1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the Reinvented twenty twelve Camri. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: It's ready. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know? From HowStuffWorks 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: dot Com? 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Cook. There's 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: Charles W. Chucker's brand that makes this stuff. 7 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 4: You should know. 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 5: I wonder what that sounds like to people who listen 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 5: to it at double speed. 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 6: You sound like your normal boys. 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, you know that. That was my impression of somebody. 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess go with Vincent Price. No, okay, Edgar Oliver. 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: It was a great Edgar Oliver. Terrible Vincent Price. Edgar Oliver. 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: He's a storyteller on the moth. Oh really yeah, and 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 4: he sounds exactly like that. You got to check stuff out. 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: He's awesome. 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 6: Is he a horror? Is he like? 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: No? 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 6: Any wrong with him? 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I mean he talks like that. But other 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: than he's he's an awesome dude. So that was my Oh, 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 4: it's pretty good. You go back and listen now you'll 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: be like, wow. So I was doing an Edgar Oliver 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: chuck because in t minus like four days. Yeah, it's 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 4: gonna be Halloween, one of our favorite days. And mind 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: blowingly enough. If you're listening to this on Halloween it's today. 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 6: Wow. 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that works. And last year we did something unusual, 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: so this year we're doing it again, which makes it 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: the usual. But it was popular. People liked it. We 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 4: read a great short story last year. 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, people actually called for it again and said, oh, 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 5: you're gonna do it this year. 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 6: I think some people might not have liked it, but 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 6: just skip it then. 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. We were like, does that mean we don't have 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: to study? Okay, let's do that exactly. Yeah, there's one 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: in the can that's guaranteed gonna be at least okay. Yes, 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: So this year, Charles W. Chuck Bryant selected the story 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: and it is by someone you may or may not 41 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: have heard of. He's a somewhat you know, well known 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: Writer's name is Edgar Allan Poe and he died in Baltimore, 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: I believe, in the eighteen forties. Sure, here's one of 44 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: the great first great American writers of the nineteenth century. 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: Slash drug addicts, big time drug addict, and I think 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: that comes through a lot in this. Yeah. But we've 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: selected a short story. Chuck selected a short story. It's 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 4: actually I gave. 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 6: You a selection. You made the final choice. 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you let me to You're like, which one 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: of these would you like? And then you basically put 52 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: this one in my hand. 53 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 5: No, actually, I was leaning toward the crazy dwarf that 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 5: kills the king. 55 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: What are we reading this one for? Because this one's creepy? Okay, 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 4: all right, I agreed. Well, do you want to tell 57 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: them the name of this one? 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 5: It's called Barnice and give you a slight setup just 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 5: so you know what's going on. There's a woman called 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 5: Baronice and a man, uh, and they are cousins and 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: they're married, and things go a little weird in the story. 62 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: Weirder than cousins being married. Yeah. 63 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: I don't want to give anything away, but I just 64 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 5: want you know it's it's old English. It's not Old English, 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 5: but it's older than it's Old American. 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. So before we lose any more listeners, let's get 67 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 4: to it. You want to cue the spooky music. 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, but we should also point out that at the 69 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 5: end of this episode we have a very special guest. 70 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: So let's not say who. If you listen on Tuesday, 71 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: you know. 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 5: But if you aren't into the reading, just go ahead 73 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 5: and skip forward to the special guest, and you'll get 74 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: some delight there. 75 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: Right, And if you do that, we apologize in advance. 76 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: Yes either way, all right, So now let's cue the 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: spooky music. 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 6: Okay, that's the tone. 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: Let's dim the lights, okay, and we now present to 80 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: you Edgar Allan poe'se Bevernice. 81 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 6: My Josh is a little quote at the beginning in. 82 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: Latin and in English. 83 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 5: I'll read the English. My companion said to me, if 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 5: I would visit the grave of my friend, I might 85 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 5: somewhat alleviate my. 86 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: Worries reasonable advice. 87 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 6: And here we go. 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 5: Misery is manifold. The wretchedness of earth is multiform, overreaching 89 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 5: the wide horizon as the rainbow its hues, or as 90 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: various as the hues of that arch, as distinct too, 91 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 5: yet as intimately blended, overreaching the wide horizon as the rainbow. 92 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 5: How is it that from beauty I have derived a 93 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 5: type of unloveliness, from the covenant of peace, a simile 94 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: of sorrow. But as in ethics, evil is a consequence 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 5: of good, So in fact, out of joy is sorrow born. 96 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 5: Either the memory of past bliss is the anguish of today, 97 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 5: or the agonies which have their origin, and the ecstasies 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: which might have been nice. 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 6: It sounded like improper English, but that's how we wrote it. 100 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: And it's not just today, it's to day with a 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: hyphen in between. 102 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 5: My baptismal name is Eugaeus. That of my family I 103 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 5: will not mention. Yet there are no towers in the 104 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 5: land more time honored than my gloomy, gray hereditary halls. 105 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 5: Our line has been called a race of visionaries, and 106 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 5: in many striking particulars in the character of the family mansion, 107 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: in the frescoes of the chief saloon, and the tapestries 108 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 5: of the dormitories, and the chiseling of some buttress in 109 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 5: the armory, but more especially in the gallery of antique paintings, 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: and the fashion of the library chamber, and lastly in 111 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: the very peculiar nature of. 112 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 6: The library's contents. 