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Speaker 1: discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi, I'm Sandra Schamplain.
Speaker 1: For almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey
Speaker 1: to prove the existence of life after death. Each episode
Speaker 1: will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved
Speaker 1: ones have survived physical death and so will we. Welcome
Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. There has been a lot
Speaker 1: coming up in my radar screen about spirit guides. You know,
Speaker 1: these beings that unconditionally love us, that were with us
Speaker 1: before we were born, that walk by our side and
Speaker 1: love us more than any human being possibly could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those people spirit guides. I don't think of them much,
Speaker 1: and honestly, I don't always take my own advice. Can
Speaker 1: you believe it? While I'm human too, However, I do
Speaker 1: believe in them. But I personally have never taken time
Speaker 1: to form a relationship with whoever that person or those
Speaker 1: people are that walk with me. But a lot has
Speaker 1: come into my radar screen, so to speak, this past week,
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, actually about spirit guides. I thought
Speaker 1: we do a little bit of investigation. Who they are,
Speaker 1: what they're about, what they do for us, and how
Speaker 1: we can get into communication with them. Let me start
Speaker 1: with the most recent thing that happened was this past Saturday,
Speaker 1: I had lunch with my dear friend ROBERTA. Grimes. Now
Speaker 1: you may know her. She is the author of the
Speaker 1: Fun of Dying. I've interviewed her on this show. She's
Speaker 1: a business attorney in a long time afterlife explorer. She's
Speaker 1: got many many books out and she's got the website
Speaker 1: sekreality dot com. She's also got the Seek Reality podcast
Speaker 1: with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of great episodes. When
Speaker 1: we met for lunch, she was talking to me about
Speaker 1: her books and how it doesn't feel like she wrote them,
Speaker 1: it feels like she channeled them. Now, this isn't the
Speaker 1: first time I've heard that expression, that people feel so
Speaker 1: much on autopilot that the words flow out of them
Speaker 1: as if someone else had written them. So when I
Speaker 1: talked to her a little bit more about it, she
Speaker 1: spoke about her guide. His name is Thomas, And I said,
Speaker 1: quite honestly, well, I don't really know who my guides are.
Speaker 1: And she seemed a little surprised. You know, me who's
Speaker 1: been involved in afterlife research for so long. Well, she
Speaker 1: said she's developed such a relationship with her main guide,
Speaker 1: this is Thomas, that over the years she's come to
Speaker 1: learn what is him and what is her voice speaking.
Speaker 1: We all have a soul, we are all very powerful.
Speaker 1: We can all come up with some really great things
Speaker 1: and some great ideas. And is it our soul or
Speaker 1: is it one of these spirit guides? She said with
Speaker 1: her the voice first started coming out as her own voice,
Speaker 1: but it was these grand ideas and things that she
Speaker 1: normally wouldn't have thought of. And as time and on,
Speaker 1: and through lots of conversation. In her conversation, this guide
Speaker 1: presented himself started speaking with a more male voice as Thomas.
Speaker 1: She says, the way she distinguishes now what is her
Speaker 1: internal voice and what is her Thomas is? She says,
Speaker 1: it's just over her left shoulder and back when he
Speaker 1: speaks to her. That's the area it seems to come from,
Speaker 1: this voice, and everything else that happens is within her
Speaker 1: own head. But she says he draws attention to things.
Speaker 1: He tells her what projects she needs to work on next.
Speaker 1: When she's writing a book, he's right there putting in
Speaker 1: his thoughts and his words, And she says sometimes she
Speaker 1: even has to look up the words in a dictionary
Speaker 1: to make sure they are words, and a lot of
Speaker 1: them are old words that haven't been used in a
Speaker 1: long time. Roberta is a smart cookie. She is very intelligent.
Speaker 1: She's very skeptical, and so to hear the story from her,
Speaker 1: there's credibility to it. Now. Also on my radar screen
Speaker 1: here is our friend Scott Milligan who every Friday does
Speaker 1: a demonstration of trance mediumship and through him speaks a
Speaker 1: voice a person by the name of Eric, completely different personality,
Speaker 1: voice and everything as Scott. And I've known Scott for
Speaker 1: now about six years and he is a completely different
Speaker 1: person than this Eric. And when Eric speaks, he speaks
Speaker 1: in an old English voice, uses words that we don't
Speaker 1: hear too much these days. And you can ask him
Speaker 1: a question about anything. He never misses a beat, never
Speaker 1: does an or let me think about it, or that
Speaker 1: hesitation that we do as humans. He is smooth talking.
Speaker 1: He can answer any question about life, death, in the
Speaker 1: afterlife again without missing a beat. So we host online classes,
Speaker 1: as you know, and one of them, Scott was talking
Speaker 1: about meeting our spirit guides. So for me it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: here's spirit guides coming up again. And on a meditation
Speaker 1: that he did or leading us in this sitting and
Speaker 1: quieting of the mind, he had us imagine the love
Speaker 1: from our parents or whoever is no longer walking on
Speaker 1: this earth with us, someone who is deceased, and had
Speaker 1: us really envision and feel a memory of being close
Speaker 1: to them. And it is his belief, as with many others,
Speaker 1: that the way to connect with our loved ones is
Speaker 1: through the language of emotion, So closing your eyes and
Speaker 1: having a memory and really feeling the love that kind
Speaker 1: of is the gateway to open up that conversation with them.
Speaker 1: And what they do is, you know, some of them, yes,
Speaker 1: can learn how to flicker light switches on and off
Speaker 1: and put messages on cell phones and things like that,
Speaker 1: but for most they retain their personality. Someone who is
Speaker 1: soft spoken and quiet and lets everybody speak before her
Speaker 1: would have been my grandmother, So it's no wonder that
Speaker 1: in all these years since she's passed about fourteen now,
Speaker 1: that she's only come through a couple of times, that
Speaker 1: was her personality. And then you get my dad, who
Speaker 1: was well, I don't want to say he was entertaining.
