WEBVTT - Chad Pennington (1/12) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:06.120 Like on the world you played to win the game. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:19.440 He's a Jet touchdown. You're listening to the Official Jets podcast. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:26.880 Jets three sixty production two thousand eighteen is here. Ethan 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.960 Greenberg and Eric Allen's here in studio on the Official 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.199 Jets Podcast for the first time. Happy New Year, the 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.000 New Year, Happy New Year, Happy New Year. Got any 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.440 good resolutions? No, I do not have any resolute I 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.440 don't think I've ever done that. Have you. Well, when 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.640 you say done that, you mean write them down, you 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:49.400 mean like made like a promise to myself that December 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.519 thirty one that I'm gonna do this sting Jane. I 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.760 don't know if I have like, Hey, I'm not gonna 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.880 eat chocolate, or I'm gonna work out, not even chocolate 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.600 as a post an hour a day, or maybe I'm 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.760 gonna get my cardio going, or I'm not gonna say 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.240 profanities when I'm mad. I've never done anything where I'm like, 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.960 when the new year is right on the horizon, Okay, 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.240 it's time to change it up. Okay, that's fat. I 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.280 don't look at it as a resolution. I look at 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.119 it as a time to reflect. And then maybe did 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:26.840 you reflect like tweets. You're very introspective. That's surprising, man. Okay, 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.880 all right, yea we have new goals. Okay, good for 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.600 you tweaking. I don't need the New Year to do that. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.760 You understand what I'm saying. I don't need the New 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.600 Year to do it anyway. I just think that the 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.800 the world does it then because it's a time when 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.000 everyone can turn the page together. Yeah, but the world 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.880 does not turn the page together because there's so many 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:50.600 different time zones. So I'm just summer when I'm sitting 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:54.320 in Foxborough. I mean, Australia is already celebrated, you know. 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.960 And I've had a couple of cans of Fosters and 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.840 you know, they're already into January first. And speaking of 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.320 Years Eve, it was ferociously called in New England. You know, 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.800 the the Gillette Stadium is a nice place. I will 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.280 say that the Jets haven't had a lot of success 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.720 there of late, so I was very happy to get 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.760 out in New England. But I heard they have good 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.760 clam chowder in the press. Body. Yeah, they have clam 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.600 chowder at a little Tabasco and pepper in there. Yeah, 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.359 clam chowder, solid Tabasco is synonymous to whatever e A 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.520 is eating. No, it's actually buffaloes. Okay, okay, all right, 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.200 any kind of any kind of hot sauce about that? Yeah, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:34.240 So you know, both Mike mcagne and Christopher Johnson addressed 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.280 the media season ninety news conferences after Todd Bowles talked 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.800 to the press, and what we know going forward Green's 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.880 is that the Jets aren't happy that they want five 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.560 games this year, and they do think they made some progress, 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:52.080 mostly in the chemistry department. With that being said, every 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.640 year is new and the Jets are gonna add some 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.560 new pieces right around the corner. With the league year 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.760 beginning in March, they have a lot of money just 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.480 by and Mike mccagnan said, I would probably classify us 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.320 as being potentially very active in free agency, like you know, 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.720 with with the calf space um and hopefully we can 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.440 do some things that help move this team forward. The 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.600 Jets will be very active a free agents. I think 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.000 if you're a Jets fan, you have to be very excited. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.240 You know that the team is going to have some 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:20.160 new faces at different positions. Obviously that goes for the 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.960 same for every year. But when you don't have an 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:28.320 answer at quarterback here. Offseason becomes very interesting, especially through 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:29.960 the eye of the fan. And that's not to say 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.519 that Josh McCown won't be back, because he very well could. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.920 But we'll talk about this with Chad Pennington a little later. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.800 Is that he has some tough decisions to way, whether 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.760 you know, he wants to retire and spend time with 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:44.360 his family, if he wants to come back. Jack mccagnan said, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.640 we'd welcome Josh back. Well, yeah, but the Jets have to, 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.840 you know, determine ultimately whether he fits in their plans, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.000 their immediate plans as well as Josh McCown's thirty eight 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.040 years old, he's coming off a career season. He was 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.960 beloved figure within organization, and he played tremendously on the field. 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.680 Let's not take away from what McCown did. And of 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:11.040 course he was named team MVP making those thirteen starts. Um. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.440 But uh yeah, you know, but there's gonna be some 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.720 interesting names on the free agency market and we're gonna 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.919 have to see how the dominos fall and we'll learn 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:25.919 about different teams plans in the weeks and months ahead. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.480 Oh and by the way, the Jets have the sixth 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.599 overall picks, so definitely gonna be some opportunities to plug 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.839 up some holes with marquee players through the draft, through 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.360 free agency. Obviously, it's a time will tell game as 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:43.080 of now because it's January and nothing comes until Mark. 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.360 But the landscape is so much different than last year 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.359 because last year we went in. Yes, the Jets won 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.960 five games in two thousand seventeen and won five games 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.520 in two thousand and sixteen, But after the two thousand 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:58.080 sixteen season, we were wondering what was going to be 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:03.039 the futures. Anna Marshall and Nick Mangold and Durrell reave 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:09.359 this and Nick Folk and Reno, Jock Amani and Ryan 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.000 Fitzpatrick and all those guys. The Jets part of the 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.280 ways with a lot of veterans who had contributed here, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.080 and some of them have contributed for a long time. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:22.640 Some of those guys are gonna be Ring Honor inductees 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.159 for this organization and a couple of them could be 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.159 Hall of Famers. David Harris is the guys trying to 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.760 get a Super Bowl ring with New England Patriots right now. 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.080 But the Jets had a part ways with a lot 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.120 of guys last offseason. This offseason is a completely different 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.720 field because it's gonna be who fits us, We gotta 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:45.000 make our additions. Now you have a lot more flexibility 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.840 going into this offseason, and I think the Jets are 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:51.240 gonna get a lot better, not only with what they 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.240 do in free agency, but also with the draft because 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.400 you mentioned number six. Overall, they got three picks in 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:01.479 the top forty nine. Pair two's courtesy the Sheldon Richardson deal. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.920 And how good does that deal look right now? Sheldon 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.800 richards a very talented player, no doubt about that, but 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.239 he could become a free agent himself. And the Jets 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.720 picked up Germaine Curse and they have an additional second 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.360 round pick. And even though free agency the league year 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.880 turns in March, the Jets will have opportunities to resign 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.280 their own players until that point, so they never hit 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.920 the market. So the guy that sticks out to me 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.280 other than Josh McCown is Damario Davis because he came 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.640 here in June, had a tremendous year. He loved it 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.760 here and he loves it here and he was the 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.600 leader of the defense. So that's someone that I mean, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.120 all these guys say you got you gotta give mccagnon 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.240 a lot of credit. You thinking Damario Davis, a two 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.800 thousand and twelve draft pick. He goes and spends his 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.480 first couple of years here, then he goes in Cleveland. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:54.680 But mcagnan acquired him in a swap for Colvin Prior. Yeah, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.880 like you said, Kelvin Prior no longer in the National 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.400 Football League. A nice signing with Morris Clayborne. Or worked 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.919 with the Jets training staff throughout the year, and he 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.400 stayed healthy for most of the year. I know he 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.760 battled UH some various elements, but Morris claymore and gave 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.920 you a lot. Austin Safari and Jenkins was a waiver 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.640 claim in two thousand sixteen. He had a career year. 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.560 And of course you think about what McCollum gave you 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.480 UH free agent signing last March. So you gotta give 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.040 mccagnet a lot of credit for some of these guys 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.320 he picked up. You mentioned the other day in my 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:30.360 office the trade for Terrence Brooks before this season, the 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.200 guy who gives you some at the safety position, that 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:38.000 acquired him from the Eagles in exchange for UH Dexter McDougald. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.080 So the list goes on and on. We saw Coney 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:47.240 really making some early contributions. But listen, little boy Xavier Cooper. Oh, Coop, Yeah, 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.640 Cooper played well for the defensive line UH down the stretch, 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.760 but hey, thanks can change in a hurry in the 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.560 National Football League. And I was just talking to Letter 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:59.800 Williams about it and during his season ending UH interview 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.800 with aust the Content team, and I said, isn't it weird? 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:05.960 You've been on a league for three years and you 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.800 came in and everybody's talking about this defensive line. David Snacks, 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:14.520 Harrison was here, Mohammad Wokerson, Sheldon Richardson. My point is, Greens, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.200 things change in a hurry in the National Football League. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:26.200 All right, let's check in with Chad Pennington. Chad are 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.200 you doing man? All right? Buddy? How are you good? 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:34.240 Me and Greenberg, how have you been down there in 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.319 Kentucky for the New year? Well, fellas, we've been freezing 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.680 as well, but we had a deep freeze. We didn't 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.520 get the cyclone to hit us, but we certainly felt 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.000 the cold air for sure. Have you been letting the 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.480 horses out of the barn? Are they staying in the 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.160 stables a lot, so I was taking them out to 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.079 get a little sunshine. Makes us I've been taking them 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.560 back to the to the barn, especially overnight, no doubt. Okay, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.480 So Chad, when you look back at the Jet season, 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.920 they finished with a five and eleven record. That's the 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:07.320 exact mark that they had in two thousand and sixteen. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.280 But we've been talking about it on the podcast throughout 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.240 the year. We this team showed a lot of signs 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.600 of progress and on a macro level, what did you 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:22.120 see from the Jets this season and what do they 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.800 got to do mover four? Well, I think first of all, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:29.280 you you did see a staff who, um really got 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.200 a lot out of the team. I thought that the 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.360 staff did a really good job scheme and putting the 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.959 players in positions to make plays and trying to develop 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.199 some of the young talent on the team. I thought 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.480 that was a plus, no doubt. Obviously, you have to 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.040 be excited about your two safeties, your young linebackers. You 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.360 feel like you have speed there. Um. If there was 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.080 one part of the defense that may have underperformed a 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.400 little bit at times, and it probably would be due 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.640 to the fact of losing players as well as not 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.120 having some cohesence there may be in the defensive line 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.079 just a little bit, may may need to expect a 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.040 little bit more from the defensive line, just being able 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.240 to be able to get pressure on the quarterback without 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.920 having to blitz um as much. But the most part, 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:20.880 the defensive effort was solid. Offensively, you saw some signs 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.280 of shining moments of players that really came into their 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:28.839 own Robby Anderson, ball Pale thought Safarian Jenkins really did 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:33.120 a good job at tighty end and Josh McCown had 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.880 some nice moments as a quarterback. And so you take 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.600 take some of those positives and then look where can 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.880 the team get better? Where can it really make strides? 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.440 And I think obviously everyone's first question and wanting an 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.400 answer would be at the quarterback position. Whereas the team 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.560 headed as far as the quarterback position is concerned, Chad, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.840 what's the thing you like most about this team? Because 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.720 we've touched on a number of things throughout the season, 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.040 but few were trying to convince someone on the side 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.240 of the road that the Jets are pointed in the 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.960 right direction. What do you point to? Well, first of all, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.600 point to uh just a film and the games that 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:16.120 all of us watched, UH and being able to see 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.840 how the team was in just about every game they played. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:23.560 That's the first step of being competitive weekend and week out. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.920 And now it's about adding the right pieces to not 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.160 only be competitive, but now turn those close losses into 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.240 victories and being able to buy for a playoff spot. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.400 Josh McConn is thirty eight years old. His family resides 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.839 back in Texas. This past season, he set career highs 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:46.960 and completions completion percentage passer this year and touchdowns passing 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.960 touchdowns with eighteen. He also made a career high thirteen starts. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.240 He loved it here. He was a great presence in 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.640 the locker room. The Jets appreciated his contributions. Now we 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.760 turn to the business side of pro football. What do 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.720 the Jets have to do as they evaluate their position 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.320 and conversely, what does Josh have to do as he 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.520 looks forward Now? Well, personally, Josh has to take a 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.439 look at what he wants to get accomplished. UM with 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.160 his family. I know that he has UH kids now 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.120 that are getting up in age in the middle school 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.720 years moving into high school. When those are such precious 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.920 years to be involved with your boys and your girls 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.280 and watch them grow. And I can say that because 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.440 I'm going through that right now. So that's something personally 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:39.040 for him that's a tough decision to make, and so 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.160 it will be interesting to see what he decides to do. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.559 It wouldn't surprise me at all he decided to, uh, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.800 you know, say that this was his last year playing 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.920 and he'll move back to Texas and and really focus 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.920 on his family. That would not surprise me. But at 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.000 the same time, it would surprise me the other way 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.520 either if he wanted to stay a couple of years. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.400 That's going to be a decision between he and his 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.640 wife and trying to make the best decision for their family. Um, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.240 and then moving forward, you know, looking at the quarterback position, 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.760 I think it's really really interesting because he can go 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:14.360 so many different ways based upon free agency and draft 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.560 and who you already have in the room. Uh. I'll 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.160 talk with a good friend of mine, Byron left, which 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.280 the other day and uh, he just finished up coaching 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.839 with the Arizona this year. But I thought he made 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.880 an interesting point. He said that for him, having three 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:34.160 quarterbacks in the room is crucial to the success of 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.600 that room. The two quarterback systems he doesn't believe works 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:41.520 as well UM, and that whole dynamic of of who 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:46.200 those three quarterbacks are UM can really help determine how 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.840 successful you are in that room as far as the 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.280 young guy you're developing, a veteran who's keeping the room stable, 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:57.400 and then your starter. Whatever that dynamic is, is very important, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.480 and I thought that was an interesting point that he made. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.359 We have a lot of time to talk about quarterbacks 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:06.680 who potentially will hit the market, uh in March. It's 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.000 January right now. And a couple of guys who just 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.000 declared for the two thousand eighteen NFL draft, Josh Rosen 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.319 from u c l A. Sam Donald from up the 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:20.360 Street at US see the Jets picking number six. Overall, 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.280 here's the NFL draft order for your chat. Cleveland at 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.120 number one, the Giants, and number two Indianapolis and number 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.640 three Cleveland again at number four, that's not a misprint, 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.560 and then Denver at number five. If you think about 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.160 three teams up there before the Jets, they could be 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.760 in the market potentially for a quarterback. Cleveland, the Giants. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.280 Eli Manning has had a tremendous career as you know 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.480 competed against him a number of times throughout your career 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.320 as a pro chat. And then the Denver Broncos, who 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.400 I think have a playoff roster, they did not get 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.800 playoff caliber quarterbacking at any point this season. And we'll 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.600 have to see what happens and pro free agency in 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.400 the trade market. But what do you think about the 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.720 Jets position? I mentioned those two top quarterbacks. Then you 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:12.400 got Josh Allen who is entering the draft out of 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.040 Wyoming as well. A lot of people are high on 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.960 Baker Mayfield out of Oklahoma, Lamar Jackson out of Louisville, 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.120 Mason Rudolph out of Oklahoma State. So the list goes 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.760 on and on. What do you think about the Jets 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:30.960 position right now? At number six overall and with the 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.760 money they have to spending free agency and you know, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.080 addressed a lot of areas a lot to handle there 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.360 for well, it's it's actually it's unique, and it's a 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:44.480 little bit tricky. I think, Um, your evaluations in your 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.000 scouting department are really critical here as far as the 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:52.080 college talent as well as the free agent talent. Their 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.280 work is cut out for them this off season. It 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.960 is not very clear at all as far as what 0:15:58.040 --> 0:15:59.960 could and could not happen? What do you know about 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.760 any of these guys just yet? And Uh, I believe 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.320 you told me the other day. You'll be down in 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:10.440 uh Mobile, Alma, Alabama working for the NFL legends again. Um, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.840 so the senior ball you'll be able to see Josh 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.800 Allen practice. You'll be able to see Baker Mayfield practice. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.119 But what what do you know just from your cursory 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:23.040 glances at these guys when you're not shuttling the boys 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:27.000 back and forth and running the football leagues down there. Uh. 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.440 And you're so involved with the USA Football as well, 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.200 doing tremendous things. But what do you know about any 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:36.280 of these guys who are going to be drafted here 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:41.200 in a few months. Well, I think the three top 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.480 quarterbacks there in the draft, um, Josh Allen. Uh, there 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:50.360 has always been a huge concern on completion percentage when 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:54.520 your completion were sentence in colleges sitting there at h 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.840 in the fifties. Um, that that to me is a concern. Um. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.560 And that's where you really have the determined Okay, was 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:06.119 that based on decision making? Was it based on pure inaccuracy? 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.800 What does the film tell you why that completion percentage 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.040 is like that, because you should see an upticking completion 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:17.119 percentage as a guy progresses through his career. UM. With 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:21.600 Sam Donald, I think decision making is one of his Uh. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.920 You saw this year where UM decisions were being made 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.480 that were questionable and certainly put their team in bad 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.400 situations sometimes, So you really got to take a look 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.160 at that. And then with Josh Rosen, I think you've 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.639 really got to try to evaluate what he's all about. UM. 