113 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 5: There is more than sufficient evidence to warrant the bloe. 114 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: The recollections of my earliest years are connected with that chamber, 115 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: and with its volumes, of which latter I will say 116 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: no more. Here died my mother here, and I was born. 117 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: But it is mere idleness to say that I had 118 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 4: not lived before that. The soul has no previous existence. 119 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 4: You deny it. Let us not argue the matter, convince myself. 120 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: I seek not to convince. There is, however, a remembrance 121 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 4: of aerial forms, of spiritual and meaning, eyes of sounds, 122 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: musical yet sad, A remembrance which will not be excluded, 123 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: a memory like a shadow, vague, variable, indefinite, unsteady, and 124 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: like a shadow too in the impossibility of my getting 125 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 4: rid of it, while the sunlight of my reason shall 126 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 4: exist in that chamber. I was born thus, awaking from 127 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: the long night of what seemed but was not nonentity, 128 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: at once into the very regions of fairyland, into a 129 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: palace of imagination, into the wild dominions of monastic thought 130 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 4: and erudition. Singular that I gazed around me with a 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: startled and ardent eye, that I loitered away my boyhood 132 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 4: and books, and dissipated my youth in reverie. But it 133 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: is singular that as the years rolled away and the 134 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: noon of manhood found me still in the mansion of 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: my fathers, it is wonderful what stagnation there fell upon 136 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: the springs of my life. Wonderful how total an inversion 137 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: took place in the character of my commonest thought. The 138 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: realities of the world affected me as visions, and as 139 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: visions only, while the wild ideas of the land of 140 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: dreams became in turn, not the material of my everyday existence, 141 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: but in very deed that existence utterly and solely in itself. 142 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 5: See he's getting a little caught up in his own 143 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 5: obsession of thoughts. 144 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: Right, he's a bookworm. Okay, he's bookish. 145 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: So the real world as it doesn't even matter to 146 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 5: him at this point. 147 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: That's what he thinks of the real world. 148 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 5: Onward, Bearnice and I were cousins, and we grew up 149 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 5: together in my paternal halls. Yet differently we grew I ill 150 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: of health and buried in gloom. She agile, graceful and 151 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 5: overflowing with energy. Hers the ramble on the hillside, mine 152 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 5: the studies of the cloister. I living within my own heart, 153 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: an addicted body and soul to the most intense and 154 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: painful meditation. She roaming carelessly through life, with no thought 155 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 5: of the shadows in her path or the silent flight 156 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 5: of the raven winged owers. Berenice, I call upon her name, 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 5: Berenice from the gray ruins of memory, A thousand tumultuous 158 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: recollections are startled at the sound. 159 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 6: Ah. 160 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 5: Vividly is her image before me now as in the 161 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: early days of her light heartedness and joy, Oh gorgeous 162 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 5: yet fantastic beauty, Oh sylph amid the shrubberies of Arnheim, 163 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: oh Naiad among its fountains. And then then all is 164 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 5: mystery and terror, a tale which should not be told. Disease, 165 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 5: a fatal disease, fell. 166 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 6: Like the simoon upon her frame. 167 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 5: And even while I gazed upon her, the spirit of 168 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 5: change swept over her, pervading her mind, her habits, and 169 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 5: her character, and in a manner the most subtle and terrible, 170 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 5: disturbing even the identity of her person Alas the destroyer 171 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 5: came and went. 172 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 6: And the victim where was she? 173 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 5: I knew her not, or knew her no longer as Berenice. 174 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 6: Now she got sick. 175 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 4: When I first read him saying Berenice Nice, I thought 176 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: of Kramer going, Pam, Pam, you remember that one? 177 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Spernice didn't doing so hot all of 178 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 5: a sudden. 179 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 4: No, it happened like that. Ye. Among the numerous train 180 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: of maladies superinduced by that fatal and primary one, which 181 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: affected a revolution of so horrible a kind, and the 182 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: moral and physical being of my cousin may be mentioned 183 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: as the most distressing and obstinate in its nature, a 184 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: species of epilepsy, not unfrequently terminating in trance itself, trance 185 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: very nearly resembling positive dissolution, and from which her manner 186 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: of recovery was in most instances startlingly abrupt. In the meantime, 187 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: my own disease, for I have been told that I 188 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: should call it by no other appellation. My own disease 189 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: then grew rapidly upon me, and assumed finally a monomaniac 190 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: character of a novel and extraordinary form, hourly and momently 191 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 4: gaining vigor, and at length obtaining over me the most 192 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: incomprehensible ascendency. This monomania, if I must so term it, 193 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: consisted in a morbid irritability of those properties of the 194 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 4: mind in metaphysical science termed the attentive. It is more 195 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: than probable that I am not understood, But I fear 196 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: indeed that it is in no matter possible to convey 197 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 4: to the mind of the merely general reader an adequate 198 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: idea of that nervous intensity of interest with which, in 199 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: my case, the powers of metaie not to speak, technically 200 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 4: busied and buried themselves in the contemplation of even the 201 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 4: most ordinary objects of the universe. 202 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: So now he's becoming obsessive about just things, anything transfixed 203 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 5: on things. 204 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: But like he can't even get across how obsessed. 205 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: He becomes monomania all right, to muse for long, unwearied hours, 206 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 5: with my attention riveted to some frivolous device on the 207 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 5: margin or in the topography of a book. To become 208 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 5: absorbed for the better part of a summer's day, and 209 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 5: a quaint shadow falling a slant upon the tapestry or 210 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 5: upon the door, To lose myself for an entire night, 211 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 5: and watching the steady flame of a lamp or the 212 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 5: embers of a fire, to dream away whole days of 213 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 5: the perfume of a flower. To repeat monotonously some common 214 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 5: word until the sound, by dint of frequent repetition, ceased 215 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 5: to convey any idea whatever to the mind. 216 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 6: Everyone does that. 217 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called day awesome. 