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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we don't know what to

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Speaker 1: think about the number one seeds in each conference. I'm

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Patrick Claybon and Jordan Rodriege. Nick Shook coming

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Speaker 1: up later on the show, and he's going to talk

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Speaker 1: about one of those one seeds.

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Speaker 2: That fell the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: I feel like some of these Sundays it's just like

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Speaker 1: move it forward Sunday, It's like a four or five

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Speaker 1: yard run on first and ten. This was not one

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Speaker 1: of those Sundays. I feel like we had big time

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Speaker 1: teams losing. We had JJ McCarthy re entering the picture

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Speaker 1: like we just a lot happened.

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Speaker 3: It was fun.

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Speaker 4: I mean everything comparative to last week was just awesome.

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Speaker 4: As awesome as last week was, Don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 4: Like the unexpected happened in so many of these games,

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Speaker 4: and I love it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, last week was the third quarter, first drive interception,

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Speaker 5: returning deep into your own territory. This at this game

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Speaker 5: this week was like the defensive line stepping in, got

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Speaker 5: to stop on booth and gold, get the old moBack

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Speaker 5: on your side.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of good defensive snops, including in

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Speaker 1: the game of the day. So the Bills Chiefs was

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Speaker 1: not the best game of the day. Ultimately, when Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen and Patrick Mahomes are playing near the peak of

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Speaker 1: their powers and their teams are relevant, which they always are,

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Speaker 1: they're going to lead the show. And ultimately I thought

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Speaker 1: what happened today in the AFC was really interesting. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the top of the AFC to start this show,

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Speaker 1: and let's start in Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Five on the plate clock, Mahomes and the shotgun on

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Speaker 6: third and eleven.

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Speaker 2: Play clocked down to one.

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Speaker 6: Here's the snap pressure coming Mahomes. He's it down the

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Speaker 6: field looking for Worthy. It's picked off by.

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Speaker 7: Maxwell Hairston at the Buffalo thirty two yard line. The

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Speaker 7: rookie with a takeaway Joey Bosa got the pressure and

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Speaker 7: it led to an arm punk by Mahome and Harston

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Speaker 4: Oo.

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Speaker 1: Maxwell Hairston has he just changed the Yes, entire Bills

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Speaker 1: defense in the last couple of weeks, picks off Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes late. The defense prevents Patrick Mahomes from a hail

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Speaker 1: Mary try and the Bills win with a nice combined

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Speaker 1: effort between the offense and the defense. That was Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown on w g R capping just a magical weekend

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Speaker 1: for Eric Roberts, hardcore Dodgers slash Bills fan, Austin Roberts,

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Speaker 1: his son only knows Dodgers World Championships, and Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: as the Bills quarterback. Fantastic game to me, Patrick, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think there was anything lucky about it. In fact,

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Speaker 1: there were some unlucky aspects to it for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: including more injuries for them. It was just a game

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Speaker 1: where they looked better up in terms of their running

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Speaker 1: game and their pass rush then the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: and frankly like by the end, it almost felt that

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs were lucky to still even be in this. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Consistently throughout the game, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes were trying

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Speaker 5: to game out what Sean McDermott's defense was doing to

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Speaker 5: scheme them up. There was a play that we discussed

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Speaker 5: extensively in the first half where the Chiefs have a

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Speaker 5: goal to go opportunity wind up kicking a field goal,

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Speaker 5: but they run the Xavier Worthy on the play that

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Speaker 5: Bowl running motion coming in and going back out, and

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs had a man look that appeared to be

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Speaker 5: running directly into defender and Patrick Mahomes had nowhere to

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Speaker 5: go with the ball. That was a consistent thing, and

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Speaker 5: the problem with this Chief's defense was having guys have

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Speaker 5: over expectation all negative. Rashi Rice negative eleven yards, Travis

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Speaker 5: The only theory I have, Greg is guys are out

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Speaker 5: of position, they're uncomfortable. Maxwell Harrison comes in and suddenly

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes completes under fifty percent of his passes in

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Speaker 1: this game, and a lot of them that he did

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Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy, who only gets three catches on seven targets

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Speaker 1: I mean, all the problems that we talked about, including

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Speaker 1: the run defense for the Bills defense really wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: And if nothing else, Man Sean McDermott, he knows how

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Speaker 1: to make it uncomfortable on this Chief's offense, specifically in

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Speaker 4: I think one of the things that Sean McDermott has

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Speaker 4: taking advantage of those potential soft spots or those weaknesses

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Speaker 4: seen and also take advantage of where the Chiefs are

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Speaker 4: banged up. They're banged up along their offensive line. Okay,

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Speaker 4: they hit Patrick Mahomes fifteen times, three sacks, but fifteen

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Speaker 4: Isaiah Pacheco. Okay, well, the Bills have been one of

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Speaker 4: to Kareem Hunt alone. The way that they could take

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the running game is a perfect thing

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Speaker 1: same for two teams, but the Bills do it at volume,

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Speaker 1: Even today he played behind Knocks and Spencer Hawes, and

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Speaker 1: a great pass rush today, you're gonna win this game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you kind of see some of the same

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Speaker 5: issues for both teams, except the Bills offensive line better healthier,

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Speaker 5: Jawan Taylor left the game at a certain point. Then

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Speaker 1: Everyone was like going in and out, but yeah, they

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Speaker 5: So like you get the dichotomy where it's kind of

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Speaker 5: like nothing long sustained in terms of success. And they

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, but them being able to hit a fourth

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Speaker 1: and seventeen, that's why you go for the fourth.

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Speaker 2: You're the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: I thought you're in you Reid, you found fourth down

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Speaker 1: they stop it only Kareem Hunt gets stopped and then

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Speaker 5: And also the guy who makes that decision is the

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Speaker 5: little bit of survivorship bias in the way we look

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Speaker 8: I think we should kick the ball and get three points.

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Speaker 1: And so that I think fans effect, and yeah, Pacheck

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Speaker 1: for a running back more than anything. To me, Pachecko

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Speaker 3: So I think the Bills have to be buyers too.

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Speaker 4: It's so sad, you know, Michael Hoyt being out with

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Speaker 4: what Sean McDermott said postgames and Achilles not really stinks. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: he missed the first six games as well with that suspension.

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Speaker 3: He was really showing up for them.

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Speaker 4: He was popping making some splash plays and they needed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing is they've been out like they've

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa in this game had ten pressures according to PFF,

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Speaker 1: So was consistent. Great complete game from the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: The Bills with a two game lead and the tiebreaker.

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Speaker 1: It was the Indianapolis Colts. Big test for them in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 10: Joey Porter Junior, first.

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Speaker 11: Interception of the season at the forty yard line.

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Speaker 9: Of the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: As the Steelers.

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Speaker 9: Now with another turnover, how many macs one for the other.

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Speaker 7: Thumb six on the day?

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Speaker 2: Outrageous.

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Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts came in too Sunday and yes, we're

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Speaker 2: They had six today, five.

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Speaker 1: Of them at the hands of Danny Dimes.

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Speaker 1: It was as bad, but more than anything, I give

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Speaker 4: Well, we have to get into it schematically, because that's

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Speaker 3: You could see that it changed.

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Speaker 4: The way that the receivers were trying to run their

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Speaker 3: That was very clear too.

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Speaker 4: So I think, you know, credit to Mike Tomlin because

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Speaker 4: But it's also that they mixed up some of their

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Speaker 1: And the way they talked about it was and this

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't zone for dummies, that's what he thinks

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Speaker 1: Right in the end, like you look at the numbers

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Speaker 1: the real goal here is to stop Jonathan Taylor. And

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Speaker 1: it was Jonathan Taylor's worst day of the season. Make

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones beat them trust in the pass rush. And

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Speaker 1: But they got out gained by like one hundred and

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Speaker 2: That's what they did.

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Speaker 5: And we've seen the Steelers team earlier this season when

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Speaker 5: They actually the Steelers got out gained three sixty nine

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Speaker 5: second of hesitation as as Daniel Jones is looking down

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Speaker 5: But it wasn't like consistent ultimate failure. It was just

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Speaker 5: not like the Colts coughing it up. I think the

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Speaker 5: probably the best Peyton Wilson game that we've seen all

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Speaker 1: Peyton Wilson with the interception tips a pass at the

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Speaker 1: Alex Highsmith stripsack. That to me was just like a

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Speaker 2: Quick pressure there.

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Speaker 1: But he did have kind of a groaner where he

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Speaker 12: Line between drink and wine and squashing grapes. In this business.

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Speaker 12: That's football. At this level, it's a limited number of

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Speaker 12: an outcome with still the same group that's stunk it

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 4: I like that he said that because that's exactly the

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Speaker 4: not like they dramatically overhauled their entire system and scheme.

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Speaker 4: They had a new player joined the group and yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: Good pickup, Yeah, they got they got him if you

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Speaker 1: missed it in a trade, a late round pickswap and

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Speaker 1: just the dudes showed up. And it was funny watching

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Speaker 1: the Colts defensive plan. They blitzed on forty one percent

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Speaker 1: Because Aaron Rodgers, he went like everything you've seen about

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Speaker 1: took some pressures early. Their offense did not look good

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Speaker 1: But Rogers, Yeah, but he did. He did score two

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Speaker 8: That's two scores.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing about the Steelers. They're a great red

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Speaker 1: He had a time to throw a two point one today,

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Speaker 1: And it's a lot of Dardo and Friarmouth and John

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Speaker 5: There was there was a rollout before the first Jalen

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Speaker 8: Rogers is back the grass.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: The gap closed almost instantly, and uh, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he has like that that one moment of hesitation.

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Speaker 2: Part of valor there.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers winning the division right now, I think the

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Speaker 2: He has Jakes in the left slot. It's a third

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Speaker 15: The painters able to set up a bit of a

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Speaker 15: rough player Water Henry.

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Speaker 16: He's able to get wide open Drake May Finshi.

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Speaker 2: Catch a ball game. Oh, they wouldn't even let so

444
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Speaker 2: lock in on the call. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Eric's feeling frisky the Dodgers parade on Monday. You're not

446
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Speaker 1: getting in his show, Bob Sochi wb Z twenty four

447
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Speaker 1: to twenty three. We've had a lot of games like that, Jordan,

448
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Speaker 1: where they need Drake May or the offense to get

449
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Speaker 1: one or two first downs at the end of the game.

450
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Speaker 1: And even after letting the Falcons back into this one,

451
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Speaker 1: they get the job done in the end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Drake May and Hunter Henry needed that. They

453
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Speaker 4: needed to make that play badly, not just to ice

454
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Speaker 4: out the game, but because after a really strong start

455
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Speaker 4: by Drake May two touchdowns, super clean game, he only

456
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Speaker 4: had three incompletions, he started turning the ball over. He

457
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 4: turned the ball over twice. The Falcons scored ten points

458
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Speaker 4: off of his turnovers, and then the Patriots basically just

459
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Speaker 4: had to hold off of Falcons comeback because they only

460
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Speaker 4: scored three second half points. But as we know, whenever

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Speaker 4: they are given the chance to falcon, the Falcons will falcon.

462
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Speaker 4: And at the end of the game, Parker Romo misses

463
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Speaker 4: an extra point that would have tied the game. After

464
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Speaker 4: the two teams traded really sloppy possessions, Drake May got

465
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Speaker 4: a last chance to close it out with that conversion,

466
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Speaker 4: and that is ultimately what sealed the game. It was

467
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Speaker 4: real touch and go there for a minute, but they

468
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Speaker 4: got it done.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that.

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Speaker 1: My worst take, and I've had so many of the preseason,

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Speaker 1: would be that the Patriots were making a mistake keeping

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Speaker 1: their rookie Andy Borgallis, who's been money, and getting rid

473
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Speaker 1: of Parker Romo, who supposedly beat him in the camp competition.

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Speaker 2: But you know why they.

475
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Speaker 1: Didn't because Mike Rabel know things we don't. You know,

476
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Speaker 1: he just has the magic sauce.

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Speaker 2: Apparently.

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Speaker 4: It's incredible. It's incredible what they're doing. And I will say,

479
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 4: you see the score, and you see the second half

480
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Speaker 4: of the offense for what New England was doing or

481
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Speaker 4: not doing, and you see the Falcons start to surge.

482
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Speaker 4: The Patriots looked like the better team through most of

483
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Speaker 4: this game Atlanta. They only had they only had four

484
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Speaker 4: carries for Jon Robinson for twenty yards. Fifteen of those

485
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Speaker 4: yards came on one carry. By the way, I'm clocking

486
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Speaker 4: this they're only under center run play or any play

487
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Speaker 4: from under center of the game goes for fifteen yards.

488
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Speaker 4: It's his longest run of the game. And Michael Penix

489
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Speaker 4: had two touchdowns but really only one full good.

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Speaker 2: First half drive with three total touchdowns right to London.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, but I'm talking about the first half, like

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Speaker 4: I mentioned, so in the first half he only had

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Speaker 4: two touchdowns and really only one full good drive. It

494
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Speaker 4: was fifty three yards and five plays, and that was

495
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Speaker 4: on the third possession of the game. They really couldn't

496
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Speaker 4: move the ball much at all in the first half.

