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Speaker 1: Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 3: Now your hosts.

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 5: Listen to this, folks in Frisco, Texas. Eleven degrees got

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Speaker 5: down a four team last night. That's we're not built

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Speaker 5: for this anyway. Welcome to the show. Welcome back Chris.

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Speaker 3: By the way, he is Shnnon, That is Nate, This

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Speaker 3: is Kurt. In the back is Chris Bean. Welcome back Chris.

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Speaker 3: I am Salt and Pepper Poppy. Together we make hang

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Speaker 3: it with the boys, the sports talk equivalent brow people.

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Speaker 3: We got defensive line and they will when we speak.

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Speaker 6: Flavor gets its We.

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Speaker 2: We can fly like and you can get some of

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Speaker 2: them defensive line where we showed them.

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Speaker 6: That gonna be the motto. We're gonna have to hear this.

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Speaker 7: They're pretty good.

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Speaker 2: God, yes man, when you HEARDing baby, talk to me

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Speaker 2: defense You.

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Speaker 3: Got the well coaches. They talked to the coach the

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Speaker 3: other day. They said, got explosive one right here in

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Speaker 3: the house. Who is that, Maazi? They said explosive? They said,

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Speaker 3: it gets off the ball.

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Speaker 5: This is a question for you. We had a chance,

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Speaker 5: that's what they said. We've had a chance.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: Is this the perfect opportunity to change the.

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Speaker 5: Narrative about whatever you want to change the narrative about

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Speaker 5: and speak truth in this building like you you've got?

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Speaker 3: You got what truth? Though?

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm asking there.

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Speaker 3: There are multiple levels of truth, That's what I'm asking right,

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Speaker 3: it's our truth, fast in the truth. But I do

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Speaker 3: believe in the truth because truth, it's your truth, it's

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Speaker 3: my truth, is their truth?

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Speaker 6: I agree? But is there some truth to that? Since

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Speaker 6: this is the second.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you got the truth? The truth had there? You

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Speaker 3: go there, you go re searching for the truth.

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Speaker 5: They just pulled a beads got truth right red across

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Speaker 5: his forehead, So.

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Speaker 6: Are we starting off?

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Speaker 5: I've heard a lot about everybody likes this coaching staff.

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Speaker 6: Whoever's truth? You want to listen to.

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Speaker 5: Everybody likes who Schottenheimer's bringing in some good quality hires.

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Speaker 5: You know, the players seem to like the guys they're

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Speaker 5: bringing in, bringing a lot of guys from college.

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Speaker 3: Are we are.

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Speaker 5: We starting to already have some of the same narratives

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Speaker 5: that were rammed down our throat with the old administration.

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Speaker 6: You've got a chance to break.

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Speaker 5: Do your own thing right, do your own thing, create

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Speaker 5: your own narratives.

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Speaker 6: Take a wait and see the approach. Less guys are.

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Speaker 5: Gonna earn their job. We're gonna we're gonna reevaluate. But

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Speaker 5: we're starting off. To me, we're kind of starting off with, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we got we we got the guys, do we We've

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Speaker 5: heard that.

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Speaker 6: Fifteen years.

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Speaker 5: We've heard we got the guys, and then we get

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Speaker 5: the guys, and then do we really have the guys? So, like,

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Speaker 5: how do y'all feel about the way all this is

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Speaker 5: because a lot has happened over the last week, week

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Speaker 6: How do y'all feel about how it's I.

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Speaker 7: Think a lot of that is just coach speak. I mean,

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Speaker 7: they can't come out and say, man, our guy suck.

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Speaker 7: Why can't you because they've got to be they've got

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Speaker 3: They didn't get their jobs that way.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, the job that way in being

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Speaker 3: Then if they hired them, then they could say that.

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Speaker 3: But they didn't hire them.

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Speaker 5: Right, So were we worried that we're starting off being

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Speaker 5: this is the way this is. We're gonna look at everybody.

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Speaker 5: This is competition. Best man up like we we're gonna

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Speaker 6: Don't let anybody get comfortable. We've been comfortable for twenty

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's why not come in and you know what

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Speaker 5: And that's that's I think that's a If that's his way,

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Speaker 5: that's his way, But why not come in and just

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Speaker 7: Hopefully they are maybe behind the scenes publicly, I don't think,

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Speaker 6: Do it publicly.

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Speaker 7: Two thirds of those guys, they're gonna have to follow them.