218 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 5: To lose all sense of motion or physical existence by 219 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 5: means of absolute bodily quiescence, long and obstinately persevered in 220 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 5: such were a few of the most common and least 221 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 5: pernicious vagaries induced by a condition of the mental faculties, 222 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 5: not indeed altogether unparalleled, but certainly bidding defiance to anything 223 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 5: like analysis or explanation. 224 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 4: You did good. That was a tough one. Thanks. 225 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: He sounds like an opium head, you know he's like. 226 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm high as a kite right. 227 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 6: Now, I'm staring at a lamp for two days. 228 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: Yet let me not be misapprehended. This due earnest and 229 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: morbid attention thus excited by objects in their own nature, 230 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 4: frivolous must not be confounded in character with that ruminating 231 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 4: propensity common to all mankind, and more especially indulged him 232 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: by persons of ardent imagination. It was not, even as 233 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: might be at first supposed, an extreme condition or exaggeration 234 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: of such propensity, but primarily and essentially distinct and different. 235 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: In the one instance, the dreamer or enthusiast, being interested 236 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: by an object, usually not frivolous, imperceptibly loses sight of 237 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: this object in a wilderness of deductions and suggestions, issuing 238 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 4: therefrom until at the conclusion of a day dream often 239 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: replete with luxury, he finds the in sedimentum or first 240 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: cause of his musings entirely vanished and forgotten. In my case, 241 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: the primary object was invariably frivolous, although assuming through the 242 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: medium of my distempered vision a refracted and unreal importance, 243 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: few deductions, if any, were made, and those few perdinaciously 244 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: returning in upon the original object as a center. The 245 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 4: meditations were never pleasurable, and at the termination of the reverie, 246 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 4: the first cause, so far from being out of sight, 247 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: had attained that supernaturally exaggerated interest which was the prevailing 248 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 4: feature of the disease. In a word, the powers of mind, 249 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: more particularly exercised, were with me, as I have said before, 250 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: the attentive, and are with the daydreamer, the speculative anything thoughts, No, 251 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 4: he's just going on to say it was really serious. 252 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, they'd like to really describe things back then. Yeah, okay, 253 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 5: my books at this epoch, if they did not actually 254 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 5: serve to irritate the disorder partook, it will be perceived 255 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: largely in their imaginative and inconsequential nature of the characteristic 256 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 5: qualities of the disorder itself. 257 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 6: I will remember, among. 258 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 5: Others, the triestas of the noble Italian Colius Secundus curio, 259 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 5: the amplitudine biat de regni de Saint Austin's great work 260 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 5: The City of God and Trillium decarne Christi, in which 261 00:14:52,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 5: the paradoxical sentence mortus sde phileas credibo esquia s sepotus 262 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 5: resurreic exit certum esquia impossibilest occupied my undivided time for 263 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 5: many weeks of laborious and fruitless investigation. So he's getting 264 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: hung up on these phrases from the books. 265 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I am the Latin. 266 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: Thus it will appear that, shaken from its balance only 267 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 5: by trivial things, my reason bore resemblance to that ocean 268 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 5: crag spoken of by Ptolemy Hephistian, which, steadily resisting the 269 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 5: attacks of human violence and the fiercer fury of the 270 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 5: waters and the kinds, trembled only the touch of the 271 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 5: flower called Asphodel. And although to a careless thinker it 272 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 5: might appear a matter beyond doubt that the alteration produced 273 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 5: by our unhappy malady and the moral condition of Berenice 274 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 5: would afford me many objects for the exercise of that 275 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: intense and abnormal meditation whose nature I have been at 276 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: some trouble and explaining. Yet such was not in any 277 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 5: degree the case in the lucid intervals of my infirmity. 278 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 5: Her calamity indeed gave me pain, and taking deeply to 279 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 5: the heart that total wreck of her fair and gentle life, 280 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: I did not fall to ponder frequently and bitterly upon 281 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 5: the wonder working means by which so strange revolution had 282 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 5: been so suddenly brought to pass. But these reflections partook 283 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: not of the idiosyncrasy of my disease, and were such 284 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 5: as would have occurred under similar circumstances to the ordinary 285 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 5: mass of mankind, true to its own character. My disorder 286 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 5: reveled in less important, but more startling changes wrought in 287 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 5: the physical frame of Baronice, and the singular and most 288 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: appalling distortion of her personal identity during the brightest days 289 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 5: of her unparalleled beauty. Most surely I had never loved her, 290 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: and the strange anomaly of my existence. Feelings with me 291 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 5: had never been of the heart, and my passions always 292 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 5: were of the mind. Through the gray of the early morning, 293 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 5: among the trellish shadows of the forest at noonday, and 294 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 5: in the silence of my library at night, she had 295 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 5: flitted by my eyes, and I had seen her not 296 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: as a living and breathing Berenice, but as the baronice 297 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 5: of a dream. Not as a being of the earth earthy, 298 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 5: but as the abstraction of such a being, Not as 299 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 5: a thing to admire but to analyze, Not as an 300 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: object of love, but as the theme of the most 301 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 5: obtruse although desultory speculation. And now now I shuddered in 302 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 5: her presence, and grew pale at her approach, yet bitterly 303 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 5: lamenting her fallen and desolate condition, I called to mind 304 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 5: that she had loved me long, and in an evil moment, 305 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 5: I spoke to her of marriage. I'm getting oddly Madonna 306 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 5: esque here with my English. 307 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, does she speak strangely? Ah? 308 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 6: You know, she married guy Richie. 