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Speaker 1: Absolutely, because I want to play slight devil's advocate to

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna get much. I think that's that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: I think that low. I think I disagree because I

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Speaker 3: And that's the craziest part. So, like when you're trading

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Speaker 3: that it's two club options at twenty million apiece, which

434
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Speaker 3: could be great. You know, it could be great value,

435
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: but like right now, if you trade him right now,

436
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 3: it's a three year, fifty five million dollar contract, essentially,

437
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: it's it's a good deal. If he plays like he

438
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Speaker 3: did in twenty twenty three, you're kind of pissed off.

439
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: If he plays like he did in twenty twenty four.

440
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Speaker 3: The good news is for a team that trades for him,

441
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Speaker 3: they could just decline the option. If he's miserable or

442
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Speaker 3: hurt or whatever. But at that point, if that's even

443
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Speaker 3: a remote possibility, how much are you going to give

444
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: up for this guy? And I think if you're a

445
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 3: if you're a GM for another team, how much are

446
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 3: you really willing to give up for Relie Robert? At

447
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: this point, we're talking about the White Sox side of

448
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 3: it and how uncertain you, like we both are about

449
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 3: what he's gonna do this coming year. Well, on the

450
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: other side, that uncertainty is even scarier for me because

451
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Speaker 3: I'm a GM trying to keep my job, or a

452
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 3: GM that just might even be in good standing. Don't

453
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Speaker 3: want to risk it. This is a trade that could

454
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Speaker 3: really blow up in your face. So how much are

455
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: you willing to give up for a guy like this?

456
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Speaker 1: Let me give you an option of a trade that

457
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Speaker 1: I think could be made this offseason for Luis Robert

458
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: and there would be some definite upside coming back, but

459
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: there is some downside kind of similar to the player

460
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Speaker 1: that Luis Robert is who's now the odd man out

461
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, noelbe Marte. Oh god, I mean, what if

462
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: we packaged a deal around Noel Vie Marte, potentially Connor Phillips, right,

463
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: the Reds just brought in Owen White, so the Reds

464
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: they'd be buying low essentially sort of. I'm not sure

465
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Speaker 1: exactly how the verbiage all works with so many by

466
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: lows sell high guys that the same deal. You got

467
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Speaker 1: a young, controllable arm in Connor Phillips, who has at

468
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: least pitched in Major League Baseball. Maybe just add them

469
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Speaker 1: to the slew of arms in Chicago, see which one

470
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Speaker 1: of them make it. I mean, they have a decent

471
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Speaker 1: amount of Connor Phillips, but it never hurts to have

472
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Speaker 1: more starting pitching depth. Then you get a guy like

473
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Speaker 1: noel Vie Marte, who was a top prospect ped suspension,

474
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: now seemingly does not have a spot with Cincinnati at all.

475
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: Cincinnati then takes the leap with a Luis Robert being like, please,

476
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Speaker 1: we hope. But at the same time, they're not gonna

477
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: play Marte anyway, and it seems like Connor Phillips won't

478
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: have a spot either. So that's where I was thinking here,

479
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Speaker 1: upside downside, let's see if both guys just need to

480
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: change of scenery here.

481
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Speaker 3: I actually think that's like the that's the best, Like

482
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Speaker 3: I think that's the most realistic swap there where, Like

483
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 3: for the the Reds, the exposures minimal right for neck

484
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Speaker 3: crawl like you have it, And for a team that's

485
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Speaker 3: very worried about finances, you have a way to get

486
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Speaker 3: out of it worst case scenario, right, you can. If

487
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: he's a disaster, you can decline it. But I would

488
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Speaker 3: imagine that him and Cincinnati would not be a disaster.

489
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Speaker 3: And if he's where I do think the buy in

490
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: is the biggest part is the defense, right, and if

491
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: he's going out and playing a good center field like

492
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: we saw him playing twenty twenty three, even easier to

493
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: pick up that you know, potential twenty million dollar club option,

494
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: which should be a no brainer, Like, yeah, go ahead,

495
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: I would If he has a one hundred WRC plus

496
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: and plays great defense in center and steals twenty five bags,

497
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 3: it's a no brainer pick up. So yeah, I mean

498
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 3: that that would make a lot of sense. And like Phillips,

499
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: at this point, I think needs a change of scenery.

500
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: Nolovie Marte definitely needs a change of scenery, and and

501
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: I honestly think like it would. I guess the question

502
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: would then become would you take that bird in hand

503
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: if you're Chris Getz, or would you rather because that's

504
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: that's a gamble in itself too with those two players, right,

505
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: both hit an absolute wall last year. Phillips at least

506
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: came out the other side a little bit at the

507
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: end of the year found his command after going on

508
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Speaker 3: the development list. Would you rather roll the dice on

509
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: that on that return or would you rather roll the

510
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: dice on Louise? Hmm?

511
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Speaker 1: I am. I'm more worried he struggles again and in Chicago,

512
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: not to say that he's not talented that if he

513
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: goes to Cincinnati he won't struggle. My real worry is

514
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: that there will be zero buy in for him in Chicago.

515
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: That I'm really worried about it because you're talking about

516
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: the defense. There's no reason for that to start to

517
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: taper off. There's no reason, but it did, which tells

518
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Speaker 1: me that it's a buy in problem. So why would

519
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Speaker 1: he now buy into this? What's his.

520
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Speaker 3: Like the only motive would be to play well enough,

521
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Speaker 3: like because now he really realizes it, Like, the only

522
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 3: way out is to play better, Like that's that's the

523
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Speaker 3: only thing you'd have to hope for. But that might

524
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Speaker 3: not be enough of a motive motivator.

525
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Speaker 1: And wouldn't that be bad for the clubhouse, like a

526
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Speaker 1: guy who knows that he's only playing to get traded

527
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Speaker 1: and he's your best player.

528
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Speaker 3: Hypothetically, with these young guys coming up, I will say, like,

529
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't think Lewis Roberts like a stir

530
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: or anything like that, But I don't know if he's

531
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Speaker 3: the best quote unquote vet to have there to be

532
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: like ushering in the new guys. That is another point

533
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: where like, I don't know if i'd say follow Luis

534
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: Roberts lead right, like I don't. I don't know if

535
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: that's the standard I want set for the rest of

536
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 3: my place. And again I'm not saying he's like a

537
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: disaster or anything terrible, but he's definitely not a clubhouse

538
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: glue guy, I don't think from everything I've read and heard.

539
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: But if if, if he's consistently on the trade block,

540
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't be the greatest locker room guy.

541
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: No, there's no way. So I mean I think that

542
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: is you actually cooked on that. I I think if

543
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: you're surprised, I'm just surprised. I was prepared to pretty

544
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: much be like, I don't think it's gonna be worth

545
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: it for them, And because it's just it's just every

546
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 3: single mock trade I've seen anywhere, I'm like, I'd rather

547
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: just roll the dice on Robert. But I agree with

548
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: that Bartey, I think needs to get out of there. Yeah,

549
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: and they could use more infield depth without a doubt,

550
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: bring them up there like you got Colson Montgomery as well,

551
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 3: but like just they need more irons than the fire

552
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: Brian Ramos, like see who can figure it out? And

553
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: I honestly think nov he's gonna end up at first

554
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: base anyways. And then Phillips is a guy that stuff

555
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: wise is outrageous. The stuff is crazy. Worst case scenario,

556
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: He's a really good high leverage reliever with control, years

557
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: of control control throwing strikes wise is the thing that

558
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: he needs to figure out. But I think both those

559
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: guys getting in new situations. I know, I like people,

560
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: Oh the White Sox are they gonna develop them? I

561
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: think the White Sox development is better now, and especially

562
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: from the pitching side, I think i'd have more confidence

563
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: in them getting Phillips right. But you have a BiLaw

564
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: opportunity here on Anelvie Marte, who if he's anything close

565
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: to what he was, you know, a lot of people

566
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: expected him to be. It's a pretty pretty nice gap

567
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: for you.

568
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: And think about it, you know, the Red system, Well,

569
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: they also have more infield prospects coming up, like Edwin

570
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: Royle is one of their better prospects in the system.

571
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: So it's like even throughout we're not even talking about

572
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: the big league level after trading for Gavin Lux, we're

573
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: also talking about the minor league level and what this

574
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: team is like one great right handed outfield, bad a

575
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: way for being a real contender. Yeah, why not try

576
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: with Luis Robert?

577
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: So I think it wise to dude like that he

578
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: could be the player that puts them over the top.

579
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: But like, if you, let's say the White Sox want

580
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more, give them another prospect that is

581
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: in your top thirty, maybe.

582
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine, Like you can do that, but if

583
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: it's centered around those guys, like they're both kind of

584
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: are the odd man out at this point to your point,

585
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: and you could definitely throw in, you know, another prospect

586
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: in there and and make it a little bit more

587
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: intriguing for them, And that's not a bad and that's

588
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: not a bad option. I wish the Reds would do it.

589
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: I wish because that would really put them in a

590
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: spot where the upside is so immense that you can

591
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: really get excited about the Ball Cup. I already am,

592
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: like I like where they're at too, but that would

593
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: really put me over the top.

594
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Speaker 1: I also really like this buy in. I was listening

595
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: to a clip from our friends over at foul Territory

596
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: and Brent Souter was talking about the buy in that

597
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: the Reds have this year, that this is their year

598
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: to win. And outside of trading for Gavin Lux and

599
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: of course bringing Brady Singer in here, but you did

600
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: trade Jonathan India, make one more trade like this mm hm,

601
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: Like this is the final piece. We needed. A right

602
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: handed outfielder. I just got you all, Luise Robert. Let's

603
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 1: go win this division. That is gonna send shock waves,

604
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: Like even even if Luise Robert isn't super elite, even

605
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: if he's like above average, just that feeling for the

606
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: rest of the team, like, holy shit, we got Luise Robert, Like,

607
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: let's fucking go and they're gonna get the running. And

608
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: I think that'll help Robert.

609
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, I think Elie de la Cruz will be

610
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: a great win at the back of Luis Robert like that,

611
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: it's gonna be more motivating. I think just being able

612
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: to share a field with the guy that plays the

613
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: way that he does exactly.

614
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: And imagine those two in the middle of the lineup

615
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: when they're both clicking. Geez, lefty righty two. Oh, it's

616
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: such a good fit. All right, let's get to question

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00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: number three? Ready, Yes, all right, this is a great one.

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00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: Who's one player you guys are confident is going to

619
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: have a bounce back season this year? As that's by

620
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: oh Geary twenty nine on Instagram. Also did I mention

621
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: who asked the question on the last one? It's a

622
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: great name. I think I might have forgotten Loose and

623
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: Groovy Baseball Show on Instagram. That's great, phenomenal handle. So

624
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: I got my guy. I also have a guy on

625
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: the pitching side. Do you want to go first? Do

626
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: you want me to?

627
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? I got one hit or one pitcher as well?

628
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: Pitcher great Gavin Williams for me. I just I think one.

629
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: He's going to be in a pretty important role for

630
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: the Guardians this year, and I think it's been a priority.

631
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: It's going to be a priority for them to help

632
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: get him right, kind of get him back to where

633
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: he needs to be, where we saw him in his

634
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: big league debut and when he was one of the

635
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: best pitching prospects in baseball. Health I think affected his

636
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: release a little bit. You know, when guys have shoulder problems,

637
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: it can change kind of the orientation of their throws,

638
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: and I think that's exactly what happened with Gavin last year.

639
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: So when the release point changed a little bit, I

640
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: think it affected the movement profile and the fastball kind

641
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: of lost a little bit of that vert in that

642
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: ride and started to have a little bit more like

643
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: a flatter, dead zone shape. But he still gets really

644
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: good extension and just being able to be healthy. We

645
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: saw his fastball up a tick, So we're talking about

646
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 3: a guy that gets plus extension with a fastball. It's

647
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: really plus plus extension with a fastball that was up

648
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: a tick averaging ninety six and a half. Like, if

649
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: he can get to a point where he can start

650
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: to generate the same level of vert and really get

651
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: the shapes going the way that he had them in

652
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: the past, which I think he can now that he's

653
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: healthy and removed from the shoulder issues. The curveball is

654
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: an absolut banger. The slider is a good pitch as

655
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: well when he's commanding it. And that fastball has in

656
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: the past flashed, you know, comfortably plus and borderline plus plus.