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Speaker 4: They capitalized from the six yard line off of a

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Speaker 4: takeaway or one of the first the early Drake made

499
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Speaker 4: turnovers and that was what really was helping them stay

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Speaker 4: in this game. That and the fact that every time

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Speaker 4: Michael Pennix threw it to Drake London, who had a

502
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Speaker 4: hat trick today, he was making something insane happen. Let's

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Speaker 4: hear his third touchdown of the game.

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Speaker 15: Sales London a pitch to the right, voting to the left.

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Speaker 15: We're going to get his own coverage Robinson with Pennix.

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Speaker 16: Here's the staff. They bring five again, they'll throw it

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Speaker 16: for London.

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Speaker 11: He did, he hang on, he did touchdown Atlanta.

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Speaker 8: Oh, this is an unbelievable is done it again?

510
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Speaker 3: It's just insane. It's just insane, and it was.

511
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Speaker 4: It was really Drake London go up and make a

512
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Speaker 4: play and otherwise just extremely disjointed from the Falcons offense.

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Speaker 4: And it wasn't you know, the Patriots had really a

514
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Speaker 4: really solid run defense. Again, they had not up until

515
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Speaker 4: this game, had not allowed a single rusher to go

516
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Speaker 4: over fifty yards the entire season. But this just was

517
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Speaker 4: another example of the Falcons doing just enough in spurts

518
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Speaker 4: and way negative plays, negative drives, not enough in others.

519
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Speaker 4: The two rookies on the defensive side were a bright spot,

520
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Speaker 4: Jalen Walker and James Pierce Junior. They combined to force

521
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Speaker 4: that Drake may fumble stripsack that James Pierce picked up

522
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Speaker 4: and ran to the six yard line. Other than that,

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Speaker 4: I mean, they the Patriots really outplayed them. And again

524
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Speaker 4: the box score doesn't really show it, but in every

525
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Speaker 4: phase the Patriots just really had it more consistently than

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Speaker 4: the Falcons did.

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Speaker 5: And it's a consistent thing that we've talked about for

528
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Speaker 5: weeks now about this game and how they are executing

529
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Speaker 5: this offense for the Atlanta Falcons, where I think we

530
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Speaker 5: can just get rid of the game against the Dolphins

531
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Speaker 5: where when Kirk Cousins was playing that in hindsight was

532
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Speaker 5: just gonna go left regardless. But we see where John

533
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Speaker 5: Robinson's getting ten targets for just fifty yards other than

534
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Speaker 5: Drake London and a couple of Kyle Pitts catches that

535
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Speaker 5: really nothing available, and it's just Drake London a lot

536
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 5: of times late in the plays and Michael Pennix Junior

537
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Speaker 5: kind of collaborating to freestyle stuff like the one fade

538
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Speaker 5: touchdown to Drake London, he catches the ball on the

539
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Speaker 5: other shoulder on a fade ball, just having to like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the original call was there in

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Speaker 5: terms of the offense, because like it's a fade that

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Speaker 5: he's catching on the inside just because he's got that

543
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Speaker 5: significant size advantage of over most people. But you look

544
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Speaker 5: at the way that the Falcons are operating, and so

545
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Speaker 5: much doesn't make sense. Yeah, and despite all that, they're

546
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Speaker 5: a Parker Romo extra point, and again, like who's to

547
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Speaker 5: say they stop the Patriots And Drake May doesn't get

548
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Speaker 5: a Bori Gallas field goal to win the game. But

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Speaker 5: it's another one of these situations where this team could

550
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Speaker 5: have easily won this football game despite all the problems

551
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Speaker 5: that they have on both sides of the balls.

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Speaker 3: Well, it really was for the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: It really was as simple as the turnovers, because they

554
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Speaker 4: were moving the ball really well, but they just turned

555
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Speaker 4: it over between the second and third quarters and they

556
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Speaker 4: just Drake May just doesn't hasn't really done that. I mean,

557
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Speaker 4: he has played mostly just really clean football. He's pushed

558
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Speaker 4: the ball, he has not been afraid to make really

559
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Speaker 4: good throws. There were a couple early in the game

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Speaker 4: that were absolutely sick. I was turning to Greg and

561
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Speaker 4: being like, I don't think you're actually making enough of

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Speaker 4: a big.

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Speaker 8: Deal about it.

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Speaker 2: I think I think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I've almost been afraid to make too

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Speaker 1: big of a yea, I think you'll be judged. Drake

567
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Speaker 1: May becoming like a top five type of quarterback this

568
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Speaker 1: season is one of the biggest stories in the NFL

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Speaker 1: this season.

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Speaker 2: But I do I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 1: To me he's gonna have some higher variance games because

572
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Speaker 1: he does take chances. It's been crazy how clean everything

573
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Speaker 1: has been, so games like this don't surprise me.

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Speaker 2: I think there will be more games like this.

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Speaker 1: And to be fair, their offense has almost never put

576
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Speaker 1: together full games. It's always one terrible it's always like

577
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Speaker 1: one really quiet half and then they turn it on.

578
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Speaker 2: It's usually the second half. This time they kind of

579
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Speaker 2: reversed it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely the inverse of it. I think

581
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Speaker 4: credit to the defense because they did make enough plays

582
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Speaker 4: on there and to just stop a ton of like

583
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Speaker 4: consistency and it was a lot of stop start, stop

584
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Speaker 4: start and then throw the ball in a gotta have

585
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: it moment to Drake London. This was a Michael Pennock's

586
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 4: game that was kind of confusing. So he had a

587
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 4: fourth and four on that drive and of course he

588
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: goes to Drake London and of course Drake London converts

589
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Speaker 4: it and then it sets up a touchdown. But then

590
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Speaker 4: when they're trying to close out the game, and to

591
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 4: be fair, both offenses traded sloppy possessions when we were

592
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Speaker 4: trying to close out the game. It's a confusion. There's

593
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Speaker 4: an intentional grounding penalty that you know. Rahee Morris said

594
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Speaker 4: after the game the Patriots caused because they were clapping

595
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Speaker 4: with the cadence because they had scouted out the cadence. Now,

596
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Speaker 4: I went back and I looked at the ALL twenty

597
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Speaker 4: two like what was available on NFL Plus, and I

598
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Speaker 4: cannot see a single player clapping. So I'm not really

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Speaker 4: sure if it was coming from the sideline or where

600
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Speaker 4: it was coming from, or what prompted Rahee Morris to

601
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Speaker 4: say that. But they definitely messed up the snap cadence

602
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: and the timing. Michael Penix had to dirt the ball.

603
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: It was called intentional grounding. It totally took them out

604
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Speaker 4: of the ability to continue the drive and maybe even

605
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: tried for another field goal.

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Speaker 3: It just was sloppy.

607
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Speaker 4: There's like one or two really great moments per game

608
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: and then the rest of it is so sloppy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one that I was having a conversation

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Speaker 1: with you, Patrick. I think people should go for fourth

611
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Speaker 1: and long a little longer. They decided to punt it

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Speaker 1: away instead of going for a fourth and twenty. They

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Speaker 1: don't get the ball back. I know it's either way.

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Speaker 1: It's a low percentage play, but I would go for

615
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Speaker 1: fourth and twenty. That's not what the Patriots would rather.

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Speaker 1: You punt the ball away in that situation, Christian Gonzalez

617
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Speaker 1: left this game. He did say afterwards that he was

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00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: checked for a concussion, I believe, and he could have

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Speaker 1: come back into the game.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So the Patriots, they are still the second seed in

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Speaker 1: the AFC, and that that's kind of the top of

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Speaker 1: it right now.

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Speaker 2: Before we take a break.

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Speaker 1: Actually, though, let's talk about the other biggest story of

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Speaker 1: this Sunday.

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00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: It was the return of JJ McCarthy. It was glorious.

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Speaker 17: A first down wins the game for you. JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 17: shotgun third and five from his own twenty eight twenty

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Speaker 17: seven to twenty four Minutnnesota Detroit with one time out remaining,

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Speaker 17: snap four man Rush McCarthy throwing right Naylor and.

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Speaker 18: He cotage yes at the forty six yard line.

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Speaker 11: That's a sixteen yard grab by Jalen Naylor and all.

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Speaker 17: You Lions lovers here at forteen oh, you can head home.

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Speaker 8: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love everything about it. I love Paul Allen on

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Speaker 1: k f AN. I love that they got the matchup

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Speaker 1: of Jalen Naylor on Arthur Malette on a third and

639
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: five and that JJ McCarthy had the confidence to go

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00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: after it back shoulder, perfect ball, Naylor ices the game.

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Speaker 1: They hold on to beat the Detroit Lions twenty seven

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Speaker 1: to twenty four. Patrick, give us your big picture of

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Speaker 1: view of what kind of day JJ McCarthy had.

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Speaker 5: It sums it up on Paul Allen's call, because it's

645
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 5: been a while since we've seen JJ McCarthy, justin James

646
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Speaker 5: McCarthy back in our lives since week two.

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Speaker 8: It was Carson Wentz and we didn't hear.

648
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: That that sauce, that spice from Paul Allen saying Lions

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00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 5: fans go home and enjoyed the rest of that Detroit

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00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: has to offer, because.

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Speaker 8: It's that's the ballgame.

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Speaker 5: To sum it up, where there's Jordan Addison, there's Justin Jefferson,

653
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Speaker 5: who dealt with some cramps in the game. They're lined

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Speaker 5: up three wide on the right side. They both won

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Speaker 5: crossers and that was the second target of the day

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Speaker 5: for Jalen Naylor. One was an interception on a ball

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Speaker 5: that McCarthy actually missed, was a little bit behind. Terry

658
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Speaker 5: on Ardold got his first career interception on that one,

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Speaker 5: but he throws that back shoulder to Jalen Naylor to

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Speaker 5: ice the game. The confidence to go with that, and

661
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Speaker 5: it wasn't just welcome back JJ McCarthy was welcome back

662
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Speaker 5: Brian Flores in a vintage of Vikings defense performance where

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Speaker 5: they made timely plays where the Lions probably didn't have

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Speaker 5: their best pitches. I know, Dan Campbell, you know, acknowledged

665
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Speaker 5: that sometimes things just go the other way, you know,

666
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Speaker 5: But it was a rough game for Lions, standards for them.

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Speaker 5: The guys in Purple, though, had a lot to say

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Speaker 5: about that. Jamior Gibbs David Montgomery both combined sixty five

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Speaker 5: yards on the ground. Sustained success wasn't there for the Lions.

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Speaker 5: I'm on Ross Saint Brown had some drops then he

671
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Speaker 5: normally converts. But the way the game started. On fourth down,

672
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Speaker 5: it's fourth and four. Dan Campbell being Dan Campbell, goes

673
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Speaker 5: for it. Sam Laporter catches the ball at the ten,

674
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Speaker 5: muscles his way into the end zone with some help

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Speaker 5: from Khalif Raymond to go in there. But JJ McCarthy

676
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Speaker 5: comes right back down the field. Some nice runs from

677
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Speaker 5: Aaron Jones, who they're glad to get back because they

678
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Speaker 5: look the ground game was great, but Aaron Jones would

679
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Speaker 5: leave with a shoulder later on in this game, McCarthy

680
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Speaker 5: hits Justin Jefferson for a fade ball, one handed snag

681
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Speaker 5: from JJ where we've seen he and Meek Robertson go

682
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Speaker 5: at it since seven on seven camps in Louisiana. Amik

683
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Speaker 5: got the better of him in that Week eighteen game

684
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Speaker 5: last year, but Justin Jefferson showed his dominance there. And

685
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Speaker 5: the closing sequence where the Lions do get a touchdown

686
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Speaker 5: on a ball to Jamison Williams where the Stripes thought

687
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Speaker 5: he stepped out of bounds but JMO stayed in extended

688
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Speaker 5: at the pylon for six but they left too much time.

689
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Speaker 5: They get the ball to JJ McCarthy and he goes down,

690
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Speaker 5: burns the clock out and a solid division win for

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Speaker 5: the Minnesota Vikings. In the overwrought JJ McCarthy conversation for

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Speaker 5: a week, Greg.

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Speaker 2: It feels so different. You forget a week.

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Speaker 1: This is I think a season changing type of win

695
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Speaker 1: because it was two starts. JJ's all that matters, and

696
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Speaker 1: it's just a start towards everything that they want, and

697
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Speaker 1: this division is suddenly very close. All four teams got

698
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Speaker 1: a chance here and they're four and four, but to

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Speaker 1: knock off the Lions and to do it in this way.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the defense eleven QB hits on golf, ten

701
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Speaker 1: tackles for lost, five sacks, and then the running game

702
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Speaker 1: they are successful in half their runs, doubling the success

703
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Speaker 1: rate of the Lions who couldn't run the ball at all.

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Speaker 1: And maybe maybe it is all from that confidence from

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Let's actually look at uh JJ McCarthy's arrival.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you're watching us on YouTube, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you all, and uh like subscribe, do the thing and

708
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Speaker 1: just watch how awkward this is. He's coming in, you know,

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Speaker 1: with his work shirt that that symbolizes that he's a

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Speaker 1: working man. He sees the dude Tom Pelisaro gets a

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Speaker 1: fist bump and then KOs gets it. I really just

712
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Speaker 1: wanted to show this partly for the shirt, but I

713
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Speaker 1: was like, hey, we're we're work.