309 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 5: All of a sudden she started talking like a Madonna. 310 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, not like she was from Queen's or. 311 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not supposed to do that. You got to 312 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 4: remember who you are, you know, I agreed, and at 313 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 4: length the period of our nuptials was approaching, when, upon 314 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: an afternoon in the winter of the year, one of 315 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: those unseasonably warm, calm and misty days, which are the 316 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 4: nurse of the beautiful halcyon. I sat and sat as 317 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 4: I thought, alone in the inner apartment of my library, 318 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: but uplifting my eyes, I saw the baronice stood before me. 319 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: Was it my own excited imagination, or the misty influence 320 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 4: of the atmosphere, or the uncertain twilight of the chamber, 321 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: or the gray draperies which fell around her figure that 322 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: caused in it so vacillating an indistinct an outline. 323 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 6: Or was it all the opium? And as he likes 324 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 6: to have. 325 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: A lot of different ideas to choose from, sure, I 326 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: could not tell. She spoke no word, I not for 327 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 4: worlds could I have uttered a syllable. An icy chill 328 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 4: ran through my frame, A sense of insufferable anxiety oppressed me, 329 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: assuming curiosity pervaded my soul, and sinking back upon the chair, 330 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: I remained for some time, breathless and motionless, with my 331 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: eyes riveted upon her person alas its emaciation was excessive, 332 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: and not one vestige of the former being lurked in 333 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: any single line of the contour. My burning glances at 334 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: length fell upon the face, the forehead was high and 335 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 4: very pale and singularly placid, and the once jetty hair 336 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: fell partially over it and overshadowed the hollow temples with 337 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: innumerable ringlets, now of vivivid yellow and jarring discordantly in 338 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: their fantastic character. With the raining melancholy of the countenance, 339 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: the eyes were lifeless and lustreless and seemingly pupilss and 340 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 4: I shrank involuntarily from their glassy stare to the contemplation 341 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: of the thin and shrunken lips. They parted, and, in 342 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 4: a smile of peculiar meaning, the teeth of the changed 343 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: Berenics disclosed themselves slowly to my view, would to God 344 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: that I never beheld them, or that having done so, 345 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: I had died. Bear Nice is in bad shape here, 346 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 4: so's the guy. 347 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: The shutting of the door disturbed me, and looking up, 348 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 5: I found that my cousin had departed from the chamber, 349 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 5: but from the disordered chamber of my brain had not 350 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 5: alas departed, and would not be driven away the white 351 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 5: and ghastly spectrum of the teeth, not a speck on 352 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 5: their surface, not a shade on their enamel, not an 353 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 5: indenture in their edges, but what that period of her 354 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 5: smile had sufficed a brand in upon my memory. I 355 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 5: saw them now, even more unequivocally than I beheld them then. 356 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 6: The teeth. 357 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 5: The teeth, They were here and there and everywhere, invisibly 358 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 5: impalpably before me, long, narrow and excessively white, with the 359 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 5: pale lips writhing about them, as in the very moment 360 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: of their first terrible development. Then came the full fury 361 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 5: of my monomania, as ruggled in vain against his strange 362 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 5: and irresistible influence in the multiplied objects of the external world, 363 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 5: I had no thoughts but for the teeth. 364 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 6: For these I longed with a frenzied desire. All other 365 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 6: matters and all. 366 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 5: Different interests became absorbed in their single contemplation. They, they alone, 367 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 5: were present to the mental eye, and they, in their 368 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 5: sole individuality, became the essence of my mental life. I 369 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 5: held them in every light, I turned them into every attitude. 370 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 5: I surveyed their characteristics. I dwelt upon their peculiarities. I 371 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: pondered upon their confirmation. I mused upon the alteration in 372 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 5: their nature. I shuddered as I assigned to them an imagination, 373 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 5: a sensitive and sentient power and even when unassisted by 374 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 5: the lips, a capability of moral expression. 375 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 4: Boy, he's a losing it. 376 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 5: Of Madselle Salaer has been well said couetou cepa in 377 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 5: chien decentient, and of Beernice, I'm more serious believed quit. 378 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 6: Indien daisy ds. 379 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 5: And I believe that translated to something like the ideas 380 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 5: the ideas. All of his ideas were of the teeth, 381 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 5: something like that. 382 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: And he just had to say it in French, didn't he? 383 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: Wellat this is this isn't that good? So I'm gonna 384 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 4: make you I'm going to write in French. 385 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 5: If I went to a French speaker in the office 386 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 5: and they're like, dude, this is really like hard to translate. 387 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 5: So if anyone knows that, please send it. 388 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 4: Do you want to read it again? That part the line. 389 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: Sure quetu sepa ittien the sentiments getu said, Then itien 390 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 5: daisy days, daisy days, all right, Ah, here was the 391 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 5: idiotic thought that destroyed me easy days. 392 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 6: Ah. 393 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 5: Therefore it was that I coveted them so madly. I 394 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: felt that there possess could alone ever restore me to 395 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: peace in giving me back to reason. 396 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: So Chuck what's going on here? Like, there's teeth. Now 397 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 4: he's got teeth, and he's focused on the teeth. 398 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 5: Well, now the teeth are in her mouth. She is 399 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 5: disintegrating physically, except for her teeth, which remained perfect. Okay, 400 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: So now he is hyper focused and obsessed with her 401 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 5: teeth because they're so perfect. 