1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: It's been a full year of the Carol Markowitz Show. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm so happy and honored for every single listener. I'm 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: also so grateful for iHeartRadio and for the Klay, Travis 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton podcast network for giving me this opportunity. 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know if this show would work. It's not 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: news of the day, it's not about politics. I described 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: this podcast as asking political people non political questions, but 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: it's also a show about living better, learning from other people, 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: taking good advice. And look, some episodes do veer straight 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: into politics, and there's just no stopping them. A lot 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: of people are just used to offering their opinion on 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: what's going on and are confused when someone asks quiteestions 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: about them personally. I get that, so we do our 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: best to keep things not quite politics focused more personal 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: here and just to hope for the best. 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: This show has. 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Been doing a million downloads a quarter, and that is 19 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: just wild to me. I've had people who have been 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: listening to me since the first episode and always offer feedback. 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: I really love that. I love hearing from listeners in general. 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: I got a. 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Bunch of mail recently about the dating episodes. I love 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: getting the questions, and I also love getting the advice 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: that people want to share. If you've got thoughts, drop 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: me an email Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com, 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: k A R O L M A R K O 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: w I c As and Charlie Zas and Zebra Show 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. For season two of the show, 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: I've switched up some of the questions based on your suggestions. 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: I actually swim one question, dropped one question. 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: And kept one question. 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm no longer asking about our largest cultural problem, but 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: more widely, what the guest worries about could be personal 35 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: or it could be cultural. I've dropped the question about 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: whether the guest. 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: Feels like they've made it. 38 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: I've added a listener suggested question about advice the guest 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: would give their sixteen year old self, and I've kept 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: the last question asking the guests to offer a tip 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: to improve the lives of our listeners. Lots of people 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: said they found that one useful, and I love being useful. 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to season two of The Carol 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: mark Wood Show with all of you. Thank you so 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: much for listening. Coming up next and interview with Buck Sexton, 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: my very first repeat guest. 47 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: He was also my very. 48 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: First ever guest on season one of this show. We'll 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: hear from Buck Sexton after the break. Hi, and welcome 50 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: My guest today is. 52 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton of the Clay and Book Show, and I'm 53 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: so happy to have you on. 54 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: Buck. Thank you, Carol. This is exciting. I'm very honored 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: that I was the first guest, and now the end 56 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: of year one, I am back here. So at least 57 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: I got I was able to stay in the roster. 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: That's right, I mean a big deal here. 59 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kicking off season two of The Carol Markowitz 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Show on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton podcast Network. 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: So I've loved last year. I've gotten to talk. 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: To so many interesting and cool people. I have to 63 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: tell you that your interview was the one that gets 64 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: mentioned to me the most, and we'll get to that later. 65 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: The last question that I ask about better living that 66 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: so many people are like, you know that. 67 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: Interview with Buck Sexton. 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: Really I started doing what he's ingested And again I'll 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: talk about it in a bit, but yeah, people really 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: enjoyed that so love having you on. 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: Also, when you were on a year ago, you were 72 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: in newlywed. 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: You've now you know, been married for a long, long, 74 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: long time. Any marriage insights. 75 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: For us, I'm starting off. Wow, we're going right into. 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: It, right into it. Yeah, you know, people love to 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: hear about this kind of stuff. 78 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: You know, Honestly, the nothing about it has been a 79 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: surprise to me. And I think part of it is 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: everybody has the model for what they think marriage will 81 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 3: be like that is just ingrained in their subconscious from 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: their own parents, right, and you know, maybe there's things 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: to learn, not just things to emulate. But and I 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: have parents who have been married now, oh my god, 85 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: forty Oh I'm trying to do the mathem I had 86 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: forty six years, I think, and. 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: They are the cutest couple ever. 88 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 3: You Yeah, but my parents are married a long time, 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: so you know, I had a sense of it from that. 90 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: I would say that advice that I would relay that 91 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: was pure marriage advice that I got early on, uh, 92 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: in the whole process was how you greet people really 93 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: does matter and and it is memorable and sets the 94 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: sets sort of the tone for the rest of the 95 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: conversation or the rest of the interaction. But so you know, 96 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: when your spouse comes home or you come home to 97 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: your spouse, it's a kiss, a hug, a hug, and 98 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: a kid. I love you. I'm excited to see you. 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: You know, what are we doing now? It's not. 100 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: In the couch, it's. 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: Not coming in on the phone like you know, doing this, 102 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: you know whatever, like you come in the greeting matters 103 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 3: and I find that that and we and we both 104 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: have a you know, we we agreed on that kind 105 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: of early on, like when we talked about this, and 106 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: when we're getting there, we're like, oh, that's really good 107 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: advice we would give pre kano, which is what Catholics do. 108 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you no, I didn't know. 109 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of a Catholic marriage. 