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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Oh my freaking god, I cannot believe it. We are

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Speaker 2: back for season eleven. We're recapping shit.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna shit my pants. We have

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Speaker 1: Alex Basket as my guest today, our guest. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the casting couch, the legitimate one.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me casting couch. Are you nervous

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Speaker 3: a little bit? I have to say.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little starstruck because usually I talk to you

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Speaker 2: and we just like shoot the shit. But now you're

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Speaker 2: sitting here and I'm like, Okay, this is the creator

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Speaker 2: of all things that make me survive during like the

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Speaker 2: rough moments, like you are the person that created ohc

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Speaker 2: bh vander Pump. I mean, do you ever think, like,

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Speaker 2: holy shit, everything I touch turns to gold?

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Speaker 3: No, not at all, because I just always think that

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Speaker 3: everyday gold is going to turn and shit trying to

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Speaker 3: keep them going, and sometimes I just wonder how I'm

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Speaker 3: still here?

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Speaker 1: That makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very curious about how you got into producing.

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Speaker 2: Well, producing reality television. Was that always the goal or

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Speaker 2: were you like wanting to be in movies and scripted.

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Speaker 3: I used to joke that no one's goal was to

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Speaker 3: end up in reality you just did so totally and

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Speaker 3: it's changed obviously. I think that, you know, in the

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Speaker 3: pecking order of things, reality is much higher, and I

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Speaker 3: think things are blurred and blended now. But I got

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Speaker 3: into it as accidentally as anyone. I grew up in

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Speaker 3: high school. And that's when MTV was doing a lot

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Speaker 3: of cool shit, and I just loved it. I loved

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Speaker 3: it so much that I went off to law school.

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Speaker 3: So I designed that maybe I wanted to be an

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Speaker 3: and firms that I've worked for over the summers, and

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Speaker 3: I thought, I don't want one thing that you have, Like,

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Speaker 3: I'm very bored by this. So I called up Doug

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Speaker 3: all these years ago? And you thought that I was

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Speaker 3: Do you have a place for me, and he hired me,

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Speaker 3: and so that was my only job for many years

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, really amazing.

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Speaker 4: What did you work on specific Were you like working

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Speaker 3: No, you know, I was working in development, but I

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Speaker 3: a conversation across the board, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right, like, no matter what your background was, where you

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Speaker 2: was to the point where you couldn't not acknowledge that

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Speaker 2: So when Scanaval happened and we decided to go into

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought, contrary to what certain people in certain

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Speaker 4: Wow, wild really And you think that will never change

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Speaker 3: It could, And I mean, you know other things that

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, because if you think about it now, now

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Speaker 2: have said right that no matter whether whether Scandabal happened

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Speaker 1: Now I know that we're a selfish group.

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Speaker 2: From what it looks like, for the first time ever,

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Speaker 1: Everyone is living up their own ass.

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Speaker 2: Season eleven, it's it's gonna be a wild season to watch.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's good?

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Speaker 3: there's a questions all the time, like you know, well,

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Speaker 3: we sort of take people for where they are. But

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Speaker 3: I think it's fascinating. I think that it's still really

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Speaker 3: interesting to see the dynamics. Interestingly, even with Arianna and Tom,

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Speaker 3: So I think people are going to enjoy seeing that documented.

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Speaker 3: The Is that a storyline for them? Also?

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Speaker 5: That's what I thought looking down, Did they live together

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: You couldn't get them to agree on anything.

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Speaker 5: But if I was seriously just getting the hell out, yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, but that's what the season, that's we'll see, right,

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Speaker 2: You're going to see it all play out. Because there's

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Speaker 2: I can't get down with what you're saying because of

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Speaker 1: By the way, Easton does not watch reality TV.

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Speaker 3: I have to start.

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Speaker 2: I just told him about the episode where I told

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Speaker 1: I have something to go home and watch. They has

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Speaker 5: It's so different from me, Like I've never watched it,

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Speaker 5: even when like your first season when I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Your sister just do all this shit, and then you.

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Speaker 5: See her like making out with James, and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I can't know it it is. It's just so different

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Speaker 5: I can do the Valley. It's just like when you're

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Speaker 1: It's like, h the Valley. I can't wait for.