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Speaker 7: You have to follow them, they have to coach. So

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Speaker 7: I don't think they're gonna come in.

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Speaker 5: I just you know, I just don't want. I just

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Speaker 5: of everything's gonna be okay, We're good, We're good. I

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Speaker 5: just want somebody to be like, hey, we'll see I

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Speaker 6: We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out who wants

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Speaker 6: go through it. That's just me. How do you guys feel?

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Speaker 3: I think, to Kurt's point, we're seeing from from Schottenheimer

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Speaker 3: To your point, I agree with you. I think that

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Speaker 3: The boat needs to be rocked. There needs to be

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Speaker 3: and the words that I'm hearing a lot is hey

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Speaker 3: But they're not coming in here with the big skins

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Speaker 3: So I do agree that we're hearing a lot of

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Speaker 3: There needs to be a more strict, more fine line

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Speaker 3: more I don't want to say walking on eggshells, but

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Speaker 3: It needs to be a level of healthy fear. There

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Speaker 3: needs to be a level of healthy fear that at

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Speaker 3: any moment, my job can be gone because these guys

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Speaker 3: didn't draft me, these guys didn't sign me. These guys

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Speaker 3: be necessary. The country club life is going to get

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Speaker 3: you seven to ten again, gonna get you nine to eight.

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Speaker 3: country club lifestyle, the you know kumba y'all, and everyone's

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Speaker 3: you know this is this isn't an equal opportunity employer.

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Speaker 3: That's not what football is. Everywhere every Jimmy said it

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Speaker 3: be that level of here's how we're moving forward.

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Speaker 7: This kind of he drops, you know, he said, obviously,

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Speaker 7: the better players you have, the better they are, better

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Speaker 7: you are or and this is a player's game, so

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Speaker 7: the talent does matter. So he I felt like he

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Speaker 7: dropped a couple of hymns that maybe they don't have

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Speaker 7: and I don't know what ad Jimmy do. Did he

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Speaker 2: No, it was a way different era of we coach

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Speaker 2: can coach have to be firm and who he is.

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Speaker 2: That's why you heard me say early when we first

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Speaker 2: talked started talking about coach Schattenheimer is.

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Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: But when somebody get out of line or things don't

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Speaker 2: go right, let's see what you do.

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Speaker 3: Let's see how you respond.

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Speaker 2: Do we have to well, we're gonna keep it in

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Speaker 2: house and nothing ever get done or this guy has already,

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Speaker 2: this has already been taken care of and you can

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Speaker 2: visibly see it.

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Speaker 3: So I just I just want to see what they're

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to a lot of people, like Jesse, having

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Speaker 2: all of you guys, all of us talking to a

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Speaker 2: lot of people, and and I can't say I know

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Speaker 2: this for sure. So now everybody's waiting to see mode.

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Speaker 2: You want eggshells, you want hey, you gotta be more political,

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Speaker 2: you know, and just in the middle. And so I'm nowhere, bro,

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, what is going to happen?

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Speaker 7: I should say that. I don't necessarily think that I'm

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Speaker 7: with you. I would like to see some I don't

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Speaker 7: think they're going to say that publicly.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're not.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, it's been a long time since we

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Speaker 2: us talking heads have been in a position where we

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Speaker 2: just can't throw any daggers. I mean what, we haven't

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Speaker 2: even say what's a good record because we don't know

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Speaker 2: what the players are. You've got twenty six free agents,

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Speaker 2: so we can't say, well, hey, if they go seven wins,

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Speaker 2: we can't even.

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Speaker 3: Move forward because we don't know what to move forward with. What.

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Speaker 2: You know, they just a bunch of They just like us,

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Speaker 3: He lied to Coach Reed. Coach Reed cut him on

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Speaker 2: Several years later, Coach Reed codes back and get this guy.

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Speaker 2: And you ought to just hear the gushing admiration this

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Speaker 3: On which you yest. That's good stuff.

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Speaker 6: Would you say Jimmy was a players coach?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you can't get a man hated him to death,

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Speaker 3: To go, and that's greatness.

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Speaker 2: Why would Tom Brady call Belichick? They didn't have a

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Speaker 3: Why? Evidently was something there players. That's good stuff. Boy,

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Speaker 3: that's some good stuff though.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's take our first break when we come back.

