WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Joy Reid

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Quest Love Supreme.

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<v Speaker 2>Family just wanted to give you a heads up that

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<v Speaker 2>the audio quality of this episode at times may not

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<v Speaker 2>be the stand that you are used to, but bear

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<v Speaker 2>with us. We thought this sit down with joy Read

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<v Speaker 2>was an important listen considering the current climate.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 4>Robert watching Bargin.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I've been watching this.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, I'm doing this or all damn? Why you always

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<v Speaker 6>got to ruin show Man?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean it's it's cool, like I like it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's I liked it better than that other show that.

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<v Speaker 3>You jump You jumped the gun a little too soon.

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<v Speaker 6>I all right, I get it. I know Jordan's Hill

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<v Speaker 6>Productions made us work for it.

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<v Speaker 7>And one day no, no, no, I hope one day

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<v Speaker 7>that he does something and it just the point is there, Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I have to commit to watching Lovecraft Country two to

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<v Speaker 7>three times every episode to catch Easter eggs.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't get.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's too many. It's too many other shows that

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<v Speaker 5>I can watch once. Intead are great and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, because my wife, my wife, she loves Lovecraft

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<v Speaker 5>like she watches it. No, it's important and I will

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<v Speaker 5>watch it sometimes with her, and I'll be like, but

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<v Speaker 5>like I but like I been like, I'll be in

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<v Speaker 5>another room and it's just like I hear just trap

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<v Speaker 5>music and then I look at the screen and it's

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<v Speaker 5>a fucking word wolf for some ship.

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<v Speaker 3>What the fuck is this? There's a lot of ship

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<v Speaker 3>joint Hello, Hello, how you doing? Welcome to myself Supreme.

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<v Speaker 3>This is literally how we just start episodes. We just

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<v Speaker 3>jumping with Can we ask.

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<v Speaker 4>Her real quick?

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<v Speaker 6>Don't love trap music?

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<v Speaker 3>Wolve?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go on love Craft? Yeah or day? Are you

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<v Speaker 6>in it or not in it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it, but it traumatizes me.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, I can only watch so much of like the

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<v Speaker 8>abuse of black people in history entertainment before I start

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<v Speaker 8>to really just start to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>My mind a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>So I watched The Payoff The Payoffice, episode seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It works in the end.

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<v Speaker 8>I stayed with it because first of all, the Nina

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<v Speaker 8>Simone tracks are fire, the music is fire, and it

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<v Speaker 8>pays off in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot, it's a lot lot. The important the important thing

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<v Speaker 3>about it, once I did the research was that I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know the history. Okay, so I knew the history

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<v Speaker 3>of how modern comedy started in America, which starts with

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<v Speaker 3>minstrel entertainment making fun of slaves and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the black face, we know that I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize that the slave was also or the

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<v Speaker 3>freed slave was actually the impetus for the modern horror flick,

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<v Speaker 3>like basically the rising down the album cover Fonte, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was the whole day, was HB.

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<v Speaker 6>Love Right? HB. Lovecraft?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh started writing fiction about how freed slaves were going

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<v Speaker 3>to destroy UH plantations and get revenge once they were freed,

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<v Speaker 3>and thus that's the.

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<v Speaker 6>Birth of the horror genre.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was based on black people being the Boogeyman

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<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff. So which makes you.

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<v Speaker 2>Show the ultimate buck you because them casting all these

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<v Speaker 2>black people and making this a black story and remix

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<v Speaker 2>it is like love Craft, No, white.

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<v Speaker 3>People the real they're the real horror people.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's it's it's it's the real. That's that's how

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<v Speaker 6>we get into it. Ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're just joining us right now, Uh, I insisted,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there were there was a way that would Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there used to be a traditional way that we opened

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<v Speaker 3>the show. But then you know now that we're in COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>I call this the COVID Open, not the Cold Open.

