1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest developments in the spat 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: between two of the most powerful people in the world. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: There are signs this morning the rift between President Donald 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: Trump and billionaire Elon Musk maybe easing. Bloomberg's John Tucker 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: begins our team coverage this morning. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 4: John, Good morning, and good morning. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 5: Nathan. Politico is reporting White House aides have scheduled a 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 5: call with Musk today to try and cool things off. 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 5: President Trump with the reporters yesterday, have this to say us. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 5: The Musk birl bands headed for the rocks. 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 6: I'm very disappointed in Elon. I've helped Elon a lot. 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 6: Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 6: if we will anymore. I was surprised because you were here. 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 6: Everybody in this room practically was here, as we had 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 6: a wonderful SENDO. 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: He said wonderful things about me. 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 6: You couldn't have nicer, said the pest snake. He's warned 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 6: the hat Trump was right about everything. 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 5: Or The relationship started to rupture when Musk called Trump's 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 5: signature tax and spending bill a disgusting abomination, and things 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 5: really got ugly yesterday. Musk called Trump an ingrate and 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 5: suggested the president would have never won the election without 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 5: his help. A Trump, in turn, proposed cutting off Musk's 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 5: lucrative government contracts. Go ahead, make my day. Musk post 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 5: it on Axe in response to Trump's threat. Later, he 29 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 5: responded yes to a Twitter users suggested that the president 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 5: be impeached. He then suggested the president was withholding the 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 5: release of files related to pedophile Jeffrey Epstein because they 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 5: incriminate the president. You New Yorkcome, John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio, All. 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: Right, John, thank you well. Elon Musk also appears to 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: be walking back a threat that could have put work 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: on the International Space Station at risk, and bloomberge Gina 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: Servetti continues our team coverage. 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 7: Elon Musk had threatened to decommission SpaceX's in spacecraft. That's 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 7: after President Trump posted that the government could save billions 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 7: of dollars by canceling Musk's federal contracts. Dragon is SpaceX's 40 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 7: primary vehicle for sending people and cargo into orbit, and 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 7: it's helping NEWA maintain a steady presence at the space 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 7: station until it's retired in twenty thirty. It's unclear how 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 7: serious Musk was about decommissioning Dragon. It's set to launch 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 7: another four private astronauts to the ISS with Axiom Space 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 7: next Tuesday. Gina Cervetti, Bloomberg Radio. 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: Hi, Gina, thank you. 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: The feud wiped off thirty four billion dollars from Elon 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: Musk's personal net worth in one day. Tesla shares a 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: loan fell fourteen percent. Ross Gerber is president in CEO 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: of Gerber Kawasaki and was one of Tesla's earliest investors. 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 4: This is a disaster for Mosque. 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 8: I don't know if I can spin it in a 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 8: positive way, because it's just so beyond any intelligent businessman's 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 8: behavior would be. I can't imagine after putting Trump in there, 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 8: that he would then turn Trump into an enemy of 56 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 8: all things because he's still the president of the United States. 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: That was Tesla investor Ross Gerbert. 58 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: The selloff marked the second largest loss ever in an 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: individual's net worth, according to Bloomberg's Billionaires Index. Tesla shares 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: this morning are recovering. They're up more than five percent. 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: In pre market trading. 62 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Nathan Mole, the public spat with Elon Musk may be 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: cooling off. The Trump administration is not letting up in 64 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: his fight with Harvard University, but it's taken a legal 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: setback on that front. A federal judge in Boston has 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: given the university a temporary reprieve from the president's ban 67 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: on international students entering the US to study there. Judge 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: Ellison Burrows says Harvard would face immediate and irreparable injury 69 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: if the band took effect, and she set a hearing 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: for June sixteenth. 71 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: Well, Karen, Tensions appear to be easing between the US 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: and China. President Trump and Chinese President she Jinping have 73 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: agreed to resume trade talks after months of stalled negotiations. 74 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: The leader spoke for ninety minutes yesterday. We get more 75 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: from Bloomberg News senior editor Bill Ferries. 