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Speaker 2: We're coming here to work.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a Michigan Wolverine thing, so it's a

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Speaker 1: callback to that. But but then giving Peliser, he had

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Speaker 1: no idea I think in that moment who Tom Piliser

718
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Speaker 1: was and just was like, I guess I better give

719
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Speaker 1: the fist bump, or maybe he did.

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Speaker 2: And Pelisara's on the team.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it's it's the key and Peel sketch

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Speaker 5: with the President depths like fully fully executed there, like

723
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Speaker 5: a full on depth on one side and then fist

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Speaker 5: bumps for Tom p and he goes to see his

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Speaker 5: head coach.

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to throw that in there because that's

727
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Speaker 1: JJ arriving, and then this is him arriving in the

728
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Speaker 1: locker room after the game. I just liked that they

729
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Speaker 1: were all waiting for him like a groom at like

730
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Speaker 1: a wedding or something.

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Speaker 2: That was amazing.

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Speaker 3: That's cool. I loved that Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 4: These little things that build confidence for a quarterback, and

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Speaker 4: we have such a small sample size for JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 4: but I think there were so many moments in this

736
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Speaker 4: game where it was this mutual ability to not only

737
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Speaker 4: build confidence with what you're calling for this quarterback, but

738
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Speaker 4: also the team doing what the plan was initially when

739
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Speaker 4: they decided they were going to go with JJ McCarthy,

740
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Speaker 4: which was get what they could out of a better

741
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Speaker 4: running game, lift the floor there, really play very very

742
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Speaker 4: good attacking, solid defense, absolutely seven percent pressure rate on

743
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Speaker 4: Jared Goff attacking defense at one point with only one

744
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Speaker 4: down In between these two plays, you saw Javon Hargrave

745
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Speaker 4: get into the backfield for a tackle for loss in

746
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Speaker 4: the run game. Then you saw Harrison Smith bat down

747
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Speaker 4: a Jared Goff pass when coming off the edge on

748
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Speaker 4: a blitz. That was the Brian Flores experience in a

749
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Speaker 4: nutshell today and it was back and they needed to

750
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Speaker 4: be because this was what they wanted for JJ McCarthy,

751
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Speaker 4: not just to give him like a level runway, to

752
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Speaker 4: continue to stack days together, to get more experience to

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Speaker 4: play football, and then to lift the entire floor around

754
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Speaker 4: him if things didn't necessarily go his way, and I

755
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Speaker 4: thought for the most part they did go his way.

756
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Speaker 4: As a passer, he made some excellent throws today and

757
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Speaker 4: I loved that Kevin O'Connell put it in his hands

758
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Speaker 4: to ice out the game, to try to make that difficult, level,

759
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Speaker 4: low probability throw outside shoulder to Jalen Naylor on the

760
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Speaker 4: perimeter to ice out the game. All of these things

761
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Speaker 4: together in combination, really go such a long way for

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Speaker 4: a quarterback that is trying to actually be in the

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Speaker 4: NFL and put positive games together.

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Speaker 5: And I think we saw the glimpses of why you

765
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Speaker 5: can be hopeful and believe because I had openly wondered,

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Speaker 5: I'm s having this conversation with Greg, like where's the

767
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Speaker 5: place that JJ McCarthy excels, like athletically, how do we

768
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Speaker 5: evaluate him? And I was skeptical there and Greg Rosenthal's like, no,

769
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Speaker 5: JJ's an athlete. He showed it today on that touchdown

770
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Speaker 5: run where Jack Campbell has gotten everything in his vicinity,

771
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Speaker 5: puts a move on Jack Campbell at the five and

772
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Speaker 5: then it looks like Brian Branch is gonna smash him

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Speaker 5: at the pylon and he evades that just enough to

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Speaker 5: go in standing up where you can see like you

775
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Speaker 5: get JJ McCarthy out on the edge. That is an

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Speaker 5: athlete making plays where I'm in.

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Speaker 1: That was the moment where I was like, that was

778
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Speaker 1: not happening over the last time Carson wentz five or

779
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Speaker 1: six weeks, two guys, and like, I don't think you

780
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Speaker 1: can overstate like the Flora's game plan because Eric Wilson,

781
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Speaker 1: their linebacker, had five quick pressures today, don't I just

782
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Speaker 1: counted up. They had sixteen quick pressures, which is under

783
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Speaker 1: two and a half seconds as a team, which is

784
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Speaker 1: as might be the highest that I've seen all season.

785
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Speaker 1: And it's close to being up there, and just percentage wise.

786
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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy actually was pressured at a higher rate, but

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Speaker 1: that's partly because he was holding onto the ball a lot.

788
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Speaker 1: But the Lions also got a million quick pressures too.

789
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Speaker 1: So this was a game where both offensive lines were

790
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Speaker 1: losing in terms of the passing game. And for the

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Speaker 1: Vikings to come out on top in a matchup that

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell has owned, I think it's a really big

793
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Speaker 1: statement win in the middle of this season.

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Speaker 5: And there's gonna be more shuffling up front for the Lions.

795
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Speaker 5: Christian Hockey got carted off in the order. Dan Campbell

796
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Speaker 5: says he was going to be out for some time there,

797
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Speaker 5: so so more changes up front for the Lions where.

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Speaker 8: They just started getting people back up front. Now it's

799
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Speaker 8: back to the shuffle.

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Speaker 1: So the Vikings, they don't forget about us in this

801
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Speaker 1: NFC North race. We will get to the Packers a

802
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: little later with Shookie in the show. But yeah, Lions

803
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Speaker 1: fall to six and two and let's take a break

804
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: and on the other side, we will go to our

805
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: favorite weekly segment. Yes it's the Cincinnati Bengals defense helps

806
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Speaker 1: to create the game of the year.

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Speaker 2: Of the week again.

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Speaker 19: Bears cannot stop the clock with a timeout.

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Speaker 8: Bring there.

810
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 19: Those safeties are back deep, but Unja motions left.

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Speaker 8: They're blitzing.

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Speaker 19: It's picked up Caleb Crose middle of the field, love

813
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Speaker 19: and catch breaks away the thirty love the twenty gul

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Speaker 19: the ten buil an end zone touchdown Bears Colston Lovelin

815
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Speaker 19: on a throw by kayleb. Williams HiT's a fifty eight

816
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Speaker 19: yard strike to the Michigan rookie had his second touchdown today.

817
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Speaker 19: He outran the Bengals here in the jungle. The Bears

818
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Speaker 19: have the lead again.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Zoniak on w mv P man fourth quarter, three

820
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Speaker 1: touchdowns after the two minute warning only in Cincinnati, forty

821
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Speaker 1: seven to forty two. Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson breathe

822
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Speaker 1: a sigh of relief and yeah, Jeff Joniak on WMVP

823
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Speaker 1: is loving every minute of it, and Bengals fans are thinking,

824
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Speaker 1: how did that happen?

825
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: Again?

826
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Speaker 4: The Fungals for the Bengals, whoopsies. A game that featured

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Speaker 4: all offense and very very little defense, including eight lead changes,

828
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Speaker 4: also got as weird as it did thanks to two

829
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Speaker 4: massive special teams plays. First, the game opened with a

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Speaker 4: kickoff return for a touchdown. I'm the very first play

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Speaker 4: by Charlie Jones of the Bengals that kicked off scoring

832
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Speaker 4: score again and again and again and again. They would

833
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Speaker 4: then late in the game, an on side kick during

834
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Speaker 4: the Bengals double digit fourth quarter comeback got accidentally kicked

835
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Speaker 4: by Daniel Hardy, a Bears player on the cover team,

836
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Speaker 4: even though it was short of the distance it needed

837
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Speaker 4: to travel, which was recovered by the Bengals, which set

838
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Speaker 4: up there go ahead touchdown to make the score forty

839
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Speaker 4: two to forty one. But Caleb william and Colston Lovelin,

840
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Speaker 4: who had caught his first touchdown of his NFL career

841
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Speaker 4: earlier in the game, connected on that fifty eight yard touchdown,

842
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 4: sending Bengals defenders pinballing off of each other and lost

843
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Speaker 4: in coverage. And once again it was the Bengals defense

844
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Speaker 4: letting down the offense in a wild one with just

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Speaker 4: twenty five seconds left in regulation.

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Speaker 1: I know you have some stats. There are just so

847
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Speaker 1: many ridiculous stats when it comes to the Bengals defense.

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Speaker 1: So many of these.

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Speaker 3: I have weird facts.

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Speaker 1: Go for what you were, Okay, yeah, So many of

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Speaker 1: these plays seem to include Genostone.

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Speaker 2: Not to pick on just one guy.

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Speaker 1: But it's just like they're at a point where they

854
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Speaker 1: have multiple problems and they just have no one to

855
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Speaker 1: put in for him. But yeah, some of my stats

856
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: were their first team to allow five hundred yards, thirty

857
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Speaker 1: eight points and create no takeaways in a two game span. Ever,

858
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: that's just Super Bowl since the merger Super Bowl. Ever,

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Speaker 1: they're also the first team since the sixty six Giants

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Speaker 1: to score thirty eight points or more in back to

861
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Speaker 1: back games and not win any of them. And then

862
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Speaker 1: if you go through and this is from Jake Liscow

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Speaker 1: who does LOCKEDWN, Bengals some of the worst EPA P

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Speaker 1: play numbers of the last twenty five years. This is

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Speaker 1: out of eight hundred different defenses. They're the second worst overall,

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Speaker 1: worse than defensive success rate, worse than points per game,

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Speaker 1: and bottom two to four in basically any other statue

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Speaker 1: like this is a historically bad defense.

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Speaker 2: But the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I give them credit for taking advantage because that's what

871
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Speaker 1: you gotta do against historically bad defense, especially when your

872
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Speaker 1: defense is a little leaky late in the game.

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Speaker 4: Well, the cracks are starting to show, so first and foremost,

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Speaker 4: I want to hear from Chase Brown about that Bengals

875
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Speaker 4: defense letting down once again the offense because we'll get

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Speaker 4: to the weird us of the rest of the game.

877
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 4: But here is Chase Brown, a grumpy Chase Brown after

878
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: the game.

879
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 20: We just got to play complimentary football, like we put

880
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 20: the ball in the end zone and go up a

881
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 20: point at the end, finish the game, like what was ending?

882
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 20: Like that's it, Like that's that's like, that's what we

883
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 20: need to do. Just end the game, like make them,

884
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 20: make them get us the ball back, let us fold

885
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 20: a twenty two victory, and let's end the game.

886
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 8: That's how that's like, that's how I feel.

887
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: He's not wrong, actually, because they had the offense more

888
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: than gave what it could and like I said, came

889
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: back from a double digit deficit, and especially Joe Flacco

890
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: playing on this shoulder injury and still slinging the ball

891
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: down the field, he got a huge game out of

892
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: t Higgins. Higgs got banged up at the end of

893
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: the game and left the game at the very end,

894
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: but before that he had two touchdowns, both completely insane

895
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: unreal gravity defying rules of physics on adhering to catches

896
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 4: that just did not make any sense.

897
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: And it happened twice, and so this is the whole

898
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: This is the whole thing.

899
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: They had everything set up to even continue to like,

900
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 4: if they had more time, if they got the ball

901
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 4: back even after the Colston Lovelin touchdown, who knows what

902
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 4: could have happened. This offense was scoring all day long

903
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 4: for the Bengals against.

904
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: The Bears defense.

905
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: It really was whoever gets the ball last is gonna

906
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: win this game.

907
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: They scored too fast. I thought that immediately, which is crazy.

908
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 5: Well, I think in hindsight, because we see, you know,

909
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: a quarterback nearing his forties playing in game where he's

910
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 5: out at ac joint sprain. We weren't sure. Zach Taylor

911
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 5: said it was fifty to fifty, but Joe wants to play.

912
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: He said he couldn't lift his arm over his head

913
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 2: during the week.

914
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 5: And we saw it on the Hail Mary where I

915
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 5: think probably perhaps some pharmaceuticals had started to work well.

916
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 4: Aditi said he got a shot right before the game

917
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: and then maybe had to have one at halftime too.

918
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 3: Yikes, And so.

919
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 5: Like there was that working in the Bears favor. Also,

920
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 5: t Higgins wasn't in the game for that hill. Mary

921
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 5: I would have assumed if t Higgins was still able

922
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 5: to play after what he did against the Bears defense,

923
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 5: he probably comes down with whatever ball Joe Flacco was

924
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 5: able to get down near or close to the end zone,

925
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 5: and maybe he gets in where the Bears got a

926
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 5: few gifts in that not just from the Bengals defense

927
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 5: on the day, who missed fifteen tackles. By the way,

928
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 5: they allowed one hundred and thirty five yards after miss tackles,

929
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 5: including thirty plus the Coleston Lovelin on the play that

930
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 5: winds up being the game winner. But there were so

931
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 5: many circumstances where Cincinnati could have won this game.

932
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, just add four hundred Joe Flacco.

