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Speaker 2: More of us to experience freedom, specifically internal freedom and

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Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space podcast dedicated to uplifting women

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Speaker 3: like you.

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Speaker 1: We're your hosts.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Dominique Brussard, a college professor and psychologist.

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Speaker 1: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a

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Speaker 1: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please

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Speaker 1: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from

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Speaker 1: black women can just be lady. We have a very

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Speaker 1: special guest today, Okay, and after all of the news

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Speaker 1: dive on in Jasmine. Marie is a speaker, breathwork practitioner,

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Speaker 1: and the founder of Black Girls Breathing. Her work is

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Speaker 1: innovating the wellness, healthcare and research industry by making mental

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Speaker 1: underrepresented demographic. Marie plans to impact one million Black women

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Speaker 1: Columbia University, Cornell University, and her client list wait for this,

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Speaker 1: y'all includes corporations like esde Lauda, companies under Armour, Capital

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Speaker 1: one and many many more. Welcome to cultivating her space.

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Speaker 1: Jasmine Marie. We are so happy to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here, Terry,

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Speaker 3: Yes, and we are, like Terry mentioned, looking forward to

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Speaker 3: this much needed conversation, and so we are going to

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Speaker 3: this quote will sound familiar to you because these are

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Speaker 2: identity is tied up and a lot of our work

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00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: how hard we work, hard we can work, and how

435
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: hard we can work for others, like it just goes on,

436
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: how hard we can care for others, how all of

437
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: that And so we're coming against that programming and if

438
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: we can just be kind to ourselves when we play

439
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: with practice, right, So start with the minute, two minutes.

440
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 2: How do you feel? Okay? I think I have five

441
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: minutes a day, right. Let me see what that feels like.

442
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: Let me see what's coming up in my body when

443
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm doing you know, this breath work. What emotions are

444
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: coming up for me? Make space to witness them. Do

445
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 2: I have to shame the emotions or can I trust

446
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: that my body knows what to do the emotions will

447
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 2: flow out. I will be okay. I can feel the

448
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: depth of this emotion in my body. I can my

449
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: body is safe enough to feel pain I say that

450
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: a lot in our breathwork circles, right, because I think

451
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: something that is common for us to believe is that

452
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: if we feel the pain, we'll stay stuck there, and

453
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: we don't want to stay stuck, like that's worth right,

454
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: Like if I go to the depth of that pain,

455
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: I may not get back up. And it's just like

456
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: sometimes you have to allow yourself to go to that depth,

457
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: right and to fall apart quote unquote, in order to

458
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: not be afraid of seeing yourself fully to get back

459
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: up right. And so that's the gist of the work.

460
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: I like to make it as accessible and relatable as

461
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: possible to us, especially since wellness has a bad reputation

462
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: for making people feel othered and not welcome. So yeah,

463
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: thank you so much for that.

464
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: You know, as I'm listening to you, first of all,

465
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: your voice is just so soothing, Oh thank you, I'm

466
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: just like, oh my gosh, like I just want I

467
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 3: just feel so relaxed and so at ease, and so

468
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: I want to come back to You mentioned a term

469
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: the vegas nerve. What is that and why is that

470
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 3: important to us?

471
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: So it's the main nerve in your parents' sympathetic nervous system.

472
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: And you know, one thing, that one technique to activate

473
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: the vegas nerve that is so cultural to us and

474
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: to me, I'm like, no, we've always been doing this work.

475
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: Right when we think about the origins of this kind

476
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: of work, a lot of pinpointing to yogic, you know,

477
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: foundations and even like of course like Indian culture because

478
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: of the yoga. But I'm like our people, you know

479
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: in Africa were storytellers with history, so there's not a

480
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: lot of notation, but I definitely believe we're doing these

481
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: techniques before. So humming. Humming activates your nerv it, your

482
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: bagus nerve, and I incorporate a bit of that in

483
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: breath work sessions sometimes and it's important because it allows

484
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: us again to activate a more calmer state in our

485
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: nervous system. And when our bodies become accustomed to, hey,

486
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: this is what it feels like to feel calm, because

487
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: a lot of us don't know what it feels like