Speaker 1: He wasn't, but he was very vocal with his beliefs.
Speaker 1: I'll put it to you that way. Great guy. Everybody
Speaker 1: loved him, very very positive. So it's no wonder he's
Speaker 1: like the first on the scene. And of course I
Speaker 1: love them both very much, different personalities. So in this
Speaker 1: meditation we were doing with Scott, I imagined some time
Speaker 1: I spent with my dad, and what came first to
Speaker 1: mind is when I spent so many days holding his
Speaker 1: hand in the hospital room before he asked, we had
Speaker 1: such a great connection. I would bring in my computer
Speaker 1: and two headsets, and we would watch movies and tell
Speaker 1: stories and do whatever was possible to pay attention to
Speaker 1: something positive instead of him concentrating on the pain that
Speaker 1: he was feeling. I remembered those times with my dad
Speaker 1: and just that pure love that I felt for him,
Speaker 1: and it was almost like this whish that came through,
Speaker 1: and all kinds of other memories just get implanted in
Speaker 1: my mind, almost like a slide show. Now, my brain
Speaker 1: can't come up with things that fast, so it is
Speaker 1: trusting that this is my dad coming through. I could
Speaker 1: feel a hug, I could feel his presence, I could
Speaker 1: feel what it was like to hold his hand. These
Speaker 1: are all very subtle things, and yes it's easy to
Speaker 1: think this is our imagination, but like any muscle that
Speaker 1: we want to develop, we have to strengthen it. So
Speaker 1: the more times we do that there, our loved one
Speaker 1: is like, hey, they're really trying to get through to me.
Speaker 1: Let me try. From my end two, well, during this meditation,
Speaker 1: Scott had asked our loved one to introduce us to
Speaker 1: our spirit guide. Now, I wish I could tell you
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, VOILA, this most wonderful spirit
Speaker 1: guide was there with me, but it didn't happen that way.
Speaker 1: My rational brain kicked in and said, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. The way we human beings work is
Speaker 1: when we want an answer to something, something will show
Speaker 1: up in our mind, whether we put it there or
Speaker 1: the other world puts it there. So let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question. Right now. Think of a color and boom,
Speaker 1: you probably thought of one. I just thought of purple.
Speaker 1: Think of a number, Boom, there you got one, right, Well,
Speaker 1: my mind just came up with fourteen. Think of someone
Speaker 1: you love that's no longer walking this earth. Boom, there
Speaker 1: they are, right, And my mind saw my grandmother. Does
Speaker 1: it mean that my grandmother's not there? No, but something
Speaker 1: like this, when we're trying to picture something on demand,
Speaker 1: I really think our imagination can kick in. So if
Speaker 1: I were to say, imagine your spirit guide right now,
Speaker 1: you know you may have somebody from history. Abraham Lincoln
Speaker 1: just popped into my mind, a president of the United States.
Speaker 1: Does it mean he's not there cheering me on? Well?
Speaker 1: Who knows, you know. But I don't think this is
Speaker 1: the right way to access our spirit guides. Not saying
Speaker 1: that Scott's method doesn't work. I do think, the more
Speaker 1: times I relax and allow my mind to just be
Speaker 1: present and feel the love and feel that intention say,
Speaker 1: the more times the same person starts coming in, the
Speaker 1: more times it might be, Hey, you might be here
Speaker 1: guiding me. There may be many people guiding us as well.
Speaker 1: It's said that we all have a main spirit person
Speaker 1: that has walked this earth, who is there before we
Speaker 1: are born. We discuss how we're going to play this
Speaker 1: game called life, and they're the first to greet us
Speaker 1: when we return home. And it's also said that depending
Speaker 1: on what we have going on in our life, spirit
Speaker 1: guides come and go. So if you start a new
Speaker 1: project and you suddenly decide you want to paint something,
Speaker 1: and you buy yourself a canvas and some oil paints,
Speaker 1: and you maybe have a course online that you're following, now,
Speaker 1: there's a good chance that a spirit guide who's got
Speaker 1: some skill in art might step in. Have you ever
Speaker 1: felt like you were in the zone so present to
Speaker 1: something that time goes by and you don't even realize it. Well,
Speaker 1: I think those are some of the times that our
Speaker 1: guides come in and that our soul is on fire
Speaker 1: in a good way. So I really want to use
Speaker 1: our time together today investigating our spirit guides, and by
Speaker 1: the end of the episode, have a practice that we
Speaker 1: can all do to build this relationship. Now, the truth is,
Speaker 1: we may never know who they are, we may never
Speaker 1: have a name, we may never know if their male
Speaker 1: or their female. But what we will all know is
Speaker 1: that right by your side, standing there with a big
Speaker 1: old smile, is someone who loves you so unconditionally, more
Speaker 1: than any human being ever has, someone who has walked
Speaker 1: every step with you, someone who has taken every breath
Speaker 1: with you, someone who has given their soul's existence to
Speaker 1: make your life better. So again, by the end, we're
Speaker 1: going to be open to this and also start a
Speaker 1: conversation with them, an ongoing one. So we're going to
Speaker 1: go into our very first break, and when we come back,
Speaker 1: I'm want to tell you some of the things I
Speaker 1: know and some of the really wonderful experiences I've had.
