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Hi, I'm Sandra Schamplain. 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: For almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: to prove the existence of life after death. Each episode 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: ones have survived physical death and so will we. Welcome 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. There has been a lot 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: coming up in my radar screen about spirit guides. You know, 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: these beings that unconditionally love us, that were with us 20 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: before we were born, that walk by our side and 21 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: love us more than any human being possibly could. Yeah, 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: those people spirit guides. I don't think of them much, 23 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: and honestly, I don't always take my own advice. Can 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: you believe it? While I'm human too, However, I do 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: believe in them. But I personally have never taken time 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: to form a relationship with whoever that person or those 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: people are that walk with me. But a lot has 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: come into my radar screen, so to speak, this past week, 29 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, actually about spirit guides. I thought 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: we do a little bit of investigation. Who they are, 31 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: what they're about, what they do for us, and how 32 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: we can get into communication with them. Let me start 33 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: with the most recent thing that happened was this past Saturday, 34 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: I had lunch with my dear friend ROBERTA. Grimes. Now 35 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: you may know her. She is the author of the 36 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Fun of Dying. I've interviewed her on this show. She's 37 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: a business attorney in a long time afterlife explorer. She's 38 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: got many many books out and she's got the website 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: sekreality dot com. She's also got the Seek Reality podcast 40 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of great episodes. When 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: we met for lunch, she was talking to me about 42 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: her books and how it doesn't feel like she wrote them, 43 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: it feels like she channeled them. Now, this isn't the 44 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: first time I've heard that expression, that people feel so 45 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: much on autopilot that the words flow out of them 46 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: as if someone else had written them. So when I 47 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: talked to her a little bit more about it, she 48 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: spoke about her guide. His name is Thomas, And I said, 49 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: quite honestly, well, I don't really know who my guides are. 50 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: And she seemed a little surprised. You know, me who's 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: been involved in afterlife research for so long. Well, she 52 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: said she's developed such a relationship with her main guide, 53 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: this is Thomas, that over the years she's come to 54 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: learn what is him and what is her voice speaking. 55 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: We all have a soul, we are all very powerful. 56 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: We can all come up with some really great things 57 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: and some great ideas. And is it our soul or 58 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: is it one of these spirit guides? She said with 59 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: her the voice first started coming out as her own voice, 60 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: but it was these grand ideas and things that she 61 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: normally wouldn't have thought of. And as time and on, 62 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: and through lots of conversation. In her conversation, this guide 63 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: presented himself started speaking with a more male voice as Thomas. 64 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: She says, the way she distinguishes now what is her 65 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: internal voice and what is her Thomas is? She says, 66 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: it's just over her left shoulder and back when he 67 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: speaks to her. That's the area it seems to come from, 68 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: this voice, and everything else that happens is within her 69 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: own head. But she says he draws attention to things. 70 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: He tells her what projects she needs to work on next. 71 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: When she's writing a book, he's right there putting in 72 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: his thoughts and his words, And she says sometimes she 73 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: even has to look up the words in a dictionary 74 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: to make sure they are words, and a lot of 75 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: them are old words that haven't been used in a 76 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: long time. Roberta is a smart cookie. She is very intelligent. 77 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: She's very skeptical, and so to hear the story from her, 78 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: there's credibility to it. Now. Also on my radar screen 79 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: here is our friend Scott Milligan who every Friday does 80 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: a demonstration of trance mediumship and through him speaks a 81 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: voice a person by the name of Eric, completely different personality, 82 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: voice and everything as Scott. And I've known Scott for 83 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: now about six years and he is a completely different 84 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: person than this Eric. And when Eric speaks, he speaks 85 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: in an old English voice, uses words that we don't 86 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: hear too much these days. And you can ask him 87 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: a question about anything. He never misses a beat, never 88 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: does an or let me think about it, or that 89 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: hesitation that we do as humans. He is smooth talking. 90 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: He can answer any question about life, death, in the 91 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: afterlife again without missing a beat. So we host online classes, 92 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: as you know, and one of them, Scott was talking 93 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: about meeting our spirit guides. So for me it's like, okay, 94 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: here's spirit guides coming up again. And on a meditation 95 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: that he did or leading us in this sitting and 96 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: quieting of the mind, he had us imagine the love 97 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: from our parents or whoever is no longer walking on 98 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: this earth with us, someone who is deceased, and had 99 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: us really envision and feel a memory of being close 100 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: to them. And it is his belief, as with many others, 101 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: that the way to connect with our loved ones is 102 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: through the language of emotion, So closing your eyes and 103 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: having a memory and really feeling the love that kind 104 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: of is the gateway to open up that conversation with them. 105 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: And what they do is, you know, some of them, yes, 106 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: can learn how to flicker light switches on and off 107 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: and put messages on cell phones and things like that, 108 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: but for most they retain their personality. Someone who is 109 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: soft spoken and quiet and lets everybody speak before her 110 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: would have been my grandmother, So it's no wonder that 111 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: in all these years since she's passed about fourteen now, 112 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: that she's only come through a couple of times, that 113 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: was her personality. And then you get my dad, who 114 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: was well, I don't want to say he was entertaining. 