110 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: Oh I know about the yeah right, yeah, yeah. 111 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: But it's a Catholic marriage preparation opponent, you know that 112 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: you're supposed to do before get married to church as 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: we did. Uh. And it was the I was some 114 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: of the best advice that we got on it. So 115 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: that's that's that was really good. I mean that really 116 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: has put us in good stead. And I just I 117 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 3: don't know, I can't just overstate the benefits of it. 118 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: And by the way, it's true for friends too. You know, 119 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: it's true for other people in your life when you 120 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: see people. I mean, you don't have to like hug 121 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: and kiss everybody. That wouldn't be appropriate. 122 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: But yeah, well great, but I feel like you are. Yeah, 123 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: now that I'm thinking about it, you're always. 124 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: Like heyy, and you know, very very warm and yeah, 125 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: I always feel very welcomed by Buck Sexton. 126 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: Well, my family are huge, like my mom and dad 127 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: argue over who's the bigger Carol Markowitz and work, and 128 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: so you know, we are very excited. And our group 129 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: of friends, Carol, it's like this, it's like the celebrity 130 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: has a soh it's very excited. 131 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: It's such a lie, you know. I think that that's 132 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: really sweet. 133 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: Though. 134 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of all the Sextons, and actually 135 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about you and your 136 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: brother and Clay have started a coffee company and I'm 137 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: actually your. 138 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: Coffee company's biggest fan. I really am. Go ahead and. 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: Thinking right now, my my manager Craig knew that I 140 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: was going to be out in La where I am 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: right now, which where I kind of, and he knew 142 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: that I forgot to bring my own I didn't bring 143 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: my coffee bag, but he lives here, so he has 144 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: it at his house. So he brought nice dot com 145 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: and for me. 146 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: You drink it, Yeah, I love it well. 147 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: So I think I've told you this, But I was 148 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: a instant coffee drinker. It was just it was like 149 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: no coffee was good enough to like not just mix 150 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: it in a cup and go on about my day. 151 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: And I have become And you know this is not 152 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: sponsored in any way. I just I love Crockett coffee. 153 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: I think it's so good and just it's worth it 154 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: to me to brew up a part of it and 155 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: get my days started with it. 156 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: And I've just never felt like that about a coffee before. 157 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: I've been like, it's fine, it's fine, but how much 158 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: better is it than instant? Really? 159 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: Mason searched for many months to find the right uh 160 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: people to work with on the roasting and the and 161 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: the packaging side and sourcing the right beans and using 162 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: the right blend. So he'll be very happy to hear 163 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: this because I think people just think, like, oh, you 164 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: just find someone great? Is it? Ording coffee beans? Because 165 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: obviously we don't need to have a coffee domestic coffee 166 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: production in the US and that No, it's actually really 167 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: hard to find something good who wants to work with you. 168 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: It's that was the first part of the process. So 169 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm so glad we got a crack a coffee drinker 170 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: that makes Yeah. Actually, it's been fascinating after a decade 171 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 3: of being in the radio business as a talent who 172 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: has to speak about products, now to be a product owner, 173 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 3: i mean co owned, playing with Mason and trying to 174 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: go at it from the other side of the table. 175 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: It's like you see a lot of you know, you 176 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: see you obviously see things differently. You see the challenges 177 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: of how you you want to work with people, but 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: you have to make sure that it's a business and 179 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: not you're not sure hobby. 180 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: But part of it is having an alternative product to 181 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of the mainstream products that we assume we're spending 182 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: all of our cash on leftist causes. 183 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: Right, that's definitely what you own in of this. 184 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: It's funny. I'm actually giving I'm doing Bill Maher's show 185 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: tonight and I'm giving, I mean in my honorarium. It's 186 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: you know, it's not. I don't know if I'm like 187 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: God to share how much is It's not a lot 188 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: of money. It's a nice check. I'm giving the Tunnel 189 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: to Towers Foundation. I mean, I just I think that 190 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: they do such amazing work. And it's interesting to me 191 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: because it's like a lot of people on the right 192 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: like that charity, but to me, it is a totally 193 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: American charity. It is not it is not partisan in 194 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: any way. But it helps heroes, first responders, military, their families. 195 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: And ten percent of profit from Crockett goes to that. 196 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: So if you want Rocket to be one hundred million 197 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: dollar company and be able to send a ten million 198 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: dollar check, you know, it's amazing. From this, we want 199 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: to be able to send a ten million dollar check 200 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: to Tunnel the Towers every year. I mean, that's like 201 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: our vision, that's our goal. 202 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: So one of the new questions that I have for 203 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: season two of The Carol Markowitz Show is and you know, 204 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: I had listeners suggest the questions and then I picked 205 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: my favorites. One question we'll stay from last season, but 206 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: two new ones. 207 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: The new question is what advice. 