657
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: So if he can get that fastball where he wants

658
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: it to be again, I think that's a dude that's

659
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: still just twenty five years old. He's in the perfect

660
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: situation to kind of tweak things back to where he

661
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: needs them to be. And again, he's a really important

662
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: part of what the Guardians are going to be trying

663
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: to do next year. I think, being a full year

664
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: removed from some of the discomfort that he was dealing with,

665
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: I expect Gavin Williams to bounce back in a big

666
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: way next year.

667
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: So I understand the angle that you're coming from here.

668
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: It's more of Gavin Williams takes that next step that

669
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: we kind of thought he would last year and he

670
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: didn't really get there. I'm looking at a guy who

671
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: has now been in the league for a few seasons

672
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: and is coming off his worst season and was actually

673
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: sent down during the year, and I'm hoping that him

674
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: getting sent down was a message up here for all

675
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: those looking at YouTube, I'm pointing to my head a

676
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: message to Camillo Dovall of the San Francisco Giants. I'm

677
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: gonna continue to stand by this guy because the numbers

678
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: last year weren't even that bad in terms of the

679
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: expected numbers. Right, four eight eight era really bad and

680
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: even got sent down walk rate fourteen percent not good,

681
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: but he still had a three four four expected era.

682
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: He still shruk up batters at a twenty nine percent rate.

683
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: The stuff in a vacuum is still unbelievably elite. I mean,

684
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: it's a wipeout slider. It's a ninety nine mile an

685
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: hour cutter with a ninety eight mile an hour sinker.

686
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: If this guy can get back to doing Camillo dov

687
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: All things right, if we're talking about a bounce back,

688
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: this guy was a two nine to three ERA in

689
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, two five three era in twenty twenty two,

690
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: and I know twenty twenty one it was just a

691
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 1: cup of coffee, but still a three point zero zero

692
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: era with with incredible advanced numbers as well. This guy's

693
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: got wipeout stuff. I still think he can be a

694
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: top ten closer in baseball. That's the type of pitcher

695
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: I see with Camelo Dovall. It's just he had to

696
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: welcome to the Bigs type season where it went really

697
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: bad for him San Francisco. They obviously had problems internally.

698
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: Send him back down. I'm looking for him to come

699
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: back up and re establish himself as one of the

700
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: better relievers in Major League Baseball, and potentially the Giants

701
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: slot him back into the closer role even though Ryan

702
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: Walker fully took over that and deserves to be that

703
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: closer on opening Day. Maybe he's a trade piece. I

704
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: don't know. I still still believe in this arm.

705
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: I mean, the stuff's crazy. That's a buy in guy

706
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: as well. I think there and I think the team

707
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: being more competitive this year, which we'll get to in

708
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: a couple questions, Like I think there might be a

709
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 3: little bit more reason to just, Okay, put whatever personal

710
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: reft is aside here and like you have a chance

711
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: to pitch a high leverage for a team that you

712
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: know could make some waves this year. But you know,

713
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: with Gavin, the way I was looking at it is

714
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: he made sixteen starts in twenty three, had a three

715
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: two nine ERA in the big leagues and then sixteen

716
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: starts in twenty four and it was a four to

717
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: eight six. So like just being able to get back

718
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: to that low threes and then up the innings, I

719
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: absolutely think he can get to where he needs to be.

720
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: And then on the offensive side. Nolan Jones, for me,

721
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: like what he did as a rookie was outrageous, right,

722
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: Like he had an unbelievable season. And then again another

723
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: guy that I think like sometimes players come back from

724
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: injury and we kind of forget that they were injured,

725
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: and I think they're not themselves and we're just like

726
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: watching them struggle on the field and forget that they

727
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: were dealing with an injury. Like this is a dude

728
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: that in twenty twenty three, in one hundred and six games,

729
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: hit twenty bombs, hit a nine to thirty one ops.

730
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: He's still twenty bags as well and hit twenty two

731
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: doubles Like the twenty twenty twenty across the board is crazy.

732
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: The approach is so good. He hits the ball incredibly hard.

733
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: He I think just between hitting the ball as hard

734
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: as he does and the swing decisions that he consistently makes,

735
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: there is no reason for this guy to have a

736
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: six forty one ops next year. He couldn't slug at

737
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: all this past season. It was seventy games when he

738
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: wasn't hurt, he had a three twenty slug. To me,

739
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: that's just a guy that physically wasn't where he wanted

740
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: to be, and I think was trying to fight through

741
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: it and play through it and just was a shell

742
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 3: of himself. I mean, we've seen him move well both

743
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 3: like in the outfield, didn't do that nearly as well

744
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: this past year either. He has one of the strongest

745
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 3: arms in Major League Baseball and the outfield. I think

746
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: he's a really dynamic player that with his ability to

747
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 3: walk in the evs and then stealing bags as well,

748
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have a big year this year

749
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: and bounce back after kind of a lost season.

750
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with you. Watching Nolan Jones last year,

751
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: it felt like I was watching a different player, and

752
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: I think that had to do with, you know what

753
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about from a health perspective. But you know,

754
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: of course, pitchers now keing in on him, being like,

755
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: all right, Nolan Jones is like the guy to watch

756
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: out for in this lineup. I think just a lot

757
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: of factors at hand here. But you know, from what

758
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: you were saying, I definitely agree with you there on

759
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: Nolan Jones. Mine is easy and it's kind of a

760
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: cop out, but I just can't help myself. Michael Harris. Yeah,

761
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: and it's not. I know everyone, Like I said, it's

762
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: a very easy one. Right. He's coming off a twenty

763
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: twenty four season where sixteen home runs, ten stolen bases,

764
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: slash two sixty four three h four four eighteen all

765
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: career lows for him. Just another reminder, Michael Harris is

766
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: gonna be twenty four years old. And that's why I

767
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily a cop out, because I just

768
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: wanted to remind people that this guy is two years

769
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: younger than Nadlie Rutchman, Right, And we use Addley Ruchmand

770
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: kinda as a scale here for you know, young players

771
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: in this game at just twenty four years old. And

772
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: instead of just saying I think he can bounce back

773
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: to the eight to zero eight ops he wasn't twenty

774
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: twenty three, I'm gonna go a step farther and say

775
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: that we get a Jackson Merrill type season from him

776
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: with even a little bit more upside because I think

777
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: that there's more upside than some of these on base skills,

778
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: you know from Michael Harris. I'd love to see him

779
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: walk at a six seven percent rate this year instead

780
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: of the four and a half to five that he's

781
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: been doing. I'm also looking at a couple of swing

782
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: decisions that he made. You could tell that his poll

783
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: rate was up, that he was trying to pull more flyballs,

784
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: which is generally a good thing, but I think it

785
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: led to a little bit more swing and miss. I

786
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: think it just kind of got him out of his

787
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: element a little bit, you know, as a hitter, still

788
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: trying to you know, develop himself and find who he

789
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: truly is as a hitter. I think this guy's twenty

790
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: five home run upside. I think he has twenty stolen

791
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: bases in the tank. But he's also a guy who

792
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: hit two sixty four and the advanced metrics tell us

793
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: he got very very unlucky right three seventy x Wilber

794
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. He was also two eighty four

795
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: expected batting average three forty four x wolbe. Excuse me.

796
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: Just good quality of contact and just the guy who

797
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: I think is is on the precipice of being one

798
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: of the best center fielders in baseball.

799
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: He was hurt as well, you know, and dealt with

800
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: that hammy and it was a pretty bad one that

801
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: kept him out for a while. So just getting his

802
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: legs back under him, I think took some time, And

803
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: I mean we saw that as a result and as

804
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: a hitter, But he hits the living crap out of

805
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: the ball for like his size, he's six foot, one

806
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five pounds, Like he really, really really

807
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: hits the ball hard. The thing with him that's always

808
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: been frustrating is just how often he puts it on

809
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: the ground. And I think that's that's just the one

810
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: thing we're waiting on here, right Like, if he can

811
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: get it in the air a little bit more consistently,

812
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: we can see that power uptick for sure, And it's

813
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: just kind of waiting on that front. But I think

814
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 3: just naturally getting healthy, if he can be any little

815
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: bit more selective than he is right he chases it

816
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: like a forty percent clip. If he can even cut

817
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: that down to the mid thirties to low thirties, I

818
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: think it makes a world of a difference. You can't

819
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: teach the bat speed. You can't teach just just the

820
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 3: raw ability that he has, and I think that's why

821
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: he's definitely a guy that's gonna put together a much

822
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: better season now that he'll be healthy, hopefully for the

823
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: entirety of it.

824
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And before we get to question number four, just

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Speaker 1: of that quick break all right, question number four, what

837
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: is a realistic return for Pablo Lopez if the Twins

838
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: were to shop him, could he met them a player

839
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: of the caliber of Kobe Mayo of the Baltimore Orioles

840
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: This was asked by Shaa n Underscore Don eight on Instagram.

841
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: So when I saw this question, I thought to myself,

842
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: are the twins really shopping Pablo Lopez? And then I

843
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: looked it up. Multiple reports that the twins are at

844
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: least listening, and if they're at least listening, they could

845
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: be intrigued by a prospect package and probably end up

846
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: dealing for him, dealing him in the right deal. So

847
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: that's what we're here to do. Arm Let's deal him

848
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: in the right deal. So just to look at his

849
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: contract again, he's making twenty one point seventy five million

850
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: over three years, so basically begetting Pablo Lopez for about

851
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: three years sixty four ish million dollars. Paul Lopez, of course,

852
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: is coming off a rough season from an er perspective,

853
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: but I think we saw us towards the tail end

854
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: of the year, and if you look at his underlying metrics,

855
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: that was a little bit of a blip in the radar.

856
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: We talked about it during the middle of the season.

857
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: He was leaving fastball's middle middle all the time and

858
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: just getting pelted. That's not the Pablo Lopez we know.

859
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Paul Lopez has much better commanded the strike zone. Than that,

860
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: he still has great stuff. He has years of control,

861
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: He's not that old. This is a guy who I

862
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: be iding form if I was another team that I

863
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: would really really want to add to my rotation because

864
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: he has ace upside but also the downside of him.

865
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: He's still going to eat plenty of innings for you

866
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: and still be a productive pitcher. So we got a

867
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: couple of teams who might be interested in the Pablo Lopez.

868
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: What'd you think?

869
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there should be a lot of teams.

870
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: I just wonder how many are still in the market

871
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: of taking on twenty two million dollars. It should be

872
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: every single one essentially, but uh, you know how it

873
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: is here, and I think that's that's part of the

874
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: reason why the Twins are. They're going to move anybody.

875
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: This is the guy that trims the payroll the most,

876
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: and they have, you know, a ton of arms, not

877
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 3: Pablo Lopez caliber, but you know, then they could create

878
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: room for David Festa and Sabbie Matthews and some of

879
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: these other guys where they could justify it to themselves,

880
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: but clearly like this is you know, their best arm.

881
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: And in the second half he had a two seven

882
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: to seven era. The one thing with me, though, is

883
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: I wonder if teams are just wary that Pablo Lopez

884
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: is just a very streaky pitcher that is going to be,

885
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: you know, front line type through stretches and then as

886
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: you said, like miss middle middle through stretches and somehow

887
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: settle every single year, whether it's a good first half

888
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: or bad first half, and good first half for bad

889
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: second half. It kind of flip flops some years and

890
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: just settle with like a three to five and three

891
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: seconds Like is that what he is? I don't even

892
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: really fully know at this point, but he's definitely a

893
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: difficult player I think to figure out exactly who he is.

894
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: And I wonder if that puts teams off a little bit.

895
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: I think again, any team would be excited to add him,

896
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: But how much prospect capital are you going to give

897
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: up on top of taking on the sixty almost sixty

898
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: five million dollars.