115 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: He wasn't, but he was very vocal with his beliefs. 116 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: I'll put it to you that way. Great guy. Everybody 117 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: loved him, very very positive. So it's no wonder he's 118 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: like the first on the scene. And of course I 119 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: love them both very much, different personalities. So in this 120 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: meditation we were doing with Scott, I imagined some time 121 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: I spent with my dad, and what came first to 122 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: mind is when I spent so many days holding his 123 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: hand in the hospital room before he asked, we had 124 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: such a great connection. I would bring in my computer 125 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: and two headsets, and we would watch movies and tell 126 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: stories and do whatever was possible to pay attention to 127 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: something positive instead of him concentrating on the pain that 128 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 1: he was feeling. I remembered those times with my dad 129 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: and just that pure love that I felt for him, 130 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: and it was almost like this whish that came through, 131 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: and all kinds of other memories just get implanted in 132 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: my mind, almost like a slide show. Now, my brain 133 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: can't come up with things that fast, so it is 134 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: trusting that this is my dad coming through. I could 135 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: feel a hug, I could feel his presence, I could 136 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: feel what it was like to hold his hand. These 137 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: are all very subtle things, and yes it's easy to 138 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: think this is our imagination, but like any muscle that 139 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: we want to develop, we have to strengthen it. So 140 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: the more times we do that there, our loved one 141 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: is like, hey, they're really trying to get through to me. 142 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: Let me try. From my end two, well, during this meditation, 143 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: Scott had asked our loved one to introduce us to 144 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: our spirit guide. Now, I wish I could tell you 145 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, VOILA, this most wonderful spirit 146 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: guide was there with me, but it didn't happen that way. 147 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: My rational brain kicked in and said, hey, wait a minute, 148 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: Wait a minute. The way we human beings work is 149 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: when we want an answer to something, something will show 150 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: up in our mind, whether we put it there or 151 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: the other world puts it there. So let me ask 152 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: you a question. Right now. Think of a color and boom, 153 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: you probably thought of one. I just thought of purple. 154 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: Think of a number, Boom, there you got one, right, Well, 155 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: my mind just came up with fourteen. Think of someone 156 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: you love that's no longer walking this earth. Boom, there 157 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: they are, right, And my mind saw my grandmother. Does 158 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: it mean that my grandmother's not there? No, but something 159 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: like this, when we're trying to picture something on demand, 160 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: I really think our imagination can kick in. So if 161 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: I were to say, imagine your spirit guide right now, 162 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: you know you may have somebody from history. Abraham Lincoln 163 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: just popped into my mind, a president of the United States. 164 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Does it mean he's not there cheering me on? Well? 165 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: Who knows, you know. But I don't think this is 166 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: the right way to access our spirit guides. Not saying 167 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: that Scott's method doesn't work. I do think, the more 168 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: times I relax and allow my mind to just be 169 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: present and feel the love and feel that intention say, 170 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: the more times the same person starts coming in, the 171 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: more times it might be, Hey, you might be here 172 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: guiding me. There may be many people guiding us as well. 173 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: It's said that we all have a main spirit person 174 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: that has walked this earth, who is there before we 175 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: are born. We discuss how we're going to play this 176 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: game called life, and they're the first to greet us 177 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: when we return home. And it's also said that depending 178 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: on what we have going on in our life, spirit 179 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: guides come and go. So if you start a new 180 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: project and you suddenly decide you want to paint something, 181 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: and you buy yourself a canvas and some oil paints, 182 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: and you maybe have a course online that you're following, now, 183 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: there's a good chance that a spirit guide who's got 184 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: some skill in art might step in. Have you ever 185 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: felt like you were in the zone so present to 186 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: something that time goes by and you don't even realize it. Well, 187 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: I think those are some of the times that our 188 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: guides come in and that our soul is on fire 189 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: in a good way. So I really want to use 190 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: our time together today investigating our spirit guides, and by 191 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: the end of the episode, have a practice that we 192 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: can all do to build this relationship. Now, the truth is, 193 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: we may never know who they are, we may never 194 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: have a name, we may never know if their male 195 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: or their female. But what we will all know is 196 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: that right by your side, standing there with a big 197 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: old smile, is someone who loves you so unconditionally, more 198 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: than any human being ever has, someone who has walked 199 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: every step with you, someone who has taken every breath 200 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: with you, someone who has given their soul's existence to 201 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: make your life better. So again, by the end, we're 202 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: going to be open to this and also start a 203 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: conversation with them, an ongoing one. So we're going to 204 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: go into our very first break, and when we come back, 205 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm want to tell you some of the things I 206 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: know and some of the really wonderful experiences I've had. 207 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 208 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back 209 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain, and we 210 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: are talking about spirit guides. When I spoke earlier about 211 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: Scott Milligan having this Eric who speaks through him. He's 212 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: also got a Native American called morning Star, a young 213 