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Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain, and we
Speaker 1: are talking about spirit guides. When I spoke earlier about
Speaker 1: Scott Milligan having this Eric who speaks through him. He's
Speaker 1: also got a Native American called morning Star, a young
Speaker 1: fellow named Daniel, and so many more. There are what's
Speaker 1: called guides. There are also friends and helpers. I do
Speaker 1: believe there's angels and there are our loved ones. Now
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about angels. The first thoughts I have
Speaker 1: of these spirit helpers, and maybe you experience this too,
Speaker 1: are these parking lot angels, some being that would help
Speaker 1: you find a parking space. If you get to a
Speaker 1: busy mall or shopping center, you just ask your angel
Speaker 1: help me find a spot, and voila, there is a spot. Now.
Speaker 1: I have done this from time to time, haven't always
Speaker 1: found a spot, but I never really gave it too
Speaker 1: much credibility. A lot of people completely believe in this.
Speaker 1: It's very possible that there are these angels helping us out,
Speaker 1: but they also may be known as our spirit guides. Now,
Speaker 1: when somebody works through Scott through trance mediumship, he says
Speaker 1: that they are his friends, not so much their guides.
Speaker 1: These are people that work with him to help spread
Speaker 1: inspiration to the masses, and that they do. They really
Speaker 1: do bring so much comfort. And hope and really great conversations.
Speaker 1: The guides can remain more quiet in the background, but
Speaker 1: they're always there. I think just knowing that we have
Speaker 1: this team of invisible beings, these people, is amazing to me.
Speaker 1: So it's not just our guides, it is these friends
Speaker 1: that can help us with different things in life, perhaps
Speaker 1: angelic beings who have never come here before. And then,
Speaker 1: as a real bonus, our loved ones. Now. Our loved
Speaker 1: ones are busy, they have their lives to live, They're
Speaker 1: still learning and growing on the other side, but they
Speaker 1: are absolutely only a thought away. In fact, they could
Speaker 1: be busy doing one thing and then pop over and
Speaker 1: be with you. It's amazing some of the evidence that
Speaker 1: I hear in the demonstrations of mediumship, just how close
Speaker 1: they are and what they witness. One of the first
Speaker 1: times that I saw these friends in action and learned
Speaker 1: about trance mediumship is when I took a trip to
Speaker 1: the Arthur Finlay College in the UK with my friend Darla.
Speaker 1: And Darla I had met back on a workshop years
Speaker 1: and years ago. I love her dearly. She's always interested
Speaker 1: in trying new things and she always has a foot
Speaker 1: into mediumship and all kinds of artistic things. She's really
Speaker 1: great exploring her passions. But we decided to go to
Speaker 1: the Arthur Finlay College and it has been Oh the
Speaker 1: building itself has been in existence for hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 1: of years, but it is the foremost place to go
Speaker 1: when one is considering psychic studies. There are different tutors
Speaker 1: there that come around. Each week there's someone new. They're
Speaker 1: goodhearted people, all based in the truth that we are
Speaker 1: spiritual beings having a human experience, that are loved ones
Speaker 1: go on, and that there's a way to get in
Speaker 1: touch with them. The Great Gordon Higginson is one of
Speaker 1: the people that are responsible for having the Arthur Finlay
Speaker 1: College be here present day old Arthur Finley. Back in
Speaker 1: the day he and Gertrude Finlay witnessed some amazing mediumship
Speaker 1: and they gave their home, which is a massive mansion
Speaker 1: a state. I mean, it's huge. They gave this so
Speaker 1: that people could continue studying and learning about the afterlife.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful old place and if you think of
Speaker 1: the movie Harry Potter, one of those kind of places
Speaker 1: is what I think of when I think of the
Speaker 1: Arthur Finlay College. When we went to the College. We
Speaker 1: went for a week. We pre arranged to take this
Speaker 1: general mediumship course, and when we got there, they divvied
Speaker 1: us up between how much a mediumship experience we had.
Speaker 1: And although I had taken a few small courses in
Speaker 1: the past, I really felt like I was a beginner.
Speaker 1: You know. I still feel like I'm a beginner, even
Speaker 1: though I've taken lots of classes. There's always more to explore.
Speaker 1: Darla was in a different class because she had more
Speaker 1: experience than I did, and we would learn how our
Speaker 1: psychic faculty works and what mediumship is, and it's using
Speaker 1: our psychic faculty, and instead of working with human to human,
Speaker 1: it's working human to someone who's no longer walking this earth.
Speaker 1: So it was pretty extraordinary. I was so passionate about
Speaker 1: what I learned. That's one of the reasons why we
Speaker 1: do the online mediumship classes with the great tutors, Carry
Speaker 1: McLeod and Philip Dike's They've both stemmed from Gordon Higginson's
Speaker 1: mediumship and they can both teach on this way, you know,
Speaker 1: which really does tap into I think the best evidence
Speaker 1: that our loved ones are around. So during this class,
Speaker 1: they also offered an extra class we could do, and
Speaker 1: there were choices from trance mediumship to recordings like electronic
Speaker 1: voice phenomena and things like that. The night before I
Speaker 1: had witnessed Eileen Davies, who's another great trance medium do
Speaker 1: trance mediumship. And I tell you what, I couldn't even
Speaker 1: believe what I experienced. This woman sat in the sanctuary
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the inside of a church, on
Speaker 1: the altar, so to speak, and she had two ladies
Speaker 1: by her side. She closed her eyes. There were a
Speaker 1: couple of songs played, and then yes, the voice of
Speaker 1: someone else spoke through her. It was an Asian gentleman
Speaker 1: with beautiful inspiration. The second voice that came through was
Speaker 1: a friend, more like a voice that Eileen spoke with,
Speaker 1: and she has a British accent. The third voice that
Speaker 1: came through was someone called Ula, someone who had been
Speaker 1: a slave in the Deep South, who had a really
Speaker 1: strong Southern American accent from those days, filled with personality.