488
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: in our body for a range of emotions. You know,

489
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: sometimes we start off and it's just like how do

490
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: you feel? I don't know, emotions have been repressed for

491
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: so long that to say how do you feel? How

492
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: are you, it's a hard question for us to answer sometimes,

493
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: and so understanding what it feels like to be in

494
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: a calm state and then allowing your body to get

495
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: addicted to it, like, oh, this is my norm, Like

496
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: this is the grounded space is my norm. This situation

497
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: is taking me out of it, This situation just taking

498
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: me at it, right, Like, how can we begin to

499
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: allow our bodies to help us create boundaries just in

500
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: noticing how we feel? So this work environment makes me

501
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: feel this way, that's that's a message. Oh and it's

502
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: too consistent. I understand I may have a stressful assignment

503
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: or that makes me anxious, and I'll tap back into

504
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: my tools. But if I'm feeling this every second, every day,

505
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: this can be good for my body. And so when

506
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: we have that knowledge, we're able to make decisions for

507
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: ourselves that's better for our bodies, better for our minds

508
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: and our lives. And it can start there. It's just

509
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: like just start there, right, And yeah.

510
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that is so powerful, Jess memory. It

511
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: makes me think about y'all. Ever been on vacation And

512
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: when you get on vacation and you get good into

513
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: the vacation, you're like I've been stressed out this whole

514
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: time because I'm so I just feel so at peace

515
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: on vacation that I didn't realize I was so stressed

516
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: out at home that my norm. So I love that

517
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: you pointed that out, Jazz memory, because that is such

518
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: a beautiful space to be in where calm, peace, having

519
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: a balanced nervous system is your norm. So when you

520
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: get out of it, or certain people come around, you're like,

521
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: hold up, yeah, something happened. I love that you pointed

522
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: that out, and I wanted to ask you about why

523
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: you believe this modality is still foreign to black women

524
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: and what are some of the stigmas that might be

525
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: associated with breath work.

526
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting. The number one thing that we get,

527
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: and that's what mental health in general. When we are

528
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: targeting this work, we're not necessarily just saying we kind

529
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: of want Black women who are in wellness already know,

530
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: we educate, we you know, share the importance of bettering

531
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: your mental health and using a tool like this. That's

532
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: my favorite. I like to bring people in. I like

533
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: to bring the girl in who had no idea what

534
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: this was a little hesitant. That's okay, let's talk about it.

535
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: Let's break down them some barriers, let's form some trust,

536
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: so you're willing to open yourself up to something like this.

537
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: But we get a lot of in general when it

538
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: comes to mental health, like religious stigmas. I mean, I

539
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: know my parents grew up hearing like just pray about it,

540
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: feeling stress, pray about it, depressed, pray about it. And

541
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: I think you know in my babe God, it is

542
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: like baby, I gave people with some gifts, so you

543
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: can not just pray about it. But okay, please just.

544
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: Yes.

545
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: So it's so some help, right, just like you would

546
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: see a doctor about a broken bone, you can go

547
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: see a therapist or use some somatic tools for a

548
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: ruminating thought. Right, Like walking around in the world through

549
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: a lens of trauma just does not give us access

550
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: to a full life. We will always stifle our growth.

551
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: We can manifest like crazy and get that good thing,

552
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: but because we didn't do the root work, we self

553
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: sabotage it. Right. So it's like a lot of people

554
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: may be a little like, oh, I'm a Christian, can

555
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: I do this? I'm like baby Jesus wanted you to breathe, honey, Okay,

556
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: that part wants you to breathe. It's okay, it's okay.

557
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: Breath your body right, your body actually does it, and

558
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: we want our bodies to do it from a place

559
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: that's deeper and not just shallow breathing that impacts our

560
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: are How our body system is, right, Our nervous system

561
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: impacts every system in our body. We're not getting getting

562
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: enough oxygen in our blood. Our blood isn't flowing as

563
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: well as it could. How is that impacting other symstems

564
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: in our body? How is this stress impacting our hormones

565
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: and the hormone imbounce impacts of thyroithm like we could

566
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: go on and on. Liver is not getting all the hormones,

567
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: like the stress factor in chronic stress is you know,

568
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: a symptom amongst all the leading diseases that black woman

569
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: over index on. There's no reason why we should be,

570
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: you know, composed of one of the lowest minorities in

571
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: the country, but make up more of the cases of

572
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: heart disease, of fatalities from breast cancer, ovarian cancer. Right,

573
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: And so I lost the question.

