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Speaker 3: Carrie, what what was Thursday night?

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Speaker 2: Do you have you know, do you sit by yourself

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Speaker 2: with a notepad? Do you have buddies over?

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Speaker 3: Like? Like? What is Carrie?

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Speaker 2: Were you at Hermosa Beach where there was apparently a

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Speaker 2: huge Rams watch party.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was at her Mosa Beach on Friday. Had no idea.

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Speaker 2: There's Ram stuff everywhere. What how did you take in

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Speaker 2: Thursday night of the NFL Draft?

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Speaker 4: Well, I took it a Thursday night NFL draft by

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Speaker 4: watching NBA basketball.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so that's a good sports talk radio host.

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Speaker 2: Catch up on the football later.

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Speaker 3: You know what I had it on.

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Speaker 4: I definitely was aware of the picks that were coming

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Speaker 4: in and obviously no surprises at the top, like we

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Speaker 4: talked about last so where you know, we're the top

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Speaker 4: three were kind of you know, kind of fell in

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Speaker 4: order with the quarterbacks and that deal. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: was watching the game, man and going back and forth

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Speaker 4: and really, you know, really indulging in NBA playoff basketball.

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Speaker 3: But the draft is allways special as well. Well.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of things that happened

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, really Thursday through Saturday that we can get into.

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Speaker 2: You know, listen, the Pennix Cousins stuff is very interesting.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about that momentarily, but I actually

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Speaker 2: want to start with with your New York Jets.

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Speaker 3: You played there forever not your team, but you know

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Speaker 3: you played. Okay, you do you? Okay? You and Whatdy Johnson? Okay,

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Speaker 3: can we get Whatdy Johnson? And Hour too? Is it free?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? I don't know about this time, but next week

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Speaker 4: for sure we can get them on. Okay, no pressure.

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Speaker 4: But I found what they did really interesting and it

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Speaker 4: was funny. So my setup was my mom was in

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Speaker 4: town and we were out ordering dinner, bringing it home

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Speaker 4: to my wife and everything like that, and we're kind

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Speaker 4: of at the bar like waiting for our food. When

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Speaker 4: you see how the draft has played out. You see

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Speaker 4: that Michael Pennix has gone. You see that brock Bowers

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Speaker 4: has fallen. You see that, Okay, Romadonze is not gonna

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Speaker 4: be on the board. But you see that old fashion

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Speaker 4: who is there as well. And I bring it up

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Speaker 4: because I said.

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Speaker 2: To my mom, I said, oh my goodness, the Jets

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Speaker 2: and smartly they traded back one pick. Whatever I said,

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Speaker 2: They're gonna do it. They're gonna make Aaron Rodgers happy.

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Speaker 2: Go get brock Bauers, go get another weapon when we

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Speaker 2: all know that offensive line was just has been a

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Speaker 2: train wreck for a long time. And so the pick

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Speaker 2: comes in and you see Olu fashion U hugging on

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Speaker 2: the couch with mom and dad, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you saw the video, Mom kind of boxed out

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Speaker 2: the girlfriend who went in for a hug. It's a

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Speaker 2: great video if you haven't seen it yet. But I

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Speaker 2: would bring it up because I think what the Jets

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Speaker 2: did was as interesting as anybody in Round one. They

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Speaker 2: back it up by taking Jordan Travis late in the

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Speaker 2: draft yesterday, the star quarterback from four order State who

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Speaker 2: unfortunately got a very major injury.

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Speaker 3: Late in the year.

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Speaker 2: Where they are in a situation now where listen, I

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Speaker 2: think there has been a public perception that it's all

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Speaker 2: only one that matters, that he's running the organization, that

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Speaker 2: he's a shadow GM basically, And it felt like the

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Speaker 2: Jets made the adult, prudent decisions. We're building long term.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna build the O line. We have a backup

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Speaker 2: for Aaron. We don't have to scramble if something happens

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Speaker 2: this year. Long story short, I love what the Jets

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Speaker 2: did this. Yeah, the Jets did a good job.

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Speaker 4: A lot of times, when you have a star player,

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Speaker 4: a player of Aaron Rodgers caliber, you're gonna acquiesce to

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Speaker 4: most of his needs, right, And that's that's kind of

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Speaker 4: how it works. But as a GM and functional organizations,

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Speaker 4: they make the picks and they make the trades and

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Speaker 4: for a long time, right. And so I think the

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Speaker 4: Jets addressed that. I know they addressed the tackle and

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Speaker 4: can be the cornerstone of your franchise for a long time.

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Speaker 4: You get a left tackle that comes in and protects

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Speaker 4: your quarterback for a long time, then you're making the

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Speaker 4: right pick. So it's a solid pick. He's his comparable

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Speaker 4: is to another great that the Jets drafted in my

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Speaker 4: time there in the Brikershoft Ferguson, So kind of fits

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Speaker 4: that mold. And if he pans out to be close

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you, let's just talk big picture Jets.

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Speaker 3: I find them to be.

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Speaker 2: I still like, like I'm not as dead, like I

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Speaker 2: can see where the people that are just down that

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Speaker 3: I get it. I do.

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Speaker 2: It's not one where I think like people are wrong.

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Speaker 3: Just not gonna work. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really there though, because you look at the division. Listen,

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Speaker 2: you give to all that money you had previously given

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, all that money, you're losing pieces. And oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, the Dolphins weren't that good down the

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Speaker 2: stretch last year. I mean, I don't remember the numbers

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Speaker 2: wildcard spot, so they're you know, I know, by the way,

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Speaker 2: let's and I don't say this disparagingly or mockingly, but

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Speaker 2: it's like two also stayed healthy, which we really have

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Speaker 2: So I'm not rooting for injury, but I'm just saying

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Speaker 3: Anomaly that he stays healthy. Do you have the New England.

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Speaker 2: Patriots, which I'm not an NFL expert roster evaluator, might

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Speaker 2: don't think that's an exaggeration, at least on offense, they're

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Speaker 2: to Fon Diggs, they lose Gabe Davis, and they are

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Speaker 2: have to pay the piper for that big Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: just sit there and say, I get where people don't

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Speaker 2: will not buy into the Jets until they see it.

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Speaker 2: But I think I'm a little bit higher on them

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Speaker 4: I mean, this year, if Aaron Rodgers stay is healthy,

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Speaker 4: as bad as that team looked at times, they would

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Speaker 4: have made the playoffs. Yes, And so you can't be

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Speaker 4: too off of them. I think that the injury bug

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Speaker 4: is always a factor. And you have a quarterback and

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter how good he is, the injury bug

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Speaker 4: is always a real threat. But I also think they

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Speaker 4: addressed they addressed that even before the draft. They went

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Speaker 4: out and got Tyrod Taylor, a guy that obviously can

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Speaker 4: this year. I mean, it's not going to be Jordan

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Speaker 4: have a guy like that that's proven, a proven backup

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Speaker 4: With the defense that the Jets have They're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 4: But yes, I'm high on the Jets as well, and

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Speaker 4: I was high last year, but this year they've really

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Speaker 4: taken the steps of addressing the things that were the

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Speaker 4: I'm really high on them as well. And as that

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's really interesting. So what is it about Buffalo?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know I just laid it out, but

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Speaker 2: you lose Stefon Diggs, you lose I used a couple

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Speaker 2: of defensive guys as well as Gabe Davis again on

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Speaker 3: Is that what the concern is with Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: Well, the concern with them is the I think that

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Speaker 3: They missed it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they ran into a buzz saw called the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs and then also another buzz above saw with the

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Speaker 4: healthy and with the healthy Joe Burrows in Cincinnati. Right

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Speaker 4: those are two situations where anybody could lose to those guys.

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Speaker 4: So they didn't fail, but that window shrinks really quickly

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Speaker 4: in the league. Other teams catch up. Other teams start

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Speaker 4: to you know, address their needs and surpass you really quickly.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, just right now.

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Speaker 4: I just even with Buffalo last year, I didn't think

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen to get to see where he really stands

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Speaker 3: Though. Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: So first of all, I think most people that love

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Speaker 2: into their by going into December, they get hot win

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Speaker 2: five straight, but they were a not good football team

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Speaker 2: for you know whatever, sixty six, you know, two thirds

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Speaker 2: interesting And let me ask you this, did you think

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Speaker 2: after the case loss that they should have more seriously

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Speaker 2: considered moving on, like starting over with the McDermott stuff,

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Speaker 2: because a couple things stand out to me. One, it

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Speaker 2: felt like he had lost the locker room about midway

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Speaker 2: through the year.

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Speaker 3: Now they rally two.

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Speaker 2: This was the year like and I still go back

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Speaker 2: to you have Kansas City at home. They Yes, we

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Speaker 2: know now that they ultimately won the Super Bowl, but

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Speaker 2: in that moment, it was like they were, what three

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Speaker 2: weeks were moved away from losing the Raiders on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 3: They were not the Kansas City Chiefs of old.

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Speaker 2: And so that's another one where I go back and

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Speaker 2: forth on because on the one hand, I sit there

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Speaker 2: Kansas City really was that team again? And they went

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Speaker 2: through Baltimore and they went through San Francisco, But in

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Speaker 2: that moment, it was like, you know, the definition of

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Speaker 2: insanity is doing something over and over expecting a different result,

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Speaker 2: and it did feel like in that moment, it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, it's great that you want a couple games

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Speaker 2: late in the year to win the AFC East again,

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Speaker 2: to get that number two seed, to get home field

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio aratorus Carrie Roads taking

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Speaker 4: So yeah, they're just riding away. Ukon's winning right now.

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Speaker 3: So when you hear that argument, what does that make you?

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Speaker 4: And so if you're investing that amount of money into something,

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Speaker 4: that's alarming for me, And I think that's alarming for

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Speaker 2: So I I don't necessarily disagree with all that. Here's

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Speaker 2: that aren't you know, aren't now have a guy breathing

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Speaker 2: down their neck? A young guy like, wait a second, Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm a ninth year VET. I'm thirty one years old.