402 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 4: I would be hyper focused. I'm running out of the 403 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 4: room at this point too, okay. And the evening closed 404 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: in upon me. Thus, and then the darkness came and 405 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: tarried and went, and the day again dawned, and the 406 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: mists of a second night were now gathering around. And 407 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: still I sat motionless in that solitary room, and still 408 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: I sat, buried in meditation, And still the phantasma of 409 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 4: the teeth maintained its terrible ascendancy, as with the most vivid, 410 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 4: hideous distinctness, It floated amid the changing lights and shadows 411 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: of the chamber length. There broke in upon my dreams 412 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: a cry of horror and dismay. And thereon too, after 413 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 4: a pause succeeded the sound of troubled voices intermingled with 414 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: many low moanings of sorrow or pain. I arose from 415 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: my seat, and, throwing open one of the doors of 416 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: the library, saw standing out in the antechamber a servant 417 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 4: maiden volunteers, who told me that Baronice was no more. 418 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: She had been seized with epilepsy in the early morning, 419 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: and now at the closing end of the night, the 420 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: grave was ready for its tenant, and all the preparations 421 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 4: for the burial were completed. 422 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 6: So Bernice is dead. 423 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I found myself sitting in the library, and again, 424 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: sitting there alone, it seemed that I had newly awakened 425 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 4: from a confused and exciting dream. I knew that it 426 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 4: was now midnight, and I was well aware that since 427 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 4: the setting of the sun Baronice had been interred. But 428 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 4: of that dreary period which intervened, I had no positive, 429 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: at least no definite comprehension. Yet its memory was replete 430 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: with horror. Horror more horrible from being vague, and terror 431 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: more terrible from ambiguity. It was a fearful page in 432 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: the record my existence, written all over with dim and 433 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: hideous and unintelligible recollections. I strived to decipher them, but 434 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: in vain, while ever and anon, like the spirit of 435 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 4: a departed sound, the shrill and piercing shriek of a 436 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: female voice seemed to be ringing in my ears. I 437 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 4: had done? Indeed, what was it? I asked myself the 438 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 4: question aloud, and the whispering echoes of the chamber answered me, 439 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 4: what was it? All right? 440 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: So he's awoken from a fever dream and he's like something. 441 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 5: I've done something here while I slept That ain't good? 442 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 443 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 6: What was it? 444 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 5: On the table beside me burned a land mp and 445 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 5: near it lay a little box that can't be good. 446 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: It was of no remarkable character, and I had seen 447 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 5: it frequently before, for it was the property of the 448 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: family physician. But how it came there upon my table? 449 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: And why did I shudder? And regarding it? These things 450 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: were in no manner to be accounted for. And my 451 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 5: eyes at length dropped to the open pages of a 452 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 5: book and to the sentence underscored therein. The words were 453 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 5: the singular but simple ones of the poet Eben Zayat. 454 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 5: My companion said to me, if I would visit the 455 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 5: grave of my friend, I might somewhat alleviate my worries. 456 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 6: Why, then, as. 457 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 5: I perused them, did the hairs of my head erect 458 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 5: themselves on end, and the blood of my body become 459 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 5: congealed within my veins. There came a light tap at 460 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 5: the library door, and as pale as the tenet of 461 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 5: the tomb, a menial entered upon tiptoe. His looks were 462 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 5: wild with terror, and he spoke to me in a 463 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 5: voice mulus husky and very low. What said he some 464 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 5: broken sentences I had heard. He told of a wild cry, 465 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 5: disturbing the silence of the night, of the gathering together 466 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 5: of the household, of a search in the direction of 467 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 5: the sound. And then his tones grew thrillingly distinct, as 468 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 5: he whispered me of a violated grave, of a disfigured body, 469 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 5: and shrouded, yet still breathing, still palpitating, still alive. 470 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: He pointed to garments. They were muddy and clotted with gore. 471 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: I spoke not, and he took me gently by the hand. 472 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 4: It was indented with the impressive human nails. He directed 473 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: my attention to some object against the wall. I looked 474 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: at it for some minutes. It was a spade with 475 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 4: a shriek. I bounded to the table and grasped the 476 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 4: box that lay upon it, but I could not force 477 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 4: it open, and in my tremor. It slipped from my 478 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: hands and fell heavily and burst into pieces. And from it, 479 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 4: with a rattling sound, there rolled out some instruments of 480 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 4: dental surgery, intermingled with thirty two small white and ivory 481 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: looking substances that were scattered to and fro about the floor. 482 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 6: The end. 483 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: Wow, I just got a little chill, actually. 484 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 6: And I knew the ending. 485 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: He liked his teeth. 486 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 6: Did he dig her up or was she still alive? 487 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. I was thrown off by the fact. 488 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 6: That those shrieking women. 489 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's still palpitating as it, were still alive. 490 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 5: I think he hallucinated the whole thing and that she 491 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 5: did not die and was buried. I think he went 492 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 5: into her chamber and removed her teeth while she was alive. 493 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: Or maybe he while he was in his little opium dream, 494 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 4: buried her alive, then decided, oh yeah the teeth, went back, 495 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: got him out of her mouth while she's still alive, 496 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 4: and took him back to the library. I think he 497 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: needs to lay off the dope, is what it comes 498 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: down to. Yeah, So happy Halloween. I hope everybody is 499 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: appropriately nervous now, right. 500 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you have ideas on royalty free readings 501 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 5: that we can do next year. 502 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we'll bring this up again, like in August 503 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: or something like that. Agreed, So stick around. We are 504 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: not going anywhere just yet. We have a special you 505 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: can almost call us a two parter. The second part 506 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: is a special guest. Right, We're not going to do 507 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: listener mail or anything. We're going to do this Happy 508 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: Halloween everybody. So since this is a Halloween episode, and since, 509 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 4: as you may remember from Tuesday, John Hodgman has been 510 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: hanging around the office this week. 511 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 5: That's I'm sleeping in a cubicle earlier. 