1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Happy Pride month. Everybody. June feels like it's the month 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: for all the celebration Fride. June teenth is this month. Yes, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: it's black music month. It just feels like June is 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: just full of joy, and it feels like it's really summer. 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: That's when summer officially starts. Yes, June's that girl. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: It really is the perfect time for celebration, and we're 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: continuing the celebration right here on Dope Labs, celebrating all 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: of our LGBTQ plus friends and family in stem. Welcome 9 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: to Dope Labs, a weekly podcast that mixes hardcore science, 10 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: pop culture, and a healthy do friendship. 11 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: In the United States and many places around the world, 12 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: June is when we celebrate Pride Month. In the lgbtqia 13 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: plus community. 14 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: So lgbtqia plus encompasses a lot of different identities in 15 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: the queer community. It stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, 16 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: or ally depending on who you ask. Identity is complicated 17 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: and these words don't mean the same thing to every person. 18 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: The meaning of some of these words have changed over time. 19 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 2: Queer in the beginning was used to be a slur 20 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: but has been reclaimed today as a way for many 21 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: people to celebrate their sexuality, and we are so excited 22 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: to celebrate Pride Month on the show. Yes, and for 23 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: this lab, we wanted to hear perspectives from queer voices 24 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: in science, so. 25 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: We've reached out and y'all gave us some awesome clips 26 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: on what you're doing. 27 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: And if you've been following Dope Blast for a while, 28 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: you might recognize this type of lab. We took a 29 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: similar approach and we did the Black Scientist since them 30 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: Black History Month back in twenty twenty. 31 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Yes, visibility in any field, including stem is crucial, and 32 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: this is also a time for us to celebrate, you 33 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: know how far queer rights have come, especially in the 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: face of efforts to roll those rights back, and for 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: us to take a critical look at what we still 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: have left to do. This episode, we're going to hear 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: from some queer scientists about their research, passion projects, and 38 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: why they love science. 39 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: We only have thirty minutes and so we couldn't get 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: to everybody, but we were so happy to hear from 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: so many of you about your work. 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: But before we hear from all these brilliant scientists, let's 43 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: rewind a little bit to get some context around Pride 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: and why career representation in STEM is so important. 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: While there have always been efforts for gay rights, Pride 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: Month was sparked by the Stonewall Riots also known as 47 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: the Stonewall Uprisings, and this was in June of nineteen 48 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: sixty nine when police raided the Stonewall Inn. The Stonewall 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: Inn was a popular gay bar in Greenwich Village in 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: New York and at the time, cops will routinely arrest 51 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: queer people for just being outside in public living their lives. 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Very similar to what we saw with Black Lives Matter. 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: We saw a space that was considered safe for gay 54 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: and queer people in New York, right, this was their bar, 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: and what would have been a minor infraction a liquor 56 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: license charge, becomes people getting abused, beat up, harassed. So 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: we see increased police violence to something that is a 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: nonviolent offense, which is not a new tactic for the police, right, 59 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: and this isn't the first time that the queer community 60 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: stood up against that type of police violence, but it 61 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: was kind of considered the hairpin drop herd around the world, 62 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: and that everybody kind of getting involved, and the huge 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: response to this one event is what led to the 64 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: creation of Pride Month, which we continue to celebrate now. 65 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: All right, So now that we have a little bit 66 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: of history, let's get into the recitation. All right, So 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: what do we know? Well, we know that there's been 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: a lot of progress in the year since Stonewall, but 69 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: don't get it twisted. There's a long way to go, 70 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: and there's particularly a long way to go in STEM too, 71 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: And we know that STEM as a whole is advanced 72 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: by having diversity of thought, diversity of experience, all of 73 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: these unique characteristics of each person help advance science. The 74 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: things we've seen pop up in our labs with doctors 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: Barbara Hofer and Gail Sinatra, our HIV episode with doctor 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Christine Daniels, and our episode about racism and Science with 77 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: doctor Angelo sani is that science is not done in 78 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: a vacuum, right, and people bring their whole selves to science, 79 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: and so the variety of experience also informs what gets 80 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: pursued in the sciences, what's deemed as worthy of research, 81 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: in which communities we prioritize. To make our technology and 82 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: scientific advances work on behalf. 