Speaker 1: She was talking to the audience. Even though Eileen's eyes
Speaker 1: were closed, she could still see the people in front
Speaker 1: of her and talk to them, and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: So when I could choose an extra class, what I
Speaker 1: really wanted to choose was this transmediumship. However, because I
Speaker 1: had no experience and I was a beginner, they put
Speaker 1: me in the class with the electronic voice phenomena in
Speaker 1: using our phones to capture lights and things like that.
Speaker 1: It was interesting, but I have to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: my heart was broken because I really wanted to explore
Speaker 1: what this transmediumship was all about. When I returned home, though,
Speaker 1: Darla had told me about a medium by the name
Speaker 1: of Tony Stockwell, and I had not heard of him
Speaker 1: at that time. So I checked out on YouTube and
Speaker 1: there are tons and tons and tons of demonstrations that
Speaker 1: he had done publicly when he was younger. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was right on giving information about loved ones who
Speaker 1: were deceased. Now picture this deep in my soul. I
Speaker 1: want to learn more about transmediumship, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I am finding out about this amazing medium called Tony Stockwell.
Speaker 1: There's a place in Rhinebeck, New York called the Omega
Speaker 1: Center where I had my first experiences capturing electronic voice phenomena,
Speaker 1: and I felt like I wanted to go back. So
Speaker 1: there was just that little tug on my soul. Now,
Speaker 1: was it my spirit guide? Was it my soul speaking
Speaker 1: to me? I don't know. But I had one weekend free.
Speaker 1: I went to the Omega website to see who was
Speaker 1: teaching that weekend, and guess what I saw? Tony Stockwell
Speaker 1: teaching a class in trance mediumship. Now I can't make
Speaker 1: this stuff up. These are the times that I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm divinely guided. And it's not just me, it's
Speaker 1: you two. Have you had times in your life that
Speaker 1: you get this pull or you've got this synchronicity that happens,
Speaker 1: and you just have this feeling like I was meant
Speaker 1: to be here. Well, I felt like I was meant
Speaker 1: to go to that Tony Stockwell weekend, and sure enough
Speaker 1: I did. It was the place where everybody was accepted,
Speaker 1: no matter what experience you had or you didn't have.
Speaker 1: And Tony talked about us all having these beings that
Speaker 1: are around us that work with us. Guides is what
Speaker 1: he called them, and he said they can work through us,
Speaker 1: they can provide inspiration to ourselves and to others, and
Speaker 1: how important it is to build up a relationship with them.
Speaker 1: I mean, could you imagine standing by someone's side for
Speaker 1: an entire lifetime in them, not even talking to you,
Speaker 1: and you continually giving them love and support. And what
Speaker 1: would it be like to have that person all of
Speaker 1: a sudden say hey, I know you're around, I can't
Speaker 1: quite see you, I don't know your name, but thank you.
Speaker 1: And to build that relationship, I think more and more
Speaker 1: and more things would come. So in the class with
Speaker 1: Tony Stockwell, we had different experiences of closing our eyes
Speaker 1: and letting Tony guide us into that place of being
Speaker 1: totally still and then with a loving thought, whoever it
Speaker 1: is that's working with us, if they would like to
Speaker 1: step into our presence. Now, they don't take us over,
Speaker 1: they don't. It is just a blending of energies. So
Speaker 1: I'm always quite aware that I'm still Sandra, but the
Speaker 1: goosebumps would start, you know, like Patrick Swayze stepping into
Speaker 1: Whoopi Goldberg in the movie Ghost. You know, I wasn't
Speaker 1: convinced that this wasn't my imagination. There was a great
Speaker 1: exercise that we got to do. So I was with
Speaker 1: these two ladies that I didn't know, and Tony said,
Speaker 1: we want each one of you to have practice being
Speaker 1: the medium and letting someone speak through you. Now I
Speaker 1: had never done this before and the two ladies had.
Speaker 1: So I was a little intimidated, but I am of
Speaker 1: the thought that I would rather get something done first
Speaker 1: than sit there in fear. I closed my eyes. Tony
Speaker 1: let us to this very quiet place. He also said,
Speaker 1: you can get the ball rolling by saying spirit wants
Speaker 1: to tell you, and then whatever comes out of your mouth.
Speaker 1: So it takes some time, so it's not as easy
Speaker 1: as just closing your eyes and these great words of
Speaker 1: wisdom come out. In fact, there are some people that
Speaker 1: are fraudulent channelers transmediums out there that will simply close
Speaker 1: their eyes and all of a sudden speak as if
Speaker 1: there's someone else be wary of that. It takes a
Speaker 1: good ten minutes or so of really having that person
Speaker 1: quiet their mind before this happens. And with that, with
Speaker 1: my eyes closed, I literally felt the presence of a
Speaker 1: woman who was wearing like a whalebone corset. Felt like
Speaker 1: I was wearing these old shoes from the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: I had a bun in my hair, and I was older.
Speaker 1: I felt like I had a gray dress on and
Speaker 1: it was very interesting. But again I didn't know if
Speaker 1: this was my imagination, so I just start out speaking.
Speaker 1: I said, spirit wants to say, And I have to
Speaker 1: tell you it was like this whoosh that came through me.
Speaker 1: All these words started coming out of my mouth, very
Speaker 1: very powerful, and I kind of shocked myself. So I
Speaker 1: stopped and I opened my eyes and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: what do you guys? Goes next? Something came over me
Speaker 1: in a beautiful way, filled with power, filled with almost
Speaker 1: like women's rights. That's what I would have to say.