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.960 Is he a guy that is about himself or is 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.520 the guy that you know can really come in and 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:49.280 have those leadership qualities needed to be the CEO of 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.000 your offense and quite frankly of your organization when it 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.160 comes to in between the white lines. I think those 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.320 are the three big questions for those three guys. We're 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.720 gonna find out a lot about all these guys here 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.000 coming up in the a couple of months with the 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.840 combine the pro days. Like I mentioned, a couple of 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.280 those guys will be at the Senior Bowl. But I'll 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.640 tell you what, the guy who not every Saturday had 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.000 the greatest stats in the world because I think people 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.439 were stacking the box left and writing ast them for 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.560 my money, say, Kwan Berkley might be the bust overall 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.080 player in the entire draft. There's no question Eric Keiths 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.320 kind of been a forgotten guy. Um. People are so 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.800 hot on him early in the season, and when you 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.879 watch him play, I mean, he is uh gosh, here 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:46.359 look at my goodness. He makes it look so seamless 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.600 and easy. H and you know that they're not UM. 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.080 And you can certainly see where he could be an 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:58.359 instant game changer for any team that he's drafted by. 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:03.199 He has that ability to really change the direction of 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.960 a team, UM pretty quickly, Um, because of what he 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.159 can do on the field. Chad. Last question for me 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:14.160 here is what's your philosophy of quarterbacks through free agency 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:17.720 versus the draft, Because obviously the big question with the 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.640 draft is the quarterback going to be successful in the NFL? 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:25.200 And usually top guys that are drafted, you know, one 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.200 to six, whatever it, maybe those are guys that fans 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:33.560 are clamoring to start from day one. Whereas through free agency, yes, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.359 you're spending more money, but you're also getting you You 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.680 theoretically know what you're getting in the person you bring 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.840 in the building. Well, The decision that has to be 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.480 made and has to be thought about is when if 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.680 you bring in a free agent, what type of free 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.560 agent is he? Is he the type that understand that 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.439 he um is going to be the guy for a 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.680 couple of years and needs to groom a young guy. 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.800 Some guys can do that, some guys can't. Uh, And 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.840 you have to understand when you're bringing in that free 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.080 agent is he capable of doing that? Are you bringing 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.120 in free agent that's just the starter period and you're 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.919 not even worried about the draft that that's that's the 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.560 other thing. And so that's the decision that really has 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.040 to be made, and sometimes that's not there's not enough 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:22.520 emphasis put on that as far as the man that 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.320 you're bringing into the walker room and into the building 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.239 and what he brings to the table other than just 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.280 playing on the field, because that determines what the rest 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:35.000 of that room, the quarterback room looks like um And 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.200 so that there will be a lot said based upon 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.560 who they do bring in free agent wise, if the 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.520 Jets do, and then what that means for the draft, 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.320 who do you anticipate will be playing in the super Bowl? 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.840 As you look at it right now, as we had 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.560 in the divisional weekend well a f C, I think 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.240 it's certainly comes down to the Steelers and and Staces. 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.040 I don't think the Jaguars nor the Titans have a 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.399 chance at all and winning these games on Sunday. I 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.479 think those two teams are the are the two elague 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.919 teams in the a f C. And the reason that 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.240 the Steelers do have a chance to beat the Patriots 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:14.359 because they have the offensive firepower UH to compete and 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.800 to score point for point, and it's really gonna come 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:22.399 down two in New England. Can Pittsburgh's defense get a 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:26.880 few stops UH to create an advantage for Pittsburgh's offense 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:29.880 Gonna be very difficult to do. You know, Losing that 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.720 game in the regular season completely flipped the tide on 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.080 the Steelers and made it much more difficult for them 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.479 to try to win the a f C. In the NFC, 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:44.240 it's a really interesting dynamic. You have three um Dome 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.040 teams and UH, the Saints get the benefit of going 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.359 to Minnesota, which I think if they had to go 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.800 outdoors and play Philly or being outdoor stadium, this divisional 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.439 round game would be completely different. But I'm really interested 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.800 to see how Drew Brees and the Saint offense plays 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.440 against the Vikings defense indoors, even though it's in Minnesota, 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.120 it is indoors, and those elements are gone the one 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.560 element you're doing with this crowd noise um and and 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.760 so that would be interesting. Um. And then with with 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.320 the Falcons, can they deal with the elements and feeling 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.200 this game was inside? I think you know, you would 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:23.439 really say, hey, they've got the edge. Um. So that 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:27.000 those two games I think are completely up for grabs. Uh, 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.960 and they could go either way. I think the winner 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.440 of the New Orleans Minnesota game this weekend wins the 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.400 Super Bowl. Wow, yep, sign me up, because I think 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:40.880 Minnesota right now probably has the most complete roster in football, 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:42.960 but we don't know what we're gonna get out of 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.480