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Speaker 5: A lot of talk about the salary cap the last

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Speaker 5: all right, good stuff that first segment about the coaching staff.

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Speaker 5: so they can just glide on out of uh, glide

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Speaker 5: on out of here, your guy Dez. Jesse had some

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Speaker 6: Des agrees with you.

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Speaker 5: He thinks the Cowboys are rebuilding and he says it sucks.

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Speaker 5: So how do we feel about, you know, the moves

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be very interesting. I think we'll know here.

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Speaker 6: What a couple couple of weeks, two weeks, three weeks.

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Speaker 6: Social media will know about it. I don't know. I

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Speaker 6: What do you think their intentions will be in free agency?

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Speaker 5: Do you think they're clearing out roster space and this

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Speaker 3: They're gonna just getting more and more expensive the day.

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Speaker 5: Players must all good players must just love being free

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Speaker 5: But what do you guys think as far as free agency?

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Speaker 5: Do you do you look for a massive, just brand

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Speaker 3: have red shirt years. You got guys who are there

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Speaker 3: doing winter workouts, spring ball. They never leave, They never leave,

444
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Speaker 3: right like, you always have access to these guys to develop.

445
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Speaker 3: It's not like when you guys know it's busy here.

446
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Speaker 3: One day that season ends, ghost Town. You don't see it.

447
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Speaker 3: You know, next time you might see it. Joke, it

448
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Speaker 3: gonna be on social media. He gonna be two shades

449
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Speaker 3: in a way. And so the coaching staff and what

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Speaker 3: they're good at leads me to believe that they're going

451
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Speaker 3: back or staying with their mo draft develop, draft, develop,

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Speaker 3: and so in this process they're in that rebuilding stage

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Speaker 3: because when they when they had money, when the Dak

454
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Speaker 3: was on his rookie deal, they didn't spend money in

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Speaker 3: free agency. They have they have long been one of

456
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Speaker 3: the least spending teams and the numbers document that spending

457
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Speaker 3: in free agency. So unless the thirty years drought is

458
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden coming to an end, this is

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Speaker 3: a part of their rebuild.

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Speaker 5: Do they do it a good enough job at because

461
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Speaker 5: that's their that's what they do. They they draft, they develop,

462
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Speaker 5: and when the price gets to how they let.

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Speaker 6: Them go, they they don't. They don't keep gouy unless.

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Speaker 5: It's a superstar, a Dak or a Mic or you know,

465
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Speaker 5: a skilled, high high skill position player. Right, do you

466
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Speaker 5: think they do a good enough job? Obviously the results

467
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Speaker 5: aren't there. But from a player development standpoint, are they

468
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Speaker 5: doing a good enough job keeping that pipeline going to

469
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Speaker 5: where that's a good business model or should they develop

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Speaker 5: them and then when they get when the price gets

471
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Speaker 5: too high, should they be paying some of these guys

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Speaker 5: and not let them go.

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Speaker 7: To me.

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Speaker 3: It's it's you you will McLay and his drafting, his

475
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Speaker 3: scouts and is drafting they for the time that he's

476
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Speaker 3: been here, relatively speaking, they've been really good at it.

477
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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: They they your favorite players that you enjoy watching and

479
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Speaker 3: have Buck jerseys and have posters on the walls and

480
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Speaker 3: come to see play every Sunday. Has grown. Yeah, it's

481
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Speaker 3: when you miss, and they've missed in the last two years,

482
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Speaker 3: which is set back the process because the process you

483
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Speaker 3: want to have is you want to be able to

484
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Speaker 3: draft these guys, develop these guys, and now they be

485
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Speaker 3: so good that I don't the pieces that I bring

486
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Speaker 3: in don't have to be these great pieces, right, I

487
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Speaker 3: can go and get these smaller pieces to go with

488
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Speaker 3: the pieces that we've developed, homegrown, developed, and now we're

489
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Speaker 3: able to go out there and put twelve and five seasons, thirteen,

490
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Speaker 3: three seasons and fourteen whatever that number is. But when

491
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Speaker 3: you miss, especially in your first three rounds, it sets

492
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Speaker 3: you back significantly because those guys, first round guys, they

493
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Speaker 3: gotta have I media impact. If you're a first round guy,

494
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Speaker 3: you have to have a high percentage of being an

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Speaker 3: immediate impact player. Second round guy, same thing, third round guy.