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<v Speaker 3>So we just decided to not have an official intro

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<v Speaker 3>and just like faded in, let you eavesdrop on what

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're talking about love Craft.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course it would be remiss if I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>say that our guest today. You know, personally I look

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<v Speaker 3>for there's there's very few people that I look for

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<v Speaker 3>to be the voice of reason and the voice of calm,

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<v Speaker 3>especially how we are now, the way that we can

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<v Speaker 3>tumee our news or some people are traumatized, where I'm

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<v Speaker 3>kind of traumatized by it now, so I don't watch

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<v Speaker 3>it twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 6>There's only a few names.

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<v Speaker 3>That I trust to deliver the facts that I need

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<v Speaker 3>to know what's going on, and today's guest is a

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<v Speaker 3>prime example of that. I've been watching am Joy and

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<v Speaker 3>of course the readout. She's my thirty rock mate. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you refer to that building as thirty rock? Are the

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<v Speaker 3>only one that calls it thirty Rocks? I call it

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<v Speaker 3>thirty rock YEP, Okay, fine, yeah, it's it's it's my

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<v Speaker 3>trusted source for information. Of course, when this airs today,

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<v Speaker 3>this will be the day after the election, so we

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<v Speaker 3>have no clue what's going on. We got burnt the

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<v Speaker 3>last on This happened because you know these sort of

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, we sorted we it was a celebration

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<v Speaker 3>party and then mid episode was like to read yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so we don't know what the results are as of

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<v Speaker 3>this recording. So you know this this was done a

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<v Speaker 3>week before. But ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to Quest

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<v Speaker 3>Love supremeum Joy Reid. You know, and I also want

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<v Speaker 3>to let you know that this is probably more of

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<v Speaker 3>a lighthearted interview about your life, not like I know you're.

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<v Speaker 6>Tired of or are we going to be okay?

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<v Speaker 3>I know everyone's asking you, can you tell us something

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<v Speaker 3>that you know and.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't know? So how are you today?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, Quest, It's so good to be here with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm a big fan. Can I tell my

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<v Speaker 1>quest Love story real quick?

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<v Speaker 6>Least know you have one?

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody has one.

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<v Speaker 8>So the first time I met you, Quest, I actually

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<v Speaker 8>just got in an elevator with you at thirty Rock

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<v Speaker 8>and I was like, I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Myself, Oh my god, okay, Quest of honest, how am

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna act cool? I gotta act like normal, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say anything crazy, so I must have been.

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<v Speaker 8>My face must have been like, like, I look like

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<v Speaker 8>a crazy person, probably because you just turned me and

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<v Speaker 8>you said hello.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so you're you're.

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<v Speaker 8>One thing I love is when you meet somebody that is,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, famous, they are just as cool as they seem.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would give you that.

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<v Speaker 8>My students met you once you came out of your

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<v Speaker 8>you know, studio, and everything sahi to them.

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<v Speaker 1>So you cool?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember, yeah. I Actually, you know what's weird

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<v Speaker 3>is Uh. I would often trail you, either in the

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<v Speaker 3>cafeteria or like I didn't. I didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>that person like Joy or whatever, because oftentimes when I

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<v Speaker 3>see uh, like Brian Williams, we're kind of BFFs.

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<v Speaker 6>But when someone yells's name Brian, he never looks.

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<v Speaker 3>So usually when when news pundits and and and reporters

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<v Speaker 3>are in the hallways of thirty Rock, they never respond

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<v Speaker 3>to their name because they think that it's like a

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<v Speaker 3>fan or even something more dangerous closer to Rupert Pumpkin

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<v Speaker 3>from the King of Comedy following them. So basically, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to be the guy like Joy it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you just walk on by itself. Yes, I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen you way before that, but that's the first time

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<v Speaker 3>that you saw me and seeing you and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I decide to, you know, to to break the ice.

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<v Speaker 1>There has anyone ever seen me over there? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I noticed this.

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<v Speaker 3>This new COVID opening doesn't include introducing the team. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>forgive me, forgive me, you know what. I well, you're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to jump in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, okay, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>By now three years that we know that laya with

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<v Speaker 3>her Oh nice, I look at her like you. It's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of well, I thought it was braids because oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's and we have a unpaid bill.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, you speak.

