1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Jeffu wars, Did you don't Jack black Warris? Did you 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps th Jano says it 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: actually Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Al Right, here 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: we go on a Tuesday mornings c I a a 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: bank field with the sun rising, guys, adjusted to the 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: time change, and I wake up in a dark house. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Still I'm still trying to adjust my seat. Are you 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: comfortable now? I'm not. He always is really for out. 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: At the beginning of the show. No one sees it 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: because they showed the bridge, but he's always moving in. 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: No one sees it because I evoked a sense of calm. Yeah, 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: that's it. Welcome Did Jacks Drive Time? Me and these 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: two here? I have to separate you guys wait too 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: much time together lately. Yeah. Right, So let's start off 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: with a statement and then we'll get into big things. 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: The reports are, and we say reports are because the 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars have and cannot make any indication of what they 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: have done. But the reports are they have agreed to 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: terms with Nick Foles, which is no surprise considering we've 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: been talking about that name since January. But the reports 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: are it's a deal in excess and the numbers are 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: what they are, but eighty eight million dollars with a 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: chance with incentives to hit two million dollars. Let's just 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: get right into this with big things, because we'll steal it. 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: We'll steal big thing in one away, which is this 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: conversation Big thing One is that this is a pretty 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: big deal bringing Folds, And if the reports are true, 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: isn't the search of consistency for the coaching staff? And 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: that seems to be what Foals is. There was a 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: story guys in the ticket office a few days ago 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are calling in about their 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: season ticket nules in they won't renew their tickets unless 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: Folds is here. If this seems to be true, you 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: can call back say Folds is your guy. It brings 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: excitement to Jacksonville. Everyone is talking about Jacksonville this morning. 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. You know. There's that old saying 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL that the backup quarterback is the most 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: he's the favorite of most people. And in this case, 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: the Eagle's backup appears to be a favorite. And I 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: can echo the sentiment. I spoke to the Downtown Rotary 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: Club yesterday and every question that I got was Nick Foles, 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: nick Foles, Nickpoles and nick Foles. So the reality of 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: it is, these people are excited about this move. Um, 44 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: you're generally excitable. God, you've seen kind of them this morning. 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: Um there's upside. There's certainly downside with this one. But 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: it's a move the Jaguars felt they had to make. 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: If indeed, we'd say again they made it. The reports 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: are that they have. It's it's a tricky thing. I 49 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: almost get the idea, and my inbox tends to be 50 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: full of people who have really picked everything apart already. 51 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: So a lot of people who are emailing me about 52 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: it are very upset because I think they've dug a 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: little too deep into the what ifs and the numbers 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: and and and they're mad because they overpaid. And I 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: get that from a micro point of view. From a 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: macro point of view, the big issue is maybe you 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: were paid him by a few million dollars here. I 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I wasn't in the the negotiations. I 59 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: don't know what it was actually gonna take to get 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: nick Fole. I know what everybody thought it was gonna take, 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: but I know it is actually gonna take to get him. Um, 62 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: does he make you better? If if he makes you 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: better and makes you a playoff team, then this is 64 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: a bargain so to me. If he doesn't, then it's 65 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: an awful deal. So to me, the question of where 66 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: he makes you better? And everyone looks, you know, at 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: a macro, but look at the micro. How much better 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: does he make a young receiver like d D. Westbrook? 69 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: He's a much more precise pastor than Blake Bortles was. Uh, 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: he's a guy. How much better does he make the 71 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: running game because of the threat of the past, because 72 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: a consistent performer, Because if you listen to the national 73 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: media and you talked to a lot of them too, 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: consistency is what this guy is supposed to bring you, 75 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: a consistent presence at quarterback. How much better does he 76 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: make the defense with his ability to sustain drives and 77 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: convert on third down? Better? Yeah? I mean because if 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: it's not, then again, this is an awful move if 79 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: you're not in the playoffs, because this is what it's 80 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: all about. But uh, it's also a necessary move and 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's awful in terms of Uh, if 82 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: if you make the playoffs, you should have done it. 83 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: But that's going to be the barometer they feel like 84 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: they're a contending team. If if they didn't feel like 85 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: they were a containing team cable going to the playoffs, 86 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: then you wouldn't do this. You would wait and you 87 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: would take a quarterback in the first round. So this 88 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: is a when now when lunch move they made its 89 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: exactly that's on her, which put just hitching the wagon. 90 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm gonna have to separate you to um. 91 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: The decision was made that they were going forward, not backward. 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: In other words, they were not going to take a 93 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: step and go with the rookie quarterback. They were not 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: going to let Calais and Marcel and some of these 95 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: higher price guys go on defense and work towards one. 96 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: They were going to put this thing back, put the 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: wheels back on it, hopefully stay healthy, add some players, 98 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: and go forward, which is what we knew Tom Coughlin 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: was gonna do. Doug Moron would want to do that. 100 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: That's what coaches want. They think about now, gms have 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: to think about the future. This move was made when 102 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: they decided to keep those guys and keep them together. 103 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: So you're right, if they don't make the playoffs this year. 104 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: This seems like a terrible decision. Last year people were 105 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: saying that the Blake Bartle's decision was a terrible decision. 106 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: There's risk to it, there's plenty of risk, but it's 107 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: a necessary risk if they're doing if they're trying to 108 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: do what they wanted. It's a necessary risk if if 109 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: you want to win now, it's also a risk. Mean, 110 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: we watched all these tapes on fold and you see 111 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: that he's clutch in the playoffs. He plays best in 112 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But you got to get there, and that's 113 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: everyone's obstacle is how is he going to play in 114 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: the regular season to even gets you to that point? Well, 115 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: remember he was a starter in two had a big 116 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: year with Chip Kelly Um and then became a free agent, 117 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: didn't do much in St. Louis, was thinking about leaving football, 118 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: went to Kansas City, didn't do much there. Um signed 119 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: on with the Eagles as a backup, making four million 120 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: bucks a year, and now all of a sudden, is 121 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: a paid day. The last two years he has made 122 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: a total of sixteen million dollars. Right, heavily incentivized deal. 123 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Uh and now he's going for roughly two. You just 124 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: equal it out, which brings me to an important point, 125 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: which is, I'm sorry, which is still the middle of 126 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: the pack for quarterbacks. It's it's not like this guy 127 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: got Aaron Ryder's money, cousins money. And I saw a 128 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: good point on Twitter, which it's rare, but I did 129 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: see a good point made on Twitter. And if I 130 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: get who made it that In terms of if you 131 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: compare this contract to last year's numbers, it's huge. If 132 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: you fitted in with percentage of what the cap is, 133 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: it's probably a little more in line with what Blake 134 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: actually got. I mean, I'm saying it's that low, but 135 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: it's still the cap has gone way way up. You're 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: seeing again monopoly money numbers and free agencies. So I 137 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: don't know that it's as astronomical as the initial shock 138 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: of seeing it makes it seems. I interrupted you. Well, no, 139 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna, says. The only people who have seen 140 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: the contract would be the agent, the quarterback, and and 141 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: obviously they've called well and Tom Calf's gonna guarantee of 142 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: falsong because he had it on as all, and absolutely 143 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: that's a dance. Mine would be more ridiculous than that 144 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: with those kind of numbers. But I tend to look 145 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: at free agent deals through a three year lens. Right, 146 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: how much guaranteed money goes in the first three years 147 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: of the deal. And if the number fifty million is accurate, 148 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: is this a three year, fifty million dollar deal. If 149 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: it is, then it's more in line with with what 150 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: a Boordle's got. Um If it's not. If it's two 151 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: years and forty six, which is the number that I 152 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: think we were talking about before, which you have seen, 153 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, then it's it's a really pricey deal compared 154 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: to Blake. It's a move up. I want to see 155 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: how it's structured because that's gonna tell us how these 156 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: guys are playing when Blake goes, and and that's been 157 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: reported as well, and I think all of us expected 158 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: when full of science he'll go. They'll have thirty three 159 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: million dollars in cap room. You figure roughly ten of 160 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: that has to go to signing your draft class. So 161 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: now you have twenty three million dollars in cap room. 162 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: You need some money to function, right, six seven million 163 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: bucks for guys who get injured and practice squad and 164 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So they're going to be very tight. 165 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: People are gonna say, well, what's he gonna throw too? 166 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Now they don't have the money and toys gonna he's 167 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna throw it to what they believe are going to 168 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: be improved wide receivers, and they're gonna throw the tight 169 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: ends in the draft. Okay, well there's that's the plan 170 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: at least. If you're thinking, what else do the Jaguars 171 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: bring in, the answer is not much because there is 172 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: no room now. Depending on what they could restructure a 173 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: player or two, they could create some room, but there's 174 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: not a lot out there, and there's not a lot 175 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: of players, um that you can restruct to create a 176 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: ton of cap room this year. You don't want to 177 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: do that. It looks like I could see a scenario 178 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: where full obviously Folds is the big free agent signing, 179 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: but I could see a scenario where the rest of 180 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: the offense in in these holes we're talking about. Are 181 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: draft right side of the offensive line in the first 182 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: three rounds, draft offensive line in the first three rounds, 183 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: meaning to draft tight end in the first three rounds, 184 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: and your backup running back, your one edition is a veteran, 185 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: very very very low priced older veteran. You keepen here 186 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: about Adrian Peterson. He didn't make very much in Washington 187 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: last year. A guy of that age and experience level 188 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: would make sense in the room with for net Uh. 189 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: But I could see very very mid level to even 190 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: low level free agent running back. Let's reset, because we're 191 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: running right through all of our big things, checking all 192 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: the boxes. Thing too is making room at four year, 193 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: eight million dollar deal with a hundred and two million 194 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: in incentives, with the million guaranteed that had to come 195 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: from somewhere. Those were those cuts on Friday from those 196 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: five players we saw. We believe that boardles is to 197 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: be cut like it's reported when full signs. So yes, 198 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: you made room, you made room for fulls. But like 199 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: we talked about, there isn't much room left. No, there's not. 200 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: And so I was looking at it through the spot track, 201 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: and you can see right there that you're the Jaguars 202 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: with about twenty eight point three. That doesn't count like 203 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: Boardles leaving. That gives him the thirty two thirty three 204 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: roughly that we were just talking about. Ten out for 205 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: the rookies gives you twenty three. You figure Nick is 206 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: getting somewhere between eighteen and twenty two million, which leaves 207 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: you the room that you need to be able to 208 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: function through the course of the year. So there really 209 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: is no money to go out and sign. Now. That 210 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: brings us to a point, and I have been on 211 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: the record forever saying this, UM, don't push money out. 212 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: People who have followed the Jaguars for a long time, 213 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: remember when that was the Jaguars standard operating procedure. Convert salary, designing, bonus, 214 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: amor tyser push it out into future years and then 215 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: worry about those consequences at some later date. And the 216 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: only way you can do that, By the way, let 217 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: me just finish the start. Calais Campbell and a J 218 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: boy give you between fifteen and twenty million dollars of 219 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: conversion from salary to signing, bonus and amortization. You can 220 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: create more cap room if you want. UM. I got 221 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of emails this time of year from people 222 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: who remember that, uh, and they should. It was a 223 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: it was a disastrous time for the franchise, and a 224 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: lot of the emails start off with a what's Tom 225 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: Coughlan doing. He's putting us in the same kind of 226 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: cat misery that he did in two thousand. Uh. This 227 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: is gonna haunt us for years. That's a fair fear, 228 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: because what happened in two thousand, two thousand one, that 229 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: era haunted them for years and years. That only happens 230 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: if you push it out. If you don't push it out, 231 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: which most teams now don't push it out. The Jaguars 232 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: have made these contracts in recent years. They were designed 233 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: with a day like Friday in mind to ensure that 234 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: you wouldn't push it out, to ensure that you could 235 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: get out of them. The only way it haunts you 236 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: for a decade for years that people are talking about 237 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: is if you push it out. If if you make 238 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: the decisions you made on Friday, then it's a quick However, 239 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: the reason they were able to write those kinds of 240 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: deals was because they had the cap room to absorb 241 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: a big hit. In year one, they took on a 242 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: lot of that signing bonus that used to be pro 243 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: rated and pressed out. You know, they took a big 244 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: bite of the apple with Malik in the first year. 245 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: So but now against the cap you can't afford to 246 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: do it. Last year when they signed Andrew Norwell, they 247 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: took three million dollars and put it out in each 248 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: of the five years of his contracts. So they took 249 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: fifteen million and pushed it into the future. Well, if 250 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: they had signed it two or three years earlier, they 251 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: would have taken all of that bite in that given year, 252 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: because then you don't have to worry about the future years. 253 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: I think the perception that guy like Norwell is he's 254 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a safer Okay, we could 255 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: see this guy being but he's the first guy that 256 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: this that Dave Coldwell has done that with because they 257 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: had the cat flexibility over the last couple of years 258 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: to not have to push the money out. And that's 259 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: why you're right, Folds. His contract be fascinating to say 260 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: how long it affects them for see, I think it's 261 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: got to be at least three years. I mean he's 262 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: thirty years old. You don't have it. I said this earlier. 