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Speaker 3: We're looking for you to look, we're looking for you

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Speaker 3: to be in the mix of this thing. Now. Anything

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Speaker 3: that I get in the fourth, fifth, sixth round free agent,

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Speaker 3: excuse me, undrafted, are those are helping pieces if they hit,

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Speaker 3: bonus if they don't hit. Not actually looking from the

501
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Speaker 3: hit right now, those are the developed guys that we're

502
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Speaker 3: looking at. But when we don't hit in the first

503
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Speaker 3: three rounds two years in a row, you set your

504
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Speaker 3: franchise back. Now because you're saying, we have so many

505
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: holes now coming into this year. Mazi didn't hit where

506
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: you have a hole at defensive line. For what it

507
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: looks like today, Tyler Guiden didn't hit, you have another

508
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Speaker 3: hole in the offensive line, right your your maris little

509
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: foul was okay. Uh the marion he got, he got,

510
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 3: he got hurt. So created more holes. So Schoolmaker didn't hit,

511
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Speaker 3: Kneeland got hurt. Sam Williams a couple of years ago

512
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Speaker 3: got hurt. So now all the guys that you've needed

513
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Speaker 3: to be impact players for your draft development and then

514
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Speaker 3: get the swallow pieces to come in haven't hit. So

515
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Speaker 3: that's at you so far back to now you have

516
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Speaker 3: found yourself in a place three years later of we

517
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Speaker 3: got to reach. I have to get a guy that hits.

518
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Speaker 3: Now I have to now pay a cost to a

519
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Speaker 3: guy like Osa. And I said to some of my

520
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 3: other shows about a guy like Osa is. Osa's value

521
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Speaker 3: has become a product of the system. Oh say the

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Speaker 3: twenty million dollar play, y'all, Like, I'm not. I don't

523
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Speaker 3: want to Osa. I want you to get all the moneys.

524
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Speaker 3: You could possibly get all of it, all of it,

525
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Speaker 3: all of it. But Osa is not a He's not

526
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Speaker 3: he's not a ninety million dollar football player. But he'll

527
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Speaker 3: get that. He'll get that because of the way that

528
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys did their situation and not having guys hit.

529
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Speaker 3: If Bozzie hits, If Bozzie hits, Osa is a foegone conclusion.

530
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Speaker 3: If Mozzie who they thought Mozzie was supposed to be,

531
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Speaker 3: they say, oh, so we I got I got fifteen

532
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Speaker 3: million dollars for you. I got two years fifteen million.

533
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Speaker 3: Do I got twenty million dollars for you for three years,

534
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Speaker 3: and now you become a piece of it. But because

535
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: Mazzi didn't hit, and it looked so bad, and the

536
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Speaker 3: others around him didn't hit, and it looks so bad,

537
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Speaker 3: and he stood out. Now you look around and it's

538
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: not a big market. It's it's not a bunch of

539
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: free agent defensive interior defensive lineman right now. The value

540
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: goes up supply and demand.

541
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Speaker 5: So it's a good business model as long as you

542
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Speaker 5: don't have injuries and you don't miss, and you don't miss,

543
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 5: which which everybody misses and everybody, but when you missed.

544
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Speaker 3: Two years in the like right, listen, they drafted Tyron Smith,

545
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Speaker 3: they drafted Zach Martin, they drafted Frederick's Zeke dak CD

546
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Speaker 3: CD Mikah, Like there were teams that they had that

547
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Speaker 3: was purely draft based players, Like the stars of the

548
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Speaker 3: team were god that were drafted and developed and they

549
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Speaker 3: hit over and over and over. You're like, you look up,

550
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Speaker 3: You're like, damn, it's a good football team. You look

551
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Speaker 3: at that. Twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen type teams.

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Speaker 3: Those teams were damn good teams.

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Speaker 6: Well they didn't. They didn't really miss a first rounder.

554
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Speaker 6: They were hitting for till what last uh two years?

555
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Speaker 7: Yeah, talker Charlton, right.

556
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Speaker 3: It will never be. They never missed on offensive ever.

557
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: They were hitting. They were hitting, and when you hit

558
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: the way they were hitting, those gods will turn it

559
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: in the Pro bowlers.

560
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Speaker 5: So do you just nate if you're them and you're like,

561
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 5: we're really really good at this, we're not so great

562
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Speaker 5: at drafting. In the first few rounds. You can't stop

563
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 5: those guys from Michigan. So let's don't ever take a

564
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 5: guy from Michigan. Let's just draft first round live.