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<v Speaker 5>Radio, so I gotta go with voices already high.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, how you doing? And uh fan tickeolo in North

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina right now? But up you were telling me you

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<v Speaker 3>voted through a driving or drive through.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, we went, me and my wife who

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<v Speaker 5>went early voting the first day, which was the fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 5>and when we pull up to our poll in place,

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<v Speaker 5>there was a long line of cars and we thought

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<v Speaker 5>that was the voting line, but that was really the

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<v Speaker 5>line for just like the drive through, so like if

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<v Speaker 5>you had health problems or like you were super elderly

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<v Speaker 5>and couldn't stand in line, they were just you could

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<v Speaker 5>drive through and they give you the ballots and do

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<v Speaker 5>chick you in and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>So that line was kind of long.

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<v Speaker 5>So then we drove around and we saw the real

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<v Speaker 5>like the line for just like regular and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably it don't took us for maybe like an hour.

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<v Speaker 5>It's probably like twenty people in line, which is the

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<v Speaker 5>most people I've been around since March. And we was

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, we went and massed up and it

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<v Speaker 5>was distanced and we did it and you know, it

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<v Speaker 5>was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It was on about the hours to change.

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<v Speaker 6>Good Sugar Sea the night.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I just want to say out of joy, that

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<v Speaker 9>was my whole reason for interrupting.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a first.

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<v Speaker 6>Joy.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we have you for limited time, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>so many questions I want to ask you, but just

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<v Speaker 3>for this particular election cycle on what you're going through now,

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<v Speaker 3>Like what is your average day, Like.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, the average day is long. I mean I

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<v Speaker 8>was doing a weekend show for four years and it's

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<v Speaker 8>a different kind of schedule. You know, we don't even

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<v Speaker 8>start planning the show until Thursday because since Trump came along, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Disrupts so much that we used to have a Wednesday plan.

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<v Speaker 8>He would mess that up, so we started planning on

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<v Speaker 8>Thursdays for Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's a grind, you know. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>do a day a day side daily show.

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<v Speaker 8>And I had forgotten, you know, I'm a little older

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<v Speaker 8>and doing it now.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>We do four meeting for show meetings a day by phone,

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes by zoom, and then in between it's like taking

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<v Speaker 8>a college course. You're trying to read everything. It's a

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<v Speaker 8>blizzard of information and he just won't stop, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I covered the Obama administration.

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<v Speaker 8>When I was at the cRIO and as an MSNBC analyst,

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<v Speaker 8>and Obama lets you rest every so often.

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<v Speaker 1>He would speak during my day side show. He's like, Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, man, you know, because he didn't do the

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<v Speaker 1>big ethics speaker. Every time you come out and do

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<v Speaker 1>a speak and go away and live his life and

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<v Speaker 1>be president. This guy won't let you stop looking at him.

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<v Speaker 6>SHO.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my team. We make it fun and we

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<v Speaker 1>try to bring a little levity to it.

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<v Speaker 8>We bring as much as we can for us to

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<v Speaker 8>a traumatize public and we have fun together. But I

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<v Speaker 8>have to admit it's a different level of exhaustion.

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<v Speaker 3>So is it to the place where, like, do you

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<v Speaker 3>personally feel comfortable? I know that, you know, for people

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<v Speaker 3>that don't know how television shows work, I mean there

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<v Speaker 3>are assistants, there are researchers, there are people that can

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<v Speaker 3>sort of just give you the quick version of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you yourself feel comfortable with just looking away for

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<v Speaker 3>like two seconds or do you feel that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to like immerse yourself in absolute everything to get all

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<v Speaker 3>the information, go on social media, deep dive and all

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<v Speaker 3>these things, and do your own research so that you

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<v Speaker 3>can be packed with Because the way that you interview

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<v Speaker 3>talking heads or pun intoor whatever, it's like, how I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see how you can have like rebuttals immediately ready

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<v Speaker 3>and these facts ready.

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<v Speaker 6>Like are there people feeding you in your ear?

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<v Speaker 8>Like?

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<v Speaker 6>How does that work?

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<v Speaker 1>So what we basically do is, you know, we start

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<v Speaker 1>off first meeting of the day.