899
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough because I want to I d some

900
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: teams who haven't really done anything and haven't really spent

901
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: which kind of makes me think that they don't want

902
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: to take on a contract like Pablo Lopez's. But there

903
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: are two teams that I idd that I'm forcing them

904
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: to do so because they should. And I'm looking at

905
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: a team like the Atlanta Braves, and I'm looking at

906
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: a team like the Baltimore Orioles, who they already mentioned

907
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: in the Kobe Mayo deal. The Braves, Braves Twitter is

908
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: on fire like they they did chill out like alex

909
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: Anthopolis right now, which I can understand. You're sitting there

910
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: in an off season. You're seeing the Mets sin Juan Soto,

911
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: You're seeing the Phillies trade for Jesus and Zarto, and

912
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, making more moves and you're thinking to yourself,

913
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: why are we not competing here? I understand where the

914
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: Braves are coming from, because you're not really going to

915
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: add to the offense, like, okay, they didn't sign Willia Damas.

916
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: Maybe they're hoping for a little bit of a bounce

917
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: back from Orlando Arcia, potentially Nacho Alvarez coming up through

918
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: the ranks, and then the rotation, right they know they're

919
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: going to get Strider back. Can they weather the storm

920
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: with Grant Holmes and Ian Anderson at the back of

921
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: the rotation until Shreider gets back, and then whoever wins

922
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: that job, wins that job. Of course you got a J. Smith, Shaffer, Herson,

923
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: Waltrip of course coming up J. L. Richie. So they

924
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: got irons in the fire. But do you want to

925
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: compete really with the Dodgers here? Do you want to

926
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: win this division going away? Do you want to get

927
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: back to one hundred wins? And you haven't spent anything yet.

928
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: I think that the Braves should be in on Pablo Lopez,

929
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: and then of course the Orioles of course, right like Sigano,

930
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 1: Charlie Morton, Trevor Rodgers. These are arms that you want

931
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: that you're good with pitching in August when one of

932
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: your guys already went down, not guys who you expect

933
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: to go one hundred and seventy innings this season. I

934
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: think he gets to Dean Kramer and then it drops off.

935
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: Maybe Morton gets away from father time for one more

936
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: year and is able to give you that, But you

937
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 1: can't expect better than a four to two four three

938
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: era and that's not going to get you to the

939
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: promised Land. A guy like Pablo Opez with his upside

940
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: can so. But what would they be willing to give up?

941
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: And my first question to you is to kind of

942
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: gauge where you're at with Pablo Lopez. Is Samuel Bissio

943
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: too much?

944
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I think so. I don't. I don't see.

945
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: I don't see them doing that on while also taking

946
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: on the money that they'd be taken on at that point.

947
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: I think it'd be too steep because they could have

948
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: just signed, you know, try to sign somebody and given

949
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: up a compic and they didn't want to do that

950
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: because they didn't want to give up the compick. So

951
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: I don't think it's too different, like where you're trading

952
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 3: a top prospect and then taking on that money as well.

953
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't see how Mayo or the way

954
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: Michael ISAs is operated to this point. I just would

955
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 3: be shocked that now it's it's Mayo or Bisio going

956
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: for a Pablo Lopez.

957
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I didn't think they would trade Bisio either.

958
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: I more wanted to gauge, like what would a package

959
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: look like, and that a prospect of Besio's caliber is too.

960
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: Much too much? I would say so.

961
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: I think the Braves are actually the team that is

962
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: more likely to do it than the Orioles, Like we

963
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: want the Oriels to do it. They totally can do it,

964
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: but we know that they won't, and another team that

965
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: probably won't either. But maybe I think it's the Atlanta Braves.

966
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be either Walterrip or A. J. Smith,

967
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: Shauvor or or Drake Baldwin. I think they want to

968
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: trade Drake Baldwin.

969
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing that's weird with Baldwin though,

970
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: is like Sean Murphy's not going anywhere. I know he

971
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: had a bad year last year, but he was hurt

972
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: and like dealt with that oblique all year. They felt

973
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: like that was a big reason why he struggled. Like

974
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: this guy is a year removed from back to back

975
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: five war seasons. Yeah, as their catcher. And the problem

976
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 3: is you can't really rotate anybody through the DH spot

977
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: because and it's a good problem because you've got one

978
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: of the bestdhs in the game in Marcello's you know,

979
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: but you can't rotate anybody through the d H spot.

980
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: So are you gonna have Drake Baldwin just sitting there

981
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: on the bench playing twice a week once once or

982
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: twice a week.

983
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: Can Baldwin play the outfield?

984
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 4: He's never done it. He's athletic, but he's never done it.

985
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 4: They haven't even remember watching it. I remember watching with

986
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 4: the Futures game. I was like, this guy could I

987
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 4: think this guy could play corner as well. He's so

988
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: athletic and he was in the Fall League. They didn't

989
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 4: have him play anywhere else.

990
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but never mind, because you're not moving him to

991
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: first with Medals, and you're not moving him to catcher

992
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: with Sean Murphy, and you're not moving him to d H.

993
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: So I get it, but he'd be a tough guy

994
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: for Braves Nation, Braves Country to give up. But again,

995
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: you're getting Pablo Lopez and then you slot him into

996
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: rotation with Chris Sale when Spezish Stryder comes back, Rainaldo,

997
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: Lopez and Schwellenbach. I mean, we're cooking here. We can

998
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: give up a prospect of this sort of deal. Yeah,

999
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm okay with doing it, and I was. I mean,

1000
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: the they just drafted.

1001
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: I think a couple catchers in this past draft, like

1002
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: overslatted a guy in the fifth round and thoughtless has

1003
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: had success with backstops in the past. Baldwin is actually

1004
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: an example of that. Obviously, I think they'd rather not

1005
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: move him in a lot of situations, but like Baldwin

1006
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: to triple A would just be a waste of time

1007
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: and then you'd just be stashing him in the big

1008
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: leagues and he'd barely be playing. I think the Twins

1009
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: would prefer Baldwin because they've got a ton of arms,

1010
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: you know, I think in the upper miners or guys

1011
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: that they could plug in immediately, and I think future

1012
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 3: behind the dish.

1013
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I was just gonna say, what's their

1014
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: answer after Ryan Jeffers because Ryan Jefferson is just twenty

1015
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: seven years old, but he's got about two years left.

1016
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: And then what I was looking at their system not

1017
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: a lot of catching prospects.

1018
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: No, no, and and I mean even when you look

1019
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 3: at the situation now, like Christian Vasquez is is your backup,

1020
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: you probably would love to just dfahm or dump him

1021
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: at some point. This is a team that just claimed

1022
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: Diego Kartaya, right like they they and they I think

1023
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: they parted with the prospect to be able to get him,

1024
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: but like their catching depth is so thin that they

1025
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: just claimed, you know, Diego Kartaia to bring put him

1026
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: on the forty men roster immediately right after the Dodgers,

1027
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: do you fade him?

1028
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: Like?

1029
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: To me, that's kind of indicative of a team that

1030
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: is eager for some some catching help there for sure.

1031
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: And this is a team that can rotate the DH

1032
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: spot a little bit more too, to where if you

1033
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: want to keep Jeffers and Baldwin in the lineup at

1034
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: points because guys are banged up or whatever it may be,

1035
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 3: you can do that, right. Jeffers DH thirty four games

1036
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 3: last year, And I think Baldwin has a chance to

1037
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: develop into a pretty good defender. I thin where Jeffers

1038
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: has gotten. He's fine, but you know, I think you

1039
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: might even get to a point where Baldwin's actually a

1040
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: better defender than Jeffers, and Jeffers can start to DH

1041
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: a little bit more too.

1042
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: Do you think it'd be and Baldwin.

1043
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: Baldwin with the trade like on top of Baldwin.

1044
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it would be Baldwin and for Lopez. Or

1045
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: do you think bald.

1046
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: Maybe like a flyer. Baldwin's good man, he's a really

1047
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: good player. I think Baldwin and you know, maybe maybe

1048
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 3: an arm like a Caid Keeler or something like that.

1049
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Was there any other teams you I did because I

1050
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: just think that one's the perfect fit. The of course,

1051
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: is a great fit. But will they do.

1052
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: It with the freaking Orioles? Yeah, the Cubs. I think

1053
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: the Cubs have a lot of upper minors prospects that

1054
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: they'd probably be willing to part with and a deal here,

1055
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: and seemingly they're okay with taking on some money, and

1056
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: I'd like to get a right hander in the fold there.

1057
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: And like, I think a Kevin Alcantra or James Trianto's

1058
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: headlining a deal would be very similar to a Drake

1059
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: Baldwin headlining a deal, I would. I think Baldwin's better

1060
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: than both of those guys. But in the grand scheme,

1061
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 3: I think public perception is not too different there. And yeah,

1062
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: maybe with a couple more complimentary pieces with al Contra

1063
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 3: or Treanto's, but I could see the Cubs definitely being

1064
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: interested in something like that as well anybody else.

1065
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: I like the Cubs fit a lot. Instead of talking

1066
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: about other teams, we can finalize the Cubs deal and

1067
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: kind of see which one we like better. So if

1068
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: it was Kevin al Contra, because Trianto's like we've talked

1069
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: about him so much on the show, and I didn't

1070
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: know much about him, and I've like really started to

1071
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: look into him as looking at the numbers. I was

1072
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: watching some video and I'm like, he like, you hope

1073
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: he slugs three fifty.

1074
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: The slug is light, for sure, It's it's.

1075
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: So light, and you just you gotta hope a lot

1076
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: of stuff works for him to be productive at the

1077
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: big league level. I think, like for me, I would

1078
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: be after a guy with like Kevin al Kantar because

1079
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: I think his projection and his upside is much higher.

1080
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: So oh, for sure that someone would rather grab you

1081
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 3: guarantee He's a guy that could guarantee go out and

1082
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 3: play center field for you, like defensively tomorrow.

1083
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: And I think as though Twins do have a lot

1084
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: of outfield prospects right their outfield is kind of filled

1085
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: right now. And then of course you have Walker Jenkins,

1086
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: one of the best prospects in baseball. You have Emmanuel

1087
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: Rodriguez another one of the best prospects in baseball, so

1088
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: they really want an outfielder. So it's like I'd rather

1089
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: Kevin on Katara the prospect in a vacuum. But maybe

1090
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: Treanto's is more of the answer, But isn't Treanto's just

1091
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: kind of like Edward Julienne sort of.

1092
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 3: Like in a different way, like in a total like

1093
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: different but to mention what you're saying from like a

1094
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: positional value perspective. Yeah, like it's second base, and you

1095
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 3: know he's come along a little bit to be able

1096
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: to play like a passable third. But I think he

1097
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: might almost be a breath of fresh air there. I

1098
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of similarities to to brooks Lee

1099
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: in terms of like bats ball is really really good

1100
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: and then it's it's like, okay, well what else are

1101
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: you getting here? But I think I think there's a

1102
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: lot of people in the industry that really do like

1103
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 3: him and and Treanto's and I could I could see

1104
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: I could see the Twins being excited about getting a

1105
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: player of just just his hit caliber coming out like

1106
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 3: it's it's such an easy plus hit tool. He was

1107
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 3: a menace on the base paths last year as well,

1108
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 3: and forty plus bags, I think so, so I could

1109
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 3: see just them wanting a high floor prospect, a guy

1110
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 3: that plugs in immediately, and I think you can find

1111
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: a spot for him, like they've tried him in the

1112
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: outfield a little bit again, he's played some second, he's

1113
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: played some third. He can kind of be a super

1114
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 3: utility guy for you, kind of the way that Willie

1115
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 3: Castro has been, so that that could be an option

1116
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: for them, And you can start him in triple A too,

1117
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: because I think there's there's definitely some things that he

1118
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: could just work on in triple A and just continuing

1119
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: to tap into a little bit more power. So it's

1120
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: not like you got to force him right in there tomorrow.

1121
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: And I don't think he grabs a forty spot yet,

1122
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: So I think that would be that'd be the best

1123
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: fit for them, I think, but they could probably use

1124
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: a right handed hitting outfielder at the same time as well.

1125
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: Like I know they've got other guys coming up, like

1126
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 3: you said, but Manul Rodriguez played forty four games last

1127
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: year because of the thumb issue and he's continuously been hurt.