565
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: Lewis is a good Yuy, you still got to do

566
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Speaker 3: your homework.

567
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Speaker 6: I love George not in that mix.

568
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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm that guy, the best guy regardless of

569
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't want nothing to do with Michigan.

570
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Speaker 3: But if that guy is the man Mason Graham Michigan player,

571
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: we will well, he will be there if he gets

572
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Speaker 3: there at twelve, whoa, you know, so it might be

573
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: a gas mask situation. I even think still, I still

574
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Speaker 3: believe if he has a gas mask on he ain't

575
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Speaker 3: making it to.

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Speaker 5: Twelve, But would you, like, is that a valid question

577
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 5: if you're really that good at hitting on offensive lineman

578
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 5: and trading back and knowing like I can do this

579
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: and you need like it's what is that not a

580
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 5: bad business model? Like, hey, we know we're gonna nail this.

581
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Speaker 5: Or do you always still just say it's best player?

582
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Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's gonna say best player.

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Speaker 7: You felt last year off it's you probably reached out

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Speaker 7: for him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you reached right the other ones you didn't

586
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Speaker 6: really reach for. Well, I guess.

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Speaker 3: I don't get you had about you had a battle

588
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: for uh for Zack Martin. You had a battle. Yeah,

589
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: boss was going with Johnny Manziel. Yeah, Boss was getting

590
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: Boss said give me Johnny Manzel. They said, whoa, whoa, whoa,

591
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: whoa whoa? Do you not hear Coach said about behind clothes.

592
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: Let's go get something a little bit more confident we

593
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: can we can rely on. And it worked out right

594
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: because Zach Martin gave you, I mean ten nine ten years,

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Speaker 3: great years.

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Speaker 5: That pick was we we did mean tweets that year

597
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Speaker 5: and that was probably the most real relatable tweet I'd

598
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Speaker 5: ever heard you know, we've got the guys to read

599
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Speaker 5: the players, I mean the players to read the tweets,

600
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Speaker 5: and it was I really liked the Zach Martin pick,

601
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Speaker 5: but it's like one of Xbox one for Christmas and

602
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Speaker 5: getting a pair of socks.

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Speaker 3: I remember that.

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Speaker 5: talk about is the salary cap even real? And is

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Speaker 5: there anybody on this team that you guys would franchise

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Speaker 5: dating partner of the Dallas Cowboy.

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Speaker 12: Yes, saw Baby, Jig, saw hight Nate. We met mentioned

661
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 12: salary cap and you almost today he is. We just

662
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 12: mentioned salary cap and you almost took the head bones off.

663
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 6: And walked out.

664
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 5: Why why what do you have? Why are you so

665
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: angry at the salary cap?

666
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: Because for the last seven eight years we've we've talked

667
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: about Sarah cap, Sarah cap, and it didn't benefit us.

668
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: And we had decent players and it didn't benefit us. Okay,

669
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: now we spend to talk sary Cap, sary Cap and

670
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: the player and the players, we don't have the same

671
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: quality of players.

672
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: What good is it gonna do us?

673
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean when we when we had a chance

674
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: to get it, to get guys in free agency to

675
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: help us get over the top, mainly that Green Bay

676
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: year when we flopped, we could have went out and

677
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: found us somebody defensively that could have could have brought

678
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: some pressure or something.

679
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 7: It's time they Yeah, you talked about draft developed earlier.

680
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 7: I mean it's time they need to. I mean, all

681
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 7: these teams are making runs. They've you know, free agents.

682
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 7: You know, maybe it's time to use some free.

683
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 2: Agency and people keep you know, you listen to folks

684
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: you know around here, the cap ologies not that people

685
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: over there in mister Jones office from about our media

686
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: can just tell you this, this, this, this this, and

687
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: feed D fans all of this, this, this, this, this this, well,

688
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: just four or five years ago, three four years ago

689
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: to Rams, they said the RAMS is gonna be in

690
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: cap Hill. But the SCD to me, that was in

691
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: the second round, the second round of the playoffs. It

692
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: was in the second round of the playoffs. He's how

693
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: many Eagles was goin to fall off because they had

694
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: what it was gonna be in Caphill. They won the

695
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl in cap Hill.

696
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 3: I can't get that. I can't buy it. Not I'm

697
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: a fan.