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Speaker 2: And you did say if there wasn't so much momentum,

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Speaker 4: And what is the main difference between py U seeing

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Speaker 3: Good question. Okay, so here's my teas. We start the

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Speaker 3: so you have Jax joining Boys Night, which is with

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Speaker 3: choice words for sand of fal Okay and it's really fun.

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Speaker 3: And then we see Jacks drive over the hill and

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Speaker 3: go into the valley. So do I it is it's

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course. I mean, this is like when it's

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Speaker 2: No, but it's like remembering being in Utah and watching

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Speaker 2: new show called vander Pump Rules. Remember you you did

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Speaker 2: a similar crosshow so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we did. Yeah, I mean in that one.

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Speaker 3: It's funny. I almost hate to invoke that one because

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Speaker 3: I'd love to say that was my idea. It was not.

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Speaker 3: It was someone else's and then I know helped put

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Speaker 3: it into motion, right, But you know, this still will

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Speaker 3: being in the next one. And I think where the

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Speaker 3: Valley is very different is it's a different phase in life,

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Speaker 3: and the idea is adulting. And it's also that this

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Speaker 3: And so that's the fun of it to me, is

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Speaker 3: that Jax is still.

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Speaker 2: Jacks Sis will never not be anything kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is. And so you know, Jack's

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Speaker 4: That's how everyone is, though. It's like no one's ever

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Speaker 3: Been difficult in different ways. I would say where vander

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Speaker 2: And then Janet is someone who's you know, she's never

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Speaker 2: Well, Alex, I can't wait because before we started, there

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Speaker 1: Where they are now and see people's take.

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Speaker 3: We give them the full opportunity to show how evolve

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, I can't and they've done it.

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Speaker 2: It felt like you've been here for five minutes, where

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Speaker 2: one for the team and only focus on the tits

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00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 2: and tummy. Yes, you know exactly, Like, and why are

443
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: you complaining about it?

444
00:20:59,359 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 1: Terror?

445
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: Terry's the best, so I good naturedly give him shit.

446
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 3: And then Paul's complaint during at that point on the

447
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 3: show too, was Paul all of a sudden wanted it

448
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 3: was like a car service complaint. He wanted like a

449
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 3: car service to go like two hundred feet, and so

450
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: I ran into him. Was literally we were shooting the

451
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: after show, and he wanted car service and he's like

452
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 3: he lived, like, you know, like two miles from there

453
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 3: or something. So I ran into him at a party

454
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: and I said, hey, Paul, how'd you get here tonight?

455
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 3: And this is fun of like a group of people,

456
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: and he's like, I drove, I go, so you do drive?

457
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 3: I know?

458
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, now that is a devo good Wait, so

459
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 2: did did he get car service?

460
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: Though?

461
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 3: He like he let He was like, you hurt my feelings,

462
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 3: but you made your point. So I'm like, all right,

463
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 3: that's a when.

464
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: You have a way of doing that hurting feelings. Yeah, no,

465
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: of like making good points. Yeah no, I'm making a

466
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: good points. I have a question for you.

467
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, does it ever get hard when you start developing

468
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: like real connections with people on these shows that you

469
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 2: are creating and producing. You they call you to vent,

470
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: you take an interest in their life. You become a confidant,

471
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 2: but you know that you still have to tell their story.

472
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: Does it ever get sticky where you're like, God, I

473
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: really wish that I was not as close to this person.

474
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can be really hard because they're people that

475
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 3: I care about, and so I know that telling the

476
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 3: story is going to impact their lives. But at the

477
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: same time, that's the job, and you know, they sort

478
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 3: of know that that's the show that they're on. But

479
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: it does feel tough. I think that because of the

480
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 3: depth of the relationships, they understand that it isn't personal.

481
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: And I also don't do anything that is gratuitous, So

482
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: there's always the story that we could tell, right, And

483
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: it's like you could make anything, you know, a thousand

484
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 3: times worse. There's things that for the sake of discretion

485
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 3: that you don't include. But you know the deal is.