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<v Speaker 8>We figure out, Okay, this is what we want to

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<v Speaker 8>talk about, and then I go through and pegment and

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<v Speaker 8>say this is the way I want to frame it,

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<v Speaker 8>and then the producers go off and they you know,

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<v Speaker 8>they write up the intro, so the intros are great producer, so.

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<v Speaker 1>They you know, we then I go back.

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<v Speaker 8>And I edited, and we make sure that you know,

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<v Speaker 8>it's in by voice, and then I feel over with it.

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<v Speaker 8>And so it's a real team effort to together, right,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, our show is people, right, It's not just

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<v Speaker 8>I just don't get out there just you know, information,

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<v Speaker 8>Like we have people that are backing me up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we we plan for every continue because I

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<v Speaker 1>like to just questions. I don't like to have question

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<v Speaker 1>I like to just you know, glow with questions. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that no matter where I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go, we have.

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<v Speaker 8>The backup to make sure it's factual, to make sure

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<v Speaker 8>that you know, we've got a story.

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<v Speaker 1>That backs it up or some data that backs it up.

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<v Speaker 1>So we kind of.

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<v Speaker 8>Think all the places that these questions could go, and

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<v Speaker 8>we've got like an element ready to go. So if

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<v Speaker 8>I say something about a rally, but like okay, we

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<v Speaker 8>have a sound bite of that that's ready.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a lot of the preparation is making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that no matter where we end up going in these

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with something to back it up.

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<v Speaker 8>Because we don't want to just give I just don't

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<v Speaker 8>I don't want to just get my opinion. I want

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<v Speaker 8>to make sure it's factual. So as far as how

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<v Speaker 8>much I immerse myself. I have described Donald Trump as

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<v Speaker 8>like having a toddler. Right, if you have a toddler,

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes you want to you know, have a little out call,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, little cocktail break, but you still have to

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<v Speaker 8>put the baby monitor on.

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<v Speaker 1>You still got to watch them. You can't just go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep, take a nap and let the toddler, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>home about the house. Right, we are like the baby box.

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like you do have to watch him all

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<v Speaker 8>the time because, you know, some of the stuff he

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<v Speaker 8>says it's just dumb, but some of the stuff is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, he will just make a pronouncement and change

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<v Speaker 8>you as policy and then we have to deal with it,

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<v Speaker 8>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes he's just riffing, but you just never know.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh So, in terms of fact checking, like who's on

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<v Speaker 3>standby it? Like is it just assumed that any statement

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<v Speaker 3>he says is going to need a fact check? Like

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<v Speaker 3>how's how's that database work? Like is there just a

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<v Speaker 3>machine that you instantly have? Whatever his stats are, what

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<v Speaker 3>he says, or.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, every producer, they're all remote, like this is the

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<v Speaker 8>COVID time is weird because it normally they'd all be

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<v Speaker 8>in the studio and they'd all be at a A

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<v Speaker 8>at a you know, at a MAC and they can

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<v Speaker 8>look up information all the ready. But now they're in

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<v Speaker 8>fourteen different cities, but they're still listening in on this

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<v Speaker 8>McCurdy machine where they can all hear it all. And

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<v Speaker 8>so anything that comes up we call for those facts

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<v Speaker 8>like then and there, because the producers of each of

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<v Speaker 8>the segments are always listening to the show and they're

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<v Speaker 8>prepared to like if I need something, they just bring

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<v Speaker 8>it up right away and they can get that printed

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<v Speaker 8>out and hand it to me. So we're always ready

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<v Speaker 8>to fact check this man, and we don't. We don't

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<v Speaker 8>play a lot of him. We don't honestly, we don't

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<v Speaker 8>play a lot of him. We try to minimize it

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<v Speaker 8>because I think people know what he says. There's no

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<v Speaker 8>point in playing it back because a lot of it

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<v Speaker 8>is just live.

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<v Speaker 2>So kind just ask you. You mentioned about like what's

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<v Speaker 2>your daylight at work, but like what's your day like?