574
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: This is good, great, just like the state ones around

575
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: breathwork and why it's foreign.

576
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And so I think it's just foreign for

577
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 2: us to even rest in general. You know, I mentioned

578
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: in the book, like as hard as breath work may be,

579
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: especially when I'm introducing a pattern that is more intensive. Honey,

580
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: everyone prefers to do that intensive breathwork pattern. But when

581
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: I say rest, don't know what to do? Body can't

582
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: sit still? You asking me about the playlist? Oh, what's

583
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: the next honey? You can we rest? Rest is foreign

584
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: to everybody. We would prefer the hard working. It may

585
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable, but when they get introduced to it, they

586
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: prefer it. They prefer, you know, And it's that mindset

587
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: of I have to work hard, I have hard, and

588
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: so I think rest, taking time for ourselves, prioritizing ourselves

589
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: is so foreign because we haven't been conditioned. If we are,

590
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 2: you know, one in the family that's had some first,

591
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: then we're not only you know, taking care of ourselves

592
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: and our immediate family, but we're reaching back generations. The

593
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: cousin is dependent on this, you know, grandparents. It's just

594
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: so much weight on our shoulders and so we're not

595
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: used to putting it down and say I'm going to

596
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: prioritize myself because we have and that fear I like

597
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: to say, don't. You can't beat yourself up about that

598
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: fear because you saw in your family when someone did that,

599
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: how they were treated. Oh, she's so shot at she's

600
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: you know, you're the top of the table family gathering.

601
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: You think you something else, you know, you think you

602
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: all have Like anytime someone prioritized or said no, you

603
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: have vivid examples of what happened around you, and so

604
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: you're combating that. Anytime you're like, I want to prioritize myself,

605
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: you're combating that. Anytime the boss is used to you

606
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: working over time and even training the person who's above you,

607
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: but you're not getting paid more than them, right, they're

608
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: used to that, And so all those things have been reinforced,

609
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: and as we undo them and unmarn them, it is

610
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: so important for us to be kind to ourselves because

611
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: these are systemic issues. They weave different corners of our lives,

612
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: and as we peel back the weaving, you know, it's

613
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: normal for our bodies to be like, wait a minute, girl,

614
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: you remember last time you took care of yourself. Wait

615
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: a minute, girl, you know, and so it's just like,

616
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: slowly i'mdoing that and allowing our bodies to feel comfortable

617
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: with taking care of ourselves. And even from a somatic standpoint,

618
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: I think I do share this in the book, but

619
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: a trigger for me, like it's hearing case should go

620
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: if I was resting and I heard some kings jump up,

621
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: let me look like I'm doing something like I'm not

622
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: supposed to be resting. It's very generational, like you're always

623
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: be something right, like don't let nobody find you, just

624
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: relax on.

625
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: The couch exactly, you know.

626
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: And so that is seated very deeply within us, and

627
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: we have to be kind to ourselves and practice with

628
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: the body. So there's so many rest exercises in the

629
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: book where we practice resting and you let it feel

630
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: uncomfortable because this is part of the process. You let

631
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: your body feel restless, you let your mind wander a bit,

632
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: and you just track as the more I do this,

633
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: the more can I get my body feeling comfortable. To us,

634
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: because it's not just in making the time. So many

635
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: of us make the time, and then we have the time,

636
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: we're still filling it up with things because we don't

637
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: feel comfortable. We don't feel comfortable.

638
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: And speaking speaking you all of them my business Jess

639
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: you're preation. Keep on going, girl, you on it.

640
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, those are you know, I think that the

641
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: difficulty a lot exists in us just rediscovering you know,

642
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: our bodies. And again we just I mean, the knowledge

643
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: is so new. We didn't see our parents with this.