263 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: It's not like your Sonning and he's not a quarterback, 264 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: but Terrell Suggs, I mean he's a sixteen year guy. 265 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: You can't. You're not doing that with this guy. Sixteen 266 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: You guys you know they're here for a year. This 267 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: is a guy you're thinking could be here for three 268 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: or four years. You hope that he's good enough that 269 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: for three or four years he's a guy that you 270 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: can count better. And yeah, this is um I'm curious, Brian, 271 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: you've been around again. I missed ten years, so I 272 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: don't have every impact moment. I I would say Calais 273 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: is the closest thing to this signing and this Dorset 274 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: because it's quarterback. There's nothing like this. At the time 275 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: they signed Calais, they didn't know they were getting an 276 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: All Pro. They thought they were getting a good football player. 277 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: They hoped he'd be a Pro Bowl anyone in the 278 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: quarterback so it's a different story. So this is the 279 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: biggest free agent signing in franchise history right there. It 280 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: isn't even close. I mean, the only thing I can 281 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: remember creating this much buzz was when they traded third 282 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: and fifth round picks in for Mark Brunel, and at 283 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: that point no one knew Mark. Mark was the third 284 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: quarterback behind bred Farvan Tidette Mark in Green Bay. This 285 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: is the biggest single signing in franchise history. It's interesting 286 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: what quarterback means. We all know what quarterback means, but Folds, 287 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: if you look at the lists, probably isn't the number 288 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: one free agent available, number quarterback for agent available probably 289 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: and the number one free Asian available Malik if you remember, 290 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: was the he was the consensus number one free agent available. 291 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: But it's quarterbacks. So it's bigger, dramatically bigger. And add 292 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: end that you're getting a guy who is known for 293 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Philly Special and the Super Bowl m VP and hoisting 294 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: that trophy. This there, it's not close. This is the 295 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: biggest single one day signing in franchise history, which brings 296 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: us to a very critical point in Big three. Yes, 297 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: he's absolutely a househole name at this point, so much 298 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: so that my mother even knew who he was, who 299 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: never watches football. Roses. On top of it, Big thing 300 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: three is the draft. Now that you reportedly have holes 301 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: in the building, you need to address the lack of 302 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: weapons to make this guy successful, one of them being 303 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: you want to protect that guy that you're not paying 304 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: two million dollars a year for lack of weapons. I 305 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: mean going and drafting maybe DK Metcalf the wide receiver, 306 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: getting tight ends offensive line. It's just an option, John. 307 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Big picture, you now must hit on your draft picks. 308 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: You have to draft because they play on rookie contracts. 309 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: At fixed numbers that are inigible. You have to hit 310 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: on the picks. The pressure is now ratcheted up. And 311 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: keep in mind you bring up dk Metcalf rookie receivers 312 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: is John has pointed out, it takes him a couple 313 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: of years. Right. You have to go back to Odell 314 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. Who had ninety one catches and yards and 315 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns as a rookie, to find an impact rookie receiver, right, 316 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: and he's rare tight ends? Gosh, I mean you have 317 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: to go way way back to find a guy that. 318 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean. I get a Dallas Goddard made an impact 319 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: last year and he was a second round pick, but 320 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: first round picks at tight end, the history is not 321 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: good in terms of first year and I guess John, 322 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: that's my big point with this draft is you're not 323 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: drafting for one year. You're drafting these guys looking at 324 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: your future. But the thing is when you bring in 325 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: Nick Foles tight against the cap with not a ton 326 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: of weapons on this side, now everyone's looking at guys 327 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: that you need to bring in to have a first 328 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: year impact. I think the best chance of predicting the 329 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: draft correctly for this team is to predict offensive line 330 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: in the first round, tight end in the second roundly, 331 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: and then Uh, what I'm curious about is what they 332 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: do at tight end. I think they have to bring 333 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: into to get better, and there will be tight ends 334 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: in the second and third round can help. Do you 335 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: bring in two in the draft? Do you you know 336 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: which would really be? Uh? You know you talk about 337 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: all in on a position, or do you go after 338 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: a Mercedes Lewis level guy. I'm not saying Mercedes comes back, 339 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: but a a older veteran at that spot. Their in 340 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: position where they can't do anything they want and that's 341 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: the first time they've been bucks. Do you have that 342 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: right well for for a level guy like that, I 343 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: think you could make room for one at at the three. 344 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: You know you can push out a little bit without 345 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: getting again, I know you have ninety nine scar or uh, 346 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: you're gonna have some dead money every year when the 347 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: cap is million, you're gonna have a little bit. If 348 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: you have five percent of your cap and dead money, 349 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: you're a pretty good spot. You just can't do with 350 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: all twenty two guys like they were doing at that point. 351 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Keep in mind they've got sixteen and a half million 352 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: and dead money this year for Blake, So that's really 353 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: tightening up what they can do. Um, I would be 354 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: surprised if it's not all offense in the first three 355 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: rounds with offensive line first, and I think it's gonna 356 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: be too offensive lineman in a tight end in the 357 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: first three I'm with you. I just want to set 358 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: expectations because people now are going to expect that you're 359 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: going to bring in guys who are going to perform 360 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: at a high level immediately. But that's not going to 361 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: happen exactly. And I'll use a great example in the 362 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: Patriots took Rob Gronkowski in the second round and Aaron 363 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: Hernandez in the in the fourth round, and by those 364 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: two players were a dominant combination that looked like it 365 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: might be a trend. Teams followed it was. It was 366 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: that unusual. It took two years with Tom Brady as 367 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback and Bill Belichick is the coach for those 368 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: guys to not that they didn't have moments, because they did, 369 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: but by you're like, watch out for what they're doing 370 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: with the tight ends. So if you bring in two 371 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: tight ends, hey, I think that's a great move. It's 372 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: a position that's gotten more importance in the NFL in 373 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: recent years. However, it's a move for one based on 374 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: history and it doesn't seem so crucial, especially after combine 375 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: talk to go tight end at seven because we've heard 376 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: that this is one of the best tight end classes 377 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: that they've seen in years. So to go and make 378 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: that seventh round pick on that when you are seventh 379 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: pick overall, right, Well, basically what we're talking about is 380 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: you have to have an eye on the future at 381 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: all times. But this franchise is all in on right now. 382 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: We'll see how that one. You don't draft or follow 383 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: the draft expecting these guys depeat in their first year. 384 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: That happens at running back, uh, and that's about the 385 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: only position where it happens. Corner sometimes as well, But 386 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: the positions we're talking about, it doesn't happen. Well, there's 387 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: a lot of excitement of Jacksonville obviously a quarterback right 388 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. M v P reportedly will stick with it. 389 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: Reportedly because the Jaguars have said nothing they can even 390 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: though we're in the legal tampering window, they aren't saying anything. 