1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Well, tell us what happened to you? Tell 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: us about this car accident? Oh gosh, okay, So December fourteenth, 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, I had just recently graduated from college 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: in South Carolina, and I was living in Charleston. Because 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: back back in those days, if you were still dating 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: the fella that you went to college with, you know, 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: your mom was picking out china patterns in crystal. Yeah, goblet, 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: getting ready to get you married. That's right, that's right, 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: good old Southern style. And so my my intended was 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: from Charleston, South Carolina, and so that's where we had 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: kind of migrated post graduation, and I was working for 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: a sign company and it was it was a wonderful 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: thing because with my big fat college degrees, I was 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: mopping floors in this sign company because it was the 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: only work I could get. And it was truthfully the 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: best thing that ever happened to me because the people 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Frank Entresa a Coin who owned it and mentored me there, 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: prepared me for life in a way that I couldn't expect. 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: And I was on my way to our Christmas party 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: and it was a hot day, and I was wearing 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: bright red Bermuda shorts and a Santa Claus T shirt. 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: And I was less than two miles away from my 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 1: apartment and I came upon a set of traffic lights 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: on a major highway, Highway seventeen, and I sat at 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: the red light until it was my turn to go, 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: And when my light turned green, I was going across 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: the intersection. And when I got to the last lane 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: of traffic before turning left towards town, I looked and 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: there was a car coming at me. And they estimated 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: about seventy five miles an hour broadsided you right right, 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: right on the driver's side, or pass on the driver's side. Oh, jee, Yeah, 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: we're lucky. We're lucky you're here. But you weren't for 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: a while. Well I wasn't for wow. Yeah, this is 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: where it gets interesting, because, see, George, I'm a preacher's 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: daughter from the Bible belt of the South, and so 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: what proceeded to happen from that moment on literally rewrote 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: my my entire understanding of how we live as human beings. 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Because everything I had been taught to believe about death 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: and what happens when we die just blew up in 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: my face. It didn't happen that way. I was very 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: much so in control time literally stood still. All of 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, I see that car barreling towards me, and 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: then it stopped. And I'm creeping through those next moments 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: and completely consciously aware of what's happening, and I was like, oh, 46 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: it's time to die. And I was suddenly suddenly overtaken 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: with this awareness that I had done this so many 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: times before. And you know, obviously I didn't learn that 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: in Sunday school. And it was just so comfortable, and 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, well, I can choose this time 51 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: to stay in the body and feel that impact and man, 52 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: that's going to hurt because he's going fast, or I 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: can take off and watch the accident. So on this 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: go I took Option B, and next thing you know, 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I am accompanied by this very bizarre frequency of a 56 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: very low drone that would I would liken it too. 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: If you've ever heard of bagpipes when it's getting ready, 58 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: you know, when they're filling the pipe the bag with air, 59 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: there's this low kind of war war war, and that's 60 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: the sound that was accompanying my spirit as I lifted 61 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: up out of the body. So I am now looking 62 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: back down. Everything speeds up and bam, I just witnessed 63 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: my own death. Oh my gosh. The car was mangled, 64 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: no doubt. Oh gosh, yeah, yeah it was. It was 65 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: t bone, so I was. It was bent in half. 66 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: And what was so fascinating watching it is, you know, 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: my head goes through the driver's side window and my 68 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: neck broke and glass shatters everywhere, and I'm watching my body. 69 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: It was like a little puppet and the seat folded 70 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: up under my body and I'm little strapped, kind of 71 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: hanging there with the belt and it's spinning through the 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: intersection and this is whereas one what's that? No airbags? 73 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Oh no, no airbags. No, that was ninety one, That's 74 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: what I thought. Yeah, little a little Toyota Corolla. UM. 75 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: And as I watched it kind of just been like 76 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: a ten can. Um. I'm looking down at that and 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: leaving the body at that point. The best way I 78 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: can describe it to you is if you've been outside 79 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: and it's really really hot. Let's say you were working 80 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: outside on the lawn, you were mowing or gardening, and 81 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: you're hot and sticky, and you come inside and you 82 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: peel off those hot, sticky, gross clothes and you throw 83 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: them into the washing machine, and then you go have 84 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: the best shower ever. That's if you're If you're in 85 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: that shower, the last thing you're thinking of is the 86 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: close in the washing machine. And that's the best way 87 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: I can describe to you what it's like to lead 88 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: the body. How quickly did you leave the dying body? 89 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Almost instantly? Oh? It was instant, yeah, and but enough 90 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: so that I was able to notice what was happening 91 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: around me. Said that sound was very important because you know, 92 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: many years of studying this, writing about it, lecturing about it, 93 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: you begin to realize as that frequency played such a part, 94 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: because that's what's keeping the essence of me, the real 95 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: who I am, as the occupant of that body, keeping 96 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: me tethered to the body into the earth plane. Was 97 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: that sound when you were in this experience? Did you 98 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: see them take your body in an ambulance to a hospital? 