1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I don't for stephone 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: never told your production of I Heart Radio and welcome 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: to another Activist around the World. And Annie, you and 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: I were going back and forth about the name still 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: because you know, I still can't settle on what I 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: want to call this segment. Maybe we should just call 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: it Feminists around the World, because it's not necessarily like 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: they would title themselves activists, even though whatever they do 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: probably could be considered activism. So maybe we'll do a 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Feminist around the World so that doesn't tie us down 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: too hard. What do you think? I think it's hilarious 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: that we I was with you when you had this idea, 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, why did this not come earlier? I 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: don't know why. Everybody think about seems to make the 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: most sense. But yea, also if we started calling it 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: that that we just had the brainstorm two years after 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: the fact, this has been a long journey, apparently. And 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: it's February, and I hate that month because I can't 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: say the word, not because I hate the months necessarily, 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: but in this month, it is a Black History month. 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: And though we want to make sure that we are 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: always talking about the activism and advocacy from the black 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: community and of the black community all year round. We 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 1: definitely want to talk and celebrate about the change Bakers today. 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: So yes, we celebrate this month, but yes, we think 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: it should be all year long. So we've not pinned 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: down to being like the shortest of the month. You know, 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: it seems very racist, but we're gonna I'm just gonna 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: leave it there, I guess, just leave it there before 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: we start. Any did you ever do the design classes 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: or I think it was called industrial arts in my school, Uh, 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: like making the bridges out of the sticks, or trying 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: to design your own roller coaster. Oh yeah, we actually 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: usually did that in just science classes. I think in 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: fifth grade we did the roller coaster, which I loved 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: because I love roller coasters. Um, we did the designing 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: bridges one and I have I believe I've told the 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: story before, but I have a lot of trauma around 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: it and glue and I will never, never, not be 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: able to think of glue with this negative sense because 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 1: of that that experience. We also did the one where 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: you had to design um out of straws something to 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: drop an egg off of a roof and see if 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: you could protect the egg. Um, we had to make 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: cars and see how far they could go, which I 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: also that fell apart of me as well. It was 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: a good idea. The follow through wasn't there? Those are? 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: Those are the big ones that are coming to mind? Yeah, 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: So that was a whole elective for our high school 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: and I took it and all those things sound very familiar. 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: We had the bridge that we had to test out. 52 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: I think one did pretty well. The roller coaster of 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: mine was not. I had like these big ideas did 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: not pay out. Um, we did like an airplane thing 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: as well, and my brilliant idea was to want it 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: into a piece of paper and throw it and not 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: want They accepted it. Hey, it's pretty good, you know. 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: I had to do what I had to do well. 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: Today we're actually talking about Oscar winner designer and architect 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: Hannah Bakler. And though it's usually Eve's who brings us 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: the feminist first, we are doing one ourselves because, as 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: you all know, we love to give flowers to those 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: who are still around to receive them, and we're going 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: to do so. Yes, And Bickler was a first for 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: several categories. Um, the first African American to be nominated 66 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: for the Academy Award for a Production Design, the first 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: African American to win that award, and the first woman 68 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: and person of color to work as a production designer 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: on a Marvel Superhero film. Um b Cler, you might 70 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: say was born for this. Her parents were an architect 71 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: and an interior designer, and she was no stranger to 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: the design and art world um as. She attended the 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: University of Since Natty, studying and graduating for fashion design, 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: and then she went on to a Right state university 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: to study film and In a twenty sixteen interview with 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: Filmmaker magazine, when she was asked about her love for 77 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: the movies, Biegler said, I grew up in Centerville, Ohio. 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: All I did was watch movies. I would go inside 79 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: of the TV and that was it. I wouldn't even 80 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: hear anybody talking to me. My dad was an architect 81 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: and he built the house we grew up in. My 82 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: mom was an interior designer and my aunt was an artist. 