391 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: The earliest you'll hear anything is four o'clock tomorrow. 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I mean, 422 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: everybody is in on the Twitter twitter spheres. That was 423 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: I was alarmed by that as well, but I like it. Well, 424 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: it's a good word. Don't be alarmed. No one's going 425 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: to get injured. Um, you know what I'm saying, though, 426 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's all attention on this free agent 427 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: stuff and nothing is even final. But you just see 428 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: this player is getting that, this player is getting that, 429 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: that player is getting miss uh and nothing's even official 430 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: until tomorrow. Yeah, It's been said a million times. They 431 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: do a magnificent job of keeping on it themselves in 432 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: the news and the news cycle, to the point where Honestly, 433 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: the off season is extended far longer than it truly 434 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: needs to be, till the third week in June. You're 435 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: coming up now on a on a on a four 436 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: or what a five week period before the draft, which 437 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: is genius on their part because everybody r in the 438 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: mock draft. But you could do it much much quicker um, 439 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: but they won't. It seems like this year compared to 440 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: last year, it's growing every year where so much hype 441 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: is on the millions and millions of dollars. How much 442 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: are they getting paid. It's not how much of an 443 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: impact they're going to make on the team they're going 444 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: to but all about the money. Well, and it's a 445 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: great point. Drag wars fans have not had to know 446 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: much about the salary cap the last five or six years. 447 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: Better brush up on it because for the next few years, 448 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: the cap is going to determine a lot of the 449 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: things that they do, and if you want, you're never 450 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: going to be an expert at it. But if you 451 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: understand the nuances of it and how contracts are structured, 452 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: it will make it easier if were going to understand 453 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 1: the moves that they're making. Well, here's the thing too. Um. 454 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: I think because of the uh, the Paul that the 455 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: stuff that happened in the early two thousands cast that, 456 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: and then because of all the room that they had 457 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: from two thousand thirteen two thousand fifteen, there's a perception, 458 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: and I get questions about it that they're in cap 459 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: hell now right now, they're playing with about the average 460 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: right now, right They're back to normal now they were. 461 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been so long some people don't remember 462 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: the or two thousands. They were an outlier in the 463 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: early two thousands, they had completely mismanaged it to the 464 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: point where it was rare, and then they were also 465 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: an outlier in two thousand twelve and two thousand and 466 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: thirteen when they basically stripped everything down to where you 467 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: had so much cap room. Well, are ever going to 468 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: operate like they did in two thousand and fifteen and 469 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: sixteen with just everything to spend? This is the norm. 470 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: This is what most teams go through. It's why every 471 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: year you see all these teams releasing guys in March. 472 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: It's got to the point where those Arch releases they're 473 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: perceived as teams admitting mistakes more often than not. Now 474 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: they're just teams doing what they planned it right. It's 475 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: worth pointing out that if the Jaguars had hit on 476 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbertt or Blake Bordles, they wouldn't have had that 477 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: much cap room in fifteen sixteen, right, And they haven't 478 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: had to pay a quarterback um, which brings another point. 479 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: Now you've got that, which is about the average, and 480 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback at some point in the near future 481 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: is important because having a quarterback who's playing at a 482 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: moderately high level on a rookie deal is the best 483 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: way to run a salary cap. But the big thing 484 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: we've talked about, and we've talked about it without saying it, 485 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: uh succinctly necessarily you mentioned earlier they have to draft well, 486 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: have to draft very well. That's true of every NFL team. 487 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: There is no conceivable way to sustain success signing players 488 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: in the way that the Jaguars have signed them for 489 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: the last three or four years. They know it's not 490 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 1: the model. They said it's not the model when they 491 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: did it. They believed they had to get back to 492 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: a competitive level of talent by doing free agency, but 493 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: they always knew that that's not gonna sustain unless we 494 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: support it. The foundation has to be drafting well as 495 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: we go along. Eventually the free agents fall off and 496 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: then you're and then you're depending on your draft picks 497 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: going forward. Had they drafted well enough so far, we 498 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: don't know yet. I would say it doesn't quite look 499 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: like they have enough, but that'll be determined over the 500 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: last couple of years, over the next couple years. Look, 501 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: two years ago, the New Orleans Saints had a knockout draft, 502 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: right They got the corner from Ohio State in the 503 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: first round, and he really cemented the defense. And on 504 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: the offensive side, Alvin Kamara came you know, late second, 505 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: early third, I forget exactly where, and helped the offense 506 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: come to life and they made a playoff run. Last year, 507 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: the Colts to the exact same thing. They had a 508 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: tremendous draft quint Nelson, Darius leonard Um and up of 509 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: other guys that they're really excited about, and it helped 510 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: get them on some solid footing and got them a 511 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: playoff run. So you've got to have one of those 512 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: kinds of drafts, especially when you my opinion, we're about 513 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: to talk about this, you lack enough on offense to 514 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: make you go whoa Nick Foles is going to need 515 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: some help, So let's go that direction. We're going to 516 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: talk about nick Foles is great. It's a great situation 517 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: to have a quarterback. But and you're gonna lead us off, Yes, 518 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: the big button, the big butts. He's gonna love the 519 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: fact that you said big butts. He comes up Bunny seven. 520 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: Nick Foles is great, but he's not Drew Brees and 521 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: he's not Tom Brady. He's going to need running help. 522 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: You look at who he had with the Eagles during 523 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl run to throw to Nelson Aghil or Alshon, 524 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: Jeffrey zach Ertz. You don't have that here in Jacksonville. 525 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: A lot is still depending on the success of Leonard 526 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: for nut Can he stay healthy, can he run aggressive? 527 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: Can he play like the fourth overall pick that they 528 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: want him to play in Right now? I don't trust 529 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: him with that. I don't think we all trust him 530 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: with that because he hasn't shown us that yet. Know 531 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: that this is a guy who was set off to 532 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: the side for the moment because of the quarterback and 533 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: the emphasis on the passing game and talking tight ends 534 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: in the draft. But the reality of it is is 535 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: that this guy here is as important as Fuls this year. 536 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: There's all sorts of questions too with does he fit? 537 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: What Folds is good at um, Folds is very good 538 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: at rp O, very good out of the shotgun. That 539 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: hasn't been Leonard's thing. Uh, how well does he fit? 540 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: It's gonna be up to de Filipo to mesh that 541 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: and to use him. Um Like Garrett Blunt when the 542 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: Eagles went to the Super Bowl, I think it was 543 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: it was seventeen, a big, powerful runner, but they also 544 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: had other types of running backs around that. Uh. If 545 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: if they keep for Net for next year, which I'm 546 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: convinced now they will, there's always draft date trades you 547 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: never know about that. That remains a possibility. It's going 548 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: to be fascinating to see how he meshes in with 549 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: what they're going to like to do with Folds. Also 550 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: fascinating to see how Folds is going to mention in 551 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: with what they do with for Net. What's most important there. 