99 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: How close to I was gone? I was gone before 100 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: that happened. So I watched. What I got to see 101 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: was the car spinning around. So here's what's work gets 102 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: very interesting, is I'm not bang dead, and then watching 103 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: what's happening, I lifted out of the body before technically 104 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: I was dead, even because I was watching my car 105 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: get hit. I watched myself spin through the intersection. I 106 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: watched the people gather and I saw, you know, the guy, 107 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: the first guy who arrived in uniform, who reached in 108 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: through the passenger side windows. All the windows had blown out, 109 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: and he reached in to turn the engine off, and 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: I watched him do that, and then there was another pitch, 111 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: another sound that Now this sounded more like a symphony 112 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: it rather than just that kind of low drone. It 113 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: turned into like an orchestra. I call it the music 114 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: of the Spears. It's the most beautiful sounds you can 115 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: ever imagine. And I was surrounded by that. It's like 116 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: they were part of me. And that was when I'm 117 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: no longer looking at the scene of the accident, and 118 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm suddenly somewhere else. And that's I think, for some 119 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: people where the tunnel of light thing happens. But for me, 120 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: I was literally watching the accident and then boom, I'm 121 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: in the next space wall. When you were in that area, 122 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: did you realize you were dead? Yes? Okay, so this 123 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: is this is kind of interesting. I've had a very 124 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: unusual life, you know, I've always had some unusual abilities 125 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: growing up. But of course it was all enhanced a 126 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: thousandfold after the accident. But for someone who would have 127 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: been kind of keenly aware that something exists beyond us, 128 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 1: there's always that human part of us that goes, gosh, 129 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: what if we just cease to exist? You know, what 130 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: if that's it? You know, your your lights out, nobody's home, 131 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: Elvis has left the building, that's it. And it was 132 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: so not like that. It's like you're suddenly a lot smarter. 133 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: It's like this veil is lifted off the eyes. You're 134 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, oh gosh, that's right. That's how this works. 135 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: I forgot and you are aware of who you were. 136 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: You are aware, aware of the life you've led, but 137 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: suddenly you're aware that it's so much bigger than what 138 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: you had had realized that it was on earth. When 139 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: did you come back into your body? After After a 140 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: few really important things happened when I was kind of 141 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: basking in that space, Eventually the atmosphere in front of 142 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: me began to take shape, and these two beings came 143 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: forward and it's interesting, you know, being a preacher's daughter, 144 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: this is where you'd expect the angels to arriveal these 145 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: angels didn't have wings. They were the most incredibly benevolent, 146 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: loving beings and they were just there and it took 147 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: me a little while. It took a little while, as 148 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: we say here in Ireland for the penny to drop, 149 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: and they just waited patiently, and then all of a 150 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: sudden I was like, oh my gosh, these are my guardians. 151 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: We all have guardians. So at your lowest point, when 152 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: you know, if you feel like you're alone, you never 153 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: ever ever alone, there are those voices that whisper in 154 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: your ear. That's that feeling of comfort that you get. 155 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: There always there in support. And so this was just 156 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: so incredible to me because they had form, but they 157 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: were formless at the same time. They were you know, 158 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: they certainly weren't angelic like you would you think, you know, 159 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: of the typical religious connotations like you know, angels and 160 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: white robes and wings. It wasn't like that. But the 161 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: love and the feeling of support that was there was incredible. 162 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: And they turned up to sit with me through the 163 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: life review and so yes, there is the cliche life review. 164 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: But it's very different than what you might imagine because 165 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a space and it was like being 166 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: in a three dimensional or three hundred and sixty degree 167 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: Imax cinema. You're in the center and your life is 168 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: playing out around you. And this is the real This 169 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: is the real mic drop moment. For me, this was 170 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: where my mind was officially blown. You know, you've you've 171 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of come through this, You've shed the body, You've accepted. Yeah, 172 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: I forgot, that's right. I was doing that. That wasn't 173 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: even real. That was that was just temporary. This is 174 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: who I really am. But you're watching what you've just done. 175 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: And so what's so interesting is that I'm watching myself 176 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: at the beach getting lost at five years old. I'm 177 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: watching myself winning Living History day at junior high school 178 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: at the age of twelve. I'm watching myself in a 179 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: rape at the age of seventeen. I'm watching myself get 180 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: my first driver, you know, take my first driving test. 181 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: All these things are happening simultaneously. So your concept and 182 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: understanding of time come back to you in that moment 183 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: where you realize that time isn't linear and that's done 184 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: for our comfort. Time is something that's actually happening, like 185 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: a merry go round. Well in terms of people time, 186 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: which doesn't exist in that era. How long do you 187 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: think you were in this state? I would say probably, well, 188 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: it was as long as it took for the ambulance 189 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: to arrive, but it's probably fifteen minutes or saying okay. 190 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: And what was interesting is when I was in the hospital, 191 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: you know I was. It was so interesting when they 192 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: put me in the ambulance and I'm like, I'm coming 193 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: in and out of consciousness, and I remember the lady 194 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: stroking my hair and she's like, don't worry, sugar, We're 195 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: not going to let you die. And