83 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: Of right and to create these environments where you can 84 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: have that type of robust science. You have to have 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: people from all different types of backgrounds and representation matters. 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: If you can see it, you can be it. So 87 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: that's what we hope to do today, highlighting queer folks 88 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: in STEM. So what do we want to know? 89 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Well, we want to hear from our LGBTQ plus community 90 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: in STEM, right, we want to know what they're working on. 91 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Yes, and I would love to hear their experiences, their 92 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: personal experiences about what it's like being in STEM. You 93 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: and I have a unique perspective as black women in 94 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: STEM and our experiences, but it's always good to know 95 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: where other people feel like there are pitfalls that we 96 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: might not be aware of. 97 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's jump into the dissections. 98 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: We put a call out to hear from our queer 99 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: friends that are in STEM to find out more about 100 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: the things that you all are loving, the work that 101 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: you're doing, where you are in your career, and the 102 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: things that are important to you. And we got so 103 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: many responses and made it so happy. 104 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Our first caller is. 105 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: An astronomer who studies tides on stars. We love talking 106 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: about space because there's so much that's always being learned 107 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: every single day. Space in the ocean. I mean, give 108 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: me a break, there's no limit. 109 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: Ktt and zakiya. I'm currently standing in the sand in 110 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: ancestral wee Be Territory on the central California coast under 111 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: the moonlight. My name is Rewa, I use she her pronouns, 112 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: and this fall I will be starting graduate school for astronomy. 113 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 4: Anyone who's been to the ocean knows about tides, right. 114 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: The water level rises and falls because the Moon's gravity 115 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 4: pulls on the Earth's ocean, and turns out, tides can 116 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 4: happen on stars too, especially if that star veers super 117 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: close to a very very dense object like a super 118 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: massive black hole. So that's what I study. I use 119 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: the lux supercomputer at UC Santa Cruz to run simulations 120 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: of tightly disrupted stars, trying to find any telltale fingerprints 121 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: so that we know how to go look for them 122 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: in the wild. I love the feeling of wonder as 123 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: I explore phenomena so much vaster than my imagination can hold. 124 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: And I love the people I work with, people who 125 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: are invested in making stem spaces that are decolonial, feminist, 126 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: anti racist, that we can all participate in as our 127 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: full selves. 128 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Ooh, you know, when I start thinking about space, it 129 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: makes me feel like we're so small ificant. Yes, and 130 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: Raya is talking about tidal disruptions in space. 131 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 132 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: So, just like how the Moon interacts with the Earth 133 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: and how it pulls its hides in the ocean, that's 134 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: exactly what Raywa is saying is happening with stars. As 135 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: stars get close to a dense object like a black hole, 136 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: they also feel that tidle pull. And you know, that's 137 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: kind of like what happens in the beginning part. But 138 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: if stars get too close to that dense object, too 139 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: close to that black hole, then you have a catastrophic event. 140 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: Yes, that is so cool. I didn't even think about 141 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: tides happening on things other than planets, honestly, but it 142 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: makes sense. 143 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: It does make sense that all of these things should 144 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: have tides. It's a lot going on in space. 145 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: Yes, And you know, anytime I can tie something back 146 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: to some biology, I'm game for it. Did you hear 147 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: her say star fingerprinting? 148 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: I did. I did. 149 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: And so just like our fingerprints are supposed to be, 150 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, unique to us and help you identify individuals, 151 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: Star fingerprinting is a term for identifying and distinguishing between 152 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: the millions of stars in the sky. So astronomers like 153 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: ray Well identify stars color to find out the gas 154 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: is made of and it's temperature, so its own sort 155 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: of finger printing. That's really cool, kind of cool. Yeah, 156 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, we love space, and we can call back 157 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: to the Starchlla episode where we talked about space and 158 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: just how small we all are when we consider the 159 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: grand scale of you know, just the Earth to the Moon, 160 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: but that's just our little planet and what's orbiting around it. 161 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Then we start thinking about orbiting around the Sun, and 162 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: that's just our little solar system, and solar system is 163 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: in the galaxy. Girl, it's too much. But we still 164 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: celebrate astronomers because they're able to take all that in. 165 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: And you know another type of scientists I really celebrate. 166 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: But I know it's not for me. What an entomologist. 167 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: Oh that's my friend's worst nightmare. Entomologists study insects. 