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<v Speaker 2>Because when do you wake up your like somebody's whole

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<v Speaker 2>mother and wife. How does that work intertrying with the

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<v Speaker 2>dailiness of this.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and now because you know we're we're we're not

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<v Speaker 8>living in New York anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I unfortunately gave up New York because you know.

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<v Speaker 8>More affordable house. You know, we're in the DMV area. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>we're in the suburbs of DC. So all the kids

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<v Speaker 8>are living with us now because one loss to you know,

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<v Speaker 8>he was working as a usher on Broadway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's done.

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<v Speaker 8>We have one that's an artist that she's living there.

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<v Speaker 8>And then we have the youngest one is a college

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<v Speaker 8>junior going junior. So they're all in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one of the reasons. You know, a little

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<v Speaker 1>apartment in Harlem that was going to be a war

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<v Speaker 1>so we're like, we have moved. We got space.

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<v Speaker 8>So really the day is you know, and my husband

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<v Speaker 8>runs our production company, so we we did have a

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<v Speaker 8>lot going on in the house all the time. And

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<v Speaker 8>so I wake up in the morning, my husband and

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<v Speaker 8>I do a walk, you know, we try to get

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<v Speaker 8>that health walk in and that's at like seven seven,

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<v Speaker 8>seven thirty in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And then from the Monday through Friday, no.

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<v Speaker 8>Matter what, unless it's just unless it's really raining.

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<v Speaker 1>We did. We try to do it. I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I do it.

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<v Speaker 8>In Central Park, I try. We try to do it

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<v Speaker 8>every day. And then after that it's just call after

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<v Speaker 8>call after call.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the phone all day and that is.

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<v Speaker 5>Tiring because it's yeah, that sounds exhausting, exhausting.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm either replying to texts, replying to emails, or

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<v Speaker 8>on the phone the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're all in the house, but we don't really

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<v Speaker 1>see each other that much. We're all in our rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>And any moment, if something were to pop off, you

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<v Speaker 3>would have to in a moment's notice.

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<v Speaker 6>Just how often does that happen to you in a week?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it happened not that often. I mean Ruth

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<v Speaker 8>Bader Ginsburg was one. But so I the NBC has

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<v Speaker 8>built a whole studio in my basement.

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<v Speaker 1>So the studio is.

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<v Speaker 8>Just a matter of running down into the basement and

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<v Speaker 8>turning the whole machine on, the lights.

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<v Speaker 1>On, and just going. So that's good. It is bad

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<v Speaker 1>because now they know they have that there.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I'm watching a m Joy that's a green screen,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want.

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<v Speaker 8>To for the no, for the readout, it's Basically, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>sitting in a chair. In front of me are the cameras,

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<v Speaker 8>just like the cameras in the studio. Behind me is

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<v Speaker 8>a big screen TV and they can load the background.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the TV and it looks like a little studio.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks just like, Yeah, I thought you came back

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<v Speaker 3>to thirty one.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh, okay, she's back.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well tonight I was in there. I saw this

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<v Speaker 8>for this week and next week. I'm actually in working

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<v Speaker 8>out of thirty rock. I'm, you know, here in my hotel.

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<v Speaker 8>But normally the show, the five day a week show.

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<v Speaker 8>For the readout, we're in the basement.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's helped. It's helpful. He's in production. And then

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter she has to be the person that hands

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<v Speaker 1>me the scripts and like, so it's like a family operation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a family business. Yeah, are they union members or

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<v Speaker 3>not playing?

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, I'm like, maybe they should get a check.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I was going to say, yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to go too far, boss man.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was curious because you said the whole production

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I was doing research, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute. Jordan read went to Harvard and guy

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<v Speaker 2>a degree in film for documentaries and so there's then

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<v Speaker 2>there's a whole other aspect of life that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's a.

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<v Speaker 8>Lot because we produce some we do a podcast like

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<v Speaker 8>this one you know that we do also one Get

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<v Speaker 8>Through You.

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<v Speaker 1>So so we're doing our.

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<v Speaker 8>Podcast, which is what to Read or we like do books,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, because this is sort of my my kind

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<v Speaker 8>of downtime is to just interview.