486
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 3: You know, look, if you sign up for it, then

487
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: you know those things are open and are discussed, and

488
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: you know, I can't make that go away, but it does.

489
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 3: I mean there are times when I've thought, you know,

490
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: maybe I need to take a break from doing it

491
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: because it's because it's hard, right, you know, And again

492
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 3: you're all too well aware that these are real people

493
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: and they really have to live with it. I also,

494
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: on the other hand, have enough perspective to know everything

495
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: passes and so the things that in the moment feel

496
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: like you know, the end of your life are not

497
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: and you know time goes on, so I'm aware of

498
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: that too, but but it's really hard. It weighs on me.

499
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: It does.

500
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering that because I know that you

501
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: and Kyle Richards are very close, and you know, I

502
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 2: just I can't imagine having something like a twenty seven

503
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 2: year marriage that's been put under a microscope. Children are involved,

504
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: like you had such a picture perfect life, and then

505
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: this unfolds on television, and I think that was the

506
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: first time that I was like, damn, I wonder if

507
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: that ever kind of fucks with Alex.

508
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one was really hard to see because they're

509
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: both great people and they have had a great marriage. Yeah,

510
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: so it's not the you know, proverbial housewife. Oh okay,

511
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: I saw that coming, and maybe everybody is better off

512
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 3: for it. Right, So that was really really tough to experience,

513
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: and you know, you want to, on the one hand,

514
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: be there for her as a human being, but also

515
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: you have to tell a story too, right.

516
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: I find when I get because you do become extremely

517
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: close with producers, like I find that they become like

518
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: my friends but also kind of like family members because

519
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: you talk to them, you know that you're telling a story,

520
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: and in order for you to tell the story properly,

521
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: you need to know exactly where my head's at, so

522
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: I find it. There's some people that are new and

523
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: they're like, don't tell producers anything, and it's like, well,

524
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: then you're you. If you don't want any control over

525
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: your narrative, do that. Otherwise pick up the phone. Because

526
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: there are many times where I could be saying something

527
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: and a producer says to me, this is how I

528
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: took it, and I'm like, hold up, no, we got

529
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: to rewind.

530
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: This is where my head's at in there.

531
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: Go great, let's let's tell that story because it's the

532
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: true story.

533
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: You're so right, and it's counterintuitive. So you tend to

534
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: think that if you withhold and control information that you

535
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: control the story, and it isn't true. And look the

536
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 3: case study for that is Arianna and scandabal Yeah, so

537
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: she found Sandival's phone or she she whatever, she you know,

538
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: saw what she did on scan on Sandoval's phone. And

539
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 3: then I was called in Scandabalio these days. And then

540
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: and then she let production knowe right away, and she

541
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: told that story, and I would say, pretty powerfully, so.

542
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: She said, I called production immediately because I knew that

543
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 2: he would try to get me to not talk about it,

544
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: not tell them. We were going to concoct something, and

545
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: because it was years of us in a relationship together,

546
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: he probably could have got me to change my mind.

547
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: And I got chills when I heard that. I was like, damn,

548
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: it's just wild that. That's what I mean, Like the

549
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: production team becomes your family. The first person you call.

550
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: By the way, there's a lot of things that have

551
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: happened in my life. Were the first person I call

552
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: obviously my mama, but then I'm calling a producer?

553
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, immediately.

554
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 4: Was there any world in which you were not picking

555
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: cameras back up for that?

556
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: No?

557
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: Or was it you had no?

558
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: I mean, we were going to do that, but we

559
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: and it just was not even a question we had.

560
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: There were a couple of contributors to the decision who

561
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: thought we should just hold until the reunion, and we

562
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 3: thought that was asenine, like, no, We're going in right now.

563
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: I still get chills thinking about it.

564
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, having Jeremiah be like, you're not

565
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: allowed to leave LA because we're picking up cameras like

566
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow right, Damn damn. What do you think about everyone

567
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: saying like I think it's so so again. I watch

568
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: a lot of reality TV. Kyle stepping into her interview

569
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: with like the red cutout top on We've got Southern

570
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: charm people who I think her name's Olivia. It is

571
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Olivia shows up in like her kind of revenge dress

572
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: and now no one, not a soul am Bravo can

573
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: go through something like being done dirty by a man.