168 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: It's no for me. 169 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: Dog Listen. 170 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: I have had to rescue my friend a number of 171 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: times from a variety of insects, and I'll be there 172 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 2: every time. But this is a real fear. Do you 173 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 2: think you ever could have been an entomologist or what if, 174 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,359 Speaker 2: like your research like veered that direction a little. 175 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: Bit couldn't have. I don't even like when people call 176 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: bacteria bugs. Oh just the worst, Yeah, because they're not 177 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: a but b I don't want to think about them 178 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: having little legs. You know, cilia and flagella. That's fine, 179 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: but little insect legs. No, no, no, So clearly entomology 180 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: is not for you. But our next caller, doctor Perry 181 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: Beasley Hall, is someone who loves bugs. 182 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 5: Hi. Everyone, my name's doctor Perry Beasley Hall, and I'm 183 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 5: a researcher at the South Australian Museum and the University 184 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 5: of Adelaide. Here in Australia, I use she, her or 185 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 5: they then pronouns. I'm a lesbian biologist and I'm passionate 186 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 5: about increasing the visibility of LGBTQ people in stem fields. 187 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 5: At the moment, I'm working on cataloging the biodiversity in 188 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 5: mini oases of the South Australian Desert also called mound springs. 189 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 5: But my background is in entomology, the study of insects 190 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 5: and evolutionary biology. Much of my work focuses on untangling 191 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 5: the insect tree of Life using DNA. I have a 192 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 5: particular interest in subterranean or underground insects because of the 193 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 5: weird adaptations they often have to face the challenges of 194 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 5: a complete dark environment, cut off from the world. I'm 195 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: passionate about the work I do because I love solving 196 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 5: evolutionary puzzles and figuring out which species go where when 197 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 5: it comes to an evolutionary trait. My job allows me 198 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: to turn people into defenders of insects and show them 199 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 5: some fascinating animals they've never seen before. 200 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: I Ritzekiah, has doctor Beasley Hall turned you into a 201 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: defender of insects. I understand the importance of insects, and 202 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: I defend them away from me, right like that is 203 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: where I am the strongest defender. 204 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: Then go buggy over there, over there, and you know, 205 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: but I do think the work that doctor Beasley Hall 206 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: is doing right now, you know, documenting biodiversity in the 207 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: South Australian desert, that type of work is incredibly important because, 208 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: whether I like it or not, insects are vital to 209 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: our world and many insect populations are going extinct at 210 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: alarming rates. 211 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: Right and we just had a lab all about that 212 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: conversation on biodiversity with doctor raywind Grant, we talked about 213 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: how important data collection is for conservation. 214 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and insects are a part of that. But you know, 215 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: what we realize is that there's a huge lack of 216 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: data on insects, and so we're losing them, but we 217 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: don't even know that we're losing them. What did Shannon 218 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Sharp say, we're losing recipes and so. And I recently 219 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: saw in somebody's yard where they had a sign that 220 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: said don't do those mosquito treatments because they affect other 221 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: flying bugs and other pollinators that are really important. And 222 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: a recent study from the UK show that they had 223 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: a sixty percent drop in flying bugs from two thousand 224 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: and four to twenty twenty two. 225 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. 226 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, that sounds good for me as a person outside, 227 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: but I know that's not good for our environment. We 228 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: were already under the biology umbrella, so let's stay under 229 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: there a little bit, but shift to neuroscience, studying the brain. 230 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Our next caller is Kayla Singleton, a neuroscientist who researches 231 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Minky's disease. 232 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 6: Hello, my name is doctor Kayla as Singleton. My pronouncer 233 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 6: she Her. I'm a black, Samoan and queer developmental neuroscientist 234 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 6: and I'm a postdoctoral fellow at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. 235 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 6: I'm from grace And Georgia, and my current research focuses 236 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 6: on understanding how the brain develops in normal and pathological 237 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 6: conditions by studying rare genetic diseases, specifically Minky's disease. My 238 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 6: current project is funded by the National Institute of Neurological 239 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 6: Disorder and Stroke and what it really tries to understand 240 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 6: is how copper affects brain development, but also how copper 241 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 6: effects mitochondrial function and metabolic function. Most of the research 242 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 6: that I do relies on convocal microscopy. It relies on 243 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 6: using Drosophla or fruitfly, as well as cell lines as 244 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 6: a model. And one of the reasons that I love 245 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 6: my research so much is because it has direct implications 246 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 6: to help the Minky's disease population. Another reason that I 247 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 6: love my work is because I get to mentor and 248 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 6: teach and train the next upcoming generation of scientists, and 249 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 6: I think that that's really wonderful. 