Speaker 1: That woman felt like she was in those times. Anyways,
Speaker 1: incredible experience. So I want to tell you what happened next,
Speaker 1: but of course we have a break. You're listening to
Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of
Speaker 1: the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain and we are talking about
Speaker 1: spirit guides. Where I last left this conversation was after
Speaker 1: my very first experience with trans mediumship, sitting with two
Speaker 1: ladies I didn't know, closing my eyes for a good
Speaker 1: solid ten minutes or so, and out of my own
Speaker 1: mouth came some very profound words, words that were empowering
Speaker 1: to these women about what it was to be a woman,
Speaker 1: about how to stand up for themselves and things like that.
Speaker 1: Now I couldn't pay attention to the words, because if
Speaker 1: I did, the words would stop. But I certainly felt
Speaker 1: the presence of this woman, as if I was wearing
Speaker 1: the gray dress and the whalebone corset and these old
Speaker 1: timer shoes. When I opened my eyes, these women were
Speaker 1: very emotional. It was like just the words they needed
Speaker 1: to hear. And for me, it was amazing experience. Just
Speaker 1: knowing that there's people or a person this close nearby
Speaker 1: that is so empowering. Now I want to warn you
Speaker 1: against something because in my discoveries, there's some really great people,
Speaker 1: but there's also some crazies. I was at a conference
Speaker 1: and this gentleman really wanted to give me a reading,
Speaker 1: so to speak. And I didn't know quite who he was.
Speaker 1: I thought he was some kind of a trance medium.
Speaker 1: He sat on the couch next to me, he threw
Speaker 1: his head back. All of a sudden, he straightened up.
Speaker 1: He started staring into my eyes and making all these
Speaker 1: kind of weird gestures with his face, and his significant
Speaker 1: other was saying that he was channeling the Virgin Mary,
Speaker 1: and you know what, I just didn't quite buy it.
Speaker 1: I was freaked out. I was uncomfortable. But what did
Speaker 1: I decide to do, because you know we all have
Speaker 1: that inner BS detector. Instead of backing down what I did?
Speaker 1: I straightened up and I went right face to face
Speaker 1: with him and looked right into his eyes. The next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, his eyes closed. He threw his head back
Speaker 1: on the couch. He opened his eyes again and said, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm back. You know what, for me, that wasn't proof
Speaker 1: of anything. When people come through Guide's Friends, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call them, there needs to be an intelligence.
Speaker 1: It cannot insult you by any means. There needs to
Speaker 1: be words that touch your soul as if sent by
Speaker 1: God and so to speak, or the truth. There should
Speaker 1: never be words that hurt you, make you feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: make you feel upset. Really, you are a very powerful soul.
Speaker 1: Let things resonate within you. There are people out there
Speaker 1: on the internet charging some big sums of money to
Speaker 1: do demonstrations even private readings this way, and because it's
Speaker 1: different and unique, it's very easy for people to think
Speaker 1: it's real. But again, let it bounce off your inner
Speaker 1: BS detector. If it resonates like the truth and it
Speaker 1: makes you happy, yeah, go for it. So as my
Speaker 1: journey continued, you know, somewhere in this time, I took
Speaker 1: a trip to Bannion Retreat in the UK and that's
Speaker 1: where I met our friend Scott Milligan and first got
Speaker 1: to see him demonstrate his trance mediumship with the different
Speaker 1: friends that speak through him. I was left with such
Speaker 1: an urge to find out more about this, so I
Speaker 1: took a course back in the UK at the Arthur
Speaker 1: Finlay College. Took my friend Darla with me and she
Speaker 1: took another course, and every night I would just report
Speaker 1: in on what I learned. I did the experiments between
Speaker 1: different people in the class and myself, and what I
Speaker 1: witnessed was really profound about other people having these powerful
Speaker 1: voices coming through them. I have a lot of fear
Speaker 1: within me, and as human beings, we don't want to
Speaker 1: feel stupid or look silly or anything like that. I
Speaker 1: think I was a little too on edge, a little
Speaker 1: too high strung to totally relax into it. But there
Speaker 1: were definitely sometimes working one on one with someone that
Speaker 1: I felt a presence of someone come through me and speak. Now,
Speaker 1: what the instructor said is that we are souls having
Speaker 1: a human experience. Of course, our souls are divine and
Speaker 1: they're very intelligent. And what she said is when you speak,
Speaker 1: you may think it's someone else, but it may be
Speaker 1: your own soul. So this was the first time I
Speaker 1: started thinking, oh, I've got an intelligent soul. If you
Speaker 1: take away the part of our humanity that has the
Speaker 1: ego right, that wants to look good, doesn't want to
Speaker 1: look bad, has all the fears, if you take away
Speaker 1: the part that thinks that this earth is all there is,
Speaker 1: and you get reconnected with that part of yourself that
Speaker 1: knows there's a bigger picture, that knows you came from
Speaker 1: a place and you're having this journey on earth, that
Speaker 1: knows that you're here to learn and you're here to grow,
Speaker 1: sees the biggest perspective of your life. Well, there's your soul.
