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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Everybody. Welcome to the craziest episode of Territory yet. I'm Chandlern.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Stafford is somewhere in Houston, and Josh Reddick is

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Speaker 2: where are you?

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Speaker 3: Josh Breckinridge, Colorado?

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Speaker 2: This was we promised you guys, if we got to

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Speaker 2: sixty likes or if we got to sixty reviews and

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Speaker 2: rates on Apple, that Josh would do this live from

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Speaker 2: a mountaintop. Josh, there are people that are not watching

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Speaker 2: on YouTube, So can you describe to people what you're

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Speaker 2: wearing right now?

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Speaker 4: So if you want a quick quick answer, it's a

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Speaker 4: Tipsy l suit.

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Speaker 3: It's actually a.

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Speaker 4: Ski suit, even though I'm a border but but my buddy,

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Speaker 4: my buddy actually got this for me last year. So

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Speaker 4: it just it just fits the persona man. So you

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Speaker 4: can go to Tipsy. This is I think it's just

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Speaker 4: called the USA suit full on zip up, and you

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Speaker 4: know why not?

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Speaker 3: This just fits.

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Speaker 2: We're used to We're used to seeing you in us

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Speaker 2: A themed apparel, but in like with a lot more

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Speaker 2: skin showing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people, people, people might be a little bit more

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Speaker 4: happier now that there's less skin showing.

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Speaker 1: So you're looking great, man, I mean it fits perfectly. Tyler.

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Speaker 2: I know you're the I know you're the Breckenridge aficionado.

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Speaker 2: So if you've got any questions about where he is,

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Speaker 2: like try let's try to tell the people where you're at. Specifically, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: you and Josh talk about Yeah, where where this is?

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Speaker 1: What run are we on?

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Speaker 5: All?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm going down four o'clock. I haven't made the

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Speaker 4: fork off. My kids are in snowboard school, so when

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Speaker 4: I'm done here, I'm just gonna make a little peak

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Speaker 4: over see how they're doing. So I'm about to go past.

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Speaker 4: Is that rip for five no five cheer?

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Speaker 3: Five cheer? Uh huh for five chairs right right there

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Speaker 3: in front of me?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, where's the spot where you got to make

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Speaker 1: sure that you keep speed or else? You get with all.

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Speaker 3: That they were actually that they were reached slow.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yeah you got you gotta blast through it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, That's why I'm doing it from right here and

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Speaker 4: not down there, so I can you got on the

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Speaker 4: slants so you can see. I just I have plenty

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Speaker 4: enough to get there.

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Speaker 1: There you go. That's actressful, man.

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Speaker 4: So Josh, you just snowboard, you don't ski, No, So

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Speaker 4: that's like, we're not k I started last year, so

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Speaker 4: last Weirdner was my first year. And for those that

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Speaker 4: don't know, my wife was a pro snowboarder in her twenties,

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Speaker 4: so she traveled the world doing all kinds of crazy stuff,

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Speaker 4: jumping at the helicopters and doing all kinds of crazy things.

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Speaker 4: So when I started and my boys started, we didn't

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Speaker 4: really have a choice, which in reality, I've never gotten

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Speaker 4: on skis, but I'll tell you what I can guarantee

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Speaker 4: you snowboarding is way more fun than getting on those things.

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Speaker 1: I needed to I need to do it. I you know,

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Speaker 1: growing up in Texas, I would only get two or

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Speaker 1: three days at a time, and so I never wanted

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Speaker 3: That's everybody's that's everybody everybody's reason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So now that I have got a buddy up

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Speaker 1: in Breckenridge, maybe I'll come up and you can teach

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Speaker 3: Pick Yeah, man, we come out.

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Speaker 4: My wife might teach you better than I can. But

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Speaker 4: we got a good ski and ski out too, so

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Speaker 4: you can just strap it up and go.