552 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: There's weapons, but there's not really a blueprint to use them. 553 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: They have to make up their own blueprint. They have 554 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: to add a running back. I think in the draft 555 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: this year. I thought they did last year, because just 556 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: his history would suggest that the style of running you 557 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: weren't going to have him for every game, and of 558 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: course we all know that was the main storyline of 559 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: the season. You've got to go get back and probably 560 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: bring another one or two in as undrafted rookie free agents. 561 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: You've got to go find another Corey Grant. Yeah, and uh, 562 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it will. I don't think the next 563 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Corey Grant will be Corey Grant. Whoever? Is I just 564 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: a guy who could come out and have an impact. 565 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: But but you need that sort of right now. They don't. 566 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like they have that speed guy. Your 567 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: folds really great at throwing to the backs out of 568 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: the backfield too well. For that's better than people thought 569 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: he was going to be at that. Is that what 570 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: is going to be his bread and butter? I don't know. 571 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: So there are pieces that have to be added. Um, 572 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: running back in those in those top three that we 573 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: were talking about, top four rounds makes sense because you 574 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: can get high impact third fourth round out of running back. 575 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm next. Uh, Nick Foles is great, but I don't 576 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: think the receiving corps is nearly ready to play at 577 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: a high level. This guy right here exemplifies it all. 578 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: You talk to different guys Keenan and and and players, 579 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: and he was really coming on the practice field, and 580 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: then the quad injury set him back six weeks and 581 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: basically took away the second half of his season. He 582 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: wasn't the impact player that we thought he was going 583 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: to be. Um a guy with the first round grade, 584 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: absolutely Pro Bowl kind of measurables. You know, six four, 585 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: the long arms, the big hands, the great speed, um 586 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: and we saw flashes of what he's capable of athletically 587 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: on special teams. He's got to take a big jump, 588 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: and there are guys who last year, in their second season, 589 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: took big jumps. So it's possible that your second round 590 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: pick from seen takes a big jump this year. But 591 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: alongside him you have one guy who last year you 592 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: could count on, indeed, Westbrook, you have Marquis Lee. And 593 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: I saw Marquise to three weeks ago. He's walking straight, 594 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: he's walking fast, he looks good. That's not playing football. 595 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that you can say. And this is 596 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: the guy that only practiced on Thursdays, maybe Fridays at 597 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: the second half of seventeen. So now you've got a 598 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: guy coming back from a major knee injury. He's only 599 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: going to practice one day a week. I believe in 600 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: Markis maybe he can do that, but it's not as 601 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: if you can go okay, Marky's checked done, finished right, 602 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: and then and then and then Keeling Cole who looked 603 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: like a player on the rise coming out of his 604 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: rookie year, and even the first month of last year 605 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: before he went right down the tubes, where was he? 606 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't a factor in a game the rest of 607 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: the way. In fact, he was a negative factor in 608 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: at least two games that I remember, where he was 609 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 1: dropping passes and and killing drives. So he had one 610 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: great year as a rookie, very good year, and one 611 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: very bad year. So he's somewhere in between. So tell 612 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: me how you don't address the wide receiver corps in 613 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: the draft, but you can't address everything we've already talked about. Um. Yeah, Well, 614 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: I think if they get it, it'll it'll be in 615 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: a low enough round where it's a non factor as 616 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: a rookie because I just don't see them being able 617 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: to strafe again. Their hope is and this is really 618 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: a year I never talked about trading back before a draft, 619 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: because history tells me that unless a team is wanting 620 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: to come up and get a quarterback, it's not as 621 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: easy as you know. You know, you can't just go 622 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: to the draft tree and trade back, you know, or 623 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: or the trade tree. They would I think they would 624 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: love to trade back six spots in the first round 625 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: and pick up an extra second or third round pick, 626 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: whatever the number or the round would be, so they 627 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: could get another way. These guys you're talking about um, 628 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: But no team is just gonna volunteer to help him 629 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: out of the goodness of their heart. At some point, 630 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: when you are out of cap space and you're in 631 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: a situation the Jaguars in, you must trust your judgment 632 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: and you must have guys developed from within. That's what 633 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: they have to do a receiver. There's no guarantee. But 634 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: they can't just they don't have the money to just 635 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: sort of keep throwing free agent money at their problem. 636 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: My thing is this, it's your rely on ifs if 637 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: d J. Chark is ready to take that step. Probability 638 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: is that he is. But if if Marquise Lee is healthy, 639 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: he told me, I'll be ready for Opening Day. But 640 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: but there's an if, right, if heeling Cole is able 641 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: to find where he was the second after that, if 642 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: if if, I mean you wouldn't plan your family budget 643 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: on well if if if hey, let's go right, you'd 644 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: have a contingency plan. You need a lot of things 645 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: to go right. Maybe it will, Maybe Fools elevates their 646 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: game the better for what reportedly the Jaguars you're paying him. 647 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: I see this receiving corpse of something that has to 648 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: be addressed, even if you only get, even if you 649 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: only get a small contribution from them in your one 650 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: because remember Falls deal is not a one year deal. 651 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: It's not a twenty nineteen deal. You're you're banking on 652 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: this for twenty one probably too. You're gonna need weapons 653 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: for years to come. And it was interesting the response 654 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: at least on social media from the receivers of the 655 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: Jaguars having out was D J. Chart and D Westbrook 656 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: all excited that Falls was coming. We know how good 657 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: Foals is with the go routes bombing it down the field, 658 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs. We know the speed chart has 659 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: especially on special teams, but we've never really seen that 660 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: go route ability from Chart just yet. Maybe they're fine. 661 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find I think on Sunday April you're gonna 662 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: be a disappointed man. Well, we'll find out. And yeah, 663 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: and as far as receivers, that the thing is that 664 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: this team, I've always been the best available player. Guy, 665 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: take the best available player, because when don't you need 666 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: the best player on the board. But this team, after 667 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: signing Nick Foles, has become a needs based team. Now 668 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: maybe best player available a need will match up with 669 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: it offensive tackle at seven or a tight end at 670 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: thirty five. Maybe it feels like they're fortunate on that 671 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: front in the draft because and getting to the next point, 672 