WEBVTT - Hangin' with the 'Boys: Walking on Eggshells 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:04.560 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:06.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:17.560 Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.880 He is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wingstuff where 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:24.560 Flavor gets its wings. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:26.520 Now your hosts. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:32.320 Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:43.440 Thursday, You're looking alive at a frigid, cold crisp Tostitos 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.440 Championship plaza outside Fort Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas, 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:51.080 where it is a balmy twenty eight degrees the highest 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:51.639 thirty two. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:59.520 Listen to this, folks in Frisco, Texas. Eleven degrees got 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.160 down a four team last night. That's we're not built 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.080 for this anyway. Welcome to the show. Welcome back Chris. 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.760 By the way, he is Shnnon, That is Nate, This 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.520 is Kurt. In the back is Chris Bean. Welcome back Chris. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.960 I am Salt and Pepper Poppy. Together we make hang 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.679 it with the boys, the sports talk equivalent brow people. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.679 We got defensive line and they will when we speak. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.520 Brought to each it every day by Wing Stop Port, 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:26.280 Flavor gets its We. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.480 We can fly like and you can get some of 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.080 them defensive line where we showed them. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.160 That gonna be the motto. We're gonna have to hear this. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:38.160 They're pretty good. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:45.240 God, yes man, when you HEARDing baby, talk to me 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:46.760 defense You. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:48.960 Got the well coaches. They talked to the coach the 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.120 other day. They said, got explosive one right here in 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.600 the house. Who is that, Maazi? They said explosive? They said, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:57.560 it gets off the ball. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.600 This is a question for you. We had a chance, 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:04.840 that's what they said. We've had a chance. 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:05.160 Right. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.160 Is this the perfect opportunity to change the. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.880 Narrative about whatever you want to change the narrative about 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:16.360 and speak truth in this building like you you've got? 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:17.600 You got what truth? Though? 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.480 That's what I'm asking there. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.799 There are multiple levels of truth, That's what I'm asking right, 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:28.160 it's our truth, fast in the truth. But I do 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:36.720 believe in the truth because truth, it's your truth, it's 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.000 my truth, is their truth? 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.200 I agree? But is there some truth to that? Since 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.839 this is the second. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.120 Okay, you got the truth? The truth had there? You 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.560 go there, you go re searching for the truth. 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.000 They just pulled a beads got truth right red across 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:57.960 his forehead, So. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.120 Are we starting off? 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.280 I've heard a lot about everybody likes this coaching staff. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:09.880 Whoever's truth? You want to listen to. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:14.160 Everybody likes who Schottenheimer's bringing in some good quality hires. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.440 You know, the players seem to like the guys they're 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.200 bringing in, bringing a lot of guys from college. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.160 Are we are. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:26.200 We starting to already have some of the same narratives 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:31.239 that were rammed down our throat with the old administration. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:33.840 You've got a chance to break. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.000 Do your own thing right, do your own thing, create 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.400 your own narratives. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.000 Take a wait and see the approach. Less guys are. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.720 Gonna earn their job. We're gonna we're gonna reevaluate. But 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.720 we're starting off. To me, we're kind of starting off with, yeah, 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.440 we got we we got the guys, do we We've 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:54.080 heard that. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:56.280 Fifteen years. 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.320 We've heard we got the guys, and then we get 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.280 the guys, and then do we really have the guys? So, like, 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.320 how do y'all feel about the way all this is 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.440 because a lot has happened over the last week, week 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:06.920 and a half. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.440 How do y'all feel about how it's I. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.560 Think a lot of that is just coach speak. I mean, 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.560 they can't come out and say, man, our guy suck. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.840 Why can't you because they've got to be they've got 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.480 to want. They need these guys to do. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.080 They didn't get their jobs that way. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.280 That's what I'm saying, the job that way in being 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.800 honest and being seeing what they see on film. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.200 Then if they hired them, then they could say that. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:30.440 But they didn't hire them. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.400 Right, So were we worried that we're starting off being 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.000 a mouthpiece for the organization already and the players are 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.200 starting to get comfortable before we've even stepped on the 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.360 field because we got we got some good players, we 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.640 got some guys. Why not just come in and go, look, 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.799 this is the way this is. We're gonna look at everybody. 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.920 This is competition. Best man up like we we're gonna 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:50.920 reevaluate and trend. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.880 Don't let anybody get comfortable. We've been comfortable for twenty 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.479 nine years around here. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.320 Yeah, let's why not come in and you know what 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.200 I get it, he's a he's a player's coach. Like 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.520 he doesn't he's probably not gonna want to rock the boat. 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.640 And that's that's I think that's a If that's his way, 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.920 that's his way, But why not come in and just 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.120 put everybody on notice and be like, hold up. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.480 Hopefully they are maybe behind the scenes publicly, I don't think, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:14.760 you know. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:15.520 Do it publicly. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.760 Two thirds of those guys, they're gonna have to follow them. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:19.360 You have to follow them, they have to coach. So 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:20.440 I don't think they're gonna come in. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:21.560 I don't know. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.599 I just you know, I just don't want. I just 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.640 don't I guess I'm tired of being comfortable. I'm tired 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.240 of everything's gonna be okay, We're good, We're good. I 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.360 just want somebody to be like, hey, we'll see I 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:33.200 don't know if we're good or not. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:34.960 We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out who wants 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:36.280 to be here, who doesn't want to be here, and 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.559 go through it. That's just me. How do you guys feel? 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:46.720 I think, to Kurt's point, we're seeing from from Schottenheimer 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:51.159 and from his coaching staff a lot of what the 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.520 Jones is. Mister Jones and Stephen Jones sold us on 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.039 in the press conference. They talked about Brian Schottenheimer being 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:02.440 someone when it came to words, to saying words, to 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:07.080 being able to galvanize a room with his words. That's 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.640 what they sold us on. You see that the way 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:13.080 the coaches are speaking, they're trying to have this positive 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:17.560 influence for all the guys you know in this locker room. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.960 To your point, I agree with you. I think that 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.960 there needs to be a level of uncomfortability. There shouldn't 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:32.800 be many guys on this roster that should feel comfortable 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:38.320 with their job security. There should be guys on this 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.960 roster who come in here and have to know that 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.840 a fight will have to be put up for your 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.760 playing time. That you shouldn't be able to just waltz 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:57.520 in here and be high on the hog because your 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:02.360 coaches are just speaking that way. This little drought, this 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.440 thirty year drought, this sevententeen that what it was last year. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.559 The boat needs to be rocked. There needs to be 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:15.640 there needs to be a shift. There needs to be that. Unfortunately, 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:21.320 when you start talking about the type of people who 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:27.280 can do that, one are those who have the skins 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.440 on the wall on the NFL's level. Because all of 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.440 these guys are really coming in here and you hear 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.600 the college guys, a lot of college guys coming here, 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.559 and the words that I'm hearing a lot is hey 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.080 they develop, Hey they develop. These guys are they can develop, 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.520 But they're not coming in here with the big skins 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:53.240 on the wall as an NFL success story. So they're 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.400 looking at guys in the locker room with not much 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.280 NFL success trying to tell those other guys in the 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.520 NFL locker who don't have much success. And now we 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.440 both can't be looking at each other what not much 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.360 success in the league that we're both trying to dominate it. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.520 So I do agree that we're hearing a lot of 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.320 coach speak. I do agree that there needs to be 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.000 a shift in the way that we approach this thing. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:23.240 There needs to be a more strict, more fine line 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:28.000 more I don't want to say walking on eggshells, but 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.880 when I called Date a couple of months ago and 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.720 I asked him about Jimmy Johnson and how did that 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.880 feel when Jimmy Johnson became the head coach of his 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.240 football team, it needs to be a level of that. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.880 It needs to be a level of healthy fear. There 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.560 needs to be a level of healthy fear that at 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:50.400 any moment, my job can be gone because these guys 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.440 didn't draft me, these guys didn't sign me. These guys 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:58.520 weren't or you know, were or or or don't have 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.400 any ties to me. There needs to be that level 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.240 of healthy fear, and I think you can get that 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:10.280 through public, Through the public, through the public language that 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.200 you speak in the media. You can make people feel 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.080 a healthy fear, and that I think is what may 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.520 be necessary. The country club life is going to get 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.600 you seven to ten again, gonna get you nine to eight. 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.200 It's gonna get you, you know, eight and nine, the 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:32.240 country club lifestyle, the you know kumba y'all, and everyone's 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.119 you know this is this isn't an equal opportunity employer. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.679 That's not what football is. Everywhere every Jimmy said it 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.880 a long time ago. Everybody gets treated fair, but everybody 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.200 going to get treated the same, and there needs to 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:48.079 be that level of here's how we're moving forward. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.440 This kind of he drops, you know, he said, obviously, 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.880 the better players you have, the better they are, better 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.600 you are or and this is a player's game, so 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.040 the talent does matter. So he I felt like he 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.920 dropped a couple of hymns that maybe they don't have 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.160 who they want. But again, I don't think any of 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.320 these guys are gonna come out and say, you know, 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:08.599 and I don't know what ad Jimmy do. Did he 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.880 talk publicly or you come in the first meeting say 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.600 everybody's better be on their toes. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:18.400 No, it was a way different era of we coach 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.240 can coach have to be firm and who he is. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.000 That's why you heard me say early when we first 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.880 talked started talking about coach Schattenheimer is. 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:29.400 I hear what you're saying. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.840 But when somebody get out of line or things don't 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.199 go right, let's see what you do. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:35.520 Let's see how you respond. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.080 Do we have to well, we're gonna keep it in 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.800 house and nothing ever get done or this guy has already, 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.920 this has already been taken care of and you can 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.040 visibly see it. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.800 So I just I just want to see what they're 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:49.120 gonna do. 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.079 I'm talking to a lot of people, like Jesse, having 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.480 all of you guys, all of us talking to a 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:59.080 lot of people, and and I can't say I know 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:03.120 this for sure. So now everybody's waiting to see mode. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:09.559 You want eggshells, you want hey, you gotta be more political, 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.440 you know, and just in the middle. And so I'm nowhere, bro, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.440 I'm just like, what is going to happen? 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.680 I should say that. I don't necessarily think that I'm 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.440 with you. I would like to see some I don't 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:22.800 think they're going to say that publicly. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.520 No, no, no, they're not. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:30.839 The thing is, it's been a long time since we 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.960 us talking heads have been in a position where we 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:40.480 just can't throw any daggers. I mean what, we haven't 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.200 even say what's a good record because we don't know 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.520 what the players are. You've got twenty six free agents, 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.920 so we can't say, well, hey, if they go seven wins, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:50.959 we can't even. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.880 Move forward because we don't know what to move forward with. What. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.480 You know, they just a bunch of They just like us, 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.720 be honest with you. They just a bunch of guys 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:00.199 right now. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:02.200 I don't know them. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.520 Jesse probably got a better end road than all of us, 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:06.400 you know, I don't know. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:06.920 And I don't. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:07.760 I don't. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.360 I don't want them to public shame anybody or anything 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:10.640 like that. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.319 I just public shaming works. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.640 You want that, I know you do public works. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.600 I just mean that public flogging can get you. I 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:19.280 just want to. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.680 I just want them to say, you know, we don't 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.040 know what we have, you know, we we know what's 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.520 in the past, but we're moving forward and we're going 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.240 to evaluate everybody at like, you know, like a new player, 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:31.800 and the best guys are gonna be on the field 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.559 because I don't think around here that's always been and 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.120 maybe it won't. Maybe it can't be that way around here, 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.320 the way this thing structured. Maybe you you can't put 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:41.359 your best guys. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.520 On the field for you know, off the field reasons. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:50.560 I don't want people to get misconstrued. What when you 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.040 hear because we we we throw this term around a 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:58.000 lot and you hear, you know, a player's coach, right, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.120 We we throw that term around loosely. Yes, and and 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:05.760 a lot of time I think you we we misinterpret 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:10.720 what a true players coach is. And it's not. It's 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:16.240 not a coach who is looking to it's not a 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.240 coach that's looking to buddy buddy with the players. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:18.920 He's not soft. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.800 It's not it's not that, it's not it's not a 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.280 guy that's looking to be like friendly. It's not a 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.840 guy who's looking to have these you know. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.120 Go to duke basketball games with your go to. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:36.360 Do exactly to go to do basketball games like like 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.720 that's not that's that. That's not the thing. Yeah, that's 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.760 that's not that. That's and by the way, that didn't 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.000 go over well in the locker room. Just want to 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.840 let people know that that wasn't well received by the 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.920 others in the locker room, and that's something like that happened. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:55.520 But a player's coach is a guy that players in 0:13:55.559 --> 0:14:03.520 the locker room highly respect. That they highly respect, that 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:13.600 they police themselves because there is that healthy boundary layden 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:19.840 fear of that coach. But I know if I need 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:25.640 something that he will be a person that stands alongside 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.640 of me in it. But he's also a person who 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:33.080 is not going to take andy bull and will have 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.920 you wearing three shoes, two on your feet and one 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:42.720 of your because that's how he's gonna get down. And 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.000 and that that there's a there's a there's a very 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.320 very because when you hear player coaches and you know 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.080 and I people saying, oh, wait, way was a players call? Wait? 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.720 People abuse that no matter how you address it, how 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:59.760 you dress it up. The softer kinder meeker want to 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.400 build friendships and all that kind of stuff. Type coach 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:08.520 players men abuse it. They abuse the women in that way. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.520 If you have. If you have a woman who is 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.880 meek and let you get away with anything and don't 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.600 put boundaries on things. You're just it's in our nature. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.760 It's in our nature. We'll just keep doing it. If 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.000 you let me do this and you say nothing about it, 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.880 keep doing it over and over and over and over again. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:31.760 So when you hear players coach like the the the 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.600 notion that that is something that will get the guys 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:37.800 to know they abuse. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:43.920 A perfect example, Kareem Hunt, running back of Kansas City 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.200 several years ago, was on the up. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.400 He lied to Coach Reed. Coach Reed cut him on 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:50.480 the spot. 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.560 Several years later, Coach Reed codes back and get this guy. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.480 And you ought to just hear the gushing admiration this 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.440 kid had. I'm saying that that that's a players coach, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.200 because when Jimmy come to you and say, hey, man, 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.600 tell me what happened. We on your side. Please tell 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.880 me what happened. And if you lie to him, you 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.320 were gone. 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.040 On which you yest. That's good stuff. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:16.800 Would you say Jimmy was a players coach? 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.840 Yes, sir, you can't get a man hated him to death, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:25.080 love him to death. He let me tell you about 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:29.480 great people, great players, great coaches. They are very, very selfish. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.520 But one thing they do have is they know they 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.880 it takes others to get them to where they want. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.240 To go, and that's greatness. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:43.720 Why would Tom Brady call Belichick? They didn't have a 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.200 nice ending, but why would he call him just to 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.000 fill him out, just to see what was going? 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:56.080 Why? Evidently was something there players. That's good stuff. Boy, 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:57.240 that's some good stuff though. 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:57.440 Man. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:59.960 All right, let's take our first break when we come back. 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.680 A lot of talk about the salary cap the last 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:03.320 few days. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:04.720 I gotta leave. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.280 We'll save that for the end. 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Fill up 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.560 with Jesse Holly at Pump eight and get game day 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:13.639 ready even though it's the off season. Stay game day ready, 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.320 all right, good stuff that first segment about the coaching staff. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:22.000 We'll save the salary cap fantasy football talk for later 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:26.800 so they can just glide on out of uh, glide 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:32.080 on out of here, your guy Dez. Jesse had some 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.439 comments to say on social media the last week, and 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:39.440 this is something that you alluded to probably before last 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:40.480 season even started. 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:41.639 Des agrees with you. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:45.360 He thinks the Cowboys are rebuilding and he says it sucks. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.879 So how do we feel about, you know, the moves 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:52.000 they made last year. 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.840 It's gonna be very interesting. I think we'll know here. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.200 What a couple couple of weeks, two weeks, three weeks. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.800 When free agency saw March twelfth, and you see like 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:05.919 one of the Jerry Jones family going their spring break vacation, 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:13.960 family vacation. It's March tenth, so right, and they're gonna 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.400 they have their annual. They have their annual. Why would 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.560 you kill the segment they have their annual? 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:20.520 Would you just get us all to be real quiet. 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.520 What would you just kill? Don't they have their annual 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:24.520 their annuals. 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.959 I don't get in their personal business, Jesse. I just 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:29.920 you know when I see it on social media, public. 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.159 Social media will know about it. I don't know. I 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:34.480 don't have access to their calendar. 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:39.360 Just crushed, sick icht, I want to get on the yacht. 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.440 What do you think their intentions will be in free agency? 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.200 Do you think they're clearing out roster space and this 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:51.359 is like a two year plan to get money and 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.439 then go hard at it after this year, or do 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.480 you think they're going to because you said earlier, was 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.360 it twenty six free agents? 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.720 Someone some worm shape of fashion. 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.280 And it looks like you're already not gonna be able 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:06.440 to keep osa right. 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:07.840 I don't know. 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.479 They're gonna just getting more and more expensive the day. 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.760 As the days go along, you're getting more and more. 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.199 I'm so glad they get more expensive. 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:22.080 Players must all good players must just love being free 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:24.720 agents here because you get the brand behind you, you 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:29.200 get TV time, and you know they're gonna they're gonna 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:32.680 wait till the end of your contract to do anything 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.600 with it, so you're gonna get maximum dollars out of 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.040 it whether you stay here or go somewhere. It must 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.720 just be like novel, let it ride. I hope I 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:43.240 don't get hurt, just get to the end of the same. 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.320 But what do you guys think as far as free agency? 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:49.760 Do you do you look for a massive, just brand 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.000 new looking roster or do you think they'll you know, 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.120 they talk about keeping their own right. Do you think 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.800 they'll be aggressive and try to keep the guys here 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:58.439 or do you think they're gonna clean out money and 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:03.040 try to start somewhat as Dad says, rebuild and start for. 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:04.919 It because you've already kind of did it last year, right, 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.440 you let us some big contracts go. What do you 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:08.440 think is gonna happen this year? 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:14.000 My personal opinion, and it ties back into the type 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:18.880 of coaches that they have brought on. They brought in 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.280 all of these coaches, and again we keep hearing the 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:26.840 same thing, develop, develop, develop, Develop. The difference between the 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.399 NFL and NCAA is you have time, You got guys, 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.960 have red shirt years. You got guys who are there 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.400 doing winter workouts, spring ball. They never leave, They never leave, 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.400 right like, you always have access to these guys to develop. 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.440 It's not like when you guys know it's busy here. 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:51.359 One day that season ends, ghost Town. You don't see it. 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:53.080 You know, next time you might see it. Joke, it 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.160 gonna be on social media. He gonna be two shades 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.760 in a way. And so the coaching staff and what 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:03.280 they're good at leads me to believe that they're going 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:11.360 back or staying with their mo draft develop, draft, develop, 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:16.480 and so in this process they're in that rebuilding stage 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:20.000 because when they when they had money, when the Dak 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.760 was on his rookie deal, they didn't spend money in 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.320 free agency. They have they have long been one of 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:31.160 the least spending teams and the numbers document that spending 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:36.359 in free agency. So unless the thirty years drought is 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.439 all of a sudden coming to an end, this is 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:40.600 a part of their rebuild. 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.080 Do they do it a good enough job at because 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:46.040 that's their that's what they do. They they draft, they develop, 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.240 and when the price gets to how they let. 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:50.680 Them go, they they don't. They don't keep gouy unless. 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.720 It's a superstar, a Dak or a Mic or you know, 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:57.359 a skilled, high high skill position player. Right, do you 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.560 think they do a good enough job? Obviously the results 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.680 aren't there. But from a player development standpoint, are they 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.040 doing a good enough job keeping that pipeline going to 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:12.320 where that's a good business model or should they develop 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.200 them and then when they get when the price gets 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.080 too high, should they be paying some of these guys 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:17.960 and not let them go. 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:19.800 To me. 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:25.399 It's it's you you will McLay and his drafting, his 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.680 scouts and is drafting they for the time that he's 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.480 been here, relatively speaking, they've been really good at it. 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:32.400 Right. 