208 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: Would you give a sixteen year old buck sexton to 209 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: yourself at sixteen. 210 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: I think that the best advice that I could give 211 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: to a sixteen year old version. Well, so there's the 212 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: advice that I would give myself yourself, yourself, and then 213 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: there's the advice that I would give sort of sixteen 214 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 3: year olds or broadly because I was a little bit 215 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: unusual for a sixteen year old and some respects that 216 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: may not be a shock to people who are familiar 217 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: with me or my work or whatever. And maybe it's 218 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 3: actually more and more one and the same. I think 219 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: it'd be good for me to hear it, which is, 220 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: you just want to take a long view when you're sixteen, 221 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: along view right when when you're fifty a long view 222 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: is like, I don't know, I like years, twenty years, 223 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: you know when you're my age, when you're forties, it's 224 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: like and I'm middle age. When you're sixteen, you want 225 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: to take what you think of as a long view 226 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: on just everything, just everything that you possibly like, just 227 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 3: the I think the biggest track it's so tough. 228 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: To do, it's so hard. 229 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: It's seen. 230 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but no one told me this. The biggest traps 231 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 3: are you? Are you popular at sixteen? Nobody cares? Are 232 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: you considered smart? At sixteen, nobody cares. Are you considered, 233 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: you know, good looking or attractive at sixteen, Like, no 234 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: one really cares until you get into your twenties and thirties. 235 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: Nothing is going to be meaningful to your life. Really, 236 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm talking about personal growth stops right. No one at 237 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: sixteen is doing the thing that they will look back 238 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: on their life and be like, oh yeah, like that 239 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: was really amazing, that was really important. So I think 240 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: you can. I think that I would tell myself, and 241 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 3: I would tell any sixteen year old. Let you know, 242 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: lay the pressure off yourself, take the long taking the 243 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: long view. I know it seems like it and it 244 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: does require discipline and it takes some sort of foresight, 245 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: but it also means you're not even going to remember 246 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: this stuff when it matters, like you're not really who 247 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: you are yet. And so just enjoy each day, try 248 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: to find what you like, try to get better. You know, 249 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: calculus is bs. It doesn't you know what I like? 250 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: This is, But this is teenagers listening. Do not listen 251 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: to him. It's very important. 252 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: This is the point. If you're good at calculus and 253 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: you want to be pushing in these directions, great, then 254 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: that's an area for you, but you will not use 255 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: some of these things in your life. Don't stress out. 256 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: I'm not saying don't do your homework. Yeah, it doesn't 257 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 3: matter in any meaning. Kids put so much stress. I'll 258 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: give you another one. Go to college where you want 259 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: to go to college. I went to Amherst, which in 260 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: some of the like college there's university rankings, which is 261 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: always like Harvard, I don't know those college rankings. Amherst 262 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 3: is routinely for the colleges, a top five school, so 263 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: you know it's Williams amhers Swathmore. Those tend to be 264 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: the ones that are kind of always trading off whatever 265 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: I wish I had gone somewhere else. 266 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: Honestly, where do you wish you would? 267 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I probably would have. I mean I almost 268 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: went to like Georgetown was the one that I was 269 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: so close to you. But here's the thing. I went 270 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 3: where I thought it was more academically rigorous, without even 271 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: really knowing what that meant. Instead of what do I 272 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: think I'm going to enjoy my time more and have 273 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: and it fits in with my conception of how I 274 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: want to spend my day to day as an eighteen 275 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: nineteen twenty year old. Right, So look, I had a 276 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: good time at Emerson. I'm not like, I'm not anti Christ, sure, 277 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: but I just mean, you know, try to take the 278 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: longer view. Understand that a lot of things that stress 279 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: you out at sixteen are truly meaningless. 280 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: Were you hard on yourself when you were sixteen? 281 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: Oh? 282 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely that this is coming across here, Okay, I just 283 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure kids are hard on themselves anymore. I 284 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: don't know that that's still maybe. I don't have a 285 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: six My oldest is fourteen, and noe. 286 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. 287 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: But they seem like they you know, self esteem is 288 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: really stressed in schools, so they seem like they're doing okay. 289 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: I mean so again I was in school. What I mean, 290 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: I was. We're till going back over thirty years now 291 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: when I was sixteen, which makes me feel really old, 292 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: even though a lot of people watching this on video 293 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: at least will be like, he looks like he's twenty five. 294 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: You really do, which is fair, which I don't know 295 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: what to say. I mean, it's you know, I'm forty 296 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: going to be forty three, but but no, I yes, 297 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: why I look, that's the thing, that's what I mean though, 298 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: like there's what I would give advice to myself versus 299 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: what I would sort of how I advise other people 300 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: who are sixteen but on the college front, for example, 301 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: And I tell, you know, we have some great neighbors 302 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: Carrie and I do where we live in U in Miami, 303 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: and become very friendly with them, and they've got kids 304 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: who are, you know, fourteen sixteen around that age group. 