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Speaker 2: I got one or two more years at this Why, like,

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Speaker 2: do other guys in the locker room care? Again, I

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Speaker 2: don't agree with kirk Cousins clearly being upset about it,

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Speaker 2: but I sort of understand it. But as a cornerback,

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Speaker 2: as a safety, as a defensive and you know, hey,

443
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Speaker 2: our star linebacker just retired or whatever, like, like, do

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Speaker 2: the other guys in the locker room will they have

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Speaker 2: a fundamental.

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Speaker 3: Issue with I don't think so. I think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when it comes to winning, guys want to win, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and the best person at that position needs to play.

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Speaker 4: And that's just how it kind of chuckles down. I mean,

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Speaker 4: take a personal story of mine. When I was in

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Speaker 4: Arizona in twenty eleven, I got hurt during the season.

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Speaker 3: I broke my foot, and.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was all about, you know, helping our

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Speaker 4: younger safety go out there and compete and put his

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Speaker 4: best foot forward because I knew he was gonna have

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Speaker 4: a chance.

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Speaker 3: To be really really good.

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Speaker 4: In this league and have a chance to you know,

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Speaker 4: when I walked away or our other say the Adrian

460
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Speaker 4: Wilson at the time, walked away, he would probably step

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Speaker 4: into that place. So I was all support and was

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Speaker 4: loving it. He was out there, he's playing well. His

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Speaker 4: name was Rashad Johnson. So he ended up having a

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Speaker 4: really good career after but he was out there playing

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Speaker 4: really well, I was texting them before the games and

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Speaker 4: giving them all this positive feedback, and I was watching

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Speaker 4: them playing Blossom and Bloom. I'm like, Okay, this dude's

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Speaker 4: getting really good. All right, I probably should get back

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Speaker 4: to being healthy myself now. I really focused on myself

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Speaker 4: and get to that point. So, you know, you start

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Speaker 4: to do that and you help the team, and you

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Speaker 4: help these guys become who they want to be and

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Speaker 4: achieve what they want to achieve. But again, personal ego

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Speaker 4: comes to play where it's like, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, he's playing really good.

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Speaker 4: I should probably get back out there and show them

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Speaker 4: that I'm really good as well. And so you start

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Speaker 4: having those that internal conflict between your own personal psyche

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Speaker 4: and who you are and the player that you've been.

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Speaker 4: And then you have this young guy that stepping into

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Speaker 4: that position or getting that shine and getting a chance

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Speaker 4: to show what he can do, and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: he can play too, so I need to get back

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Speaker 4: into it. So it's that internal battle within people as humans,

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Speaker 4: that the human element it's gonna take place where there's

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Speaker 4: gonna be some negative energy towards and and I could

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Speaker 4: see Kirk Cousins having.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I want to get to Cousins in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But last one, last question, and this might be a

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Speaker 2: dumb question, but you know, I obviously penixes the backup whatever,

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Speaker 2: but how much does them kind of being differ front quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Pennix is a lefty, Cousins is alrighty, Pennis

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Speaker 2: a little bit more with his legs, although he's more.

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Speaker 3: Of a pocket guy.

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Speaker 2: But like I think the thought process is when you

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Speaker 2: have Brett farrv and you draft Aaron Rodgers, they're kind

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Speaker 2: of the same guy, so they're going through reps.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to change too much.

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Speaker 2: If Brett Favre goes down, it's okay because Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: got the same quarterback like our Cousins and Pennis going

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Speaker 2: to be able to practice the same. So Penix gets

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Speaker 2: the reps that he's gonna need when he gets in.

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Speaker 2: Or because he's a lefty, do you have to do

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Speaker 2: everything different like that. That's the one thing I'm a

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Speaker 2: little bit confused about where it's like if you have

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins and say you draft JJ McCarthy, say Drake

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Speaker 2: may was available there, then it's a little bit more

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Speaker 2: of a mirror of similar styles, righty, on righty. You know,

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Speaker 2: Drake May is more of a pocket guy like Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Does it impact the practice schedule at all because Pennix

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Speaker 2: and Cousins are a little bit of a different kind

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Speaker 2: of guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna devise the plays to suit that player,

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Speaker 4: for sure, and so there's.

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Speaker 3: Not as much overlap as Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you'll definitely, you know, being a lefty, probably

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Speaker 4: the right side of the field is going to be

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Speaker 4: a little bit stronger for him. He'll be able to

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Speaker 4: see that clearer as a as a rookie coming on,

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Speaker 4: and so you would make even if it was game

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Speaker 4: plan specific stuff to take advantage of his skill set

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Speaker 4: and where where he's the most comfortable. They're going to

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Speaker 4: do that obviously for sure. I think in mini camps

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Speaker 4: and training camps OTAs, they'll devise plans for them both

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Speaker 4: to get equal reps because again, Kirk is coming off

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Speaker 4: an injury and so we don't know how, you know,

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Speaker 4: how healthy he's going to be going into those mini camps,

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Speaker 4: OTA's and all those things. Obviously he's back and he's

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Speaker 4: throwing the ball. I've seen that, but you know, we

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Speaker 4: don't know, and they're going to be cautious with them

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Speaker 4: as well. So I'm sure Penis will get a lot

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Speaker 4: of the reps early, so he will be I think

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Speaker 4: well suited and know the offense and know the scheme

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Speaker 4: going into the going into the season, probably better than

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Speaker 4: any other rookie probably would. And you also talk about

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Speaker 4: the Brett Favar Aaron Rodgers thing. Right, you go back

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Speaker 4: to you go back to best available. They didn't take

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Speaker 4: him at eight, they didn't take him at top ten.

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Speaker 4: They took him at the end of the first round,

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Speaker 4: and so talk about best of it.

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Speaker 3: And he was plumbing. Yeah, Roger, of course they're going

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Speaker 3: to take him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Leilana Falcons now have two good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: They have two good ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they also have a very disgruntled starting quarterback. And

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Speaker 2: I want to discuss that part next.

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Speaker 3: We will.

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Speaker 2: Before we do, let's toss it over the news desk

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Speaker 2: first time this afternoon for US Isaac Loncron.

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Speaker 3: What is trending? My friend?

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Speaker 6: All right, Aaron and Carrie, and we start in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: We're a short time ago. The Milwaukee Bucks officially ruled

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Speaker 6: out Giannis on Tetakoumpo and Damian Lillard for game four

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Speaker 6: of the playoffs tonight at Indiana Jannis because of a

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Speaker 6: strained left calf Lillard because of right achilles tendonitis.

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Speaker 3: The Pacers lead that series two games to one.

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Speaker 6: Today's NBA Playoff action tips off at the top of

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Speaker 6: the hour with Game four from Philadelphia between the Sixers

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Speaker 6: and the Knicks, with the Knicks leading the series two

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Speaker 6: games to one. In Game four on Saturday night, the

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Speaker 6: Los Angeles Lakers stayed alive with a one to nineteen

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Speaker 6: What Await victory over Denver, which still leads the series

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Speaker 6: three games to one, as the Lakers boca head to

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Speaker 6: head eleven game losing streak against Denver perfectly summed up

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Speaker 6: on social media by at Lake show Yo, who tweeted,

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Speaker 6: I don't care who you are, nobody beats the Lakers

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Speaker 6: twelve times in a row.

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Speaker 3: Box Sports Radios Rob Gara had a very similar tweet,

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Speaker 3: Yeah that I saw last time.

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Speaker 6: Actually, you know what I now that you think of it,

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Speaker 6: I did see more than one tweet relating that exact

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Speaker 6: same line. Earlier Saturday night, the Boston Celtics led wire

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Speaker 6: to wire in a one four to eighty four victory

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Speaker 6: at Miami Celtics Tick of two games to one lead

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Speaker 6: in that series. In the NFL, today, the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 6: have signed former Detroit Lions receiver Quintez Cephis, best known

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Speaker 6: for being suspended for all of last season for violating

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Speaker 6: the NFL's gambling policy.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on

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Speaker 3: in here, so thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, Cephas was officially stated ten days ago, and now

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Speaker 6: he's in Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, guys, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: I was glowing cro on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Sunday Ara Towards Carry Rhoades broadcasting live from the tyreq

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Speaker 2: dot com studios. All right, I've teased it enough. Kirk Cousins, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: drum roll please. Because his agent, who of course is

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Speaker 2: speaking on behalf of him. He had a lot. It

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Speaker 2: was funny, you know, Like I said, I was with family. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: drum roll please, it's late.

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Speaker 3: But it's there. There, it is there, it is yeah,

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Speaker 3: there it is. All right.

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Speaker 2: So I saw about four straight tweets come up about

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins agent. I was like, oh, that was a

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Speaker 2: mass text to the media for people. Don't know how

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Speaker 2: all this stuff works. Is that when somebody wants a

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Speaker 2: message delivered. They get it to to just about everybody,

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Speaker 2: And so I want to read what kirk cousins agent

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Speaker 2: had to say, really again, basically on behalf of Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: If the internet was slow in here, I would already

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Speaker 2: have it up. So please forgive me. I'm gonna vamp

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Speaker 2: here a little bit and talk a little bit about Kirk.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. Direct quote.

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Speaker 2: I just well here, okay, this is the direct quote. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it was a big surprise. We had no idea it

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Speaker 2: was coming. The truth is, the whole league had no

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Speaker 2: idea this was coming. We got no heads up. Kirk

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Speaker 2: got a call from the Falcons when they were on

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Speaker 2: the clock. That was the first we heard. It never

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Speaker 2: came up in any conversation. Well, first of all, Mike McCartney,

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Speaker 2: your agent, you're a liar because you said we got

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Speaker 2: no heads up. Then the next sentence you said Kirk

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Speaker 2: got a call when they were on the clock. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I think this is soft and weak from Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: You got paid one hundred million dollars of fully guaranteed

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Speaker 2: money as much as whatever it is, one eighty I

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Speaker 2: think it is. Yeah, you're obviously the starter. But you

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Speaker 2: are thirty six, you are coming off injury, and I

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Speaker 2: think the other thing to me, you just got to town.