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: offensive line, you like that, Uh, there's some sort of 673 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: graphic needs to go up at this point. Folds is great, 674 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: but offensive line needs to get better. Um. I think 675 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: that I am directing the show, Joe, thank you very much. Um. 676 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: I think they will go offensive line in the top ten. Uh. 677 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: It feels to me like a year and it doesn't 678 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: always work this way where the draft lines up with 679 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: what they need around Folds. I don't think that means 680 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: that these guys are going to come in and be 681 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers immediately. I don't expect that from rookies. Ever, 682 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: but John Taylor, right tackle from Florida. It seems to fit, 683 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: seems to fit. There are so many great defensive alignment 684 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: and quarterbacks as predictor to get pushed up that you're 685 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: going to have if not your pick of offensive linemen, 686 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: pick of enough offensive aligneman that you you should feel safe, 687 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: relatively safe at that spot there. And then you also 688 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: happen to have a year where there's enough tight ends 689 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: where you won't necessarily cry in your beer if you 690 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: if you have to pass on t J. Hockens hock 691 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: and go a different direction with that. So I think 692 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: it lines up for them how much immediate impact they 693 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: will get at that we'll see again. Wouldn't surprise me 694 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: if they go ahead and take two offensive linemen in 695 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: the first four rounds to help that area as opposed 696 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: to taking the receiver that you said desperately want, Well, 697 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: I think they need it. Yeah, and and and if 698 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: they've become if they've become a need based team this year, 699 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: I think they are. I think it might marry up 700 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: like you said, offensive line, tight end, offensive line or receiver. 701 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: They have two third round picks, so maybe offensive line 702 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: tight end, tight end receiver who knows maybe they touch 703 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: a receiver at all. I don't want to do that, 704 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: but maybe they don't. Well, you can see scenario there 705 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: where offensive line, tight end second, offensive line third, and 706 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: wide receiver third with running back forth. Uh, running back 707 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: forth is not an absurdly low spot to expect production 708 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: out of that position. And again that's all based on 709 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: how do we line up these four or five picks 710 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: to get the most out of their rookie year. What 711 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: worries you is if you're thinking that way, you're not 712 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: necessary thinking are we getting the best you have to be? Yeah, 713 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: you got to be looking at and I told me 714 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: they have to be looking at wide receiver. Well yeah, 715 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: but again I got an awful lot from a draft. 716 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: But I but I cautioned that by saying that it's 717 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: the draft is not just about nineteen, it's about twenty one, 718 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: and you've got to be looking for weapons for him, 719 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: not just this year, but in future years. Yeah. I 720 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: just wonder where you're where realistically you're going to get 721 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 1: help a wide receiver quickly because I don't think there's 722 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: a top ten guy. I don't think DK metcalf is 723 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: a guy who comes in and makes a huge mediate impact. 724 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: He's arguably the best receiver. Uh beyond that, if you 725 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: don't have special as you alluded to earlier, I don't 726 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: think you're gonna get impact as a rookie anyway. So 727 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry that now. But I want more talent. Remember, 728 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: and don't forget Antonio Brown, who was just shipped off 729 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: with the one of the highest deals that he's the 730 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: highest paid receiver for the moment in the NFL. It 731 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: was a sixth round pick six and he started his 732 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: career returning kicks. So you know, there are guys who 733 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: can impact you in some way. I just want to 734 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: see them grow the talent pool. And I don't care whether, 735 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know whether a guy because he's drafted 736 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: in the fourth round cannot come in and make a 737 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: couple of plays. You just you just need more talent. 738 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: I think needs more talented receiver. All Right, we'll take 739 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: a break, comeback and look at the ozone snap shot 740 00:38:51,520 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: plus Ashlyns still ahead. When you here, think Duval Motor Company, 741 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 1: a proud partner of the Jacksonville Chadwars. Since nineteen sixteen, 742 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: Duval Motor Company has proudly served northeast Florida, offering the 743 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: latest products and services with hometown hospitality. 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This mail bag, I'm sure, hey, before we 773 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: do that. Um, congratulations to Malie Jackson. Uh. He was 774 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: one of the good guys. When he was one of 775 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: the best guys, one of the best, one of the 776 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: very very best guys. Sorry to see him go, just 777 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: like Carlos Hyde, one of the good guys. Yeah. Ah, 778 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: Malik though, was tremendous. He always was. He was good 779 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: when when they were good, he was good when they 780 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: were not good. He was still good well and he 781 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: defined I mean, Malik should be remembered too. For a 782 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: couple of reasons. A two thousand. He got here in sixteen, right, 783 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: not an easy year for a guy who had never 784 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: experienced anything in the NFL, but winning and Super Bowl 785 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: a lot of eyes on him. I have seen free 786 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,439 Speaker 1: agents with big expectations, and he played okay that year, 787 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: but there was no way for him to live up 788 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: to the contract in the eyes of the fans. You 789 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: see a lot of guys wilt in that situation. You 790 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of guys ducking through the bathroom area 791 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: to get away from the media. Uh, ducking into the 792 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: place where the media can't go. He never did that, 793 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: and he learned how to deal with it during that year. 794 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: Um was as much of a leader and tried as 795 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: hard on those fronts as you possibly can to speak 796 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: for the team and to keep things as positive as 797 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 1: he could. Uh, you're right, one of the good guys. 798 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: And furthermore, I'm not sure if Kalais boy a Church 799 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: happened if Malik hadn't signed the year before. When Malik signed, 800 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: it shocked people that the best free agent the class 801 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: came to Jacksonville. Rightly or wrongly. There was a perception 802 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: that wouldn't happen Malik did give the franchise some credibility 803 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: at the time that it needed it um and now 804 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: you're not really surprised when it folds, even for the 805 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 1: money signs with Jacksonville, one of the top free agents. 806 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: You weren't surprised when Boy did. You were surprise when 807 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: Norwell did it. Malik and he didn't do to have 808 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: the goodness of his heart. He got paid, but but 809 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: it still was a moment for the team where some 810 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: perception change, maybe folds changes it. I don't know if 811 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: if he signs here and we get the great press 812 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: conference on Thursday, but my favorite all time press conference 813 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: was Malik's when he said, hey, look, they only guaranteed 814 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: forty two million of the ninety I want it all. Hey, 815 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: it's pro football, It's about the money. I appreciated the candor. 816 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: He was here for the money, and he was. He 817 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: was the kind of guy that you say is a 818 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: true pro. He's here for the money, but he never 819 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: acted beyond saying that. He never acted like a diva. 820 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: He always wanted to try to earn it. And again, 821 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: there were a lot of moments where a lot of 822 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: guys duck and duck the responsibility Malik never did never 823 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: did proa. Now onto the ozone. Do we have to 824 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 1: play the theme music again? Please know not the song again? Jeez? 825 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: Sam from Matt from Orlando, Folks, specular thing about Nick 826 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: Foles being the next big thing and Jack's are blowing 827 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 1: of smoke. He flamed down in Philly, flamed out in Casey, 828 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: flamed out in St. Louis folds an excellent, if not 829 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: the goat of backup quarterbacks. To expect become to Jack's 830 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: and lead us to the super Bowl is wishful thinking. Wait, 831 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: this is last week, so just play back my answer 832 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: from last week. Go ahead and read the read the 833 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: ones that we got a new one. Sam from Orlando, 834 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: it seems like everyone wants to go all offense in 835 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: the drafted free agency. I asked them to look at 836 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: the Jep Tart at corner, safety and linebacker. It's scary. 