1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: I ban my sister in law from the wedding because 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: my parents love her more than me. Let me explain. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: My forty three female fiance thirty eight male are getting 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: married at the end of next month. It's a second marriage, 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: so he've agreed to keep it incredibly small and intimate. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: What does it like when people say that is just 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: like it's their second marriage, so who like? 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Gives a shit? 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: We're only inviting twenty five of our closest friends and 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: family due to tight budget and wanting to keep things simple. 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Fiance's sister, forty two female, is used to being the 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: center of attention and has been a real issue for 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: my fiance his entire life. She's the golden child, and 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: his parents spend most of their time and energy catering 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: to her, from driving her to doctor's appointments, to cooking 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: and delivering home cooked meals to paying her bills regularly. 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Excuse me, I did not know my parents were supposed 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: to be a subscription to a food prep service. Bro dude, 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: another hello fresh out here? Come on? 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: His parents even used to pay him to go clean 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: her apartment for her when he was in college when 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: they were dating. No, I think when he was in college, 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: so probably before they were dating, right, because he's like 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: he's thirty eight. Now, Wow, that's crazy, dude. Imagine if 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: like your parents are like, hey, like, can you go 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: clean your sister's apartment. 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: We'll pay you twenty bucks. That'd be great. I wouldn't 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 2: be mad. 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: She is often in some kind of medical crisis, which 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: I suspect maybe munch shansins or at least severe hypochondria. 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Munchinsen's is like when you poison your kid so you 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: can take care of them. Really yeah, it's like a 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: psychological disease. 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Despite all of that, I've always had good interactions with her, 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: and we generally get along. The current issue revolves around 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: sister in law's romantic relationship. She's married to a man 38 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: that she lives with, and I've met several times at 39 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: holidays and dinners in my future in law's house. However, 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: sister in law also has another partner all called Okay, 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: So sistern law is dating multiple people at the same time. 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: She's got that little thrupple going on. Dang on her. 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: Hey g is an older woman who is married to 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: sister in law's cousin, who was also a woman. 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm where are we? I am confused? 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, just to be clear, all right, So sister 47 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: in law is married to a man. Sister in law 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: has another partner who's called G. G is married to 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: sister in law's cousin. So sister in law and the 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: cousin are related. It's almost like swinging with your family. 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: Everyone in the family is aware of the relationship and 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: it's been going on for several years. I met G 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: for the first and only time this past Thanksgiving. Before 54 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: we arrived, we were told G was now identifying as 55 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: key and we were all to address them as masculine. Okay, 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: no big deal, especially when I'd never met them before. 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: When we arrived, I was introduced to G and I 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: was surprised to see them wearing a very revealing dress. 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm not one to body SHAMEE by any means, but 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: G is a very heavy set and older and this 61 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: dress had their breast spilling out and was short enough 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: to make it obvious they weren't wearing underwear. 63 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: Oh good lord, Wow, what a situation this is right here, Holy, 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 2: this is complex. 65 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: This is the way they chose to dress to a 66 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: family Thanksgiving in New England in November. On top of that, 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: it was obvious, both by smell and appearance that they 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: had personal hygiene issues. 69 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: Nice Jesus. 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: We then had to spend the rest of the afternoon 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: watching cistern Law indulge in PDA with G. 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: That was really. 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Uncomfortable, while she gushed about having two husbands. The whole 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: situation was off putting and impossible to ignore, ensuring sistern 75 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Law was the focus of the day, it was an 76 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: awkward experience. 77 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: I have no desire to repeat. 78 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,279 Speaker 1: Oh wow, she's like, I'm so glad I have two husbands. 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: And as stated at the beginning, when we sat down 80 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: to do our wedding invites, we were focused on keeping 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: the list incredibly short, which left out several people we 82 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: would have really liked to include. When we gave an 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: invite to sister in law, we addressed it to her 84 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: and her husband. Future mother in law told us we 85 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: needed to invite G as well because of their relationship 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: with sister in law. My fiance told her sister in 87 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: law that she only got a plus one like everyone else, 88 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: and neither my fiance or I had any kind of 89 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: relationship with G. Aside from the fact we both find 90 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: G incredibly off putting. We can't trust they'll dress or 91 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: bathe appropriately for a wedding. Not bathe man, Dude, that's tough. Also, 92 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't get people that don't like taking baths or showers. 93 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: I don't either. That's true. It's fine. 94 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: I take a shower, dude, I'm ready. I can't be 95 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: on a zoom call if my breast smells bad. Oh yeah, 96 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: I want to smell like a perfume store. 