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Speaker 7: Like.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the Packers were Clearly they weren't

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Speaker 2: wrong to draft Jordan Love as a replacement for Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers or Aaron rodd but you just got to town

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Speaker 2: to sit there and think that you're owed something by

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Speaker 2: a franchise that you have done nothing for.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I think this is soft.

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Speaker 2: I think it's weak, and I know fans get mad

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Speaker 2: when guys like me say this. Kirk Cousins, shut up,

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Speaker 2: get back into the film room, and focus on leading

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Speaker 2: the Falcons next year. That's my opinion. Clearly, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to speak on behalf.

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Speaker 3: Of you, but go ahead, Kerrett.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a guy like Kirk Cousins who came

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Speaker 4: into the league and had to compete. Yeah, he's had

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Speaker 4: to compete for everything he's had, and so I would

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Speaker 4: see him. I don't even see why this is a

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Speaker 4: relevant conversation. Yeah, And why was that tweet or message

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Speaker 4: or it? Really he's put out for people who are

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Speaker 4: listening to us.

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Speaker 2: You were critical of the decision by the Falcons, which

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Speaker 2: is different than how Kirk Cousins himself should feel about.

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Speaker 3: So I want to continue for anyone that's been listening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, No, he's like I said, he's a guy that's

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Speaker 4: competed his whole career and to be in a situation

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Speaker 4: where he was the guy that would would have you know,

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Speaker 4: came in as the backup and competed and got the job.

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Speaker 4: So I can see where his mind may wander, Like

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Speaker 4: I said, I mean as a human right, Like his

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Speaker 4: mind's wondering like this is this is the situation I've

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Speaker 4: been in before, and it's happened in the other way,

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Speaker 4: the other way around, like I took the starter's job

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Speaker 4: and never gave it back, right, And so that's creeping

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00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: in his mind obviously human nature. But again, he just

654
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: got paid. He just got a guaranteed boatload of money.

655
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Speaker 4: He's the guy they can't take it back. He's going

656
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Speaker 4: to be the guy go out there and play and

657
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Speaker 4: compete and win and win them games and he will

658
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Speaker 4: be fine. So I don't even know what the conversation

659
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: about that is for him. Now as far as the pick,

660
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 4: like we can argue about that being the right pick,

661
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: but just go play football. I'm with you on that

662
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: take as well. This isn't this isn't a big deal.

663
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Speaker 4: The guy isn't brought in to steal your job. If

664
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Speaker 4: that was the case, they would have gave you a

665
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Speaker 4: little bit a little less money and let you come

666
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Speaker 4: in and compete on a one year deal, two year deal.

667
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Speaker 3: This is the case right now.

668
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Speaker 2: And I think, and this is the other spin from

669
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Speaker 2: this is the other spin from the Raheem Morris I heard,

670
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: I said, I heard Ryan Clark, who's close with Raheem Morris,

671
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: talking about it. Yeah, and I know this is spin, right,

672
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: It's it's, you know, a franchise trying to justify whatever.

673
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: But I did here and I thought this was actually

674
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Speaker 2: a good point as well. And this is a testament

675
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Speaker 2: to Kirk Cousins. Is Hey, Kirk Cousins, here's the other thing.

676
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Speaker 2: If you're as good as we expect you to be

677
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Speaker 2: over the next two three four years, we're never gonna

678
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Speaker 2: be in position to get a quarterback this good ever again.

679
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Speaker 2: And so, as I said last segment, there's a lot

680
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: of pieces there. This is kind of built for you

681
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: to step in win the division next year. And let's

682
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: be honest, because we know how this works. You play

683
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: so many division games against bad teams. This could be

684
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 2: an eleven to twelve win team, not because they're one

685
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: of the three best teams in the NFC, but because

686
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: just the way the schedule breaks everything is built.

687
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Speaker 3: So I think that's part of it as WELLCOH.

688
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Speaker 4: And the one thing that we haven't even talked about yet,

689
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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna throw it out there, is again, if

690
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Speaker 4: it's best available, you take a guy like Michael Pennix

691
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Speaker 4: at eight. If Kirk Cousin pans out and he plays

692
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Speaker 4: four more years of great football and they win, this

693
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: is another bargainionship. This is another hip as well that

694
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: they could have up to leave. That's a great call.

695
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: That's a great call because I think that's what we

696
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: forget is every single year there's three, four, five teams

697
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Speaker 2: that going into the season you don't think you're gonna

698
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: need a quarterback that end up need a quarterback. I'll

699
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: just give you a quick examp because I want to

700
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Speaker 2: come back and talk about some other stuff. But like

701
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Speaker 2: if the Cowboys had done this, Let's say somehow the

702
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: Cowboys had the eighth pick and they made this decision,

703
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: and I was Dak Prescott, I know he's going in

704
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: a contract year, but it's like I'd be pissed because

705
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: I'd be like, dude, I have gave blood, sweat and

706
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Speaker 2: tears for this organization for the last eight nine years. Yeah,

707
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Speaker 2: and you're doing me dirty like this, and the count

708
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: would still be go out and earn the job whatever.

709
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: But at least Dak has equity in that building. And

710
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: I think that's that's maybe the part. Like Kirk Cousins,

711
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: we first of all, we get it, you overcame a lot.

712
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 2: You were the whatever, fourth fifth round pick, you know,

713
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Speaker 2: back up to RG three.

714
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Speaker 3: We get all that a million years ago.

715
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Speaker 2: It doesn't change the fact that you just got there

716
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: a million uh uh, you know one minute ago.

717
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I I just the whole thing, just like I said,

719
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: the Kobe Bryant soft soft. So it just feels soft

720
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: to me. I just I don't I don't like it.

721
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, a little soft and entitled exactly. Yeah,

722
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: and that and that's and that's what it is. I mean,

723
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: the cachet that you you kind of develop as a player.

724
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: You know, other other players, other teams know about that.

725
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: So when you walk into a new locker room, you

726
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: you know, you have to humble yourself though, because guys

727
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: see that and a guy like him, like you just said,

728
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 2: that hasn't put any equity into that team coming in

729
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: with a huge ego, because that would come off that

730
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: way as well to people that don't know you. It

731
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Speaker 2: can It's not a good way to start. One last

732
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: last question. Just give me like a thirty second answer.

733
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Speaker 2: We've seen in the past where you sign a free agent,

734
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: you draft a guy like a Matt Flynn Russell Wilson,

735
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: but Russell Wilson was like a fourth fifth rounder and

736
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Speaker 2: Matt Flynn didn't have all this guaranteed money. There is

737
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: no way that if Michael Pennix is the better quarterback, like,

738
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: he's still not going to be the starter, not next year.

739
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Right, there's no way.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's what yeah, I do to make sure you

741
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: didn't pay one hundred million dollars for a backup exactly.

742
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right.

743
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aaron Torres, Carrie Rhoads in until two

744
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: pm Eastern time.

745
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Speaker 8: Uh.

746
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Speaker 2: Following us will be Steve Hartman and Rich Orenberger will

747
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: come back and the trade that shook up the first

748
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Speaker 2: round and maybe shook up the AFC title race that's next.

749
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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday erin Torres, Carry Roads, taking up till

751
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: two pm Eastern time.

752
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

753
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: My show on Saturday goes till two am Eastern, so

754
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm always used to saying two am, and I almost

755
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: slipped on the two am there. But if we're on

756
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Speaker 2: till two am. As much as I love talking about

757
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: the Draft, I think we would have run run out.

758
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 4: Talk about the two am would have been a probably

759
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: a reminder of that song that we were just listening

760
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Speaker 4: to in the club.

761
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: In the club, Yeah, you had a flask back there.

762
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: I ain't making it.

763
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am making it till two am today, I

764
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: can tell you that much. But now two pm Steve

765
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: Hartman and Rich Orenberger will follow us. Steve Hartman is

766
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: already in studio vigorously prepping for his show. All right,

767
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: So we talked to We talked a lot about a

768
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: lot of different things with the draft, and we'll get

769
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: to more draft stuff an hour two. We'll talk about

770
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: the NBA as well, But there was one storyline that

771
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: certainly caught people's attention. We talked about the Buffalo Bills earlier.

772
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott. You know whatever AFC East we were talking about.

773
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: The Jets, Yeah, I bring it up.

774
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: Bills were part of certainly what you would call maybe

775
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: the most interesting trade of round one, as they traded

776
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: the twenty first pick and a couple of late round

777
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: picks to Kansas City for the the thirty second pick

778
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: and some late picks whatever. I bring it up, by

779
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: the way, Then they traded out of the first round

780
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: to thirty three, where they did take Keyon Coleman, the

781
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: Florida state wide receiver. So that is worth noting. But

782
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: what is also worth noting is that the Kansas City

783
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: Chiefs used the twenty first pick to a year after

784
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: they struggled the wide receivers were not good. They took

785
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: literally the fastest person in the history of the.

786
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: NFL Draft combined.

787
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Speaker 2: As Xavier Worthy is the twenty first overall pick, and

788
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs not only plug the biggest hole

789
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: on their roster, but they do it with a pick

790
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: from arguably their biggest rival. Yeah, did the Buffalo Bills,

791
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: but as I said earlier in the show, have lost

792
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: in the playoffs three of the last four years to

793
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs.

794
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: Did they make a mistake. Should they have traded with

795
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: the Chiefs at all?

796
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 4: Little gamesmanship that you're that you're speaking about here, It

797
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: just it's it's tough because yes, you don't want to

798
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: give your competitor any advance, Like you.

799
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: Were a Jet forever if the Jets traded back and

800
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: the Patriots traded up, and I you swap picks with

801
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: them and then they took the one spot that they

802
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: needed to continue beating your brains in no offense because

803
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: you guys had a good track record against Belichick. But

804
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: I like, would you have been pissed as a player, Like, crap, dude,

805
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: all they needed was that one edge rusher and now

806
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: they just got him and we helped them get them.

807
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think that's a long, a long

808
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 4: game because we have to see what this guy does.