933
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: I feel like the defense is ruining what is He's

934
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: having the Super Bowl playoff run right now and they're

935
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: not even winning games. Four hundred and seventy yards in

936
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: four touchdowns. But the Bears offense was better for most

937
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: of the Manong Guy goes for one to seventy six,

938
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: Brown goes for another thirty seven, like everything was worked.

939
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: Dj Moore at a seventeen yard touchdown run. Caleb was

940
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: effective running the ball like they were dominant in terms

941
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: of their offensive performance.

942
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was something strange about that I'll get to

943
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: in a minute, but basically, bottom line is we're gonna

944
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: have to start calling Kyle manung guy Kyle mcnung dude,

945
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: because it is a big time freaking football player, and

946
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: it's it's tough for DeAndre Swift that he's out. Obviously,

947
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson really likes to have two running backs. And

948
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 4: then Britton Brown comes in and runs for a couple

949
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 4: explosives and a touchdown and he's like the third reserve guy.

950
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: So it's like this run game is really what actually

951
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 4: is the above average borderline elite area right now of

952
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: what this Bears offensive attack is going to be, because it

953
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: was really kind of strange.

954
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: Otherwise, the passing game once again.

955
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 4: Was start stop, start stop, really great, positive, big time

956
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 4: throw is being made, followed by a lot of sort

957
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 4: of scrambling around and guys aren't open down the field.

958
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 4: To the Bengals credit on defense, but then some hesitation

959
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: from Caleb Williams on whether to run or not made

960
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: some awesome plays. But what really stood out is how

961
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson seemed to try to want to coach around that,

962
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: like Caleb Williams had two receptions, including a touchdown. He

963
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 4: ran four trick plays, one called back for penalty. Trick

964
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: plays counted for seventeen of the Bears points today. They

965
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: were running all kinds of different types of things, and

966
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 4: I wonder if it's if it's something where they're they're

967
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 4: trying to jolt their rhythm out of themselves a little bit.

968
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: They're trying to get out of their own heads and

969
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: have some fun perhaps, or maybe they just need to

970
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 4: disrupt their own rhythm. I don't know, but whatever it was,

971
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: the execution was good other than one that got called

972
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 4: back from penalty. It seems like this is a team

973
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 4: that really kind of thrives a little bit more when

974
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: they're doing sort of fun things like that on the

975
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: unscripted drives, which is really interesting to me because I

976
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: don't think that's necessarily sustainable, but maybe it's what they

977
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: do to try to just figure out how to work

978
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 4: on stuff together a little bit better in the passing game,

979
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: and it certainly worked today. Caleb Williams caught a pass

980
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 4: for a first down from Tyson Bagent, the backup quarterback.

981
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: For God's sakes, I mean, it just it was like

982
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 4: what is happening here today?

983
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 5: They go two quarterback offense and Caleb gets a touchdown

984
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 5: on the Philly Special, where you wonder like the Bears

985
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 5: are having success only when it's weird, like only when

986
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 5: it's a trick play, or when Calee will be spinning

987
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 5: around six times and throwing on the run and going

988
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 5: on these galloping runs where you know the Bears thrive

989
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 5: in the absurd.

990
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: They are an absurd organization the Bengals right now. And

991
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: this is if it if it was any other organization,

992
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: I would think that this is the profile of a

993
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: season that gets a coach fired. They are three and

994
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: six and they just don't have answers on on defense,

995
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: they go into their by they just keep losing these

996
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: close games that they could at least kept them alive.

997
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: The Bears get to five and three, and we will

998
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: stay in the a NFC and talk about a team

999
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: that's trying to stay alive in the playoff race too. Yes,

1000
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: it's the the go go forty nine ers at.

1001
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 21: This bigger.

1002
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: Bull.

1003
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: That's Nester Rosario and Kweibna twelve eighty am Brian Robinson

1004
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,479
Speaker 1: part of a great rushing attack against the Giants, and yeah,

1005
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: sure every team has a great rushing attack against the Giants,

1006
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: but it was a get right game for this forty

1007
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: nine Ers offense, especially on the ground where they get

1008
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty nine yards thirty four to twenty four. Patrick,

1009
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 1: what impressed you the most out of what the forty

1010
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: nine Ers did today, Well, they got.

1011
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: The ball back in the hands of Christian McCaffrey extensively.

1012
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 5: After really doing not too much in terms of volume

1013
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 5: for CMC and a loss to the Houston Texans. They

1014
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 5: got him the ball twenty eight tomes on the ground

1015
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 5: for one hundred and six yards and a touchdown. He

1016
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 5: also ran more routes than anyone. He had six catches

1017
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 5: for sixty seven yards and a score. Also fifty three

1018
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 5: yards on the ground for Brian Robinson Junior, which also

1019
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 5: kind of mitigated the passer from the league's leading sack

1020
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 5: artist for a time from Brian Burns. But the forty

1021
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 5: nine Ers defense also made plays that they didn't against CJ.

1022
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 5: Shroud and the Texans, including a turnover opportunity at the

1023
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 5: end of the first half where Jackson Dart was holding

1024
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 5: on for the ball for way too long. Cleveland Ferrell

1025
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 5: took it outside rush like he's six yards into the

1026
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 5: end zone and Jackson Dart steps up as if there's

1027
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 5: nobody back there. Farrell probably could have swiped for the ball,

1028
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 5: but he was just so excited to get a sack

1029
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 5: opportunity he hit him from behind. They would ultimately the

1030
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 5: forty nine ers would get the ball back with a

1031
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 5: scoring opportunity. But then comes Brian Burns where they could

1032
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 5: have just taken a ten point lead into the half,

1033
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 5: but Kyle Shanahana had mac Jones throwing Burns one got

1034
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 5: a handle the ball, The ball pops out, goes to

1035
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: Abdul Carter, whether or not you want to call it

1036
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: a whether it was a pass or a fumble. Either way,

1037
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 5: the ball never hit the ground, but Graham Gono would

1038
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 5: miss the kick, so it ultimately wouldn't matter, and then

1039
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 5: the Giants would go on to finish the game five

1040
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 5: of twelve of third down, I'll throw it down. Jackson

1041
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 5: Dart was three of eight of passes over ten or

1042
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 5: more air yards, contrasted with mccorcyl Jones going now seen

1043
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: of twenty four greg completing all but one of his

1044
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 5: passes over ten or more air yards or is this.

1045
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 5: You know, the forty nine Ers offense looked like a

1046
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 5: fully operational squad today.

1047
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: It's not even like a story at this point. Every

1048
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: week when you find out rock Perties not back, they're

1049
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: just like, okay, go go win more bonus money.

1050
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: Matt Max Jones.

1051
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: Baby wait oh did that actually happen? Or are we

1052
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: like there's a digitally creator is a weird like thing

1053
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: going on.

1054
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 2: I have a couple more of just QB's names being

1055
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: saying this season. Here's this one Matthew Stuffer, and then

1056
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: and then we have Colleen with this one Daniel Jones.

1057
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: It's just something I've flagged and I'm kind of I

1058
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna get out of Patrick.

1059
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 2: At some point, we need more of this. I want

1060
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: it dropped liberally.

1061
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: I want operatic things. I want I want some I.

1062
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: Needed that after like a Daniel Jones interception today that

1063
00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: would have been amazing.

1064
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 2: This I've been pressed by this forty nine Ers team.

1065
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: It is crazy, though, to see CMC get another thirty

1066
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: three touches.

1067
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know, I can't. It seemed like.

1068
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 5: They were trying to give him a week of Okay,

1069
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 5: we're going up against an offense that can't really do

1070
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 5: too much and Houston maybe Christian like it's going to

1071
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 5: be a little bit easier today, and then they lost,

1072
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 5: so it's like, all right, to hell with all that.

1073
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: It's you, buddy, he has the most scrimmage yards of anyone.

1074
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: Can you guess since when through nine weeks who had

1075
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: just like a monster yards from scrimmage season, Todd Gurley,

1076
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: Think about it. It's right in front of your face

1077
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: here since Christian McCaffrey in twenty nineteen. You know that's

1078
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: not fair his monster Panthers season. Although Dalvin Cook also

1079
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: had more yards at this point in the season, but

1080
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: it's like the most touches at this point through this

1081
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: part of the season of anyone in forty nine Ers history. Unfortunately,

1082
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: they did have more injury problems. Mikel Williams, their first

1083
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: round pick, had an ACL injury. Just when you like

1084
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: can't think it can get any worse for them upfront,

1085
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: they lose their next best edge rusher edge player in

1086
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: Mikeel Williams, which is really disappointing this team.

1087
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 4: They have to be buyers at the deadline, and it's

1088
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: hard because it's they really made it clear that they

1089
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 4: were just going to roll with a young and ascending

1090
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: group of guys they wanted to develop, and they were

1091
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 4: hoping to have you know, Nick Bosa healthy to help

1092
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: bring that group along and all of this, and Michael

1093
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: Williams has played well like he's grown up very quickly

1094
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 4: and has had to and they've been able to move

1095
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 4: him around a lot too.

1096
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: So that's not only the.

1097
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: Part of it that's tough that he's hurt, but also

1098
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 4: that it's multiple positions depending on the situation that he's

1099
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: playing for them, and that is tough because I feel

1100
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 4: like this team didn't want to necessarily push in on

1101
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: using resources because this was a little bit of a

1102
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: sprint rebuild, especially on the defensive side for them, But

1103
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: now they might have to because they're too good. They're

1104
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: winning too many games they could actually make a push,

1105
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 4: so they need more guys on the defensive side.

1106
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be it'll be a tricky one.

1107
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised about anything that they would do

1108
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: in the next couple of days, and ultimately most teams

1109
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: on balance aren't going to do as much as you expect.

1110
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: We do have a couple Eagles trades to talk about

1111
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: by the way we're going to wrap up all the

1112
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: trading that's been happening in transactions with Shook on the

1113
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: Monday Night recap. But let's listen to Brian Dable, who Look,

1114
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of injuries. The defense, especially the

1115
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: run defense, is terrible. It's not all on his quarterback,

1116
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: his offense, but they are two and seven for the

1117
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: third straight year under Brian Dable. Here is an interaction

1118
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: that I've only heard described from Jordan, and I can't

1119
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: wait to hear it for the first time.

1120
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: Are those are those tiers of emotion or is that just.

1121
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 12: Who's here?

1122
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 18: Are Is that what?

1123
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 8: I'm sorry to hear what you're saying.

1124
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: Walked in here.

1125
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 10: It looks like there are tears coming out of your eyes.

1126
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 8: No, that's just all No, No, it wasn't tears.

1127
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 5: What There's zero redness in Brian Dabel's eyes there at

1128
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 5: that point, like it could be a vizing commercial.

1129
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, And to me, that feels more like, shouldn't you

1130
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 4: be crying right now?

1131
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? You gotta be. You gotta be sure if someone

1132
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: was crying, I don't.

1133
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 8: Know what a bizarre interaction he.

1134
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna give dable to win here. I mean,

1135
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: his eyes are twinkling a little, but he did not

1136
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: look like a man who had just emoted much of

1137
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: anything other than.

1138
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: No, he's clearly dead in side.

1139
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: See the I mean, he's got a lot of emotions,

1140
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: but I don't think he.

1141
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 2: Was crying scale.

1142
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 8: That's jovial. They just lost.

1143
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, weird.

1144
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: Listen.

1145
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 4: I feel like if you I always trust to beat reporters. Okay,

1146
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 4: so if if whoever asked that question saw him saw

1147
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: a man cry, then you saw a man cry, all right, now,

1148
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 4: that man can did not, I said, tears, that's within

1149
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: his right.

1150
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm always just like a feel your feelings, girlly.

1151
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: Though he did respond in a way that you would

1152
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: respond if you had been crying.

1153
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: Oh wait what?

1154
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 8: Oh me?

1155
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: He literally asked who is crying? And then he was like, I.

1156
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: Didn't hear you. Well, we'll break this down further.

1157
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: Like that, I didn't hear you.

1158
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,479
Speaker 4: As a classic, I need a second to think about

1159
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 4: what I want to respond to this.

1160
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 5: I think he was so shocked by the absurdity of

1161
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 5: the sequence that he was legitian.

1162
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: Was I crying and I just blocked out this.

1163
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: Team is this team is dead? It's unfortunate.

1164
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: We're back to like Wandell Robinson getting eleven targets for

1165
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: forty six yards, or back to Jackson darts like the

1166
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: leading rusher. Even the defensive wine isn't doing anything back

1167
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: Jones has a you know, he's getting rid of the

1168
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: ball so quickly.

1169
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 3: This is how bad it's gotten.

1170
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: My dear friend Charlotte Carroll, who covers the Giants, did

1171
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 4: not ask that question. Covers the Giants for the athletic

1172
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 4: Wayward camera Man's like accidentally smacked her in the head

1173
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 4: with his camera outside of a scrum. Today's big ice

1174
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 4: pack got the selfie of the big ice pack on

1175
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: her head. That's how bad it's gotten in the meadow lands.

1176
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 4: That's where we're at it. They're taking out the reporters.

1177
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: At this time.