574
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: No one can have that happen and then wear red

575
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: with cutouts or they're immediately labeled Ariana. Yeah, is that

576
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: the craziest shit to watch?

577
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: Alex so funny.

578
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: Everyone's like Mauricio and Kyle planned list have a scan

579
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: of all moment. I'm like, yes, the couple that's been

580
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 2: together for twenty seven years wanted a scan a scandal

581
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: all moment.

582
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they were thinking. So that what she

583
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: could continue on the show. I mean think she's you know.

584
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: But Kyle's been the glue from the very beginning. Erica

585
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: Jane said it. I think it was either two reunions

586
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: ago a year ago where she's like she is the

587
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: queen of the group, she's the glue to all of us,

588
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: and I feel like that it's very true.

589
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: Well, you know, obviously she's been around since the beginning.

590
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: The show is you know important she's been great for

591
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: the show, and she does hold it all together. She

592
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: just is in some ways the ultimate real housewife, you know,

593
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: she she just gets it, and she does it in

594
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: a way too that doesn't compromise herself. So she knows

595
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: what she's doing, wants to make a show, but stands

596
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: behind what she's done as well, right, And I think

597
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: it's great. I think, you know, she's challenging the perception

598
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: of her right now because she just is in a

599
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: different place than she was, and so I think that's

600
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: throwing people off a lot. But she's just, you know,

601
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: the bedrock of that show. By the way.

602
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't think she's ever looked better.

603
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: I find her attitude to be very sexy and inspiring

604
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: and I dig her.

605
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: Oh she doesn't give a shit anymore too. I mean

606
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: that's kind of.

607
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: The not at all fun of it, because you know

608
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: there were many times where like she didn't want she

609
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: didn't like confrontation. Yeah, kind of like clammed up a bit.

610
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Now she's like, you're a fucking bitch right now. Stop

611
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, I'm a little wet you.

612
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: No, she's activated.

613
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: She's activated.

614
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: So we have that reunion on Friday, the.

615
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Reunion is on Friday.

616
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: Why you're obviously boots on the ground with that. Yeah,

617
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: I cannot wait.

618
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be good. It's so good.

619
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 2: When you think about all of the seasons that you

620
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: have under your belt, of all the shows, is there

621
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: one season of any of the shows that sticks out

622
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: in your mind going that was a freaking hard season, Like,

623
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that shit is done.

624
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: To me, it's either the strongest or the weakest seasons. Okay,

625
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: the weakest seasons sometimes, which is because it just doesn't

626
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: work right, I mean, and there are there are good

627
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: seasons and bad seasons.

628
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: So my overstepping by asking is there a season we

629
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: were like.

630
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: That was a really shitty season at show?

631
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: You know, look, I thought vander Pump season nine was

632
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 3: dogshit beyond.

633
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: I was like, we're not coming back.

634
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: I thought, I thought we're done. And that's why I've

635
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: said a bunch that to me, you know, we caught

636
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 3: this big scandal and we went right in and you know,

637
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: everyone sort of did what they did with it. But

638
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: to me, the accomplishment was being around for that to happen,

639
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: was still being around for a season ten and you

640
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: kind of ride it out, and you know, there's ebbs

641
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: and flows. So I think with Orange County, I thought

642
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: last season was really good. The season before was not.

643
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Was that the one with Noela?

644
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

645
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: Season sixteen, yeah that wasn't great.

646
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: Last season was great, really, but the one with Noela

647
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: without I don't think Vicky or Tamra made an appearance

648
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: at all, that was a tough one to watch.

649
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I should have watched it, but.

650
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: It just didn't come together. It didn't it didn't happen,

651
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: And so there's that. Beverly Hills has had some seasons too.

652
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: You do the best that you can with any of it,

653
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: but yeah, I think that it's really hard when it

654
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: doesn't all come together. And then sometimes it's really hard

655
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: when you're going through something that's just tough to manage

656
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: and tough to trudge through.

657
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 5: Are there seasons that you on any of the shows

658
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 5: that you've produced that you're like, that season you can

659
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 5: watch one through fifteen, or is there a season of

660
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 5: a show that you're like that was incredible or just through.