809
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: It will be one of those like the Mitch Trubisky

810
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: over Deshaun Watson and Patrick Malbs, Like if it works

811
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: out the way we think it could work out exactly,

812
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: it'll be like twenty twenty nine and we'll still be

813
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: like remember when the Bills traded for sure the picked

814
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: and they got Xavier Worthy and Patrick mahomes is thirty

815
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: nine right now, and you just won as eleven straight

816
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

817
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, but yeah, they traded down and obviously they

818
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 4: switched picks there, but they ended up getting the guy

819
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: that I'm sure that they wanted as well in Keon Coleman.

820
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: Yep.

821
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 4: And so the conversations around and that is we have

822
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Speaker 4: to wait and see, because I think Keon Coleman should

823
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: be it should have been the first round guy. And

824
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: so seeing him play and seeing him up close in

825
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: personally at Florida State, you know, being in the acc rival

826
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: of ours in Louisville, It's it's gonna be interesting because

827
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 4: I think they both got their guys. And at the

828
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Speaker 4: end of the day, if they trade down and financially

829
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: in business wise, it made sense, then that's a whole

830
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 4: different discussion.

831
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Speaker 3: But we gotta wait and see.

832
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: No, you know, it's funny because I actually don't have

833
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: as much of a problem with it as others because

834
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: it is the draft, like if you were trading in season,

835
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: like if you had traded for some reason and you

836
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't have, but if you had traded like Stefan Diggs

837
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: instead of to Houston, you trade him to can't see.

838
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: That's one thing different. But first of all, all you're

839
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: doing is trading back. All they're doing is trading up.

840
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 2: In theory, you don't really know who they're gonna take.

841
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: And I think the NFL Draft has proven you know,

842
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: nothing is guaranteed. Like even if you watch Texas this year,

843
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: Zavier Worthy was not their best wide receiver as Ady Mitchell,

844
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: who went in round two to h to the Indianapolis Colt.

845
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, it's funny, it's a great conversation piece.

846
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: I just don't know that I'm as upset and as

847
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: furious as everybody else is with it, you know what

848
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

849
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Speaker 4: So and I'm sorry. But the thing about that is,

850
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 4: I think they both got their guys. And if you're

851
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: trying to do anything in this lifetime to prevent somebody

852
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 4: else from succeeding, you're putting yourself in a disadvantage anyway.

853
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: So that's my take, and that's what I would see here.

854
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 4: Both teams got their guys. You can't try to block

855
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 4: somebody else's blessing. You got to do your own thing.

856
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: So that's how I feel about it.

857
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: Really quickly, you just mentioned it so key on Coleman,

858
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: because I watched them, and I thought, you know, kind

859
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: of a bigger receiver. And people say he doesn't have speed,

860
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: but he returned pumps for them, and I don't think

861
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: he's a burner quite like a milite neighbors. But I

862
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: really liked him. And it sounds like you did to

863
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman, the second round pick of.

864
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills. Ah crazy athletics. Yeah, beast game speeds.

865
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Speaker 4: Totally different than what he ran in his forty know,

866
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: it's forty times a little it was a little slower,

867
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Speaker 4: but he's going to be a gamer for sure.

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Speaker 2: No, I thought this wide receiver class was really good.

869
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: I like Marvin Harrison. Marvin Harrison in defense of him.

870
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: The quarterback play was not good the last year post CJ. Stroud, Right,

871
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: but I love milite neighbors real quick. You like melite neighbors.

872
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: I mean, not for the Giants because they don't have

873
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: a real quarterback.

874
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: But he's a beast crazy right that conversation around them

875
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: possibly taking quarterback there, I was like, Okay, that didn't

876
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 4: make sense either, talk about that.

877
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: But I think it's gonna be a great fit.

878
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 4: He seems like a guy that's really committed to what

879
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 4: he does too, so I'm excited to see what he does.

880
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: Incredible, incredible draft, and we're going to revisit a lot

881
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: of stuff in around two. In hour or two, we'll

882
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about Drake May and the Patriots

883
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: and maybe some elite neighbors and the New York Giants

884
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: as well. But I'll tell you what, Carrie, we will

885
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: come back. And when we come back, we got to

886
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: talk a little bit of NBA. The Lakers survived last night.

887
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: We'll see if the Suns do. And the box who

888
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: interesting news. We'll discuss that all next Fox Sports turning.

889
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890
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,160
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896
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Speaker 2: got a nice comment from Sandra on our hour one

897
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: conversation about Kirk Cousins. She said, thank you both for

898
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: your comments on Kirk Cousins. I am so tired of

899
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: hearing sports media folks all boooo over this for him?

900
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: Do they think this is fifth grade cyo football? I

901
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: don't know why anyone cares what Cousin thinks this. Sandra,

902
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: thank you. You know you know who does not care

903
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: about what Kirk Cousins thinks me. Suck it up, Buttercup.

904
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: We can argue over whether the picks should have been made.

905
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: I just don't want your whining. And not only do

906
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: I want your whining. You just got to Atlanta thirty

907
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: seconds ago. Just go out, work the locker room, meet

908
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: the guys, do whatever it is that quarterbacks do to

909
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: ingratiate themselves. You know, Tom Brady was having practices in

910
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: public parks during COVID, Right, go have.

911
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: Practice somewhere, dude, I'm over it. So Sandra, Sandra knows

912
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: what and he's and he's he's well taken care of,

913
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 3: so he's okay. Yes, yeah, yeah.

914
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: I saw a producer ian who I love, and I'm

915
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: not criticizing him. He's like, well, Kirk Cousins moved his

916
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: whole family to Atlanta. It's like, yeah, they're gonna live

917
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: in a big freaking mansion in Atlanta. Okay, like, no

918
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: boohoo for a guy that got a hundred million guaranteed.

919
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 4: All right.

920
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: And by the way, he can retire.

921
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: I mean he could just not play and you know,

922
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: keep all you know, not get all that money. I

923
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 2: don't think his his wife or his family's gonna.

924
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: Want that either, all right.

925
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: So NBA four games are about to tip off, starting

926
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: right now in just a few minutes, with game four

927
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: of the of the Philadelphia and New York series. We'll

928
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: get to that in a minute. First of all, a

929
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: couple things won the late breaking news. As Monci just

930
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: told us, Isaac told us last hour. Milwaukee Bucks will

931
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: be without Damian Lillard and Giannis Antennacupo in their game

932
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: later today against the Indiana Pacers. Game is in Indiana.

933
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Pacers already are up two to one. Tyre's Halliburton with

934
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: that big bucket late in the game the other night.

935
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: This is this series?

936
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: Is it?

937
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: Is it over? This series? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's told.

938
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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of people, myself included picked the

939
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: Pacers when this before the series started.

940
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: And then it's was it because of Giannis's health or

941
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: you like the matchup or I just like the matchup.

942
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: The Pacers are team that can score a lot of points, obviously,

943
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 4: one of the one of the highest scored and average

944
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: teams in the league, and Milwaukee had problems stopping people

945
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 4: all year, and so just the matchup and even in

946
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 4: the regular season, that matchup was one that gave Milwaukee problems.

947
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: And so coming into this series, No, Johannis obviously will

948
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: help Indianapolis. Indianapolis, it's calls, yep, But yeah, I just

949
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: felt they were had too much firepower for Milwaukee coming in.

950
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't really much add because I do think the

951
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: series is over as well. What would it say about

952
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: the Bucks? I mean, obviously, you know, you trade, I

953
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: think they missed your holiday, man. I mean I I

954
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: just they can't get stops. And obviously there's the Damian

955
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: Loward element of it, there's the Doc Rivers element of it. Yeah,

956
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: but you know, this would be what the really third

957
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: straight season that they don't get out of round two

958
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: because last year they obviously lost to Miami. The year before,

959
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: Giannis was a monster against Boston, but he just I

960
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: think who was it? Middleton was hurt in that series. So,

961
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: but what would it say about the Bucks if they

962
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: can't even get out of round one, although there are

963
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: injuries whatever.

964
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 4: I think there's dysfunction there. Obviously there's some stuff behind

965
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 4: closed doors that we don't know yet, but it will

966
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: come out, you know how it always does. I mean,

967
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 4: obviously for the coach to be fired, you know midway

968
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 4: during the season with the second best record in the

969
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 4: East is there's some calls for concern there. I mean,

970
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 4: you can even go back to before the regular season

971
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: started where they bring in you know, Dame Lillard's old coach,

972
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: Terry Stotts, and he leaves before the season shore. So

973
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 4: there's just so much stuff there that's happening. It's almost

974
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 4: one of those things where when you again we talked

975
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 4: about the Kirk Cousins thing where you try to acquiesce

976
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 4: to the star. Obviously they're doing that with the Giannis

977
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 4: with his brother being on the team and not playing

978
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 4: and not good enough to really be on that team. Like,

979
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: there are some things that are bubbling up there and

980
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: so calls to concern for them internally. But even on

981
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 4: the court, they never really seem to figure it out

982
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: this year and Janna's Dame situation that they're two headed monster.

983
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: It looks like it should have been a seamless fit,

984
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 4: but it hasn't been.

985
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: Either Let's go to one of the Lake games today

986
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: or the late game today game four Minnesota and Phoenix.

987
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 3: And we talked a little bit about this last.

988
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 2: Week when I was in with you in this time slot.

989
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 2: I never thought the Brad Beal, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant

990
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: thing would work. We just have Yeah, we just have

991
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: a track record of in this era, three guys with

992
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: no bench.

993
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: It's not gonna work.

994
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: By the way, the best example of it involved Katie

995
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn. Yeah, Katie, Kyrie James Harden for all the

996
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: ink that was spilled, wins one playoff series the entire time.