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Speaker 1: My main issue is how goofy you guys look getting

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Speaker 1: off a lift. And you have to sit down and

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Speaker 1: get your little duck feet settled into your snowboard. You

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Speaker 1: look so cool except for when you're not moving.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's the only time we don't look cool, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Skiers look not cool the whole time, So I'll take

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Speaker 4: that trade off. And but yeah, sometimes we stand up

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Speaker 4: and we board up. Man, you know, we don't always

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Speaker 4: sit down. Depends on what run you're on.

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Speaker 1: Hey, did you see the guy in the X game

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Speaker 1: the other day that hit what was it, like a

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Speaker 1: twenty three eighty or something. I mean he spent like

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Speaker 1: ten times in the air.

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Speaker 3: No, I did not, dude, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody hit the first ever. I think it was

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Speaker 1: a twenty three eighty. I literally can't even calculate how

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Speaker 1: all many times they're rotating.

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Speaker 2: But that's a lot, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up in the Tony Hawk era

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Speaker 1: of skateboarding, so I have a nine hundred stuck in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just imagine how big Remember how big a deal

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Speaker 4: it was when Tony Hawk hit that in the half light?

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Speaker 1: Heck you I remember watching on like ESPN him trying

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Speaker 1: to hit it late that night. So I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: So do you get I mean, you don't even stand

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Speaker 1: out in breckage. I'm sure in this suit. But what

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Speaker 1: other people have you passed today? I always see a

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Speaker 3: What my buddy of mine from Georgia who actually got

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Speaker 3: me this. He also has a Tipsy y Elves suit

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Speaker 3: and it's like.

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Speaker 4: Bright neon pink yellow like orange like you see him

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Speaker 4: from from Joe nine. You can see him at seven

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Speaker 4: pretty much. Yeah, but yeah, you see plenty of Tipsy

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Speaker 4: Yells outfits out here. I haven't seen many costs. You

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Speaker 4: lot of Kansas City Chiefs jerseys this past weekend. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pretty don't know him to stand out.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a standard guy as most No I've got

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Speaker 4: you know, I got my Jeorgia Bulldog jersey hanging in

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Speaker 4: If people watch the show Suresy, I've got one of

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Speaker 4: his jerseys hanging in my closet. So there's definitely nothing

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Speaker 4: in the norm for me. Everybody already knows that anyway,

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Speaker 4: So no surprise there.

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Speaker 2: Is that is that a brat sticker on your helmet?

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Speaker 6: Sure is put out your phone and find out, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna get Yes you are.

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Speaker 4: I've gotten about five people in line already, just read

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Speaker 4: them doing it and the son.

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Speaker 3: That's why it's on there.

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Speaker 1: That's so funny.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Well, Josh, I imagine you you've you've been in Recorde.

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Speaker 2: You said your kids are in school. A lot of

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Speaker 2: The last week and a half within Astroville has been hectic,

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Speaker 2: to say the least. Alex Bregman's still unsigned. The Astros

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Speaker 2: is that Ryan Presley will not be an Astro next year.

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Speaker 2: Traded to the Chicago Cubs and what was basically a

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Speaker 2: salary dump, Like let's not try like Dana Brown tried

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Speaker 2: It was a salary dump. They wanted his fourteen million

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Speaker 2: off the books. They got eight and a half million

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Speaker 2: maybe sign Bregman. Who knows, but this was a salary dump.

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Speaker 2: Josh and I guess your reaction to the Presley trade

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Speaker 2: and are you surprised that we've now seen two salary

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Speaker 2: Presley hemp surprising is that team?

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Speaker 3: It's very surprising.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I think we all are pretty

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Speaker 4: clear that Presley was upset that he lost his closer

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Speaker 4: have to do anything to lose that job. Obviously, with

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Speaker 4: Hayry you get a five star close of it. Presley

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Speaker 3: Just close out the road series for you.