76 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 9: Well a lot of I guess positive commentary, especially from 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 9: the US president, saying that they seem to have reached 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 9: some kind of a deal or agreement on the issue 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 9: of rare earth mineral products that seemed to be the 80 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 9: issue that was really worrying the US and US companies 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 9: we know Ford closed a factory for a week last 82 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 9: month partly based on its access to those supplies of 83 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 9: rare earths. If they can get through that with an understanding, 84 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 9: it's probably signals that the negotiations between the two sides 85 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 9: over those tariffs are back on track. 86 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: Bloomberg's Bill Ferries says. 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: President Trump told reporters he's accepted an invitation to visit 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: China and extended his own invitation to President she Nathan. 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: There's new developments this morning on two trade fronts. First, 90 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: the US and Japan have begun the latest round of 91 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: trade and go she so, with media reports suggesting Tokyo's 92 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: delegation is trying to win a reprie from the tariffs 93 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: by pledging to make more cars in the US and 94 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: enhancing cooperation on rare earths. Commerce Secretary Howard Latnik met 95 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: with Japan's top trade negotiator in Washington yesterday. Expectations are 96 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: growing that Japanese Prime Minister Shagiro is Shiban. President Trump, 97 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: who held two phone call or two phone meetings recently, 98 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: may announce a deal when they meet on the sidelines 99 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: of the summit. 100 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: And Karen Bloomberg News has learned President Trump and Canadian 101 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: Prime Minister Mark Karney have been in direct contact trying 102 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: to reach a trade deal, but still have work to 103 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: do to find agreement. The President is planning to attend 104 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: the Group of Seven leader summit in Canada that begins 105 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: June fifteenth. Some Canadian officials hope to reach a deal 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: to lower or eliminate tariffs before that. 107 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: Nathan President Trump may be backing away from his push 108 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: for a quick ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, and comments 109 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: heard live on Bloomberg Radio, the President said it might 110 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: be better to let both sides fight it out a 111 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 2: little longer. 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 6: Sometimes two young children fighting like crazy, they hate each other, 113 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 6: and they're fighting in a park, and you try and 114 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 6: pull them apart. They don't want to be pulled. Sometimes 115 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 6: you're better off letting them fight for a while. 116 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: At the same time, President Trump is suggesting he might 117 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: put sanctions on both countries if he thinks the fighting 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: is going on too long. Overnight, Russia launched a wave 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: of Dronan missile strikes on civilian targets in Ukraine after 120 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: President Vladimir Putin promised to retaliate for last weekend'st drone 121 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: attack on Russian air basis. The attacks killed at least 122 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: three people in Kiev and wounded more than a dozen others. 123 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: Let's turn back to markets now. 124 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: Karen Futures are higher ahead of this morning's key economic 125 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: report at eight thirty am. Wall Street Time, investors get 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: the May reading on jobs, and economists are forecasting a 127 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: gain of one twenty six thousand non farm payrolls. We 128 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: get a preview from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 129 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 10: He kind of has seen May jobs coming in at 130 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 10: the lowest level since last October, a slowdown likely caused 131 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 10: by uncertainty over President trump fiscal plans. Other labor market 132 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 10: indicators are suggesting weakness. The ADP found just thirty seven 133 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 10: thousand jobs created last month. The ISM's manufacturing and services 134 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 10: employment indexes showed contraction. For markets to the FED, however, 135 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 10: the key won't be the number of new jobs, but 136 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 10: the unemployment rate. A shrinking labor supply may keep the 137 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 10: jobless rate unchanged for a while. If that's the case today, 138 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 10: we should see little change in investors belief the FED 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 10: is on hold for now. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Radio. 140 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: All right, Mike, thanks and stay with Bloomberg surveillance at 141 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: eight thirty am Wall Street time. When those numbers hit 142 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: the tape, we will break them down live with analysis 143 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: from former Fed economists Claudia Sam Nathan. 144 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: Let's check some stocks that are on the move this morning. 