997
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: And I find this whole situation interesting. So they're down

998
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: three to zero. Even if they somehow win, it's like

999
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: the Lakers last I mean, we could have overanalyzed the

1000
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: Lakers and Nuggets, but the Lakers aren't winning four straight

1001
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: to win that series. And so we'll talk about the

1002
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: Lakers in a minute. But even if the Suns win today,

1003
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: this is over. I don't think it's gonna work. But

1004
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do either, because you've traded

1005
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: all your assets. You've traded your draft capital. And like

1006
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: I know that in the NBA, like draft picks aren't

1007
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: as valuable as the NFL obviously, but you can still

1008
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: if you're a good team, you can get veterans in

1009
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: the back half, older college players in the back half

1010
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: of the first round that can help you. You know,

1011
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: Christian Brown last year as a rookie was a very

1012
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: key contributor for the for the Denver Nuggets. Hime Hakkas

1013
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: for the Miami Heat this year. So there are ways

1014
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: to get for lack of a better term, cheap labor

1015
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: in the NBA.

1016
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 3: But the Suns can't do it.

1017
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: And like it was crazy yesterday on the on the broadcast,

1018
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: like they flashed what those contracts look like. I mean,

1019
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: they're the big three are all making forty five, fifty

1020
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: to fifty five million a year, like for two to

1021
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 2: three four more years. It's not like, you know, Brad

1022
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: Beeal comes off the books next year and it's like

1023
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: you got to get through one more year.

1024
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 7: This.

1025
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 2: I just I think it's so. I think it's over

1026
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: before it started. I was telling my radio part of

1027
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 2: Jason Martin last night. I do feel kind of bad

1028
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: for Kevin Durant. Now he's picked all these situations, but

1029
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: he can't pick them.

1030
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: You know.

1031
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you have friends that can't pick

1032
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: a girlfriend or a boyfriend, like he can't pick situations

1033
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: in the NBA. And so that's the one that to

1034
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: me is more interesting because I just don't know what

1035
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: they do to get out of their current situation, and

1036
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't think their current situation is going to work

1037
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form.

1038
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: Well, KD made the right choice and then renigged on

1039
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 4: that choice, right he went to Golden State, where if

1040
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: he's still in Golden State now, they may win.

1041
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: A couple more times.

1042
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 4: And so that's that part, right, Like it's always the

1043
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: grass is greener on the other side, and it's not

1044
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 4: like you want to get into such a situation where

1045
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: instead of putting in the time, putting in the work,

1046
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: actually committing to something, and you know there's gonna be

1047
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 4: down moments in anything that you do. The first sign

1048
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 4: of trouble or the first down moment doesn't always mean

1049
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: you run. And so for him to leave that situation

1050
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: with a little scuffle with you know, with the Draymond

1051
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: Green and all those things, and I'm sure there was

1052
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: more things that happened during that journey. But you leave

1053
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: that situation where it's you look at it, look at

1054
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: it from the outside looking in, it's the most stable

1055
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 4: situation out and you go to something that you want

1056
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: to experience and experience.

1057
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: For your life. You start to regret those choices.

1058
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: And so I don't feel bad for him in Phoenix

1059
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 4: and the places that he's gone because that's his choice.

1060
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: But when you look at that team the way they're built,

1061
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: those three we talked about it last week, don't fit.

1062
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 3: They don't. They don't fit.

1063
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: Like, if you're gonna have KD and Booker, which they

1064
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: had first, you bring in the true point guard.

1065
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: Well, can I jump in on that road?

1066
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Because I mentioned this last night, and

1067
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: I think this is what's gonna happen with the Lakers

1068
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: this offseason. Is I think whenever you lose, especially early,

1069
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: I think there's always this belief that it's a disaster.

1070
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: We got to blow it up, we got to shake

1071
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: up everything.

1072
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: Right, But you go back to last year, the Sun's

1073
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: actually played the Nuggets tougher than anybody in the playoffs.

1074
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: They took two. Now that's not good enough. You don't

1075
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: want to lose four to two in the second round

1076
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: of the playoffs. But when you counter it with the

1077
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: Lakers got swept, the Heat took one, Yeah, you took

1078
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: two in the Western Conference finals. In the finals, you

1079
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: were closer to them than those teams were. And that

1080
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: was with Chris Paul, with DeAndre and whatever.

1081
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1082
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: And I always say I'm not saying that teams shouldn't

1083
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: try to get better. Yeah, but I think there's this thought,

1084
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 2: and it feels like it's in the NBA more than anything,

1085
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: is that when you lose early, it has to be

1086
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: this seismic blow up, shake up, whatever, and sometimes it's

1087
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: like the little tinkering. And I just think also, the

1088
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: Nuggets are a great team. The pieces all fit, and

1089
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: the pieces are all still either in their prime or

1090
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: just entering their prime, and it's like it sucks. I

1091
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: know that's not what Kevin Durant wants to here coming

1092
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: out of a season, or Lebron James or Devin Booker,

1093
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: but it's like, you look at the Suns, they actually

1094
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: weren't as far off with the Chris Paul DeAndre Aan

1095
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: thing as I think they probably thought a year ago.

1096
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me talk about like when you put equity

1097
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: in something. You want to see those returns. There's no

1098
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: bigger example of that than the NBA. They're making big

1099
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 4: investments and they want those investments to be returned right away.

1100
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 3: That's not how it works.

1101
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: Even in you go back to go back through history

1102
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 4: and look at teams that won, even those early those

1103
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 4: those ninety Chicago Bulls teams.

1104
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: They lost a lot.

1105
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the playoffs, you're gonna break Scotti, Pittman and

1106
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan up because they lost a couple of rounds

1107
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 4: of the playoffs. And and you know in that era

1108
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 4: where obviously it was a tough era in Boston, and

1109
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: you know La and the Pistons obviously at that time

1110
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: were giving them fits.

1111
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: They figured it out. You have to invest in in time,

1112
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: in equity.

1113
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 4: You have to give that relationship, those games, those teams

1114
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: time to bloom. If you don't have patience in sports

1115
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 4: or in life, you will fail and fail miserably. But

1116
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 4: by trying to run and chase other things, that isn't

1117
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 4: in the cards for you right now.

1118
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean it won't be. No.

1119
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: I agree, and I think you know and we you know,

1120
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: we talk about and first of all, by the way.

1121
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: You know, He's another example that the Nuggets. The Nuggets

1122
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: lost was they lose it. They lost in the Western

1123
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: Conference finals in the bubble, I think, or whatever, and

1124
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: then you know, they lost a few times and it's okay,

1125
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 2: and they stuck together.

1126
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: There wasn't a massive blow up. It wasn't.

1127
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing too, is maybe it

1128
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: was just that previous era of guys where I think

1129
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: Lebron really kind of set the tone. But Lebron was

1130
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: so good that like he could go to Cleveland and

1131
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: in a year they'd be in the finals, you know.

1132
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: But it's not the same for James Harden.

1133
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: It's not the same for Kawhi Leonard except for the

1134
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: one year in Toronto, It's not the same for whoever.

1135
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: And even Kevin Durant.

1136
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: It's like it's clear that as great as he is individually,

1137
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: there needs to be a structure around him, like there

1138
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: wasn't Alahoma City like there was in Golden State. So

1139
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what else there is to say. I

1140
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: just think the Suns are just a sad case study

1141
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: of of what you just said is like just rush

1142
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: no patience, you know. I think part of it's a

1143
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: new owner aging Superstar. But it's like, I'm not saying

1144
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: they would have won it if Chris Paul and DeAndre

1145
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: Ayton were on this team. I just think they were

1146
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: probably a little closer than they thought, and they're certainly

1147
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: a little bit closer than they were than they are now.

1148
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean just structurally they were they were

1149
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 3: built to win.

1150
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 4: Star structurally as a team as the team piece bringing

1151
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: and it wouldn't have worked, obviously, But imagine if they

1152
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 4: had that core right now and then you bring in

1153
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: another Bradley Beal type for cheaper.

1154
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: Scharlotte Bill is not a needle mover anyway. Look at

1155
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: like Contavius Cole Pop just fills a role. Aaron Gordon.

1156
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just that, like taking these big swings with

1157
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: offenses is more about the ego of the owner.

1158
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: I agree, And that's really what it boils down to

1159
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns. They are the late game this evening. They

1160
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: will play Minnesota in a win or the season is over.

1161
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: Game.

1162
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: By the way, we do have one game has just

1163
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: tipped off in Philadelphia. The New York Knicks up two

1164
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: to one on the Philadelphia seventy six Ers four to four.

1165
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: In that game in early the first quarter.

1166
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Erintoris Kerry Roads, tell you what, Kerry,

1167
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: We'll come back, maybe talk a little Lakers. Then we

1168
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: got to get back to the NFL Draft. Plenty more

1169
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: to discuss. That's all next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody,

1170
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday Aeron Torres, Carrie Rhodes

1171
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: broadcasting here in La.

1172
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: Carrie.

1173
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: What else from the NFL Draft? We talked a lot

1174
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: in our one about the Bills and then and they're

1175
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: trade with the Chiefs, and we talked a lot about

1176
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix versus Kirk Cousins, that little whiney. You know what,

1177
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: what is the biggest story that we have not hit

1178
00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: on yet?

1179
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: I think the biggest with.

1180
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: The draft, Uh, for me, it's always seeing the family reactions,

1181
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: you know, really really getting to see how guys, a

1182
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: lot of guys it's dreams are coming true in real

1183
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 4: time for people to see. And you have those moments

1184
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 4: to have those in you know, in closed doors cameras,

1185
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: capturing these images and these special moments between you know,

1186
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: the players and their families. Man, I think that's the

1187
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 4: biggest thing. And you know, also seeing some of the

1188
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 4: guys where they feel like they've dropped or they feel

1189
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 4: like they've been overlooked.

1190
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: It's all sentimentally special until your brock bowers and you're

1191
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: going to the Raiders exactly right.

1192
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 3: It's just pissed and mad and angry, and that part, yeah,

1193
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 3: you get. You get to see that in real time.

1194
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 3: So I like that.

1195
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 4: I like that part of the story that really kind

1196
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: of encapsulates the draft because there's highs, there's lows, there's

1197
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 4: all those things in between, and there's also moments where

1198
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 4: you feel slighted and you come out and you take

1199
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 4: it out in the league.