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:36.119 They they your favorite players that you enjoy watching and 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.360 have Buck jerseys and have posters on the walls and 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:44.760 come to see play every Sunday. Has grown. Yeah, it's 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:48.800 when you miss, and they've missed in the last two years, 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:52.240 which is set back the process because the process you 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.080 want to have is you want to be able to 0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:00.600 draft these guys, develop these guys, and now they be 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.359 so good that I don't the pieces that I bring 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:08.480 in don't have to be these great pieces, right, I 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.639 can go and get these smaller pieces to go with 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.840 the pieces that we've developed, homegrown, developed, and now we're 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.119 able to go out there and put twelve and five seasons, thirteen, 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:19.720 three seasons and fourteen whatever that number is. But when 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:25.520 you miss, especially in your first three rounds, it sets 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:31.679 you back significantly because those guys, first round guys, they 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.440 gotta have I media impact. If you're a first round guy, 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:37.439 you have to have a high percentage of being an 0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:41.480 immediate impact player. Second round guy, same thing, third round guy. 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:43.240 We're looking for you to look, we're looking for you 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.760 to be in the mix of this thing. Now. Anything 0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.800 that I get in the fourth, fifth, sixth round free agent, 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:55.760 excuse me, undrafted, are those are helping pieces if they hit, 0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:01.040 bonus if they don't hit. Not actually looking from the 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.480 hit right now, those are the developed guys that we're 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.399 looking at. But when we don't hit in the first 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:11.359 three rounds two years in a row, you set your 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.880 franchise back. Now because you're saying, we have so many 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.920 holes now coming into this year. Mazi didn't hit where 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:22.800 you have a hole at defensive line. For what it 0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:27.679 looks like today, Tyler Guiden didn't hit, you have another 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:33.760 hole in the offensive line, right your your maris little 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:37.760 foul was okay. Uh the marion he got, he got, 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:43.439 he got hurt. So created more holes. So Schoolmaker didn't hit, 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.240 Kneeland got hurt. Sam Williams a couple of years ago 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.919 got hurt. So now all the guys that you've needed 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:56.280 to be impact players for your draft development and then 0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.639 get the swallow pieces to come in haven't hit. So 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.240 that's at you so far back to now you have 0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:05.439 found yourself in a place three years later of we 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.360 got to reach. I have to get a guy that hits. 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.879 Now I have to now pay a cost to a 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.359 guy like Osa. And I said to some of my 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:18.640 other shows about a guy like Osa is. Osa's value 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.800 has become a product of the system. Oh say the 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.280 twenty million dollar play, y'all, Like, I'm not. I don't 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.240 want to Osa. I want you to get all the moneys. 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.840 You could possibly get all of it, all of it, 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:38.280 all of it. But Osa is not a He's not 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:42.120 he's not a ninety million dollar football player. But he'll 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:46.440 get that. He'll get that because of the way that 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.560 the Cowboys did their situation and not having guys hit. 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:54.240 If Bozzie hits, If Bozzie hits, Osa is a foegone conclusion. 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.440 If Mozzie who they thought Mozzie was supposed to be, 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.280 they say, oh, so we I got I got fifteen 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.160 million dollars for you. I got two years fifteen million. 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.800 Do I got twenty million dollars for you for three years, 0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.320 and now you become a piece of it. But because 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.840 Mazzi didn't hit, and it looked so bad, and the 0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:16.840 others around him didn't hit, and it looks so bad, 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:21.240 and he stood out. Now you look around and it's 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:23.800 not a big market. It's it's not a bunch of 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:28.360 free agent defensive interior defensive lineman right now. The value 0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.400 goes up supply and demand. 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.200 So it's a good business model as long as you 0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.400 don't have injuries and you don't miss, and you don't miss, 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:40.520 which which everybody misses and everybody, but when you missed. 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.200 Two years in the like right, listen, they drafted Tyron Smith, 0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:54.120 they drafted Zach Martin, they drafted Frederick's Zeke dak CD 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:58.400 CD Mikah, Like there were teams that they had that 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:02.560 was purely draft based players, Like the stars of the 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.760 team were god that were drafted and developed and they 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.320 hit over and over and over. You're like, you look up, 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.920 You're like, damn, it's a good football team. You look 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:16.520 at that. Twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen type teams. 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.560 Those teams were damn good teams. 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.640 Well they didn't. They didn't really miss a first rounder. 0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:27.560 They were hitting for till what last uh two years? 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.320 Yeah, talker Charlton, right. 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.040 It will never be. They never missed on offensive ever. 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.480 They were hitting. They were hitting, and when you hit 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.120 the way they were hitting, those gods will turn it 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:39.080 in the Pro bowlers. 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.800 So do you just nate if you're them and you're like, 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.640 we're really really good at this, we're not so great 0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.560 at drafting. In the first few rounds. You can't stop 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.080 those guys from Michigan. So let's don't ever take a 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.200 guy from Michigan. Let's just draft first round live. 0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:56.920 Lewis is a good Yuy, you still got to do 0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:57.560 your homework. 0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.880 I love George not in that mix. 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.400 I'm just I'm that guy, the best guy regardless of 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.280 you know, I don't want nothing to do with Michigan. 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.600 But if that guy is the man Mason Graham Michigan player, 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.480 we will well, he will be there if he gets 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.720 there at twelve, whoa, you know, so it might be 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:17.440 a gas mask situation. I even think still, I still 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.200 believe if he has a gas mask on he ain't 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:19.640 making it to. 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.720 Twelve, But would you, like, is that a valid question 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.959 if you're really that good at hitting on offensive lineman 0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.680 and trading back and knowing like I can do this 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:34.320 and you need like it's what is that not a 0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.840 bad business model? Like, hey, we know we're gonna nail this. 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.680 Or do you always still just say it's best player? 0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.280 I mean, everybody's gonna say best player. 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.239 You felt last year off it's you probably reached out 0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:44.760 for him. 