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Speaker 4: He's been pretty phenomenal for you ever since he got

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Speaker 4: and you know, pretty much no problem accepting that no

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Speaker 4: trade clause and getting out of it. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: agree with you one hundred percent salary to hopefully try

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Speaker 4: where they need to be. But to two so closely

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Speaker 4: pretty crazy when they should have probably just maybe had

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Speaker 4: more for both of them, I'm guessing, but we'll see

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Speaker 4: how that pans out for that.

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Speaker 3: For that pitching.

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Speaker 2: Prospect, we know that that job that uh not Josh.

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Speaker 2: We know that Ryan Presley was upset obviously that the

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Speaker 2: Astros acquired signed Josh Hater last year. We know that

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Speaker 2: because Dana Brown on Tuesday, during a zoom with the

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Speaker 2: executive describing that his relationship with Ryan Presley really soured

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Speaker 2: throughout last season. It was something that was plainly known

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Speaker 2: You've been around a lot of you know, clubhouses, things

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Speaker 4: Very I mean, this is a business in a sport

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that Ryan lost a lot of respect for

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Speaker 4: somebody like that just to come out and say, you know,

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Speaker 4: matter what. But you know, I think that something should

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Speaker 4: You don't want to have sour relationships because you never

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Speaker 4: know how that's going to affect the player and he

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Speaker 4: may not want to go out there, and you know,

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Speaker 4: perform is best for you. He's still gonna be a

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Speaker 4: But to have that come from somebody in that position.

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Speaker 3: It's it's pretty hard. It's a pretty tough pill to swallow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was so weird to read, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just unprompt, like you don't have to say that,

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Speaker 1: even if it's true, you know, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: say it out loud into a microphone. Very very strange.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, the other news we mentioned maybe

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Speaker 1: trying to sign Bregman Uh And with that came some

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Speaker 1: of the silliest Astro's news. I think we've had in

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Speaker 1: a lot, which is jose L Tuve and the possibility

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Speaker 1: of moving to left field. So you are our resident

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Speaker 1: Is that is that a possibility?

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Speaker 4: I mean, anything is possible. Just to quote Kevin Quote

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Speaker 4: Kevin Garnett real quick. You know, you see crazier things.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at the guys, like you know, Tatis

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Speaker 3: But can he do it? Absolutely that think you picked

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Speaker 2: All right, Josh, Well this was great. We'll have to

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Speaker 3: I don't sir. If we can definitely make it a Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: Office, absolutely be a little hot tub action for you.

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Speaker 1: How about meet up in Hawaii? You want to help

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Speaker 3: What a crush beat up? Yeah, hey, you get there,

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Speaker 3: we'll make it happen, all right.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're at okay as of right now, sixty

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Speaker 2: a show on a hot tub.

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Speaker 1: That work.

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Speaker 3: I'll do a show in a hot tub. We don't

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Speaker 2: For sure, will happen. We will get it done. One

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Speaker 2: have fun. Josh, stay upright, stay healthy, because the astros

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Speaker 3: I just started working out again, so they got my number.

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Speaker 1: I gotta stop snowboarding if you do right, If you

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Speaker 3: If hey, I'll make that trade deal. Baseball is more fun.

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Speaker 2: All right, Josh?

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Speaker 3: Al right, guys, have a good one to you.

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Speaker 2: All right, I feel like Tyler, we didn't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: off the books, but there was also you know, they

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Speaker 2: knew that the relationship there was was pretty much irreparable

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't going to be fixed overnight, and that

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Speaker 2: is at least part of the reason why Ryan Presley

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Speaker 2: is no longer an astro and Tyler. That just kind

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Speaker 2: of speaks to a kind of cruel, cold side of

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Speaker 2: the business that you know. Ryan Presley was on a

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Speaker 2: zoom with Cubs reporters yesterday and said he wanted to

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Speaker 2: retire as an astro. That could still happen. I guess

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Speaker 2: I could resign him after this season, but it did

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Speaker 2: not sound He did not sound like a guy that