Speaker 1: And so your soul is very, very wise. So some
Speaker 1: of these times, she was saying, when you close your
Speaker 1: eyes and you do this blending in allowing someone who
Speaker 1: wishes to work through you to be able to speak,
Speaker 1: she says, sometimes it is your own soul. She says,
Speaker 1: in fact, in the beginning, that could be nine Sandra
Speaker 1: mixed in with her soul and maybe one percent someone
Speaker 1: from the spirit world or a guide. The idea is
Speaker 1: to practice to be comfortable, to spend lots of time
Speaker 1: doing what's called sitting in the power, closing your eyes
Speaker 1: without expecting anything out of it, just saying I'm here
Speaker 1: in service, I want to learn, i want to develop,
Speaker 1: close your eyes, take several deep breaths, zone out, get
Speaker 1: to that place of nothingness if you can, with that
Speaker 1: loving intent to connect with that unseen world, and when
Speaker 1: the time is right, things happened. But in class we
Speaker 1: did some exercises with inspirational writing. So we would close
Speaker 1: our eyes and we would do this blending and quieting down,
Speaker 1: and then someone would ask a question, and in our
Speaker 1: notebooks we would just allow whatever thoughts came to mind
Speaker 1: to be written. And so with that there were thoughts
Speaker 1: that seem, I don't want to really say divinely written,
Speaker 1: but they were pretty inspirational. I can say that there
Speaker 1: were things that came out of my pen on paper
Speaker 1: that I too had to look up the meaning of
Speaker 1: the words. I didn't know if they were really words,
Speaker 1: but it seemed to flow when my pen was writing.
Speaker 1: And when I say when my pen was writing, I
Speaker 1: was aware, I was alert, but I wasn't consciously creating words.
Speaker 1: I was just allowing words that were showing up in
Speaker 1: my mind to flow through the pen and onto the paper.
Speaker 1: One thing I want to say, also, I had mentioned
Speaker 1: this a little bit earlier, that people don't take us over.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a subtle blending of energies. This
Speaker 1: is not like The Exorcist or anything that was a movie,
Speaker 1: a scary movie. This is love coming from the unseen world,
Speaker 1: which is all love. In the twenty five years I've
Speaker 1: been into this, I've never looked for paid attention to
Speaker 1: the weird, crazy, evil things. And you know what, none
Speaker 1: of that has ever shown up. Not saying it's not
Speaker 1: out there and not saying there aren't little green men
Speaker 1: on Mars and all of those different things. But I'm
Speaker 1: in the game of helping people through grief, helping people
Speaker 1: believe in the much bigger picture about the afterlife being
Speaker 1: real and us being powerful souls. So what we learned
Speaker 1: at the Arthur Finlay College is you do not need
Speaker 1: to do a prayer of protection from evil spirits. There
Speaker 1: are none now. If you don't believe me, you can
Speaker 1: still do a little prayer of protection if you want.
Speaker 1: If you want to picture yourself inside of a beautiful
Speaker 1: bubble that only good, loving things are there. You can
Speaker 1: certainly do that it won't hurt anything. And with my
Speaker 1: trip to the Arthur Finlay College, I left there excited,
Speaker 1: but I almost feel like I didn't get my money's worth,
Speaker 1: not because of them, but because of my own fears.
Speaker 1: So what did I do? I booked another trip and
Speaker 1: this time I went all by myself. There wasn't a
Speaker 1: single person there except for the instructor who knew who
Speaker 1: I was. And so I said, if not here where,
Speaker 1: you know, this is my opportunity to really put myself in.
Speaker 1: And during our experience, every time we did an exercise,
Speaker 1: I played full out. I closed my eyes. I did
Speaker 1: my very very best to quiet my mind. And that's
Speaker 1: what you need to do to let them latch hold
Speaker 1: of you. You know, this might be a bad comparison,
Speaker 1: but when I think of fighter jets and they're aiming
Speaker 1: a missile, so to speak, you know they've got to
Speaker 1: lock the target. And for our spirit friend to join
Speaker 1: with us, our mind has to be quiet enough so
Speaker 1: they can lock targets on us and be able to
Speaker 1: work with us. And again, they're just working with our energy.
Speaker 1: They're not using us, they're not taking over us. We're
Speaker 1: very much aware that we are still in body, so
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. One of the most wonderful things
Speaker 1: that happened was, well, I'll give you a few one.
Speaker 1: We did lots of exercises of inspirational writing. Like I
Speaker 1: had just told you about. We did exercises where we
Speaker 1: would work with a partner and we would have the
Speaker 1: intention to blend with their loved one and write something
Speaker 1: just for them. And in those experiences, boy, I really
Speaker 1: felt like I was a or a dad, or a
Speaker 1: child or a sister, and the words that would come
Speaker 1: out of my pen, it turned out, were just what
Speaker 1: they needed to hear. There was trance healing, where the
Speaker 1: spirit people can actually use our energy when we're in
Speaker 1: that special zone and send a healing to another person.
Speaker 1: Something really spectacular that I witnessed was the instructor would
Speaker 1: go into trance and she would allow someone's loved one
Speaker 1: to talk through her. And again this was kind of
Speaker 1: like the movie Ghost, but on two occasions I saw
Speaker 1: her speaking still her own voice, but giving the most
Speaker 1: beautiful messages to the two students. One was from a
Speaker 1: mother and one was from a father and there are
Speaker 1: things no one else could know, and it had all
Speaker 1: of us one hundred percent in tears. That was special.
Speaker 1: And then just before we left, on the very last
Speaker 1: few hours of class, the instructor said, is there anyone
Speaker 1: here that would like to attempt to sit for the
Speaker 1: entire class? And you know what, as scared as I was,
Speaker 1: I raised my hand. So there was a group of
Speaker 1: about twenty five of us in a circle, and they
Speaker 1: were all sending me loving energy, you know, as one does.
Speaker 1: And I sat there, closed my eyes with everything that
Speaker 1: I learned from class, and just said, if I'm meant
Speaker 1: to be used as a messenger, you know, I'm here
Speaker 1: to serve. And after however many minutes, I just opened
Speaker 1: my mouth and said, spirit wants to say. And what
Speaker 1: flooded out from me was some kind of a story
Speaker 1: I'm told later about the journey of life. And it
Speaker 1: was about crossing an ocean and the boat and the
Speaker 1: moon and the stars. And while the words were coming
Speaker 1: out of my mouth, I couldn't pay attention to them,
Speaker 1: or else the words would stop, so I would have
Speaker 1: to just pay attention to my breathing and the words
Speaker 1: would continue. We've got to fit in a quick break
Speaker 1: and then I'll continue. You're listening to Shades of the
Speaker 1: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Hair
Speaker 1: on Normal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 1: I'm Sanders Champlain and we are talking about spirit guides.