837 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: We need talent in depth everywhere. Well this seems and 838 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: Brian you can speak to this too. Uh, Everybody, when 839 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: you're a fan of a team and an ardent follower 840 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: of a team, you tend to get very myopic on 841 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: that team. And the depth is terrible. Our fourth cornerback 842 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: isn't going to come in and be as good as 843 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: Jay Ramsey. Well, no team has that kind of depth. 844 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: So a depth in the NFL is a little bit 845 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: of a myth. Uh, if you've got it, you don't 846 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: have it for very long because free agency doesn't allow it. 847 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: Most teams don't have it. I get questions all the time, 848 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: our offensive line depth is terrible. Well, go find me 849 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: an offensive line in the NFL that's deep, and I'll 850 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: show you one that probably isn't as deep as you think, 851 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: and that isn't going to be deep the next year 852 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: because Jeremy Parnell is going to go sign with somebody 853 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: else when you come as a free agent. So, um, yes, 854 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: they need talent. Uh, they need to draft. Well, but 855 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's particularly a crisis that is 856 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: solo to the Jaguars. Well, here's a great example of depth. Uh, 857 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: if you have a position group, one position group on 858 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: your roster where you have three or four guys, you're deep. Um, 859 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: if you have too, I mean you're ridiculously wealthy. Right. 860 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: I think they are kind of deep at corners so right, 861 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: and and defensive line. But last year they thought they 862 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: were deep at running back, and they had versatility. You 863 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: had Leonard for Net and t J Yelden and Corey 864 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: Grant and you thought, man, this team has a wealth 865 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: of richest running back because you have three guys that 866 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: can do different things. Well right, Uh, when that obviously 867 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: hurt and Corey Grant hurt in Kansas City and then 868 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: you're left to trade for Carlos Hyde, who good riddance 869 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: is now gone. And you had, uh, David Williams who 870 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: you brought in from the Denver Broncos, and t J 871 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: yelled in and it was just it was a mess, 872 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: and you started the season feeling like you were deep. 873 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it goes away in an instant, absolutely, and 874 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: by the way, Mollie Jackson, yeah right, or or the 875 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: catch cat cap catches up to you. You had a 876 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: ridiculously wealthy defensive line. But you have to trade the 877 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: Fowler because you know you're not going to keep him, 878 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: and you have to release Malik because you know you 879 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: can't keep him in restructure Marcel. So a lot of 880 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: the depth now is dependent on whether Taven Brian can 881 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: step in and replace Malik Jackson. Malik was once a 882 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: fifth round pick, Brian a first round pick. Okay, well, 883 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean you should we'll see. Okay, let's go all 884 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: the way to Mexico. Ready, John, I'm very happy with 885 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: the recent cuts, especially the Barnell cut. He stuck. It 886 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: really was time to move on from him. Yeah, and 887 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: way to put it straight. I disagree. And this again 888 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: is one where people watching a team get locked in 889 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: on a guy making a few mistakes. Uh yeah, part 890 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: when I gave up some plays. He wasn't an elite 891 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: right tackle. Well, if there was a speed rusher over there, right, 892 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: he was gonna struggle. That was never his forte And 893 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: you you probably described twenty five starting right tackles in 894 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: the NFL just now. If you you had better be 895 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: able to win a he didn't stink. You had better 896 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: be able to win in the NFL with guys on 897 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: your offensive line of the quality of a J Can 898 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: and Jerry Parnell and everybody's anxious to get rid of him, 899 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: and and Partnell's gone. I'm assuming a J will to 900 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: You're not going to start five Pro bowlers on your 901 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: offensive line. Those guys were fine starters. Um, they were 902 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: an elite starter. Sure, you'd liked upgrade as soon as 903 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 1: you upgrade those though you're gonna be paying those guys 904 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 1: so much that you can't pay the other guy. You 905 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: can pay about two or three offensive linemen of the 906 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: elite you need to be able to get by, get 907 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: by with guys like Parnell and Camp. You'd like to 908 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 1: have Parnell back in one sense, because he was better 909 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: than just serviceable, I get it. I mean structurally from 910 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: a strategic standpoint, you needed to help him with the 911 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: tight end. And and Marcedes left and all of a 912 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: sudden he was exposed when speed rushers came over to 913 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: that side. And and I mean he kind of looked 914 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: like the tin man at one point there. He was 915 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 1: so put together with braces his knees and his elbows, 916 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: and he struggled with some of the injuries along that 917 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: that front. But he was he was good enough that 918 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: you could win with him. And and what made him 919 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: better was he was six million dollars, which is ridiculously 920 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: cheap for a better than average right back. Problem is 921 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: you were up against the cap and he was a 922 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: straight cash savings. There was no dead money at all, 923 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: and it became time. You've had him for four years, 924 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: I know. But but he's a guy that if you 925 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: weren't up against the cap a six million dollar right tackle, 926 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: you probably keep right. But but you have to be 927 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: able to move on. That's the spot where you have 928 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: to be able to draft. You have to be able 929 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: to plug it in. Uh. And here's something may surprise people. 930 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: A J Cann'll get paid. Oh yeah, if we're talking 931 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: about that side of the four year starter, he's a 932 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: four year starter. He's probably top what forty guards in 933 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. He's a tough guy. He played fort with 934 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: a hamstring all your last paid. Well, I don't. I 935 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: don't doubt that at all. And but let's go back 936 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: to the Jags offensive line. Let's just say, for arguments sake, 937 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: they draft you on Taylor will richardson, their fourth round 938 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: pick a year ago, was thought to be a guy 939 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: who could play guard. You couldn't need him step and 940 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,240 Speaker 1: play guard. Yeah, I mean that. I don't think counting 941 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 1: on him to start. I think they've got to get 942 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,959 Speaker 1: one more guy exactly. But but he should be able 943 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: to compete in training camp and push for that job. Yeah. 944 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: If he can't, it's a problem. Fourth round pick you 945 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: need to play. All right, Let's go to Mike from Atlanta, 946 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: Georgia to wrap it up. Aside from quarterback, what position 947 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: do you see the Jaguar spending the most on in 948 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: free agency? Well, you know, if they do, then I 949 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: think it's either offensive line or tight end. At a 950 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: lower level. Um, I think what's going to be fascinating 951 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: in the next few days weeks is probably days. Um 952 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: what do they do with their own offensive linemen who 953 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 1: are free? That includes Shatley, uh, Flowers, Wells, and I'm 954 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: missing one Josh Walker. You know, if none of those 955 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: guys returned, you're