698
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: I buy season tickets, so I can't buy it. I'm

699
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 2: buying season tickets. I want to know getting cap hell

700
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: so my wife.

701
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 6: Can be happy.

702
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: Sounded like a woman, right, get it? Make me?

703
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 13: Yeah?

704
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 5: So there, So there, there's gonna be a bump in

705
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: the salary cap somewhere between what is it, kurt two

706
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy seven to two hundred and eighty one

707
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: million somewhere in there.

708
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 7: In two hundred and fifty five passed.

709
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: It's about a twenty something million dollar bump.

710
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 5: Which it goes up what every year, every couple of years,

711
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 5: every year the TV money.

712
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: Last year it went up.

713
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a bigger bump than ever.

714
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: Than it normally is. So somewhere around like fifty six million.

715
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: Over the last two years, the salary cap has raised

716
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: two years fifty six million.

717
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 6: So is it a real Is it a real number?

718
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 5: Because like Nate said, you keep hearing their in cap hell.

719
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 5: But they everybody keeps finding creative ways to push the

720
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 5: money back, and you just keep pushing it, pushing it.

721
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 5: We talked about that on the last show. And as

722
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 5: the pie grows, the salaries grow, so it eats up

723
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 5: the extra money because they can spend more on guys,

724
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 5: and then then it brings the market up. So you're

725
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 5: really just chasing. It's like inflation, right, You're just it's.

726
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: The credit card. Yeah, it's the credit card.

727
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 6: You make more money, but the eggs cost more.

728
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 5: But right, you know, and then it just you know,

729
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: you're not really there's really no extra money there.

730
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: But the the ingenious way or the the way that

731
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: people are trying to look like the Philadelphia is the

732
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: best example right now. It's the best example. The first

733
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: thing the Cowboys when you're talking about salary cap money

734
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: is you got to stop doing what you're doing now,

735
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: meaning you let Osa get to the end of his deal.

736
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: Let everybody get to the end of their deal. Right Osa,

737
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: two years ago, if this was a player that you

738
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: looked at, it said Osi a Diggiezua, I like you,

739
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: I won't you No, I like you Geld It.

740
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 6: Got even for half half right.

741
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: But what you've done now is I created the market.

742
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: I now have control over this player at a reasonable

743
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 3: price that I can push further along if I like to, right,

744
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: And now I can go and use that other money

745
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: to bring in other players. But you let these guys

746
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: get to the end of their deal and like Osa

747
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: for example, who this isn't I don't like when I

748
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: say it. I don't want to come up like I'm

749
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: sounding like I'm shading Osa. But you let them get

750
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: to an end of the deal and have a good year.

751
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 3: And now you're facing the market now when you didn't

752
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: have to face the market two years ago. If this

753
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: was the guy that you were going to bring and

754
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: anticipation that the market is the salary cat will go

755
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: up after about it. Last year he thought it was

756
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: going to go up ten million. It went up sixteen

757
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: million or whatever it is. So it's football is not dying, fellas.

758
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 3: This is not a dying sport. This is not basketball,

759
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: This ain't baseball, this ain't hockey. This is the most

760
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: profitable sport in all of sports. It keeps growing. The

761
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: TV deals, the marketing deals, it just keeps rising. It

762
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: is the It is when you go. When you look

763
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: at the TV ratings and now football is everywhere. You

764
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: got a hard time finding football. It's it's on nineteen networks.

765
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: It's on nineteen networks. You gotta have twenty seven thousand

766
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: streaming services to see football. Last year, football was played

767
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: on every single day except Tuesday. Coming soon, it was

768
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: played on every single day of the week except Tuesday

769
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: or Wednesday, one of the two. But it was played

770
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: on every single day. They got it on Amazon, they

771
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: got an own Prime, they got an own Hulu, they

772
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: got it on YouTube. That is everywhere. The numbers ain't

773
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 3: going down. When you're going, you back and you watch

774
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: how football is being watched. They did the top one

775
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 3: hundred viewing things on TV ninety seven of them was football.

776
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: Ninety seven of them were football. The top three were football,

777
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: top ten were football. I think it was like the

778
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: Grammys and something else. Of the top one hundred viewed

779
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: things on foot on TV ninety seven or football games.

780
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: The money will be there. They have to be willing

781
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: to buck what they are comfortable doing.

782
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 7: This is.