1200
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: So it's cool.

1201
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. So you mentioned it earlier,

1202
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: and I'm in agreement with you. There was I think

1203
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 2: two narratives that I did not understand at all going

1204
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: into the draft. The first one was, first of all,

1205
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: the idea that the Chargers are gonna trade Justin Herbert

1206
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: was the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

1207
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: You know, anybody who knows Jim Harbaugh and I don't,

1208
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: but I know people who do. They're like, the whole

1209
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: reason he took that job was because he wanted to

1210
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: coach Justin Herbert, Right, but then never thought they were

1211
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: gonna get a weapon for him. Thought they were gonna

1212
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: go with whatever was the best offensive or defensive lineman.

1213
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: They do, And of course Jim Harbaugh then says, quote,

1214
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: I believe offensive linemen are weapons. So what do you

1215
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: think of the team that he is building. They have

1216
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 2: we'll call them skill position guys, since Jim Harbaugh doesn't

1217
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: deem just wide receivers and running backs as weapons. But

1218
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: they've gotten rid of a few wide receivers, clearly rebuilding

1219
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: through the old line defenses.

1220
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 3: They have the pieces.

1221
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 2: They just had an incompetent play call in Brandon Staley,

1222
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 2: But that's neither here nor there.

1223
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 3: What do you make of the early stage of the

1224
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 3: Harball rebuild outside of the quarterback position.

1225
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 4: The needs that need to be met for a team

1226
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 4: to be an actual contender starts up front. Sure, and

1227
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 4: you build that way. Jim Harball is old school. He

1228
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 4: knows how, he knows how to build teams, and every

1229
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 4: situation he's been in, he's won. So if I was

1230
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 4: a fan, if I was somebody like doubting him building

1231
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 4: a team to compete and to win, I would say,

1232
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 4: pumpy breaks, Yeah, give him a little time and obviously

1233
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 4: we don't live in an era what time is.

1234
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: Valued like it should.

1235
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, you got to build up front, and if

1236
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 4: you don't have the big uglies upfront that can control

1237
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 4: the game on both sides of the ball, you won't

1238
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 4: win anyway.

1239
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: So I like to pick for them. Yeah, I mean,

1240
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 2: you want your coach to be true to who he is.

1241
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 2: And I think that was the problem with the last

1242
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: guy was Brandon Staley. I don't think he stayed true

1243
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: to who he was. I think he thought he was

1244
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: the analytics guy that it backfired and he wasn't the

1245
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: analytics guy.

1246
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1247
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 2: Harball is a run first defense kind of guy, or

1248
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: you know, a ball control is probably right way to

1249
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: put it. It's like, you know who that helps more

1250
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: than anybody, justin Herbert. He doesn't have to put up

1251
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 2: thirty eight points every game now, and and I think

1252
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: it is gonna work out so well for them. I'm

1253
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: so you know, we talked about the Jets and all

1254
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: these teams that we're excited to see. I would put

1255
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: the Chargers up there with anybody. The other narrative that

1256
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: I never understood I didn't buy was that the Giants

1257
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna draft a quarterback. And it's just because you

1258
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: do this long enough and you know the kind of

1259
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: ethos of certain organizations, and the Giants are conservative.

1260
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: It's the marras.

1261
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: You know, they're kind of the opposite of the Belichick Patriots,

1262
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: where like Belichick will get rid of a guy a

1263
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: year head of schedule. Yeah, it feels like the Giants

1264
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: are more give the coach the extra year, give the QB.

1265
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: Remember that.

1266
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: Remember when it was like the biggest story because they

1267
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: wanted to bench Eli, but they were afraid to bench

1268
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: Eli because he had the Dart streak going. And it's like, well,

1269
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: we can't do Eli dirty like that, and it's just like, yeah,

1270
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: if he's not the best option, and I think he

1271
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: probably still was in hindsight, I don't even remember who

1272
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: the backup was. But the point I'm trying to make

1273
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: is that that's just not like the ethos of the

1274
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: Giants isn't to be paying Daniel Jones even a reasonable

1275
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: thirty thirty five million dollars whatever it is relative to

1276
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks, right, but it's not to pay that guy

1277
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: and also draft another guy and especially in his situation

1278
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: that could that couldn't probably will take Daniel Jones spot.

1279
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: So I never understood that giants end up with malike neighbors.

1280
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1281
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, I I'm a Daniel Jones. I

1282
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 4: don't believe. I don't believe Daniel Jones is the guy.

1283
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 4: So for me personally, obviously, you can't make that move

1284
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 4: right now because it looks like you're wrong sure to

1285
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 4: take a quarterback. So that was my thinking, not that

1286
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 4: they shouldn't have taken a quarter I agree, Yeah, So

1287
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 4: it's it's that, it's that for me, it's if they

1288
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 4: took a quarterback at that spot right now, you're saying

1289
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 4: you're wrong sure as a GM, and so that I

1290
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 4: just don't think that would have happened.

1291
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with being wrong, by the way, No,

1292
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: of course I don't own it. Now the question becomes

1293
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: after that top three It was kind of a you know,

1294
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: how much do you like guys?

1295
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: Now?

1296
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: We know in hindsight Atlanta rarely like Michael Pennix, But

1297
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: you know JJ McCarthy at his questions. Bo Nix is

1298
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: a little bit older, has his questions. But I think

1299
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: that's a dumb way to do things. But I think

1300
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: you're ultimately right. I agree that that was the thought process.

1301
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: I just think it's a dumb way to do things.

1302
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, if it's not the right guy and

1303
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: you missed, then you move on. And that's the New

1304
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 4: England way that you talked about earlier, Right, they don't

1305
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 4: sit on that, Like if you.

1306
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: Prove that you're not the guy, you're not the guy.

1307
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 4: But anyway, but I think Malik neighbors in that situation,

1308
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 4: giving you know, your quarterback another weapon, a weapon that

1309
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: I really feel is going to have a really, really,

1310
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 4: really good career. I mean, the guy's mindset is just

1311
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 4: about competing and being the best version of himself. I

1312
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 4: hope that elite neighbors. Yeah, do you know him personally,

1313
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: I don't, But just hearing the stories of him, and

1314
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 4: I've seen like interviews of him talk and he's something

1315
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 4: you talked about Ryan Clark earlier, where they had to

1316
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 4: sit down with with your league and so just hearing

1317
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 4: him talk and where he came from, and you know,

1318
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 4: he wasn't always the guy in theory. He had to

1319
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 4: earn his earn his way, and so I like those

1320
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 4: guys and those stories. I just hope in that New

1321
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 4: York market he's able to keep that keep that same

1322
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: mentality and operate from that space.

1323
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think the talent isn't the problem.

1324
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: I just think it's the guy getting him the ball.

1325
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't know enough about his background

1326
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: to know if he's like blow up on the sidelines

1327
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: if he's not getting the ball guy, But if he is,

1328
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: I think I think we will. It's gonna come out

1329
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: next year. So Giants go to Mileak neighbors and the

1330
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: Chargers obviously go with the offensive line.

1331
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: No surprise there.

1332
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: Tell you what, I do want to come back and

1333
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: discuss what I think is the toughest situation for any

1334
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: first rounder.

1335
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: We'll get to that next.

1336
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: But for the first time this afternoon, let's toss it

1337
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: off news desk Mazi Belanios. Who's over there watching nineteen

1338
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: ninety four Clippers highlights?

1339
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 3: Is she was in it? Right? And she was in it?

1340
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: Who was on that squad?

1341
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 7: I'm actually watching Kean Coleman's first press conference as a

1342
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 7: member of the Bills.

1343
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: Oh that that sound is making the round? Yeah, that's

1344
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: literally what I was looking at. And then I hear

1345
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's me, that's me.

1346
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 7: As I'm also watching this Knicks game because yes, mellas

1347
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 7: the playoffs continue today. Right now, Philly has the early

1348
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 7: lead against the Knicks. It's fifteen to thirteen with about

1349
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 7: five minutes to go in the first quarter. Jalen Brunson

1350
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 7: leading the way for New York. He's got eight points

1351
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 7: for the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

1352
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: It's Joelle emb six points, but it's very early. We'll

1353
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: see how this one goes. New York does lead the

1354
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: series two to one.

1355
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 7: We have three other game fours, Mavericks Clippers, let's not talk.

1356
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 3: About it because Carrie's here. Mads lead the series two

1357
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 3: to one.

1358
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 7: Then the Bucks are taking on the Pacers in Indiana.

1359
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 7: Milwaukee again will be with Aulianisntetokompo without Damian Lillard.

1360
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: We'll see how that one goes.

1361
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 7: And then the Phoenix Suns will try to keep their

1362
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 7: season alive against the Minnesota Timberwolves or the Timberwolves are

1363
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 7: gonna bring out the brooms. That's the last game for

1364
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 7: today at nine thirty pm Eastern time on the ice.

1365
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 3: There is a possibility of a sweep as well.

1366
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 7: Four game fours in the NHL as well, they're going

1367
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 7: through Round one of the playoffs. The Rangers are going

1368
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 7: to try to close out the series with the sweep

1369
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 7: against the Capitals. The puck is set to drop at

1370
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 7: eight pm Eastern time for that when we got a

1371
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 7: lot of baseball.

1372
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 3: That's about to start. And how about this guy?

1373
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 7: Sonny Vaccaro told TMZ Sports that he thinks that Caitlin

1374
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 7: Clark's people dropped the ball, that her deal with nike

1375
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 7: should have been just as good as Michael Jordan's, that

1376
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 7: he is surprised it's only twenty eight for eight million,

1377
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 7: and he thinks he should have She should have gotten

1378
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 7: a piece for basically everything, just like Michael did. And

1379
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 7: he says that her people dropped the ball, and then

1380
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 7: Nike took advantage that everybody else kind.

1381
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: Of like stopped trying.

1382
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 7: And so he's like, no, this is it should have

1383
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 7: been more, is what he's saying.

1384
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: Wow, that's what market negotiation has got to get. DTAs

1385
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: involved sneakers.

