1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to Coast to Coast AM. Hello there, Connie 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Willis with you. I hope that you'll find me outside 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: of here. It's a lot of fun to do live 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: investigations and I do those for you. If you go 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: to Connie Willis dot com, you'll find me in my shows. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: My show is Blue Rock Talk, and within it I 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: have Project Creepy Hotspots. We go out on live investigations 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: and we just had a mini one with one of 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: my Blue Rockers that was out at a haunted cornfield 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: and haunted cemetery in Durham, Pennsylvania, and we got possibly 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: where am I sure if it's dog man or a 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: big foot or I don't know, maybe some new corn 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: creature or something like that. But we had some we 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: had a lot of implications of something happening. 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: So that was pretty cool. 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: And I was just up in the Rockies over the 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: weekend and got a couple nights in my favorite area 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: and there were all these handprints all over the vehicle. 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: So remember when you go out up into the Rockies 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: or any of the mountains or wherever you go for 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: a couple days or maybe just overnight. Make sure your 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: car is always dirty. Make sure you can get those handprints. 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: Because footprints and we're talking the Bigfoot, the dog man, 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: the other creatures out there, because there's many different ones. 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's very hard to get footprints. It's got 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: to be the perfect situation. But with handprints, just make 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: sure your car is dirty and try not to have 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: a white car. Then get it dirtier because it's so 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: hard to see. But man, when they're around you, they 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: will touch it, and they will they'll have some huge hands. 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: I always want to say they're like Johnny Bench hands. 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: Do you remember when Johnny Bench come on Cincinnati res 35 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: fan right here? Remember when he would hold like five 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: baseballs in one hand. He had his own mit without 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: even having a mit on. So I always think of 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: his hands when I see like a big foothand friend, 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: it's just huge, and I just. 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: Think it Johnny Bench. 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Some of you will understand that because they were the 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: greatest baseball team ever. 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: Just saying just sorry I had to throw that out. 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: That was my time. That was my time. 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: But anyway, go to Connie Willis dot com sign up 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: for my show and be a part of creepy Hotspots 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: and a lot of fun. All right, we have open 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: lines happening for us later on. We've got music from 49 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: the summer of nineteen eighty for you. Throughout the evening. 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: We've got Tommy dan Heiser and Tammy also will pop 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: in from time to time. That would be hilarious to 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: me if you did some female voices from time to time, 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: and that would be Tammy, your twin sister. But right 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: now we have our guest, Mark Palbicki, and he had 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: he had a near death experience. 56 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: He's written about it. You can check out his book. 57 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: His book is called I Got It Right Here Haunted 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: Lake Tomahawk Memoirs of a ghost Hunter. 59 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: So check out his book. He's done a really it's a. 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: Very fun read, easy read and gets into what's happening 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: and the thoughts behind everything too. You can go to 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: his YouTube page channel Excuse Me Haunted Lake Tomahawk, and 63 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: also his Facebook group of the same name. If you 64 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: forget about that, just go to our website at Coast 65 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: tocoastam dot com and you can find or to We're 66 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: to look for all those things. But we have him 67 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: here right now. Back in the day, he talked back 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: and forth with Art Bell and he has been a 69 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: fan of Coast to Coast AM for a long time. 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: Been through a tough day today with a funeral of 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: his one of his best friends. And here he is, though, 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: hanging in there because his mission, his goal is to say, hey, 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: you guys, life after death is real. He's made a 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: lot of changes in his religious beliefs and his thoughts. 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: Along the way. 76 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: And then he also went out and interviewed a lot 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: of people in order to have that book to get 78 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: those stories, and he's learned a lot since. 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: So Mark, how you doing? 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: Now? 81 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: You good? 82 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: All you're learning? I got my trusty bucket next to. 83 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: Anxiety being on Coast to Coast I think that's so cute. 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: We got you your wife, Donna's holding your hand over there. 85 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: You're going to be so happy after the show's over, 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: You're going to go. I was on Coast to Coast 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: all right, Okay, I promise, And I know, uh, I 88 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: know people are going to be wanting to talk with you, 89 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: so let me ask you about what I know. You 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: have a lot of stories. You have stories that talk 91 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: about the local haunts and the pubs. You've got stories 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: about pet cemetery, you got the urban legends, you talk 93 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: about different strange things, ghosts, ghost hunts and what you've 94 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: kind of put together. 95 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: But what what was like. 96 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: The scariest story that you came across And it could 97 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: be your experien answer or one of the other people 98 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: you talked about. 