145 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: Shares of Lulu Lemon. They're plunging more than twenty one percent. 146 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: The athleticware maker is reducing its earnings per share outlook 147 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: by about two and a half percent for the full year. 148 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: It also sees sales below analyst estimates. Lululemon is trying 149 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: to manage supply chains affected by President Trump's trade wars, 150 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: and its guidance assumes thirty percent tariffs on China and 151 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: ten percent on other countries, which could cause quote a 152 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: significant reduction and profitability. 153 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: We're els watching shares of Broadcom this morning, Karen. They're 154 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: down more than four percent. The chip supplier to companies 155 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: like Alphabet and Apple, gave a lackluster revenue forecast for 156 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: the current quarter. Analyst suggests the artificial intelligence spending frenzy 157 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: is not as strong as some investors anticipated. Like in Nvidia, 158 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: Broadcom is seen as a key beneficiary of a surge 159 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: in AI spending. 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: And Nathan changes are coming at HSBC, Europe's biggest banks, 161 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: as chairman. Mark Tucker is stepping down to return to 162 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: insurer AIA as non executive chairman. Tucker has been with 163 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: HSBC for eight years, and board member Brendan Nelson will 164 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: step in as interim chair Time now for a look 165 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: at some of the other stories making news in New 166 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: York and around the world. For that, we're joined by 167 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, good. 168 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 11: Morning, Good Morning Karen. A man accused of yelling free 169 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 11: Palestine and throwing molotov cocktails at demonstrators calling for the 170 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 11: release of Israeli hostages in Gaza has been charged with 171 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 11: one hundred and eighteen counts, including attempted murder. Mohammed Suliman 172 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 11: has been jailed since his arrest following Sunday's attack in Colorado. 173 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 11: He was advised of the charges during a court hearing 174 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,359 Speaker 11: in Boulder yesterday. District Attorney Michael Doherty. 175 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 12: I am absolutely committed to making sure the defend is 176 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 12: fully prosecuted, so obviously making sure he remains in the 177 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 12: country is a top priority so that he could be 178 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 12: fully prosecuted and held fully responsible. 179 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 11: DA Michael Doherty says The counts also include assault in 180 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 11: the first and third degrees, use of explosive or incendiary devices, 181 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 11: and animal cruelty. The judge in the Sean Diddycombe sex 182 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 11: trafficking and racketeering trial issued a warning to the music 183 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 11: mogul Combs is not supposed to react with facial expressions 184 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 11: to the testimony, but the judge said he caught come 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 11: homes nodding vigorously and looking at the jury. The judge 186 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 11: calling it unacceptable and says if it happens again, he 187 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 11: would consider excluding Combs from the courtroom for the remainder 188 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 11: of the trial. A Massachusetts community is celebrating after a 189 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 11: mill for teen was released from ICE custody. Barcelo Gomes 190 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 11: da Silva was taken into custody on his way to 191 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 11: volleyball practice nearly a week ago, alongside supporter's family. Attorney 192 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 11: Robin Iie spoke outside the courthouse in Chelmsford. 193 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 13: It's unlikely to be arrested by Ice again when you've 194 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 13: been released on bond already, so I think he'll have 195 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 13: that certain level of security, but it's hard to know, 196 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 13: and times are changing, and if it's not him, you know, 197 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 13: there's so many people in his situation. 198 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 11: Attorney Robin Nie says d Silva was picked up by 199 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 11: ice last Saturday while driving his father's car to volleyball practice. 200 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 11: Homeland Security says agents were targeting his dad, but when 201 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 11: they found that the team is in the US illegally, 202 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 11: they made the arrest. President Trump told Senate Republicans he 203 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 11: is opened to a state and local tax deduction cap 204 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 11: lower than the forty thousand dollars in the House passed 205 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 11: version of this tax bill. House Speaker Mike Johnson says 206 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 11: he's fighting to keep the forty grand camp As is 207 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 11: Global news twenty four hours a day and whenever you 208 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 11: want it with the Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barn. 209 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 11: This is Bloomberg Karen. 210 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 211 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Flushing Bank. Here's 212 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: John Stashauer, John de morning. 213 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: Good morning, Karen. 