644
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: You know. My grandmother and I mentioned this in the book,

645
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: was a sharecropper.

646
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: Her.

647
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: Our bodies are just becoming our own. Yes, mm hmm,

648
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Speaker 2: I do you know what I'm saying? My grandmother ownership

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Speaker 2: of her body.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

651
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Speaker 2: So she was forced to not listen to the cute

652
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Speaker 2: those cues. We look at the study of epigene x

653
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: and how traumas passed down through ouray. Yes, literally we

654
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: could not listen to bodily co cues that could be

655
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Speaker 2: our life.

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Speaker 1: That wow.

657
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Speaker 2: And so that's the kind of work we're undoing, and

658
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: it's generational and it just takes our personal kindness as

659
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: we relearn because the minute we get new information, we'd

660
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: like to judge our former selves like crazy, we'd be like, like,

661
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: that's not how learning works. To show up, you know,

662
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Speaker 2: with the knowledge and moving forward. This is how I'll

663
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Speaker 2: move accordingly.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, lady, if you are listening to this and

665
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: you are feeling the need to engage in this work.

666
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: Know that Jazz and Rory's book will be released in

667
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks from when this episode is airing,

668
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: so please make sure that you go and get a copy.

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Speaker 2: But before we.

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00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: Talk more about what's next for you and ask for

671
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: more information about your book, I want something that you

672
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: keep that keeps coming up that you haven't explicitly stated,

673
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: but it keeps coming up. Is this idea of community care,

674
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: which we know whether we are able, whether we call

675
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: it that or not. Community care is a huge aspect

676
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: of healing for black women. And so can you tell

677
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: us what what community care looks like?

678
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Speaker 2: It's black girls breathing. Yes, yes, I adore this question.

679
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: Community care. We have always gathered and this is the

680
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: exact line that I mentioned in the book chapter five,

681
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: Healing our Sisterhood. But we've always gathered, We've always done

682
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: our healing work together the beauty salons, you know, the barbershops, churches,

683
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: like the nails, wherever we are, we have found a

684
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Speaker 2: way to connect with each other. Whether that's a head nod,

685
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: whether that's I see you just with my eyes, it

686
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 2: is a sense of being being seen. Is so healing

687
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: to us simply because when we're out in the world,

688
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: we're rarely seeing fully, yeah, And so when we gather,

689
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 2: we're able to do that for each other, and that's

690
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: so therapeutic for us and even acknowledging too that when

691
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: we gather and when we're in community care, there's often

692
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: healing work that needs to be done because we've serience

693
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: trauma by someone that looks like us. It could be

694
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: in workplace, an older black woman that you thought was

695
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: going to have your back and sabotage because you know

696
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: your success and your growth because she's been conditioned in

697
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: an environment where there's only a few of you and

698
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: you're a threat, and so you understand the systemic nature

699
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: of very few of us being in spaces. But then

700
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: you feel on an individual level betrayed and hurt because

701
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: someone that looked like you did this to you. Right Like,

702
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 2: there's still some very evident healing that needs to happen

703
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: within our community colorism, and so when we seek our

704
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: community care but also able to make space for healing

705
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: and the triggering the aspect of healing when it comes

706
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: to when it's come from us, we get to a

707
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: place where we don't allow clickbait around black women can't

708
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: be friends or you know, black love doesn't exist to

709
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: have legs to stand on. And so, but it takes

710
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: us being real that slavery, you know, caused so much

711
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: trauma amongst our relationship with each other. And we deserve

712
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: to move forward and healing and open ourselves up to

713
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: more aligned relationships with each other and to allow ourselves

714
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Speaker 2: to truly be seen and cultivate these spaces where we

715
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Speaker 2: can continue to be seen and in healing work, you know,

716
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Speaker 2: friction trauma comes up, right, you can't there's spaces, you

717
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: can't just have a space full of us and things

718
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 2: not being knocked around. But how do we show up

719
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Speaker 2: and undoing some of you know what negative belief around

720
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Speaker 2: relationships with others with each other that we have. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I always preface that that work should be done

722
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Speaker 2: in community, not on socials. It lacks an opportunity for

723
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Speaker 2: us to have nuanced conversations about those traumas, but it's

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Speaker 2: integral to our growth as a community and maintaining the

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Speaker 2: sacrediness of when we gather.

