WEBVTT - VPR EP Alex Baskin 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:07.400 Hello, gorgeous. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.320 Oh my freaking god, I cannot believe it. We are 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.240 back for season eleven. We're recapping shit. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.639 I feel like I'm gonna shit my pants. We have 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:21.000 Alex Basket as my guest today, our guest. Welcome to 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:22.880 the casting couch, the legitimate one. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:27.120 Thank you for having me casting couch. Are you nervous 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.240 a little bit? I have to say. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.400 I'm a little starstruck because usually I talk to you 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:35.040 and we just like shoot the shit. But now you're 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.920 sitting here and I'm like, Okay, this is the creator 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:43.559 of all things that make me survive during like the 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:48.240 rough moments, like you are the person that created ohc 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:53.280 bh vander Pump. I mean, do you ever think, like, 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.720 holy shit, everything I touch turns to gold? 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.840 No, not at all, because I just always think that 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.120 everyday gold is going to turn and shit trying to 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.160 keep them going, and sometimes I just wonder how I'm 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:05.560 still here? 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:06.680 That makes sense. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.680 Yeah, I'm very curious about how you got into producing. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:15.039 Well, producing reality television. Was that always the goal or 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.200 were you like wanting to be in movies and scripted. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.360 I used to joke that no one's goal was to 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.600 end up in reality you just did so totally and 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.520 it's changed obviously. I think that, you know, in the 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.360 pecking order of things, reality is much higher, and I 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.080 think things are blurred and blended now. But I got 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.399 into it as accidentally as anyone. I grew up in 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.959 LA My dad was a writer, and I got an 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.000 internship at MTV the summer after my senior year in 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.280 high school. And that's when MTV was doing a lot 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.200 of cool shit, and I just loved it. I loved 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.120 all of the action. I love the fact that you 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.800 could go from idea to air quickly. And I loved 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.480 it so much that I went off to law school. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.400 So I designed that maybe I wanted to be an 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.360 attorney and love law school. Knew I did not want 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.960 to practice law. I looked around at the successful partners 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.200 and firms that I've worked for over the summers, and 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.600 I thought, I don't want one thing that you have, Like, 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.000 I'm very bored by this. So I called up Doug 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.919 Ross from Evolution, who I had met when I was 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.800 at MTV, and I was like, do you remember me 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.079 all these years ago? And you thought that I was 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.840 a bright young kid and it wanted to hire me? 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.920 Do you have a place for me, and he hired me, 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.280 and so that was my only job for many years 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.160 until I started my own company. And he just kind 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.000 of caught the wave. And you know, when reality became 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.840 as big as it did, and it made all of 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.840 those cable networks in particular, and so I was an 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.040 ambitious young person at a time that an industry was booming. 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.720 That's amazing, really amazing. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:48.960 What did you work on specific Were you like working 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.480 on the Real World MTV? 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:55.640 No, you know, I was working in development, but I 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.600 had the balls more then than I do now to 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.200 pitch them when I was interning there. So I set 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.359 up a meeting and I set up a pilot there 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.399 for a project that I wanted to do with them, 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.040 and I got like dressed up and sorted this formal meeting, 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.000 and so that's how I ended up meeting a few 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.400 producers because needed someone to actually make that. But I 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.320 just I love the fact that you could make anything possible. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.600 And the fun thing at the time too, was just 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.560 you know, pop culture trends were set by MTV. And 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:25.880 that's the thing that was so fun about the current 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.000 wave that we're riding on. Vander Pump Rules is It's 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.200 one of the few recent examples of everyone coming together 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.240 and watching a show at the same time. It's just 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.440 a conversation across the board, you know. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.200 Right, like, no matter what your background was, where you 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.880 came from, what you did for a living, Like it 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.600 was to the point where you couldn't not acknowledge that 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.560 it was happening, because it was everywhere. You said that 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:55.800 scanned of all, what it was coined was the craziest 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.160 thing that had happened to our show, but it's also 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.000 kind of the worst thing that happened to our show. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.920 So when Scanaval happened and we decided to go into 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.960 season eleven, what were your fears? 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.200 Well, I thought, contrary to what certain people in certain 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:13.160 quarters have said about that incident or not that incident, 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:17.000 that controversy saving the show, the truth is we were 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.720 making a great show in season ten, and in fact, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.000 we had made a great season and it was a 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.760 bounce back season, and the audience was into it, and 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:29.159 I felt like it there's a danger in burning too 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.640 fast and too brightly. And I also thought that is 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.240 the one thing that has happened to this group that 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.920 has threatened to tear it completely apart. Everything else has 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.800 been something we've been able to overcome. And I didn't 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.240 know that we could put the pieces back together, and 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.840 so I thought, look, I would trade putting aside all 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.560 of the human damage and everything else, just purely analytically 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.719 as a producer. I wish it ever happened. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:05:00.320 Wow, wild really And you think that will never change 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:00.839 that opinion? 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.919 It could, And I mean, you know other things that 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.400 have come out of it, like, for example, the Valley, 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.320 you know, the new series, which may or may not 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.040 have happened if there weren't such momentum. So I think 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.600 there's that and I think, you know, things change in 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.719 unexpected ways, but that is the way that for a 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.840 while that I felt. And you know that's still my 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.479 analysis right now. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.240 Well yeah, because if you think about it now, now 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:30.400 I have like the big wig backing up what I 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.200 have said right that no matter whether whether Scandabal happened 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.280 or not, season ten was going to be great. And 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.440 all of these people saying it was set up to 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:45.200 make season ten or make the show pop off. We've 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.160 been popping, not at this level, but we have our 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.080 main producer saying I wish it wouldn't have happened because 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.000 for the first time ever, you have a group of 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.920 people where it's like, where, how do we rebuild? How 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.599 do we even move on from this? And I said, 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.760 this is a group for season eleven, this is a 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.560 group of people, And I said, it's for the first time, 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:07.599 we're all very selfish. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.279 Now I know that we're a selfish group. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:13.240 From what it looks like, for the first time ever, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.400 no one gives a damn about anybody except themselves. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.080 Everyone is living up their own ass. 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.720 Season eleven, it's it's gonna be a wild season to watch. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:25.720 Do you think it's good? 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.839 Like I haven't seen it obviously, I've seen the first episode. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.520 You've seen quite a few cuts. Do you think it's good? 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:33.920 I do. I think it's really good. And I wasn't 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.800 sure that it would be. So I had great trepidation 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.479 going into the season because I thought we had less 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.640 control than we've ever had. And there's just, you know, 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:45.840 the show that you might want to make, and then 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.000 there's the one that you do make that you have 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:49.599 to make, which is just you know, sort of where 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.400 everyone is. And so we can't bring the group back 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.320 together if that's not where they are, and we have 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.240 there's a questions all the time, like you know, well, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.520 uh what about Arianna shooting with Tom? Whatever? It's like, 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.080 what are we supposed to do? Right? I mean, you know, 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.760 we sort of take people for where they are. But 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.520 I think it's fascinating. I think that it's still really 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.080 interesting to see the dynamics. Interestingly, even with Arianna and Tom, 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.800 the fact that they live together through the season is wild. 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.800 So I think people are going to enjoy seeing that documented. 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:24.360 No, it really it's. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.320 The Is that a storyline for them? Also? 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.600 That's what I thought looking down, Did they live together 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:32.760 for a storyline? 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:33.480 Oh? 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.800 You mean you mean you mean like years ago right 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.960 in the houses there, Like it'll be a great story. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.280 You couldn't get them to agree on anything. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.560 But if I was seriously just getting the hell out, yeah, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:47.280 I don't care. 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.840 No, but that's what the season, that's we'll see, right, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.320 You're going to see it all play out. Because there's 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.640 a lot of things that are said that you're like, 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.640 I can't get down with what you're saying because of 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.040 the way that you're moving and I don't understand this. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.520 By the way, Easton does not watch reality TV. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:03.440 I have to start. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.200 I just told him about the episode where I told 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.200 Stacy and Kristen to wrap it up looking like a 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:10.239 drunk shit sue. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.000 I have something to go home and watch. They has 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:15.360 no idea. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.120 It's so different from me, Like I've never watched it, 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.760 even when like your first season when I was like, oh, 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.280 maybe i'll watch it, I watched one and it's so weird, 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:24.040 saying like. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.640 Your sister just do all this shit, and then you. 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.200 See her like making out with James, and I'm like, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:33.400 I can't know it it is. It's just so different 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.080 from like a brother's standpoint. I can't get by, but 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.480 I'm gonna. I'm gonna try my hardest, but I like 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.280 I can do the Valley. It's just like when you're 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:42.760 on it. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.400 It's like, h the Valley. I can't wait for. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.559 And you did say if there wasn't so much momentum, 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.959 like you never know if if the Valley would have 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.880 happened or not, Like we really will never know. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.000 I'm so excited about it. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.200 Can you give us any sort of teachers about the 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:58.040 valley teaser? 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.320 And what is the main difference between py U seeing 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.000 the Valley and producing vander Pump. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:06.840 Good question. Okay, so here's my teas. We start the 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:11.839 valley with a crossover between Jack's and Tom Sandaval and 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.080 so you have Jax joining Boys Night, which is with 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:20.079 Schwartz and James and Sandoval, and Jax has a few 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:24.120 choice words for sand of fal Okay and it's really fun. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.839 And then we see Jacks drive over the hill and 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:33.920 go into the valley. So do I it is it's 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:35.400 cinematic in our world? 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:40.000 Yes, of course. I mean, this is like when it's 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:41.000 the start of a new production. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:45.240 No, but it's like remembering being in Utah and watching 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.880 Beverly Hills and all of a sudden, I'm watching a 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.480 new show called vander Pump Rules. Remember you you did 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:53.760 a similar crosshow so? 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.880 Yeah, yeah, we did. Yeah, I mean in that one. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.160 It's funny. I almost hate to invoke that one because 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.000 we can't POSSI compared to that because the stakes were 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:07.199 so high and so we'd like one hundred percent audience retention. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.480 I'd love to say that was my idea. It was not. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.760 It was someone else's and then I know helped put 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:15.360 it into motion, right, But you know, this still will 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.000 give you the feeling of being in one and then 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.000 being in the next one. And I think where the 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:24.240 Valley is very different is it's a different phase in life, 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:29.320 and the idea is adulting. And it's also that this 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.800 is a group that is trying to raise families or 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.520 figure out what's next, but they don't have anything figured out. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.880 And so that's the fun of it to me, is 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.960 that Jax is still. 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.600 Jacks Sis will never not be anything kids. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.480 Yeah, that's what it is. And so you know, Jack's 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.160 preaches and proclaims that he has grown up and everyone 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.160 needs to find the maturity that he has, and we 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.840 see by the end of the first episode that that's dubious. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.920 I am so excited to watch this I'm hearing. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.000 Do you think it's accurate when people say it's it's 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.720 a show that falls somewhere in between vander Pump Rules 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:06.559 and Housewives. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:07.520 That's how I pitched it. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:12.199 Oh okay, so you would say that's true, Yeah, okay. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.680 Did you show a lot of like the kids and 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:15.720 them being parents? 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.640 We show a We show a good amount. We show 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.640 enough so that you can see that they are all 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.480 caring parents and kind of trying to figure it out. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.240 But at the same time, there's only so much that 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.760 you can watch of children, right, and I meanty even 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.280 thing for you, Like, doesn't it stretch you out to 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:31.600 watch people with their children? 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:33.760 I don't mean to be rude. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.480 I just don't care about other right too, I just 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.640 don't like I know that I care a lot about 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:39.560 my child, but. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.560 Like I really don't give a shit about yours. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.320 Other people's hats and kids are not interesting. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.160 I don't, I don't care. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:48.720 I don't disagree. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.200 That's how everyone is, though. It's like no one's ever 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.160 gonna think your kid or pet is as. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:54.920 Cute as you do. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.760 My question between the Housewives franchise, vander Pump and now 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.920 the this might be hard, but what was the most 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.440 difficult one to produce and why they've all. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.199 Been difficult in different ways. I would say where vander 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.199 Pump has been easier in some ways is you had 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.000 a group that was fully in and so everyone has 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.079 had their moments. It's like, you know, in your first 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.319 few seasons on the show, like like oh, bad day, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:27.120 She's fleeing to Utah and literally not picking up a 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.160 call from anyone. There's nothing we can do, and the 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.360 network would be like, what do you mean she's in Utah. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.000 She's in Utah. That's what I mean like it's physically 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:40.080 in Utah, so but you know, or like Stasse's New 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.160 York Adventure those things like, Right, So there was some 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.800 of that, but you still had a group that was 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.360 constantly generating story and was as game as anyone that 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.760 I've ever met, to tell it, So there's that Housewives. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.640 It always felt like the stakes were higher whether or 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.840 not they were, just was a group that is, like, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.559 you know, very serious about those things. And then I'm 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.160 trying to think about the Valley actually was a fairly 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.679 seamless production, and I think, you know, I didn't know 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.200 kind of what everyone's frame of mind would be for it, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.439 but but they were all pretty into it in game. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.360 And I think it also helped having Jax and Brittany 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.120 and Christen, so we had like three ringers in there, right. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.720 And then Janet is someone who's you know, she's never 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.720 really been at the forefront of vander Pump rules, but 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.960 she seems to know the drill. She's been friends with 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.720 all of us for quite some time, so it's like 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.880 she understands how this works totally. I just think it 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:39.160 would be the person that I feel like the most 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.360 for because I can't even imagine filming a show like 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.960 this and just I just given birth to not one, 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:45.680 but two babies. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.720 Oh my god, Nia, Okay, two babies. 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.080 She's got three kids under two that she just gave birth. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.920 I mean she yes, like they literally they were so 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.920 brand new. She's like one of the things I filmed. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.079 We were at Jackson, Brits. But she's in a room 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.640 like both babies on the tit and I'm like that, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.360 You're a superhero, Like, right, guys, I don't know how 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.320 she did it. I think the Valley is going to 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.280 be absolutely spectacular. And I told Brittany, you must have 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.319 a watch party every single week. And I can't wait 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.320 to get on social media and talk about how I 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.240 feel about Jack's Taylor in each episode. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.960 Oh, I've been a segment now, it'll probably be on 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:28.600 the podcast. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.640 By the way, what a ride that's going to be 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:35.040 because he is just the first episode. Like, your observations 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.480 are going to be all over the place about him 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:37.680 because it's really fun. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.640 Well, Alex, I can't wait because before we started, there 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.720 was a time when Jacks and Kristen Dodie were no 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.520 longer a part of vander Pump and I would see 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.120 people talk about how evolved they are now and how 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.520 much they've changed, and I just can't wait for people 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:53.480 to see. 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.680 Where they are now and see people's take. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.720 We give them the full opportunity to show how evolve 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:00.160 they are. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:01.600 All right, Well, I can't and they've done it. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:02.840 They've done they have. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.360 I had a question about production and when when you're 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.440 going into it and like selecting a cast, how do 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:12.440 you go about that? 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:12.800 Oh? 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:18.000 Yeah, like do you because obviously Monica said that she. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:22.120 From he will apply. She was like, I applied for 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:22.680 this gig. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:23.800 So I was thinking, like. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.680 I was like, I haven't even thought about that side 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.200 of producing. Do you have people in mind that you've 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:32.960 seen or is it a kind of putting in a resume? 