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: I'm not so sure it's scaring. But there was one 100 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: called the Amityville Horror House in the kind of because 101 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: of the shape of the roof. And Melinda Cleveland, the bartender, 102 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 4: and her husband, they had bought that house and they 103 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 4: did a renovation and she's telling me that things started 104 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: happening with the renovation, and one was a green blanket 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 4: that they were gutting the upstairs out and they would 106 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: throw it away, and they had rented the big dumpster, 107 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: and the next day it would come back. We'd be 108 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: up in the room and it happened for a while, 109 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: and she thought that her husband was messing with her, 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 4: and it's like, no, he wouldn't, you wouldn't do that. 111 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: And there were the incidents where he her husband was 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: going down the stairs they had to pour some concrete 113 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 4: downer ended up cutting his foot on a piece of leather. 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: So it's I heard that story and that from that story, 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: and this is a small town. It's maybe a population 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: of two hundred, maybe a little bit more on a 117 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: good damn. And from one story went to another story 118 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: with this Mark Wilson, and Mark Wilson informed me that, oh, 119 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: there was an exorcist performed on that house back in 120 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: the seventies. 121 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: Oh. 122 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: I said, well that's interesting. And from from there I 123 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 4: saw who performed the exorcist, and they gave me the 124 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: guy's name. He said, but he changed his name. I said, 125 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 4: I know. I says, that's Douglas Crew. No, Douglas Crew. 126 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: I knew from an earlier story I met with Lost. 127 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 4: He was he's a part of my paranormal team, but 128 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 4: he's also a woven down wildlife artist. We want for 129 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: a fish fry. And he introduced me to this dog, Curl, 130 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: and Doug was just just down in the dumps and 131 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: he was like he was having a nervous breakdown. He 132 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 4: thought he was going crazy. And I thought that was 133 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: unusual because it was the first time we ever met. 134 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: And I said, what, what what makes you think you're 135 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: going crazy? 136 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Dog? 137 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: He says, Oh, my dog died, and he had a 138 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: picture of any on a necklace he was wearing. He says, 139 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: but I can sell that dog jumping on the bed 140 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: at nighttime and it jumps up and it circles around, 141 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 4: and he goes, I can feel all that. 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 143 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 4: And I said, Doug, You're just You're just more in tune, 144 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: you know, with what's going on with with the other side. 145 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: I said, I myself had experience that several times, like 146 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: when Lulu, my son in law Kim. He had twin boxers, 147 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: it was Lulu and Alvin. And when Lulu passed away, 148 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: she was about eighty pounds, but she jumped on the 149 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: bed at her home here and slinger. The whole bed shook, 150 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: and I was like, no, you're listening to him. You're 151 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: not crazy at all. You can feel what's going on. 152 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: So being a small town, I go to the meat 153 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: market and Douglas growing up. I'm sorry I at the backcheck. 154 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 4: Douglas Crow ended up being the pastor at the church. 155 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 4: He left the church and he changed his name to 156 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: Douglas Crow. Okay, so it's all interconnected. The meat market 157 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: and I wanted a skunk cape shirt from Florida, and 158 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: one of the guy who works there. He says, hey, 159 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: I know his cousin. So I looked at it. Look, 160 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: they looked at the right. I said, you're talking to me. 161 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: He's pointing at my shirt. So we end up going 162 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 4: on a big, bigfoot hunt. 163 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: Excellent his boss there. 164 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: I go there and I get apple turnovers on Sunday morning. 165 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: It's one of the best secrets. And he tells me 166 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 4: about the haunted house. The first of all been Linda's 167 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: house there that and uh, he's telling me about all 168 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: these how he dated a girl and all these pieces 169 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: are of puzzles and games are floating around the room 170 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. 171 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: Whoa pieces of the puzzle. 172 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, hold on, pieces of puzzles were floating 173 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: around in the air. Yeah, oh my goodness, that would okay. 174 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: So from there I got a whold the original girl 175 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: that he had dated. It way back then, and there 176 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: was four sisters that lived in the house. And they're 177 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: telling me these stories. 178 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: You know. 179 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: About the time the now. But you can hear people 180 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: one up and down the steps, and how I think 181 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 4: one of them, the niece, has got pushed down the steps. 182 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: It was three three years old or something and you fell. Oh, no, 183 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: I was pushed. Oh this this story, isn't it in 184 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: the book? Yeah? I think maybe they'll there'll be a 185 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: second book. 186 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to go. 187 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: Back and we'll talk about the neds and and stuff. 