1128
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: Trevor Larnix a left handed hitting outfielder, Matt Warner's a

1129
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: left handed hitting outfielder, and Byron Buxton is you want

1130
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: to backup plan for Byron Buxton, So like they could say, hey,

1131
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: why not just add another outfielder who can really go

1132
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: get it? But I could also see with the uncertainty

1133
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 3: health wise with Royce Lewis, brooks Lee has yet to

1134
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: prove anything. Jose Miranda was hurt and kind of had

1135
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: a little bit of a down year, but then bounce

1136
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: back and it was fine but still good. I would

1137
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: probably argue they could use some some infield depth more

1138
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: than anything, So I think Triontos would be a good

1139
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: get for them.

1140
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: I feel like if I'm if I'm the Twins GM,

1141
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm just keeping them instead of getting Treanto's like I

1142
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: would just keep Pablo up as our team is still

1143
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: going to be pretty damn good. I know we want

1144
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: to cut some payroll but I'm looking at the Twins

1145
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: roster and thinking to myself, this team can win the division.

1146
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: I think you get their bullpen is still great. I

1147
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: still think that the rotation is very solid. I expect

1148
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: Joe Ryan have a big year, and their lineup is

1149
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: still really solid if they stay healthy. So if I'm

1150
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: the Twins, Drake Baldwin I think is the perfect prospect

1151
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: piece that fits into my system. So what I would

1152
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: be doing is calling AA and saying we do want Baldwin.

1153
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: If you're willing to give us Baldwin and I'd be

1154
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: willing to trade you Pablo Lopez if AA says no,

1155
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: I think I just keep them. I don't think I

1156
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: want either of the Cubs guys. I don't think it's

1157
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: worth it to trade Pablo for because I agree with you.

1158
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: I think they could both make sense and they're both intriguing.

1159
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: But I still don't think it's worth it if I'm

1160
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: the Twins because Paul Lopez, I still think it's fantastic

1161
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: and like, you still have for three more years. And

1162
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: I know he's expensive, but maybe you can then trade

1163
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: him at the deadline or something and maybe get a

1164
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, a team that's more desperate. But I just

1165
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't trade him now for those two guys that you

1166
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: name from the Cubs.

1167
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're asking me which package I would

1168
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: rather have, and I'm in the Twin situation, it's Baldwin.

1169
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: It's not even close to your point. And I mean Baldwin.

1170
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: Of course, you're losing Pablo Lopez. You're not getting better,

1171
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 3: but in terms of like if you're going to get

1172
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: a prospect back that could actually help you mainta trake,

1173
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: Baldwin will help you this year and beyond, like without

1174
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 3: a doubt and having that catching tandem of Jeffers and

1175
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: Baldwin and extremely exciting. And then also we're talking about

1176
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: a team that has some payroll concerns and everything. You

1177
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: now have the catching position accounted for at the minimum

1178
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: for the next few years, like at the big league minimum,

1179
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: and then Jeffers can still be that guy for using

1180
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: he's cheap relatively speaking, but can then now DH a

1181
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 3: little bit and fill that role as well. Maybe you

1182
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: start having him play a little bit more first base.

1183
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: But I think that is by far would be the

1184
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: best player that they could get and I think would

1185
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: fit like a glove for them. And in terms of

1186
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: the Lopez fit, you know, the one thing that's interesting

1187
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: is if you take out his Braves starts, I think

1188
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: his career numbers would be like way better. The Braves

1189
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: have always crushed like fastball, change up Marlins guys and

1190
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: pob wo and his career against the Braves fourteen starts

1191
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: a five to four zero era obviously would never be

1192
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: facing the Braves if he plays for them, Like he

1193
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 3: really doesn't have any other teams that he has struggled

1194
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: that much against. Like I think the Braves have comfortably

1195
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: been the team that he struggles the most against, So

1196
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: that almost would make me want him more. The thing

1197
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: that doesn't help is the next I think biggest struggle

1198
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: for him is probably the Mets. But the Mets are

1199
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: a different team, I think, yeah, but the Braves aren't,

1200
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: and so I like that would almost make me want

1201
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: him more at that.

1202
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: Point, Braves, Nation, Braves Country, would you make this move?

1203
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: I think you would, But let us know in the

1204
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: comment section below. Twins Twins fans, what do we think

1205
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: willing to trade Pablo Lopez if we can get Drake

1206
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: Baldwin and not just Drake Baldwin? Would need Drake Baldwin

1207
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: and another prospect? All right? And let us know of

1208
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: course in the YouTube comments below. Question number five, based

1209
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: on current rosters, how would you rank all divisions in

1210
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: order of competitiveness? This is asked by atl Braves sixty

1211
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: nine me on Twitter? Correct whatever? I got my six

1212
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: ranked in order? Do you want to go first? Or

1213
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: we'll go? Who do you have? Number? One? I have

1214
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: the National League West?

1215
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: Me too, Yeah, I want to go, Like we'll go

1216
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: together at the same time, one by one. When I

1217
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 3: was putting this together, I was like, Oh, I can't

1218
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 3: wait to see what Pete's got.

1219
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: I know it's kinne of fun because we haven't really

1220
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: done this, like, for whatever reason, never talked about it,

1221
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: asked this question like who's the best division? And we've

1222
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: kind of talked about it when we just talk about

1223
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: general MLB stuff, but not like actually ranked.

1224
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: Them, never actually ranked it. It's only usually just what

1225
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: is the best division right now? And then the conversation

1226
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: ends there. I've never We've never been like, yo, dude,

1227
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: like who do you think is the fourth best division

1228
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 3: right now? So I'm really curious to see, like where

1229
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: you rank them next? So who you got it too?

1230
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: With the NA what's easy for you? I mean you

1231
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: got the Dodgers, you got the best team in baseball.

1232
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: The Padres I still think are good, but we'll talk

1233
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: about them a little bit. The Diamondbacks I think are

1234
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: going to be discus. I think they're gonna be nasty.

1235
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: I think the Giants are gonna be pretty good.

1236
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: I think.

1237
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: And they can play Colorado at home. You might lose sometimes,

1238
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: they won't be worse.

1239
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 3: They won't be worse. They got tyro Strada. They finally

1240
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: announced it. It was for me, it was like anything

1241
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 3: that the Padres lost, the Diamondbacks then made up for it,

1242
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 3: and then the Giants have made up for it, and

1243
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 3: also the Dodgers have have somehow gotten better as well.

1244
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: So to me, it was it was pretty easy on

1245
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 3: the NLS side.

1246
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: N least number two.

1247
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: That's what I got.

1248
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: That's what you got to I mean, I'm just looking

1249
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: at you got the Matt's Addingjuan Soto of course, and

1250
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: then they still went to the NLCS last year. You

1251
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: got the Phillies, who are still one of the best

1252
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: teams in baseball. You got the Atlanta Braves, still one

1253
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: of the best teams in.

1254
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: And they're gonna be better. And they're gonna, like, no

1255
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 3: matter what, the Braves like, will be better this year.

1256
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: I like, they were so hurt last season, so just

1257
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 3: by by mirror, just matter of being healthy, they're gonna

1258
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 3: be better.

1259
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: Just playing more baseball. With how talented they are, you

1260
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: just need more games in the sample, and this sample

1261
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: is gonna be the good one. We love the Nationals

1262
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: as one of these teams where right there was a

1263
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: lot of questions like who's your breakout team, Who's a

1264
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: team that is the middle of the road that you

1265
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: think is going to take the next step. We've answered

1266
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot of variations of those questions on the Just

1267
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: Baseball Show kind of the even since the beginning of

1268
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: last year, the Nationals have been on our mind the

1269
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: entire time. So you have the Nationals to the fold there,

1270
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: and to be honest, the Marlins, I think you're gonna

1271
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: be kind of fun.

1272
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: They're not gonna be a old way. They're not gonna

1273
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: be as miserable. The Brax and Garrett news unfortunate. Yes,

1274
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: that stinks. I'm glad we remember to talk about that

1275
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: quickly because I would have forgot. But that does suck.

1276
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: Tommy John surgery for Braxton Garrett, and I think almost

1277
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 3: ensures that the Marlins are going to sign. Everyone's the

1278
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: time having the Marlins have spent no money, and as

1279
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: they should, it should be brought up plenty.

1280
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: They should be made fun of.

1281
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: Yes, this is going to be a way for them

1282
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,479
Speaker 3: to like say, hey, we spent and they'll probably sign

1283
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 3: Patrick Corbin on a one year, six million dollar deal

1284
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: and hope that they can flip him or something. But

1285
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: I'd almost say to guarantee that they now go sign

1286
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 3: an arm because you have Sandy who you're probably gonna trade.

1287
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Speaker 3: But regardless coming off of TJ. Yury, who's gonna have

1288
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: a delayed return off of TJ. Ryan Weathers was hurt,

1289
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, on and off last year and then was

1290
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: hurt at the end of the season. Like there's there's

1291
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: a bunch Edward Cabrera, I don't need to tell you

1292
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: anything about health wise with him, and like they're gonna

1293
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 3: need another arm there. So I could see them adding

1294
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: on that front. But to the point of like the

1295
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 3: divisions and getting back to the conversation there, like I

1296
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: don't think they're losing one hundred games this year. I

1297
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 3: think I think I would take over sixty two wins.

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01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think I would.

1299
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: We have the mid sixties. Yeah, so that maybe comes back.

1300
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: Let's say Sandy comes back and shoves then gets traded

1301
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: maybe but maybe not.

1302
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: See young guys are starting to come up, Like, yeah,

1303
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: it's fifty.

1304
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: I can see Zevier Edwards goes forty forty somehow.

1305
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: Watch watch what's gonna happen next. Then the Marlins have

1306
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: to spend, like they're gonna like get forced into spending

1307
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 3: because of the little threatens of a grievance. They're like

1308
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 3: they're gonna just do like what the A's did with

1309
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 3: with Rooker right where it's gonna be like, oh, Xavier Edwards,

1310
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 3: you're you're playing pretty well, here's a pre orb extension

1311
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 3: of like.

1312
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: You're seven years forty million.

1313
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, like legitly and honestly, like that's great, Like I

1314
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: don't think that'll age poorly, but like that's gonna be

1315
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: their spending. If you'rey's healthy, it'll be like, here's a

1316
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: pre arm deal for you too, like and honestly, if

1317
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 3: you're gonna force a spend, like I guess that's the

1318
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: way to do it. But they're gonna sign a free

1319
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: agent pitcher.

1320
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: But if you're out of it, it is. If you're

1321
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: a young Marlins player, you're probably happy. Like all I

1322
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: gotta do is play pretty well. The Marlins will just

1323
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: hand me free money because they have to.

1324
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, that's what I was thinking about.

1325
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, some of these pre arm guys, like

1326
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 3: you're not just playing for like an opportunity.

1327
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: You might be playing for a forced pre arm deal

1328
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars potentially after like a good

1329
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: first half. Gotta be excited that.

1330
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 3: David Bodie money.

1331
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: The only people excited to buy Abi Barlet's uh throughout

1332
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: is like seven of these young hitters and a couple

1333
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: of these young pitchers. Yep, all right, next one, I

1334
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: got the alias coming in thirds.

1335
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: Yep, I got the alias as well.

1336
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: Of course. I mean, the Yankees are still great. The

1337
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: Orioles are still gonna be good. For how much we

1338
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: make fun of them. They obviously still have a great

1339
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: young core. The Red Sox, I think, are a sleeping

1340
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: giant here. The Rays if they could just stay healthy,

1341
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: and you know, the Blue Jays kind of stink, but

1342
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: they can't be worse either.

1343
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna Yeah, I think every team

1344
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 3: actually they could be worse. They could be, but I

1345
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 3: think they have a chance to be better as well.

1346
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: And I agree the Rays I think will definitely be better.

1347
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 3: Is ugly as the offense kind of looks right now.

1348
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: The pitching situation is wild, and then they're gonna get

1349
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: some young reinforcements coming up, and that system is outrageous,

1350
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: like they've reloaded back to like raise farm system level again.

1351
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 3: But I think the big, like the big shift in

1352
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: this division now has been the Red Sox becoming what

1353
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 3: they're starting to become. Now. They're not an eighty one

1354
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: and eighty one team anymore. We'll see what the record is,

1355
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 3: but like, they're not a five hundred team anymore. And again,

1356
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: I think the Rays the odds of us seeing them

1357
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 3: finish under five hundred back to back years. I'm not

1358
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 3: saying they're going ninety games, but under five hundred back

1359
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 3: to back years. I'll take the over on them any

1360
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: day of the week.