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: fellow named Daniel, and so many more. There are what's 214 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: called guides. There are also friends and helpers. I do 215 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: believe there's angels and there are our loved ones. Now 216 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about angels. The first thoughts I have 217 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: of these spirit helpers, and maybe you experience this too, 218 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: are these parking lot angels, some being that would help 219 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: you find a parking space. If you get to a 220 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: busy mall or shopping center, you just ask your angel 221 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: help me find a spot, and voila, there is a spot. Now. 222 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: I have done this from time to time, haven't always 223 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: found a spot, but I never really gave it too 224 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: much credibility. A lot of people completely believe in this. 225 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: It's very possible that there are these angels helping us out, 226 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: but they also may be known as our spirit guides. Now, 227 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: when somebody works through Scott through trance mediumship, he says 228 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: that they are his friends, not so much their guides. 229 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: These are people that work with him to help spread 230 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: inspiration to the masses, and that they do. They really 231 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: do bring so much comfort. And hope and really great conversations. 232 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: The guides can remain more quiet in the background, but 233 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: they're always there. I think just knowing that we have 234 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: this team of invisible beings, these people, is amazing to me. 235 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: So it's not just our guides, it is these friends 236 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: that can help us with different things in life, perhaps 237 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: angelic beings who have never come here before. And then, 238 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: as a real bonus, our loved ones. Now. Our loved 239 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: ones are busy, they have their lives to live, They're 240 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: still learning and growing on the other side, but they 241 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: are absolutely only a thought away. In fact, they could 242 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: be busy doing one thing and then pop over and 243 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: be with you. It's amazing some of the evidence that 244 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: I hear in the demonstrations of mediumship, just how close 245 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: they are and what they witness. One of the first 246 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: times that I saw these friends in action and learned 247 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: about trance mediumship is when I took a trip to 248 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: the Arthur Finlay College in the UK with my friend Darla. 249 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: And Darla I had met back on a workshop years 250 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: and years ago. I love her dearly. She's always interested 251 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: in trying new things and she always has a foot 252 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: into mediumship and all kinds of artistic things. She's really 253 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: great exploring her passions. But we decided to go to 254 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: the Arthur Finlay College and it has been Oh the 255 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: building itself has been in existence for hundreds and hundreds 256 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: of years, but it is the foremost place to go 257 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: when one is considering psychic studies. There are different tutors 258 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: there that come around. Each week there's someone new. They're 259 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: goodhearted people, all based in the truth that we are 260 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: spiritual beings having a human experience, that are loved ones 261 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: go on, and that there's a way to get in 262 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: touch with them. The Great Gordon Higginson is one of 263 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: the people that are responsible for having the Arthur Finlay 264 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: College be here present day old Arthur Finley. Back in 265 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: the day he and Gertrude Finlay witnessed some amazing mediumship 266 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: and they gave their home, which is a massive mansion 267 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: a state. I mean, it's huge. They gave this so 268 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: that people could continue studying and learning about the afterlife. 269 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful old place and if you think of 270 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: the movie Harry Potter, one of those kind of places 271 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: is what I think of when I think of the 272 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: Arthur Finlay College. When we went to the College. We 273 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: went for a week. We pre arranged to take this 274 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: general mediumship course, and when we got there, they divvied 275 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: us up between how much a mediumship experience we had. 276 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: And although I had taken a few small courses in 277 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: the past, I really felt like I was a beginner. 278 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: You know. I still feel like I'm a beginner, even 279 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: though I've taken lots of classes. There's always more to explore. 280 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Darla was in a different class because she had more 281 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: experience than I did, and we would learn how our 282 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: psychic faculty works and what mediumship is, and it's using 283 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: our psychic faculty, and instead of working with human to human, 284 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: it's working human to someone who's no longer walking this earth. 285 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: So it was pretty extraordinary. I was so passionate about 286 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: what I learned. That's one of the reasons why we 287 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: do the online mediumship classes with the great tutors, Carry 288 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: McLeod and Philip Dike's They've both stemmed from Gordon Higginson's 289 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: mediumship and they can both teach on this way, you know, 290 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: which really does tap into I think the best evidence 291 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: that our loved ones are around. So during this class, 292 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: they also offered an extra class we could do, and 293 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: there were choices from trance mediumship to recordings like electronic 294 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: voice phenomena and things like that. The night before I 295 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: had witnessed Eileen Davies, who's another great trance medium do 296 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: trance mediumship. And I tell you what, I couldn't even 297 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: believe what I experienced. This woman sat in the sanctuary 298 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the inside of a church, on 299 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: the altar, so to speak, and she had two ladies 300 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: by her side. She closed her eyes. There were a 301 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: couple of songs played, and then yes, the voice of 302 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: someone else spoke through her. It was an Asian gentleman 303 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: with beautiful inspiration. The second voice that came through was 304 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: a friend, more like a voice that Eileen spoke with, 305 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: and she has a British accent. The third voice that 306 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: came through was someone called Ula, someone who had been 307 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: a slave in the Deep South, who had a really 308 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: strong Southern American accent from those days, filled with personality. 