783
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: This is at times why people ask for a new

784
00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: GM because when you don't, you ever have the seat

785
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: being hot. Jerry's I don't care what people say. I

786
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: don't care what people say. That seat ain't never hot.

787
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: I don't give a damn what people say. I don't

788
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: care what the fans see. They't hot. The only the

789
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: only person that he's fighting against with that seat is

790
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: Hiven father time. That's it.

791
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 9: That set.

792
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: It ain't hot. So I don't have to move in

793
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: such a way. You move, you move in these certain ways,

794
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: you get super duper creative, You get super duper innovative

795
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: and and and sometimes desperate warriors when you get in

796
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: the hot seat, when you're when your back's against the wall,

797
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: when you have to perform because you know that your

798
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: job may be up if you don't. Why do I?

799
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 3: Why do I have to change my ways?

800
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: Who?

801
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: As the young people say, who checking me? Boo? Who

802
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 3: checking me? Nobody's checking me? And when we start talking

803
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: about you're starting to see now teams starting to sell

804
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: portions of their of their franchise to get some liquid

805
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: cash to make these particular moves, because they're saying, if

806
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: we pay, if we pay the bill up front, we

807
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: get the product. We'll make the money on the back

808
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: end in merchandise and ticket sales and parking and all

809
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. The problem is Jerry's saying, I

810
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: already won. I already win that already what you're trying

811
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 3: to do, I'm already want. I'm already the best selling

812
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: in merchandise. I'm already the best selling in concessions. Set

813
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: out the Legends concessions. I'm already the best in attendance

814
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: every single year. I have one hundred thousand seeds on

815
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: My parking is probably the best because I have one

816
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 3: of the biggest stadiums Watch Change, So that's the money's

817
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: there to do these things. It's there. You have to

818
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: be willing and wanting to do it to be competitive.

819
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 6: Nate, would you franchise anybody on this year?

820
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: No, sir, No, nobody's good enough.

821
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 5: Just had a good stat that he told us in

822
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 5: the break eight eight players last year were franchise league wide.

823
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 6: Is there anybody you guys franchise here?

824
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, not not worth paying that price.

825
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 6: No top five money, All right, Kurt? Anything else you

826
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 6: want to hear before we get out of here?

827
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess the old Brian really apology thought our

828
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 7: first segment was horrible?

829
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: Brian? Yeah, who is Brian? Exactly? What talk about called

830
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: me as we love your brother.

831
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 6: I guess we talked to thanks for watching too much.

832
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 6: We got your See what happens when we finally talked football.

833
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 6: No one wants to hear no one wants to hear

834
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 6: us talking about football.

835
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm reading the book. I'm reading the new book. I

836
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: said to my Yeah, I'm reading. I'm reading books twenty

837
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: twenty five. Okay, what you're reading? The first book I'm

838
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 3: reading it's called Four Agreements. Okay, and so that's my

839
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: first book of twenty twenty about the four agreements. It's

840
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: it's it's reprogram in your mind and freeing yourself up

841
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 3: of the old agreements that you've made in your life

842
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: with these four new agreements. Uh, that you would and uh.

843
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: The four agreements are one is being being peccable with

844
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: your word. The second agreement is I'm gonna I'm gonna

845
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: rest this up. But the second agreement is, shoot, I

846
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: just was reading sapter you last night. Uh, never take

847
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: anything personally. The third agreement is what's the third agreement, Jess?

848
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. The fourth agreement, UH will be I

849
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: haven't gotten that chapter yet, but that one's going to be.

850
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: Uh, just do your best forget the third one.

851
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: Our words are impeccable, though, and we don't. We don't.

852
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: We don't take it personally. See, it's not a it's

853
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: not what you're saying about us. It's not about us.

854
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: It's about you, and we don't take it personally at

855
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: all at all. We want you to continue to be

856
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: who you are and whatever you believe, and you trust

857
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: in you that's what you believe, and we'll do what

858
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: we do. But we thank you for listening.

859
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 7: I think he just felt like we coaches wouldn't dog

860
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 7: their players publicly.

861
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 6: I say, otherwise, I didn't say dog that that miss

862
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 6: dog is.

863
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: I don't.

864
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 5: I don't even thank you. My whole thing was, don't

865
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 5: talk about specific players. Just say hey, we're going to

866
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 5: evaluate every position. I feel like that's that's not.