188 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: But this story goes back and they were claiming that 189 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: the house was built from like an old kind of 190 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: CD motel, maybe brothel kind of things going on down 191 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: off the Wisconsin whenever, down by Tomahawk somewhere, and that's 192 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: where they think that energy came from. It was the 193 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: building materials, inanimate objects. 194 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's still I get it. 195 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: So why why did the minister? 196 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: Why did he change his name? Why did he leave 197 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: and change his name? Was there something behind. 198 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: That I didn't ask him? 199 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: Oh dude, there there's a story there. 200 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: I know. But he's right now, he's in the in 201 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: the hospital getting help. 202 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: So oh no, there's yep, there's a story there. Hopey. 203 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: Okay, well, you think it was spooky, you think it's 204 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: like spooky exorsus kind of weird. 205 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 4: I don't know. 206 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's one of the chapters in your next book. Okay, Okay, 207 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: you got it, all right, that's good. 208 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: There's there's going to be a that that might be 209 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: an entire book that one. Okay, so I want to 210 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: go to the pets Cemetery. You had some stories in 211 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,119 Speaker 2: the area with pet cemetery. 212 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 4: Okay, we kind of touch space on that with the 213 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: circling around. 214 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, screwed dogs and stuff. 215 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: But Airport Charlie and his wife Rio at Delphim Field 216 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 4: on the airport there, you call him Airport Charlie. He 217 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: was telling me after their dog passed away and he 218 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 4: was a big, beautiful white lamb, and after he's passed away, 219 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: they could feel lumbering around and went seeing and whining, 220 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: maybe wanted to go outside. And for some odd reason, 221 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: two or three in the morning, the radio would come 222 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 4: on all by itself and it would be blasting like 223 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: Barbara Strays and music, and and Ray said, there was 224 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: always Barbara Strays and I don't know why. 225 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: So that's pretty interesting. 226 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 4: Who knows? So, But I think the most interesting story 227 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: up there was the Village Cafe. And after the party, 228 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: we actually did two investigations at the Village Cafe. And 229 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: I said to myself from the office that I was 230 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: only going to investigate people I knew in life. I 231 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: was good with my life I'd be good with them 232 00:13:54,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: and death that they wouldn't get have anything I love, 233 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 4: get attached, or cause any problems in my life as well. 234 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 4: So we went in there and we had I think 235 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: four investigators at the time and Tom Katania filmmaker. I 236 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: go back to Tom for thirty years, and I never 237 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: knew he was a paranormal investigator. It was something you 238 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: didn't talk about. I think right now today it's more 239 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: acceptable than it's probably ever been. Yes. 240 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: True. 241 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: So Tom is there and he's got his cameras and stuff, 242 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: and the gig is there waking out. We had crystal 243 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: meters set up, and we had scanners and a portal 244 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: connect camera which we're interacting, you know, it makes the 245 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: stick person. 246 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the sls. 247 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: They are interacting with us. 248 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 249 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: Those are crazy cameras, aren't they. 250 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: I don't know what to make of them, you. 251 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, I know, but they're they're interesting too. I 252 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: have one. It's amazing. 253 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 4: So we're going through that, and we have a thermal imager. 254 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: Tom and Jeff Brown. He's picking up this thermal imaging 255 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: behind the counter. It's just the shape of a person. 256 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: And I got this stick person in front of me. 257 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: Kind of dancing around, you know, and he said, well, 258 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: put your right arm out, Mark because it's it's right there. 259 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: So I put my arm out and with Duck underneath, 260 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: and just then Jeff Brown screams out Donna's name issue 261 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: with the owner. She passed away and it disappeared. They 262 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: were like, huh, we that was That was strange. And 263 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: just then we're we're working at the trifle manage, wigging out. 264 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: And I think that the spirits or the ghost, the 265 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: essence of the whatever you want to you want to 266 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: call it ghost, the feet off of the emotional energies, 267 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 4: and I think in our excitement, I think a lot 268 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: of that. They were feeding off our own, our own energy, 269 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: their own excitement. We're just then a bank of lights 270 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: over where the boosts are, and I think it was 271 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: like four or five lights. It was like a nine 272 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: Miller meter going off. It was like a big boom. 273 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: And even Pat Barney and he was there skeptic that night, 274 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: his eyes were bugging out. We figure, oh, a breaker blow. 275 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 4: So we went down in the basement and Brickers We're all, okay. 276 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 4: We went by the switch. This switch wasn't working, so 277 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 4: we had no explanation what happened there down in the basement. 278 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 4: The lights were flashing on and off. I don't off. 279 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: Then they picked up another connect camera hit down there 280 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: was it was like a spider monster and I said 281 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 4: call it and a person walking. 282 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 283 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 284 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: dot com for more