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Speaker 1: Yes, my heart, I'm sure you feel the same way. Now.

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Speaker 1: My heart is so full and I am so grateful

728
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Speaker 1: for the work that you're doing jazz memory. This is

729
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: so needed. And I was going to say this, but

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Speaker 1: I kind of felt I judged myself a little bit

731
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Speaker 1: because I was gonna thank you earlier. I was taking

732
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Speaker 1: notes when you were speaking. Let me see, I was

733
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Speaker 1: just gonna thank you for making us feel seen because

734
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Speaker 1: the way that you presented the black experience like to us,

735
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Speaker 1: it just gave it made me want to have more

736
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Speaker 1: compassionate empathy for myself. Like girl ethogenetics, that is real.

737
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Speaker 1: We are pro we have been programmed to be a

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Speaker 1: certain way, and like you said, a lot of times

739
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: when we get new information, we're so judgment of our

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Speaker 1: old self. I'm like I should have been did this

741
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: or what was I doing? It's like we compassion self compassion.

742
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Speaker 1: So with that said, we'd love to know is it

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Speaker 1: possible for us to go through a short breath work

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Speaker 1: activity with you so we can invite the listeners to

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, do it, Let me do it. It was one

747
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Speaker 2: of my favorite that really helps to elongate the breath,

748
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: create a sense of groundedness and evoke just to soothing,

749
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Speaker 2: you know, slower pattern than maybe some of the more

750
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Speaker 2: frequent breathing and deeper breatht pattern. But it's called the

751
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Speaker 2: oceanic breath, and it's called that because it sounds like

752
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 2: the ocean. So your mouth is going to be wide

753
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: open for increased airflow, and you're going to be inhaling

754
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Speaker 2: into the mouth and exhaling out of the mouth. You're

755
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: going to connect your breath. So I'm going to demonstrate

756
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Speaker 2: that what that looks like, continuously breathing, wide open mouth.

757
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Speaker 2: I can't see you, listeners, so don't feel silly.

758
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Speaker 3: This is for you.

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00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 2: So mouth is wide open, inhaling through the mouth, exhaling out,

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Speaker 2: and in just those five rounds, you could probably found

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Speaker 2: your body sinking a little deeper into whatever surface is

762
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: supporting you. Maybe your body just felt more at.

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Speaker 1: Peace and ease.

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Speaker 2: But we will really allow those breaths to expand our

765
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Speaker 2: lungs really feeling like, well, this is what it feels

766
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Speaker 2: like to have a full set of lungs. Wow, I

767
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: don't know I could get here. And then when you're exhaling,

768
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Speaker 2: it's like, this is what it feels like for my lungs,

769
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Speaker 2: completely exhale and really allowing our bodies to get to

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Speaker 2: know our breath in that way. That's why I love

771
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Speaker 2: breath work. It's accessible. You don't have there's no movement

772
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: required right if you're breathing right now, you can do this.

773
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Speaker 2: And so I hope you enjoyed that exercise.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, thank you so much, and so Jasmine Marie.

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Speaker 3: As we mentioned before, this episode is airing a couple

776
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: of weeks before your book is released, and so can

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00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: you tell our listeners some more about one where they

778
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: can get the book and two if they want to

779
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: join the community black Girls Breathing, how do they do it?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm glad you asked this question. So I

781
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: by the time this airs, this should be airing around

782
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: the time that we are launching a special promotion where

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00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: we're offering some incentives if you purchase from a few

784
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: black owned independent booksellers. I'm grateful to be able to

785
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: have the opportunity and support of a large publisher to

786
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: then bring it back to us, right, that's always my goal.

