 1: he also shot their dog. It's just like the worst story.

164
00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:01,480
Speaker 1: He also the suspect also shot allegedly another lawmaker. It's

165
00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,120
Speaker 1: unclear exactly what the situation is right now. The Wall

166
00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,880
Speaker 1: Street Journal is reporting that this guy has really disparate employment,

167
00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,760
Speaker 1: sort of a very confusing career path ministry. They said

168
00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,880
Speaker 1: he works with some sort of eye donation company right

169
00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,440
Speaker 1: now and is also trying to get a security company

170
00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,400
Speaker 1: off the ground. He apparently has a family, but also

171
00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,640
Speaker 1: has roommates in another part of town. They did report

172
00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,280
Speaker 1: that he has been a preacher and is that specifically

173
00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,400
Speaker 1: worked with the Democratic Republic of Congo, which is an

174
00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,880
Speaker 1: interesting choice, and that he is a pro life person

175
00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:43,200
Speaker 1: that perhaps there's a list of abortion allies that he

176
00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,360
Speaker 1: had in his possession. He shoots both of these lawmakers.

177
00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to get over our skis because that's

178
00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,959
Speaker 1: what the press always does in these situations and it's

179
00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:59,439
Speaker 1: not healthy for anyone. But every single person should be

180
00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,920
Speaker 1: able to say this is the worst and we want

181
00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,120
Speaker 1: nothing to do with anyone who agrees with us doing

182
00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,319
Speaker 1: anything like this, Unlike the Luigi situation, yep, I would

183
00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,439
Speaker 1: just like to say that very loudly, right.

184
00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,600
Speaker 3: You're not like, well, maybe the right right, like I

185
00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't shoot people, but no, no, this is not doing

186
00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,880
Speaker 3: that wrong and we don't stand for it on normally.

187
00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,720
Speaker 1: Also, I would like to note that Senator John Hoffman

188
00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,080
Speaker 1: sixty and his wife, Yvette, who were also attacked. I

189
00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:37,599
Speaker 1: believe Yvette shielded their daughter, like incredibly heroically. There was

190
00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,960
Speaker 1: a man hunt for this guy. He has been apprehended.

191
00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,200
Speaker 1: We will know more information. Apparently there's a manifesto. I

192
00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,800
Speaker 1: don't know if it will be released. Law enforcements seem

193
00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,679
Speaker 1: to say not at this point. And also it sounds

194
00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,559
Speaker 1: like someone that he was caught because someone saw him

195
00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,480
Speaker 1: on a trail camp. So way to go, hunters. Wow,

196
00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,520
Speaker 1: we appreciate it happened.

197
00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,200
Speaker 2: I didn't hear that.

198
00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,360
Speaker 1: Amazing, that is what I saw this morning. So anyway,

199
00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,000
Speaker 1: as always, we will be careful with such news unless

200
00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,560
Speaker 1: someone is on tape and many witnesses saying this is

201
00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,440
Speaker 1: my motive. I am currently practicing that motive. I don't

202
00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,920
Speaker 1: like to say that until we're going.

203
00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,679
Speaker 2: To give it a minute. That's right, Yeah, we're going

204
00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,240
Speaker 2: to take a short break and come right back with normally.

205
00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:26,400
Speaker 2: In other news, Donald Trump, you know when he's good.

206
00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,600
Speaker 2: He is very very good. My friend Cliff Asnis, who

207
00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,200
Speaker 2: is a big opponent of tariffs, after he tweeted this

208
00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,800
Speaker 2: after Trump said for those people who say they want peace,

209
00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,080
Speaker 2: you can't have peace if I Ran has a nuclear weapon.

210
00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,400
Speaker 2: So for all those wonderful people, you don't want to

211
00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,600
Speaker 2: do anything about I Ran having a nuclear weapon. That's

212
00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,079
Speaker 2: not peace. And Cliff Astnes wrote DJT. You know, today

213
00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I can live with some tariffs, which is

214
00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,720
Speaker 2: really where we are on Trump, like he is so good.

215
00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,920
Speaker 2: And then other times I just don't understand this man.

216
00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,960
Speaker 2: And one of those times is these new carve outs

217
00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,480
Speaker 2: for people who are here illegally and have jobs and

218
00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,160
Speaker 2: in the farming and hotel and leisure businesses are getting

219
00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,040
Speaker 2: a carve out to not be deported. And I hate that.