97 00:04:59,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: Sane. 98 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: We know that, sister in law bringing gee. We'll just 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: ensure the focus will be on her and her relationships. 100 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: My fiance doesn't deserve that on his wedding day, and honestly, 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: neither do I. We thought the matter settled, but my 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: fiance had a family holiday yesterday at his parents' house 103 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,119 Speaker 1: that I wasn't there for. G was there, once again, 104 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: wearing a very short dress and an obvious need of 105 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: a shower. My fiance made it through the entire evening 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: without the wedding coming up right until he had one 107 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: foot out the door. As he was walking out, sister 108 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: in law told him I have two husbands and they'll 109 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: both be at your wedding. 110 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: Wow. So close, so. 111 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: Close, so freaking close would just say, like, take a 112 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: bath and fucking wear a sun dress. 113 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: I don't want these vibes at my wedding. I don't 114 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: want these vibes. Your body stanks and your vibes thanks. 115 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: I can deal with like a short dress. What I 116 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: can't deal with is a stank pit. You know, yeah, 117 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: stank pit. Fiance was taken aback, but really how to leave? 118 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: He plans on sending an email to his sister in 119 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: law and parents explaining that G is not invited to 120 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: the wedding and they need to respect our decision on that. 121 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: If it comes down to it. We believe that may 122 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: mean sister in law won't be coming to the wedding 123 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and could cause a bit of a rift in the family. 124 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: Am I wrong for wanting to stand our ground and 125 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: insist G was never invited to the wedding and it's 126 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: not welcome to show up. And there is a little 127 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: bit of an edit and an updates, a big, thick, 128 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: juicy update. But John, tell me, what do you think 129 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: is OP being too sensitive to restrictive or not? I? 130 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: And this is such like an unfortunate thing with weddings 131 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: because there is kind of a lot of people pleasing 132 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: that goes on even though it's your own wedding because 133 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: you don't want to like hurt people's feelings and all this, 134 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it's your wedding, 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: and like it's it's just I think it's just the 136 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: general vibe of G that OP is not about. Like 137 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: you could try and point out one particular thing, but 138 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: I think it's just like, yo, I don't really enjoy 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: them as as a person. I don't really know them 140 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: as a person, and I don't want to celebrate the 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: best day of my life with them. And I think 142 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: that is all you need to say. 143 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: I think also what G does is G brings out 144 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: an aspect of cistern law that ope he just doesn't 145 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: like as well. It makes sistern law less palatable. 146 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it's rough. 147 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: Would you invite G to your wedding? Let us know 148 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: the comments and let's get into this edit and updates. 149 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: Edit. 150 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: I've been accused of being out of line for mis 151 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: gendering G by using day them pronouns. 152 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: Clarify. 153 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: G asked us to refer to them as he at Thanksgiving, 154 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: but that has been in flux since then because we're 155 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: not always in the loop about what's going on with 156 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: sistern law and our partners. We find it more respectful 157 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: to refer g in gender neutral terms rather than misgendering them. Okay, 158 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: so I guess it's like sometimes g is going by 159 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: him sometimes should. 160 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: Have heard, and they're like, we want to be as 161 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: respectful as we can. Yeah, all right, on to the update. 162 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: My fiance was trying to figure out what to say 163 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: to his family about the whole situation, and it very 164 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: much is a whole situation. His mother emailed us to 165 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: make sure we were going to sister in law's birthday 166 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: and to ask if we were getting excited about the wedding. 167 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: I told my fiance he clearly couldn't wait any longer 168 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: to address the situation with his family directly, so he 169 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: emailed them clarifying sister in law only got a plus 170 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: one no for the wedding and we need to make 171 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: sure that was being respected. He also said he didn't 172 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: appreciate being told by sister in law she would be 173 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: bringing both of her partners to the wedding without even 174 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: talking it over or asking us if that was okay. 175 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: I don't have any polyamorous friends, so I wonder if 176 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: it is seen as like a dick move in, like 177 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: the poly community be like, hey, this wedding, you only 178 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: get plus one. 179 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: I could see that, but also it's more g isn't 180 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: a vibe, It's it's more Jesus vibe. But the flip 181 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: side of the coin is now a person planning a 182 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: wedding has to account for fifty percent more people, more 183 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: people than maybe they have budget for. And I think 184 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: it's you gotta go case by case, you put, you 185 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: put plus one. And then someone's like, yo, I'm actually 186 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: poly aermor's going to bring too, and it's like yeah. 187 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: The ensuing meltdown has been ugly, to say the least. 