305 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: And the parents ask me because I don't know, some 306 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: people think I'm kind of wise. I know, yeah you are, 307 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: thank you, and they last me things and I'll just 308 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: say the When I was in school, the ranking of 309 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: your college was like it's either you're going to go 310 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: work at Goldman and make millions and have an awesome 311 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: life and be you know, just hugging your beautiful wife 312 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: on the beach in Southampton and or not right based 313 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: on where you go school. But I've learned as I've 314 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: become a adult who actually has seen in life is 315 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I know schmucks who went to Harvard, I 316 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: know stars who went the community college. Like it's just 317 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: not this or some rough sorting of academic ability that 318 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: goes on, but it doesn't really you're seeing this by 319 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: the way, with the huge surge in interest in SEC schools. 320 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, don't tell Clay this, but like twenty years ago, 321 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: if you were a good student in New York City 322 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: or I'm sure La and some of the you know, Boston, 323 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: you were not going to an SEC S. If you 324 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: went to an SEC school from New York again, something 325 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: went wrong. Yeah you you you were you were like 326 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: a you were like a screw up and wanted to 327 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: party and go for the That was totally shifting. And 328 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: now people are you know University of Florida is like 329 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: an elite school. Oh yeah, it's hard to get it. 330 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: Sure that we hope our kids go to a University 331 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: of Florida, right, No. 332 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: But you look at these schools in the Southeast, and 333 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: I think that's just a function of people realizing where 334 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: do I want to be and get a good education? 335 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: Not just like where do I fall on this list? 336 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: I mean. One of the funniest things I could tell 337 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: anybody who's like, what am I going to do with 338 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: my life? And and uh, you know, how am I know? 339 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: Where am I going to go with this is of 340 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: the people that I knew who were doing backflips because 341 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: they got recruited to go work on Wall Street when 342 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: they were at twenty misery, they hated it, and almost 343 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: none of them lasted. Almost none of them lasted, Like 344 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 3: I mean, right, I mean same things for lawyers. 345 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: You know, I know very few people who got into 346 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: like the best law firms that they were so excited 347 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: to go to and liked it and stayed it. 348 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: Just it almost never happens. 349 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny because I think 350 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: back to this and it's so much about where people 351 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: can make money at a young Like everyone wants to 352 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: have money at a young age. You have to also remember, 353 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: like money as a young single person is very you know, 354 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: you have very different needs in very different stresses. You know, 355 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: I enjoyed myself in my twenties and I was making 356 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: at the time what would be what was basically like 357 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 3: I think the average American household income, which was like 358 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars a year, and you know, in New 359 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: York City, that wasn't you know, I was working for 360 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: the government, it wasn't a lot of money at all. 361 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: I had peers who were like, I just got a 362 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars pona. So I'm like I just my 363 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: my all in so, I had friends in my early 364 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: twenties who are making and a lot of them, by 365 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: the way, not just like two who are making three 366 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: four times as much money as me. Right off the bat, 367 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: and again to my point about long term versus short term, 368 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: nobody cares, right, nobody cares. 369 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: You're not like, how much were you making out of college? 370 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: Right? Exactly how much you're making at college doesn't matter. 371 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: You're not rich because you made one hundred and sixty 372 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: grand one year, and this is your life. The other 373 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: thing I've realized is. 374 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: Maybe excellent, this is really I love all of this, 375 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: Like oh really, oh I keep going yeah, yeah, well as. 376 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: You can say. The other thing I realized is your 377 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: goal and achievement. Obsession is a trap a goal or 378 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: an achievement that you want, whether it's to be rich 379 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: or to be you know, to have a great physique, 380 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: or to be super successful in your field. That is 381 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 3: a guide for how you set up your day to 382 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: day life. Your day to day life is everything right, 383 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: meaning you want to be You want to be in 384 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: a position where you are growing, where you are enjoying yourself, 385 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: where you are challenged, but you are comfortable enough that 386 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: you can have moments of happiness and you want to 387 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: set up that matrix of your day to day. And 388 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: so this is kind of the anti I want to 389 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 3: go work at. 390 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 4: I was gonna say Leman Brothers, but that was my day, right. 391 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 4: People are like, I want to go work with Lehman Brothers, 392 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: but not so much. Yeah, not so much anymore. But 393 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: you know, okay, do you want to spend a few 394 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 4: years of your twenties? For some people, the answer is yes, 395 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 4: do you want to send a few years of your 396 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: twenties legitimately working eighty hours a week gaining By the way, 397 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: for the women who did it that I knew they 398 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: all of course, because you're at a desk and you're 399 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 4: eating like crap Chinese takeout food, right, like, you know, 400 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: gaining weight, not getting sunlight whatever, so you can you know, 401 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: make six figures when you're this stuff does not matter. 402 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from Buck Sexton. And 403 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: it could all fall apart so fast, I mean, you're leaving. 