83 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: So I was always around creative forces and yeah, and 84 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: her parents influences has always stayed with her. In another interview, 85 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: she talked about her father's words about creating. I'd say 86 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: to him, Dad, I want you to design the house 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: that I'll live in when I'm older. He would always 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: tell me, I can't design that until I understand where 89 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: it is, until I understand the land is going to 90 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: sit on, And being young, I was like, you really 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: won't design me a house. But as I've gotten older, 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: I've come to understand what he meant. You can't see 93 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: anything until you understand where it lives, and it something 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: that has stayed with her in her very successful career. 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: In Biekler did her first collaboration with director Ryan Coogler 96 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: on fruit Vale Station, which led to her continued work 97 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: with Coogler for Creed and both of the Black Panther films. 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: Her inspiration for different films was unique for every movie. 99 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: Her work in design for Miles Ahead, a drama based 100 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: on Miles Davis, was all set with no stage shots 101 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: and inspired by a few silent film shots. And it's 102 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: in size like that that has really made her a 103 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: standout in her field right, but being one of the 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: few black women in the field has brought on some obstacles. 105 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: In her recent interview with Architectural Digest, she says the 106 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: biggest obstacle was proving that I was capable of handling 107 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: any sized department and holding the vision of the film, 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: simultaneously making sure that both sides management and creative were 109 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: at at all times, all while trying to make a 110 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: name for myself outside of New Orleans. Also being a 111 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: black woman in a space where there were no black 112 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: people and very few women was a huge challenge. When 113 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: the stakes are high, the stress is immeasurable, and you 114 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: just pushed through the naysayers and concentrate on the people 115 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: who are creatively, like minded and supportive, who allow you 116 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: to be yourself with no caveats and to be as 117 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: creative as your imagination will allow. And yeah, she's doing 118 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: exactly that. In another interview from fifteen, she goes asked 119 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: about her process and how she even begins and and 120 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: she said, the first step in any of it for 121 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: me is sitting down with the script and connecting. I've 122 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: got to be able to connect to the script, and 123 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: then you know the filmmakers as well. With that, I 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: will pretty much do a deck or a look book, 125 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: and depending on the film and how big the presentation is, 126 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: obviously that sort of is like what fell out of 127 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: my head as I read the script and then notes 128 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: that that I took and this is what I saw. 129 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: My first reaction, my first initial reaction to that. Her 130 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: hard work and imagination have been seen in her productions, 131 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: including in the recent film Black Panther, Wi Condor Forever. 132 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: In for her process in creating the beautiful lands of 133 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: both Waconda and Toto Khan, she talks about the importance 134 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: of using not only the history of the lands, but 135 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: also the folklore and the legend where she applied for 136 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: the underwater world based on the underworld realms of the 137 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: Aztec Codices, and all of her work has been noticed. 138 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Alongside her twenty nineteen Academy Award for Black Panthers, she 139 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: has received the Hollywood Film Awards, Saturn Awards, Critics Choice Awards, 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: a d G Award for her work in the production 141 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: design for Beyonce's Lemonade, and many more. Yeah um And 142 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: In that same Architectural Digest interview, Bleaker was asked what 143 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: advice she would give to the bipod community who are 144 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: interested in design, and she says, research, research, research. If 145 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: there's something you want to do in design, no matter 146 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: what it is, use your drive and resourcefulness to get there, 147 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: put yourself out there, write an email or a letter 148 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: to someone you admire in the field, talk to people, 149 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: go to events, dream big, take risks, be yourself. Don't 150 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: put a time limit on your dreams. I didn't get 151 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: fruit fille station until I was forty two years old, 152 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: and I didn't win an oscar until I was forty 153 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: nine years old. I love that. Yeah, I love that too. 154 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: That's such a great quote. Also love how she's like, 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: I didn't win an oscar times forty nine. It's not 156 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: that old, but I love it like anybody good. But yes, amazing, 157 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: amazing work. Uh And I've enjoyed it and I can't 158 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: wait to see what else she does, very very exciting. 159 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: So as always, I'm sure we'll have an update in 160 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: the future about what she's up to you. 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