309 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: She was talking to the audience. Even though Eileen's eyes 310 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: were closed, she could still see the people in front 311 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: of her and talk to them, and it was amazing. 312 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: So when I could choose an extra class, what I 313 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: really wanted to choose was this transmediumship. However, because I 314 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: had no experience and I was a beginner, they put 315 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: me in the class with the electronic voice phenomena in 316 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: using our phones to capture lights and things like that. 317 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: It was interesting, but I have to be honest with you, 318 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: my heart was broken because I really wanted to explore 319 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: what this transmediumship was all about. When I returned home, though, 320 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Darla had told me about a medium by the name 321 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: of Tony Stockwell, and I had not heard of him 322 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: at that time. So I checked out on YouTube and 323 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: there are tons and tons and tons of demonstrations that 324 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: he had done publicly when he was younger. I mean, 325 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: he was right on giving information about loved ones who 326 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: were deceased. Now picture this deep in my soul. I 327 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: want to learn more about transmediumship, and all of a sudden, 328 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: I am finding out about this amazing medium called Tony Stockwell. 329 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: There's a place in Rhinebeck, New York called the Omega 330 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: Center where I had my first experiences capturing electronic voice phenomena, 331 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: and I felt like I wanted to go back. So 332 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: there was just that little tug on my soul. Now, 333 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: was it my spirit guide? Was it my soul speaking 334 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: to me? I don't know. But I had one weekend free. 335 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: I went to the Omega website to see who was 336 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: teaching that weekend, and guess what I saw? Tony Stockwell 337 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: teaching a class in trance mediumship. Now I can't make 338 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: this stuff up. These are the times that I feel 339 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: like I'm divinely guided. And it's not just me, it's 340 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: you two. Have you had times in your life that 341 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: you get this pull or you've got this synchronicity that happens, 342 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: and you just have this feeling like I was meant 343 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: to be here. Well, I felt like I was meant 344 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: to go to that Tony Stockwell weekend, and sure enough 345 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: I did. It was the place where everybody was accepted, 346 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: no matter what experience you had or you didn't have. 347 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: And Tony talked about us all having these beings that 348 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: are around us that work with us. Guides is what 349 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: he called them, and he said they can work through us, 350 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: they can provide inspiration to ourselves and to others, and 351 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: how important it is to build up a relationship with them. 352 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, could you imagine standing by someone's side for 353 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: an entire lifetime in them, not even talking to you, 354 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: and you continually giving them love and support. And what 355 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: would it be like to have that person all of 356 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: a sudden say hey, I know you're around, I can't 357 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: quite see you, I don't know your name, but thank you. 358 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: And to build that relationship, I think more and more 359 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: and more things would come. So in the class with 360 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Tony Stockwell, we had different experiences of closing our eyes 361 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: and letting Tony guide us into that place of being 362 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: totally still and then with a loving thought, whoever it 363 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: is that's working with us, if they would like to 364 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: step into our presence. Now, they don't take us over, 365 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: they don't. It is just a blending of energies. So 366 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: I'm always quite aware that I'm still Sandra, but the 367 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: goosebumps would start, you know, like Patrick Swayze stepping into 368 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: Whoopi Goldberg in the movie Ghost. You know, I wasn't 369 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: convinced that this wasn't my imagination. There was a great 370 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: exercise that we got to do. So I was with 371 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: these two ladies that I didn't know, and Tony said, 372 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: we want each one of you to have practice being 373 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: the medium and letting someone speak through you. Now I 374 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: had never done this before and the two ladies had. 375 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: So I was a little intimidated, but I am of 376 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: the thought that I would rather get something done first 377 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: than sit there in fear. I closed my eyes. Tony 378 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: let us to this very quiet place. He also said, 379 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: you can get the ball rolling by saying spirit wants 380 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: to tell you, and then whatever comes out of your mouth. 381 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: So it takes some time, so it's not as easy 382 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: as just closing your eyes and these great words of 383 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: wisdom come out. In fact, there are some people that 384 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: are fraudulent channelers transmediums out there that will simply close 385 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: their eyes and all of a sudden speak as if 386 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: there's someone else be wary of that. It takes a 387 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: good ten minutes or so of really having that person 388 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: quiet their mind before this happens. And with that, with 389 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: my eyes closed, I literally felt the presence of a 390 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: woman who was wearing like a whalebone corset. Felt like 391 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: I was wearing these old shoes from the eighteen hundreds. 392 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: I had a bun in my hair, and I was older. 393 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: I felt like I had a gray dress on and 394 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: it was very interesting. But again I didn't know if 395 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: this was my imagination, so I just start out speaking. 