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<v Speaker 1>People who written books. But I got to get you

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<v Speaker 1>on quest and I know how to get you for

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<v Speaker 1>your books.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, absolutely, But we.

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<v Speaker 1>Just talked to authors for that podcast.

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<v Speaker 8>And so we have other stuff we're trying to do too,

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<v Speaker 8>So it's trying to balance the work work with the

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<v Speaker 8>other stuff that we're doing. I have this other podcast

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<v Speaker 8>I'm doing for NBC Kamala Hair. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 8>my day is every hour is accounting for until I

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<v Speaker 8>finally go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So can I ask it? Do you feel like this

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<v Speaker 3>is your well? Not is this worth it? But do

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<v Speaker 3>you feel like this time is your your your Bernstein

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<v Speaker 3>Woodward movement like the water Well, I guess it's so

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<v Speaker 3>hard to find something tangible to yeah, get him on,

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<v Speaker 3>but do you is it an exciting feeling? Or is it,

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<v Speaker 3>like you, this isn't exactly what you signed up for,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, for a journalist, this is like a key.

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<v Speaker 3>This year will be spoken of the same way that

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty nine was spoken of, Like I have no

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<v Speaker 3>doubt that twenty twenty will probably be, if not the

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<v Speaker 3>the second most famous year in the United States when they,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, do retrospectives of what's happened. So like, for you,

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<v Speaker 3>is this the moment why you got into this in

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<v Speaker 3>the first place, or is this something else?

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't it is?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, look, Donald Trump is Andrew Johnson plus Woodrow

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<v Speaker 8>Wilson's failure on the nineteen seventeen pandemic, you know, plus

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<v Speaker 8>Andrew Jackson's dmons and you know, murderous thoughts toward Native

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<v Speaker 8>people and people who weren't white, you know, Andrew Johnson's

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<v Speaker 8>just criminality as a president, plus Nixon, Like this is

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<v Speaker 8>this dam is It's a multiplier of all the other

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<v Speaker 8>bad presidents because he's combined, you know, in competence, cruelty, criminality.

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<v Speaker 1>And corruption all together.

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<v Speaker 8>And each of those presidents had one aspect of what

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<v Speaker 8>Trump is. And then you throw on top of that

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<v Speaker 8>the fact that Donald Trump doesn't believe in the presidency

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<v Speaker 8>as it's always been constructed. He thinks he's the king.

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<v Speaker 8>He thinks king of the United States. We've never had

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<v Speaker 8>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, it's like Woodward and Bernstein, except Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>is like Gargantua. You know, he's not even a normal Nixon.

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<v Speaker 1>He made Trump make Nixon, you know, look like Charlie Brown.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's not even you can't even catch him because

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<v Speaker 8>he's doing a different horrible thing every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is Nixon on steroids.

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<v Speaker 8>So for journalists, you know, I did write a book

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<v Speaker 8>about him, and he's already done one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred and three.

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<v Speaker 8>Thousand bad things since then, since right, and it's like

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<v Speaker 8>so you can't keep up with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's gonna take a good few years after

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<v Speaker 8>he's gone for us to really compile all of this

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<v Speaker 8>and really understand it. And I do think it is

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<v Speaker 8>something that people are going to study because this is

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<v Speaker 8>the closest we ever came to not being a democracy again.

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<v Speaker 8>And I honestly believe that if Trump is re elected,

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<v Speaker 8>what I do for a living will be a lot

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<v Speaker 8>like what journalists in Bellar russ are doing or journalists

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<v Speaker 8>in Russia are doing, or journalists in Turkey are doing,

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<v Speaker 8>because we are then going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Dealing with an autocrat.

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<v Speaker 8>And I don't mean to make that sound as hyperbole,

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<v Speaker 8>because I don't mean it as hyperbably.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how curious.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're watching it like a lot's going to ride

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 3>on what happened yesterday, which we don't know the results.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll just remind people.

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<v Speaker 2>That and we probably won't write like what do you

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<v Speaker 2>that's an interesting question too, like when do you think

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:41.159
<v Speaker 2>this thing will be decided?

