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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast breaking news episode.

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Speaker 2: We can finally say it's safe to say that the

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Speaker 2: Bachelorette will not be happening this year. They are going

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Speaker 2: to skip a season for now, That's what it seems like.

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Speaker 2: So I had to have two bachelorettes on me on

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Speaker 2: with me to talk about this news. We have Tristi

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Speaker 2: Sutter and Rachel Rekia. Hey, guys, what was your initial

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Speaker 2: take to this?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I was shocked because I heard

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Speaker 3: they picked the lead. I heard the lead was like decided,

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Speaker 3: and it made sense to me who they picked again rumors,

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I saw this on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: like really, like we hear stuff on the inside, I

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Speaker 3: didn't hear anything.

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Speaker 2: So Ben told us, I want to say, two weeks

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Speaker 2: ago we were about to record an episode. I think

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Speaker 2: he was with wells Or around that time, and he goes, so, guys,

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Speaker 2: guess what, like I heard that the Bachelorette's not happening.

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Speaker 2: Because sorry, Ben, if you didn't want me to tell

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Speaker 2: you to tell this part, but he said, because those

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Speaker 2: that housewives show the Mormon Housewives, which is different than

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Speaker 2: like the Umbrella, you know, the Bravo Housewives. Because that's

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Speaker 2: doing so well, they're going to use the Bachelorette time

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Speaker 2: slot because it's the same demographic. Yeah, so the same

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Speaker 2: people are watching that, but it's getting it's doing so

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Speaker 2: well on Hulu that it did so well on Hulu

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Speaker 2: the first season that they brought it to air after

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Speaker 2: the Bachelorette. Current The Bachelor currently on Monday nights at

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Speaker 2: ten pm, and now they're going to use the normal

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Speaker 2: Bachelorette time slot for Mormon Wives. Trista, Wow.

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Speaker 4: You know, honestly, I'm not that shocked because I feel

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Speaker 4: like we kind of mentioned it before where we got

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Speaker 4: on the before we started recording, and it's basically they

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Speaker 4: find another show to replace it, and they've got so

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Speaker 4: many shows in the bucket currently that I feel like,

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Speaker 4: you know, with Bachelor in Paradise coming back, I assume

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Speaker 4: that's correct, and then with the Golden Stuff, I feel

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Speaker 4: like I wasn't shocked when I heard The Bachelor. Well,

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Speaker 4: I was a little bit shocked when I heard The

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Speaker 4: Bachelorne Paradise wasn't coming back, because I felt like it

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Speaker 4: did there well yeah, yeah, exactly last year. So I

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Speaker 4: wasn't shocked then, and it's I'm kind of in the

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Speaker 4: same I'm in the same boat right now with Bachelorette.

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Speaker 4: Like if there's you know, they've got Golden Bachelor Bachelorette,

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Speaker 4: and they've got Bachelor and Paradise coming back supposedly, so

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Speaker 4: maybe they're just gonna, you know, take a short little

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Speaker 4: break for summer with Bachelorette. And I'm not taking it

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Speaker 4: as it's going away forever, like I feel like some

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Speaker 4: people probably are taking it as it's going away forever

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Speaker 4: or might not ever come back. But I guess I

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Speaker 4: just since I was the first to you know, be

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Speaker 4: on it and it's stuck around for over twenty years

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Speaker 4: that I'm like, it's not going away. If you know,

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Speaker 4: it would have gone away earlier if it didn't, I

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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I thought that there was a pause in it in

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Speaker 2: the mid two thousands.

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Speaker 4: You're right, Like, I mean, I'm talking about big picture,

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Speaker 4: it hasn't gone away like it's come like if it's

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Speaker 4: taken a break, it's come back. And so I guess

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Speaker 4: I just don't. I I've been with the show for

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Speaker 4: so long that I just feel like it's not going

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Speaker 4: to go away forever. Maybe it will someday, but I

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Speaker 4: don't know if this is the time.

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Speaker 2: Basically, they have too much on their docker right now

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Speaker 2: once they've added the Golden Bachelor to the franchise, Like

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Speaker 2: four shows a year is too much. So last year

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Speaker 2: they took out Paradise and this year they're going to

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Speaker 2: take out Bachelorette, and I guess it'll just kind of

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Speaker 2: be a wait and see to which one which way

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Speaker 3: Writings wise, is Golden that well?

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't think that Golden Bachelorette did spectacular,

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Speaker 2: So I think they're just probably going to try this

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Speaker 2: weird long term if the Bachelorette is what they weed out.

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Speaker 3: Agree they need it for Paradise, Like you have to

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Speaker 3: have the continuous cycle for Paradise to work. Which I

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Speaker 3: feel like Paradise is their best show, not last season,

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Speaker 3: not the last one they did traditionally it does.