1386
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 4: One you don't you don't you don't want to hoop

1387
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 4: and those you don't want to totally.

1388
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, a while the Big Baller brand put in an

1389
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: offer for Kaylyn Clark or.

1390
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: What probably probably I don't think they have.

1391
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: The cash depends on if LeVar is going to take

1392
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 2: out a loan from LaMelo or not? Oh man, is he?

1393
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: Is he on the market for that LaVar LaMelo? Well,

1394
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: I think LaVar's just chilling. So you guys don't know this.

1395
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: That was how I got in at Fox Sports Radio.

1396
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: So I'm a college hoops guy and I knew that

1397
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: family since Lonzo was probably a sophomore and so, uh

1398
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,959
Speaker 2: so I just became like the guy whenever LeVar said

1399
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: something crazy, they were like, Torres, what do you think

1400
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: about LeVar saying whatever?

1401
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: And I'd be like, oh, you know, that's the var

1402
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 3: and then it's kind of a flex.

1403
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: It was asked Jason Smith. Jason Smith called me the

1404
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: LeVar ball whisper. Actually, Mike Harmon was just here he

1405
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: could have confirmed that. But uh but yeah, big Baller

1406
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: brand did not go according to plan.

1407
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's a nice way to put it back

1408
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: to you guys. Thank you real quick. Do you have

1409
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 3: any big Caitlyn Clark takes No. I mean I think

1410
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 3: what MONSI just said.

1411
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 4: It's funny because I just watched the The King Richard

1412
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 4: movie last night. And so when Venus was on the

1413
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 4: market to sign with Nike, Nike offered her a three

1414
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 4: million dollar deal. So for a fourteen year old girl

1415
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 4: in their family coming from Compton, three million dollar sounds

1416
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 4: like a lot, and you're like, ah, I should probably

1417
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 4: sign this deal. And this is before her first actual

1418
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 4: professional matches. She won the first one, came back and

1419
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 4: won it, and they, you know, they upped the deal

1420
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 4: to four million, and her coach at the time was like,

1421
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 4: you should take this deal, like they're not getting this

1422
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 4: and they and they held out. She loses to a

1423
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 4: Rancho Sanchez Viccario in the next round, but plays really

1424
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 4: well and next thing you know, she walks out and

1425
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 4: all these girl fans, these little girls and you know,

1426
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 4: black girls and just girls all over the world are

1427
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 4: like celebrating her. All the other all the other brands

1428
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 4: came to the table and at the end of the

1429
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 4: day she signs with Nike. The number was I think

1430
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 4: it was end up being eighteen million.

1431
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

1432
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 4: So they tried to sign a deal, say it was

1433
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 4: on the table for twenty four hours. They cut the deal.

1434
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 4: She ends up making a lot more money and like

1435
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 4: eight in less than eight months, and so wait it out.

1436
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 3: Make your money.

1437
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 4: Caitlyn probably could have done more for sure if that

1438
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 4: was the deal back then, So yes, I think it

1439
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 4: was a misstep.

1440
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 3: Like Carl said.

1441
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 2: But do you have any takes on like what she's

1442
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: gonna do for the wm YA do you like, are

1443
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 2: you team Kaitlyn Clark anti Kaitlyn Clark or no?

1444
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: Oh no, no no.

1445
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm a fan of what she does. I

1446
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: think she's a brilliant basketball player.

1447
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 3: I do.

1448
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 4: I do caution people saying she's the best ever because

1449
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: I just don't think that's an accurate depiction of her.

1450
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: Yet I agree, but she can be yeah.

1451
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: Uh And I say this unbiasedly, but even as a

1452
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: Yukon guy, like obviously I probably watched more women's ball

1453
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: as a kid than most people. I do think it

1454
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: bothered me a little bit that like people were Basically

1455
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 2: I think the insinuation was like she elevated the like

1456
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: there have been a lot of women before her that

1457
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: have really helped get to the point where Kaitlyn Clark

1458
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: can have the stage that she does now. It's not

1459
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: just Yukon girls. It's you know, Rebecca Lobo certainly from Yukon,

1460
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: Diana Trozi, but Candace Parker, Shamiqui holes Claw, and so

1461
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: that was the only thing that bothered me was and

1462
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: that's society right now, right is like everything that's happening

1463
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: in the moment is the greatest thing ever, and everything

1464
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: that's happened before it doesn't matter. Something anyway, really quick,

1465
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: what your takes. So you we talked about this last week.

1466
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 2: You played for the Jets, played for Mangini, you know

1467
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: the Belichick tree well, and I am worried for Drake

1468
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 2: May in the Patriots. And let me just really quickly

1469
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: that I brought this up to my partner last night.

1470
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was a great point. I mean,

1471
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: you know whatever, I mean, surprise, surprise. You look at

1472
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: all six quarterbacks that were taken this year in the

1473
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: first round, and I think you can all argue that

1474
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: it is a semi advantageous situation for them except for once,

1475
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: let me lay it out, Kayleb Williams, Okay, defensive head coach, whatever,

1476
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: But they draft Romadonza, they sign a bunch of guys.

1477
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: They clearly want Caleb Williams to work there. Yes, number two,

1478
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels defensive head coach, but Cliff Kingsbury is there.

1479
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: You'd assume that, really you know Kingsbury's gonna run the offense.

1480
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: Dan dan Quinn is gonna be hands off. So then

1481
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 2: you go to the back half. Michael Pennix. Do we

1482
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: like to pick do we not? He's a backup, He's

1483
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: got time to develop whatever you have. JJ McCarthy obviously

1484
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: great situation justin Jefferson, my Minnesota Vikings whatever.

1485
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: And of course bo Nicks is gonna work. Is it

1486
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 3: not gonna work well?

1487
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 2: Sean Payton whether you like him, whether you hate him,

1488
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: And maybe we touch on Sean Payton in the final

1489
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: final segment. Sean Payton is pretty good with quarterbacks. The

1490
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: one guy that I did not mention, Drake May, who's

1491
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: pretty much the youngest and probably needs the most work,

1492
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 2: is going to the defensive culture with no weapons, first

1493
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: year head coach, defensive guy who came up under Belichick.

1494
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm worried about him.

1495
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he can't work, because there's so much

1496
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: of a track record of just not knowing in the

1497
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: draft process.

1498
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 3: But I do worry about Drake May and New England.

1499
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've seen we've seen New England try to

1500
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 4: deviate from having the top tier, top notch athletes on

1501
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 4: the offensive side of the ball for a long time.

1502
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 4: They've managed that well when you have a guy like

1503
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 4: Tom Brady at the helm. So I think that's been

1504
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 4: their approach. Now he's not gonna be able to succeed

1505
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 4: in that situation and it's just not going to happen.

1506
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 4: So they're gonna have to bring and bring weapons around.

1507
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 4: But right now he's definitely in the toughest spot. And yeah,

1508
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 4: they're they're they're going to be in the bottom of

1509
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 4: the fcast for sure right now.

1510
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really funny.

1511
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: I remember I was on air Old Studio next Door

1512
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: with Arnie Spanier the night that the Patriots lost the

1513
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 2: Titans in the wild on Wildcard weekend. It was Brady's

1514
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: last game, and I remember sitting there like, Wow, this

1515
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 2: guy's washed up. Can do this, can't do that. And

1516
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 2: then in like one game in Tampa with Mike Evans,

1517
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: with Chris Godwin, with Antonio Brown at the time exactly,

1518
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,919
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, he's still awesome. They just had nobody

1519
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 2: there and it hasn't improved. And my question for you,

1520
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: like Durrod Mao, I don't know if you played with

1521
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: him or you know him or whatever.

1522
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but independent of whether you know him or not.

1523
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 2: My concern is we can say, oh, it's a fresh

1524
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: era and he's gonna say all the right things, but

1525
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: he's a Belichick guy.

1526
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: That essentially that's all he.

1527
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: Knows, and so I don't really know how much like

1528
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 2: that culture is going to change, the way things is

1529
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: run is going to change, Like do you think that's

1530
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 2: fair to say? I think it has to change. But

1531
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: do you think he not that he's capable. He's clearly capable.

1532
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: He's a smart guy all that. But if all you

1533
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 2: know is one way in one thing to do like

1534
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 2: a three sixty, which is kind of what has to

1535
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: happen in New England right now, do you think yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah.

1536
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be hard to debate from that.

1537
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 4: But for him personally, I hope he does because he's

1538
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 4: going to have to use that organization with some more

1539
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 4: energy and his way of doing things. Because if you're

1540
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 4: essentially in a situation where let's take for example, the

1541
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 4: Duke situation right where Coach K was there forever and

1542
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,839
Speaker 4: you bring on one of his disciple players, John Shire,

1543
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 4: and you know Coach K still still has an office

1544
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 4: there like that looming over you will create that situation

1545
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 4: where it stays the same. But I see with Bill

1546
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 4: Belichick being out the door being gone, it's a chance

1547
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 4: for Mayo to implement his type of play, his style

1548
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 4: and hopefully start fresh from there because they're gonna need it.

1549
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 3: And I think that's probably the right way to approach

1550
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 3: it well.

1551
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 2: And the one thing, too, is the most important thing

1552
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: is you have support from the guy upstairs. The boss

1553
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: clearly wants things to change, yes, and so we'll see

1554
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: if they do. But yeah, I think it's a tough

1555
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: spot for Drake may We will see. I think of

1556
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: all six quarterbacks usually because you know, usually guys taking

1557
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: that top four, top five, top six, even top ten,

1558
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 2: you're kind of going to a bad situation whatever. And

1559
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: I think most of them are headed to at least

1560
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 2: a decent situation except for except for Drake Mayos, except

1561
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: for Drod Mayo.

1562
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 3: We'll see. We'll see about that. Fox Sports Radio Aaron

1563
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: Torres and Carrie Rhodes taking you to the top of

1564
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: the hour.

1565
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: We'll come back. One more draft thought and some great

1566
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: sound from last night that you got to listen to.