talking about some heavy lifting to get 956 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: done somewhere. I don't know what they're process is gonna be. 957 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: I know they would like to get with them back, 958 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: whether or not they'll be able to afford to get 959 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: some of them back all of a sudden, as much 960 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: as those guys aren't your front line guys, if you 961 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: don't have them, then then all of a sudden, your 962 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: depth it really does become an issue. I would again, 963 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,760 Speaker 1: that's why I'm so interested to see how they structured 964 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: Nick Foles deal so that on Thursday they still have 965 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: the flexibility. You gotta have some and you gotta have 966 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: someone reserved for the season, so that they can go 967 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: and get a couple of guys. Because whereas depth might 968 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: not be a problem in a lot of places because 969 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: no teams have it, those guys have all been contributors, 970 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: especially last year with those injuries along the front. You 971 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,919 Speaker 1: hate to let those guys that you've developed just walk. Yeah. 972 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm curious on Wells what happens to him because if 973 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 1: he had been able to play out last season, uh, 974 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: playing as well as he was at left tackle, he 975 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: would have gotten big money on free agency. His injuries, 976 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: he's never been able to help. Yeah, so do they 977 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: trust him as a swing tackle? Does somebody else? When 978 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: as a swing tackle, he's a guy that's fascinating for 979 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: his sake. I wish you'd be able to say healthy 980 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: last year. All right, let's take a break. We'll come back. 981 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: Ashland asks will wrap up our show this week. 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And as we have 1005 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: said all along, the reports are that the Jaguars have 1006 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: reached an agreement with Nick Foles. They have said nothing. 1007 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: They cannot until tomorrow at four o'clock, so stay tuned 1008 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: for further information. Man. We'll wrap it up with as always, 1009 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: Ashley asks, all right, John, please focus on the game. 1010 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:21,439 Speaker 1: I think I think you might have news. All right there, 1011 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,800 Speaker 1: never mind Sean Gibson, Yeah, is that true? Chafter just 1012 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: tweeted it out a minute ago. Sean Gibson to the 1013 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: Texans who are replacing Tyrone Mack. Yeah, good for him, 1014 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: and I always like to get I didn't want to, Okay, 1015 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 1: go ahead, breaking news, all right. I don't know if 1016 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: you guys saw the tweets, but we would have them 1017 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: on this show. Jalen Ramsey and Leonard Fournett reacting to 1018 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 1: the reported Fulls deal. Jalen Ramsey eyes bag, securing them bag. 1019 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: We've heard him say that multiple times, Leonard, a lot 1020 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 1: of money getting tossed around. I see. The question is 1021 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: do Jalen Ramsey and Leonard for Nett have a solid 1022 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 1: argument that they should be talking about securing the bat. 1023 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: I knew you'd like this one, John. They don't have 1024 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: to be grouped together. If one doesn't the other one doesn't, 1025 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: that's cool. I mean, yeah, twenty. Absolutely, Um, although you 1026 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: know he doesn't have the leverage that he thinks that 1027 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: he does because and he's a smart guy, he knows this. Um. 1028 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 1: The Jaggers have the fifth year option on him and 1029 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: the franchise tag um and as much as he wants 1030 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: a deal this year, they don't have the money to 1031 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: give him a deal this year. They just don't. So yes, 1032 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: pay twenty as soon as you can afford to pay him. 1033 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, Yeah, what are we tweeting for? I mean, 1034 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: and I'm assuming that's somewhere inside Leonard By now understands 1035 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: he has to earn that. Still that based on what 1036 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 1: he's done so far, I don't think they'll be a 1037 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: big contract. There's absolutely an incredible amount of potential to 1038 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 1: get the big contract. It's all out in front of him. 1039 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 1: He hasn't blown that yet. Twenties deserves it that question. 1040 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 1: As you said, I don't think it's going to get 1041 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 1: to the franchise tag out. I think it's I think 1042 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: my guess is next off season figuring out Jalen even 1043 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: at the end of this season, figuring that out, how 1044 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: to maneuver that is going to become the priority, and 1045 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 1: they'll do everything they can not to make that a 1046 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: tension thing. But twenties seven, No, not yet anything from 1047 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 1: unique yesterday, because he's the other guy that after this 1048 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: year they're going to have to address. I'm sure it 1049 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: was something of like strife for greatness type of deal, 1050 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: never calling on anyone out. But he's gonna have a 1051 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder now if he didn't before, he'll 1052 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,839 Speaker 1: have it now. That's scoff that John did about twenty seven. 1053 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 1: When I read that, I was like, exactly, come on, 1054 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: man with him. They've got the option. They two more 1055 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: years on the base and the option and the franchise. 1056 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a size either the details just 1057 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: performance on the future. He's got to work to do 1058 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: before he's I think I would hope that he gets 1059 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 1: that better. He didn't feel like last year he did 1060 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: at some point he's got to get that or that 1061 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 1: if he doesn't, he has the wrong agent, because someone 1062 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: should be spelling it out for him daily. Alright, final, 1063 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: Ashlan asks wrapped the show. If Fools is here like 1064 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: he reportedly is going to be, who is going to 1065 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: be Fool's bff in the locker room? Who's this guy 1066 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: his lunch buddy? On the weekends hanging out. I have 1067 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: some ideas, but I'm not quite sure. I think Calais 1068 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 1: is going to be a good one. The leadership qualities. 1069 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: They'll definitely get along. There could be some curveballs though. Max. Yeah, 1070 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna like Max a lot. Well, Jalen's 1071 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: his guy. He can't have both of them. No. I meant, look, 1072 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: Max has a lot of love to share, and I 1073 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: think that Max can find room in his heart to 1074 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: welcome Nick Foles to town and spend just as much 1075 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: time with his camera on the quarterback as he does 1076 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: the cornerback. I think Max understands it's a quarterbacks games. 1077 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: You're so selfish. Speaking of love, there is a lot 1078 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: of self love over there. I have to pay all 1079 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: my friends, So I just figure at some point self 1080 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: loathing over there, so I'll someday throw much and we'll 1081 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: be best friends. That's what John saying. Now, I mean, 1082 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: in all seriousness, I I everything you hear about Folds 1083 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: is that he commanded an enormous amount of respect by 1084 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: the way he carried himself, by his actions during the 1085 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: playoff runs, and how he was able as a back 1086 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: up quarterback to naturally assume a leadership role. You would 1087 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 1: think that is a big reason why the Jaguars trusted 1088 00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: the payment and investment in him. Uh, that I'm not 1089 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: sure I needed. That'll happen naturally, but I don't think 1090 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: fitting in will be an issue. If everything you've heard 1091 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: about it, he'll fit in a different way than Blake. 1092 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's a different kind of leadership. Everybody loved Blake, 1093 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: that would being around him. I think got Folds will 1094 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 1: command respect any more traditional quarterback sense. Well, and just 1095 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: from the number of former players that he played with 1096 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: who we're tweeting yesterday in support of Fools and congratulating him. Uh, 1097 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: your point was well taken. Do you need to go 1098 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: how to strap my team? You're out next week? Uh? Yes, 1099 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 1: more room for you by the dentist appointing, more room 1100 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: for you. Fascinating. Thank you for telling that'll do it 1101 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: for our show. Thanks to Joe and Max and everyone 1102 00:59:48,080 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 1: we're watching, and we'll see you next week. M two