WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Marv Albert (07-01-20) 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.600 Sports Radio. I was just taking a victory lap because 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:10.000 one of the great purchases of my life is in 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.920 the man cave. I bought a disco ball, and I 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.080 didn't know how to use it, but I bought it 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:22.119 for the American on Athletic Association of America are three 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.720 on three basketball tournament, and I thought it would be 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.960 great for player introductions. I bought a smoke machine too 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.800 for player introductions. And then, of course the pandemic happened, 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.159 and just like all the other great sports leagues, we 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.360 were put on hold. Here. We have no timeframe for 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:42.800 when we will resume the au AA. But I saw 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.920 this disco ball and I said, I gotta have it, 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:51.280 and we've been using the disco ball when Mario reads 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.000 some of the tweets on the air, and we have 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.680 a segment on YouTube dot com slash the Dan Patrick 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.840 Show giving him a little airtime. Marvin, who answers the 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.360 owns getting a little air time as well reading emails. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.160 So at disco ball, man, it's going to come in handy. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.200 And you can't have a bad day if you have 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.280 a disco ball, can you? When that starts spinning and 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.560 the light hits it. Although we're gonna find out if 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.960 you're gonna have a bad day. But as for now, 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.960 I love I love me some disco ball and it 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.840 brings back some decent memories. Yeah pull now you are 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.319 a rock DJ and FM rock DJ in the mid 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.560 to late seventies. Oh yeah, Were you anti disco or 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.280 were you kind of in between? I was. I don't 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.399 think it was anti, but it wasn't going to be 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:43.360 in my music repertoire. I appreciated the BGS. I truly 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.720 appreciated their ability to sound like that, and they came 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.600 up with great hits and they had great hair. But 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:57.080 I wasn't adverse to to disco because you know that 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.200 Disco Demolition Night at Comiskey Park many many, many decades ago, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:05.080 and of course it was disastrous. But no, I'm okay 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:10.840 with disco. I don't have any real adverse feelings to it. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.799 I'm open to just about anything. Anybody have a disco 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.919 problem here? I see some cringing faces there, Seeton O'Connor, 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:25.839 disco not a on your music list? Oh well, yeah, 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.560 I don't know it's it's not on my music list 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.600 necessarily um, but I think I don't know that all 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:36.360 disco is created equally. But if Donna Summer comes on, 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.240 it's great, right, Great begs are great, Yes, yeah, but 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:45.639 they're the beeches were great, but it felt like America 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.400 consumed them so quickly and they spit them out quickly. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.040 Right after that, they had a like a two or 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.359 three year window or maybe four years where it was 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.880 like beg's were big, and then all of a sudden 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.240 America went, no, this is a big two fair asked 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.040 maybe or something like that, this doesn't taste good. Yes. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.480 I remember my mom liking the BJ's a lot, which 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.000 made me think they were not cool, and I was 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.600 looking for anything that she thought was too loud. If 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.720 my mom thought it was too loud, I would buy 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.320 those records. But did we go into hair bands after 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.400 that right after disco or did it was big hair 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:23.080 then grunge. It's big hair then grunge, but just before 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.760 the big hair thing, Yeah, I'm not really sure. I 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.160 mean disco was in there somewhere. Yeah, it went disco 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.000 to MTV. Oh you know what, Actually there was sort 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.120 of like in between disco and maybe MTV was sort 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.160 of I know that's when the sex Pistols and all 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.880 that happened. Oh, okay, but that didn't last that long. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.880 No, no no it didn't. But that that took you into say, 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:51.240 like the early eighties. Okay, and yes, and club you 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.440 guys are forgetting about synth rock sort of like the 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.760 Keytar stays. Like every the synse went from disco to 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.240 rock bands and ruined music for about ten years. Right, 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.600 all those terrible are you calling out rush? No? No, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:09.320 no Russias se mean like new wave like Paul Uran Mode. No, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.480 that's harder, Like guys, guys played it through the piano 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.279 on a guitarist trap like Revenge of the Nerves guitar. Yeah, 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.760 Hall of Notes. Well, if you look at like nineteen 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.320 eighty disco is pretty much dying. If you look at 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.480 the nineteen eighty two Billboard top charts, the top songs 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.800 were Physical by Living Newton, John, I Have the Tiger 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.520 by Survivor, I Live, Rock and Roll by Jane Jet, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.200 center Field, Centerfold by Jay Giles, Christie Much We loving this, 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.360 This is awesome. A lot of John Cougar, Human League, 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.120 Hall and Oates, Rick Springfield, Foreigner that was big and 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.880 eighty two. Yes, Todd I remember watching Andy Gibbon Marilyn 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.000 McCoo counting down the Solid Gold nineteen eighty one hits. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.000 Number three was Kissed on My List. Number two was 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:52.880 Let's Get Physical Living Who and John A Number one, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:58.760 Kim Cornes, Betty Davis, Davis eyes at number one. Thank 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.520 you to welcome alrighty, welcome to the program, Final Hour. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.120 We've had a roller coaster ride here today. Yeah. Soon. 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.359 That makes me think of like I always knew it 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.440 was summer vacation, that when we got in the car, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.560 for some reason, Casey Caseum's countdown was on, and that 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.440 was like the sound of summer to me. That meant 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.200 we were driving, you know, either to Vermont on vacation 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.560 or going down the Jersey Shore, or wherever it was 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.760 we were going. We would always, for some reason we 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.320 would get in the car and I remember listening to 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.920 Casey Caseum and that was like, oh man, it's summer 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.160 and you have that serious XM Channel seventies on seven 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:35.200 and each Sunday, I think they replay Casey Kasum that 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.719 week back in the seventies with his countdown and the 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.800 fact that they who would have thought you would be 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:45.679 repurposing Casey Caseum, but they are and it's it's great. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:52.120 It's just great to hear case. Let me see, all right, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.400 where are we? So we we talked to Tennessee head 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.480 football coach Jeremy Pruitt. Well I asked questions. Rob men 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.400 for the Baseball Commissioner joined, Chris Mannox talked about the 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.720 bubble and Marv Albert hold of Famer. We'll join us. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.400 Coming up. We'll get phone calls. We got a poll 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.680 question there, mcleven. We're standing with are we changing it 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.320 up for the final hour? So the poll question the 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.960 first two hours was would you like a one hundred 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:18.000 game MLB season? Sixty three percent said yes. Well, we 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.800 had the commissioner on and he said, then it not 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.200 happening that it's one sixty two, and he believes in 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.000 the historical aspect of that. He said one fifty four, 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:28.560 which is what it used to be. Then it went 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:33.280 to one sixty two. He also said that basically they 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.440 had a sixty game schedule and that was it. They 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.000 weren't budging off of that. And he does think they 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.279 got to get the World Series in playoffs in because 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.960 there's going to be a second wave coming back around. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.440 That's according to the commissioner. Yes, mccleven, I've been trying 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.440 to push this poll, but I guess it's only for 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.599 media members. But if you were a media member, would 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.760 you want to go to the bubble? I keep bringing 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.120 that question up because it just seems so restrictive as 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.280 a young in my single am I married, I'll give 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.000 you twenty five you don't have a family yet, because 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.920 obviously if you have a family, it's a difference. Yeah, 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.440 I would probably go if I was just starting out 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.360 in this business, and but I don't know how much 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.560 access you're gonna have there. And basically you're gonna be 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.800 hanging around guys who do the same thing you do. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:17.760 Who's gonna pay for it? I mean, it sounds so 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.800 expensive three months of being on the company dime. I 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.920 can't imagine many journalists can afford this on their own. 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:29.240 Well they can't. They can't. But you know how important 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.160 is this to whoever your boss is that content that 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.960 you're going to have. You have to be able to 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.760 say I'm going to get content that is going to 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.320 be worth the price of me going down there to Orlando. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.360 Media outlets are not about spending money. These No, they're 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:48.680 not a couple other synth pop. Duran Duran and The 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:54.960 Cure also in there. Both great. I don't Duran Duran, Yeah, 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.240 the Cure I should like more, but I don't. I 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.960 think I had a problem because he had I make 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:06.120 up on and his hair looked like he was Edwards scissorhands, 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:11.000 lipstick smeared his face. Love it, yeah, I never love it. Yeah, 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.400 but it's kind of glam rock or something like that. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.000 But then I was okay with Bowie dressing up the 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.800 way he did. He started us, but that was seventies. 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.880 I was different. Then saw The Cure like three years ago, 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.480 maybe at Austin City Limits, and it was awesome to 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.840 see him come walking out with that, you know, pancake 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.719 makeup face and his lipstick all in his hair, all 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.520 already like dude, Robert's still doing it. I know, Oh 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.640 my god. It was great. Yeah. When I was in 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.640 high school, there were these kids who listened to the 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.520 Smiths and the Cure and they were wear black raincoats 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.800 and be on Smoker's row and they were all Seaton 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.439 probably see I know, Paul, he's halfway there. But I 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.120 don't know if you guys had that in high school 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.760 like that the Smiths and Cure fans were a separate 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:58.960 lot that wasn't in my wheelhouse. Yeah. Well, I think 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.600 for my age group, it was more like the grunge kids. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.959 So it's like it was still kids listening to the 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.720 Smiths and the Cure and then like Nirvana. But uh yeah, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.840 still you know, trench coat, smoking cigarettes, etc. That smoker's 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.319 row thing didn't change at all, standing right across the 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.199 street from the school because if you stepped up the 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.720 grounds you got demerits. So you just went across the 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.280 street and smoked five cigarettes real quick before school. Yeah, Dan, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.280 I was on cool even then. The uncool group, the 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.440 kids listening to the Cure and Smiths and all those bands. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.719 I love those bands that were my favorite. But they 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.000 were wearing black stuff and boots and Doc Martins, and 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.599 I was there wearing a pair of khaki pants and 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.040 all the costume. I was the dork and the group 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:41.000 of dorks. Oh not kidding, man. High school was so tough. 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.800 You're just trying to fit in, and I was, you know, 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:49.920 pretty good athlete, and even then I didn't quite fit 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.920 in for some reason. I was always on the fringes 0:09:55.320 --> 0:10:02.160 and I didn't. I didn't like high school wasn't great. Yeah, 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.320 I'm club. But if you're happy, and I think this 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.600 isn't a John Hughes movie. If you're happy in high school, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.920 you're doomed to a wife disappointment. You means you peeked. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.760 Oh there were guys. Yeah, there were people who definitely peaked. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.720 Like there were girls who peaked. There were guys who peaked. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.280 And I kept thinking, one of these days, I'm gonna peak. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.600 And I'm still waiting because one of these days I'm 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:28.560 gonna peak like Kevin cost Yes, I'm gonna peak. Alrighty, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.640 A couple of phone calls in here. Let me see 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:36.400 Susanne and New York joints us on the program. Hi, Susanne, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.560 I'm good, Susanne. What's on your mind today? First time, 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:44.880 long time, six feet pre COVID hard one seventy five. Right. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.160 I just wanted to thank you all for entertaining us 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.360 during this pandemic. It's it's been really helpful and to 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.319 have a you know, a clear stained voice to listen 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.640 to every day. But I do want to remind people 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.880 when they thank us for being entertaining during the pandemic, 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:08.199 we've been entertaining before the pandemic, like, haven't we Oh no, 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.160 I don't know. I get this feeling that once the 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.880 pandemic is over, people are gonna go, I'm I'm out 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.120 of here. Oh it's just out of like extreme boredom 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:17.720 that they're like, Yeah, you know, these guys are actually 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.640 pretty funny, you know what. I'm stuck in my house 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.959 with nothing to do. You guys are kind of entertaining 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.040 anytime of the pandemic. I'm gonna tune in. Yes, no, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.800 that's not at all Dan Patrick show. We're great during 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.880 a pandemic. You're born to death. Tune into the damn 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.480 Pass when there's nothing else going on dot dot dot 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:41.160 what else, Susanne? Listen? Sure birthday with the big German Kids. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:47.880 So oh day birthday? Alrighty, well, happy birthday, Susanne. It's Eric, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.880 the big German who addrects the show on YouTube dot com, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.680 or at least tries to. It's his birthday today as well, 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.760 So Susanne, happy birthday, and thank you for calling in 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.280 and glad we could entertain you. Yes, that was a 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.319 close cousin. I broke my leg and I've been in 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.319 traction to I was forced to watch you on the 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.720 hospital bed because they couldn't a channel. Well, I've gotten 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.640 a couple of those surgery guys. Hey, I've been at home. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.800 I got surgery and uh stumbled upon the show. We're 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:18.000 very attraction friendly, your intraction, we're your show. Give me 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:23.679 the remote nope? Yeah, oh, we leave you in stitches literally, yes, Todd. 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.760 Usually the batteries dyeing the remote and you're forced to 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.720 kind of keep it on and for weeks on end, 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.079 there's nothing you could do to change the channel. You 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:36.319 can't get up. Thank you, Todd. Jacob in virtue again, 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:37.839 one of those moments when I didn't race in my head. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.840 That's what you miss, calling on me without me raising 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.079 my head the best I could do there, Susan's out. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.800 That's what you're gonna miss when the pandemic is over, 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:53.200 if they find a cure, we're in trouble. Yes, hey Jacob, 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:59.880 Hey dpuh a long time listener before the pandemic, So 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:04.400 pretend Oh good, Yeah, I just wanted to throw out 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.839 going off to kind of what Maddox was saying, how 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:11.960 much the Lakers roster now is resembling a Cleveland Cavalier's 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.040 lineup from Lebron was, you know, going through all the 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.720 finals where you kind of got a bunch of role players, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.240 and I guess throw Anthony Davis in place at Kyrie 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.120 and you got a championship team, right, Yeah, I guess so, 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.000 And you're right, Jacob. Thanks for the phone call, because 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.560 I would look at those Cleveland Cavalier teams that Lebron had. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.040 The fact he got to an NBA Finals is truly 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:36.480 remarkable with that team. I rewatched the decision last night, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:42.400 and when you realized the Knicks had Lebron, all they 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.120 had to do is not screwed up. That was it, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:51.080 and they did. And imagine if Lebron had gone to 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:57.160 New York. Now Cleveland still would have hated him, but 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.160 he would have made the Knicks relevant and you would 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.280 have probably you would have had free agents who would 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.559 have gone to play with Lebron because he's a player 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.360 you want to play with, because he shares the ball. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.959 Then he goes to Miami. The fact that he knew 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.319 right after it was over, social media was coming after 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:20.280 him and nobody was celebrating when they flew to Miami, 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.920 and you know, Chris Bosh is going there and Dwayne 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.520 Wade's going there now. They didn't help themselves with the 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.400 Boys to Men press conference, with the smoke show and 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.640 not one and not two and not three and okay, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.680 he's twenty five, he's having five. Like the things that 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:42.080 we nitpick about Lebron we would never even mention with 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:47.720 other marquee athletes, never, but with Lebron Oh, he's taking 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:52.800 his talents to South Beep. Kobe years earlier was taking 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.560 his talents to the NBA as a high schooler and 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:00.640 as sunglasses on his head and nobody said anything Lebron 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:06.520 Oh taking mbones to South Beach? All right? You know? Yeah? 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.480 Is it the South Beach part of it? Like what 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.360 part of it was so taking my talents? Yeah? I 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.720 feel like the South Beach part didn't help too, because 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:18.720 that sort of evokes like something like a celebrity party. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:24.080 Whereas Kobe, what did Kobe say, I'm taking but but 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.600 he even had that, um, well, I'm taking my challenge too, 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.800 and then he paused. They paused, and he paused, and 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.080 he pause and then you know, like he was going 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.680 to go to college. Yeah. See, the Lebron already had 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.680 so many more things and I'm not a Lebron hater 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.680 at all. I'm very much a Lebron supporter, but he 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.160 was already the chosen one. He was already he was leaving, 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.840 you know, Cleveland to join a super team to try 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.800 and win a title. Like he just had all of 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.160 these things that were kind of stacked against him. That yep, um, 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.320 you know it's Kobe was just a high school kid 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.640 taking his talents to the NBA, you know, whereas Lebron 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.480 was the chosen one who well, couldn't get it done there, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.200 but now gonna go over here to do it. Like 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.560 there was just all of these crappy storylines around him, 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.480 and you could see the frustration when Lebron would get 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.800 eliminated in the playoffs because he kept looking around, going 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.720 I'm never going to beat these teams by myself. And 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.920 nobody wants to go to Cleveland. People didn't want to 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.760 go there. With Dan Gilbert, he tried to get Chris 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:24.480 Bosh to go to Cleveland. Bosh is like, no, I'm 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.560 going I got a direct flight from Toronto to Miami. Yeah. Point. 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.880 Lebron gets criticized for jumping to different teams, but imagine 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.080 if he stayed in Cleveland and he's fifteen years in 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.920 and didn't have a title. Imagine a criticism he would be. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.720 He would get the title of greatest athlete never to 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.880 win one, and that's the worst title. I'd rather have 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.480 a lot of criticism. And he gets criticized because he 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:48.040 gets to the finals and he loses. But this is 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.400 this is an old tradition that we bashed the team 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:56.200 that loses in a championship game. We rarely celebrate Butler. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.000 We celebrated when Butler went to back to back title games. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.680 Then they that's like a win for Butler. But when 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.000 teams when the Buffalo Bills lost those four Super Bowls, 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.679 we don't credit them for going to four consecutive Super Bowls, 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.680 which will never happen again. It was always you lost 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.200 the super Bowl. You guys are bumms. He loses the 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:23.800 NBA finals, Oh, you know, Jordan never lost. He's getting 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:28.919 to more NBA Finals than Mike ever did, and he 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:33.320 might end up getting to the finals more than anybody else. Yeah, mcclub. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.119 But there's always that idea that one conference is so 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.160 much stronger than the other that it doesn't like. That's 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.119 what the Broncos and the Bills were like the AFC 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.320 was down for a long time, so the Broncos would 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.159 get out of a bad AFC. The same with lebron 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.040 in that early I know, but you have to play 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.640 the teams that are in front of you on your schedule, 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.360 like you can't go hey, you know, don't like when 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.680 Buffalo got there, so there's no other good team. Yeah 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:59.400 the AFC was bad then, Yeah, they do. We hold 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.760 that against the hatred. Oh, I do the AFC. He 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:07.880 you do. Watch Tom's gonna regret leaving that AFC, Yes, Tome. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.920 I don't think Elway got two criticized for three Super 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.680 Bowls and four years they got to snare gonna get killed. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.399 I don't think he got killed. He couldn't win the 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:16.600 big one. I thought it was more of like the 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.560 Broncos as a team. Oh that team again, they're gonna 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.639 be just left thirty nine, twenty and forty two ten, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.919 now fifty five ten. I don't remember it being all 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.960 so much on always there's a running joke in The 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.920 Simpsons about how the Denver Broncos can't walk and chew 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:30.720 gum at the same time. In the late eighties, it's 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.560 he'd they get killed. Oh yeah, and you're right, but 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.280 they were getting blown out. That was the problem. If 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.200 you got to the Super Bowl and you got blown out, 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:43.200 you were forgotten. You were left for dead. Yeah. Yeah, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.320 Elway was oh and three and is the third super Bowl. 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.080 He had two picks. I mean he was It was 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.119 tough time, so you could find stories. Yeah, mclob do 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.000 you think Lebron would have won though, if he stayed 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.159 found a way to get players there? Eventually? He obviously 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.920 did win in Cleveland if he had never left at 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.720 some point, don't you think he could have gotten somewhere 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.560 in the go there? I mean, he obviously won't one there. Well, 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:07.040 he had Kyrie and you have Kevin Love, so Kyrie 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.879 is there. If Lebron doesn't leave, then Kyrie is not 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.480 taken by the Cavaliers because they want to have the 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.040 number one pick. And then they used another number one pick. 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.040 Was that Wiggins who they sent to Minnesota to get 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:24.040 Kevin Love? So he did he helped build the Calves 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.480 accidentally by leaving so they could get Kyrie Irving and 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.080 then coming back and then they had some you know, 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.400 collateral that they could send to Minnesota to get Kevin Love. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.880 But that's the only way they got people. Yeah, pull 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:39.800 going back to Alway, not to pile on because he 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:42.280 is one of the all time greatest. He was over 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:43.840 for three in the Super Bowl and the third Super 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.080 Bowl he was ten of twenty six for one hundred 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.439 and eight yards, no touchdowns, two picks, and then they 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.240 went seven more years without appearing the Super Bowl. Always 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.520 career is drastically changed by those last two. Yeah, I mean, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.639 I know it's captain obvious, but you gotta look at 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.520 it at the time thanks to Trell Davis, I mean 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.440 that he I think Terrell Davis, you know, you can say, 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.760 is largely responsible for how Elway is now perceived because 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.199 they ran the football. They ran it down the throats 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.680 in the opposition in those Super Bowls, especially Green Bay. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.040 But if they don't win, then Elway is not in 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:22.840 the conversation as you know, greatest quarterback. I mean he's 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.159 not the greatest quarterback. I think he's as talented, if 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.960 not more talented, than any quarterback I ever saw. And 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.479 a game on the line, Elway. Would you know, if 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:35.080 you say, hey, you're taking Montana or Marino or Brady 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.000 or Russell Will and you give me Elway, I'm good 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:39.960 with that. All right, We'll take a break. More phone 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.720 calls coming up. We'll check in with Marv Albert. He's 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:46.520 not going to the bubble in Orlando. How concerned Izzy 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.680 about this season getting off to a good start and 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.280 maybe seeing it through to completion? Twenty two after the hour, 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.440 This is The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.840 The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.520 live every weekday morning nine noon Eastern or six to 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.760 nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.400 for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.720 or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.879 by searching f s R. More phone calls coming up. 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.560 I think we got a busy show tomorrow as well. 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:22.480 Don Mattingly, he's going to join us. Robinson of a 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.399 Heat you didn't even know. You make it sound like 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:29.320 you know he came from a division three starts hitting 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.320 a bunch of three pointers. Next two weeks ago, you 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.400 didn't know who he was. And then I said, he's 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.360 got an unbelievable backstory and a little research. It sounds 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.040 like someone worth having on the show. Yeah, you should 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.440 do more of that. Tony Clark's coming on tomorrow. MLB executive. Okay, 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.720 all right, let me let me go conspiracy theorist, who 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.560 is book for? No? Who is book first? Tony Clark? 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.399 Or Baseball Commissioner Rob Man? That would be Tony Clark 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:56.600 for tomorrow? Do you think? Yes? Okay, I believe you. 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:01.639