188 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: Mother in law began spamming my fiance with angry and 189 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: unhinged emails, accusing him of being anti Polly and somehow 190 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: anti Semitic. His family is Jewish, obviously including him as well, 191 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: something that is kind of cool. The whole situation is 192 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: fucked up, but it's kind of cool that the parents 193 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: are like super pro Polly. Sister in law has said 194 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: she won't speak to us. Father in law advised my 195 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: fiance not to respond to mother in law until she 196 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: calmed down. Over the past few days, she's now emailing 197 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: him about random garbage, acting like nothing ever happened. Father 198 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: in law asked to talk to fiance face to face today. 199 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was an odd request, as they usually 200 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: just talk on the phone, and we lived three hours 201 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: away from them. Fiance had to be in the area 202 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: for work today. My theory was he planned to offer 203 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: to help pay for the wedding so our budget would 204 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: be a non issue. 205 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: Not the case. 206 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: He actually told my fiance that they all thought the 207 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: budget was a big excuse since we hadn't asked them 208 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: for any financial help with the wedding. He told his 209 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: dad the whole reason we didn't ask for help was 210 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: because we wanted to keep this small and simple and 211 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: have control over the guests and not feel obligated to 212 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: invite people we didn't want there. I didn't even invite 213 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: one of my brothers I don't get along with. Father 214 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: in law agrees that g presents a lot of issues 215 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: and asks if they could convince them to be more 216 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: appropriate for the wedding if that would help. My feeling 217 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: is at this point it would become such a huge 218 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: issue that sister in law would go out of her 219 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: way to make everyone feel uncomfortable no matter what. To 220 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: prove a point which probably would happen. 221 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: This is a hill. 222 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: It appears everyone is willing to die on. Sister in 223 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: law still won't talk to us for fear of going nuclear. 224 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: Father in law told my fiance we all have to 225 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: figure this out or it's going to cause a huge 226 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: rift in the family. I think the damage is already done. 227 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: No constructive advice was offered at this point. I just 228 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: want to email them all myself and say it's a 229 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: non issue. 230 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 2: As sister in law is no longer invited. 231 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Yance isn't ready to take that step yet, still not 232 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: sure what we're going to do, and the wedding is 233 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: getting closer by the day. I told my fiance, I'm 234 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: just not even excited for this wedding anymore, which that's sad, 235 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: and I just want to call the whole thing off. 236 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to spend the rest of our lives 237 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: having our wedding be an event that tears his family apart. 238 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm sad, and I'm angry and not feeling like celebrating anything. 239 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: That sucks. Why do people make other people's weddings about themselves. 240 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: I know it's supposed to be a beautiful celebration. I'm peeved. 241 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: Also, it's like, all right, if I if I'm at 242 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: a party and someone's like, hey, like love for you 243 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: and value, but you can't bring your girlfriend, You're like, wait, 244 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: because there's a certain number of people that, like, you know, 245 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: we're trying to keep it small. 246 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: How would be totally fine with that? Yes? Yes, same 247 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: with the wedding. Yeah yeah, like yo, we got a 248 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: super limited budget. I love you, but you know, yeah, 249 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: but an older girl, Yeah, I think if you go 250 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: with the budget, it's like, okay, you can you know, 251 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: So what do you think, John asshole? Not the asshole, 252 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: not the asshole at all. People need to stop making 253 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: other people's weddings about themselves. People should be able to 254 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 2: do what they want exactly. 255 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: And actually one of the commenter's agree, so groovy MoMA 256 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: ninety eight says, not the asshole. Father in law said, 257 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: we all have to figure this out or it's going 258 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: to cause a rift in our family. That's a quote 259 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: from the story, yep, but from your description of the family, 260 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: what he really is saying is you too need to 261 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: fall in line and do what sistern in law wants, period. 262 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: Because when sistern Law isn't happy, it makes mine and 263 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: your mom's life miserable. So son is up to you 264 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: to give up your expectations of your wedding and make 265 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: it all about sistern Law because you know she is 266 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: more important than you even on your wedding day. I 267 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: would get my favorite people and just elowe great advice 268 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: from the commenter. You can just take like ten people 269 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: to vacation in Hawaii, dude, or bally amazing amazing that 270 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: sounds dope. I would do bolly compound two point zero 271 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: question mark question mark do you. 272 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: Think opca hole? 273 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: Put your answers in the comment And also, I would 274 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: love to know like your ream wedding destinations for your 275 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: second marriage, so like it has to be has to 276 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: be a fun one, yeah, it has to be like 277 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: a little bit like more low key. Yeah, and it's 278 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: like you know, like twenty to twenty five people, no stress, 279 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: no press, Yeah, what are you picking? Put your answers 280 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: in the comments and we will see you very soon. 281 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives. Time 282 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: for okop reward. 