661
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: And through every episode was.

662
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: Incredible, like top to bottom, Yeah, it was unreal perfect.

663
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: Or if you could only watch one season of a

664
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 5: show you produced, what season.

665
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: Would that, Oh, I love that.

666
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I would say it tends to

667
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: be earlier seasons for me because I just have the

668
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: removal in the distance from them to just you know, yeah,

669
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: and probably rewrite them in my mind and everything is

670
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: perfect and I'm like, oh, this is when I was

671
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: coming of age and I started doing Yeah, totally. It's

672
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: just what we do. You know, like you look through

673
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: photos of yourself smiling, and you know you're not aware

674
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: of like the hour before you know, where you were

675
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: grounded by your parents or whatever. So I just that's

676
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 3: what I think. I think the early seasons of Beverly Hills.

677
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: I think there's a few great seasons of Fan or Pump,

678
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: but I still season one was fun just because I

679
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: knew we were onto something, you know, and it started

680
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: with the crossover and whatever. So there's that. And then

681
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: Orange County. Yeah, I mean I liked the last season

682
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: of Orange County because it was a renaissance and so

683
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: that was fun to me, and I thought we were

684
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: back from the dead, and that's always a really good

685
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: feeling like Okay, we've still got it.

686
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: That's how it felt. Yeah, as someone who's watched since

687
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: the beginning. But there is something like you said about

688
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,239
Speaker 2: OG seasons before anybody got injected and realized what they

689
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: were going to look like on camera, where you were.

690
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: Just like showing.

691
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: It felt like you were walking around with a tape

692
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: recorder on these people.

693
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: There is so the head current Programming from prof was Sherrylathini.

694
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: She was head for many years. Used to she's great,

695
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: she's brilliant woman, but is just savage and cutting in

696
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: what she says. And so I remember after the first

697
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: season of Beverly Hills, she's like, congratulations, it'll never be

698
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: that good again, Like, do.

699
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: You feel that way It's never been that good again.

700
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: I don't think that's true, because I think it's just different.

701
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: And I thought that season two was great for that

702
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: show too, But oh.

703
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: My god, yes, but.

704
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: I know it show. I know what she means, and

705
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: it was it's your point to where something changes when

706
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: people watch themselves and when other people comment on them,

707
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: and you cannot deny that social media has an impact

708
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: on people, and there's a self awareness that you know,

709
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: maybe doesn't exist for season one, and maybe we can't

710
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: even get to that these days anyway, because everyone knows

711
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: how the shows are made or think they do anyway,

712
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: or thinks that they've cracked the code. So there's there's

713
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: self conscious anyway. But by the way, I found that

714
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: refreshing with the Valley. I actually didn't think that there

715
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: was a ton of image crafting. I thought that people

716
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: showed up as who they were and things happened.

717
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: So well, speaking of social media, do you, let's be

718
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: honest here, do you guys take what the fans say

719
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: into account when filming these shows?

720
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: When I think we apply the appropriate discount factors. So

721
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say that we're not aware of it,

722
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: but I will say that social media is a measure

723
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: of intensity more than anything. But it isn't. It doesn't

724
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: line up with any research that you would do, any

725
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 3: any rigorous research because it tends to be the same

726
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 3: people on social media who are heated time and again,

727
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: and it does not reflect it. It's a really small

728
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: and very biased sample size.

729
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: Okay, so how do you decide if there's a new

730
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: cast member that comes into the mix. How do you

731
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: decide if that person is coming back or if they're not.

732
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: Because someone could think.

733
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: They did great, but overall, like, how do you measure

734
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: if they did great.

735
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: It's hard and it is not a science. And I

736
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: always think that it's a mistake to try to turn

737
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: something that is creative and that is, you know, sort

738
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: of floating an amorphous into something that it isn't. And

739
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: so it's a series of conversations. So it'll be the

740
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: producers and the network and you arrive at some kind

741
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: of consensus, and you know, not everyone may be pleased

742
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: with it, but it's an analysis based on what you

743
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: think of that specific person, what they're fit is within

744
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: the group, where you think you can go with them.