1178
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: It's just too familiar. Unfortunately, losing becoming familiar to the

1179
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints as well. Although they haven't had a

1180
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: season quite like this in a long time, the Rams

1181
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: nically haven't had a season quite like this in a

1182
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: long time either. A fast start for the hometown team

1183
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: here right across the street.

1184
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: Tied end right into the boundary.

1185
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 9: Three receivers left from that group Nikoua in motion out

1186
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 9: to snap play action.

1187
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 17: Stafford on platform, sets the laces and drives one.

1188
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 18: Down the right sideline cut by Nakula. Touch down away

1189
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 18: he knocks over the pylon on a dazzling darts from

1190
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 18: Matthew Stafford thirty nine yards in La smashing the easy button.

1191
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 10: Three touchdowns on the board in the first half.

1192
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 22: Let's just Afford strikes again.

1193
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 9: Welcome back pookin.

1194
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: The kuah ooh, smashing the easy button, jab long with

1195
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: the good stuff on k SPN.

1196
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll call it the year candidate Rams roll thirty

1197
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: four to ten.

1198
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: It was a great weekend for the uh the Rams Dodgers.

1199
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: Lover in your life, like my wife.

1200
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: Emmica, tell me, Jordan, what you found most interesting in

1201
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: a completely one sided.

1202
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: Game that I guess we could have seen coming.

1203
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, we did, Yes, we did.

1204
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: I spent the whole morning thinking we had picked the

1205
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: Packers as our survivor and that we had lost.

1206
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 4: Well, Greg, I could tell you what I found most

1207
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 4: interesting about this absolute tail whooping at the hands of

1208
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 4: the La Rams.

1209
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: But why tell you when I could tell you in

1210
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: a poem?

1211
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, A Matthew.

1212
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: Stafford no look dig a touchdown pass to Big Rig Higgs.

1213
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: Heavy personnel at a statistical high, a field goal unit

1214
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: that inspires deep size, a defense that is a pass

1215
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 4: rushing bazooka.

1216
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: Can we please, at.

1217
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 4: All costs protect Puka Nikua. And that's what happened today

1218
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 4: in the Rams game.

1219
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very good. That's how you know it was

1220
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: a blowout. Jordan had time.

1221
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: To write a whole poem.

1222
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: Write a poem.

1223
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1224
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: Pokin Akua left.

1225
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: The game with a chest injury after completing the most

1226
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: common play in the Sean McVay playbook, fourth and one sweep,

1227
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: fourth and one sweep to his rugged wide receiver. Which

1228
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to say, like, oh I put him at

1229
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: risk in this game. It was fairly early in the game.

1230
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it is. What Pukinikua does is play content.

1231
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like the that's the we are going to

1232
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 4: convert this play all year for them, So I don't

1233
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 4: have any issue with the play call there. But yeah,

1234
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: I want to talk about the heavy personnel. The Rams

1235
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 4: were thirteen personnel per next Gen I'm thirty five seventy

1236
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 4: seven offensive plays and they had a fifty one percent

1237
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 4: success rate four touchdowns out of this personnel grouping. All

1238
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 4: four of their tight ends at different points were activated,

1239
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 4: including the rookie Terrence Ferguson, who made some big plays.

1240
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 4: This is exactly what they want to show that they

1241
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 4: can do if they're just trying to close a game

1242
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 4: immediately out of the gate, which they knew they could

1243
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: do against this sort of woebegone Saints team, and they

1244
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: wanted to try to do this. Take all the teeth

1245
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 4: out of any sort of defensive scheme that Seaw mcfay's

1246
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 4: former colleague Brandon Staley might have been trying to cook

1247
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: up against them. Just none of that was even a

1248
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 4: They was not feasible for the Saints out of the

1249
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: gate because they mashed them out of thirteen personnel all game.

1250
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 4: It's like this is a multiple team in the best way,

1251
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: because this is a November multiple team. It's not just

1252
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 4: the sort of style points team that we've seen in

1253
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: the past from the rams, like this is a heavy,

1254
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: run it up, your you know what team. Right now,

1255
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 4: they're a great team.

1256
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: Trying not to get beat there. George, I know, go up.

1257
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm always so worried about that.

1258
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: You found out, Yeah, it can't it can't go in.

1259
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 1: You can say it, but it can't go It can't

1260
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: be going in and.

1261
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 23: It was going up, so like, yeah, so that that

1262
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 23: would get you beaved one hundred percent of the time

1263
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 23: where you know, we can't even say the name of

1264
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 23: the ideal segment there because it would lead to a

1265
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 23: beef Eric I to have to do any more excess work.

1266
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 8: But the start for Tyler Shuck.

1267
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 5: Look good in spots where you know, things got protected

1268
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 5: up and Shuck was able to find both Chris o'lave

1269
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 5: and Rashid Shahid offers some big completions, a nice, relatively

1270
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 5: nice Juwan Johnson game, but it was just there's a

1271
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 5: talent disparity. You know, the touch over matched in multiple

1272
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 5: spots where this game was was over early, and despite that,

1273
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford was taking steps four minutes to go for

1274
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 5: some reason.

1275
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 8: I don't know why, but.

1276
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a while where it sad. Saints were

1277
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: getting a lot of pats on the back for you know,

1278
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: if you watch them every week, they're like they're actually

1279
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: looking pretty competitive in everything, and then now that's that's gone.

1280
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 8: This is the least composing.

1281
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: That was your Jordan impression. I feel like you could

1282
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 4: have given it more effort, like.

1283
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: We've also, I've said that in a million time.

1284
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: I feel like every person that covers football has kind

1285
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: of made that point this year.

1286
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: Unfortunately it hasn't been true. The last couple of weeks.

1287
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 4: Tyler Shock did make a couple of good throws, but

1288
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 4: they could not do anything consistently. They made some really

1289
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 4: strange calls. They had Taysom Hill in shotgun on the

1290
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 4: fourth and goal, uh so basically saying to the entire world, Hey,

1291
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 4: the quarterback's going to run it, and then they put

1292
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 4: him in the gun further away from the goal line

1293
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 4: than maybe he should be in that play. I do

1294
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 4: want to actually shout out because I've been talking about

1295
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 4: the Rams secondary, particularly on the perimeter, as really one

1296
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 4: of the few weaknesses that this defense has had. And

1297
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 4: I'm really impressed with Emmanuel Forbes and how he's developed.

1298
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 4: And I remember last season when Emmanuel Forbes got to

1299
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: the Rams as a late season acquisition after a really

1300
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 4: bad experience with the Commanders, and I was walking over

1301
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 4: to the locker room and Aubrey Pleasant, the DB's coach,

1302
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: came out of the cafeteria era area, and I said Hey,

1303
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 4: what do you think about Emmanuel Forbes? And he stopped

1304
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 4: and he looked at me and he smiled, and he

1305
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: goes just watch. They were so confident in him finally

1306
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 4: putting all of this together, and they need him to

1307
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: do it with a Kello Witherspoon out and Darius Williams

1308
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 4: banged up. He had three pass deflections and interception in

1309
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. But to me, most impressive because he

1310
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 4: is a narrowly built man, right, and so his third

1311
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 4: down hit on Taysom Hill in space where you have

1312
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 4: to come down and crash like they always want their

1313
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 4: perimeter corners to do.

1314
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 3: He had a great game.

1315
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to give him a little kudos

1316
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 4: because I've been pretty hard on that ram secondary over

1317
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 4: the last several weeks.

1318
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the luxury.

1319
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: They didn't even play Roger McCreery at cornerback in this game.

1320
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: He did play on special teams. So they just acquired

1321
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: via trade because they didn't need to. And they only

1322
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: had forty total snaps on defense, so they'll be nice

1323
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: and fresh for next week. You said they're built for

1324
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: late in the season. That's what I was referring to

1325
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: at the beginning, saying we haven't seen Rams seasons like

1326
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: this because they've so often been having to catch up

1327
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: after a slow start. But they're six and two, that's

1328
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: the first n win of the year, and yet they

1329
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: prevent the Saints from running the ball at all. The

1330
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: Saints had a seven percent success rate while the Rams

1331
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: ran for one hundred and seventy one yards. You do

1332
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: not see that very often. Let's stick in Los Angeles

1333
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: and talk about the team on the road today, the

1334
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: Chargers trying to get another victory.

1335
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 22: Here he is, Herbert takes the toss, rolls to his

1336
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 22: right looking for a Conkey, and.

1337
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 11: Herbert in the eisode held in fact touchdown Chargers Justin

1338
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 11: Herbert's first rushing touchdown of the season, the thirteenth of

1339
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 11: his career, and a little bit of history here, dj

1340
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 11: he is now tied Hall of Fame quarterback John Adel

1341
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 11: for the most such performances in Charger history.

1342
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 22: The twelfth time he's thrown hand rushed for one.

1343
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: Absolute style by Justin Herbert.

1344
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: He's out how when he did that slide.

1345
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: I thought of you immediately, Jordan, just how he's been

1346
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: just throwing like a little extra and we could have

1347
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: run that highlight a little extra and given Daniel Jeremiah

1348
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: some love, but no, Eric just shut him down. We

1349
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: do have a forties and free agents. With DJ coming

1350
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: up later this week, maybe we'll talk Chargers. They win

1351
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty in a game that probably shouldn't

1352
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: have been as close. Herbert throws a pick six right

1353
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: off the bat to Mary d k who has a chance,

1354
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: I think to be the All Pro returner this year.

1355
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: Great kick returner, and today he had a punt return touchdown,

1356
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: gets fourteen points on the board for the Titans, but

1357
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: the Chargers win anyways, and that slide touchdown for Herbert,

1358
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: to me just shows what this game was all about.

1359
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: It was a ninety nine yard drive after they stuffed

1360
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: the Titans over and over on the goal line, and

1361
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: that's not a defense that you think is going to

1362
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: be able to do that, but they were just tougher

1363
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: than the tight and stuff him a couple times. And

1364
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: on that ninety nine yard drive, Herbert at one point

1365
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: decides to try to pick up a first down by

1366
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: taking on head first a defensive end and falling forward

1367
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: a solid four like yards like he got the leverage

1368
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: on the defensive end of the Titans and picked up

1369
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen yards. He had a one hundred percent

1370
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: success rate running the ball today, eight for eight, one

1371
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: hundred percent until his kneel down at the very end

1372
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: of the game. And as part of that ninety nine

1373
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: yard drive also a third and four where he just

1374
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: completes an absolutely beautiful back shoulder throw down the field

1375
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: to Quinton Johnston. So to me, this was, hey, Herbo,

1376
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: just just go and like destroy mode, and that is

1377
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: how we will win a game where unfortunately, the injury

1378
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: to Joe allt to me, just hangs over this team.

1379
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 10: Now.

1380
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so it's going to have to be more

1381
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 5: of Herbo playing destructo ball, getting out on the edge

1382
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 5: and having those run plays where you know you're glad

1383
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 5: to see Quentin Johnston and get back on the end

1384
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 5: zone actually get another catch because he got shut out

1385
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 5: last week and I believe the week before that as well.

1386
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 8: But it's the.

1387
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 5: Injuries are mounting on the offensive line, and they already

1388
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 5: have been coming into the season where you know they've

1389
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 5: they've already made the adjustments and now you've got to

1390
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 5: make an adjustment with the adjustments.

1391
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: So he Joe alt was carted off the field with

1392
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: an ankle injury, which is being reported as a high

1393
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: ankle sprain, but it sounds like this could be one

1394
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: that requires surgery more serious. He already, you know, missed

1395
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: so much time. They also lost their starting right tackle today,

1396
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Hart. Earlier in the game, Herbert was under so

1397
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: much pressure even before Alt left, and I'm thinking, man like,

1398
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: even against the Titans, and it wasn't like him holding

1399
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: the ball. It was Dramont Jones and I forget who

1400
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: the other rusher was was just dominating with quick pressures.

1401
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: They had like seven in the first quarter and a half.

1402
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking this is not sustainable. But also it

1403
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: was kind of fun to watch. It was kind of

1404
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: an incredible Herbert performance. When you go back to watch.

1405
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 4: This, yeah, I like it, and I hate it for him,

1406
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 4: right because you know that this is not sustainable, especially

1407
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 4: towards the postseason. You know he is not in his

1408
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: later years. He's just entering his prime in my opinion.

1409
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 4: But you still want to avoid him having to take

1410
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 4: those hits. You still want to avoid putting him in

1411
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 4: these crazy stressful situations. This is a team that when

1412
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: it has it all together, and when Joe All especially

1413
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 4: is such a huge difference maker on the field. When

1414
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 4: they're playing the type of football they want to play,

1415
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 4: it is legitimately gorgeous in like a fear inspiring way

1416
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 4: because of a who the quarterback is and be the

1417
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 4: things they can do on the ground and in their

1418
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 4: blocking surface, and it just it it seems unfair, honestly,

1419
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 4: because it's like they have you see that the theory

1420
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 4: and the ideation and what they're capable of, and it's

1421
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 4: not their it's not even their fault that this just

1422
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 4: keeps happening to them.

1423
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: I was saying for so long, like every win they

1424
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: get before Joe out comes back is going to cet

1425
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: out double. And now we're in a position where we

1426
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: don't know when he's going to be back. So this

1427
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: was a pyrrhic victory. They get to six and three.