1361
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have four teams in the American

1362
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: League East who have at least eighty two wins, so

1363
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: they're at least above five hundred. I agree, and I

1364
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: think another division might have the same. And I'm curious

1365
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: at number four if we diverge here. I got the

1366
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: American League Central.

1367
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 3: I got the AL Central.

1368
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: Damn it. I want a little bit of a debate,

1369
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: because debating five or six is dombin Like who cares? Yeah,

1370
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: I wanted this. It's in the notes right here, And honestly,

1371
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: the American League Central's right up there with the American

1372
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: League East.

1373
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: I will say I changed these different. I changed this

1374
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 3: one like probably an hour before we recorded. I had

1375
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 3: them a little I think I had them. I don't

1376
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: want to spoil it, but I had them like one

1377
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: spot back, and then I thought about it and I

1378
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 3: was like, dude, I mean where the Guardians are at, Yeah,

1379
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 3: where the Royals are at, and where the Tigers are at.

1380
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 3: It's just it's three teams that you can really see

1381
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: the upward trajectory here. I mean, there's not much more

1382
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 3: upward of ninety two wins from the Guardians, but like,

1383
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 3: I think you can look at them and say, hey,

1384
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 3: they ain't going anywhere, and then the upward trajectory of

1385
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 3: the Royals and the Tigers and the Twins. Like you

1386
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: just talked about the lineup like a lot of upside.

1387
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of upside there. And the White Sox

1388
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,439
Speaker 3: were taken over. I don't know about you. I'm taking

1389
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: over fifty wins this year.

1390
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: We have to. It's it's gonna be the podcast bet,

1391
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: just like we were the A's last year.

1392
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, I want to say, if we can get

1393
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: MGM to offer like a just baseball boost, if you

1394
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 3: take the White Sox over.

1395
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: Fifty, I'm not gonna go heavy. I went heavy on

1396
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: the A's. I'm not going heavy on the way because

1397
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: I don't even love the bet. Like I'm looking at

1398
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: their team and I they're they could be worse than

1399
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, they are horrible. They might be

1400
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: the were At least there were some pieces to be

1401
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: excited about, like Drew Thorpe and then what.

1402
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 3: Dude, but the live watch alongs of the White Sox

1403
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: as they pursue fifty wins will be a movie.

1404
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: So we have but we're good.

1405
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 3: But I do think odds are they're gonna be better

1406
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 3: than forty one wins. So odds are they'll be better

1407
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 3: than the worst team of all time. I and the

1408
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 3: Twins are the tough one. But I think that Royles

1409
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: and the Tigers, just like where they're at, They're only

1410
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 3: gonna get better. I think I this this division is

1411
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 3: better than the ones that are left.

1412
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: I still think the Twins are becoming one of the

1413
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: more underrated teams in baseball. I think they're gonna be good.

1414
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: I think they are gonna be.

1415
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: Dude.

1416
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: No, but I don't. I don't you and Jack do.

1417
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: I don't. So I'm okay in Twins country right now.

1418
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: Like I have been kind of threadned the needle a

1419
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: little bit. I think I'm okay, and then if I

1420
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: do it this year they suck again, We're done talking.

1421
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: We're done forever. I'm done. I got, I.

1422
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: Got one more year, okay, two years. You've got like

1423
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: a half take left, Yeah, I got. I do have

1424
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: like a half takeloft. You could like support me, and

1425
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: that's okay, you can't.

1426
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 3: I'll decide if I want to endorse. I mean to

1427
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 3: Korea was actually really good when he was healthy. Last year,

1428
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 3: you a one fifty six WRC.

1429
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: But I just voice losing Barbucks and say healthy.

1430
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: I mean, oh my gosh again. And the hope is

1431
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 3: new ownership, maybe they take over, and they don't. They say,

1432
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 3: don't trade. You know, some of the guys will. We'll

1433
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: we'll eat a little bit of a financial losses here

1434
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 3: because we know we're gonna make money in the grand scheme,

1435
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 3: which is what every fucking owner should say. By the way,

1436
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 3: you even if you don't profit in a singular year,

1437
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 3: you will be fine in the long run. You will

1438
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: make money in the long run. I promise you. Look

1439
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 3: at how all these franchises appreciates. They're always going to

1440
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 3: be lucrative for you. Stop pretending they're not. But yeah,

1441
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 3: what's the fifth division for you.

1442
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: Al West. Yeah, yeah, not very good radio, But we

1443
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: do have the same list. I feel like this might

1444
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: just be the answer.

1445
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 3: This might be the undisputed list here, because it.

1446
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: Could be because we don't talk about our answers pre record.

1447
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: We want to, you know, come to some disagreements on

1448
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: the show, but we don't have any.

1449
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 3: When I put this one together, I was like, I

1450
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 3: have a feeling Peter's gonna have the same thing. I

1451
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 3: really did.

1452
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: I thought you would. I thought you there was a

1453
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: part of me that would think that you would disrespect

1454
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: the AL Central. I think I've been doing too many

1455
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: episodes of Jack. So I'm glad to be back up

1456
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 1: with you because you're an AL Central appreciator. So I

1457
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: thinking back on it, I'm not very surprised that you

1458
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: have just hates the Centrals. Yeah, when he's like a

1459
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: Central guy, Yeah, maybe that that's more about him. Yeah,

1460
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: all right, let's get back to the cover station at hand.

1461
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: The American League West, the Ashers are still great. I

1462
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: still think the Asher is gonna be really good. Like

1463
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: I think they can go to the World Series in

1464
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: the American League side, I still think they're gonna be good.

1465
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm so upset at the Mariners, but they have still

1466
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: the best pitching staff arguably in Major League Baseball and

1467
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: a good bullpen, so they're gonna win their eighty four

1468
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: eighty six games. The Texas Rangers have as much upside

1469
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: if really any team, and again, a lot of downside too, right.

1470
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we in the offseason, it's much

1471
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: easier to talk yourself into the upside, but I have

1472
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: to control myself as a better not to just go

1473
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: unload on some of these Rangers prices, because like they

1474
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,879
Speaker 1: do have a lot of downside here. But the upside

1475
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: is what's their win total? Seventy? No, no, maybe it's

1476
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: a little bit higher. I could actually check that, right.

1477
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 3: So I was gonna say, if I could pick a team,

1478
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: if it wasn't over underwin total, was they will win

1479
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 3: more games than last year. It's an interesting conversation. Yeah,

1480
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: I think the Red Sox will be the the layup answer, but.

1481
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm so off Rangers are at eighty five and a half.

1482
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, I'm so off. But that's what I'm

1483
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: saying though. These prices like they they's bet MGM knows

1484
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: the upside, like they are all liigned here too, So

1485
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: I mean this thing stills upside to when ninety games.

1486
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 3: There more than sixty nine. Yeah, I think for sure

1487
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 3: they should.

1488
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: Sacramento you never know, could be weird, but yeah, and

1489
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: then coming in last National League Central, it's just like

1490
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: I like the Brewers, I do. I like the Cubs,

1491
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: I like the Reds. This is not a bad division

1492
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: by any means. But when you have two teams that

1493
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: one is the Pirates, who I just if they in

1494
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: Alex Dugo bro. Yeah, Like, if you're just refusing to

1495
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: do anything to surround yourself with Paul Ski and you're

1496
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: just gonna enjoy a few years of them, then he's

1497
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: gonna go to free agency and leave you, like, and

1498
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: that's the team you want to be. You're just gonna

1499
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: piss me off. You're gonna piss me off. And the Cardinals,

1500
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I've yelled enough at them. They don't need it.

1501
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals fans listening, they don't need it. So that's kind

1502
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: of where I'm at. But I still don't think it's

1503
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: a bad division.

1504
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 3: I just need know the Cubs could take a big

1505
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 3: step forward, the Reds could take a big step forward.

1506
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 3: And I do think the Pirates, you know, just off

1507
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 3: the pitching could take a step forward, but Cardinals being

1508
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 3: in kind of this rebuild mode, presumably the Cubs they're better,

1509
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 3: like Adam Kyle Sucker is great, but like we said,

1510
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 3: like they need to do more if they really want

1511
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 3: this to be an all in year. And and you know,

1512
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 3: the Reds they're good, but I mean, I think I

1513
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 3: don't think anybody's looking at them as like a full

1514
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 3: fledged contender just yet. If they make the loose Robert trade,

1515
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 3: they have the potential to be. But yeah, I just

1516
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 3: think there's not enough upside in this in this division.

1517
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 3: Like the Brewers are really good and I like where

1518
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 3: they're at, but they won ninety three games last year

1519
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 3: and it just felt like nobody else was even close

1520
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 3: to them. So yeah, it just it just kind of

1521
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 3: lacks that punch. It as a chance though, Like if

1522
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 3: the Cubs can make some moves and the Reds you know,

1523
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 3: kind of hit gold a little bit here and and

1524
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: stay healthy and get hot, like I could see it,

1525
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 3: but I don't think. I don't think they've earned the

1526
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 3: right to be ranked ahead of the Al West at

1527
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: this point, given what the Astros and Mariners can do.

1528
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 3: And just the mere upside, just just the upside of

1529
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: the Rangers, and then the fact that the a is like,

1530
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens, like you said, but adding a

1531
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 3: Sevarino adding.

1532
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: I think the A's are going to better than both

1533
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the Pirates.

1534
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 3: I I actually agree with that. I think somebody d

1535
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean, like, how many wins could you see the

1536
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 3: athletics like grabbing and I'm I think they could push

1537
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 3: towards the upper seventies. I agree, if things go right,

1538
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: you know, I think there's there's good vibes. There is

1539
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 3: annoying it is that they're going to Sacramento and whatever.

1540
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 3: I think team wise, there's some good vibes there, Like

1541
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 3: Rooker got paid and extended, like the young core that

1542
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: they've got there, They've got more young pieces coming up,

1543
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: some more pitching reinforcement coming up. This this team is actually

1544
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 3: like they don't have these gaping holes and like laughable

1545
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 3: you know names in the roster resource that they've had

1546
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 3: in the last couple of years.

1547
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: I agree. And just to recap National League West, National

1548
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: League East, American League East, ALE Central ALE West and

1549
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: OL Central agreed upon by the both of us, even

1550
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: though we didn't talk about it before. Let's get to

1551
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: question number six. What teams do you think I have

1552
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: the best futures and the worst futures? This was asked

1553
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: by d MVP Underscore twenty nineteen on Twitter. I got

1554
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: a list of worst futures and I got a list

1555
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: of best futures. What I want to do is I'm

1556
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: going to go through all the teams that I compiled

1557
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: in worst and best, and I want then you to

1558
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: hear them and be like, they're definitely worse than this

1559
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: one because of this, and speak to you know, all

1560
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: of your det intulog into these farm systems. So worst

1561
01:15:55,040 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 1: Future I listed to the Cardinals, I listed the Blue Jays,

1562
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: I listed the Padres, and I listed the Astros. They're

1563
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: teams I missed. So the reason being the Padres. I'm

1564
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: starting to get a little bit nervous because the Padres

1565
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: are not spending and they're only thinking about selling Jack.

1566
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: On the last episode, talked about how there's a lawsuit

1567
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: at hand with Peter Seidler's widower and the brothers and

1568
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: how that's going to work for controlling the Padres future.

1569
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: So there's turmoil up top. Aj Preler always seems like

1570
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: he might be out this year. We never actually know.

1571
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: And then you look at the roster so much top

1572
01:16:50,880 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: end talent still Machado, Tatis, Merrill, Cease, King, Luisa Rise, Yeah,

1573
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: and then you start getting into the bottom of this

1574
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: roster and you're like, who is their left fielder this year?

1575
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: Who is playing DH? What's Croninworth gonna do? And then

1576
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: Darvis shit nearly forty waldron Vasquez some top end talent

1577
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: in the bullpen. But of course now Tanner Scott is gone,

1578
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: like Snell's gone, Like not a great farm system.