1567
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 3: That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

1568
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 2: Come on, Aaron I actually don't know the words of

1569
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: this song. I do like the background. I'm sorry, I'm

1570
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: not I've said this before. People make fun of me.

1571
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm not really like a huge music guy. Like when

1572
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: I listen when I get in the car, I listen

1573
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 2: to radio or sports.

1574
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 3: Podcasts, Like that's not I don't lyrics, torres loose. Just

1575
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 3: be yourself. Nobody's listening. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Whoa profet?

1576
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: Iron shouts, all right, one more NFL draft take before

1577
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 2: we get out of here. Only quarterback we really well,

1578
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: we didn't talk much about Jae and Daniels, but.

1579
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 3: Bow Knicks and Denver.

1580
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 2: So another one that, like, I feel like everybody was

1581
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 2: kind of in their mock drafts projecting bow Knicks to Denver,

1582
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: and it was because, hey, you know, they're not going

1583
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 2: to get one of those top three guys, but they

1584
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: need a quarterback. Then they trade for Zach Wilson during

1585
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: the week was Zach Wilson's clearly not going to be

1586
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: your starter. So there was a little bit of like

1587
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 2: I saw a little pushback on the decision. I didn't

1588
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: really get it because I thought they were always going

1589
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: to take a quarterback. But just in general, your thoughts

1590
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: on bo Nicks, but also of course the rebuild that

1591
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 2: Sean Payton is in the middle of this year, this

1592
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 2: year in Denver.

1593
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, bo Knicks is a success story to me. Seeing

1594
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 4: him in Auburn, I didn't I didn't think that. I

1595
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 4: didn't think the kick can throw the ball. M I

1596
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 4: mean it was bad, he was, and he was a

1597
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 4: very hillard that coming in. But seeing him there, I

1598
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 4: thought his career was over. So the go to Oregon

1599
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 4: in Revamp's career and be a first round draft pick

1600
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 4: is It's great, Just an amazing story. Now as far

1601
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 4: as Sean Payton and that rebuild and what he's trying

1602
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 4: to do and build in Denver, he's one.

1603
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 3: I just I'm not a Sean Payton fan.

1604
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 4: I think that he feels that he's the smartest guy

1605
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 4: in the room all the time, and he doesn't try

1606
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 4: to hide that at all. Sure, so it's like one

1607
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 4: of those things where Sean humble yourself. You didn't outsmart

1608
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 4: everybody people like you just said in the mock drafts

1609
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 4: had you taking bow Nicks. He's like, I tricked these

1610
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 4: other guys to think that I'm gonna move up to

1611
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 4: take No, we know who you like, so just relax

1612
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 4: and rebuild your team. So just for me with the

1613
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 4: Sean Payton stuff, it's I hope him well, I hope

1614
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 4: that they do do okay, But for him personally, he

1615
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 4: just needs to calm it down a little bit.

1616
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: Well, It's it's tough because I like guys and girls

1617
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 2: that are like one hundred percent themselves and one hundred

1618
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: percent honest. Sure, and so like when he comes out

1619
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,919
Speaker 2: and publicly is like, hey, Russell Wilson, stop kissing babies

1620
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: and doing whatever.

1621
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then what did he say?

1622
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: He was like, we were the worst coach team I've

1623
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: ever seen last year. I sort of like it, but

1624
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: I do think there's some stuff that you should keep

1625
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: under the hat. And I'll say this about Sean Payton

1626
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: is I think there's probably a little bit of arrogance

1627
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: just in taking this job to begin with, where you

1628
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: won a super Bowl with the Saints. You know, you

1629
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 2: had a couple of nice playoff runs after the super

1630
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 2: Bowl run, but you take a year off and like,

1631
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: I get all these guys want to get back into coaching,

1632
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 2: but it's like, dude, you're working at Fox a couple

1633
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: of days a week. Probably got a nice little condo

1634
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 2: in Manhattan Beach. You know, it's like, and I get

1635
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 2: you want to work again, But we knew that the

1636
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: Chargers job was probably gonna open this year, and we

1637
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: just knew there were gonna be better situations than Denver.

1638
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 2: I understand, you know whatever, twenty million, twenty five million,

1639
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: whatever the Waltons are paying them, but that just felt

1640
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: like just taking that job in and of itself, it

1641
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: was kind of arrogant in its own right, you know

1642
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: what I mean. It'd be like if urban Meyer was

1643
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 2: retired and he wanted to get back into coaching and

1644
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: he took like the you know, the Texas Tech job

1645
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 2: or something, he'd be like, dude, Texas Tech.

1646
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: Like well, you know what I mean. And it's like,

1647
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: that's kind of like what Sean Payton did you know?

1648
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's you're right, you think about urban

1649
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: Meyer Texas Tech.

1650
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 4: I was just about to say, oh my god when

1651
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 4: you said when you said urban Meyer, I was like, ooh,

1652
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 4: it's crazy, just the negative connotation that goes around with

1653
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 4: him now. And you know, before trying to make that

1654
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 4: leap to the NFL, we thought he was the best

1655
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 4: coach ever.

1656
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 3: Right, So it's just how the Mighty have fallen. They

1657
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: fall really well, really quick.

1658
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 2: Speaking of falling quick, so the New Orleans Pelicans are

1659
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: down three to zero in their series against the against

1660
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder. Did you see what Charles Barkley

1661
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: said after the game last night? Okay, So for people

1662
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: who did it, it is a pretty common refrain. By

1663
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: the way, we do have one NBA going game going

1664
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: on right now, Philly up twenty nine to twenty one

1665
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,799
Speaker 2: early in the second quarter. But as anybody who's watched

1666
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: inside the NBA knows, very common refrain when a team loses,

1667
01:15:58,920 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: they say, what are you doing?

1668
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 3: One? Two, three? Can coo? Here you go?

1669
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: In other words, season's over. Hit the beach, the season's

1670
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 2: done well. The inside the NBA crew asked Charles Barkley

1671
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: what is next for the New Orleans Pelicans after they

1672
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: fell down three.

1673
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 3: Here's what Charles Barkley had to say, disappointed Orleans.

1674
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 8: Where they're going chuck Galveston, dirty ass water. They not

1675
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 8: even gonna We're not even gonna sitting there. The cant coo,

1676
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 8: We're gonna sit there. The Gaveston with that dirty ass

1677
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 8: water be washed up on the shore. And people think

1678
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 8: they're in the beach.

1679
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all, we all go sit y'all a cant cool, y'all.

1680
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 8: Drive y'all, y'all quit drive down to Galveston.

1681
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 3: Come on, man, a little come on.

1682
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 8: But they didn't try. Man, we're not getting.

1683
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 3: A no plane ticket to the beach.

1684
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 8: We sit there as to Galveston, Texas right with that

1685
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 8: dirty water wash up on the beach. They can't even

1686
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 8: get in the water.

1687
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 3: Man, come on, man, dude, that is so good.

1688
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: And uh, first of all, I said this last night

1689
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 2: is like when you get the full, like full chested

1690
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,440
Speaker 2: laugh from Ernie Johnson, because Ernie Johnson is the professional

1691
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 2: and he'll chuckle.

1692
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 3: But I was dying when I heard it, old school Barkley.

1693
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 3: I loved everything about it.

1694
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 4: Man, that show when it's when it's really gone, it's

1695
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 4: just the best show.

1696
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is.

1697
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 4: I mean, it's allowing these these big personalities to just

1698
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 4: be themselves and it's it's great TV.

1699
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 3: Man. And and Ernie is the best. Ernie's the best.

1700
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: Chuck is the best going to Galveston, not Senator A

1701
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: can't coo. They don't deserve a ticket because they stink

1702
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 2: and they quit we're sending them to Galveston four games today,

1703
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: as we said, Philly and the Nixes in the second quarter. Uh,

1704
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 2: you got any bold predictions on Dallas Clippers later today?

1705
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 3: Manzi? If you have time to turn on your mic,

1706
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,879
Speaker 3: you can hop in on this one, Manzi. Ear muffs,

1707
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 3: ear muffs? Yeah this this what you say?

1708
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm said it before. I mean this series,

1709
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 4: this series was a Dallas series and I picked six.

1710
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 4: But now I think it's over in five.

1711
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 3: I do so. I think here's the big question.

1712
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 2: Do the clip Do the Clippers deserve a trip to

1713
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 2: Cancun or Galveston after after this?

1714
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 4: Well, they're they're on the West coast, so we can

1715
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 4: we can send them to nobody going to the hospital

1716
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 4: there you go, all right, club bed one of those things? Yeah,

1717
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 4: but no, they're It sucks though. I mean those it's

1718
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Speaker 4: four Hall of Fame players that I really, I really enjoyed,

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Speaker 4: have enjoyed watching.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's over for them. It's not playing traffic.

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01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 3: You just say you've enjoyed watching them.

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01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 4: I've enjoyed watching them this series because it's it's advantageous.

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01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 3: For how often do you ever get to watch them.

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 3: How often do you ever get to watch them and

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01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 3: never on the floor together this series? Well, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: that's been one game terrible and I know, but it's

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Speaker 3: good for me. Do you understand that the logic get it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I understand that like one month stretch where

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01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 2: they were awesome with James and everything, like.

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Speaker 3: The James Harden experience. Wow, it's working. It's like, just

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Speaker 3: give it a little sorry, mony like just as well

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01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 3: as the twenty twenty four Lakers have so good news

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Speaker 3: as we'll see Kawi in the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's another thing. En beat Kawhi Anthony Davis. It's like, dude,

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Speaker 2: if you can't play like four straight regular season games,

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Speaker 2: ad played a lot this year play, Yes he did,

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01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 2: but you can't be playing an the limbs anyway.

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Speaker 3: Carry Man awesome again. Appreciate it.

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01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 2: Appreciate Monsie and Isaac. Appreciate Producer Bo. Appreciate Chris coming

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Speaker 2: up next, Rich Orenberger, Steve Hartman. Steve Hartman's like a

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Speaker 2: horse in the racetrack, ready to go.

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Speaker 3: He's coming in next. Fox Sports Radio