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<v Speaker 4>Regardless, Like I think it's a two week Well.

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<v Speaker 8>Here's my chance to say something great about my former

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 8>state of Florida. I mean, listen, Florida has embarrassed US

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 8>as a country for a really long time, and they've

0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.119
<v Speaker 8>had a rough time with elections. But this might be

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:03.120
<v Speaker 8>the year Florida actually saves America in times.

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Bo purple blue, purple blue.

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<v Speaker 8>However, Florida's a tough state to lose because listen, the

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:17.199
<v Speaker 8>reality is like angry mean grandparents all moved to Florida

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.159
<v Speaker 8>and the cool grandparents all moved to Vegas, right, So

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 8>that's how you know. That's why you know, no matter

0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 8>you fun granny is in Vegas like I'm gambling, you know,

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 8>the mean granny is that's Florida. So the problem is

0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:34.680
<v Speaker 8>Florida is very unreliable and the voters there are very

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.680
<v Speaker 8>unreliable and they don't turn out to vote unless literally.

0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Obama is on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 8>Obama with Biden on the ticket did win it twice,

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<v Speaker 8>so Biden has a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>But if Florida Florida.

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<v Speaker 8>The good thing about Florida is that Florida actually has

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<v Speaker 8>been doing early voting, early absentee voting for a long

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 8>time because Florida has so many senior citizens, the mailing

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 8>mailing ballots are a regular thing for them, so they

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.399
<v Speaker 8>will actually have a result on election. It's not going

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 8>to be like two thousand. We will actually probably know

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.639
<v Speaker 8>Florida early and so whether it goes to Trump or

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 8>whether it goes to Biden at least won't know. And

0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 8>actually that that's good for the country because we just

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 8>want to know the state that's going to be be

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 8>what Florida used to be. This year's Pennsylvania. If Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 8>is close, that's your lawsuit to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, wow, Ackerson was going on in Pennsylvania right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though Philadelphia. I can't even you can't even look

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 2>at Philadelphia for the example at all, because Pennsylvania is

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<v Speaker 2>red and Philadelphia is blue.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're going right now, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but you know, as of this speaking, uh you know,

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 3>my both my my sisters giving me updates, like you know,

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 3>there's stuff happening right outside of a window right now. Yeah,

0:23:56.600 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 3>and it's looking very reddish, you know, right well, Red

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 3>is coming there on the floor like ducking.

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 2>But Red is coming to town though, for this kind

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of activity, like Red lives for this activity.

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 4>Red been coming to town ever since they try to

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<v Speaker 4>take down these statues.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's true. And you know, Pennsylvania is like

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of states.

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<v Speaker 8>It is you know, Philadelphia surrounded by Alabama, right, And

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.119
<v Speaker 8>Ohio is like that, right, it's Cleveland surrounded by Alabama.

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:25.959
<v Speaker 1>And most states are like that.

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean Georgia that.

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<v Speaker 8>Exactly, and Florida is Miami and Broward, you know, browd

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 8>and Dates surrounded by Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. The reality is is that.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, we have racially polarized voting in America, and

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 8>the majority of white Americans are Republicans, and people tend

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 8>to vote their party. It's like a tribe, and so

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 8>there are going to be some people who break.

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Away who are Republicans.

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 8>Most Republicans will come home to the Republican Party even

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 8>if it's Trump. And so the Republicans are about twenty

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 8>two to twenty three percent.

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Of the total population. They're actually small group, but they.

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 8>Both like greatly because they're also older and so because

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 8>they are average older people. And the most elderly state

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 8>in the country are Florida and Pennsylvania. So there are

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 8>a lot of older white voters in the state of Pennsylvania,

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 8>and they're falled in a vote pretty much much all

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 8>but women. And this time even white women voters are

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 8>starting to trend away if they have a college degree

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 8>from Trump. So if he loses white women even by

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 8>one percentage one. I've always said to you know, our

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 8>white friends, we don't need all of y'all.

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>You just need fifty percent or more of white women

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to turn away.