512 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: It's weird. We I got locked out of my here again. 513 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: My so, Hodgman, how you doing? Was? 514 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 7: I don't get a I don't get like the chimes? 515 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: Well, well, I haven't finished the introduction yet. We're not 516 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: doing listener mail this week because it's special, it was, 517 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 4: this is a Halloween episode and because Hodgman's here, so 518 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: instead we're going to do stuff with John Hodgman. 519 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 6: That's right. 520 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 5: And the reason, well, the reason John's here is because 521 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 5: he decided to surprise us and he had a ticket 522 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: to the show. 523 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 6: Yep, we decided to honor that ticket. Yeah. 524 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 7: Look, I feel bad. I feel a little bad about 525 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 7: last week because I came in and interrupted Sarah's letter. 526 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 6: This week, whatever was, We took care of it. 527 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 7: Don't you know what I don't. I don't pay attention 528 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 7: to time anymore. I'm a deranged millionaire. 529 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: Okay. 530 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 6: I like Sarah. 531 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 7: I like the letters she writes. I like all the letters. 532 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 7: But I'm a listener too, you know. That's why I'm here. Yeah, 533 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 7: and what am I going to have my say? 534 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? 535 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 5: And no one ever comes in to do their listener 536 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 5: mail in person like you. 537 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 6: You bought a ticket to do. 538 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 7: So. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I have access. It's 539 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 7: time for me to have my say. Here's my listener mail. 540 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 7: All right, nice work, guys. 541 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. That's nice listener huh. Yeah, that 542 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: was Chuck's. 543 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 6: Well that was Poe los my mind. 544 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 7: You say it was porific, I say Poe. 545 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 6: No, I like it. 546 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 4: Drownd post. 547 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 7: Fine, Well you got of Like you know, guys, I 548 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 7: wrote this new book of complete World Knowledge called That 549 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 7: is All that's coming out. And this is the third 550 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 7: book of Complete World Knowledge. And in my previous books 551 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 7: of Complete world knowledge. I talked about everything, right, I 552 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 7: talked about how to tile kinds of knots. No, I 553 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 7: never did for some reason, I think I did. 554 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 4: That was so close. I almost said, like, Yeah. 555 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 7: I talked about Hobo's. I talked about Mollman. I talked 556 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 7: about the presidents of the United States. I talked about 557 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 7: the mottos and nicknames of all fifty one American states. 558 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 7: I talked about history. I talked about the future. But 559 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 7: there was one topic that I never took on before, 560 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 7: and that was sports. Yeah, because I am not a 561 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 7: sports fan. 562 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: See, I found that surprising. 563 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 6: Really. 564 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you and I co hosted at trivia then 565 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 5: it Max fun Con, and yeah, we did our own 566 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 5: little fun trivia. 567 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 6: Well'm Elijah won. Right. 568 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 5: I did some sports questions that you were not privy 569 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 5: to to humiliate me. You did some science fiction nerd 570 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 5: movie questions that I because I'm not into that. 571 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 7: You did jock questions to humiliate me, and I did 572 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 7: nerd questions to humiliate and it went great. It went great. 573 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 6: We're both humiliated, that's right. 574 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 7: And that is usually the sign of a good night. 575 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 6: Yes it is. 576 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 7: But here's the thing for this third book, because we 577 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 7: are reaching the end of human civilization December twenty one, twenty. 578 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 4: Twelve, at eleven eleven am. 579 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 7: Exactly, and it's and it's time for me to engage 580 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 7: in well, Like the dying person, I reach out to 581 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 7: that which I've previously spurned in life, like religion and sports. 582 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 7: So I decided to learn a lot about sports and 583 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 7: to write about sports in this new book. And one 584 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 7: of the things I learned, which I didn't know until now, 585 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 7: you guys probably know this, that the Baltimore Ravens is 586 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 7: named after the Edgar Allan Poe poem The Right. So 587 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 7: you didn't know that. I didn't know that. I knew that, 588 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 7: and now that makes more sense. I didn't realize why 589 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 7: they had Edgar Allen Poe as their mascot. Some dude 590 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 7: dressed up as like nineteenth century and no, he's got 591 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 7: one of those big heads on, like a big Edgar 592 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 7: Allen Poe head. 593 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 6: I was like, why is that? 594 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 7: And then I finally got it. Ed Ground Poe apparently 595 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 7: got runeously drunk in Baltimore, as he did in every 596 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 7: East Coast city for a period of time. They all, 597 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 7: for some reason claim him as their son. Well, in Philadelphia, 598 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 7: New York, Brooklyn, Baltimore, Providence, but only Baltimore had the 599 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 7: nerve to name their team after a famous quasi literary 600 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 7: kind of dumb dumb poem that the French really liked. 601 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 7: And they have this mascot, which is crazy. Now I 602 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 7: understand why they have that mascot. This dude dressed up 603 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 7: his egg ground Poe with a giant Edgar Allan Poe 604 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 7: head on top of him that's filled with brandy. 605 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 6: Now it makes sense. 606 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 5: And John Cusack, to bring in full circle, is playing 607 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 5: Poe in a movie I know, which is. 608 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 7: He's only the latest who wanted to play ed Ground Poe. 609 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 7: Of course, Sylvester Stallone was developing an edge Ground Poe 610 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 7: really biopic four years. 611 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 6: Four years. You didn't know that. 612 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 7: Foreigner was going to do the theme song. They wrote, 613 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 7: I have the tiger for that movie. Oh sorry, foreign first, 614 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 7: I apologize exactly survivor right, They wrote I have the 615 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 7: tiger for the edg Ground Poe movie, but when it 616 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 7: didn't get made, they used it for Rocky three instead 617 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 7: got sports and more sports. Punching is a sport, right Pugilism? 