250 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: Doctor Singleton's work has implications for people who have mincus 251 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: disease and that leads to the deterioration of the nervous system, 252 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: and that's directly related to copper in the body. 253 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: And the result of that is you'd have sparse or 254 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: kinky hair textures, difficulty gaining weight, weak muscle tone, sagging 255 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: facial features, seizures, developmental delay, and an intellectual disability. 256 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: And all of this is related to copper levels in 257 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: the body. You know, I think we've kind of touched 258 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: on some of these things in LA labs. So when 259 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: we talked about nutrition earlier back in January that lab 260 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: with doctor Lickenstein, and then more recently our episode with 261 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: doctor Buttner where we talked about metals and their importance 262 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: in different developmental stages. Here we're seeing that exact same thing. 263 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: This is such important work that will help a lot 264 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: lot of people that are struggling with this disease. 265 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely T T. Let's take a break and when we 266 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: get back we'll hear some more from queer scientists. 267 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: We're back and we're celebrating Pride Month in STEM and 268 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: listening to queer scientists share their research stories and experiences. 269 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Not only is June Pride month, but it's also Black 270 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: Music Month, and next week we're talking all about it 271 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: with Mark, Anthony Neil and Ninth Wonder. This lab is 272 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: going to be great and I can't wait for you 273 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: guys to listen. Let's get back to today's lab. 274 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: So far we've heard from an astronomer studying tides on stars, 275 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: and entomologists exploring biodiversity in the Australian desert, and a 276 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: neurobiologist who's working to address Minky's disease. 277 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: Our next caller is a biochemist who is studying an 278 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: unstoppable force. 279 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 7: Aging dope lapse podcast What's Good? So, I am doctor 280 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 7: Melanie mcrennolds, she her hers. I am originally from Louisville, Mississippi. 281 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 7: I'm a biochemist. I study the biochemistry of aging, right, 282 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 7: so the intersection of metabolic decline and really asking those 283 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 7: questions of how can we age healthier? How can we 284 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 7: protect the resiliency of my metabolism In particular, I'm an 285 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 7: NAD scientist. So nicotinamie editing NIE nucleotide. It's a key 286 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 7: reados regulator. It drives energy production, but it also controls 287 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 7: a lot of signaling processes. 288 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: So doctor McReynolds might not be working to create the 289 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Fountain of Youth, but her work is central to finding 290 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: ways for people to have a better quality of life 291 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: as they age. Her work is on NAD, which is 292 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: nicotinamide at need di nucleotide. It's a molecule that supports 293 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: cellular function across a couple of different categories. So think metabolism, 294 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: DNA damage repair, gene expression, stress responses. These are some 295 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: things we've talked about in earlier episodes, and this signaling 296 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: molecule she studies is involved in all of them. When 297 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: we age, our body produces less in AD and it 298 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: also uses more of it, so now we're getting into 299 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: supply and demand. Those declines can lead to a lot 300 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: of diseases associated with getting older, like cancer and cognitive decline. 301 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of hype over the years about 302 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: anti aging supplements, but it's scientists like doctor McReynolds who 303 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: are doing the work to tease apart these really complex 304 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: systems to understand how to help people as they age. 305 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: In the same vein of ensuring the quality of life 306 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: for folks, there are scientists that look at specific diseases 307 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: and do a ton of research on what factors may 308 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: be causing certain groups to have a lower quality of. 309 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: Life, and this is disparities. We've talked about disparities across 310 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: a couple of topics including sleep, housing, healthcare, you name it. 311 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: Our next caller is a med student who hopes to 312 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: help patients with HIV who are also experiencing another serious condition. 313 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: Hi. 314 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 8: There, my name is Derek Trim. I'm going to be 315 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 8: a first year medical student of coming out this summer 316 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 8: and I'm currently doing a research project on patients with 317 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 8: HIV and a depression commobidity and how different type of 318 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 8: interventions can hopefully have the house in the future. 319 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: The work that Derek is doing is so important, and 320 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: when you consider what we know, which is that nothing 321 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: happens really in isolation. So a comorbidity is the presence 322 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: of one or more conditions in addition to the primary 323 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: condition you're being treated for. So, in the case is 324 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: that Derek is studying or hoping to help out with, 325 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: the primary condition is HIV and the comorbidity they're interested 326 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: in is depression. 