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Speaker 2: The best well, not writings wise, but it seems like

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Speaker 2: in the fandom's opinion, it's what they prefer to watch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's so true. They need it for for Paradise.

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Speaker 4: They have to have they have to have Bachelor, and

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Speaker 4: they have to have Bachelorette unless they're going to do

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Speaker 4: a Golden Paradise, which I don't see.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, can.

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Speaker 2: You imagine We're gonna have to like dive back into

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Speaker 2: The Bachelor but didn't do the Bachelor atte for a while.

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Speaker 2: Figure out how long it was without Does anybody have

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Speaker 2: any I'm talking to producers right now, but do we

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Speaker 2: have any insight on this season's ratings? Did they make

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Speaker 2: this decision final because of the premiere? I think it

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Speaker 2: was before the premiere that this was something talked about

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Speaker 2: amongst the higher ups, because Ben seemed to know before

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Speaker 2: this season permiered that this was something that they were considering.

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Speaker 2: We do have a little info from our executive podcast

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Speaker 2: producer right here. She said that the whole team found

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Speaker 2: out Friday. There's lots of uncertainty, a lot of crew

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Speaker 2: out of work because an entirely new team is doing

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Speaker 2: Paradise and the future of the Golden Show is to

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Speaker 2: be determined. They are still running those ads for casting,

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Speaker 2: but nothing is set and stone. So does anybody think

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Speaker 2: that this is the beginning of the end, Like, no,

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Speaker 2: it can't be.

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Speaker 3: No, it's like crazy to believe. But I did hear,

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Speaker 3: like because obviously I hear the Paradise rumor mill, like

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Speaker 3: people are starting to get that call, and yeah, I

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Speaker 3: know it's like none of our producers are going to

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Speaker 3: be there. Wow, I can't even imagine filming and like

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Speaker 3: just having a whole new team, Like it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a completely different show.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't have the relationship with those producers going into Paradise,

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Speaker 2: which makes I mean that makes the interviews knowing those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't imagine going to parent. I don't think

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Speaker 3: I would go if it was.

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Speaker 2: All I will tell you that, Like the main reason

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Speaker 2: that I went the first time was because I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I get to hang out with my

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Speaker 2: friends again. And a majority of those friends, I would say,

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Speaker 2: was producer's side, Like I just wanted that family back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that makes total sense.

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Speaker 3: The location, new team. I mean, I think the cast

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Speaker 3: it is. I hope it's not the beginning of the end,

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Speaker 3: but it is scary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, any final thoughts, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Are you guys watching the Mormon Show?

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Speaker 3: Have I actually really like it? I watch I watched

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Speaker 3: last season. It's interesting. Do I think he could go

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Speaker 3: on for more than like three seasons? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They're really really messy, like they continue to have drama,

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Speaker 3: like even off season. They post about it on TikTok.

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Speaker 3: So I think the fact that they have the off

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Rachel, I just feel like it was

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Speaker 2: really juicy when you said that they had already picked

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Speaker 2: the bachelorette. So this seems like a ratings thing.

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Speaker 3: I know, again, like we all hear so much, but

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Speaker 3: I heard this it was like two months ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that they picked her, like right off the finale.

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Speaker 3: They knew who it was going.

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Speaker 4: To be after they filmed grants. Yeah, after they finished

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Speaker 4: filming you mean they were they knew exactly who they

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Speaker 3: I heard that. I heard a name, Okay, and I

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Speaker 3: heard from someone who usually like knows, like normally it's

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Speaker 3: a good source, but I don't know. So maybe it

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Speaker 3: is a ratings thing and maybe we'll just see her

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Speaker 3: come back next year. And hopefully that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: We have heard room Ben has heard. Okay, hold on,

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Speaker 2: Ben has heard rumors of the ending of this. I

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Speaker 2: don't even think he knows who, like the two women

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Speaker 2: there will be two because we know that Grant has

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Speaker 2: to like has that dramatic decision the last day where

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Speaker 2: he like doesn't even know the day of. So that's

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Speaker 2: not a spoiler. But if Ben's what Ben has heard

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Speaker 2: about the finale is true, you would think there would

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Speaker 2: be issue in for Bachelorette like that the audience might

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Speaker 2: get really annoyed. Yeah, that it's not number two, got it.

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Speaker 3: I personally really enjoy it when it's the runner up,

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Speaker 3: like Joey, Like, I love that because I know so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so totally hopefully.

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Speaker 4: I would love to know ratings wise. Is so they're

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Speaker 4: talking about, you know, not doing Bachelorette because ratings are bad?