618 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 7: Oh no, I agree, that's the sweet science. That's the 619 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 7: that's the that's the intricate logical art of her doing 620 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 7: someone in the face exactly. 621 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 4: Wow, wow, hold on, you're leaving out a big element 622 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 4: trying to not get hurt in your own face. Right, 623 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 4: that's practically you're doing two things at once. 624 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's that's ballet. 625 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean? 626 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 7: That's that's an intricate dance. That's like ultimate fighting. I'm 627 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 7: guys down on the ground trying to knee each other 628 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 7: in the neck. It's it's acrobatic. 629 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 4: I see you at a boxing match, though, Hodgman, I 630 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 4: wasn't a boxing match. I've seen that, Yes, you were. 631 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 7: I was in a fake I was in a fake 632 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 7: boxing match. 633 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 4: Was that choreograph of that state that it looked a 634 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 4: lot like the directors like you to just go at 635 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 4: each other and we'll see what happened. 636 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 7: This was in an episode of Boards to Death. 637 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: Right with you? You box, Jason Schwartz. 638 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 7: I did, yeah, and uh, And I realized then that 639 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 7: it is an extremely physically taxing thing to do. I 640 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 7: don't I do not mean to run down boxers in 641 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 7: the least because first of all, they will kill me. 642 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 7: Second of all, what they do they are. They're are 643 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 7: extremely accomplished athletes. I have no problem with athletes, you understand, Sure, 644 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 7: I think they're incredibly skilled people whom I wish only 645 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 7: not to hurt me, do you know what I mean? 646 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 7: But they are artists in there in their own way. 647 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 7: And I don't even dislike sports per se. Like, there's 648 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 7: some sports that I occasionally will watch. I dig a 649 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 7: curling match from time to time. 650 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 6: Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, any. 651 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 7: Spot with a broom I like. It's it is the 652 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 7: presupposition in our culture that everyone must like sports, and 653 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 7: if you do not know what the sports teams are 654 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 7: or what they. 655 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 6: Do on the field, something is wrong with you. Then 656 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 6: you are abnormal. 657 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 4: In some way. 658 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 7: And I think that that's a little bit that presumes 659 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 7: too much. 660 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 6: Well, John, that's the where we live in. 661 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 7: But it's changing now. Baltimore got the Ravens in what 662 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 7: nineteen ninety six or seven or something like that. Okay, 663 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 7: so they name their team after a poem, right, was like, 664 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 7: no big deal, not a big deal, who cares? 665 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 6: Right? 666 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 7: This year we got some baseball what's the baseball player? 667 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 6: Who named is a bat? 668 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 7: Orchrist? 669 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 6: I did not that. 670 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's that it's in the news, someone will write 671 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 7: about it and send it in. 672 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 4: Okay, it was. 673 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 7: It was this April it was revealed the very popular 674 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 7: bass ball player named his bat Orchrist, after one of 675 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 7: the Elven forged swords in the Hobbit. 676 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 4: Huh that's pretty cool. 677 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 6: Yeah right? 678 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 7: And then guess what have you noticed this? 679 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: You know? 680 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 7: It's Nick Mangol, the center for the New York Jets. 681 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 682 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 7: Have you noticed, like he's not wearing a helmet anymore? 683 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 6: I have not noticed that. 684 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 7: It's surprising to me. He came out in one of 685 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 7: the games earlier this year. He was wearing a leather 686 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 7: top hat with like goggles on it. 687 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 6: Do you notice that? I did not know? What is 688 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 6: that on the field on the field why, I. 689 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 7: Don't know, but it's weird. And then and then another 690 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 7: time he came out and he was wearing a pith 691 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 7: helmet with with a jeweler's lens on it. That and 692 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 7: he came out in the he came out on the 693 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 7: field on a on a on a penny farthered bicycle. 694 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 4: What is going on? 695 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 7: It was a steam powered Penny farthing bicycle? 696 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 4: Wow? Which was it of his own design and manufacture? Yeah. 697 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 7: And then he went on a sports program, a radio 698 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 7: program much like this this radio right, Yeah, sure, it's 699 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 7: kind of and uh and he was and he was saying, 700 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 7: I'm really glad we won that game, and uh, I 701 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 7: think and they said, well, what do you think? How 702 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 7: do you how do you what to what do you 703 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 7: attribute your win? 704 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 6: And he said, I just took. 705 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 7: The lesson of Admiral acpart to heart and realized that 706 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 7: they were setting a trap. 707 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 6: Weird. 708 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 4: That is weird, very weird. What do you think is 709 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 4: going on there? 710 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 6: I think this is it? Guys, I think this is happening. 711 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 7: Is this the beginning the beginning of the nerd jock convergence? 712 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 7: See it all around us? 713 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 6: Wow? 714 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 7: I think Nick Mangled may be the one. Yeah, it's 715 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 7: the person who's going to join these two worlds together. Yeah, 716 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 7: he's doing steampunk cosplay, he's quoting Admiral Lackbar, He's riding 717 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 7: a Penny Farthing motorcycle, not just a steam powered Penny 718 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 7: Farthing motorcycle of his own design. And I recently, you 719 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 7: know how my my Zeppelin Hubris isn't in ruins, the 720 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 7: HC Hubris, the HC Hubris Audrin Zepplin's Hubris. Uh, but 721 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 7: I just got an offer on it. 722 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 4: Did you know that? 723 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 6: That weird? 724 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,959 Speaker 7: I mean it's still crashed, it's still I think parts 725 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 7: of it is still burning in Central Park. 726 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 6: This happened since Tuesday. 727 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I maybe you hear this person heard the podcast. 