404 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: An example is a very good one. And we just 405 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: watched inchment not increment. We watched Telladega Nights with the 406 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: kids recently, and the guy in the movie is like, oh, 407 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: I want to get in on this Halliburton stock you know, 408 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: it just it could all end tomorrow. 409 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: It doesn't. It doesn't last forever anyway. And yeah, if 410 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: you're if. 411 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: You're living that way at twenty two, you're probably doing 412 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: it wrong. 413 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: It's funny, you know, Carol, there was this, I really 414 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: would say a year ago there was this peak of 415 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: these podcasts and they're all it's extra points if you 416 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: have a British accent, right, that means you're smarter on 417 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: a podcast for sure, right, Like I have a question 418 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: to ask you, but they would have you know, they've 419 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: talked to all these different uh you know, alpha CEO 420 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: guys when they would ask them and this is true, 421 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: I've heard that. I mean I could think of like 422 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: ten different podcasts where there's been a version of this 423 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: same moment. You know, they asked some guy who's made 424 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: you know, five hundred million dollars two billion whatever it is, 425 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 3: right like astronomical riches and run some huge company or 426 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: built some huge company. They say like, what what you 427 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: think about and what are you most proud of? And 428 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: you know, you know what they all say, family, my family, 429 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: And if they have a regret. You know what. The 430 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: regret is not enough time with my family to admit. 431 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: And it's so obvious. 432 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 3: It's so obvious. And this is great for people to 433 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: hear though, because this is what I mean about your 434 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: day to day. It's like, you know, I mean, I 435 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: turned around the other day and I and I told Carrie, uh, 436 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: who's my wife or anyone in the audience who doesn't know. 437 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: It was just wonderful, thank you. She is really great. 438 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 3: She's really great. And and I I turned on. We're 439 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: talking to something. I don't even know how it came up, 440 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 3: but we found it like some friend of mine or 441 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: some guy I know, like just that you know just 442 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: actually is like a friend of a friend. And we 443 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: were like, well, like that guy's you know guys, I 444 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 3: didn't know he sold this company for like three hundred 445 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 3: million dollars and and you know he's got all these 446 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: fancy cars and all these houses and everything. And I 447 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: turned around. It's like, honestly, if I swear to you, 448 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 3: if we had a billion dollars tomorrow, I wouldn't get 449 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: a different car. Happy with the car we live in, Yeah, 450 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I would like there's like what there is 451 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: a level where. 452 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, diminished and returns. 453 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: So you have what you need. And I mean to me, 454 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: it's just kind of funny when I hear people that 455 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: have and because because again this is about like the 456 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 3: goal and the short term long term. Yeah, you have 457 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: this idea that oh, if I get to and this 458 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 3: is what I mean by the goal, can become the 459 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: enemy of what matters, which is your day to day life. 460 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to mortgage my twenties, thirties, and maybe even 461 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: my forties so that I can be a tech a 462 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: tech billionaire, right Like, let's say that's your mindset. And 463 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, I've come across a lot of younger 464 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: people who that's clearly and even more than that, by 465 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: the way, it's I want to be a YouTube star. 466 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the definitely the hot thing right now. 467 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: I want to make thirty three. Well, okay, you know 468 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: you're going to spend a lot of time making content. 469 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: Do you like making content? You're going to have people 470 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: that don't like what you're doing. It's going to be frustrating, 471 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: it's going to take years. You know, you're you're also 472 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: taking a risk of not of not doing other things, 473 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: learning other things, that you have to take a I 474 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: think a broad spectrum view of what you're doing. But 475 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 3: if that makes you miserable, even if you wake up 476 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: at forty or forty five and now you do have 477 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: whatever it is, like you do have the million dollars 478 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: of stock in. 479 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: The Lamborghini, you know, or you have the. 480 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: Ten million followers on YouTube or something. Were you happy 481 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 3: to get there? 482 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: Right? 483 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: Was it? Happiness? Is? 484 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: This is all so deep too? 485 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: Like yeah, this is you know, I think that you 486 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: might not be and I think people think that they automatically. 487 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: Will be yes, this, But this is what I mean 488 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: by people create I'll be happy when you know, people 489 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: call it. I think people call like if then thinking 490 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: or when if thinking or whatever. It's you know, if 491 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: I get this, everything will be worth it. Yeah, if 492 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 3: I achieve the following thing, all the sacrifices. Look to 493 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: get places, you have to make sacrifices. Like one of 494 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: the things I tell people media now is if I 495 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 3: knew how hard it would be to get to a 496 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: place where I am happy and comfortable with my media 497 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: career when I started it, I probably would have gone 498 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: and taken a job like McKenzie or something. You know 499 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: what I mean, like I actually got on this like escalator. 