1579
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 3: No, it's bad.

1580
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm getting nervous about the Padres future. But of those

1581
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: four names, is the one that shot at you more

1582
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: because I think it's kind of self explanatory with the

1583
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: Blue Jays, the Ashros and the Cardinals. Like the Ashros,

1584
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: I think they're just on the last year of this

1585
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: kind of dynasty and a lot of when you have

1586
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 1: a dynasty, like it's just hard to withstand and sometimes

1587
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 1: you go through some bad years and like that's a

1588
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: bad farm system. With the GM, I don't necessarily trust

1589
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: Cardinals like they bring in ahime bloom. They're telling you

1590
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: that they need to improve their future. Yeah, am I

1591
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: let's be wrong. Am I just supposed to expect that

1592
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: heim Bloom is gonna do a great job? I think

1593
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: I know that's his I know that's his gig, But

1594
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: am I just supposed to expect it?

1595
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 3: I think you can count on him helping facilitate a

1596
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 3: solid farm system, but worried helping it doesn't mean that

1597
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 3: he's gonna, you know, magically build this thing into uh

1598
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 3: a long term contender. The way I look at these

1599
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 3: situations too, though, is like the two two two twofold, right,

1600
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: current state of the farm system and controllable talent. And

1601
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: that's why I think your pitch on the Padres and

1602
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 3: and then of course the Blue Jays I think are

1603
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 3: the two most fascinating scenarios because you look at the

1604
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: Padres controllable talent and when I say controllable, like yeah,

1605
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 3: technically Xander Bogarts is under control, but like if you

1606
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 3: can't move the contract, I don't I don't consider a

1607
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 3: controllable talent.

1608
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: But here's here's my issue is, like we're talking about

1609
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: the Padres and moving Xander Bogart's contract, they like just signed.

1610
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 3: No, That's what I'm saying. They can't.

1611
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that sucks.

1612
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 3: Machado is like a decent deal, but again he's thirty three.

1613
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 3: He's gonna be thirty three. Like it's that's not really

1614
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 3: controllable talent. Controllable talent that they have on this team

1615
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 3: is Jackson Merrill, Fernando Tattists Junior because they pre armed him,

1616
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 3: and then like in terms of proven controllable talent, Robert

1617
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 3: Sports and like they're paying him and he's thirty four,

1618
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 3: like Michael King, how many more years do they have

1619
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 3: with Michael King till he hits free agency. I'm trying,

1620
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 3: like I'm looking it up right now. He's an arb Okay,

1621
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 3: so they'll have he is in his final year of arbitration.

1622
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 3: Like it could get really ugly, you know, like when

1623
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 3: you're playing MLB the show and you like sim a

1624
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 3: season and you forget to like re sign guys or

1625
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: like you like sim through the off season and you're like,

1626
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 3: oh and then you go to like play the next

1627
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 3: year and your whole team's gone. Like that's kind of

1628
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 3: what I could see happening. Like a Riose is gonna

1629
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 3: be a free agent after this year. They might even

1630
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: just trad him anyways for very little. The farm system

1631
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 3: is barren. Of course, they've got two studs at the top,

1632
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 3: but then it drops. I don't think there's a bigger

1633
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 3: drop off in Major League Baseball from like prospect number

1634
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 3: two to three than what you have in this Padre system,

1635
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 3: or really three onward, like the top three, and then

1636
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 3: down from there like Devrees Salas, Cash Mayfield and then

1637
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 3: it's like, oh gosh. But I think the Blue Jays

1638
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 3: they might even be in a worse spot because you're

1639
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: Vlattie Is you're either paying him full market value or

1640
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 3: you're losing him Boba shit like he's good as gone,

1641
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 3: And it's kind of the same thing. You're the paying

1642
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 3: him full market value or you're losing him. Who are

1643
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: the controllable young pieces on the Blue Jays? Not a

1644
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 3: good farm system either. By the way, Barshaw barshow I

1645
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 3: think who has actually become underrated at this point.

1646
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: I agree that's it.

1647
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:03,480
Speaker 3: And Andre Semenez, you're you're paying him a lot of money?

1648
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 1: True, Yeah, technically you're right.

1649
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 3: They technically that deal was movable. Technically, yes, technically you're

1650
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 3: right because of them, because it was. I think the

1651
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 3: Blue Jays are the worst situation. MM hmm.

1652
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: Anybody else that came to your mind.

1653
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 3: I had the I mean the Angels, of course.

1654
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like duh, duh, nobody, you know what? I

1655
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And the only reason I'm saying

1656
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: that is because I think they're doing pretty well in

1657
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: the draft, Like Christian Moore is gonna come up to

1658
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: create a core with Netto and o Hoppy and they

1659
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: still have some young, controllable pictures Like I would rather that,

1660
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: yeah than vur show And you are just gonna pay

1661
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: Jimenez and then you're hoping record who is a better

1662
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 1: record in five years, the Angels or the Padres. Like

1663
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: it might be the Angels.

1664
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 3: It wouldn't shock me unless you know, it's a masterclass

1665
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 3: from from Prower if he's still there, you know.

1666
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: But but the real answer to me might be the Rockies.

1667
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: Like I just don't know how anybody's ever going to

1668
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 1: want to play there forever. And it's not even totally

1669
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: their fault. I think it's impossible to lure people to Colorado.

1670
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, forever.

1671
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: And it's like you're gonna have to invent a team

1672
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: through a system, yeah, and that's really hard to do.

1673
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. What I will say is this the first time

1674
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 3: I've actually seen a little bit of a semblance of

1675
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 3: that at least, But I got the Rockies on there too,

1676
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 3: just for for transparency, but at least like do Lander, like,

1677
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 3: when's the last time we've seen the Rockies? But do

1678
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 3: Lander type of prospect, you know.

1679
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 1: He's gotta work, He's gotta work, he's gotta work.

1680
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Brody Bract, I have no faith in that

1681
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 3: working out there, but that was a decent get Like he's.

1682
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: Gonna be a Dodger in a year.

1683
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 3: Do you think the Angels to your point, like you

1684
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 3: still have Mike Trout, who like if he can just

1685
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 3: show anything and be close to what he was, like,

1686
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 3: You're you're in a decent spot there, and net O

1687
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 3: O happy. You know, you're you're gonna get something for

1688
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 3: for some of these other guys, you sound Kakuchi Ben

1689
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 3: Joyce is a chance to be the nets there, Mason Miller. Yeah,

1690
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: so like there's there's some there's any and then the

1691
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 3: Vats like Ward Ron he fo you can get something

1692
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 3: for those guys, So I yeah, I do think they're

1693
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 3: a little bit better of a situation. But and then

1694
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 3: the Marlins, like I think the Marlins have the most

1695
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 3: of these teams, like have the most capital to make

1696
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 3: things like happen.

1697
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: Right, White, Yeah, I wouldn't put these two teams. They're

1698
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: so young, they you know, they they know they're in rebuilds,

1699
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: like they don't they're not paying anybody anything. So yeah,

1700
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put the White Sox in the Marlins. Like

1701
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: in this.

1702
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like who's kind of stuck? And I think

1703
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 3: the Padres and the Blue Jays are the most stuck,

1704
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 3: and then just inevitably the Rockies because you just you

1705
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 3: can't get pictures to go there, so they got to

1706
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 3: do it themselves, and I don't much faith in them

1707
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 3: doing anything themselves. So yeah, I do think the Padres

1708
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 3: and the Blue Jays are the answer though, And I

1709
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 3: think the Blue Jays are the worst situation just because

1710
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 3: when you have Tatis and Jackson Merrill, Yeah, and then

1711
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 3: you have I think arguably like a guy that could

1712
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 3: be the number one prospect in baseball, Leo Devrees, Like

1713
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 3: you can kind of talk yourself into at least like

1714
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 3: a young corps there and figure some things out. And

1715
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: like you know, Bogart's and Machado are still there and

1716
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: they're like good, good players, whether you're they're gonna be

1717
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: an undesirable paycheck at the end or not. When you

1718
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 3: look at the Blue Jays, like, there's not a lot

1719
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 3: of guys that I'm like that if maybe some will,

1720
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 3: like I hope, I hope. Well, Braffido like that's a

1721
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 3: big ear and you feel great about it, and I

1722
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 3: love that get for them. But like a lot of

1723
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 3: these guys are hoping cement their their roles. And then

1724
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 3: the pitching staff. Gosman's thirty four, Barrios is your best arm.

1725
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 3: He's gonna be thirty one, and you know you might

1726
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 3: end up moving him as well, and he has some

1727
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 3: money attached to him. Bassett's thirty six. It's a weird

1728
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 3: spot to be in your top pitching prospect, tricky Tetaum

1729
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 3: and you're just hoping can stand around at all. Yeah,

1730
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 3: it's they're stuck. They're quite stuck.

1731
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: It'd suck best features And it's funny the team with

1732
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 1: the best feature as the best present Dodgers. They are

1733
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: creating a dynasty and a very long standing one, and

1734
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: I think the only way it ends is that when

1735
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: twenty forty eight comes and they got to pay all

1736
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: this deferred money. But if we're talking about the next

1737
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: five years, this team has the young core, they have

1738
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: an amazing farm system, they have an ownership group that

1739
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: will spend whatever amount of money possible. They have a

1740
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: GM who's arguably the best in baseball. I mean, I'd

1741
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: take Andrew Friedman against just about anybody. They are becoming

1742
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: a landing spot for the Japanese stars, the Korean stars

1743
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: of the world. They're a perfect team right now. They

1744
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: have the best president and the best future. And I

1745
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: think then we could talk about second and third, but

1746
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: I think number one definitely the Dodgers. Like you can

1747
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: make arguments, you know, this team has such a great

1748
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: farm system, this and that Dodgers have as good of

1749
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: a farm system as anybody. Yeah, it's I don't know,

1750
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: they are truly and you know a lot of people

1751
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: are gonna hate that answer, but it's it's a fact.

1752
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: It's just a fact. They are as good of a

1753
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: team now as they will be I think in three

1754
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: or four years.

1755
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't have anything that i'd like

1756
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 3: where at a point where it's like, what are they

1757
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 3: even gonna do with top one hundred prospects, Like, yeah,

1758
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 3: you can't even fit in a top one hundred. Dalton

1759
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 3: Rushing that raked in trip a A already, Like, where

1760
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 3: do we put this guy? Alex Freeland raked in the

1761
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 3: upper miners? No idea where to put this guy like

1762
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 3: Paula DePaul is good could be a star. Zyr Hope

1763
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 3: looks like he could be a star, And we have

1764
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 3: no idea what these guys are even gonna fit in.

1765
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 3: So Yeah, that that's a no brainer. They're they're obviously

1766
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 3: the best situation. Then I think I go Red Sox. Yeah,

1767
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 3: because they're flexing their muscles telling us how they're gonna

1768
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: spend money. I'll believe it when I see it. But

1769
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 3: the fact that they're even doing that, before it was, oh,

1770
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 3: we're not spending shit, like we're you know, whatever concerns

1771
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 3: the fen White Sports group had about money or whatever,

1772
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 3: like you kind of knew it. Now it's okay. Money

1773
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like too much of a thing. You went

1774
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 3: out and traded for Garrett Crochet. You didn't trade one

1775
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 3: of your top three prospects, which is crazy, right, Like,

1776
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 3: you don't move the number one prospect in baseball in

1777
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 3: Roman Anthony, who they still have obviously, you don't move

1778
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 3: Christian Campbell, who a lot of people see is in

1779
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 3: top ten prospect in baseball. And then you also don't

1780
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 3: move Marcel and Meyer, who's consensus top fifty prospects in baseball.

1781
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 3: Like they have young, controllable pieces, they have some star

1782
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 3: power as well, and their rotation is as strong as

1783
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 3: it's been. That farm system is still a force. It's

1784
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 3: one of the better in baseball. Like, they're in a

1785
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 3: fantastic spot.

1786
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. I think the next team that

1787
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: I would place in here is I think arguably the

1788
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: most well oiled machine that doesn't spend a lot of

1789
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:13,799
Speaker 1: money is the Milwaukee Brewers.

1790
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we.

1791
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: Talked about the first question. You talked about Hazu's made,

1792
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: you talked about all these new guys that were coming up.