1428
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: It was important to pocket it, and they did it

1429
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: on a day where like, you know, Herbert's time to throw,

1430
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: he's holding onto the ball forever. He's taken a lot

1431
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: of sacks, but he's also throwing the ball down to

1432
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: the field and making awesome plays. And your guy Trey Harris,

1433
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 1: he's got he's got a little shit to him. Big

1434
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: play where he runs over and carries three Titans defenders

1435
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: to pick up a big first down late. I also

1436
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: just have to ask Mike McCoy, their interim head coach,

1437
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: why are you doing so many direct snaps to your

1438
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: running backs? I think they went oh for five on

1439
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: it today. Kim Ward is athletic, Kim Word is good,

1440
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: your regular running game is good. Taji Spears looks awesome today.

1441
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: And Tony Pollard's over five yards per carry. And for

1442
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: whatever reason, in every big spot of this game, they

1443
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: did a direct snap to the running back and I

1444
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: think it went oh for four or five.

1445
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 2: I it was just it was driving me crazy.

1446
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: Uh sorry to the Titans one and eight to here

1447
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: there Matt mney Smith called, just for the hell of it,

1448
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: that Quentin Johnston catch is on the borderline to me,

1449
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: a throw of the year. It's probably not there, but

1450
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: it was just so beautiful. I wanted it to be

1451
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: part of this show.

1452
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 22: To Herbert, they rushed four standing tall to the end,

1453
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 22: Sol looking for que touchdown.

1454
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 11: Hugers twenty yards, Herbert to Johnston for Q his sixth

1455
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 11: touchdown of the season for Herbert is eighteenth.

1456
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 2: Love that man.

1457
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:33,879
Speaker 3: Brilliant.

1458
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 2: It was a fun game. This was fun.

1459
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: This is the part of the show where I say

1460
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: goodbye to you guys, and then we welcome in Nick Zook.

1461
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do tonight, Jordan watch more football? Okay, yes, that's.

1462
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 8: A good watch some football.

1463
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 5: Also gonna finalize the conversation, ohts on wins?

1464
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: What atis by a pro?

1465
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: We'll be back after the break to yes about the

1466
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: biggest upset on this.

1467
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 24: Sete Fitzgerald hit the game winner against Dallas from thirty three.

1468
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 24: Heret lambeau from forty nine for the win. Chanson the snap,

1469
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 24: Martin the hoole. Fitzgerald drives the leg, the kick is up.

1470
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: It is good.

1471
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 24: Ryan Fitzgerald delivers and Carolina silences lambeau Field.

1472
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: Oo the Panthers.

1473
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: They looked at my prediction of thirty three to eleven

1474
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: for this.

1475
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: Game and they stuck it in my ear.

1476
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: That was a Nie Shroff on WRFX. Maybe the two

1477
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: biggest upsets of the year, Shook have both taken place

1478
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field. I should have checked this. Very similar scores.

1479
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: This one was sixteen to thirteen Panthers. About a month

1480
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: and a half after the Browns stunned the Packers and

1481
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: he had knocked them out of the one seed in

1482
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: the NFC. How did this happen?

1483
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 10: Well, that Brown's one was in Cleveland, but that's neither

1484
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 10: here nor there.

1485
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 25: The big part about this is the fact that the

1486
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 25: Packers wasted so many opportunities and the Panthers capitalized. And

1487
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 25: Rico Daddle proved himself as the superior back in the

1488
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 25: Panthers backfield, and he carried the ball twenty five times

1489
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 25: for one hundred and thirty yards and two touchdowns, and

1490
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 25: he paced this offense and Bryce Jong only had to

1491
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 25: complete eleven passes, and their defense played phenomenally in the

1492
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 25: biggest spots. And everybody's gonna paint this as the Packers

1493
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 25: playing with their food and you know, committing a number

1494
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 25: of unforgivable mistakes and football crimes. And that's all fine,

1495
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 25: But let's give the Panthers some credit because they battled

1496
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 25: their tails off. They got waxed last week by the

1497
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 25: Buffalo Bills. They had every reason in the world to

1498
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 25: get on the plane this week and lay down again.

1499
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 10: The Packers. They did the exact opposite and come away victorious.

1500
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean, and they did it.

1501
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: And this is I'm really going to be leaning on

1502
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: you here because I only saw very little of this game,

1503
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: but they did it in a day that you know,

1504
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: Bryce Young ends up with like one hundred yards and

1505
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: a total growner of an interception, And it really shows

1506
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: a couple things. How their running game is, you know,

1507
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: it travels, and it's when it's rolling, one of the

1508
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: best in the league. And that the defensive improvement, even

1509
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: if it's not going to be every week, is real

1510
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 1: to the point where they could even have a game

1511
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: like this. How did the Packers only end up with

1512
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: thirteen points in this game?

1513
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 25: Well, they fubbled away their first possession on a very

1514
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 25: impressive promising an impressive drive, then they settle for a

1515
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 25: field goal in their next two trips into Panthers territory,

1516
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 25: and essentially they wasted some opportunities to put touchdowns on

1517
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 25: the board because they couldn't convert. And you have to

1518
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 25: give credit to the Panthers defense for stading tall in

1519
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 25: those situations. But it's not like the Packers couldn't move

1520
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 25: the football. They just couldn't finish drives. And whether it

1521
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 25: was some mystifying play calling the turnover early or the

1522
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 25: fourth down in which it's fourth and eight and they're

1523
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 25: feeling a little desperate and nobody's open and the Panthers

1524
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 25: are playing fantastic coverage all the way through the scrabble drill,

1525
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 25: Jordan Love holds on the ball for eleven and a

1526
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 25: half seconds before he gets rid of it like.

1527
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 10: This, this is what happened, Like, yeah, the Panthers. The

1528
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 10: Packers let the Panthers stay in the game early.

1529
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 25: They did kind of play with their food in the

1530
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 25: first half, and that's fine. But when the second half arrived,

1531
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 25: they realized, oh, this is we can't just flip a switch.

1532
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 25: We can't do what we did against Pittsburgh. This this

1533
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 25: competition that we're facing today is a little bit tougher.

1534
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 25: The Panthers brought the fight to the Packers. The Packers

1535
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 25: kind of took the field as if, all right, well

1536
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 25: we're playing Carolina, will be fine, and they were not fine.

1537
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the success rate, you know, dropping back to pass

1538
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: only forty four percent, which is not great for them.

1539
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 1: Jordan Love does not get a touchdown in this game,

1540
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: twenty six or thirty seven, two hundred and seventy three yards.

1541
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: And you mentioned that play, which which was symbolic of

1542
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: the day. Let's let's listen to it because it was

1543
01:13:58,560 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: a journey.

1544
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,879
Speaker 15: Fourth down at eight, here we go with the Carolina thirteen.

1545
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 15: Loving the shotgun, Wilson to his left, three receivers right,

1546
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 15: muskrat tight end, left side of the line, snap to Love.

1547
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 15: Love scrambles to his right, looking at by time, still looking.

1548
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 15: Strambles back the other way. Love on the run, still

1549
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 15: looking Watson right side.

1550
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 8: Of the end zone.

1551
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: It's trucked in the end zone incomplete. I think we

1552
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,480
Speaker 2: got to put that on Worse Throw of the Year nominee.

1553
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 25: Now he throws it and I'm thinking, like, there's gotta

1554
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 25: be someone there, and then the camera pans and I'm like,

1555
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 25: there's nobody there.

1556
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: Well, he's pointing, and I'd have to go watch the dots.

1557
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 1: He's pointing for the receiver to run at that angle.

1558
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: There is a receiver at the back of the end

1559
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: zone there. I think he might I think he might

1560
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: have gone out of bounds, and so he knew he

1561
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: was done anyway. So he's thinking the receiver is gonna

1562
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: maybe go try to win a jump ball there.

1563
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 2: But it's absolutely rough. We're throwing. Put it on the

1564
01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: list there.

1565
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 25: I gotta give a shout out to the Panthers defense

1566
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,480
Speaker 25: pursuing Jordan Love on that play Nick Gorton in particular,

1567
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 25: because I watch him go left and I'm watching this

1568
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 25: lab and I'm like, get at from Scrton, you're there,

1569
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 25: You're this type of player, and then he changes direction

1570
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 25: and goes left and I'm like, okay, so Gorton's lost. Oh wait,

1571
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 25: they're scorting again. Sixty seven point six yards traveled on

1572
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 25: that play.

1573
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 2: Wow, that is absolutely nuts.

1574
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: And yeah, he only ends up with two pressures on

1575
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: the day, but they do get four from Tshaun Wharton

1576
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: right after I kind of called him out during the

1577
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: week as not having a great season as a free

1578
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: agent pickup. And on the other side, the Packers only

1579
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: get a couple of quick pressures in large part I

1580
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: would assume because Bryce Song's getting rid of the ball

1581
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: quickly and they're just running the.

1582
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 25: Ball yep, yep, and Avantoni man Rico Daddle has the

1583
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 25: difference between the running game with Chuba Hubbard versus Rico

1584
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 25: Daddles night and day. Like, I can't believe that it

1585
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 25: took Dave Canalis this long to commit to Rico Daddle,

1586
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 25: who outouched Hubbard I think was twenty seven to five.

1587
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 25: That is your offense. That's what you should be doubt

1588
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 25: Ole runs with such violence and burst.

1589
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 10: This should be your lead back.

1590
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 25: And he can pace the offense and keep them in

1591
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 25: games like he did today.

1592
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: Well, it's a bad job by me not mentioning until

1593
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: now that Tucker Craft left this game with a potential

1594
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: torn acl because that moving forward is the biggest deal. Like, yeah,

1595
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: it's not great for the Packers to take this second loss.

1596
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: Remember they have the tie as well. But that's the

1597
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: guy when we're talking about, well, do the Packers really

1598
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: have like a guy who can can change how you're

1599
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: going to play them. Yeah, Christian Watson offers something that

1600
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: other players on that team doesn't, and he had a

1601
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: fifty yard plus catch today, But Kraft is the guy.

1602
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 25: And there's also the issue that when Craft is out

1603
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 25: of the mix, Jordan Love trusts Christian Watson a little

1604
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 25: bit too much. He threw a pass into triple coverage

1605
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 25: that got picked off today, trying to go deep to

1606
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 25: Christian Watson like they were in a game where they

1607
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 25: were trying to earn the shot, play, create the big play,

1608
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 25: force the big play, And I worry without Craft in

1609
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 25: the mix, Watson's involvement, like love, cannot rely on him

1610
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 25: heavily too much if Craft is not in the mix.

1611
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 25: So they're gonna have to kind of recalibrate if they

1612
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 25: don't have Craft available the rest of the year.

1613
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is an absolute bummer, a killer. And there's

1614
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 1: still atop the division by half a game over Detroit.

1615
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: But they're letting Chicago back in, They're letting Minnesota back in,

1616
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: and I do think that lowers the ceiling just a

1617
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: little bit. And I'm not like that shocked because to

1618
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: quote Walker Rosenthal, my son, if Jordan was here, she'd

1619
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: be should be marking, marking it down. I asked what

1620
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: he thought of the Packers' uniforms today and he said,

1621
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,480
Speaker 1: it looks like my poop to Houston.

1622
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 21: Denver three for four on two point conversions. Nix is

1623
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 21: under center, Sutton wide left. Here comes Pat Bryant in

1624
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,799
Speaker 21: motion from right to left. Now he goes back, Sutton pumps,

1625
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 21: rolls the ball to the end zone.

1626
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 14: Catch, two point conversion is good. That's Troy Franklin with

1627
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 14: the catch. Kaylin Bullock on the coverage. I said, we've

1628
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 14: seen it before with this Broncos offense and Bon Knicks

1629
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 14: at the helm. They've got a little bit of magic

1630
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 14: to them in the fourth quarter, and we've seen it early.

1631
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: We have seen it. That was Dave Logan on KOA.

1632
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's a weird game when we go with

1633
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: a two point conversion to tie it at fifteen as

1634
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: the highlight. But it was my choice, you know, tick

1635
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,520
Speaker 1: of these chip shot field goals to win it. We've

1636
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: heard it once, We've heard a thousand times, and I

1637
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: think the two point conversion tells the story here, Shook

1638
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: because they've hit so many of them this year, literally

1639
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: two point conversions that mattered in getting wins. That's now

1640
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: five to one score win for the Broncos. He've been

1641
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,520
Speaker 1: in these tight games and even when Bonnicks is struggling,

1642
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: they just fine enough to win it at the end,

1643
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 1: eighteen to fifteen, the Broncos get it done.

1644
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1645
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 25: This is a game that was very icative of the

1646
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 25: way the Broncos offense is operated for most of the season,

1647
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 25: save for their performance against the Cowboys last week, in

1648
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 25: that they did not find a rhythm until it really

1649
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 25: mattered in the fourth quarter, and they were very much

1650
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 25: a quick strike offense. Like the fact that they were

1651
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 25: even in this game in halftime, because you go into

1652
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 25: halftime they're trailing twelve to seven. They've possessed the ball

1653
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 25: for like seven and a half minutes. That's how badly

1654
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 25: they were out possessed by Houston in the first half.