I'm I'm screaming, 196 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: I've already been dead. I've already been exactly, and which 197 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: was far better than where you were, because the intense 198 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: pain must have been incredible. It was you know, you 199 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: come back into that body. But what was so interesting 200 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,119 Speaker 1: was there was after doing that life review and realizing 201 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: that I've made it twenty one years and that it 202 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: was of my own doing. Because you're in that space 203 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: and you're looking around, going, hey, isn't this where somebody's 204 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be judging my performance. Isn't this where you 205 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: know that someone's making the final decision do I go 206 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: up or down? And like everything that I had been 207 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: brought up to believe just simply wasn't happening. It was 208 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: so much bigger and more loving and more expansive. And 209 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, what's happening here? And I realized, wait 210 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: a minute, I want to go back. Nobody made me 211 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: go back. I me who I really am? You did 212 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: it to yourself, come back? And I did it to myself. 213 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: And the one who was sitting and critiquing those performances 214 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: of me as five and twelve and seventeen and twenty one, 215 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: it was me. I was judging my own performance. How 216 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: long Mary Helen were you laid up in the hospital, 217 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: That's the funny part. Not long. It was a Saturday, 218 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: and I slipped through the cracks for very very good reasons, 219 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: as as we've come to find out later, they missed 220 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: fractures in my neck. They you know, there was there 221 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: were all sorts of things that began to unfold. As 222 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: the next step. I ended up going to a chiropractor. 223 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: They they let you out of the hospital that fast. 224 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: They did yes, oh, and it was you know, talk 225 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: about the emotional ramifications of that, because it is, oh gosh, 226 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: I was. It took me a long time to learn 227 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: how to like walk properly again. My pelvis was mangled. 228 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: I was told I'd never have kids. I have two, 229 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I lost my hearing in my 230 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: left ear. I detached my retina in my right eye. 231 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: So I was sent further afield to do you know, 232 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: bits and pieces. These things weren't done in the hospital once. 233 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't dead according to dead terms here. You know, 234 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: I was there for a long enough for them to 235 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: send me on to start getting patched up in other places. 236 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: What happened to the person rammed into you? He was 237 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: an eighty one year old gentleman. And it was so 238 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: interesting because I look at him with such reverence because 239 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: it's like he was that that soul that was meant 240 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: to cross my path for five minutes. Did he die? 241 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: Uh No, he didn't die. His car he was driving 242 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: at tank. So think about it. In nineteen ninety one, 243 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: one of those like giant you know, like a Giant 244 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: Cat or a Chrysler, you know, one of these huge 245 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: like my dad would have called that kind of car, 246 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: a land yacht, yeah, you know those those kind of cars, 247 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: and his you know, he got crumpled on the front end. 248 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: My little Toyota Corolla was just toast, it was, you know, 249 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: And and he had floored it to go through a 250 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: red light. So that's why they found out. He was 251 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: going so fast he was trying to catch the red light, 252 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: but he didn't see me as I was coming across. 253 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: So I'll tell you a funny story later about me 254 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: in an intersection, which was could have been a disaster too. 255 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: So you're you're back in your body, and I'm assuming 256 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: from you that what could have been months in the 257 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: hospital was probably just a few days. Yes, So here's 258 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: an interesting thing that we kind of skipped over in 259 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: the beginning. From the time I was very young, I 260 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: alluded to the fact that I've had some unusual things happen. Yeah, 261 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: when I was when my mother was actually pregnant with me, 262 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: he got the German measles in her first trimester, and 263 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: so they were called in. Remember this would have been 264 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: I was born in sixty nine, so this would have 265 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: been sixty eight. They were called in and basically my 266 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: parents were given the bad news this baby's not going 267 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: to be okay. Period. You know, my mom was quite 268 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: ill with the German measles that did not farewell back 269 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: in the day, and so my parents were sent home 270 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: to basically deal with this news. Well, this is where 271 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: my father, you know, the minister, gets this visit. And 272 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: what's so fascinating is that these two beings appear to 273 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: my father and he could not, for as much as 274 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: he wanted to call them angels, he called them celestial 275 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: beings like my own guides. They had no wings, they 276 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: didn't look like anything he'd read about it. They come 277 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: to him in a dream or in a physical they 278 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: appeared like the spoke of this. This melted his brain 279 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: more than anything ever I saw a man experience, because 280 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: it just didn't fit in the box, and yet it 281 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: happened to him. And so the title of my first 282 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: book is actually called Promise. It was called Promised. It 283 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: was Simon and Schuster made it promised by Heaven. Promised 284 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: is because when those beings came to my father and 285 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: my parents had just gotten this very bad news, they said, 286 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: your daughter is going to be fine, and she's going 287 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: to come in with some unusual abilities, and she's going 288 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: to be here working in service. And so from that 289 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: moment forward, my dad was like, I'll give it up. 290 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm okay, that's all right, that's all I need. Listen 291 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one 292 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: am Eastern, and go to Coast to Coast am dot 293 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: com for more