220
00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,000
Speaker 2: I hate it. I hate it because there should be

221
00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,840
Speaker 2: no special carveouts. What about uber eats, what about you know,

222
00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,440
Speaker 2: any other number of businesses that rely on a class

223
00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,520
Speaker 2: of people that they don't have to pay minimum wage too,

224
00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,480
Speaker 2: you know, the people who are very worried about their

225
00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,600
Speaker 2: their maids and their gardeners and whatever, very very Yeah,

226
00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,800
Speaker 2: they're just like, what about my cleaning staff? What about

227
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,680
Speaker 2: their people? Right? So I really don't like this at all.

228
00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,040
Speaker 2: The other thing kind of related to this that he

229
00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:56,360
Speaker 2: reversed himself on is made a deal with China, subject

230
00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,679
Speaker 2: to final approval. But one of the things was we

231
00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,719
Speaker 2: agreed Chinese students using our colleges and university, which has

232
00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,319
Speaker 2: always been good with me. He tweeted. I think that's

233
00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,000
Speaker 2: a problem. I think it's a real problem that China

234
00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,360
Speaker 2: can send anyone they want to our universities and we

235
00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,480
Speaker 2: really don't know who's coming in. And so it ties

236
00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,640
Speaker 2: really well with the illegal immigration problem because these special

237
00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,680
Speaker 2: carve outs do not help us and they don't lead

238
00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,600
Speaker 2: us to a good place. If you want to have

239
00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,240
Speaker 2: special workers and special industries, we have worker programs for that,

240
00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,600
Speaker 2: legal worker programs. We don't just overlook that these industries

241
00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,640
Speaker 2: have illegal immigrants working there and say, oh, well, they

242
00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,760
Speaker 2: need those immigrants, and that's just what we're going to

243
00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,880
Speaker 2: do here. So Donald Trump Man, I.

244
00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,160
Speaker 1: Know, well, and once again you're punishing people who obey

245
00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,240
Speaker 1: the law because it's much more expensive for them to

246
00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,760
Speaker 1: run their businesses because they're paying people minimum wage. I

247
00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,240
Speaker 1: love liberals, by the way, where it's like, we have

248
00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,760
Speaker 1: to have a twenty dollars minimum wage, yeah, which will

249
00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,320
Speaker 1: crush the actual not black market economy, but for the

250
00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,880
Speaker 1: gray and black market where people are being paid off

251
00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,960
Speaker 1: the books, paying whatever you want two dollars an hour,

252
00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,960
Speaker 1: that seems fine with us. So it's a little weird

253
00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,680
Speaker 1: to me. I do think there's a way to achieve

254
00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,960
Speaker 1: basically not turning everyone off with the mass deportation effort

255
00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,200
Speaker 1: while also getting done a lot of work, which is

256
00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,680
Speaker 1: to do what he said he was going to do.

257
00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,680
Speaker 1: And the beauty and the annoyance about Trump is that

258
00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,480
Speaker 1: he'll say a thousand things. You can always say, well,

259
00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,080
Speaker 1: he said that. But look, prioritizing criminal aliens is very,

260
00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:42,520
Speaker 1: very very popular. Do that do targeted pickups? If there

261
00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,640
Speaker 1: are various industries that are more problematic than others, I

262
00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,600
Speaker 1: think those are worth sending a signal about it because

263
00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,680
Speaker 1: all the other parts of that industry have to go ooh,

264
00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:53,920
Speaker 1: should we.

265
00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,440
Speaker 2: Be doing this exactly?

266
00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,680
Speaker 1: And I just don't understand what part of the law

267
00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:04,720
Speaker 1: has been repealed, right, because to my knowledge none, it's

268
00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,960
Speaker 1: just still illegal to employ all these people. Yeah. By

269
00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,720
Speaker 1: the way, I remember the days when like one nanny

270
00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,400
Speaker 1: scandal would get somebody kicked out of it an administration.

271
00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,520
Speaker 2: Yes, do we even do that anymore? I think, Okay,

272
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,080
Speaker 2: we just accept that everybody has a legal immigrant nannies.

273
00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,920
Speaker 1: You know, let's keep telling me.