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Speaker 2: wanted to leave. He sounded like a guy that wanted

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Speaker 2: to stay here, but just circumstances out of his control

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Speaker 2: and a lot of a difficult year for him ends

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Speaker 2: kind of how we all thought it would.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those situations where I think it's

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Speaker 1: really easy to understand both sides, Like I completely get

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Speaker 1: how Ryan Presley can be upset and hurt and feel

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Speaker 1: betrayed by having you know, the team that he's closed

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Speaker 1: for for what six seven years and did not do

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Speaker 1: anything to warrant a emotion. But also, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you sign Josh Hater, he's your closer. Like that's just

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Speaker 1: that's the reality, right. I mean, Josh joked about in

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen when the Astros you know, might have traded

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Speaker 1: for Bryce Harper, him saying like, well, I understand if

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper comes here, you know I'm not playing, and

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Speaker 1: like you get that, that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 1: And so I completely understand both sides there. And you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously we were not in the conversations of Dana Brown

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Speaker 1: calling Presley to say, hey, this is a possibility whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it could have been handled better

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Speaker 1: or differently, but I don't think. I mean, there's not

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Speaker 1: a there's not an easy way to call your closer

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're signing a better closer and you're

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Speaker 1: not going to be the closer anymore. It's just really

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Speaker 1: weird to say that in a press conference. Now, as

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Speaker 1: you and I both varying degrees of journalists here, you

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Speaker 1: want people to be honest and to answer, so you

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Speaker 1: don't want to say, like, don't say that right, because

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Speaker 1: like that's good whenever people are honest. You don't want

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Speaker 1: just canned answers. But it was really, it was really

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Speaker 1: strange to see that quote.

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Speaker 2: For sure, I for one, am never going to begrudge

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Speaker 2: Dana Brown for being candid. I would rather this as

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Speaker 2: just a reporter as and it's not even it's for

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Speaker 2: my own it's selfishly sure, but like for the fans too,

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Speaker 2: like this gives you like natural insight, like you like

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Speaker 2: you're not being gas lit or fed crap that oh

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Speaker 2: like we like, I mean, Dana Brown got on that

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Speaker 2: zoom the other day and try to talk up wan

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Speaker 2: Bello and maybe wan Bello will turn into an eight

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Speaker 2: time cy Young Winner. Maybe I don't know. But like

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Speaker 2: the Ashers did not try Ryan Presley because they love

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Speaker 2: jan Bello, who was a twenty year old Colombian pitcher

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Speaker 2: that they they're going to stick in the lower levels

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Speaker 2: of the minor leagues. Like that's not why this happened.

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Speaker 2: This happened because they needed room financially. They needed to

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Speaker 2: dump his salary and there was a rift between Ryan

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Speaker 2: Presley and his boss and the money had a lot

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Speaker 2: more to do with it than the rift. But now

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Speaker 2: we have like a full story, like like you know,

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Speaker 2: it was funny at FanFest Dana Brown. You know, I

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Speaker 2: asked him again, I said, are you is this This

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Speaker 2: was when the deal was on the table, but Presley

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Speaker 2: hadn't weighed the no trade yet. We asked, you know,

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Speaker 2: is this due to his performance or is this due

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Speaker 2: to you needing money on your payroll? And he tried

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Speaker 2: to say, oh, we do all this to get returns. No,

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Speaker 2: you did not make this trade to get a return.

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Speaker 2: You made this trade to dump salary.

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Speaker 1: And with this.