728 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 7: I don't know what it is, but if the offer 729 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 7: came in, it's a good offer too, from man Gold 730 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 7: Steampunk Industries. 731 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: It's gotta be the same one football Well yeah, see, 732 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 4: I think it might be him. Are you selling it 733 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 4: to him as is? 734 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 7: Well, I'm not putting that thing back together. It's on 735 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 7: fire and burned my hands. Yes, I hope it works. 736 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 6: Where is it over? I don't know. 737 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 7: Most of the top half of Central Park. 738 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 6: I mean it was big, it was big, most of 739 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 6: the top half. Yeah, I haven't been up there in 740 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 6: a while. 741 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 4: Good. 742 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 7: It crashed and burned probably two years. 743 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 4: Ago and still oh yeah, it's still burning. 744 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, well I should do something. 745 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 4: Well, John, let me ask you. I mean, that seems 746 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 4: like one of the great divisions in life in the 747 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 4: world that's been going on forever, is this division between 748 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 4: jockson nerds. It seems like it's a good thing. If 749 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 4: things come together, is it not? 750 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 6: I I don't know. I don't know. 751 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 7: I think it's I think, like all major c changes, 752 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 7: it's unnerving, do you know what I mean? 753 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 4: I think those of us I'm scared of things too. 754 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 7: I think those of us on the nerd side have 755 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 7: been defining ourselves by our marginalization for so long that 756 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 7: it may be hard for us to accept a world 757 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 7: where you know, that TV show Community did a whole 758 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 7: Dungeons and Dragons episode. Superhero movies are the only movies 759 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 7: that people make, now, do you know what I mean? 760 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 6: Like all of the. 761 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 7: Things, And now I think at least ten people in 762 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 7: the United States know who Doctor. 763 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 6: Who is now, do you know what I mean? 764 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 7: Comic Con is big, big business. And I think that 765 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 7: that all of these things that we used to hold 766 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 7: as badges and use to comfort ourselves in our marginalization 767 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 7: and culture are now being absorbed into, you know, the 768 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 7: monoculture as a whole. And there's no greater expression of 769 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 7: the monoculture than jock culture, which is the great leveling, 770 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 7: cross cultural, unifying thing that men and a lot of 771 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 7: women talk about unless they're a nerd like me. Right, 772 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 7: So when that's gone, I think that will bother nerds 773 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 7: very well. But I don't think the jocks give at all. 774 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 4: No and and jocks tend to get their way as 775 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 4: far as society goes, if they want something. If Mangole 776 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 4: wants to make steam, hey. 777 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 6: I like your steam pup culture. 778 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 4: Give me that, nerd. That's right, they take mine. 779 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 7: It's mine now, Hey, you're you're your your your steam 780 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 7: funk ironman armor that you made yourself. 781 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 6: That's mine. 782 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 7: Now drop it off at my locker. 783 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 6: Throw a Jets jersey on top of it. 784 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna put the Jets jersey on top of it. 785 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 7: It's going to be steampunk Ironman Jets. That's not what 786 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 7: the mc. Mangol does not talk like that at all. 787 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 7: He's a very sweet guy. 788 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 6: I met him. That's why I hope so. 789 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 7: In real life. In real life, Nick Mangold's Twitter avatar 790 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 7: is an illustration of him as an ewok. 791 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 6: Really. 792 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, So you may say that what I'm putting in 793 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 7: my book is crazy, but look around you, everybody, it's 794 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,439 Speaker 7: coming true. 795 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 4: Well, John, thank you for coming by with your baffling prediction. 796 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 7: You don't have to think it's very easy. I just 797 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 7: walked down the hallway from my safe room. 798 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 4: Are you going to stay here? Because the weekend's approaching. 799 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 7: I need someone to kick down the door of my 800 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 7: safe room because I fell asleep in that cubicle because 801 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 7: I went out and I accidentally armed the system. Okay, 802 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 7: So if you have an intern or someone who can 803 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 7: go in there, they will. 804 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 6: Be gassed, Jerry, Yeah, a foot of lead. 805 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 4: Okay, and she can. 806 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, but there are booth but there are booby traps. 807 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 7: There will be gassed, There will be darts, there will 808 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 7: be snakes, there will be a giant rolling boulder. 809 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 6: Just good. 810 00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 7: If we get that, then I can get back in 811 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 7: and then I'll be back again. 812 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 5: Jerry deals with us on a day to day basis. 813 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 5: She can handle any boulders or poisoned darts. 814 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 6: You're right, Yeah, here's to you, Jerry. 815 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 4: We'll send Jerry in. Yeah. And then. 816 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 5: So John's book is that is all and it is 817 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 5: coming out November first, and you can pre order it 818 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 5: right now using the internet, using the internet, and I 819 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 5: hope that you will at a variety of Internet sites. 820 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 4: Oh you really, just plug the heck out of that, chuck. 821 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 6: Well, you know, I want the guy to sell a 822 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 6: book or two. 823 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 7: I'm just happy to be here as an listener, as 824 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 7: a deranged millionaire. I'm happy to come in here and 825 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 7: take over your listener mail, and as a resident, as 826 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 7: a resident of past up Works closet. 827 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 4: Well to those of you who made it all the 828 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 4: way through this podcast and you're with us right now. 829 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 4: I want to say on behalf of myself, Chuck and 830 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 4: mister John Hodgman, Happy Halloween. Be safe, Please don't get 831 00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 4: hit by a car. 832 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 7: Dress your children in skeleton costumes and send them out 833 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 7: into the street. 834 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 2: At the end, be sure to check out our new 835 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: video podcast, Stuff from the Future. 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