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.040 Yeah, but you reached right the other ones you didn't 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.080 really reach for. Well, I guess. 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.760 I don't get you had about you had a battle 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.240 for uh for Zack Martin. You had a battle. Yeah, 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.760 boss was going with Johnny Manziel. Yeah, Boss was getting 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.760 Boss said give me Johnny Manzel. They said, whoa, whoa, whoa, 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:08.120 whoa whoa? Do you not hear Coach said about behind clothes. 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.080 Let's go get something a little bit more confident we 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.160 can we can rely on. And it worked out right 0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:17.760 because Zach Martin gave you, I mean ten nine ten years, 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:18.560 great years. 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:22.160 That pick was we we did mean tweets that year 0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:26.880 and that was probably the most real relatable tweet I'd 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.120 ever heard you know, we've got the guys to read 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.440 the players, I mean the players to read the tweets, 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.200 and it was I really liked the Zach Martin pick, 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.560 but it's like one of Xbox one for Christmas and 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:40.600 getting a pair of socks. 0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.360 I remember that. 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.880 Yeah, all right, let's take our last break. We will 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.760 talk about is the salary cap even real? 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Hanging with the Boys? 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.560 Welcome back to the final segment of Hanging with the Boys, 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.560 brought you each and every day by Jigsaw, the proud 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.440 dating partner of the Dallas Cowboy. 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:27.680 Yes, saw Baby, Jig, saw hight Nate. We met mentioned 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:32.440 salary cap and you almost today he is. We just 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.000 mentioned salary cap and you almost took the head bones off. 0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:35.399 And walked out. 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.719 Why why what do you have? Why are you so 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.000 angry at the salary cap? 0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:44.000 Because for the last seven eight years we've we've talked 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:50.960 about Sarah cap, Sarah cap, and it didn't benefit us. 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:55.360 And we had decent players and it didn't benefit us. Okay, 0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.359 now we spend to talk sary Cap, sary Cap and 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:02.400 the player and the players, we don't have the same 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.360 quality of players. 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.200 What good is it gonna do us? 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.080 Well, I mean when we when we had a chance 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.960 to get it, to get guys in free agency to 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.879 help us get over the top, mainly that Green Bay 0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.560 year when we flopped, we could have went out and 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:23.680 found us somebody defensively that could have could have brought 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:24.920 some pressure or something. 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.120 It's time they Yeah, you talked about draft developed earlier. 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.799 I mean it's time they need to. I mean, all 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.440 these teams are making runs. They've you know, free agents. 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:35.880 You know, maybe it's time to use some free. 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.720 Agency and people keep you know, you listen to folks 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.400 you know around here, the cap ologies not that people 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.160 over there in mister Jones office from about our media 0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.520 can just tell you this, this, this, this this, and 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:51.120 feed D fans all of this, this, this, this, this this, well, 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.480 just four or five years ago, three four years ago 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.640 to Rams, they said the RAMS is gonna be in 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.440 cap Hill. But the SCD to me, that was in 0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.160 the second round, the second round of the playoffs. It 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.120 was in the second round of the playoffs. He's how 0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.719 many Eagles was goin to fall off because they had 0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:06.600 what it was gonna be in Caphill. They won the 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:08.280 Super Bowl in cap Hill. 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.919 I can't get that. I can't buy it. Not I'm 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:14.239 a fan. 0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:17.040 I buy season tickets, so I can't buy it. I'm 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.720 buying season tickets. I want to know getting cap hell 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:20.840 so my wife. 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.200 Can be happy. 0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.800 Sounded like a woman, right, get it? Make me? 0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:27.439 Yeah? 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.880 So there, So there, there's gonna be a bump in 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.719 the salary cap somewhere between what is it, kurt two 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.319 hundred and seventy seven to two hundred and eighty one 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:36.600 million somewhere in there. 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:38.760 In two hundred and fifty five passed. 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.719 It's about a twenty something million dollar bump. 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.560 Which it goes up what every year, every couple of years, 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:44.840 every year the TV money. 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:46.080 Last year it went up. 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:48.120 Yeah, this is a bigger bump than ever. 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.600 Than it normally is. So somewhere around like fifty six million. 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.120 Over the last two years, the salary cap has raised 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.520 two years fifty six million. 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.920 So is it a real Is it a real number? 0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.279 Because like Nate said, you keep hearing their in cap hell. 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.440 But they everybody keeps finding creative ways to push the 0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:07.400 money back, and you just keep pushing it, pushing it. 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:10.040 We talked about that on the last show. And as 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.000 the pie grows, the salaries grow, so it eats up 0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.280 the extra money because they can spend more on guys, 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.960 and then then it brings the market up. So you're 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.720 really just chasing. It's like inflation, right, You're just it's. 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.799 The credit card. Yeah, it's the credit card. 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:25.319 You make more money, but the eggs cost more. 0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.040 But right, you know, and then it just you know, 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.040 you're not really there's really no extra money there. 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:39.960 But the the ingenious way or the the way that 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:43.080 people are trying to look like the Philadelphia is the 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:47.760 best example right now. It's the best example. The first 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.480 thing the Cowboys when you're talking about salary cap money 0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:52.640 is you got to stop doing what you're doing now, 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.120 meaning you let Osa get to the end of his deal. 0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.560 Let everybody get to the end of their deal. Right Osa, 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:02.920 two years ago, if this was a player that you 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:06.480 looked at, it said Osi a Diggiezua, I like you, 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.400 I won't you No, I like you Geld It. 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.759 Got even for half half right. 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.480 But what you've done now is I created the market. 