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Speaker 2: Room, as we talked about with John h Alex Bregman,

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Speaker 2: still looms out there. There has been no substantial movement

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Speaker 2: in his market, though I think it is getting a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I think it is moving a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think anything is imminent. I say that,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to get off this podcast. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: sign somewhere. But the other guy that has been talked

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Speaker 2: about a lot is Jorge Polanco, switch hitter, underwent knee

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Speaker 2: surgery in October on his left knee. Has been fully

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Speaker 2: cleared to resume all baseball activities. Should be one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent in spring training should be one hundred percent when

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Speaker 2: the season starts. Did not have a good year in

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Speaker 2: Seattle last year, but no one ever has good years

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Speaker 2: in Seattle because no one can hit there. Also, his

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Speaker 2: knee was a problem. My informed speculation is that the

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Speaker 2: Astros are going to get one of these two players.

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Speaker 2: They are either going to sign Bregman or they're going

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Speaker 2: to sign Polanco, and if that happens, Jose al Tuvey

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Speaker 2: will go to left field.

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Speaker 5: Matter what.

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Speaker 2: Dana Brown basically said that on the Zoom too, that

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Speaker 2: Altuove is gonna split time between second base and left field.

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Speaker 2: Altuve is going to play left field in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five A little bit. Uh, what do you think, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: when when I say the name Jorge Polanco? Does that? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Does that excite you? Does that?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Does that get you going? Like? Like? Is that? Is

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Speaker 2: that a Is that a suitable fallback if Alex Bregman's

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Speaker 2: not back in Houston?

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Speaker 1: Uh? First off, before we get into that, I maybe

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Speaker 1: you know this answer already. I just I looked it up.

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Speaker 1: How old do you think Horge Polanco is?

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked at I've written about him last three

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Speaker 2: days and haven't looked it up. I probably say twenty

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Speaker 2: six what I thought he was like forty.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's been in the league forever. He has.

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Speaker 1: He debuted in twenty fourteen. He has been around forever.

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Speaker 1: He's only thirty one. Oh okay, but I mean I

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Speaker 1: just feel like that's a name that's been in baseball forever,

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Speaker 1: you know, like Horne Blanca. Of course, he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that's gonna get two war and you know, he's just

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Speaker 1: there and he's a he's a piece, which is a

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Speaker 1: valuable piece. So it makes sense. I get it. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna like shoot off fireworks, uh that hogee, Polanco's

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Speaker 1: on the team, But it makes sense. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a way to fill a hole in the lineup,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a pretty consistent person, you know, like

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Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna worry about what what that's going

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Speaker 1: to be. But yeah, I would I would definitely prefer

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Speaker 1: Alex Bregman. I don't know if you've heard of him,

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Speaker 1: I would rather have him play for the Astros. Personally.

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Speaker 2: That that seemed you seem to echo a lot of

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Speaker 2: the fan base because when the reporting came out about

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Speaker 2: Jorge Polanco. My Twitter mentions were not pretty. People did

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Speaker 2: not love that.

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Speaker 1: Option are normally really nice to you though, right, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they love me. Everyone on Twitter loves me and

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Speaker 2: thanks me for my work, doesn't doesn't get mad that

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Speaker 2: it's behind a paywall. You know, They're very understanding and

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Speaker 2: I appreciate. That's why I love every single one of

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Speaker 2: my Twitter followers.

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Speaker 1: I like when you say like something like like the

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Speaker 1: other day you were like, oh, the Presley trade has done,

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Speaker 1: and immediately someone's like, who's coming back? Like you think

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have just I wouldn't have just written that

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Speaker 1: if I already I knew you think I was waiting

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Speaker 1: on a reply like oh yeah, I forgot to mention that.

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Speaker 2: My favorite is. And again I understand the Athletics behind

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Speaker 2: a paywall and not a lot of And there's people

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Speaker 2: that I'm never going to tell people what to do

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Speaker 2: with their own money, Like I would love it if

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Speaker 2: you subscribe to the Athletic, but I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: sit here and browbeat you about subscribing. But now I

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Speaker 2: do love the replies I get that are literally questions

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Speaker 2: that are written about and answered within the first two

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Speaker 2: paragraphs of a story I just posed like that is

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Speaker 2: that is probably the most frustrating. But again, never going

587
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Speaker 2: to tell people what to do with their money, but

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Speaker 2: please subscribe to the Athletic. It would really really help Tyler.