327 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're sick or dealing with an illness that 328 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: can create or exacerbate other things. And of course mental 329 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: health is just as important. As physical health. The work 330 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: that Derek is doing and will probably continue to do 331 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: after they achieve their medical degree is so important. If 332 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: we think back to what doctor Christine Daniels was telling 333 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: us from our HIV episodes, it is very important to 334 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 2: have resources available to folks that are living with HIV 335 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: in order to ensure that they are having a high 336 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: quality of life. 337 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: One of the things that we've talked about TT is 338 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: the experience that individuals have going through the STEM pipeline 339 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: of training and postdoc training and then being in their fields. 340 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: And we heard from scientists who both have felt confined 341 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: or like they can't be them full selves in their 342 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: field and folks who are studying people having those experiences. 343 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: So we gotta voice memo. I'm a civil engineer named 344 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: Albert who reflected on what it means to be queer 345 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: and working in engineering. 346 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 9: Hi, this is Albert, and I live in Austin. I 347 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 9: work in civil engineering slash construction management, so it kind 348 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 9: of science last math here in Austin. 349 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 10: And you know, I grew. 350 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 9: Up being a want to be a tear, but the 351 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 9: engineering world is as it is. It's very very anti 352 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 9: feminine energy, if that makes sense. I don't know that's 353 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 9: going to be like in other types of field, but 354 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 9: for me, that's how I feel. You have to have 355 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 9: this masculine approach and how you dress, how you talk, 356 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 9: how you pretty much carry yourself. 357 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 10: It's a side of me that I have to. 358 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 9: Show up at work looking very. 359 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 10: Masculine, because I do have a side of me that 360 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 10: I tend to show differently with my friends that are 361 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 10: in the LGBTQ plus community, but not that I'm. 362 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 9: Comfortable to show in my workplace for my colleagues and 363 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 9: the civil and construction work here in Austin. I've always 364 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 9: wondered how much of a mental toll that takes for me. 365 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 9: I know some friends that have come out in their workplace, 366 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 9: but to me, that's something that I have to work 367 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 9: on and I had to kind of guard my heart 368 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 9: on that. 369 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: That's such an important point that Albert made about the 370 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: mental toll of hiding a part of yourself and having 371 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: to think about what you feel comfortable or safe telling 372 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: people about, and then you have to kind of consider 373 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: what does it take to kind of box yourself in 374 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: for one part of a day then try to retrieve 375 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: that part of you for the rest of it. Exactly. 376 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: And there are people who never have to think about 377 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: these things. They move through their jobs, through life and 378 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: just are themselves. And there are folks that have to 379 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: constantly be policing themselves, like self policing and correcting and saying, oh, 380 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: let me not say this this way, let me not 381 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: dress this way, let me not talk in this certain way, 382 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: let me not talk about my experiences. Or if somebody says, 383 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: how is your weekend, Oh, I can't tell them what 384 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: I was doing because it is unique to my culture, 385 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: as unique to who I am as a person. And 386 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: you feel like, oh, they may treat me differently. All 387 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: of that psychology, all of those mental gymnastics that you 388 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: have to go through in order to just feel like 389 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: you are fitting in quote unquote and so that people 390 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: won't mistreat you is exhausting. 391 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, the stem fill has a lot of room to 392 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: grow so that everyone can show up as their full selves. 393 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: One of the people that we heard from works on 394 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: this very issue. Let's turn it over to doctor Barthelmy. 395 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 11: I'm doctor Raman Barthelmi, and I'm an assistant professor of 396 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 11: physics and Astronomy at the University of Utah. I am 397 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 11: a physics education researcher conducting studies on the lives, experiences, 398 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 11: and careertories of LGBT plus physicists with a strong intersectional 399 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 11: focus on physicists who also might be people of color 400 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 11: or women. Currently, I am working on a social network 401 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 11: analysis project to understand how LGBT plus physicists at the 402 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 11: intersections of gender and race build and navigate their professional 403 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 11: networks to successfully launch and continue in their careers. This 404 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 11: is important knowledge to understand in order to support graduate 405 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 11: students and building robust and strong networks early in their 406 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 11: educations in order to find whatever their definition of successes 407 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 11: within their field. As a physicist, I truly believe that 408 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 11: this is a science that everybody can learn about and enjoy, 409 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 11: and I hope that I can improve it in some 410 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 11: small way. 411 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: I love what doctor Bartholomy had to say, and I 412 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 2: know that they said that they were going to be 413 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: improving the space in a small way. But those small 414 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: changes make a big difference in a lot of people's lives. 