Speaker 1: And in this last segment, what I want to do
Speaker 1: is just finished telling you that story about what happened
Speaker 1: at the Arthur of Finlay College, and then I want
Speaker 1: to give you some practical tips to be in touch
Speaker 1: with your spirit guide. And these tips will also work
Speaker 1: with communicating with your loved ones. All right, So to
Speaker 1: finish my story, last I left you is I was
Speaker 1: sitting in a big circle of people with my eyes
Speaker 1: closed with the intention of blending in trans mediumship and
Speaker 1: delivering some words of inspiration. So after quite a while
Speaker 1: with my eyes closed, I just said, Spirit wants to
Speaker 1: tell you, and then as amazing as this sounds, words
Speaker 1: started just flooding out of my mouth. The more I
Speaker 1: tried to pay attention to the words, the words stopped.
Speaker 1: The more I went back to just paying attention to
Speaker 1: my breathing, the words continued. So we'll get into it
Speaker 1: in a minute. How important it is to be in
Speaker 1: the present moment. But I don't know how long I
Speaker 1: was kind of out of it, but I just let
Speaker 1: the words flow, and I felt very animated by a
Speaker 1: male personality felt older to me. And what was very
Speaker 1: interesting is as this person was telling a story through
Speaker 1: I very much felt my body turning and moving as
Speaker 1: if I was leaning forward, as if I was looking
Speaker 1: at every person in that circle. And I just kept turning,
Speaker 1: looking around the circle and delivering the story. While at
Speaker 1: some point the story ended, I felt myself leaned back
Speaker 1: in the chair, and then after some time several minutes,
Speaker 1: I opened my eyes and when I opened my eyes,
Speaker 1: the people in the circle were drawing their eyes. They
Speaker 1: were very touched by the words that were spoken. The
Speaker 1: instructor asked me, how was that for you, and I
Speaker 1: explained how weird it was when I tried to concentrate
Speaker 1: on the words. They stopped, and she said that was
Speaker 1: absolutely natural, because we need to be in that present
Speaker 1: moment for them to work through us. And then I
Speaker 1: explained how weird it felt that I moved around so much,
Speaker 1: looking at everybody, leaning back and forth in my chair,
Speaker 1: and that's when people looked at me, and they said, Sandra,
Speaker 1: you remained perfectly still that entire time. Oh. I get
Speaker 1: goosebumps just telling you that story, because there is this
Speaker 1: love that we each have that flows through us. Why
Speaker 1: they were crying and drawing their tears is because there
Speaker 1: was a story about being a sailor on an expedition
Speaker 1: across a mighty ocean with all the ups and downs
Speaker 1: and fear and twists and dark skies and rain and
Speaker 1: giant waves and all of that. And it was to
Speaker 1: pay attention to the journey, not the destination, and what
Speaker 1: we can learn from the journey. Something like that was
Speaker 1: what the message was. So it was very moved and
Speaker 1: I was very proud of myself for raising my hand
Speaker 1: and doing something that I was scared to do. Our
Speaker 1: dreams coming true is on the other side of our
Speaker 1: comfort zone, so the present moment is of vital importance.
Speaker 1: It's the way our loved ones get through to us.
Speaker 1: It's the way the spirit guides and friends get through
Speaker 1: to us. It's where answers come to us. It's where
Speaker 1: healing takes place, and it's hard to do. It's like
Speaker 1: building a muscle, and even no matter how much you
Speaker 1: build the muscle, it's still hard to get there. The
Speaker 1: best thing I can do for you and me to
Speaker 1: recommend that we get in touch with our spirit guides
Speaker 1: and our loved ones is to do the following practice. Now.
Speaker 1: I do think it's important that we journal this because
Speaker 1: our imagination absolutely does kick in. But if we keep
Speaker 1: track of the times we sit, you'll start seeing patterns
Speaker 1: to things. Or there might be a familiar face that
Speaker 1: keeps showing up, someone you don't know, someone you've never seen,
Speaker 1: and if they keep presenting themselves over and over, that
Speaker 1: might tend to be somebody who's supporting you in unseen world.
Speaker 1: You have to have an intention. Is it a loved
Speaker 1: one that you want to work with or do you
Speaker 1: want to develop a relationship with your spirit guides? And
Speaker 1: while I say there could be one main spirit guide,
Speaker 1: I was reminded in between our break here when I
Speaker 1: did a little research that my instructor from the Arthur
Speaker 1: Finlay College said there could be hundreds of spirit guides
Speaker 1: and one main voice. When I do the Friday trans
Speaker 1: demonstrations with Scott, what mister Eric says is that he
Speaker 1: speaks on behalf of many. What I think is most
Speaker 1: important is that we all realize that we have this
Speaker 1: unseen world of help available to us, and not only that,
Speaker 1: we have a very powerful soul. So to distinguish, Oh,
Speaker 1: is it my spirit guide or is it my soul?
Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters, because I think you're
Speaker 1: going to be moved with the goosebumps with some of
Speaker 1: the results you juice. So if you close your eyes
Speaker 1: and you can do this now, I'm going to do
Speaker 1: it quickly, but you can practice this one the episode
Speaker 1: is over. You close your eyes and you set that intention.