500 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: It was kind of like once you're on it, you're 501 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 3: in it. You just kept going, but I knew what 502 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: it was actually going to require, you know. I mean, 503 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 3: I've managed to make a career in conservative media. I've 504 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: never been paid a dollar by Fox News in my life. 505 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: Now, that's fine, pretty unusual, that's. 506 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: Fine, But you know, but I just bring up, like 507 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: if you told me that when I started, I forget 508 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: it right, I'm never going to make a dollar from 509 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: Fox every Like, they're never going to literally pay me. 510 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: It's not a contributor or anything. I can't make a 511 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: living doing this. Well it turns out I can. But 512 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: you know, this is what I mean by I liked 513 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: even when stuff was crappy and I was doing a 514 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: lot for free, this game that you and I are in, 515 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: this which I actually think is a kind of a thing. 516 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 3: This thing that we do. I like it is. When 517 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: I was getting abused at CNN on air, not because 518 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: you know, they're so good at arguing, but because you know, 519 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 3: it's just like, ah, like chickens, you know, squawking at 520 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: you all at once. It's a mess. I was like, yeah, 521 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: but I like this is the fight I want to 522 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: be in, you know what I mean? And that yeah, 523 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: and that's really And it wasn't If I take this 524 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 3: abuse one day I'll have my own show at CNN 525 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 3: or something. It was just like I like this right now, 526 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 3: and I think I'm good at it, and so I'm 527 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: gonna keep doing it. 528 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: Totally. 529 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: I think that for younger people thinking about what they 530 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: want to do, do that it's not just people say 531 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 3: pursue your passion. No no, no, no, no no, no, Like 532 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 3: there are lots of things. There was a time when 533 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: I was passionate about video games, but like how to 534 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: make a living playing video games? 535 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: Maybe, although now you never know, really nobody would watch 536 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: you play video games. 537 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: That's like a money making thing now. 538 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: So well yeah, so that's my My thing is is 539 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: if you really want to want to be where you 540 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: want to be in life. And I see this across 541 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: all my friends, all my colleagues, what is your day 542 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: to day? You know, do you enjoy it? Do you 543 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: find it productive? Do you find it meaningful? 544 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: So the second question of my at one point, no, no, 545 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: that was one question. Yeah, like we got to get 546 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: to like that's right. 547 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: My second my second new question is what do you 548 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: worry about? Which I think goes well with this because 549 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, I think that you have to worry about something, 550 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: and so what is it you. 551 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: Mean as an individual or as an individual? 552 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: What does what does books Sexton worry about? And it 553 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: could be anything. 554 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: My question last season was what do you think is 555 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: our largest cultural problem? 556 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: So it could be cultural or it could be you know, 557 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 2: I don't know. 558 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: I I definitely worry about my kids or different different 559 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: things on different days. 560 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: But I I worry about, uh, what I call mass delusion. 561 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: So I worry about groups of people becoming deeply convinced 562 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: of things and mobile eyes behind things that are not 563 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: only untrue, but often anti true or sort of divorced 564 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: from reality. I think that is the biggest threat that 565 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: human beings face. I think that is the biggest challenge 566 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 3: that we have, and I mean I could go through. 567 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: I mean I think all totalitarianisms, for example, are founded 568 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 3: on delusional principles of universal control and absolute power, which 569 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: is just it's not this is contrary to human nature. 570 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: It's contrary to existence. Right. So all of the worst 571 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: things involve large groups becoming certain that something is true 572 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 3: when it is untrue. COVID obviously is a huge example 573 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 3: of that. 574 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think we just had a 575 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: real good example of that not too long ago. 576 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: And I think that this is what really concerns me 577 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: because also the ability to shape perception now at scale, 578 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: meaning you know, hundreds of me millions of people you 579 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: couldn't even you know. Yeah, there's like the printing press, 580 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: and then there's radio, and then there's these ways that 581 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: mass media have developed over the last hundred years. But 582 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: what we're in now is we alternate an alternate reality 583 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: of what is public consensus can be constructed very rapidly, 584 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: and by the time people even realize what's going on. 585 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: I think enormous damage can be done. I mean, I 586 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: do think COVID was, yeah, a perfect example of that, 587 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 3: but I think there are other examples of it too. 588 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that the narrative that Donald Trump 589 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: is is hitler while we're to it because it's so stupid. 590 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: This is really this is really bad. This is it's 591 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: bad because there are people who believe this stuff and 592 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: they that then they're kind of numb to all the 593 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: other arguments, facts, data, and discussion that I think can 594 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: lead to. 595 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: We end up arguing, you know, let's get rid of 596 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: the First Amendment because of what if you say something 597 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: positive about Donald Trump on social media, you know, they 598 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: end up having to go down this rabbit hole where 599 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: it has to support their delusion, and. 600 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: That affects all of us. 601 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, and I think we were also all kind 602 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: of becoming. I mean I used to love I mean, 603 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: you know I did growing up. I read a lot, 604 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: but I watched a lot of particularly like HBO and 605 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: like I love watching all. I watched all these action 606 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: movies that were like made with small budgets and were 607 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: not good, you know, like I was a Dolph Lungdren fan. 608 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: And I don't mean Rocky four. I mean it's tougher, 609 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: Like nobody saw is that the Russian showed out? Sweet? 