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:22.600 I now have control over this player at a reasonable 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:28.919 price that I can push further along if I like to, right, 0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:31.640 And now I can go and use that other money 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.680 to bring in other players. But you let these guys 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.840 get to the end of their deal and like Osa 0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.359 for example, who this isn't I don't like when I 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:41.799 say it. I don't want to come up like I'm 0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.920 sounding like I'm shading Osa. But you let them get 0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.000 to an end of the deal and have a good year. 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.720 And now you're facing the market now when you didn't 0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.360 have to face the market two years ago. If this 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.400 was the guy that you were going to bring and 0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.920 anticipation that the market is the salary cat will go 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.239 up after about it. Last year he thought it was 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:06.200 going to go up ten million. It went up sixteen 0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:12.279 million or whatever it is. So it's football is not dying, fellas. 0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.320 This is not a dying sport. This is not basketball, 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.160 This ain't baseball, this ain't hockey. This is the most 0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:23.680 profitable sport in all of sports. It keeps growing. The 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:28.480 TV deals, the marketing deals, it just keeps rising. It 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.080 is the It is when you go. When you look 0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:35.440 at the TV ratings and now football is everywhere. You 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.360 got a hard time finding football. It's it's on nineteen networks. 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.680 It's on nineteen networks. You gotta have twenty seven thousand 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:47.960 streaming services to see football. Last year, football was played 0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:53.120 on every single day except Tuesday. Coming soon, it was 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.120 played on every single day of the week except Tuesday 0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:57.560 or Wednesday, one of the two. But it was played 0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.680 on every single day. They got it on Amazon, they 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:02.799 got an own Prime, they got an own Hulu, they 0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:06.239 got it on YouTube. That is everywhere. The numbers ain't 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:09.280 going down. When you're going, you back and you watch 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:13.000 how football is being watched. They did the top one 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:19.800 hundred viewing things on TV ninety seven of them was football. 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:24.800 Ninety seven of them were football. The top three were football, 0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.759 top ten were football. I think it was like the 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:32.880 Grammys and something else. Of the top one hundred viewed 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:39.320 things on foot on TV ninety seven or football games. 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.840 The money will be there. They have to be willing 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.560 to buck what they are comfortable doing. 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:50.279 This is. 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.480 This is at times why people ask for a new 0:41:54.560 --> 0:42:01.000 GM because when you don't, you ever have the seat 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.840 being hot. Jerry's I don't care what people say. I 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.640 don't care what people say. That seat ain't never hot. 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.719 I don't give a damn what people say. I don't 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:13.759 care what the fans see. They't hot. The only the 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:17.400 only person that he's fighting against with that seat is 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:18.960 Hiven father time. That's it. 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:19.799 That set. 0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.160 It ain't hot. So I don't have to move in 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.920 such a way. You move, you move in these certain ways, 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.480 you get super duper creative, You get super duper innovative 0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:34.440 and and and sometimes desperate warriors when you get in 0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.160 the hot seat, when you're when your back's against the wall, 0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.279 when you have to perform because you know that your 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:44.840 job may be up if you don't. Why do I? 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:46.720 Why do I have to change my ways? 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:48.239 Who? 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:51.440 As the young people say, who checking me? Boo? Who 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:56.360 checking me? Nobody's checking me? And when we start talking 0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:00.640 about you're starting to see now teams starting to sell 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.880 portions of their of their franchise to get some liquid 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:08.880 cash to make these particular moves, because they're saying, if 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.400 we pay, if we pay the bill up front, we 0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.160 get the product. We'll make the money on the back 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:19.560 end in merchandise and ticket sales and parking and all 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:23.480 that kind of stuff. The problem is Jerry's saying, I 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:27.440 already won. I already win that already what you're trying 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.879 to do, I'm already want. I'm already the best selling 0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.719 in merchandise. I'm already the best selling in concessions. Set 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.560 out the Legends concessions. I'm already the best in attendance 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.200 every single year. I have one hundred thousand seeds on 0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.239 My parking is probably the best because I have one 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:45.760 of the biggest stadiums Watch Change, So that's the money's 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.640 there to do these things. It's there. You have to 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.560 be willing and wanting to do it to be competitive. 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:57.359 Nate, would you franchise anybody on this year? 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.560 No, sir, No, nobody's good enough. 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:01.840 Just had a good stat that he told us in 0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:06.280 the break eight eight players last year were franchise league wide. 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.319 Is there anybody you guys franchise here? 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.920 Yeah, not not worth paying that price. 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:18.040 No top five money, All right, Kurt? Anything else you 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:19.200 want to hear before we get out of here? 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.440 Yeah, I guess the old Brian really apology thought our 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:23.600 first segment was horrible? 0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:31.080 Brian? Yeah, who is Brian? Exactly? What talk about called 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:35.640 me as we love your brother. 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.520 I guess we talked to thanks for watching too much. 0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:42.200 We got your See what happens when we finally talked football. 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:44.640 No one wants to hear no one wants to hear 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:45.840 us talking about football. 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.960 I'm reading the book. I'm reading the new book. I 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.040 said to my Yeah, I'm reading. I'm reading books twenty 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.000 twenty five. Okay, what you're reading? The first book I'm 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:56.360 reading it's called Four Agreements. Okay, and so that's my 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.960 first book of twenty twenty about the four agreements. It's 0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:03.520 it's it's reprogram in your mind and freeing yourself up 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:05.760 of the old agreements that you've made in your life 0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:10.200 with these four new agreements. Uh, that you would and uh. 