274
00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did a border trip last year now, and

275
00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,920
Speaker 2: one of the things that the agriculture worker that we

276
00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,280
Speaker 2: spoke to Holmes and agriculture business on the border of

277
00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,440
Speaker 2: Texas and Mexico was saying he does not hire anyone

278
00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,560
Speaker 2: who is here legally. But he also has a lot

279
00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,600
Speaker 2: of trouble with the guest worker program. They don't have

280
00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,920
Speaker 2: a good effective guests worker program. He often does not

281
00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,440
Speaker 2: have enough people. He also the whole idea, you know,

282
00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,440
Speaker 2: just pay more and you get Americans. He says, well, no,

283
00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,680
Speaker 2: because you have to live in this rural area where

284
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,640
Speaker 2: are grown. And he says he has two Americans who

285
00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,600
Speaker 2: come every season to work for him, but it's very rare,

286
00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,440
Speaker 2: very hard, and he would like to bring in more

287
00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,159
Speaker 2: legal workers, and he has trouble doing that. And I

288
00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,919
Speaker 2: don't think exempting farm markers is going to lead us

289
00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,520
Speaker 2: to having a better guest worker program, which Trump has

290
00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,800
Speaker 2: mentioned he wanted right he is. He has said he

291
00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,960
Speaker 2: wants a better guest worker legal program. I think exempting

292
00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,600
Speaker 2: these illegal workers in these industries moves us farther away

293
00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,240
Speaker 2: from that goal.

294
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, while we're while we're airing grievances,

295
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,719
Speaker 1: I would like to point out that still TikTok should

296
00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,560
Speaker 1: not exist on American app markets right now according to

297
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,720
Speaker 1: the law. However you feel about that law, the law

298
00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,639
Speaker 1: is not being obeyed and so interesting to me and

299
00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,080
Speaker 1: actually a good segue into our next topic, because this

300
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,240
Speaker 1: is the almost the only thing that Trump is acting

301
00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,760
Speaker 1: like a king about. He is not enforcing this TikTok law. Yeah,

302
00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,480
Speaker 1: the left doesn't care because they really like TikTok, so.

303
00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,480
Speaker 2: Right doesn't matter. It's fine. Yeah, it's not a king here.

304
00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, just want to note that the law is not

305
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,639
Speaker 1: being followed on that he keeps saying I'm going to delay,

306
00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,400
Speaker 1: and there's nothing in the law that says he's allowed

307
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,520
Speaker 1: to delay. It just shouldn't be happening.

308
00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,480
Speaker 2: We'll be right back on.

309
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:23,240
Speaker 1: Normally, the No Kings rallies happened all around the nation,

310
00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,160
Speaker 1: reportedly about two thousand different sites. At the same time,

311
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,399
Speaker 1: the Army Parade was going on. Army two hundred and

312
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,760
Speaker 1: fiftieth Birthday Parade was happening in Washington, d C. I

313
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,280
Speaker 1: do want to point out that in my area, I

314
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:43,880
Speaker 1: ran across some No Kings protesters. They were all boomerirific ladies.

315
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,040
Speaker 1: Like I was, like, it's hot outside today, everybody make

316
00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 1: sure you hydrate. But we drove past a little crowd

317
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,800
Speaker 1: and my kids said, and I don't talk to them

318
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 1: about politics a lot. We talk about civics, but we

319
00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,199
Speaker 1: don't talk about politics. Sure, And they asked about this

320
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 1: and they're like, what is that, No Kings, what is happening?

321
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 1: And I said, well, those are people who don't like

322
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and this is their First Amendment right to

323
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 1: protest him and say that they don't like him because

324
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 1: they believe he's acting like a king. And they said,

325
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 1: wasn't he elected in the election, And I said, yes,

326
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 1: that is a salient point, ladies, that is a very

327
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,199
Speaker 1: unboldlike behavior.

328
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:29,200
Speaker 2: Also, kings generally wouldn't allow no King protests on their streets.

329
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 2: Just one of those things you hear about kings. We

330
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,160
Speaker 2: also drove by a really small one in Coral Springs, Florida.

331
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 2: They were waving American flags and not blocking traffic, and

332
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 2: I just thought, even our leftists are better in Florida.

333
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that may be. The are seemed

334
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 1: to be a short lived little protest near where we were.

335
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: I will say it did seem like they might have

336
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: gotten a little more patriotic over the past couple of

337
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 1: weeks when they saw how the LA stuff was landing.

338
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 2: Right and good for them, good good, Yeah, we was.