1655
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 25: So they didn't have opportunities, But they also didn't opportunities

1656
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,799
Speaker 25: because they weren't giving themselves any because they weren't sustaining drives.

1657
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 25: But when they did score, it was a quick pass

1658
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 25: to Courtland Sutton down the side, and it was actually

1659
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 25: a series of passes in which Nick shows off his

1660
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 25: arm and it ends up in the hands of Sutton.

1661
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 25: They score again in the second half, passed to RJ.

1662
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 25: Harvey and a wheel rout out of the backfield. He

1663
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 25: burns Henry Tote and gets in the end zone for

1664
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 25: a touchdown. Like they didn't need to have the ball

1665
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 25: that long because they can do this. It's also that

1666
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 25: they were in a war of attrition in the fourth quarter.

1667
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 25: They forced like five straight punts from the Texans, and

1668
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 25: it looked like the Broncos were not going to come

1669
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 25: close to taking the lead in this game. We were

1670
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 25: headed for overtime until Nicks dialed up the fourth quarter

1671
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 25: Magic had a long scrambled, I had one more scrambled.

1672
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 8: JK.

1673
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 10: Dobbins with a long run, You hit the chip.

1674
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 25: Shot field goal, you win the game that you thought, Yeah,

1675
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 25: I don't even know if there's ever going to be

1676
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 25: a resolution to this game.

1677
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 10: That is who the Broncos are.

1678
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 25: They don't win pretty, but they still win and they

1679
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 25: always do it in the fourth quarter.

1680
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: That is outrageous. Six straight punts to end the game

1681
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 1: for the Texans in the end in a game where

1682
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm counting it and I think they had fifteen drives

1683
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: and it's just outrageous and it's so disappointing because they

1684
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: started the game looking better and I know they were

1685
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,440
Speaker 1: long drives and that end up with field goal attempts,

1686
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, taking seven and a half minutes off the

1687
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: clock and then another eight play drive where they get

1688
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: the field goal.

1689
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 2: But they look better when CJ. Stroud was in the game.

1690
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: But c J.

1691
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: Stroud Leaves was tested for a concussion, did not come back.

1692
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: His mom did send out, you know, an Instagram post

1693
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: later so that CJ is good and he's smiling, So

1694
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 1: you hope it's not something that's like a long term problem.

1695
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: But they're obviously not going to win many games with

1696
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: Davis Mills at quarterback, and it's just disappointing because this

1697
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: defense is playing its heart out week after week and

1698
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: they're three and five.

1699
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 25: Yeah yeah, Kalin Bulloch made a nice interception deep, you know,

1700
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 25: playing essentially playing center field. They did everything that they

1701
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 25: should defensively to keep the Texans in the game and

1702
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 25: give them a chance to win.

1703
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 10: But again, I.

1704
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 25: Had horrors and visions of Week two, the loss to

1705
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 25: Tampa Bay, where you're on the goal line and you're

1706
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 25: trying to slam it into a brick wall and you

1707
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,440
Speaker 25: can't get in the end zone. They did that again twice.

1708
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 25: They did it two handoffs Nick Chubb, one to British Brooks.

1709
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 25: Then you get flagged for a false start ursery, the

1710
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 25: rookie gets flagged for a false start.

1711
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 10: You end up settling for a field goal. You get

1712
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 10: back down there later.

1713
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 25: Davis Mills is in a quarterback, has one of the

1714
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 25: worst quarterbacksneak attempts I've seen all season, although I saw

1715
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 25: a worst one last week in a different game.

1716
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 10: And again they settled for a field goal. They missed

1717
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 10: a field goal like it was just the.

1718
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 25: Kymi Fairborne Fairburans kicks that went in barely went in today.

1719
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 25: They it's such a challenge with this offense, and it

1720
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 25: is so it's just an an injustice to this defense,

1721
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 25: like you said, because the defense is so good. Yeah,

1722
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 25: I may keep them in these games, and they're just

1723
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 25: not going to be able to do enough to keep

1724
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 25: them in there without CG.

1725
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the best offense for the Broncos passes out

1726
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,959
Speaker 1: of the backfield to Harvey, who leads them in receiving.

1727
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 1: At one point, bo Nicks I wrote this down was

1728
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: seven for nineteen for eighty one yards. But when it's

1729
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: money time, he gets the scramble lay, he hits a

1730
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: third and eleven pass lay. Like it just keeps happening

1731
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 1: this way despite the inefficiency. Six targets for Courtland sutten,

1732
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: he catches one, ten targets for Troy Franklin, he catches four,

1733
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,520
Speaker 1: and the Broncos don't really care because they just keep.

1734
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 2: Catching W's seven and two.

1735
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: And with the Chiefs loss, you know, a couple games

1736
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: ahead of Kansas City. I know, I know the Chargers

1737
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: are only one back, but I think they're loving that

1738
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: they're two games up on the Chargers and I'm not

1739
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: crossing off the Texans at three and five, but they

1740
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: need CG. Stroud to get back healthy, and they got

1741
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: to figure out how to get a yard when they

1742
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: absolutely need it. You know who else doesn't get a

1743
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: yard when they need it? The Las Vegas Raiders, or

1744
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: to be more specific, at the end of this game,

1745
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:07,879
Speaker 1: two yards.

1746
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 16: Here we go from the two yard line to two

1747
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 16: point converge out of town. Gino Smith drops, looks, looks.

1748
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:14,879
Speaker 2: Looks, pump fake.

1749
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 18: Five, look down, look down, hook down.

1750
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 2: Come on, Hevilton, knock it down.

1751
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 26: It's so good to Jaguars win it so Jeff warts witted?

1752
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: How good is that?

1753
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Frank Franzi, You've gotta have

1754
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: a game winning play. Let's give us some energy. Let's

1755
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: have a voice crack. Good job by the spotter in

1756
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: that radio booth, unless it was Frank picking that up quickly,

1757
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: getting Devon Hamilton's name out really quickly, identifying, because man,

1758
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: I swear Devon Hamilton must be three hundred and twenty pounds,

1759
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: but it felt like he was in the air forever.

1760
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,799
Speaker 1: He's just a tall man because he was his hands

1761
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 1: were up for like four seconds.

1762
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: I was like, Gino, don't you do? You see him?

1763
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 2: But it's not to be.

1764
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: The Jaguars win a crazy game thirty to twenty nine.

1765
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: It was nine to six entering the fourth quarter, and

1766
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: the game ended overtime.

1767
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: Thirty to twenty nine.

1768
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: Both Gino Smith and Trevor Lawrence, who've taken a lot

1769
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: of slings and arrows this year, had about six straight

1770
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 1: legacy drives where they ended in touchdowns. Unfortunately, Gino needed

1771
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: a two point or two to end it. Pete Carroll

1772
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: thankfully didn't want the tie. What do you even make

1773
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: of this game and the Jaguars escaping and now five

1774
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: and three on the season, What.

1775
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 10: Do I make of it?

1776
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 25: I think the Jaguars demonstrated that you can, in fact,

1777
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 25: kee contributions from absolutely everybody and win a one point

1778
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 25: game on the road, a game that you did nothing

1779
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 25: in the first half except Trevor threw a pick.

1780
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 10: In the end zone to Isaiah Poulam.

1781
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 25: Now, and yet Cam Little hits a sixty eight yard

1782
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 25: field goal, by the way, NFL new record longest field

1783
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 25: goal to give you three points going into half. A

1784
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 25: little bit of life, right, and then you come out

1785
01:24:54,560 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 25: of halftime and you go I believe you go field goal, touchdown, touchdown, goal,

1786
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 25: touchdown the rest of the game. And they needed every

1787
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 25: single one of those scorers to keep pace with the

1788
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 25: Raiders offense that suddenly found a way to move the

1789
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 25: football itself when they go field goal, touchdown, touchdown, end

1790
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 25: of the of regulation, touchdown. Thirteen points scored in overtime,

1791
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 25: most points ever scored in overtime, first time both teams

1792
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 25: have scored a touchdown in overtime with these new rules.

1793
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 25: This was a game that was sleepy and was suddenly

1794
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 25: wide awake and just rolling on energy drinks through the

1795
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 25: fourth quarter and overtime. And when it comes to the

1796
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 25: Jaguars like they traves etn really ran the ball well,

1797
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 25: facial Tooton ran the ball, you know, aggressively, especially getting

1798
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,919
Speaker 25: to the end zone in the second half. Parker Washington

1799
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 25: was there to make all these catches underneath, you know,

1800
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 25: just no matter where he was, his hands were great.

1801
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 10: He was very consistent.

1802
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 25: Brian Thomas Junior not a big factor in this game,

1803
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 25: but catches a huge pass in the fourth quarter to

1804
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 25: get the Jags in field goal range.

1805
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 10: For Little to hit that field goal.

1806
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 25: Logan cooked, the punter has to take a low snap

1807
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 25: and recover the low snap just in time for Kim

1808
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,520
Speaker 25: Little to hit the game tying field goal. Complete contributions

1809
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 25: from everybody offense, special teams, a little bit of defense.

1810
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 10: They come away with the one.

1811
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're back to MESSI fun for this Jaguars team. Now,

1812
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: Brian tapis junior and ankle injury. He did return, Did

1813
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: he finish the game?

1814
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: Do you know?

1815
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 21: Did?

1816
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 10: He returned and made that catch?

1817
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 25: But then after that there was basically no like real

1818
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 25: contributions from him.

1819
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: So Parker Washington is their wide receiver one in this game. Look,

1820
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: they did not have much of a pass rush on

1821
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: Gino Smith, who throws four touchdowns and has two hundred

1822
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: and eighty four yards, and whenever he needed to play

1823
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: late he got it and they almost all were to

1824
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 1: brock Bowers.

1825
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: What a difference.

1826
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: Brock Bowers makes a healthy brock Bowers twelve for one

1827
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 1: to twenty seven and three touchdowns, and on that last

1828
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: touchdown that he had not not the one in overtime,

1829
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: rather the one at the end of regulation. And yet

1830
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: they scored with under two minutes to go to take

1831
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: the lead by three man.

1832
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: The juice that he has.

1833
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I've seen a tight end

1834
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: run as fast on the field as Rock Bowers.

1835
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: He just is so smooth. It's great.

1836
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: I know there's been faster forty times, like Vernon Davis

1837
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: or whoever. But like on the field, he he is

1838
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: just different. Unfortunately, like that, that was their whole offense

1839
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: was him and Genti, who was pretty good out of

1840
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: the backfield too.

1841
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 2: They don't have a running game. I mentioned.

1842
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: The Raiders just could not get the ball in on

1843
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: the goal line early and they end up settling for

1844
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: a field goal from like the one yard line or something.

1845
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: It's just, man, they make just enough mistakes and then

1846
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: they just give you a little bit of hope. I

1847
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 1: thought Gino was gonna pull.

1848
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 2: One out here.

1849
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 25: Yeah, but it was still really nice to see them

1850
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 25: actually put points on the board with Rock Bowers back

1851
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 25: in the mix. Like that's how depressing this offense was

1852
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 25: without him. Ninety five sol of yards and that thirty

1853
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 25: one or other thing lost to the Chiefs. They go

1854
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 25: into the Bie week, they come out, Bowers is back,

1855
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 25: he finally looks healthy for the first time since Week one,

1856
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 25: and suddenly they can score again. Now it took him

1857
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 25: just to get to the second half to really be

1858
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 25: able to score. But they still did, and it at

1859
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 25: least gives you like a bit of evidence Gino's really.

1860
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 2: Not that bad.

1861
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 25: It's just that they don't really have any options and

1862
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 25: they can't run the ball. And now that you get

1863
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 25: brock Bowers back in the mix, at least things get

1864
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 25: a little entertaining.

1865
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that Geno's back quite yet. Not

1866
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: a lot of pass rush for the Jaguars, which I

1867
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 1: think is a concern. Geno also had one groaner of

1868
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 1: an interception, which he does basically every week. So not

1869
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: much pass rush for the Jaguars. And yeah, if you

1870
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: look at the win probability chart for this game, it

1871
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: was just awesome. It was like a seismograph of a

1872
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: giant earthquake or just a horrible lide detector test. Once

1873
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,520
Speaker 1: you got in like past halftime, it was absolutely outrageous

1874
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: as they just answered touchdown for touchdown, and we should

1875
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: mention a little history was made.

1876
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 2: Let's listen to the call of yeah, Cam Little.

1877
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: Setting the all time record in a game they only

1878
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,839
Speaker 1: one by one. The longest field goal ever now belongs

1879
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 1: to Cam Little.

1880
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 16: So here we go a sixty eight yarder from the

1881
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 16: left hash kind of a hold from Logan Cook, Logan

1882
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 16: puts it down, Cam Little kicks it up. The sixty

1883
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 16: eight yard field.

1884
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 2: Goal is good.

1885
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 13: Drill from sixty eight the yards for the last play

1886
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 13: and a half, how good is that? Cam Little from

1887
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 13: sixty eight yards?

1888
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 2: Can we've reached the hall.