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:15.120 The four agreements are one is being being peccable with 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:19.480 your word. The second agreement is I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.759 rest this up. But the second agreement is, shoot, I 0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.520 just was reading sapter you last night. Uh, never take 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:32.279 anything personally. The third agreement is what's the third agreement, Jess? 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.160 I don't know. The fourth agreement, UH will be I 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.680 haven't gotten that chapter yet, but that one's going to be. 0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:43.040 Uh, just do your best forget the third one. 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.279 Our words are impeccable, though, and we don't. We don't. 0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:48.600 We don't take it personally. See, it's not a it's 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.480 not what you're saying about us. It's not about us. 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.120 It's about you, and we don't take it personally at 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.880 all at all. We want you to continue to be 0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.520 who you are and whatever you believe, and you trust 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.520 in you that's what you believe, and we'll do what 0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.360 we do. But we thank you for listening. 0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:08.040 I think he just felt like we coaches wouldn't dog 0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:09.040 their players publicly. 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.919 I say, otherwise, I didn't say dog that that miss 0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:14.360 dog is. 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:16.799 I don't. 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:20.080 I don't even thank you. My whole thing was, don't 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.560 talk about specific players. Just say hey, we're going to 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:26.000 evaluate every position. I feel like that's that's not. 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.920 I haven't heard this before. He says that Jimmy said 0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.279 that to cut you because you're overweight, but then he 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.239 gave you a chance and you proved him wrong. 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:41.600 No, it was, uh no, it didn't totally come like that. No, no, 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:46.160 because everybody wanted Jimmy to cut me. Jimmy said, we don't. 0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.880 We're not looking at the same film. Basically, you tell them. 0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.280 You know you're not. We're not looking at the same film. 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:56.319 Oh yeah. Four agreements, be impeccable with your word. The 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.120 second agreement, don't take anything personally. We don't take anything 0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:03.319 personally here. The third agreement is don't make assumptions. Don't 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.080 make assumption in. The fourth agreement is always do your 0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:05.680 best at least. 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:07.640 I'm on the third one. I'm not making an assumption 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:09.800 or this coach you staff for players. 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:13.400 I'm reading a new book to what Oscar the Grouch 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.160 South of every every night. 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:21.360 That's I'm reading a new book too. What it's called Backpack. 0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:25.640 I'm getting better, Nate better, getting better? 0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:35.800 What Chris Chris Chris, he's been out of town for 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:36.239 a week. 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:38.879 Yes, we haven't played together in probably two or three 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:40.240 weeks month. 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:46.920 I think you know who loves our show, My homegirl, Shelby. 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.640 I call the shows. Shelby loves our show. She thinks 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:50.640 our show is hilarious. 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:51.240 Thanks Shelby. 0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.239 She never listens to our so she never listens to 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.960 our show live. She waits till the next day that 0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.680 she goes to the gym. So our show air today, 0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:00.520 She's gonna watch it tomorrow morning. When she goes to 0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:02.440 the Jets. She's working out, and she's like, people think 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.279 I'm crazy because the way I'd be dying. Laugh and 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.239 watch her hang with the boys at six am in 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.759 the morning on the treadmill. Keep it, keep it real, 0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:09.400 miss Shelby. 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:11.319 We'll have to go back to non football talk for 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:12.360 Shelby next week. 0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:13.799 Since we're she loves it all. 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.759 She loves it all, so good stuff. I talk to 0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:19.040 Combine and what Jesse's scores were. 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.000 No, we're not talking about that anymore. We're not We're 0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:24.239 not what you did to Combine slow. 0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:28.120 This is you got invited to the combin. 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:30.120 This is why. This is why I was a guy. 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.919 If I ran faster, it would have been better. 0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:35.480 But you were at the combine. 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.439 Yeah, you were there forty four five. 0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:40.839 We can look it up. Let's slick it up next week. 0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.279 Let's slick it up next week, and the stats next week. 0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:45.279 If you find some footage too, Chris. 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:49.200 There's no footage, there's sure, trust me, there's no footage. Okay, 0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:50.200 I'm backing. 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.080 A long time now. It's alphabetic order. You can't be 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:53.040 the back of the line. 0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:56.640 And it was like, hey, you just get back. Was 0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:57.399 the back of the group. 0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.920 So you're one of those guys that at the combine 0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:01.640 is like, you know, some guys like now, I'm not 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:03.040 going to do that drill, and just he's like, no, 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.440 I'll do it every drill. 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.080 Every drill, I'll catch every quarterback, I'll run every route. 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:11.160 Just get me out there, just maybe somebody will see me. 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.319 I'm not I'm knocking on teams though, Like y'all want 0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:18.760 to talk to me round you about the chick your fingers? Nah, 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.239 keep walking, and I think Jesse will agree with me. 0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:24.040 The guy you do not want to be, okay, is 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.479 the drill they do where they like catch the ball 0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:28.160 one way and catch the ball next and they run 0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:29.200 down that straight line. 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.680 You know what I'm talking the gauntlet, right. 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:33.839 You don't want to be the guy that gets hitting 0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:35.839 the head of the ball, because it happens at. 0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:36.520 Least once. 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.000 Guys look into the right every ball come right from 0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:41.359 the left and just get them. 0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:43.879 If you can pull at least a photo of Jesse 0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:45.440 at the combine, if I'm sure. 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:48.600 I can probably go to the scout and get one 0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:52.000 of the Let's go all right, fellas, good seeing y'all. 0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.320 See you next week, same time, same place. 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:56.760 Little gross we are. 0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.920 This has been a production of Dallas boys dot Com 0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:04.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.