283 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for stealing my dad's one 284 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: million dollar inheritance without telling them? 285 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: You know, if I'm just going off the bat, I 286 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: would say you're kind of an asshole. Yeah, but think 287 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: of the millions, the millions. You gotta think of the money, John, 288 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: What about what about me? That is a good question. 289 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: You know, what about my needs? 290 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, don't let anyone stop you from being a 291 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: selfish piece of shit. 292 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: All our fathers did was raise us and care for 293 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: us all our lives. I mean, that's it. That's all 294 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: they've done. 295 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: That's all they've done, and it should uh, it should 296 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: be given a small nod yep, and then I fuck 297 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: you exactly. They blurw this out, blow this out, just kidding. 298 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: We love we love you, Dad's Yeah, I love your dad. 299 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: I had a great walk with my dad this morning. Actually, 300 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: there we go, see fatherly wisdom. Don't give him a 301 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: million dollars, but you. 302 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: I can bet your ass if he's getting a million 303 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: dollars in taking that chair right away? 304 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: All right. 305 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: My mother died when I was sixteen. Ouch, not a 306 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: great start. My dad married a woman two years later. 307 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: This feels like a haiku. Let's way my mother died. 308 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: Close. That's the feeling. 309 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: It's five seven five yeah, yes, yeah, I think my 310 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: mother my mom died at singing. My dad married another 311 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: another another woman. 312 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: Two years later, woman woman to Haku. Yes, this is 313 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: we did it. We did it. Call his Japanese poets 314 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: that sneeze because brilliant. There we go that that's that's 315 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: the comedy. That, that's the comedy that people pay to see. 316 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: Ye hey, hey, pay us please, I'm trying to get 317 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: that tesla money not not not a car, just a 318 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: testa coil. I don't want to do that the magic stuff. 319 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: Of course. 320 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: My grandparents, my dad's parents. Hey, my stepmother, I really 321 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: don't like her either. I love how like short and sweet. 322 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: It's like bam bamun writer. Even after my half siblings 323 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: were born, my grandparents never warmed up to her. 324 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, hey, stepmother, how you doing what? I hate you? 325 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: I hate you, and my family hates you. We don't 326 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: hate you. My grandparents are quite wealthy. My thought. 327 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: My father has been banking on this inheritance for a while. 328 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: It's so like the sun structure is very clear. He 329 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: has even not been paying into his retirement because he's 330 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: so sure that hell inherit millions. 331 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if I go that far. Daddy, oh, daddy, daddy, 332 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: oh daddy. Oh, we gotta got it. We gotta have 333 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: a talk. We gotta put some bill up that four 334 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,479 Speaker 2: oh one ka. 335 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: I just found out on Saturday that I'm getting the 336 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: majority of my grandparents' estate. My father is getting a 337 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: token amount of fifty thousand dollars, so we can't dispute it. 338 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: Oh so he thinking, he's thinking he's getting millions, and like, hey, 339 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: here's here's fifty k, which is not. 340 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Not bad, not bad, but it's it's really. 341 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: Giving that to him, so he can't be like, whoh, no, 342 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: I was screwed out of this money. It's like no, no, 343 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: this is very intentionally we're giving you this sum of money, 344 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: but no more. 345 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: Oh that is so painful. 346 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: But I feel like the person in this story that 347 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: we need to watch out for is a stepmother that 348 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: everyone hates. 349 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: Like why does everyone hate her? And what is she planning? Yeah, 350 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: this evil stepmother definitely has some skeletons in her closet. 351 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: Like OP needs to make sure to research her with 352 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: public data check just to be safe. 353 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you want to research the people around you, 354 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: absolutely check her bio. 355 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: Do it. 356 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: My grandparents maybe promise not to give out any money 357 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: after to like the father, right, and I intend to 358 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: keep my word. 359 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so Daddy's not getting shit, yeah, I mean to guess, 360 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: except the fifty km. I'm curious to see why. 361 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: But I do feel really guilty that my father just 362 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: spends his money as it's coming in because he's relying 363 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: on money he won't get. I also found out that 364 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: my dad isn't a lot of debt. Am I the 365 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: a hole for not telling him? 366 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: There's more we need to know? Yeah, I feel like 367 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: there's definitely something going behind the scenes. Is it just 368 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: because the grandparents hate the step mother that much? I 369 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: think it's probably both they don't like the stepmother and 370 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 2: something else. Something's up with the dad. That's maybe he 371 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: killed the real mother. 372 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: Don don that's how she died, and they're like, hey, 373 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: as a as a. 374 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: That's a plot twist. So so you learn your lesson. 