1889
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: Hey, this season very much does not end today. Someone

1890
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 1: could pass Cam Little before the end. He Cam Little

1891
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: could pass Cam Little before the end of the season

1892
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: because that thing was good from seventy three. You can

1893
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: put Trey Tucker back there. He's not returning anything. That

1894
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: thing's going through the uprights. But if the season did

1895
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: end today, took the Jacksonville Jaguars would be in the

1896
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 1: playoffs at five and three over the Kansas City Chiefs.

1897
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 2: So there's something to be happy. It's a race.

1898
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 25: It's a race to the playoffs for the Jaguars, and

1899
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 25: much like the space race, we also have a kicking

1900
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 25: race going on. Now. Don't don't think that this is

1901
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 25: gonna be last time somebody tries to break that record.

1902
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: The Raiders fall to two and six, you can cross

1903
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: them out, and unfortunately, I think you can cross out

1904
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 1: the home team on Sunday Night Football two to Sunday Night.

1905
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 10: Donald slows things down.

1906
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 8: Ball at the forty yard line of Seattle. Play fake

1907
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 8: to Walker. Donald's gonna roll.

1908
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 16: He's got his man.

1909
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 26: It's why breaks your tackle going down the far sidelunch

1910
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 26: he could go.

1911
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,560
Speaker 2: He is in for a touchdown.

1912
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 26: Seahawks sixty yards and the Seahawks twenty seven nothing over

1913
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 26: Washington on Sunday Night Football.

1914
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: Holy Catfish, it's one of our favorites. Steve Rayball on

1915
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: k I r Oh and Man. The Seahawks put it

1916
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:54,560
Speaker 1: on the Commanders on Sunday Night Football thirty eight to fourteen.

1917
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: That was part of a dizzying second quarter where the

1918
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 1: Seahawks went from seven to nothing to twenty eight nothing

1919
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: in the span of about five minutes. They had two

1920
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: touchdowns at one point eleven seconds apart. And I've said

1921
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 1: it a lot on this program. I think the Seattle

1922
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: Seahawks are the best team in the NFC. We'll see

1923
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: if they make the Super Bowl, but they're one of

1924
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: the big contenders.

1925
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 2: Thirty eight to fourteen. They win to get to six

1926
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 2: and two. Unfortunately, Shook.

1927
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: The biggest story in this game is Commander related, and

1928
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: it's Jaydeen Daniels suffering an elbow injury in the fourth

1929
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: quarter of that game, thirty eight to seven. It did

1930
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 1: not look good, to put it mildly. We're taping this

1931
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: immediately after the game, so we don't have official word,

1932
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: but we won't expect to see Jayden and Daniels anytime soon.

1933
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: And I think it's absolutely fair to wonder why was

1934
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: he in thirty in the game, down thirty eight to

1935
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 1: seven in the fourth quarter.

1936
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 25: It's especially fair to wonder that given all the injury

1937
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 25: issues that they're already dealing with. They are already very

1938
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 25: thin on both sides of the ball at multiple positions.

1939
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 25: They lost you know, they don't have Terry mccluurin, they

1940
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 25: lost Luke McCaffrey tonight. You can keep going down the list.

1941
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 25: It's a long one. So that makes me think, yeah,

1942
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 25: why was he out there? But I can also see

1943
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 25: the side of it in which you're trying to, you know,

1944
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 25: get something going, put something good together because it was

1945
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 25: such a lopsided game. You'd like just a little bit

1946
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 25: of momentum taking it forward, because you know, we're still

1947
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 25: this halfway through the season.

1948
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 10: But I agree, and hindsight's twenty twenty, so we can

1949
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 10: all be.

1950
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 1: Like, first we were in there watching and if you

1951
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 1: go and look, I saw, like Charles McDonald, a couple

1952
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 1: other people were questioning it even before that. We were

1953
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: talking about it in the theater here, like why is

1954
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: he in that game to start the drive? And one

1955
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: of the reasons why is because he was not protecting himself.

1956
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: He was getting hit a lot.

1957
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Speaker 1: And it was one of my big takeaways from this

1958
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 1: game is his eye level came down in the second

1959
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: half of the game, maybe really throughout where if that

1960
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,799
Speaker 1: first read wasn't there, he was looking around little panicked,

1961
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: and he was often getting out of the grasp of

1962
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: Seahawks defenders and then gaining like three yards and taking

1963
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: hits and going up the middle and just out of

1964
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: the grass. And he ends up running ten times in

1965
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: this game for fifty one yards, and that play it's

1966
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: like a it's an RPO, you know, near the goal line.

1967
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 2: That's not a play call. That's protecting your guy.

1968
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: And I just hate that they're so careful with these

1969
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 1: players in training camp and then the preseason and then

1970
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: you're down thirty eight to seven. I say it, no

1971
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: matter who's the quarterback, much less Jaydon Daniels who's had

1972
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: the injuries, and so I don't think I'm just guessing

1973
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: the result.

1974
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,919
Speaker 2: It's just frustrating. I think that was the lowest.

1975
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 1: That was the worst moment of the season, because they're

1976
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 1: a crossedoff team now because of it, and they're just

1977
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, you just hate it for the young man

1978
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: who's now had three different big injuries this season, and

1979
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 1: it's gonna be gonna be a lot less fun watching

1980
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: this Commanders team the rest of the year.

1981
01:33:57,960 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 2: It's gonna be Mariota at quarterback.

1982
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's probably the worst four quarters.

1983
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 25: Any team's experienced all season if you think about it,

1984
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 25: just the lopsided result, the way that they were dominated,

1985
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 25: you know, by the Seahawks on both sides of the ball,

1986
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 25: and then you lose your star quarterback, a guy who's

1987
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 25: already miss multiple games with multiple injuries. I just it

1988
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 25: really can't get much worse than that. You could see

1989
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 25: the look of despair on his teammates faces, whether it's

1990
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:19,520
Speaker 25: zach ertz Adebo.

1991
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 10: Samuel or even Dan Quinn just realizing.

1992
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 25: Oh my god, this already bad situation in what was

1993
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 25: supposed to be such a promising exciting season has just

1994
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 25: gotten infinitely worse because we've lost our best player possibly

1995
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 25: for the season.

1996
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 10: Not good. Not good.

1997
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 1: Okay, let's spin it back to the Seahawks, because I

1998
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 1: do love watching this team play. This uniform matchup was

1999
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: ten out of ten. Love the Seahawks uniforms. Love the

2000
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: Washington old school get up. So that was fantastic. And

2001
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: Sam freaking Darnold shows up and I know the Commanders

2002
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: defense isn't great, but he was sixteen for sixteen at

2003
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: one point with four touchdowns. I mean, that's just it's

2004
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: one of the best first halfs you can possibly have,

2005
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: and he's getting protected. And that's not to take anything

2006
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: away from him. Charles Cross is playing great. Abe Lucas

2007
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: is playing great. There's some plays where he just sees

2008
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: the matchup and he gets the ball out so fast.

2009
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: The Jackson Smith and Jigba who had eight catches for

2010
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty nine yards, almost all of them

2011
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: in the first half, and Tory Horton has a couple

2012
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: of great moves, ends up with a couple touchdowns. Kenneth

2013
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 1: Walker gets it going. Just this team to me is

2014
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: the best so far. I'm not saying they're the most

2015
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: likely to win the Super Bowl, but the best team

2016
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I've seen so far this season because I think they

2017
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 1: can be so explosive on either side of the ball.

2018
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,799
Speaker 1: Best defense in the league, I think, top to bottom,

2019
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 1: and the explosion in terms of the passing game tonight

2020
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: was there to be hold.

2021
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2022
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 25: And we've watched Sam Darnold, you know, fund success and

2023
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 25: thrive in this offense all season, and we've talked about

2024
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 25: how he fits the style of what you know, Clint

2025
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 25: Kobat wants to do with this offense, which is why

2026
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 25: it's such a perfect marriage, and how he's you know,

2027
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 25: power helping Jackson Smith and Jigmicket off to the hottest start.

2028
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 25: I believe that you said you've ever could ever remember

2029
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 25: for a receiver in the first.

2030
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 2: Half, yeah, which is probably like Getty ahead of myself.

2031
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 2: They're worse every week.

2032
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 10: He's one hundred plus yards, I know.

2033
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: But then you think about it and like Calvin Johnson

2034
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 1: once had a half season, like Antonio Browns had his runs.

2035
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: But either way, he is clearly the best receiver in

2036
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,440
Speaker 1: the league this year, and and it's it's just incredible.

2037
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2038
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 25: But you know what the cool thing about this team

2039
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 25: is is how their defense is kind of evolved as

2040
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 25: we've gone week by week. They went from a team

2041
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 25: that was okay, you can see the potential there and

2042
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 25: you obviously have the defensive mind of Mike McDonald, but

2043
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 25: there were some you know, missing parts where riek Oulan

2044
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 25: wasn't playing well and they were going to replace some

2045
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 25: of Josh job and and you know things that needed

2046
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 25: to be a juster rever. Now they've become this like

2047
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,440
Speaker 25: aggressive blitzing defense and they can cometch.

2048
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 10: You from a number of different ways.

2049
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 25: They had a pressure rate that was north of fifty

2050
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 25: five percent tonight on Jayden Daniels, and it was because

2051
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 25: not just because they're good at getting after the passer,

2052
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 25: but the way that they scheme up these blitzes to

2053
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 25: where he might try to adjust the protection or something,

2054
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 25: and next thing you know, you've got a guy swooping

2055
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 25: around on a stunt, or a linebacker or a dB

2056
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 25: coming through an open lane free rusher and you had

2057
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 25: no idea he was going to be coming from that direction.

2058
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 25: That's what really makes them so impressive because they have

2059
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 25: the personnel, they have the defensive mind to scheme them

2060
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 25: up right, and the offense is working so well, my

2061
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 25: only question Greg, can they because they love to build

2062
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 25: out of you know, under center, a little bit of

2063
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 25: play action stuff like that, can they run the ball

2064
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 25: consistently enough for it to travel? Getting way ahead of

2065
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 25: myself in the postseason because they're going to get there.

2066
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, but can they be great? Part?

2067
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Well, it hasn't been great. Even tonight. It wasn't It

2068
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. I think that's that's fair to point out.

2069
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: But when you have seven different players with at least

2070
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: three pressures, I mean that is incredible. Yeah, and nick

2071
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,759
Speaker 1: emm and Worrie is just turned into this just great

2072
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: chess piece that they're using. And it was terrific to

2073
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,759
Speaker 1: see Devin Witherspoon out there making some big run stop.

2074
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 2: So this is a wagon.

2075
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 1: I've been surprised to see that like boy Mafe and

2076
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 1: Reek Willen might be available on the trade market really why.

2077
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: I know they might not be part of the long

2078
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: term future, but unless you're trading player for player, we'll

2079
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: see the Seahawks this is a year to push because

2080
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: they've got some older players on their defense.

2081
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 2: Take advantage while you can't.

2082
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Washington is a good reminder that you never know what's

2083
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: gonna happen next season, and I think we can cross

2084
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: them off three and six. All right, let's talk about

2085
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Just quickly, me and you little Cardinals, little cowboys.

2086
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna be live on YouTube. We want all the

2087
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: NFL Daily listeners who are with us to the end

2088
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: of the recap show come join us in the chat

2089
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: because we're gonna talk about that game. But we're also

2090
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: going to talk about the trade deadline. Deals will start

2091
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: to happen on Monday, so I think we'll have a

2092
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: lot to already talk about, and we'll talk about maybe

2093
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,719
Speaker 1: what's gonna be ahead. We're gonna have a special trade

2094
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,719
Speaker 1: deadline show on Tuesday. We'll talk a little bit about

2095
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Chris Career. The Dolphins fired their general manager since we

2096
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: last taped. I think that's a bigger deal than people

2097
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 1: even realize, a total sea change from the last two decade.

2098
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: I regretted that I forgot to mention by the way

2099
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter went to injured reserve, that was a big

2100
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 1: problem for the Jaguars. Will they make a move perhaps

2101
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 1: at wide receiver Jalen Wattle could now be available because

2102
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 1: they got rid of the GM in Miami, and you

2103
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: saw with the national reports today. Some interesting names are

2104
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 1: out there, including the BTJ.

2105
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 2: Stuff just keeps.

2106
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: Happening, Jay R Alexander already went to Philadelphia. By the way,

2107
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 1: We've had some interesting moves and yeah, we'll talk about

2108
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 1: it then. Looking forward to Senia Chookie, go go watch

2109
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: some more games.

2110
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Speaker 25: Okay, yeah, we got we got taped to grind and

2111
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 25: we got news to get through Tomorrow it's gonna be

2112
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 25: a wild one.

2113
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go for Jordan Rodrigue.

2114
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Speaker 1: I mean, who know who knew she was going to

2115
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: be the poet laureate of NFL Daily. Great job there, Yeah,

2116
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: I guess if I was going to pick someone who

2117
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 1: would be here. She did a great job with that.

2118
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: Patrick was awesome as always. Yeah, the injuries stink, but man,

2119
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Speaker 1: we had a fun Sunday. We will see you on

2120
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Speaker 1: Monday night.