339
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: However, there was one death at a Salt Lake City,

340
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: no kings, And methinks that if conservatives gathered in two

341
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: thousand gatherings and there were one murder, that that would

342
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: be a huge national story, but it's rather small at

343
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 1: any rate. That was a it was a weird situation

344
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 1: where a guy with a rifle showed up, was charging people,

345
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: and a peacekeeper, a designated peacekeeper inside the crowd shot

346
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 1: at the assailant and miss hit a bystander, which is

347
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: just terrible. But the guy with the original guy with

348
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 1: the rifle is being charged. So that happened at the parade,

349
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 1: which was supposed to be the fascistic display on the

350
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 1: National Mall, it was actually just an army parade. It

351
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: wasn't a Trump parade. He was there because he's the

352
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 1: commander in chief. It's the two hundred and fiftieth birthday

353
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: of the army. This event has actually been planned because

354
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 1: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary was coming up for

355
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 1: a long time and people knew it. There have been

356
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: plans in the work since two thousand twenty three at

357
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: least just.

358
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: To do this. Yeah. Yeah, he had very little to

359
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 2: do with this, and yet it was like, look at

360
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: the king with his military parade for his birthday, and

361
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 2: it's like, yes, it really wasn't and just he makes

362
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: people lose their minds like this. I actually think the

363
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 2: no Kings is very bad branding. I don't think that

364
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: they nailed it with this one.

365
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: I think they did either. They're usually better at.

366
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 2: That, so much better. And the pic pussy you know

367
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: hat thing in twenty sixteen, way more effective, way more

368
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: like striking and lands. Where kind of his weaknesses were,

369
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: it was with women, and it was the comments he

370
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: made to Billy Bush. They nailed that he's not trying

371
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: to be a king, and I don't know who thinks otherwise.

372
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: So say, his answers to whether people should be concerned

373
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: about him being a king are far better than Obama's were,

374
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 1: because Obama would just wax poetic about how he kind

375
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: of wished he was but he can't do it, and

376
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could find tape of Trump doing the same.

377
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: But when he was just recently asked about it, he

378
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: was like, I don't feel like a king, like I

379
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: keep having to check with Mike Johnson I can do.

380
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: And also like local district court judges keep stopping him.

381
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 2: So you know, there was that meme going around like

382
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: Donald Trump was going to resign from the presidency and

383
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: take a really you know, the high power job of district.

384
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: District court judge.

385
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

386
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: I do want to play just a tiny clip of

387
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: the Army two fifty parade, which was I must say,

388
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: very cool. Here is the scary, UH military parade. These

389
00:22:40,640 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: guys are marching and you'll hear the horrifying soundtracks. When

390
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: I think fascists, I think John Phillips SUSA. Right.

391
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: Also, I should know, I like London does that like

392
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: three times a week.

393
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: So oh yeah. In fact, he did it the same

394
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: day as US this year. Yes, this landed on Trump's birthday,

395
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: but also Flag Day and also the two hundred and

396
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: fiftieth birthday of the US Army. I loved that they

397
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: did all the different eras of uniforms. I loved it

398
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: looked fantastic. The voiceover if you were a history person

399
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: or at all interested in this, was also great because

400
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: you're just learning things about the American military while they're

401
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: troop in the color as they say in Britain, the

402
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: lawmakers are watching Carol. Would you like to guess how

403
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: long Trump's speech was at this event?

404
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh? You know Trump likes to give the really long speech,

405
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: but I feel like the fact that you're asking me

406
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: means it didn't go two hours.

407
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: So for the Trump Parade on his birthday, where he's

408
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: a king, he gave an eight minute speech.

409
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good, He's very, very good.

410
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: And he also swore in a bunch of officers in

411
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: the middle of the parade, or a bunch of new

412
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: enlisties and re enlisties at the parade, which is such

413
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: a cool thing, except that I joked that he's literally

414
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: in the streets of America telling them to obey his orders,

415
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: and we're all just blind to this horrific, unprecedented move.

416
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: Of course, that's just the normal oaths that you give

417
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: when you're subject to the orders of the commander in

418
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: chief in our system. Even MSNBC had to admit at

419
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: one point like this doesn't seem like dark or scary.

420
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were real worried about it before though. Matt

421
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: cover on X tweeted, who knew that principled opposition to

422
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: Trump would mean booing the Army's two hundred fiftieth birthday.

423
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: If you find yourself booing the Army's birthday, like you've

424
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: got some problems.

425
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just nice. All the guys in the

426
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: tanks were like smiling and waving at children. They at

427
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: one point, I did enjoy this, and I think this

428
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: is a Trump era flare that might not have existed otherwise.

429
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: When the tanks were coming down the street of different eras,

430
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: they would play songs from the different eras. So it

431
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: was like inter sandmen and I love some seventies rock.

432
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: It was very American. Wow, So just stop overreacting to everything. Man,

433
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: they came to.