396 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: I said, spirit wants to say, And I have to 397 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: tell you it was like this whoosh that came through me. 398 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: All these words started coming out of my mouth, very 399 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: very powerful, and I kind of shocked myself. So I 400 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: stopped and I opened my eyes and I'm like, okay, 401 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: what do you guys? Goes next? Something came over me 402 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: in a beautiful way, filled with power, filled with almost 403 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: like women's rights. That's what I would have to say. 404 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: That woman felt like she was in those times. Anyways, 405 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: incredible experience. So I want to tell you what happened next, 406 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: but of course we have a break. You're listening to 407 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 408 00:25:41,560 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of 409 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain and we are talking about 410 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: spirit guides. Where I last left this conversation was after 411 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: my very first experience with trans mediumship, sitting with two 412 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: ladies I didn't know, closing my eyes for a good 413 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: solid ten minutes or so, and out of my own 414 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: mouth came some very profound words, words that were empowering 415 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: to these women about what it was to be a woman, 416 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: about how to stand up for themselves and things like that. 417 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: Now I couldn't pay attention to the words, because if 418 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: I did, the words would stop. But I certainly felt 419 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: the presence of this woman, as if I was wearing 420 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: the gray dress and the whalebone corset and these old 421 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: timer shoes. When I opened my eyes, these women were 422 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: very emotional. It was like just the words they needed 423 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: to hear. And for me, it was amazing experience. Just 424 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: knowing that there's people or a person this close nearby 425 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: that is so empowering. Now I want to warn you 426 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: against something because in my discoveries, there's some really great people, 427 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: but there's also some crazies. I was at a conference 428 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: and this gentleman really wanted to give me a reading, 429 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: so to speak. And I didn't know quite who he was. 430 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: I thought he was some kind of a trance medium. 431 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: He sat on the couch next to me, he threw 432 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: his head back. All of a sudden, he straightened up. 433 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: He started staring into my eyes and making all these 434 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: kind of weird gestures with his face, and his significant 435 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: other was saying that he was channeling the Virgin Mary, 436 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: and you know what, I just didn't quite buy it. 437 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: I was freaked out. I was uncomfortable. But what did 438 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: I decide to do, because you know we all have 439 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: that inner BS detector. Instead of backing down what I did? 440 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: I straightened up and I went right face to face 441 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: with him and looked right into his eyes. The next thing, 442 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, his eyes closed. He threw his head back 443 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: on the couch. He opened his eyes again and said, oh, 444 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm back. You know what, for me, that wasn't proof 445 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: of anything. When people come through Guide's Friends, whatever you 446 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: want to call them, there needs to be an intelligence. 447 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: It cannot insult you by any means. There needs to 448 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: be words that touch your soul as if sent by 449 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: God and so to speak, or the truth. There should 450 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: never be words that hurt you, make you feel uncomfortable, 451 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: make you feel upset. Really, you are a very powerful soul. 452 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Let things resonate within you. There are people out there 453 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: on the internet charging some big sums of money to 454 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: do demonstrations even private readings this way, and because it's 455 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: different and unique, it's very easy for people to think 456 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: it's real. But again, let it bounce off your inner 457 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: BS detector. If it resonates like the truth and it 458 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: makes you happy, yeah, go for it. So as my 459 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: journey continued, you know, somewhere in this time, I took 460 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: a trip to Bannion Retreat in the UK and that's 461 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: where I met our friend Scott Milligan and first got 462 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: to see him demonstrate his trance mediumship with the different 463 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: friends that speak through him. I was left with such 464 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: an urge to find out more about this, so I 465 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: took a course back in the UK at the Arthur 466 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: Finlay College. Took my friend Darla with me and she 467 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: took another course, and every night I would just report 468 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: in on what I learned. I did the experiments between 469 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: different people in the class and myself, and what I 470 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: witnessed was really profound about other people having these powerful 471 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: voices coming through them. I have a lot of fear 472 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: within me, and as human beings, we don't want to 473 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: feel stupid or look silly or anything like that. I 474 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: think I was a little too on edge, a little 475 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: too high strung to totally relax into it. But there 476 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: were definitely sometimes working one on one with someone that 477 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: I felt a presence of someone come through me and speak. Now, 478 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: what the instructor said is that we are souls having 479 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: a human experience. Of course, our souls are divine and 480 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: they're very intelligent. And what she said is when you speak, 481 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: you may think it's someone else, but it may be 482 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: your own soul. So this was the first time I 483 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: started thinking, oh, I've got an intelligent soul. If you 484 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: take away the part of our humanity that has the 485 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: ego right, that wants to look good, doesn't want to 486 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: look bad, has all the fears, if you take away 487 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: the part that thinks that this earth is all there is, 488 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: and you get reconnected with that part of yourself that 489 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: knows there's a bigger picture, that knows you came from 490 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: a place and you're having this journey on earth, that 491 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: knows that you're here to learn and you're here to grow, 492 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: sees the biggest perspective of your life. Well, there's your soul. 493 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: And so your soul is very, very wise. So some 494 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: of these times, she was saying, when you close your 495 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: eyes and you do this blending in allowing someone who 496 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: wishes to work through you to be able to speak, 497 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: she says, sometimes it is your own soul. She says, 498 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: in fact, in the beginning, that could be nine Sandra 499 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: mixed in with her soul and maybe one percent someone 500 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: from the spirit world or a guide. The idea is 501 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: to practice to be comfortable, to spend lots of time 502 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: doing what's called sitting in the power, closing your eyes 503 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: without expecting anything out of it, just saying I'm here 504 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: in service, I want to learn, i want to develop, 505 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: close your eyes, take several deep breaths, zone out, get 506 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: to that place of nothingness if you can, with that 507 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: loving intent to connect with that unseen world, and when 508 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: the time is right, things happened. But in class we 509 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: did some exercises with inspirational writing. So we would close 510 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: our eyes and we would do this blending and quieting down, 511 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: and then someone would ask a question, and in our 512 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: notebooks we would just allow whatever thoughts came to mind 513 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: to be written. And so with that there were thoughts 514 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: that seem, I don't want to really say divinely written, 515 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: but they were pretty inspirational. I can say that there 516 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: were things that came out of my pen on paper 517 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: that I too had to look up the meaning of 518 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: the words. I didn't know if they were really words, 519 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: but it seemed to flow when my pen was writing. 