1793
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's incredible, and I just think that,

1794
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, the sign of a great organization is you

1795
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: trade Josh Hater and you get some pieces back, and

1796
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,759
Speaker 1: the fans are upset, and then he slotted Devin Williams.

1797
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: Devin Williams dominates, and then you swap out Devin Williams

1798
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 1: and now you get Trevor McGill and of course you

1799
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: have Yoho and ms Rawski following him, and then you

1800
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: just have a you have a system that continues to

1801
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: produce great offensive pieces. You seem to at least win

1802
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: or tie every trade you make. Yep, I think the

1803
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Brewers are in as good of a spot, especially when

1804
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: you look at their division too, because if the Cubs

1805
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: screw up the Kyle Tucker stuff and they never actually

1806
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 1: reached their full potential, and the Reds never do either,

1807
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are in a deep rebuild, and the

1808
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: Pirates are just they're they're gonna win divisions every year

1809
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: for like a while while spending no money. Yeah, I mean,

1810
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 1: talk about better position to be it?

1811
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 3: Yeah now? And and also I mean I mentioned on

1812
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 3: Twitter and I got a little bit of pushback, but

1813
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 3: like I genuinely believe it. I think you can make

1814
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 3: a case of this Brewer system is the best in baseball.

1815
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,480
Speaker 3: And you know, I know, people like maybe the proximity

1816
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 3: of some of the other like Cubs prospects or whatever,

1817
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 3: but in terms of just talent, I think I would

1818
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 3: take that Brewer system with just about any in Major

1819
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 3: League Baseball. So you take that ninety three one team

1820
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 3: with arguably the best system right for sure, a top

1821
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 3: five system in Major League Baseball. Yeah, sign me up

1822
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 3: for that. And like you said, they're a well little machine,

1823
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 3: whether Stearns is there or not, like they've they've got

1824
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 3: it rolling and I don't see them going anywhere anytime soon.

1825
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: Fourth team. I think the Mets have a great future.

1826
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about the Mets. First of all, you

1827
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 1: got the pairing of Wansota and Francisco Lindor. That's about

1828
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: as good as any pairing in Major League Baseball. But

1829
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: you combine a GM and David Stearns, who I think

1830
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: is up there with anybody with the money and the

1831
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: wallet that Steve Cohen has. And they also just did

1832
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:21,799
Speaker 1: kind of a soft rebuild. It's using the word rebuild

1833
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 1: is stupid because really they just traded away some of

1834
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: their aging guys in order to get a couple of prospects.

1835
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: Like their system is not great, but it's solid. Am

1836
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: I wrong or am I wrong?

1837
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 3: No, it's it's fine. But I also trust them. Everything

1838
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 3: you said about the Brewers, Sterns is there to do

1839
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 3: that with the Mets. And I don't like to give

1840
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 3: gms or executives credit before they earn it. I think

1841
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 3: he's proven that he can do this, and now you

1842
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 3: give him more money. Yeah, from a development standpoint and

1843
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: scouting and signing bonus everything, Like the Mets are gonna

1844
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 3: are gonna build a sustainable winner, is there as well?

1845
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think they're gonna be competing while building

1846
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,600
Speaker 1: that sustainable model at the same time. And this is

1847
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: going to work for a very long time. But you know,

1848
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: I could just hear, you know, some of my family

1849
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: members who are older and some of the Mets fans

1850
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: just being like, whatever you start here in sustainable success

1851
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: with the New York Mets's like, yeah, that really happened.

1852
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 1: But I'm going to give them credit. I think it's

1853
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: the first time where we're really going to have this

1854
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: model here and Mets fans are going to be competing

1855
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: to win the division every year for a very long time.

1856
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: So I had the Mets at four and I also

1857
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,759
Speaker 1: had the Tigers at five. I think with the Tigers

1858
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: have a very good system. I think that their ability

1859
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: to you know, develop some of these guys. I mean,

1860
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, we saw what Parker Medows can do, we

1861
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,600
Speaker 1: saw what Cole Keith can do. Of course, you have

1862
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: Briley Green. Of course you have Trek's gooble. You know,

1863
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: we look at Jackson job but like there's a lot,

1864
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: a lot of young talent here. But we also know

1865
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 1: that the Tigers have been a team to you know,

1866
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 1: it didn't really work, but sign a Hobbyer Bias right.

1867
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 3: Like they they have might sign Alex Bregman, right.

1868
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: They might sign Alex Bregman. And so they've shown that

1869
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: they have the pockets to go get that missing piece

1870
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: while also having the development in order to create some

1871
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: of these great young players. So I think the Tigers.

1872
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: And then of course you have aj Hinch at the helm,

1873
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: who's one of the best managers in baseball. So that's

1874
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: why the Tiger's at five.

1875
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good one. I also had

1876
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 3: the Guardians right there too.

1877
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, to talk about.

1878
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 3: Another well oiled machine. But you also look at like

1879
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 3: the staff. All of a sudden, you got Biby, you

1880
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 3: got I think Evin Williams is gonna bounce back. You

1881
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 3: had wise Ortiz to the fold there. They've got some

1882
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 3: guys in the upper miners that I think can make

1883
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 3: an impact sooner rather than later. Getting off of that

1884
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 3: him and his contract I wonder if they're going to

1885
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 3: spend a little bit more maybe next offseason or whatever,

1886
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 3: or extend some guys. Kwan should be extended. I think

1887
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 3: they should do that tomorrow. But the latter on the

1888
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 3: way up. You know, I love some of their middle

1889
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,799
Speaker 3: infield depth throughout the system, Like clearly they spawned bullpen

1890
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 3: arms like none other, and you know, the dish, the

1891
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 3: core of Kwan, Menzarto, Hose Ramirez, and then the other

1892
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 3: guy's coming up. Like, I think they're gonna be in

1893
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 3: a good spot for a while.

1894
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I thought about the Orioles, but

1895
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I I'm.

1896
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 3: Just it's kind of weak now. It's it's a below

1897
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 3: average farm system at this point.

1898
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't trust Michaelias.

1899
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 3: I don't he's ont rot.

1900
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't trust him, and I I don't know

1901
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: if it's ownership, right. I was reading the YouTube comments

1902
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 1: from some of the Orders fans. They fully think it's

1903
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: the it's Michaelias's fault that he is getting money and

1904
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: he is not spending, which is probably right. I just

1905
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't like what's happening at the top. And then

1906
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: I keep looking and I'm like, the reason they don't

1907
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 1: want to trade beside was they probably think that in

1908
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: a few years, Adlely Ruchman is gone. They probably think

1909
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: that Gunnar Henderson is gone after a few years. So

1910
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: if you're not going to extend any of these guys,

1911
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: all right, we'll just see what you can do for now.

1912
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: And you're probably still gonna be good for now.

1913
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 3: It's like the fifteen years, Like it's like the win

1914
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 3: fifty three percent of your games thing, like, Yeah, it's

1915
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 3: like that what they want to do.

1916
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: Have fun with that. So I'm not putting that in

1917
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: my top five futures. I still like their future. I

1918
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: would put them in the top half other than the

1919
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: bottom half. Yeah, still, and with the with the Guardians

1920
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: as well. I didn't even mention.

1921
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 3: Hey, they had the number one pick in the draft

1922
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 3: and Travis Pizano, who's gonna be up there tomorrow as well,

1923
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 3: So they're they're in a pretty nice spot.

1924
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: So we have two more questions before the last word,

1925
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: but before that our last break, all right, Question number seven,

1926
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: do the Giants have a fighting chance at finishing second

1927
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 1: in the West and grabbing a wild card spot? Is

1928
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: the gap between them and the Padres and the Diamondbacks

1929
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 1: that big? This is asked by m Monreel zero four

1930
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: to two three on Twitter. The more I look at

1931
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 1: these teams, the more I think, Just to answer the

1932
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: first part of the question, I think they'll be in

1933
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: the wildcard hunt mm hmm, but I don't think they finished. Second,

1934
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: I think this is Dodgers, Dbacks, Giants, Padres next year.

1935
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 1: And then I think that the Giants are going to

1936
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: be in the eight five maybe range. I just I

1937
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 1: still need more from this rotation. Of course, they add

1938
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: the Verlanders signing, which we can talk about who actually

1939
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,480
Speaker 1: think could have a decent ear in that ballpark.

1940
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is why we talked about in the Playing

1941
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 3: GM episode, which just like the reason why I felt

1942
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 3: like such a good fit, beyond the fact that, like

1943
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 3: could just imagine Buster post he picking up the phone

1944
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 3: and calling a guy that you know, he went toe

1945
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 3: to toe with a ton throughout his career, and I'm

1946
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 3: sure there's a ton of mutual respect there. But you're

1947
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 3: taking a guy that had his serious home run issue

1948
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 3: last year really for the first time. Well, I guess

1949
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:38,560
Speaker 3: you know, he also had it in twenty nineteen, but

1950
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 3: he was able to remain effective because he struck out

1951
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 3: three hundred but really, like we haven't seen him have

1952
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,839
Speaker 3: a ton of home run issues up until he aged

1953
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 3: and also played his home games in Houston, Like you

1954
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 3: put him in a ballpark where no one can hit homers,

1955
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,600
Speaker 3: he can start to trust that higt fastball at the

1956
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 3: top a little bit more and not nibble the way

1957
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 3: that we saw him nibbling. And I think that will

1958
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 3: make a huge different And so now I'm excited to

1959
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 3: see what that does for him. And they don't need

1960
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 3: him to be anything other than a back end of

1961
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 3: the rotation starter and just a much needed VET and

1962
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame talent for them in terms of like

1963
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 3: what he can bring in the intangible side. If he

1964
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 3: gives them, you know, a low to mid four's and

1965
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 3: eat some innings, like I think that they'd be more

1966
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 3: than fine with that. So I love the addition, but

1967
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 3: I'm with you, like Logan Web grab the top of

1968
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,799
Speaker 3: the rotation, no questions there. Jordan Hicks ran out of gas.

1969
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 3: Kyle Harrison's been nothing more than a mid four's yet

1970
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 3: he's twenty three. He could take a step forward this year.

1971
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 3: I hope he does. Robbie Ray I liked what we

1972
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:40,799
Speaker 3: saw from him last year, but he made seven starts,

1973
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 3: so like, there's a lot of variants here. I think

1974
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 3: it could go really well potentially, but I'm with you,

1975
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 3: I want a little bit more. I think they've got

1976
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 3: some guys in the fold that can help too. And now,

1977
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 3: just adding Verlander doesn't put all the chips in the

1978
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 3: like Hayden bird Song has to make a laite basket.

1979
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 3: So like, I like him as an additional option. But

1980
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 3: you know, this is still a team that I think

1981
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 3: is closer to eighty five wins when you hit the

1982
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 3: d Backs, Like, the d Backs are the best, the

1983
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 3: biggest threat to the Dodgers, without a doubt. I think

1984
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 3: in the entire National League.

1985
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 1: Wow, more than the Phillies, more in the Braves, more

1986
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: in the Mets, more than the Mets. I mean, I'm

1987
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 1: willing to buy. And I love the d Backs.

1988
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 3: This season so in games with a bad first half.

1989
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: Burns best offensive baseball and the second half.

1990
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 3: And I know they lost Jock and whatever, But like

1991
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 3: I I like and Christian Walker, but I I really

1992
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 3: believe that Peven Smith is going to take a step

1993
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 3: forward this year. Again, I think the pitching can't be

1994
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 3: worse like in terms of like what they got from

1995
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 3: a lot of their rotation. Guys. You know, Merrill Kelly's healthy,

1996
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 3: e Rod should be healthy. Zach Gallen missed time with injury,

1997
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 3: and Zach Gallen doesn't need to be your race now,

1998
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 3: he needs to be her two. Corbyn Burns is your ace.

1999
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 3: I think you could probably make the case that the

2000
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 3: Phillies have the edge ish, but again, you added Josh Naylor,

2001
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 3: you know, to offset the offensive loss defensively obviously it's

2002
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna take a hit there, but at first base

2003
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:14,759
Speaker 3: defense whatever. I mean, this lineup is pretty ridiculous. And yeah,

2004
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 3: I think they replaced enough and are in a good

2005
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 3: spot here. Yeah, Laile are hopefully healthy, Drey Jamison coming back.