434
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 2: Your lips, Mary Catherine, I really would enjoy that. How

435
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 2: did the New York Times handle Father's Day? Okay, speaking

436
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: of overreacting. Did they have a very positive message for

437
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: fathers on Father's Day?

438
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: You know, they had a daughter write a piece called

439
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: what my father gave Me?

440
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: He gave her good things?

441
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: Right, oh, contrerel It was a piece called what my

442
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: father gave Me, and it was all about how much

443
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: she dislikes her father and he's still with us. She

444
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: wrote a New York Times article about him, and I'm

445
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: just saying, look, parental relationships can be complicated, Okay, I

446
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: understand that. Just find one person in America who loves

447
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: their father or stepfather.

448
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: Or father in law. I love my father in law,

449
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: you know.

450
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: Just grandfather even would be a thing you could do.

451
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: But they found a person who's like, I want to

452
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: trash my still living father. Yeah, for all the ways

453
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: he fell short when I was a child. I want

454
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: to air that in the New York Times. And I

455
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: also want to note the emotionally immature ways in which

456
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: I have retaliated against him for these things, including she says,

457
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: there are some things I've taken from my dad, including

458
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: Fox News when I set up his cable.

459
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: Ma'am, you're not the samee one here.

460
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: Like, don't do that to your dad. Just just hey,

461
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: here's an idea. But your grown ass father watched the

462
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: channels he wants to watch exactly.

463
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 4: Wow.

464
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: Wow, it just yeah, it's like he didn't take her

465
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: to San Diego Chargers games even though he had season

466
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: tickets too. Of course that's shitty, but can I can I.

467
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: Also just say I have a feeling if he took

468
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: her to the Chargers games, she'd be writing a piece

469
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: about how he made me go to Chargers games.

470
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: True, true, because she's like, he gave me really nice

471
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: houses to grow up in, Like, oh my god, how

472
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: dare he that seems important? Right?

473
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

474
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: I just yeah, it's just it's so pathetic how the

475
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: New York Times is just anti men and the whole

476
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: the whole left really is just anti men. They really

477
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: don't get it. The Tennessee Titans, Happy Father's Day to

478
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: all the Titans, moms and fatherly figures. I mean, play Travis,

479
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: come get your team.

480
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 1: They can't even just say fathers like that's one of

481
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: the category.

482
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it can't be. It can't be fathers. Fathers

483
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: don't count.

484
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: Come on, I want to note. Gavin Newsom says, this

485
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: Father's Day, I'm thinking of the families torn apart by

486
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: Trump's cruel deportation policies. Innocent kids are paying the price

487
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: simply because their dads showed up for work, we're near

488
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: a home depot, or we're in the wrong place at

489
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: the wrong time. This cruelty must end. Okay, let's put

490
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: aside the fact checking of that particular tweet.

491
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: But like any other father rights right.

492
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Anyone out there, as I just all these holidays have

493
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: so much creep. Now, yeah, you have to make Father's

494
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: Day about people who aren't fathers as well, right, you

495
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: have to.

496
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: And I think Dad's right, and I think it's always

497
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: I think it's nice to be aware that people have

498
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: issues with their parents or have lost parents and all

499
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 4: that stuff, Like we can all acknowledge that that's part

500
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: of life.

501
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm in a family where someone might think it's

502
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: sensitive to say things to us on Father's Day, right, right, right,

503
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. But even for those who are,

504
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: let's not make Mother's Day or Father's Day overtaken by

505
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: the grief that others feel. Like. We can just make

506
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: it about the mothers and the fathers who are with us,

507
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: and the mothers and the fathers we've lost.

508
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: That we are honoring still, like exactly.

509
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: It's such a downer sometimes on social media when everyone's like,

510
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: just remember other people are sat right, that's right.

511
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: I know, yes, I'm fully aware, but that's not what the.

512
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: Day is about, because that's not what the day's about anyway.

513
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Thanks to the dad's and my family who we had

514
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: a great time with and.

515
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: In mine, we really are lucky to have some incredible men.

516
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: My husband, father in law, my brother is just a

517
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: great dad and uncle. I just you know, really really

518
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: good guys and We're lucky to have them.

519
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: Maybe someone could have found somebody to write a not

520
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: bad about them.

521
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been nice.

522
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: Next time we can shoot for it next year.

523
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: Sure, sure. Twenty twenty six, Well, thanks for joining us

524
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: on normally Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, and you can

525
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: subscribe anywhere you get your podcast. It's get in touch

526
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: with us at normallythepod at gmail dot com. Thanks for listening,

527
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: and when things get weird, act normally