Speaker 1: It really is just a asking from your heart that
Speaker 1: you connect with either your loved one or your spirit
Speaker 1: guide or inspirers that are in the unseen world who
Speaker 1: love you unconditionally. You set that little prayer of intention
Speaker 1: and just set it aside. And what I like to
Speaker 1: do is imagine that there's this golden light inside, and
Speaker 1: as the light grows and gets brighter, just imagine it
Speaker 1: pouring out of your pores and just filling the entire room.
Speaker 1: What my instructor said at the Arthur Findley College was
Speaker 1: to imagine a very bright blue light off in the distance,
Speaker 1: and this can be the light of the universe of God.
Speaker 1: Whoever your higher power is that is just overlooking everything
Speaker 1: and to invite in your spirit guides. And for me,
Speaker 1: I would imagine these golden lights that would just come
Speaker 1: in and settle in the space around me, getting closer
Speaker 1: and closer and closer, and just let their lights blend
Speaker 1: with your lights, and you can say, if there is
Speaker 1: anything you want to tell me, I'm here to receive
Speaker 1: anything you want to show me, any messages you have
Speaker 1: for me. But the important thing is to just quiet
Speaker 1: your mind, pay attention to your breathing, and just let go.
Speaker 1: And you may find doing this there's thoughts that come
Speaker 1: in words that come in pictures that come into your mind,
Speaker 1: and as easy as it is to try to latch
Speaker 1: onto them and think about them, that turns off the
Speaker 1: flow of communication. So just let them come in and
Speaker 1: let them go. And when you're done, you can simply
Speaker 1: open your eyes and you can write down in your
Speaker 1: journal what you experienced. Pay attention to your feelings. There
Speaker 1: could be feelings of love that come in. Now, if
Speaker 1: you want to work with your loved one, you do
Speaker 1: the same thing. You set that intention. But what I
Speaker 1: find is most helpful is, yes, you can imagine them
Speaker 1: walking into your area of light. But also remember some
Speaker 1: of the great times you've had together, the loving times.
Speaker 1: Ignite that feeling of love that you had together, and
Speaker 1: then just sit there in the silence. You may find
Speaker 1: that there's images and more memories that come in. You
Speaker 1: may feel a hug, you may feel the goosebumps. You
Speaker 1: may feel a little kiss on your cheek or on
Speaker 1: your forehead or on the top of your head. This
Speaker 1: all takes time, and it takes practice. Remember, just like
Speaker 1: building a muscle. Another thing that I think you really
Speaker 1: enjoy doing is set the intention, just like we did
Speaker 1: for either the loved one or for your spirit guides.
Speaker 1: But have a piece of paper or a notebook, your
Speaker 1: journal andy, and maybe you have a question you have
Speaker 1: for them. After you sit for a while, let your
Speaker 1: hand start writing. There will be some words that come
Speaker 1: into your mind. And if no words show up, you
Speaker 1: can start the ball rolling by writing down some words.
Speaker 1: But then just listen in to what words come from
Speaker 1: your soul and write them as you hear them, and
Speaker 1: you may just find What I found is that after
Speaker 1: you write them all out and read them, they are
Speaker 1: some pretty profound words. If you have the intention of
Speaker 1: working with your loved one, same thing, talk to them,
Speaker 1: imagine their love, and write again. In the beginning could
Speaker 1: be ninety nine percent one percent them. But the more
Speaker 1: you practice and the more you sit, the more experiences
Speaker 1: you'll have of this connection. I want to let you
Speaker 1: in on a little secret. You don't have to just
Speaker 1: do this with your eyes closed. The more you close
Speaker 1: your eyes and sit, the more it charges a battery
Speaker 1: between here and the unseen world. But during the day,
Speaker 1: keep your mind in the present moment as best possible.
Speaker 1: Try not to be distracted by thoughts. Stay in the
Speaker 1: present moment to whatever it is you're doing, and don't
Speaker 1: be surprised if some ideas come to your mind, some words,
Speaker 1: and remember they're going to sound like your voice, that
Speaker 1: is the voice of the unseen world. If you're interested
Speaker 1: in exploring this more, I was at the Arthur Findlay
Speaker 1: College in June of twenty and eighteen, and I found
Speaker 1: in our Facebook group seven videos of what was experienced.
Speaker 1: So you can follow along and you can do all
Speaker 1: of the exercises. If you're not part of our Facebook
Speaker 1: group yet, go to We Don't Die dot com. The
Speaker 1: top of the page says Facebook group. Join it once
Speaker 1: you're in it. Just beneath where it says recent media,
Speaker 1: you can click on see all, then click on videos
Speaker 1: and then scroll to the bottom. I have really long
Speaker 1: hair in these videos, and so you'll see me with
Speaker 1: the long hair and also with my eyes closed, and
Speaker 1: you'll see those of the videos from June twenty and eighteen.
Speaker 1: You may also want to go to Amazon and type
Speaker 1: in Tony Stockwell Spirit Guide. He's got a great audio
Speaker 1: download that you can get, and he also has a
Speaker 1: great trance CD. Also, every Friday you can witness Scott
Speaker 1: Milligan doing this trance speaking and also join him and
Speaker 1: myself on one of our live classes that happen every week.
Speaker 1: And of course we have our free Sunday gathering with
Speaker 1: a medium demonstration online. If you need more details and
Speaker 1: you can't find them at We Don't Die dot com,
Speaker 1: just send me an email, Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: I just want to remind you that around you is
Speaker 1: so much unseen love from your loved ones, from your guides,
Speaker 1: and you have a very divine soul working on your
Speaker 1: behalf also, so let's all just build that relationship with
Speaker 1: those that love us, that are right next to us.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for listening and we'll talk
Speaker 1: again soon. You've been listening to Shades of the Afterlife
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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