2006
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 3: They're loaded, dude on on in like every aspect.

2007
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 1: I also think that the Brewers and the Cubs are

2008
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 1: both going to be better than the Giants, and I

2009
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 1: think that the Braves, Mets and Phillies, which tells me

2010
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: that the Giants can be good enough to be better

2011
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,759
Speaker 1: than the Padres but still not make the playoffs. Because

2012
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: if I were, if I were in the playoffs, if

2013
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 1: I were putting my twenty twenty five predictions hat on

2014
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 1: right now, I would go the Dodgers win the division

2015
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 1: of the Downbacks finished second, and those are the two

2016
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: teams to make the playoffs from the West. Then I

2017
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: would say that the Brewers win the divisi in the

2018
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 1: Cubs finished second, and you know, maybe the Reds can

2019
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:08,679
Speaker 1: take a big League too, But I think like Red's, Brewers, Cubs,

2020
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: they're all going to be around the same amount of wins,

2021
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 1: with one of them being in the ninety. Then the Giants,

2022
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 1: and then you have two spots already for Braves and

2023
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: Mets or Phillies, whoever wins. So I think it's really

2024
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 1: gonna be Braves, Phillies, whatever combination, two of those teams

2025
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 1: from the East, and then one of the teams from

2026
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: the West, and then the division winners and the Giants

2027
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 1: just don't make it. But that's not to say the

2028
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: Giants aren't a very good team. Right the Giants are

2029
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 1: in the American League. They might be a division winner,

2030
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 1: Like this is a good team, but it's not as

2031
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 1: good as these other teams. It's the best out last

2032
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:47,959
Speaker 1: of the Padres, best.

2033
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 3: Giants team in several years. I think there's a lot

2034
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 3: to be excited about. If they add another impact bat somehow,

2035
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 3: I could start to buy in a little bit more.

2036
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's a step forward. And it's

2037
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 3: mid eighties. But I look at the Phillies and the

2038
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 3: d Backs and yeah, I think those are teams that

2039
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 3: are going to push over ninety wins again, you know,

2040
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 3: or not again. For the Dbacks it was eighty nine.

2041
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 3: I think they're going to push over ninety for sure

2042
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 3: this year. I just there's some other bigger forces at hand.

2043
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 1: I think I agree, all right, last question before we

2044
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 1: get to the last word segment? Who are your favorite

2045
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 1: mythical baseball players? And that means like a healthy Byron Buxton,

2046
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: A June Schwarber, a fifth kicking in Aaron Nola. This

2047
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: is asked by our guy Peyton Genis on Instagram. Shout

2048
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: out Peyton, he ded did this episode. We love Peyton

2049
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: over here. I have one. I mean I have a couple,

2050
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: but healthy Byron Buxton. Just to explain some of these

2051
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 1: and what he kind of means by the question when

2052
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 1: Byron Bucks it is healthy. It's one of the most

2053
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 1: talented players in Major League Baseball. We just don't get

2054
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: to see him. That's why it's kind of mythical. A

2055
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 1: June Schwarber when he comes in and he hits fifteen

2056
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 1: home runs every single jew And whenever you turn on

2057
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 1: a Phillies game in the summer, you're watching Kyle Schwarber

2058
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 1: leave the park fip kicking in Aaron Nola. This is

2059
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 1: more of a joke between the Just Baseball crew, where

2060
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 1: it's we've had arguments about how good Aaron Nola is

2061
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 1: forever underlying metrics say he's always better than he is,

2062
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: and it's just that constant kind of argument. I have

2063
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: one that just immediately stuck in my mind when I

2064
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 1: heard this question. But also if we're talking about just

2065
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,799
Speaker 1: healthy players, I'd rather have a healthy Degram, a healthy

2066
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Mike Trout than a healthy Baron Buxton for sure.

2067
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,799
Speaker 3: But we've seen that, I guess for like multiple seasons,

2068
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 3: whereas like the healthy Buckston's like almost borderline mythical.

2069
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 1: It is mythical, absolutely, So that's a better answer to

2070
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 1: the question. But I have one mythical one that I

2071
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 1: think I think I think might beat yours. And I'm

2072
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: going on on a limb here, Who's your mythical creature

2073
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: that could go toe to toe and super smash.

2074
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 3: Bros home way in Chen in twenty eighteen, this is

2075
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 3: the craziest phenomenon ever I and and it was funny

2076
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 3: because I was covering the Marlins at the time, and

2077
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 3: it was so dramatic that it actually came up in

2078
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 3: a postgame presser with Don Mattingly and one of the

2079
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 3: reporters were in that like a little scrum. It's like,

2080
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 3: are you aware of how dramatic wayan Chen splits our

2081
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 3: home versus road? And he started laughing. He's like, yeah,

2082
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 3: we've talked about it, Like have you considered just not

2083
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 3: having him pitch on the road and just having him

2084
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 3: pitch at home? And then that's where he's like, no, no,

2085
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 3: like what we can't do that, Like what are you

2086
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 3: talking about? It was a valid question because in twenty eighteen,

2087
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:42,560
Speaker 3: and you know much of a disaster contract that was

2088
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 3: for the Marlins. But wayan Chen at home in twenty

2089
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 3: eighteen seventy eight innings a one eight to two ERA

2090
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 3: opponents at one eighty five, two forty five, two sixty

2091
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:57,799
Speaker 3: three against him wayan Chen on the road that season

2092
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:01,600
Speaker 3: fifty five and the thirds innings ninety two seventy r

2093
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 3: opponents hit three point forty three ninety eight six ZHO nine.

2094
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 3: I've never seen a near eight run differential in home

2095
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 3: roads plits in my entire life. We're not talking about

2096
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 3: like a three start sample both ways seventy eight innings

2097
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 3: and fifty five and a third one eight two era

2098
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 3: versus a nine two seven. Every time this guy through

2099
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 3: it was it became a running joke, like Wayne Sheen

2100
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 3: at home it was like dominance, and then on the

2101
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 3: road it was it was batting practice. I've never seen

2102
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,640
Speaker 3: anything like it at all. Eighty hits. I think it

2103
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 3: was in fifty five innings on the road.

2104
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: Patro Martinez at home, Patrick Corbyn on the road, or

2105
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 1: like worse than Corbin.

2106
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 3: Ninety two seven.

2107
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like Chad Cool against the Dodgers.

2108
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 3: Fourteen home runs in fifty five innings.

2109
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 1: That's so strange. That is very bithical. That's a great one.

2110
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 1: I would I never would have even thought of that one.

2111
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 1: So it's a great answer. More people might think of

2112
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: my answer. Basses loaded Royce Lewis.

2113
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, that's a great one.

2114
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: Base loaded Royce Lewis. So in twenty twenty two he

2115
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: had one plate appearance with the bases loaded Grand Slam

2116
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, he goes six for eleven with four

2117
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: Grand slams twenty RBIs. Then last year down year for him,

2118
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: he only has six RBIs and nine plate appearances, but

2119
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: he's had a couple in the postseason as well, but

2120
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: just in the regular season. Royce Lewis with the bases

2121
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: loaded in his career is nine for twenty one, nearly

2122
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 1: hitting five hundred with five Grand Slams and thirty RBIs.

2123
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't understand, Well, I took the greatest player ever.

2124
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense though, Like how do you magically

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Speaker 3: become exponentially better when the bases are loaded every single time?

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Speaker 3: Like it's a pretty Like it's small sample obviously, but

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Speaker 3: it's like pretty big at this point. At the same time, when.

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Speaker 1: You have five Grand slams, like you've come up twenty

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Speaker 1: one times five of those resulted in Grand Slams and

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Speaker 1: in those twenty one at bats, like he's averaging over

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Speaker 1: an RBI like per plate appearance with the bases loaded,

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Speaker 1: which is not easy. Right, There's plenty of times where right,

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Speaker 1: you grounded a double play or something, Yeah, you don't

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Speaker 1: get credit for the RBI. Right, maybe a sackfly would help,

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't have that many sacriflies. A lot of

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Speaker 1: his sackrilfies are just leaving the park for Grand Slams.

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Speaker 1: So Royce Lewis bases loaded. That's my mythical creature.

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Speaker 3: I like it. I like that. I mean he is

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Speaker 3: legitimately mythical.

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Speaker 1: And it's a good segue into our last word talking

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Speaker 1: about mythical creatures. So sometimes in this last word segment,

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Speaker 1: I'll come to you with baseball history, arm will come

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Speaker 1: to you with prospects or baseball cards. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: fantasy baseball, we'll talk about just random things in the

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Speaker 1: last world segment. But not this one, not the first

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Speaker 1: last word segment of the Just Baseball Show. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about eels. And I'll tell you where this

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Speaker 1: comes from. So is that o Macasse love a macasse

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Speaker 1: by the way, And we get a eel wrap, So

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Speaker 1: it's grilled eel, some vegetables and rice, and it's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: And the old Macasse chef mutters something and he's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we still don't know how eels reproduce. And

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, what what do you mean? And

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Speaker 1: he goes into the story about how eels might be

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Speaker 1: aliens because we really don't know anything about them. So

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Speaker 1: I looked it up and I quote humans don't know

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Speaker 1: much about eels because of their complex life cycle, which

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Speaker 1: includes late development of reproductive organs, long migrations to mysterious

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Speaker 1: spawning grounds in the open ocean, and the difficulty of

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Speaker 1: observing their behavior in the wild makes it hard to

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Speaker 1: study their reproduction migration patterns. Even with modern technology. This

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Speaker 1: mystery has puzzled scientists for centuries, with many aspects of

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Speaker 1: eels still not fully understood. We can go to Mars,

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Speaker 1: we can go to the outer realms of this universe,

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Speaker 1: and we don't really know about a creature that has

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Speaker 1: been on this planet for a very long time. This

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Speaker 1: comes from Jason Crumholtz, who has a PhD in oceanography

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Speaker 1: from the University of Rhode Island. Eels travel from rivers

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Speaker 1: to the sea to mate. They make a long migration

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Speaker 1: from their feeding grounds to their breeding grounds, a lot

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Speaker 1: like salmon, but in reverse. Salmon lived their lives in

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Speaker 1: the ocean, migrating into rivers to spawn. Eels do the reverse,

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Speaker 1: migrating from to the sea to spawn. So with salmon

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Speaker 1: is easy to reserve and then replicate in captivity eels

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Speaker 1: are nearly impossible, and as far as I know, nobody

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Speaker 1: has been able to get captive eels to reproduce or spawn.

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Speaker 1: Scientists do not know for certain what cues the eel's

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Speaker 1: use in order to spawn, and that's part of the

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Speaker 1: reason why we can't try to reproduce those conditions in

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Speaker 1: captivity to get them to spawn, Like they don't know

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Speaker 1: how to do it, because eels don't even have reproductive organs.

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Speaker 1: It's just a mystery fish. I blew my mind, blew

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Speaker 1: my mind's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It is crazy that the ocean is like just as

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Speaker 3: fast as like outer space in terms of, yeah, we

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Speaker 3: don't know anything, and that's what I love about it,

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Speaker 3: Like the ocean is one of my favorite things that

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Speaker 3: I've into. But that is actually nuts.

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Speaker 1: I read a crazier conspiracy theory that they that this

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Speaker 1: is what some people believe, that eels came down, like

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Speaker 1: the DNA from eels came down into meteor and hit

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Speaker 1: the Bermuda triangle. It has created this Like that's.

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Speaker 3: The funniest thing I've ever heard, and I'm like.

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Speaker 1: I kind of believe it. I kind of They do

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Speaker 1: taste good great on Macassa.

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Speaker 3: What I Got for You is through age twenty five

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Speaker 3: season Carrie Carpenter two seventy three, three thirty four, four

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Speaker 3: seventy four slash Line and one twenty three WRC plus

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Speaker 3: Roger Marris two fifty eight, three forty four, seventy four

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Speaker 3: one twenty WRC plus. If you think about it, Carry

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Speaker 3: Carpenter might just be Roger Merris.

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Speaker 1: And that's the last word of the Just Baseball Show.

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