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Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying on Grant season?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I can't remember I think I think

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Speaker 2: Grand Season might be the worst of all seasons. Really, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because Joey's spiked again. Joey seems like he is the

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Speaker 4: Or although Golden started with it and then he started

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Speaker 4: with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting to me because

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Speaker 4: I feel like people are talking. I mean, I'm drawn in,

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Speaker 4: Like I feel like there are multiple people who have

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Speaker 4: I am because I actually like it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting to me that the ratings aren't great, but

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Speaker 4: they always change, like people like grow, you know, like

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Speaker 4: grows more and more as the season goes on. So

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Speaker 4: it's that's shocking to me that they would already make

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Speaker 3: But isn't the first like Night one? Isn't that always

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Speaker 3: Night one in the last.

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Speaker 2: One or Night one and the last one are usually

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if Night one already is starting off, like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's watching this season, I haven't really

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Speaker 3: heard much. I just started, But I mean I like

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Speaker 3: it from what I've seen, but it could also be

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Speaker 3: a thing again, right, I don't feel like I was

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Speaker 3: as invested in grant story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we didn't know him beforehand. Maybe they need

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Speaker 2: maybe they need to stop picking people that weren't in

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Speaker 2: the top three.

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Speaker 3: I agree, that's my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Also, I know what's happened before in a wonderful way

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Speaker 2: aka Hannah Brown was an exception to the rule. But

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Speaker 2: let's be real, it's an exception to the rules.

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Speaker 3: I feel like every time they've taken like someone who

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Speaker 3: didn't even make it to hometowns, no one really watched.

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Speaker 3: I guess Matt Jane's season was different too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt season was a little different I Grant.

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Speaker 4: It's funny that you say that, because I've always had

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Speaker 4: the opposite idea, is that I've always wanted them to

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Speaker 4: part of why The Golden was so popular, is because

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Speaker 4: we all felt in love with Gary from this from

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Speaker 4: the start, and no one knew him, you know, And

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Speaker 4: so I feel like that was really popular. And maybe

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Speaker 4: it was just because it was new and exciting, and

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Speaker 4: you know, they obviously have this different storyline, but it

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Speaker 4: would be interesting to see because I agree with you,

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Speaker 4: the top three are the people who you're most invested in.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'm like, well, what about

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Speaker 4: the flip side of somebody who nobody knows but we

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Speaker 4: all get to fall in love with them together?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, So so let's talk about ratings.

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Speaker 2: I finally found it on the internet. It looks as

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Speaker 2: if and I'm not a Nielsen expert, but it looks

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Speaker 2: like it was down twenty percent from Joey season with

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Speaker 2: two point seven million viewers watching, and then the following

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Speaker 2: week they dropped to two point three million, So half

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Speaker 2: a million almost dropped off. Wow, between the premiere and

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Speaker 2: the second week.

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Speaker 3: How does that compare to Zach's season? Though, Like, obviously

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Speaker 3: Joey we know that. Spike was like, Yeah, when was

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Speaker 3: last time we had viewers like that? I wonder if

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Speaker 3: it's similar to Zach And it just looks like it's

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Speaker 3: going down. But then again the second episode, that's.

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Speaker 2: Bad, Yeah for sure, Okay, and then we finally want

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Speaker 2: to talk about just people losing their jobs. That's just

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Speaker 2: really sucky and really sad because we may know some

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Speaker 2: of these people and what's the reason for hiring a

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Speaker 2: and really really unfortunate. That's very sad.

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Speaker 4: I hate to think about people that we all know

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Speaker 4: losing their jobs, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially once they it's like a way of life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they've gotten into this like you know,

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Speaker 4: cycle of doing whatever shows on and and maybe they

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Speaker 4: want to break who knows. Yeah, if some of them

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Speaker 4: like actually are overworked, you know, in a way, not overworked,

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Speaker 4: because I'm sure they wouldn't overwork them, but they're just

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Speaker 4: really tired because they're constantly traveling and you know, the

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Speaker 4: days are long, and so maybe that's what they're factoring in.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I do I would want them

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Speaker 4: to have the opportunity to have a job instead of

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Speaker 4: just you know, lose it outright, Yeah, make it be

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Speaker 4: them their choice.

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Speaker 2: Right in a month before they thought they'd be going

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Speaker 2: for a whole of the round. All right, ladies, Well,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me for this breaking news,

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Speaker 2: this sad, breaking news, but also in my head, not

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Speaker 2: super surprising. We will find out more soon, and of

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Speaker 2: course we'll keep you updated year with the news and

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Speaker 2: our opinions. On it until next time I've been Ashley Sea.

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