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.000 Well, I love that, you know, she acts like it's 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.200 a job at best Buy that is not like putting together. 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.920 The valley started with conversations I was having with Jack's 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.560 and so he and I went out to dinner and 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.360 we were just talking about what's going on in his 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.760 life now and who his friends are. And I quickly 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.360 settled on the idea of doing something about families or couples, right, 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:56.520 and then we kind of built it out from there. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.200 And so we put on tape pretty much everyone it's 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.200 in his close inner circle and kind of went from there. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.120 So everyone really knows each other, they're all invested in 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.560 each other, they all care, and we didn't want to, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.520 you know, add any gimmicks or try to fill out 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.280 the cast in a way that wasn't authentic. I think 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.360 other shows are a little different. So I think if 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.520 there's a show that is more of a construct and 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.400 it's not necessarily about a group, then you know, maybe 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.680 it's put together differently. But look, it's like when you 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:30.320 join Vanderpump, you know, you and James have been an 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.520 Ariana are the examples of additions to the group because 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.920 you guys were a part of the group and made 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.680 yourself matter to the group. And any time that we 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.080 ever just broad in someone random who had just worked 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.080 at SIRR a little bit, it didn't work. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:46.040 It never worked. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.520 It felt like you've been here for five minutes, where 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.080 when I joined it was like I'd been getting wasted 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:54.960 at SIR since I was eighteen. 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:56.240 You know what? 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.920 Right it was like, bit, what was your initial and 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.120 impressions of Lalla? 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:02.840 Did you have a thought of like this girl's not. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.280 Away I just thought, well, there's my pressure from casting 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.000 and then production. So from casting, I thought she was 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.320 a gem. I thought you were great because I was like, 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.440 who the fuck is this? So I thought you were 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.840 one of a kind. You were living in Stasse's bedroom 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.440 like that was weird, you know, So the whole thing 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.399 was great, Like we were all in on that and 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.080 I could not quite figure you out. And then in 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.800 production it was a different story because we had never 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.200 met anyone that I said who just was like, nope, 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:38.760 not doing it. So there was that, but you were 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.320 worth it. You were pain in the ass, but you 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:40.880 were worth it. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.200 I was gonna say, was less, so let's less. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.760 So I actually could I didn't really not anymore because 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.520 I think, I mean, you've just changed and matured so much, 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.480 and you just view it differently and you're grounded and 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.800 different things matter to you and you're much more secure, 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.439 so you're really not a pain in the ass at 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:01.840 this point. 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.640 At this point, like it feels like therapy. 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:09.960 Like before, when I see anybody, because I love reality TV, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.840 when I see anyone freaking out about something that may 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.160 come out, I'm like, girl, just let it come out. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.239 And the next year, no one's gonna care and it's 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:18.920 gonna be a completely different storyline. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:20.480 Yeah, it is interesting. 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.480 You get to see all these personalities on these different shows. 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.840 Do you ever sort of look at these people and 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.679 think this person would be great doing a project with 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:32.480 this person? 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:33.800 Maybe I should do? 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.960 Do you ever all of the time? 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:36.359 Okay? 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.719 I mean I think it's really fun to sort of 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.760 mash things up. And I mean we've talked about, you know, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:47.280 certain potential partnerships. Yes, right, that because I just it. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.480 You get to know different people and sort of see 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:55.800 how there might be some synergenistic you know, combination between them, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.120 and so I think that all the time. Or sometimes 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.600 I'm jealous. Sometimes I think a look at a show 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.440 and think, well, we really could use her over here. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.200 It's too bad it can't make, you know, like a trade. 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:06.080 I love that. 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.000 Do you ever look at projects and you're like, damn, 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.480 what I would have given to be the person that 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:13.199