867
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 7: I haven't heard this before. He says that Jimmy said

868
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 7: that to cut you because you're overweight, but then he

869
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 7: gave you a chance and you proved him wrong.

870
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: No, it was, uh no, it didn't totally come like that. No, no,

871
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: because everybody wanted Jimmy to cut me. Jimmy said, we don't.

872
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: We're not looking at the same film. Basically, you tell them.

873
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 3: You know you're not. We're not looking at the same film.

874
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Four agreements, be impeccable with your word. The

875
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: second agreement, don't take anything personally. We don't take anything

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Speaker 3: personally here. The third agreement is don't make assumptions. Don't

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Speaker 3: make assumption in. The fourth agreement is always do your

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Speaker 3: best at least.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the third one. I'm not making an assumption

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Speaker 2: or this coach you staff for players.

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Speaker 5: I'm reading a new book to what Oscar the Grouch

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Speaker 5: South of every every night.

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Speaker 3: That's I'm reading a new book too. What it's called Backpack.

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Speaker 6: I'm getting better, Nate better, getting better?

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Speaker 13: What Chris Chris Chris, he's been out of town for

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Speaker 13: a week.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we haven't played together in probably two or three

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Speaker 6: weeks month.

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Speaker 3: I think you know who loves our show, My homegirl, Shelby.

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Speaker 3: I call the shows. Shelby loves our show. She thinks

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Speaker 3: our show is hilarious.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Shelby.

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Speaker 3: She never listens to our so she never listens to

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Speaker 3: our show live. She waits till the next day that

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Speaker 3: she goes to the gym. So our show air today,

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Speaker 3: She's gonna watch it tomorrow morning. When she goes to

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Speaker 3: the Jets. She's working out, and she's like, people think

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Speaker 3: I'm crazy because the way I'd be dying. Laugh and

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Speaker 3: watch her hang with the boys at six am in

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Speaker 3: the morning on the treadmill. Keep it, keep it real,

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Speaker 3: miss Shelby.

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Speaker 6: We'll have to go back to non football talk for

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Speaker 6: Shelby next week.

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Speaker 3: Since we're she loves it all.

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Speaker 6: She loves it all, so good stuff. I talk to

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Speaker 6: Combine and what Jesse's scores were.

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Speaker 3: No, we're not talking about that anymore. We're not We're

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Speaker 3: not what you did to Combine slow.

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Speaker 6: This is you got invited to the combin.

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Speaker 3: This is why. This is why I was a guy.

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Speaker 3: If I ran faster, it would have been better.

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Speaker 6: But you were at the combine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were there forty four five.

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Speaker 6: We can look it up. Let's slick it up next week.

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Speaker 5: Let's slick it up next week, and the stats next week.

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Speaker 5: If you find some footage too, Chris.

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Speaker 3: There's no footage, there's sure, trust me, there's no footage. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm backing.

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Speaker 6: A long time now. It's alphabetic order. You can't be

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Speaker 6: the back of the line.

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Speaker 3: And it was like, hey, you just get back. Was

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Speaker 3: the back of the group.

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Speaker 14: So you're one of those guys that at the combine

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Speaker 14: is like, you know, some guys like now, I'm not

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Speaker 14: going to do that drill, and just he's like, no,

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Speaker 14: I'll do it every drill.

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Speaker 5: Every drill, I'll catch every quarterback, I'll run every route.

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Speaker 5: Just get me out there, just maybe somebody will see me.

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm knocking on teams though, Like y'all want

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Speaker 3: to talk to me round you about the chick your fingers? Nah,

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Speaker 3: keep walking, and I think Jesse will agree with me.

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Speaker 14: The guy you do not want to be, okay, is

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Speaker 14: the drill they do where they like catch the ball

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Speaker 14: one way and catch the ball next and they run

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Speaker 14: down that straight line.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm talking the gauntlet, right.

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Speaker 14: You don't want to be the guy that gets hitting

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Speaker 14: the head of the ball, because it happens at.

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Speaker 6: Least once.

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Speaker 14: Guys look into the right every ball come right from

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Speaker 14: the left and just get them.

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Speaker 6: If you can pull at least a photo of Jesse

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Speaker 6: at the combine, if I'm sure.

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Speaker 14: I can probably go to the scout and get one

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Speaker 14: of the Let's go all right, fellas, good seeing y'all.

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Speaker 6: See you next week, same time, same place.

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Speaker 3: Little gross we are.

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