520 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: And when I say when my pen was writing, I 521 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: was aware, I was alert, but I wasn't consciously creating words. 522 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: I was just allowing words that were showing up in 523 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: my mind to flow through the pen and onto the paper. 524 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: One thing I want to say, also, I had mentioned 525 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: this a little bit earlier, that people don't take us over. 526 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: You know, this is a subtle blending of energies. This 527 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: is not like The Exorcist or anything that was a movie, 528 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: a scary movie. This is love coming from the unseen world, 529 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: which is all love. In the twenty five years I've 530 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: been into this, I've never looked for paid attention to 531 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: the weird, crazy, evil things. And you know what, none 532 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: of that has ever shown up. Not saying it's not 533 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: out there and not saying there aren't little green men 534 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: on Mars and all of those different things. But I'm 535 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: in the game of helping people through grief, helping people 536 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: believe in the much bigger picture about the afterlife being 537 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: real and us being powerful souls. So what we learned 538 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: at the Arthur Finlay College is you do not need 539 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: to do a prayer of protection from evil spirits. There 540 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: are none now. If you don't believe me, you can 541 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: still do a little prayer of protection if you want. 542 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: If you want to picture yourself inside of a beautiful 543 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: bubble that only good, loving things are there. You can 544 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: certainly do that it won't hurt anything. And with my 545 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: trip to the Arthur Finlay College, I left there excited, 546 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 1: but I almost feel like I didn't get my money's worth, 547 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: not because of them, but because of my own fears. 548 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: So what did I do? I booked another trip and 549 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: this time I went all by myself. There wasn't a 550 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: single person there except for the instructor who knew who 551 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: I was. And so I said, if not here where, 552 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 1: you know, this is my opportunity to really put myself in. 553 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: And during our experience, every time we did an exercise, 554 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: I played full out. I closed my eyes. I did 555 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: my very very best to quiet my mind. And that's 556 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: what you need to do to let them latch hold 557 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: of you. You know, this might be a bad comparison, 558 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: but when I think of fighter jets and they're aiming 559 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: a missile, so to speak, you know they've got to 560 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: lock the target. And for our spirit friend to join 561 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: with us, our mind has to be quiet enough so 562 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: they can lock targets on us and be able to 563 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: work with us. And again, they're just working with our energy. 564 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: They're not using us, they're not taking over us. We're 565 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: very much aware that we are still in body, so 566 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: don't worry about that. One of the most wonderful things 567 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: that happened was, well, I'll give you a few one. 568 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: We did lots of exercises of inspirational writing. Like I 569 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: had just told you about. We did exercises where we 570 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: would work with a partner and we would have the 571 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: intention to blend with their loved one and write something 572 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: just for them. And in those experiences, boy, I really 573 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: felt like I was a or a dad, or a 574 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: child or a sister, and the words that would come 575 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: out of my pen, it turned out, were just what 576 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: they needed to hear. There was trance healing, where the 577 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: spirit people can actually use our energy when we're in 578 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: that special zone and send a healing to another person. 579 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: Something really spectacular that I witnessed was the instructor would 580 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: go into trance and she would allow someone's loved one 581 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: to talk through her. And again this was kind of 582 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: like the movie Ghost, but on two occasions I saw 583 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: her speaking still her own voice, but giving the most 584 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: beautiful messages to the two students. One was from a 585 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: mother and one was from a father and there are 586 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: things no one else could know, and it had all 587 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: of us one hundred percent in tears. That was special. 588 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: And then just before we left, on the very last 589 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: few hours of class, the instructor said, is there anyone 590 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: here that would like to attempt to sit for the 591 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: entire class? And you know what, as scared as I was, 592 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: I raised my hand. So there was a group of 593 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: about twenty five of us in a circle, and they 594 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: were all sending me loving energy, you know, as one does. 595 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: And I sat there, closed my eyes with everything that 596 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: I learned from class, and just said, if I'm meant 597 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: to be used as a messenger, you know, I'm here 598 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: to serve. And after however many minutes, I just opened 599 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: my mouth and said, spirit wants to say. And what 600 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: flooded out from me was some kind of a story 601 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm told later about the journey of life. And it 602 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: was about crossing an ocean and the boat and the 603 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: moon and the stars. And while the words were coming 604 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: out of my mouth, I couldn't pay attention to them, 605 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: or else the words would stop, so I would have 606 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: to just pay attention to my breathing and the words 607 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: would continue. We've got to fit in a quick break 608 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: and then I'll continue. You're listening to Shades of the 609 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 1: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Hair 610 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: on Normal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 611 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm Sanders Champlain and we are talking about spirit guides. 