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Speaker 2: How much of all of this is maybe more of

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Speaker 2: a you know, we talked about it a little bit

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Speaker 2: on the last pod that Josel Tuve was always gonna

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Speaker 2: have to move off to second base. He was not

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Speaker 2: going to end his career as the Astros second baseman.

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Speaker 2: I guess maybe it's now coming into full view that

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Speaker 2: that was probably that this may have been a plan

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Speaker 2: that they had been talking about and kept from us

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Speaker 2: very well. This may have been because it sounds like

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Speaker 2: either way, like if Jorge Polanco comes in here, he's

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Speaker 2: going to play the majority of the time at second base,

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Speaker 2: flex Bregman comes here, Estak Paratus is going to go

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Speaker 2: to second base, like they both of their plans right

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Speaker 2: now involve another second basement. So how much of this

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Speaker 2: is I guess it's twofold. How much of this is

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Speaker 2: they need to get a bad defensive second basement off

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Speaker 2: of second base with the pitching staff that they have,

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Speaker 2: and how much of it is they don't have a

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Speaker 2: ton of belief in the outfielders they have in the system,

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Speaker 2: whether it's Melting, whether it's Dezenzo, who knows, they don't

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Speaker 2: have a ton of belief in them, so they need

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Speaker 2: to stick out tu V out there until they can

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Speaker 2: get some guys that they believe in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I to me, it doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: a thing that they've been ruminating on for a while.

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Speaker 1: It's just they traded Kyle Tucker and suddenly realized, oh, shoot,

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Speaker 1: we don't have three playable major league outfielders and you

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Speaker 1: need four.

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Speaker 2: I would argue that they should have known that before

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Speaker 2: they traded Kyle Tucker, but that's sure a different day.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it doesn't seem like something that they

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Speaker 1: were like, oh, this was our plan going in in

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Speaker 1: the off season, right. It's just they kind of looked

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Speaker 1: up and we're like, oh, oh, you know, it's probably

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Speaker 1: easier to find a second basement that is playable than

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Speaker 1: an outfielder for whatever reason in this market. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting. I mean it also worked out

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Speaker 1: that it seems like al T is okay with it,

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Speaker 1: that he's not like upset. I don't know, maybe we

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Speaker 1: get a Dana Brown soon call next off season and

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Speaker 1: find out Altuve hates him now because made him play

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Speaker 1: left field. Maybe you should ask that in the next one.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, it's it's really interesting. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, look, I'm I follow the Astros pretty closely.

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Speaker 1: I'm not super excited about any of the outfield prospects.

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Speaker 1: I assume the Astros aren't either, and so they're they're

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Speaker 1: not stupid. They understand they're trying to win right now

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Speaker 1: and they don't have anybody in the system that they

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Speaker 1: of a winning baseball team.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to give everything away in either Keith's

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Speaker 2: rankings or Baseball America's rankings because they're both behind the

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Speaker 2: paywall and I would much rather not. I don't want

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Speaker 2: you know, I would encourage people to pay to read it.

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Speaker 2: But something unanimous within both. The Ashers only have one

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Speaker 2: top one hundred prospect, and it's Cam Smith, who Dana

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Speaker 2: who they had to acquire this winter. Dana Brown's already

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Speaker 2: said that they're gonna try him in the corner outfields

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Speaker 2: in spring training. His bat's gonna kind of demonstrate to them,

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Speaker 2: you know, where he needs to go. But Tyler, it's

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Speaker 2: not a again. Keith released his organizational rankings today and

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Speaker 2: the Ashers are twenty ninth to thirty as far as

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Speaker 2: farm systems go by his rankings, they've got to get

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Speaker 2: the farm better. And it's what they hired Dana Brown

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Speaker 2: in part to do. And this was never going to

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Speaker 2: happen overnight. They had to trade some guys in the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years to get Verlander back to get

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Speaker 2: Usa Kakuchi. But it is it is difficult to look

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Speaker 2: and say, Dana Brown's been on the job now for

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Speaker 2: this is coming up on year three and this farm system,

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Speaker 2: by a lot of outside projections, has not improved much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the other thing that you.