610 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: No, he plays the Russian? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 611 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: that's all I mean, I don't know. 612 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a thing that we used to watch 613 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: in these bad movies where it's like a human but 614 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: has like a chip in the brain and maybe some 615 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: cataolic thing. And Terminator is obviously the biggest example of this, 616 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: but like cyborgs is a big thing in the eighties 617 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: and nineties, we're all becoming these kind of human machine 618 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: hybrids where are like, we have access to endless information, 619 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: but we're also constantly being influenced by what's really almost 620 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: a second brain. Like you've never you know before, if 621 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: you wanted to find out a fact, if you aren't 622 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: go to encyclopedia, what are your Encyclopedia Britannica, and like, oh, 623 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 3: like is that really? Like is the toadsloth really? But 624 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: you know, it's amazing on the one hand, but on 625 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: the other hand that you have all this information access, 626 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: but you also are so reliant on these machines now 627 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 3: that they are pross. They are creating our version of reality. 628 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: In ways when somebody's like Googled something and then they're 629 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: like read a book, you know, you just know they 630 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: just learned this. 631 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: Information five seconds ago. 632 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: Like when you see Twitter, like everybody become you know, 633 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: experts on whatever the latest thing is, like, oh, it's it, 634 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: I've always known about this, this was like this and 635 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: the fact that you believe that is evidence that you're stupid. 636 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: We see that all the time, and that is like 637 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: there they're part they think that that's part of them. 638 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: Their Google process is the information that they have. 639 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: It's also amazing. I went to a bookstore here in 640 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: La looking for a hard to find book on ivan 641 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: Ory von Pavlov for yeah right now. But anyway, they 642 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: said they had it, they actually didn't because they it 643 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: was so rare, like they hadn't even updated that the 644 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 3: one copy they had a long time ago was gone. 645 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: So I'm like, of course, right, like you know, I'm like, oh, 646 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: I found that, but I went in there was it 647 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: was interesting. I'm a big fan of tactile books, like 648 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: physical hard time. I think everyone should have them in 649 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: their home. I think children should grow up reading still books, 650 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: not kindles. Not I read, That's fine, but you should 651 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: have books should be a part of it. There is 652 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: something about a physical It is an unbeatable technology for 653 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: what it is in some ways, having having books occupy 654 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: physical space, having you know, the cover design and how 655 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: in your hands, and that experience of I am reading 656 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: and it's not just great screens is all fast screens 657 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 3: is something else. I think it's really important. But it 658 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: was funny being in this bookstore, because I mean I 659 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: am in La, to be fair, I look around, I'm like, 660 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 3: I'm looking at all these books. I'm like, has a white 661 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: guy ever written a book? Is there a white male 662 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: who has written a book? Because walking around this store, 663 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: I don't think so that's interesting to me. 664 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Pavlov book obviously was written by my guy, 665 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: but they don't have it anymore. 666 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: No, yeah, there was that. 667 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: So the last time you were on, I end all 668 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: my shows with the question of leave my listeners with 669 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: the tip for them to improve their lives, and your 670 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: tip it wasn't that a groundbreaking tip? Sorry to say that, 671 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: but it. 672 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: Was read before bed. I think that. I mean I 673 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: always read before bed. 674 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: I kind of fell off of that a little bit 675 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: when I got married, but I'm trying. 676 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get back to not scrolling before bed. 677 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: People wrote to me and said that it really did 678 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: change things for them, just the decision to read before 679 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: bed instead. 680 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: Of getting on your phone made a difference. So do 681 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: you have a new tip for us? 682 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: You want to end us with a new tip or 683 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: do you want to reinforce the last one? 684 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I have to double down on the 685 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: read before bed is a fabulous and that actually I do. 686 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: That's where actually the kindle for me, because if you 687 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: want to have the low light setting and everything that's 688 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: you know, so there's a place. I love my Kindle. 689 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: I'm not like anti it, but I just also believe 690 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: in physical books, and I believe that people should have 691 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: a bookshelf in the home and that there should be 692 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: books that they have both want to read and have 693 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: read that are on that shelf, and the children should 694 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: be familiar with it. I did grow up surrounded by 695 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: books and bookshelves in New York, so I think that 696 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: was interesting. It worked well for me, So I'll tell 697 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: you this one. Actually, man, I'm trying to pick I 698 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: have a few. I can't believe that. No. 699 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: I know, we were like it's like fifteen minutes over it, 700 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: but that's okay, that's okay. 701 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: No one really ever asked me my opinion on anything, 702 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: so this is such a new theck. It's always just like, 703 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: tell us what's going on in the news. 704 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: I to say that I get a lot of that 705 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: here because I get people on and they're like ready 706 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: to talk about Donald Trump or something, and then I'm like, so, 707 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: you know, what kind of advice do you have for people? 