612 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: And in this last segment, what I want to do 613 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: is just finished telling you that story about what happened 614 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: at the Arthur of Finlay College, and then I want 615 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,479 Speaker 1: to give you some practical tips to be in touch 616 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: with your spirit guide. And these tips will also work 617 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: with communicating with your loved ones. All right, So to 618 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: finish my story, last I left you is I was 619 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: sitting in a big circle of people with my eyes 620 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 1: closed with the intention of blending in trans mediumship and 621 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: delivering some words of inspiration. So after quite a while 622 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: with my eyes closed, I just said, Spirit wants to 623 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: tell you, and then as amazing as this sounds, words 624 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: started just flooding out of my mouth. The more I 625 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: tried to pay attention to the words, the words stopped. 626 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: The more I went back to just paying attention to 627 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: my breathing, the words continued. So we'll get into it 628 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: in a minute. How important it is to be in 629 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: the present moment. But I don't know how long I 630 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: was kind of out of it, but I just let 631 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: the words flow, and I felt very animated by a 632 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: male personality felt older to me. And what was very 633 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: interesting is as this person was telling a story through 634 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: I very much felt my body turning and moving as 635 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: if I was leaning forward, as if I was looking 636 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: at every person in that circle. And I just kept turning, 637 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: looking around the circle and delivering the story. While at 638 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: some point the story ended, I felt myself leaned back 639 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: in the chair, and then after some time several minutes, 640 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: I opened my eyes and when I opened my eyes, 641 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: the people in the circle were drawing their eyes. They 642 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: were very touched by the words that were spoken. The 643 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: instructor asked me, how was that for you, and I 644 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: explained how weird it was when I tried to concentrate 645 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: on the words. They stopped, and she said that was 646 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: absolutely natural, because we need to be in that present 647 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: moment for them to work through us. And then I 648 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: explained how weird it felt that I moved around so much, 649 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: looking at everybody, leaning back and forth in my chair, 650 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 1: and that's when people looked at me, and they said, Sandra, 651 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: you remained perfectly still that entire time. Oh. I get 652 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: goosebumps just telling you that story, because there is this 653 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 1: love that we each have that flows through us. Why 654 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: they were crying and drawing their tears is because there 655 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: was a story about being a sailor on an expedition 656 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: across a mighty ocean with all the ups and downs 657 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: and fear and twists and dark skies and rain and 658 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: giant waves and all of that. And it was to 659 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: pay attention to the journey, not the destination, and what 660 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: we can learn from the journey. Something like that was 661 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: what the message was. So it was very moved and 662 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: I was very proud of myself for raising my hand 663 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: and doing something that I was scared to do. Our 664 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: dreams coming true is on the other side of our 665 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: comfort zone, so the present moment is of vital importance. 666 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: It's the way our loved ones get through to us. 667 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 1: It's the way the spirit guides and friends get through 668 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: to us. It's where answers come to us. It's where 669 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: healing takes place, and it's hard to do. It's like 670 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: building a muscle, and even no matter how much you 671 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: build the muscle, it's still hard to get there. The 672 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: best thing I can do for you and me to 673 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: recommend that we get in touch with our spirit guides 674 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: and our loved ones is to do the following practice. Now. 675 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: I do think it's important that we journal this because 676 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: our imagination absolutely does kick in. But if we keep 677 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: track of the times we sit, you'll start seeing patterns 678 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: to things. Or there might be a familiar face that 679 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: keeps showing up, someone you don't know, someone you've never seen, 680 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: and if they keep presenting themselves over and over, that 681 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: might tend to be somebody who's supporting you in unseen world. 682 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: You have to have an intention. Is it a loved 683 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: one that you want to work with or do you 684 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: want to develop a relationship with your spirit guides? And 685 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: while I say there could be one main spirit guide, 686 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: I was reminded in between our break here when I 687 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: did a little research that my instructor from the Arthur 688 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: Finlay College said there could be hundreds of spirit guides 689 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: and one main voice. When I do the Friday trans 690 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: demonstrations with Scott, what mister Eric says is that he 691 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: speaks on behalf of many. What I think is most 692 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 1: important is that we all realize that we have this 693 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: unseen world of help available to us, and not only that, 694 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: we have a very powerful soul. So to distinguish, Oh, 695 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: is it my spirit guide or is it my soul? 696 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters, because I think you're 697 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: going to be moved with the goosebumps with some of 698 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: the results you juice. So if you close your eyes 699 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: and you can do this now, I'm going to do 700 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: it quickly, but you can practice this one the episode 701 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: is over. You close your eyes and you set that intention. 