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Speaker 2: Forget is that.

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Speaker 1: Top one hundred prospects are not one hundred superstars. Those

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Speaker 1: are like, you know, past past the top ten. If

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Speaker 1: you get a guy that had that makes it a

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Speaker 1: free agency like that's a huge win, right. And so

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Speaker 1: like a top you know, the fiftieth ranc prospect in baseball,

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Speaker 1: if that guy produces ten war in a career, like

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Speaker 1: that's a win for those guys. The fact that the

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Speaker 1: Astros don't have anybody outside of Cam Smith is concerning

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Speaker 1: for roster building. It's not like I said, it's it's

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Speaker 1: not that you're building a core around anybody in your

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Speaker 1: your top one hundred prospects. These are just guys that

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Speaker 1: like can play major league baseball, right and so it's

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Speaker 1: it is definitely concerning to not have anybody outside of

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Speaker 1: Astro's legend Cam Smith in the top one hundred prospects.

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Speaker 2: And as a lot of fans will probably comment on

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Speaker 2: this the as they've had a bottom ranked farm system

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Speaker 2: for the last three or four years and they have

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Speaker 2: continued to win. They have succeeded with guys like Chas McCormick,

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Speaker 2: with guys like that that were drafted in later in

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Speaker 2: the later in the draft from small schools. You know,

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Speaker 2: you look at Ari Getty, you look at Brown, you

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Speaker 2: look at they have had success finding big leaguers, like

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Speaker 2: we've talked about some of their past drafts where you

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Speaker 2: look and they have drafted thirteen big leaguers in a

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Speaker 2: draft before, which is good that on its face, if

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Speaker 2: you draft thirteen big leaguers in a draft, that's good.

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Speaker 2: What they have failed to do and as we've talked about,

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Speaker 2: their first and second round picks when they have had them,

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Speaker 2: have not hit. They have not gotten the top end

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Speaker 2: talent that is the sort that they have not gotten.

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Speaker 2: The Kyle Tuckers, they have not gotten the Alex Bregman's.

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Speaker 2: They have not gotten you know, I mean Force Whitley

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Speaker 2: has a clear path to make this team. But like Force,

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Speaker 2: Whitley was once the best pitching prospect in baseball and

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Speaker 2: it just hasn't hanned out that way for him. He

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Speaker 2: can still create some value for himself, but it hasn't

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Speaker 2: panned out the way it needed to for a first

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Speaker 2: round pick to hit like that. So they have got

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Speaker 2: to find a way to while also getting the Chas

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Speaker 2: mccormicks and the Jake myerses and those guys of the world,

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Speaker 2: the big leaguers that can help you. They've got to

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Speaker 2: find the top end contributors as well, because, as I

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Speaker 2: think we've seen, and as one of the reasons jose

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Speaker 2: Al Tuvey is moving to left field, you can't build

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Speaker 2: a roster around a group of Chas McCormick's and Jake

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Speaker 2: myers and I hate to keep using both of their names,

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Speaker 2: but they're the ones that just kind of personify what

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Speaker 2: they have been good at. They've been good at finding

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Speaker 2: small school guys in the middle of the draft, signing

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Speaker 2: them for no money, and then using their player development

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Speaker 2: machine and getting them to be serviceable big leaguers, but

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Speaker 2: they need some guys to take a step more than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to kind of paint a picture, I

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Speaker 1: just I brought up the twenty twelve Top one hundred prospects.

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Speaker 1: So it starts with a couple of guys you may

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Speaker 1: have heard of, Bryce Harper and Mike Trout number one

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Speaker 1: on the list, Chandler famously.