214 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 14: The Knicks and they're fans, well, they know all about 215 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 14: Indiana pacer comebacks. Late game herobics by Tyrese Halliburton in 216 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 14: a series opener, happened at the Garden in the East Finals, 217 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 14: and it happened two weeks later in Oklahoma City to 218 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 14: begin the NBA Finals. The thunder were cruising along, up 219 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 14: by fifteen with less than tenants to play back game 220 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 14: Indiana Pacers at the end trailed by a point. 221 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: Kildas Alexander Spins pulls up. 222 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 15: Humbert Alplamar gone go rebound. 223 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: Nesmith Heati's little chance to win it. Final second still 224 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: foulest to do. Caliburton looker Cayliverton driving pulls up. 225 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 11: Jump shot up. 226 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 5: It's gone with three tons of the second verating time out. 227 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 6: Okay see Tyres Halliburton does it again. 228 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 14: On ABC Indiana one one eleven, one ten. A Halliburton 229 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 14: shot gave them their first lead of the night. He 230 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 14: not only hit that shot that tied the game with 231 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 14: the Knicks, he hit game winners against Milwaukee in the 232 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 14: first round and Cleveland in the second game two Sunday 233 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 14: in OKC Game two of the Stanley Cup Final. 234 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: Tonight, Edmonton ough won nothing hosting Florida. 235 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 14: The night after the Yankees lost to Cleveland four nothing, 236 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 14: they beat the Guardians four nothing a Cody Bellinger two 237 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 14: run home at fourth inning, a Jazz Chisholm two run 238 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 14: single the seventh, and another brilliant outing by Mac Fried 239 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 14: in six innings, he allowed only one hit. First Yankee 240 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 14: Red Sox game of the season tonight at the Stadium 241 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 14: in La. The Mets led the Dodgers four nothing, five three. 242 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 14: In the eighth inning of Brett Baty Era was costly. 243 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 14: Dodgers won six y five, game winning hit by the 244 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 14: ex Met Michael Konfordo. Jerry Ryan Stor bought the White 245 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 14: Sox in nineteen eighty one for twenty million dollars. 246 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: He's now eighty nine. 247 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 14: He's got a deal in place to eventually sell to 248 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 14: real estate tycoons justin Eshbia. Aaron Rodgers waited four months 249 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 14: but finally has agreed to play quarterback for the Steelers. 250 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 14: He'll be in Pittsburgh today to sign his one year contract. 251 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 14: He'll be at their mini camp next week. They'll play 252 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 14: them men's semifinals today at the French Open. John Stanshehwad Bloomberg. 253 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: Sports Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 254 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 255 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 256 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 4: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 257 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: The dust maybe starting to settle from the extraordinary public 258 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: breakup that broke out just less than twenty four hours 259 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: ago between President Donald Trump and billionaire Elon Musk, but 260 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: investors may still be worried about the damage done. Ross 261 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 3: Gerber is president of Kerbert Kawasaki and one of Tesla's 262 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: earliest investors. 263 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 8: Institutions and pension funds had written the Board of directors 264 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 8: about Elon Musk and reigning in this kind of behavior. 265 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: And I can't assume that this isn't going to lead to. 266 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 8: Massive shareholder lawsuits against the board of directors and Tasla. 267 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: Ross Gerber with Gerbert Kawasaki there now we're joined by 268 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: Bloomberg News senior editor Derek Wallbank and Derek, the questions 269 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: are still rising here when you hear things like impeachment 270 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: and Jeffrey Epstein and cutting off government contracts, where does 271 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: this relationship stand now? 272 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 15: Good morning, Good morning, Nathan. Look, it was an absolutely 273 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 15: explosive period in a relationship that had come to define 274 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 15: the second Trump administration, at least its early days. Right, 275 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 15: Elon Musk was somebody who donated hundreds of millions of 276 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 15: dollars of his own money to electing Donald Trump as 277 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 15: well as Republicans up and down the ballot, they were successful. 