702 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: It really is just a asking from your heart that 703 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: you connect with either your loved one or your spirit 704 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: guide or inspirers that are in the unseen world who 705 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: love you unconditionally. You set that little prayer of intention 706 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: and just set it aside. And what I like to 707 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: do is imagine that there's this golden light inside, and 708 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: as the light grows and gets brighter, just imagine it 709 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: pouring out of your pores and just filling the entire room. 710 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: What my instructor said at the Arthur Findley College was 711 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: to imagine a very bright blue light off in the distance, 712 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: and this can be the light of the universe of God. 713 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: Whoever your higher power is that is just overlooking everything 714 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: and to invite in your spirit guides. And for me, 715 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: I would imagine these golden lights that would just come 716 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: in and settle in the space around me, getting closer 717 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: and closer and closer, and just let their lights blend 718 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: with your lights, and you can say, if there is 719 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: anything you want to tell me, I'm here to receive 720 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: anything you want to show me, any messages you have 721 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 1: for me. But the important thing is to just quiet 722 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: your mind, pay attention to your breathing, and just let go. 723 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: And you may find doing this there's thoughts that come 724 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: in words that come in pictures that come into your mind, 725 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: and as easy as it is to try to latch 726 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: onto them and think about them, that turns off the 727 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: flow of communication. So just let them come in and 728 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: let them go. And when you're done, you can simply 729 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: open your eyes and you can write down in your 730 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: journal what you experienced. Pay attention to your feelings. There 731 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: could be feelings of love that come in. Now, if 732 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: you want to work with your loved one, you do 733 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: the same thing. You set that intention. But what I 734 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: find is most helpful is, yes, you can imagine them 735 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,959 Speaker 1: walking into your area of light. But also remember some 736 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: of the great times you've had together, the loving times. 737 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: Ignite that feeling of love that you had together, and 738 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: then just sit there in the silence. You may find 739 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: that there's images and more memories that come in. You 740 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: may feel a hug, you may feel the goosebumps. You 741 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: may feel a little kiss on your cheek or on 742 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: your forehead or on the top of your head. This 743 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: all takes time, and it takes practice. Remember, just like 744 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: building a muscle. Another thing that I think you really 745 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: enjoy doing is set the intention, just like we did 746 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: for either the loved one or for your spirit guides. 747 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: But have a piece of paper or a notebook, your 748 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: journal andy, and maybe you have a question you have 749 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 1: for them. After you sit for a while, let your 750 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: hand start writing. There will be some words that come 751 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: into your mind. And if no words show up, you 752 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 1: can start the ball rolling by writing down some words. 753 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: But then just listen in to what words come from 754 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: your soul and write them as you hear them, and 755 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 1: you may just find What I found is that after 756 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: you write them all out and read them, they are 757 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: some pretty profound words. If you have the intention of 758 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 1: working with your loved one, same thing, talk to them, 759 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,959 Speaker 1: imagine their love, and write again. In the beginning could 760 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 1: be ninety nine percent one percent them. But the more 761 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: you practice and the more you sit, the more experiences 762 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: you'll have of this connection. I want to let you 763 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: in on a little secret. You don't have to just 764 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 1: do this with your eyes closed. The more you close 765 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: your eyes and sit, the more it charges a battery 766 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: between here and the unseen world. But during the day, 767 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: keep your mind in the present moment as best possible. 768 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: Try not to be distracted by thoughts. Stay in the 769 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 1: present moment to whatever it is you're doing, and don't 770 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: be surprised if some ideas come to your mind, some words, 771 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: and remember they're going to sound like your voice, that 772 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: is the voice of the unseen world. If you're interested 773 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: in exploring this more, I was at the Arthur Findlay 774 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: College in June of twenty and eighteen, and I found 775 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: in our Facebook group seven videos of what was experienced. 776 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: So you can follow along and you can do all 777 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: of the exercises. If you're not part of our Facebook 778 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: group yet, go to We Don't Die dot com. The 779 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: top of the page says Facebook group. Join it once 780 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: you're in it. Just beneath where it says recent media, 781 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: you can click on see all, then click on videos 782 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: and then scroll to the bottom. I have really long 783 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: hair in these videos, and so you'll see me with 784 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: the long hair and also with my eyes closed, and 785 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 1: you'll see those of the videos from June twenty and eighteen. 786 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 1: You may also want to go to Amazon and type 787 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: in Tony Stockwell Spirit Guide. He's got a great audio 788 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: download that you can get, and he also has a 789 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: great trance CD. Also, every Friday you can witness Scott 790 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 1: Milligan doing this trance speaking and also join him and 791 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: myself on one of our live classes that happen every week. 792 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: And of course we have our free Sunday gathering with 793 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: a medium demonstration online. If you need more details and 794 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: you can't find them at We Don't Die dot com, 795 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: just send me an email, Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com. 796 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: I just want to remind you that around you is 797 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: so much unseen love from your loved ones, from your guides, 798 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: and you have a very divine soul working on your 799 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: behalf also, so let's all just build that relationship with 800 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: those that love us, that are right next to us. 801 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for listening and we'll talk 802 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: again soon. 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