745
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: It's all of those things. It's much more qualitative than quantitative.

746
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: Do you find that a lot of these new housewives

747
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: that are being cast come in and they see what

748
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: they could be making.

749
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: On the show?

750
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: Like do you find that sometimes you hit a dead

751
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: end where it's like this person would have been great,

752
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: but they're coming in here asking for the sun stars

753
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: in the moon and they gotta go.

754
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we lead or I lead a lot

755
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: of conversations by telling people like, you know, congratulations, I

756
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: have good news. We want you on the show. Now

757
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: we're about to insult you. Yeah, so you know you

758
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: should be This is what it is and you know,

759
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: this is the economics of this business and you have

760
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 3: to accept that. And also it sounds right, but it's

761
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: the truth. You're not signing up for the show just

762
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: to make money from the show's it's really what does

763
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 3: this do for you on the whole? What is your

764
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: plan you know, to use this. So we have all

765
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 3: of those conversations, but I do think that people sometimes

766
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: are not realistic about it. And I've seen people talk

767
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: themselves out of, you know, opportunities that would have been great,

768
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: and then circle back to us, you know, a year

769
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: later and say now I'm ready, Like, well, now we're

770
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: not right.

771
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: It's like, well, how we've moved on for me? We

772
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: don't care. You spent one season? What about shows?

773
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: Let's talk about shows you do not produce. Do you

774
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: see any maybe some of the Housewise franchise, maybe Summer

775
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: House that you're like, I would have killed it or

776
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 4: I would have done this differently.

777
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 3: It's the cheapest thing to do. Yes, I do. Okay,

778
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: So because you're not you know, I'm aware that people

779
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: are doing the same thing to the shows that I'm on,

780
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: but that's kind of it's hard not to do that,

781
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 3: and it's hard as a producer not to watch, especially

782
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: if it's this genre and and just you know, think

783
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: that you can extrapolate what the circumstances are and that

784
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: you might have handled it differently. But at the same time,

785
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: there are plenty of shows that I watch and I

786
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: marvel at what other producers have done with it and think,

787
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: you know, thank god, I'm just watching this and I

788
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: didn't have to make it.

789
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, do you have a specific you have a

790
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: specific show, whether or not it's like Real Housewives of

791
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: Miami or like that.

792
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: You're like, I could have killed it. I could have

793
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: done well fewer in in the Bravo universe.

794
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because you kind of think in any of

795
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: those shows you think, you know, you could do, but

796
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 3: other people could do the shows that I do as well. Right,

797
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: it's kind of the same formula exactly, and they're just

798
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: you know, they're different. There's different dynamics, the relationships matter.

799
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: But there's you know, people that do that. To me.

800
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: It's things that I just that I've never done before,

801
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: or like for example, if you guys watch on bitconned

802
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: on Netflix.

803
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: No, so it's.

804
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: Great, it's just a it's a cryptocurrency scam show. But

805
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: it just is really stylishly done, and I just thought

806
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: everything I've.

807
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 2: Heard of this, yeah, yeah, because you have to remember

808
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: shows on Bravo, no matter what production company is being used,

809
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: you have to send the cut over to Bravo and

810
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: they make their notes.

811
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: So in a sense, when you watch there, they're all the.

812
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Vibe is the same throughout no matter what, which is

813
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 2: why people get so addicted. That's why we have things

814
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: like BRAVOCN because you just become a fan of it.

815
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: All right, You're watching the same game, inserting different players

816
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: that are all fucking savage and awesome.

817
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: You know.

818
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it gives me chill talking about it.

819
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: Question for you before I let you go, do you

820
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: think we would ever?

821
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: We as if I have a say, do you think

822
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: you guys would ever if Rachel Raquel picked up the

823
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: phone and said, I really think I messed up and

824
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: I'd like to be back on the show if you'll

825
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 2: have me with everything that you know going behind the scenes.

826
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: Number one, how do you feel if she were to

827
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: say that, would we bring her back in?

828
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: I I don't know. I mean, I hesitate to say never,

829
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: but I just it's such a far fetched scenario that

830
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 3: I would say, right now, we're good where we are,

831
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: and I hope she's good where she is.