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Speaker 2: Do you know is it Byron Buxton?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: It is. Matt Moore was ranked above Harper and Trout.

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Speaker 1: Is that the top Garrett Cole comes in at number eleven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: players scroll down, you know, just a little bit. You've

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Speaker 1: got Dylan Betansas, you got John Singleton at forty four,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Deerizzi at forty seven, You've got Jeens Segura at

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Speaker 1: fifty five, Jake Marisnik at fifty eight, Jared Cozart at

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Speaker 1: sixty one. So just give you an like Brad Peacock

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Speaker 1: number seventy five, and again, you know, some people hit

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Speaker 1: further down, like George Springer was eighty fourth on that list,

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Speaker 1: right ahead of Matt do Mingez. But the point is

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Speaker 1: is that guys on the top one hundred don't have

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Speaker 1: to be superstars to be top one hundred prospects. They

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Speaker 1: are just serviceable, but big leaguers, right, And yeah, it

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Speaker 1: does not bode well for the twenty thirty Astros that

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Speaker 1: they don't have anybody. I don't think it hurts them

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Speaker 1: this year, but it definitely makes drafting a whole lot

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Speaker 1: more important because you can't miss it more. In the

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Speaker 1: top couple of rounds, you just don't have anybody in

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Speaker 1: the system that you can rely on. So you know,

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Speaker 1: this year's draft is going to be really big. Camp

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Speaker 1: Smith panting out is going to be really really big.

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Speaker 1: If he's not a you know, a six seven year

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Speaker 1: starter for the Astros, they're they're in a lot of

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Speaker 1: trouble in a few years.

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Speaker 2: And there's no rule stating that current prospects in the

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Speaker 2: system can't get better. They need Bryce Matthews to take

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Speaker 2: a big leap this year, and we have.

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Speaker 1: Good they haven't made that a rule.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that they need Bryce Matthews to take a

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Speaker 2: leap this year. They need Jacob Melton to take a

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Speaker 2: leap this year to maybe where Jacob Melton is forcing

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Speaker 2: their hand in May or June to where it's like,

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Speaker 2: all right, we don't have to play all two v

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Speaker 2: every day in the outfield. We can bring Melton up,

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Speaker 2: you know, see how Chas and Jake are doing, and

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Speaker 2: go from there. But like they need some of these

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Speaker 2: guys to just to develop and take that next step.

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Speaker 2: And that will go a long way too, because the

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Speaker 2: drafts and inexact science, I mean, you can I mean,

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Speaker 2: we just talked about Force Whitley the Ash. This is

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Speaker 2: the same franchise that whift on one one on the

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Speaker 2: first overall pick two years in a row and still

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Speaker 2: somehow recover. But the drafts and in exact science, the

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Speaker 2: astros for the immediacy of it, they need some guys

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Speaker 2: in the system to take the leap. And I think

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Speaker 2: Bryce Matthews, Jacob Melton, Miguel yoa foremost among them as

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Speaker 2: guys that we'll be looking at in spring training as

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Speaker 2: you know, non roster guys that I think that the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff's can have their eyes on. And I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying any of those guys are gonna make the big

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Speaker 2: or make opening day roster or anything, but they're gonna

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Speaker 2: need those guys to contribute this year. And with the

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Speaker 2: way this roster is constructed, they're gonna need some of

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Speaker 2: these guys to take a leap and be ready to contribute,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see if they'll be able to do it.

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Speaker 2: We'll be there watching it all. We appreciate again. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate the outpouring and support and the and the constant

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Speaker 2: subscribe subscriptions, rates and reviews, and the and the kind

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Speaker 2: comments you guys have had. You're the reason Josh Reddick

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it again. We'll be back. Whenever Alex Bregman

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Speaker 2: signs whoever he signs with, we will do an emergency podcast.

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Speaker 2: But if that doesn't happen soon, we will see you

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