708 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: And they're like, wait, me what you know? 709 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because I I would actually love to 710 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: like both share and exchange insights with people out there 711 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: more broadly. But what I find is I actually get 712 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 3: people who are who are almost like taken aback by, 713 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: like excuse me, like we how is Trump going to 714 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 3: beat calm on this election? Like stay focused? But but won't. 715 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 3: I'm not allowed with some. 716 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: People, come back anytime and you share all the thoughts 717 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: that you have, all. 718 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 3: Right, So can I kind of kind of cheat and 719 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: give you a variant of the one I gave you 720 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 3: last year and then a totally new one. So I'm 721 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: kind of it's. 722 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: Your podcast network. You do whatever you want. 723 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 3: That's very kind of you, all right. So the one 724 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: thing I would tack on, because this gets me heat, 725 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: and I'm not even going to explain, get the TV 726 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: out of your bedroom. Get the TV out of your bedroom. 727 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 3: I'm not anti TV. I love great shows, that's fine. 728 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: Get it out of your bedroom. People, good old like 729 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: you're a newly wed. That's what I'm like, Well you 730 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Yeah, you know what I mean. 731 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: But what you mean get the TV out of your 732 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 3: bedroom full stop. Don't argue with me, just do it. 733 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: Move it to another room. Don't have a TV in 734 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: your bedroom. But the advice piece that I will give 735 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: because I'm tacking that onto part one of the reason 736 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 3: for you to bed. Uh. And you're gonna disagree with 737 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 3: me on this. When Carol that you're gonna you're I might, 738 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: I might trigger Carol Markowitz on her own comfortable footwear. 739 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: It is, I mean, life changing. I I do not 740 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: understand men and women wearing shoes that hurt their feet. 741 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 3: It SAPs your energy, It puts you in a bad mood. 742 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: It over the long term, it causes all kinds of 743 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: foot distortions. 744 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: Have you discussed this with Jesse Kelly. He's super into me. 745 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: I love. Yeah, this is where he is so wrong. 746 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: He is. He is like, yeah, a whole other stratosphere 747 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 3: of wrong. 748 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: He got into my car and I had flats like 749 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: in the passengers, you know, on the floor of the 750 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: passenger seat, and he was like flats and I was like, no, no, Jesse, 751 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: only for driving because I love heels. 752 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: I love hot shoes. I hear you, I really do. 753 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: I wear sneakers sometimes running around, you know, during the 754 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: day with my kids and stuff. But for nights out, 755 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: I love hot shoes and you cannot stop me. 756 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 3: So see all right, I can't convince Carol. But to 757 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: the rest of listing, there there are happy mediums. You 758 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: want to have comfortable feet the uh. I mean, one 759 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 3: one of my experiences in New York that I lived 760 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 3: through so many times before I got married was I'd 761 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 3: be on a date and it was going, well, you know, 762 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: you're a dinner. Usually you throw the standard in New 763 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: York as your dinner, and then you get drinks affords 764 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: because you could walk across the street or you know, 765 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 3: it's New York right there. I mean, I know you 766 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: know this, but for people listening, uh, and they'd be like, like, 767 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 3: we take an axe, and I'd be like, we're gonna 768 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: go three blocks, Like we're gonna be three. 769 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: Blocks, okay, fair, you know. But I also I have 770 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: like shoes that I go out in that I. 771 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: Know are going to be sitting shoes. I'm not walking 772 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: into three blocks. I'm not walking anywhere. 773 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm walking from the car to dinner where I'll be 774 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: sitting and then I'll get back in the car when 775 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: I know I have to walk a little bit. I 776 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: have comfortable heels that I could walk in, and I 777 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: have and you know, I, yes, I reject your whole 778 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: premise here. 779 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: But you would. I knew she would. She has an 780 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: amazing shoe collection, and I get it, and I'm you know, 781 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: and I know, especially with some of the women, but 782 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 3: I mean I see women walking around on these like 783 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 3: stilts that they have and I see it and I'm like, 784 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I know it looks nice is and 785 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: Eller gets to it. But okay, fine, if you're at 786 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: like a you know, if you're like a block tie 787 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 3: gala or a wedding or something, I get it. But 788 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 3: for me, fancy shoes is the way I feel about 789 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 3: neck ties only if I absolutely have. 790 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: To only silly but no shoes or you know, we're 791 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: gonna bring We're gonna bring Jesse Kelly on to debate 792 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: this with you and. 793 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: Tell you tell that let lanky son of a gun 794 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 3: anytime he wants to have the shoe throwdown on here. 795 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: He's Buck Sexton, Clay Travis and Buck Section show. Check 796 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: them out every day. 797 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: They're so amazing. You're awesome. 798 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: Buck, Thank you so much for having for coming on, 799 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: for having this show on your network. 800 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. 801 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 3: Rats on the podcast, by the way, it is doing great, 802 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,479 Speaker 3: and I know. 803 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: You see my internal numbers. 804 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: Congratulations, a lot of people listen. Very good stuff. 805 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck, thank you, thanks so much for joining 806 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: us on the Carol Marcowitch Show. Subscribe wherever you get 807 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: your podcasts.