787
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: So if that is around and you see it in

788
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: our Instagram where black Girl's Breathing on Instagram or our Facebook,

789
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: can you see the information grab it from one of

790
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: those independent bookstores black owned, or you can buy from

791
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: wherever you buy your books at all major retailers. The

792
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: titles Black Girls Breathing, Heal from Trauna, Trauma, Combat Chronic Stress,

793
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: and Find your Freedom and not find your freedom part

794
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: is really important to me because in the book, I'm

795
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: not leaving you stuck with the reality of you know,

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00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: the solution or whatever came up and the exercise or

797
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: the breath when we went over certain different topics around

798
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: our trauma or chronic stress, I truly offer you the

799
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: tools to move through that. We're not just going over

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00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: the reasons why we're traumatized. A lot of us already

801
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 2: know that and have already done a lot of mental

802
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: work around that. We go a step further in our

803
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: healing and allowing our body to embody that healing. And

804
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: so you know, trauma doesn't get stored in the yes,

805
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 2: it does, realter our thoughts and beliefs in the mind.

806
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 2: Trauma does, but also in fact impacts and get stored

807
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: in the body. So I can think of a traumatic

808
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: situation and maybe if I haven't worked through that so much,

809
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: I'm having a bodily response right My hands are getting sweaty.

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Speaker 2: I literally feel like I'm back in that situation. For

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00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: a lot of us who haven't done maybe some of

812
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: that deeper healing on a bodily level. May constantly feel

813
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: like we're in spaces where we were once traumatized, whether

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00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: that's our seven year old cells or eleven year old cells,

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Speaker 2: and we may face the situation that triggers that you know,

816
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Speaker 2: we're eleven, we're not, you know, thirty four in the moment,

817
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: we're feeling like we're eleven in that exact same situation.

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Speaker 2: So using the breath and other somatic exercises that I

819
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Speaker 2: share to create a better relationship with your body, Like

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Speaker 2: there's exercise in there around mirror work, Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: I former dancer company dancer, I would be in point

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Speaker 2: shoes around a bunch of white people and did not

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Speaker 2: my body looks so different. There was so many formative

824
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: years I wouldn't even look in the mirror at dance practice.

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Speaker 2: You know how hard it is to dance and not

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Speaker 2: look at yourself in the mirror. What did that do

827
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Speaker 2: to me? Right? Growing up? My body image issues and

828
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: so just different accessible practices like it doesn't require so

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Speaker 2: much and it may be like, oh, I understand why

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Speaker 2: I would do that, but it truly makes a difference.

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Speaker 2: It truly helps, you know, the brain, rewire our bodies

832
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: responses to certain situations we've been through, and take our

833
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: healing to a new level. And I'm really proud of

834
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: this project because and I know it was meant to

835
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: be because I went through so many challenges on my

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Speaker 2: own and creating it. I wrote this book around the

837
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: time that I talk about this in the book, how

838
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: I was navigating an autoimmune condition because of my exposure

839
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Speaker 2: so much secondhand trauma exposure and its impact on my body.

840
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Speaker 2: With this work, especially in COVID, I mean, our work

841
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: took off. You know, we have hundreds of people joining

842
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: a session and I'm being exposed to so much trauma

843
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: and how heavy it feels to make space for us

844
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: versus my corporate sessions where I can just be walking

845
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: up out of there because they're not really holding that much.

846
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, okay, of

847
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: just feeling the differences and being able to use these

848
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: tools to get myself back to better health. I mean,

849
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Speaker 2: it's constant learning. So I also want to be transparent

850
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 2: and that I'm always walking this journey with people. I'm

851
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: not someone who's reached this level of like I never

852
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: experienced anything. I never get triggered. That's not even life.

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Speaker 2: You know, I do get triggered. My responses are just

854
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: different than how I used to. And I can look

855
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: back and say, oh my gosh, see that progress from

856
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Speaker 2: I would are definitely not responded to that at that time.

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Speaker 2: You know, now I'm responding completely different. But life and

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Speaker 2: I also don't want to say, yes, healing is continuous,

859
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 2: but we also center enjoying life and having fun and

860
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: not allowing our brains and our minds to think something

861
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: is wrong with us, but always fixating on healing. I

862
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: need to deal.

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Speaker 3: I need deal.

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Speaker 2: You know I will send you away from our community.

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Speaker 2: It's a constant. I got to get this right. Know

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Speaker 2: that is your perfectionism coming out. And you're thinking you

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Speaker 2: need to work work, work, work, work on yourself, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, I want you to relax a big bit.