415 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: And just like all of the work that we've heard today, 416 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: these are all advances in spaces that are going to 417 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: have a large impact. 418 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: We've heard from so many wonderful scientists today, you know, 419 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: and they're doing amazing work. They're making the feel better. 420 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: Like why would you want to exclude these folks? 421 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: I know, I mean when you think about what is 422 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: missed out on when people are trying to deny folks 423 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: access to any type of community. But I'm having more 424 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: diverse populations within STEM and in every field. It creates 425 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: better product, it creates more advancements, and it also creates 426 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: an environment where more folks feel like they can be 427 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: a part of it. 428 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, this lapl was all about amplifying queer voices. We 429 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: heard about astronomy, neuroscience, biodiversity, and entomology. I mean we 430 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: heard about it all. 431 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: Right, and that is just a small taste of where 432 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: the queer community has impact. I feel like there are 433 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: so many resources online for you to learn more about 434 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: queer scientists and the work that they're doing. Like there's 435 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: an organization called five hundred Queer Science, and it provides 436 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: lists of queer people who are involved in STEM. But 437 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: then they also have a lot of studies that lets 438 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: you know some of the work that's being done and 439 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: where we still need to make improvements. 440 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: And I think the thing to remember is with organizations 441 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: like five hundred Queer Scientists, or when you get on 442 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: social media like Twitter and Instagram where you're looking at 443 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: hashtag LGBTQ and STEM or LGBT and STEM. All of 444 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: these folks are doing the hard work of making STEM better. 445 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: And for all these people that you see, there are 446 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: people who aren't in these fields today because they were 447 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: hostile or exclusionary or you know, not nurturing folks that 448 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: feel just a little different from them. So I think 449 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: it's important to acknowledge that, and I think the people 450 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: that are still there weren't necessarily nurtured either, So we 451 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: have to really address, you know, the toll. You know 452 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: that everybody's like, oh, be resilient and stay persistent, be persistent, right, 453 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: Like those things have a cost, right, It's not just resilience, Oh, 454 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to show up here, exactly, even when I'm tired. 455 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: It is sometimes showing up in places where my whole 456 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: identity in person are not welcome. Exactly. 457 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: The whole idea of being resilient and persisting is something 458 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: that is exclusive to people in marginalized communities. People from 459 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: the majority don't have to be resilient, don't have to 460 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: persist they are allowed to be themselves in every single space, 461 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: and that should be par for the course for everyone. 462 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: We should be able to show up. 463 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: As we are, be who we are, and make the 464 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: impacts that we know that we can make on every 465 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: single space. And as much as we celebrate, you know 466 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: how far we've come and how far things have changed, 467 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: we also have to pay attention to the rollback of 468 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: rights right so that don't say gay Bill in Florida, 469 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: well started in Florida and now spreading to these other states, 470 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: and the potential of New Jersey proposing some build that's 471 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: even worse than the one in Florida. 472 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: Like, there's a lot. 473 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: To pay attention to, and just hope we you know, 474 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: STEM doesn't become a field that's just paying lip service 475 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: right to the marginalized communities. 476 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: Honestly, because sometimes it just is, you know, in vogue 477 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 2: for folks to say that they stand with the LGBTQIA 478 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: plus community, to put up the flag, to say, oh, 479 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: yes we're inclusive, but then they aren't really actually doing 480 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 2: the work. So you see the rainbows in June, you 481 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: see different corporations highlighting their queer employees, but then after June, 482 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: it kind of stops, and what we want to show 483 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: is that you have to continue that work outside of 484 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: Pride Month. You have to continue the amplification of queer 485 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: people of queer identities outside of June because they exist 486 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty five days a year. 487 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: That's it for LAP sixty six. 488 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: I am so grateful for the people who called in 489 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: and share their story, share their work with us. Do 490 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: you have something you want to share? 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