832
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: I love that answer.

833
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: So Alex, we do an ach and relief at the

834
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: end of every episode. Just you'll start us off, so

835
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: Alex knows what this means.

836
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: Okay, So this is the day after the vander Pump

837
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: Rules Season eleven premiere.

838
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: So I can say this.

839
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: My relief is your vulnerability in this premiere episode.

840
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: I was so proud of you.

841
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what the viewers have said at this point,

842
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: but I'm excited to see. I know you're nervous, but

843
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: I think it's a side of you that is very

844
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: refreshing to you.

845
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: That's my relief.

846
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: My ache is that we still have now another week

847
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: pretty much for season or for episode two, because it

848
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: was such a good season eleven premiere episode.

849
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: Love it a relief of the week.

850
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 5: My ache is going to be the Miami SA Aquarium again.

851
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: I love it. Tell us out out there.

852
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: I know there was another video that came out January

853
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 5: of this year, twenty twenty four. Okay, and there's more

854
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 5: dolphins in it. There's three and one that I see.

855
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 5: It's a video. If you would like to watch you know.

856
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: What, I bet the wall risks Whisper is all over

857
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: that shit.

858
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: He shout out for him.

859
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, they've had one hundred and twenty dolphins die

860
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 5: in this seaquarium, so let's just keep it up and

861
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 5: keep out.

862
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: In them despicable. What's your relief.

863
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 5: My relief is going to be outing them, So I'm.

864
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: Having a platform to out that. Yes, so that's what

865
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: that's my relief.

866
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 5: So let's go get them Easton.

867
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: I love that for you.

868
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: Thank you.

869
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 2: My ache is going to be that. I really thought

870
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: that it was going to be more like five or six.

871
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: I guess I can wait until VPR episode eight for

872
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: the Valley to come out. That's my ache. My relief

873
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: is knowing that it's coming out because I got in

874
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: trouble for talk talking about it on my Amazon Live.

875
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Alex might not know this.

876
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bravo hit me up, not me personally, they hit

877
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: a member of my team up and they said, please

878
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: tell her to shut the fuck up and stop talking.

879
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: About the Valley. I'm just so excited about it.

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Speaker 2: You like people talking about it, well, not when it's

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Speaker 2: not announced yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah sure, I mean that was like.

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Speaker 5: A couple of days before the announcement huh more of.

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Speaker 1: Like a couple of months. But it's okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: you shit the bed.

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Speaker 3: I was off, Yeah, I mean I don't mind people

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Speaker 3: talking about anything. And I think that also was a

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Speaker 3: badly kept secret anyway, right, I mean, there's no way

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Speaker 3: that people wouldn't know that we were shooting that show.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, how am I the one to

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Speaker 2: out this when you have people like Jack say, you're

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Speaker 2: telling me?

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Speaker 1: Neither of them have spilled the beans on it. Jax

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Speaker 1: was telling me us about it before I even started filming.

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Speaker 5: He was like, yeah, we're going to start it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, nolexcitedn't think it was happening. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I really didn't need Jack.

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Speaker 3: Jax was coming out. I think you even sent me

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Speaker 3: a note. You're like, hey, is this thing real?

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Speaker 2: I was like, because, like Jack's I don't care if

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Speaker 2: he lives in his own world, but I'm concerned about

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Speaker 2: what he tells Brittany, and so like, if this is

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Speaker 2: not real, I need to sit Brittany down and be like, girl,

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Speaker 2: we got to move on from the conversation.

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Speaker 3: So my ach is the Beverly Hills reunion. At the

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Speaker 3: end of this week because I just want to be

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Speaker 3: done with that, okay. And then my relief and it

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Speaker 3: pertains to the first episode of VPR is that Tom

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Speaker 3: finally came back from New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that was annoying right anyway, I love it, Alex.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on my podcast, My Loves,

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Speaker 2: I love you all. Thank you for listening to another

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Speaker 2: episode of the Give Them All a Podcast. Remember, do

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Speaker 2: animals in captivities, spay in new to your pets, adopt,

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Speaker 2: don't shop.

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Speaker 1: I love you and I'll catch you next week.