278 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 15: Republicans have unified control of Washington. Musk becomes then the 279 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 15: face of Donald Trump's effort to cut government spending. The 280 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 15: two of them cite their way through the federal bureaucracy 281 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 15: and et cetera, et cetera. And now we're sitting here 282 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 15: with Musk talking about Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump and 283 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 15: all manner of other things. It got very personal, very quickly, 284 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 15: i would say, yesterday. And the cost to Musk so 285 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 15: far has been staggering. He has he saw Tesla off 286 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 15: fourteen percent. His own wealth is closely tied to that, 287 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 15: more than thirty billion of his own money on paper gone. 288 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 15: It is quite a high cost thing. At the same point, look, 289 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 15: Donald Trump wants to pass his one big, beautiful bill 290 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 15: that is the centerpiece of his own domestic agenda, and 291 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 15: Musk has become the chief antags to. 292 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 10: All of that. 293 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: It's really fascinating to think about, you know, the brand 294 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: damage that a lot of analysts think was done to 295 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: Tesla during Elon Musk's work with the government over the 296 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty days he was the public face 297 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: of the DOGE effort. What kind of brand damage can 298 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: we be looking at now that it seems as though 299 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: Elon Musk can't seem to pull himself away from the 300 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: political fray just. 301 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 15: Jet Well, I'll tell you, Nathan, you know, you quite 302 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 15: rightly mentioned that Tesla has seen and Musk has seen 303 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 15: a fair amount of brand damage among Democrats in the 304 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 15: United States, as well as the sort of political left 305 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 15: of center abroad you see in places like California, places 306 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 15: like Europe, electric vehicle sales rising and Tesla sales falling. Right, 307 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 15: So that's a critical context point to start with. And 308 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 15: now you come here to a pretty big break with Trump. 309 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 15: Musk had sort of run from one to the other, 310 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 15: even as the other one and buying Tesla's as fast 311 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 15: as the former does. This leave Musk sort of a 312 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 15: person without a home. I think, you know, this is 313 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 15: a difficult thing to parse because even as you start 314 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 15: sitting there totting up the damage, trying to figure out 315 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 15: where everything sort of stands there, we get some senses 316 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 15: that Musk is open to a cooling off. In fact, 317 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 15: it was a remarkable sort of series of events. An 318 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 15: account on Musk's x social media platform with fewer than 319 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 15: two hundred followers at the time said quote, this is 320 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 15: a shame, this back and forth. You're both better than this. 321 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 15: Cool off and take a step back for a couple 322 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 15: of days. Musk responds, good advice, and then he says 323 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 15: he's not going to cancel the Dragon Space program that 324 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 15: NASA uses to ferry astronauts up and down to the 325 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 15: International Space Station. I mean it's that level of where 326 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 15: are we where are we not with that level of impact. 327 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've got to think that it's not just 328 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 3: TESLA investors who want to see some kind of cooling 329 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: off here. Republicans on Capitol Hill as well, right, I mean, 330 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: they're trying to figure out which way to go on 331 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: the one big beautiful bill, And I would got I 332 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: have to think that Republicans are at least hoping to 333 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: count on some support from Elon Musk for their midterm 334 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: election efforts. 335 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 15: Yeah, Republicans are facing a midterm I think where most 336 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 15: of the focus is on control of the US House. 337 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 15: They would very much like to have support from Donald 338 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 15: Trump's biggest billionaire backer, you know, at their back in 339 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 15: that effort. You know, it's a very diverse kind of election. 340 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 15: You don't have Trump on the ballot. You really do want, 341 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 15: you know, to be able to walk into that campaign 342 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 15: being able to defend all the seats you need to 343 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 15: defend as well as maybe go on offense as well, 344 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 15: so you don't want to alienate Musk. At the same point, 345 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 15: Musk is set there on record saying that the cost 346 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 15: of this bill, I think the CBO's estimate was something 347 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 15: like two point four trillion dollars added to the deficit 348 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 15: over the next ten years if it gets faithfully implemented. 349 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 15: That is way more nathan than all of the money 350 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 15: that DOJE has claimed that it has saved so far, 351 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 15: even in its most optimistic telling, and like by orders 352 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 15: of magnitude more right, Musk said in another exposit, you know, 353 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 15: all of that came at a personal cost and risk 354 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 15: to him and his team. So the idea that all 355 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 15: of that would be wiped out. 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