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Speaker 2: I want you to enjoy life while being more aware

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Speaker 2: of things that you can work on and using a

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Speaker 2: measure of progress versus perfection to see how far you've come.

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Speaker 2: And so the book is a gentle guide, Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: it feels like I wanted it to feel like the

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Speaker 2: work I wanted to feel like a gentle, warm hand

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Speaker 2: saying let's try this together, and not someone standing in

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Speaker 2: a lecture, you know, preaching to somebody right and preaching

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Speaker 2: on what you should do. And so I definitely feel

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Speaker 2: like we accomplished that with the book. And I'm just

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Speaker 2: so grateful to be able to have this opportunity to

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Speaker 2: share my words and to people who will allow me

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Speaker 2: to be a part of their healing. I think that

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Speaker 2: is something that is so I never take for granted,

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Speaker 2: Like I just like, wow, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: allowing me the space to share this information with you.

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Speaker 2: I don't take it lightly. It is such an honor.

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Speaker 2: It's really an honor for me to be able to

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Speaker 2: offer this work. And so we're also going to be

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Speaker 2: going over the work in our community. So I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: We're going to read it together in our Sunday Bomb.

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Speaker 2: It's a paid membership. I think we are going to

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Speaker 2: offer a promotion. You know what, let's do a promotion

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Speaker 2: specifically for your community.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we do that? Yeah? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna we're gonna put a special offer

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Speaker 2: code and maybe I should make it up right now, like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: the code is her podcast, and we'll do fifty percent

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Speaker 2: off for three months. Okay, so that's nine thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: We have live sessions, we have recorded breath, we're guided videos,

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Speaker 2: we're dropping off new series. We're super excited. Just some

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Speaker 2: new content that's launching the platform December. We're featuring our

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Speaker 2: rest practices, so we're doing this work with each other,

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Speaker 2: which is again so healing right, and then we're also

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Speaker 2: over the book and doing these different exercises together when

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Speaker 2: it launches an into the new year. And so yes,

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Speaker 2: your audience will have fifty percent off her podcasts, fifty

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Speaker 2: percent off our membership, and if you are not in

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Speaker 2: the place to be able to pay completely get it.

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Speaker 2: We are online community. You can join our email lists

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Speaker 2: where you find it on black girlsbreathing dot com. Click

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Speaker 2: the about section and join our online email list and

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Speaker 2: you can gain access to our free meditation library. We

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Speaker 2: just wrapped up our scholarships for the Sunday Bomb platform,

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Speaker 2: but they'll likely be opened up again sometime in Q one,

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Speaker 2: So if you're on our email list, you'll get notifications.

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Speaker 2: If you are financially strained, cannot afford it, but want

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Speaker 2: to be a part of this work. We do offer that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, those are ways that one can join us.

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Speaker 2: I just want more of us to experience freedom, specifically

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Speaker 2: internal freedom and not having to bear the weight of

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00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: viewing our world our lives through the lens of our trauma.

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Speaker 2: Like we deserve so much more. And that is my

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Speaker 2: goal with this work for us as black women. And

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Speaker 2: I'm always going to arrive for us, always, always, always,

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Speaker 2: especially the next four years, it's about us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, thank you so much for the discount Coach podcast.

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Speaker 2: But hr podcast, So that's such a little bit as

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Speaker 2: and I'll send over details too for you all. But

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Speaker 2: thank you. I just appreciate this conversation. It was such

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Speaker 2: a warm hug for me, a virtual, warm, energetic hug

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Speaker 2: being able to be in conversation with you all. And

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you all for your work. It's me and

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Speaker 2: I know it's not easy. I know being in that side.

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Speaker 2: I know even having the whole route of becoming therapist

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Speaker 2: right that free intern like what so many of us

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Speaker 2: can't afford to do work for free for a year

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Speaker 2: to qualify, you know, to get like, yes, that's insane,

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Speaker 2: but you've taken on that journey and I appreciate you being.

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Speaker 2: We need you here. Your work is so important and

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Speaker 2: I just see you all as well. So thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Please note that our show may contain conversations about self help, advice,

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