375 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: We're not You're only giving you fifty thousand dollars, no 376 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: more murdering. But there is an update. 377 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: Well, actually, before we go to an update, is OPI 378 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: the a hole for not telling you? 379 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: Think? Okay? No, but I think OP, he's got to 380 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: figure out something because I don't know. I don't think 381 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: he should leave his dad hanging. I think you should 382 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: figure out a way to respect his grandparents' wishes while 383 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: still figuring out if he can get his dad to 384 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: like yeah, because there's gonna be so much drama, and 385 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: he's just like he's like depending on this, he's like 386 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: blowing his money, like it's not going to be good 387 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, and then he might come back way 388 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: later in life and be like, op, I need help 389 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: take care of daddy baby. Yeah. A lot of people 390 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: have asked me for updates, so I thought i'd make one. 391 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: It was kind of positive. I agreed with many of 392 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: the comments my first post where they said my grandparents 393 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: were setting me up for drama, which, dude, one thousand percent, 394 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: they definitely were. That is true. Yeah. I talked to 395 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: my grandparents and shared these concerns they were understanding and 396 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: set up a family meeting with them, their lawyer, my dad, 397 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: his wife, and myself. I sent some tea coming tea 398 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: and crumpets there will be I was secretly hoping that 399 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: my grandparents would get over some of their issues with 400 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: my dad and his wife, but no, my dad's wife 401 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: started crying and wailing when they revealed that I would 402 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: be getting most of the inheritance. I could see my 403 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: grandmother almost exploding. My dad, to his credit, looked disappointed, 404 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: but said it was their money to do as they wish. Okay, 405 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: that's a respectable. 406 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: Move on the dad's part, but still, like fuck, a 407 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: respectable move. 408 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: But but he's fucked. But he's fucked. Yeah, this is 409 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: own fault. Yeah. Is it just because he married this guy? 410 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: I feel like it's just because he married this time mother. 411 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm really confused. 412 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, the new agreement is that my father will receive 413 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars twenty five k bomb okay, all right, 414 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: and each of my younger siblings will receive a fifty 415 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: thousand education fund. My dad's wife they call me a 416 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: few days later and acted very foolishly. 417 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: You foolish wool You thought your tomfoolery would get this money. 418 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: You sound like an old time villain, like. 419 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: You fool you could thwart my evil plan? 420 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: Will nay? 421 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: I say this is not your day. I came to 422 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: do more than play. And when my say has been said, 423 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: you will all be dead. 424 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: So go ahead. The floor will still be red. You 425 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: should definitely be like those people that do the shows 426 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 2: at like Disney or whatever. Yeah, which, by the way, 427 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: can me tell you a tale or two that made 428 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: you know Jake Novak snel cast member and I'm the 429 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: next contender. Yes, yeah, he works at like the barbershop 430 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: in Treo or whatever. And then people on TikTok found 431 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: out and they started going there just to like film him, 432 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: and like, wow, dude, TikTok fame man changes you. That's right. 433 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: And she somehow thought that insulting my mother would help 434 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: her how someone gives her mom Jesus Christ. I told 435 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: her that if she ever said something bad about my 436 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: mom again, I would tell my grandparents about it, and 437 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: that seemed to shut her up. There we go. 438 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: I like that my relationship with my dad has never 439 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: been the greatest, but I haven't really seen any further 440 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: decline in the relationship. But I feel a lot of 441 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: relief now, Thanks everyone. 442 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm still like confused, as I agree, it's like 443 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: very harsh to totally like remove him so much, remove 444 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: the dad from the will just because of like this wife. 445 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: I feel like op may or somebody is leaving something 446 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: out because this doesn't make this. This math ain't math. 447 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: And literally it's like, why would you not give your 448 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: own at least? Like and then it's Op getting millions, 449 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: but the rest of the siblings are getting just a 450 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: fifty k fund. Like that's weird too. I think Ope 451 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: is omating some stuff. Honestly, why is Op getting all 452 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: the money? Because yeah, ohp he's getting all the money. 453 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: His siblings are getting fifty k for education, not even 454 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: fifty k cash, and then the dad is getting seventy 455 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: five k, like I don't. 456 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: Know, and that thought he was going to inherit million millions, 457 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: not one million millions, so that there there's there's a 458 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: few million left over here. 459 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: I'm suspicious. I'm suspicious of OK, yeah, I'm sorry. I 460 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: just don't know what's going on. I'm confused. I don't 461 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: think the step mom. I think there's there's more to this. 462 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: There's more, there's more. Maybe I think someone was mad 463 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: at tell Us tell us, I don't know. What do 464 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: you guys think