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 8>From Republicans and white the women because three percent voted

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 8>for him before, Yes, and Democrats just need to get

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 8>that down to fifty to fifty and believe it or.

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 6>Not, that's enough.

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, A wise person once told me that Democrats

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 3>fall in love Republicans following fall in line, you know, so.

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 8>But one more piece of good news. We don't know

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 8>what's going to happen again. Anything can happen. But I

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 8>think the Republicans actually made a mistake this time with

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 8>that Amy Cony Barrett nomination. I think, well, in their mind,

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 8>they thought this is going to rev up their base.

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's like when you have a tea kettle on.

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 8>Once the water boils, it lets off that sound, and

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 8>then that means the pressure is released. Republicans are always

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 8>better off when their based is anticipating maybe getting.

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>A Supreme Court nomination.

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 8>Now that they have a six to three court, there's

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 8>a lot less motivation and a lot less energy and

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 8>a lot less rage behind the Christian conservative vote.

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>They've taken that off the table. So now they do

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>have doubts about.

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about this now, because what a out this

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.439
<v Speaker 2>other argument that like, now that she's here, because we

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 2>haven't talked about OKAYI Biden wins.

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 4>That doesn't necessarily mean the king the witch is dead.

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 2>If he turns around and decides I'm gonna figure out

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 2>a way to stay here. And this whole you know

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>theory about well, I'm going to go through the Supreme

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Court and I'm going to write this, So is it really.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't help him in the vote, because you know

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 8>most I mean, I worked on a couple of elections,

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 8>and I worked on one where we failed in two

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 8>thousand and four with America coming together, we're trying to

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 8>help carry from outside with your sources money, and I

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 8>worked on both in the press shop.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>And when you talk to voters, anger.

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 10>And retribution are much more powerful motivators than raditude.

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.120
<v Speaker 1>People don't vote for someone because they're great.

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 8>They vote because they're pissed off and or because they

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 8>want someone. So once you give voters a six report,

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 8>they didn't feel comfortable and say.

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not urgent to vote. So if I had doubts

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>about Trump, I now have the thing I really wanted.

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't need, like his personality, I don't need to

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, thank you.

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 8>By voting for him, I can let go, I can

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 8>back off, and I can now.

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Accept the things I don't like. I don't want him

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>anymore because I got what I wanted.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 8>But if you're the women who voted like crazy twenty,

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 8>including again a majority of white college educated women, or

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 8>in rain by the election, and they really wait to

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 8>get revenge. And black women always are out here trying

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 8>to pay back. So twenty eighteen was the tsunami because

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 8>women of all races were enraged and they kept that

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 8>energy for two solid years and voted just everyone they

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 8>can get out and gave the House back the Democrats.

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>So that anchor is still there. And so if for

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Trump to win, the only way he wins this now.

0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 8>Is that he somehow suppresses enough votes in the key.

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>If they somehow are able to stop enough people voting

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>electoral college, that's his only shot.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 4>You can do it in Georgia, Jamie, thanks to the governor.

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>That's one state, But Georgie is I don't know.

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 8>I almost feel more confident about Georgia a little bit

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 8>than Florida because Florida's so difficult. But Georgia black voters

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 8>are voting like crazy.

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I personally, I personally feel as though Biden will win. However,

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 3>what I'm also certain about is the amount of pettiness

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 3>and the amount of uncertainty that's going to occur from

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 3>his last November. Yeah, from November fourth to January twentieth,

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 3>and you know, kick around. I mean, he could again,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 3>that's that's my Everyone is like, oh, I'm afraid of

0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 3>the eflection for sauce, No, I think changing presidents might

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 3>be I don't think that's harder than us surviving uh

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the next sixty days, you know, with him at the

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 3>with him drunk at the will.

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 6>But like, that's what I'm concerned about.

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 9>What is a what is a transfer of power that's

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 9>not the right way? What does that look like? Like

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 9>all that? The only reference I have is like in

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 9>season six of West Wing, you know, Jimmy Smith walks

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 9>out of the thing, and you know, and whomever walks

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 9>in the thing, and that's the only reference I have, Like,

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 9>and they seem to be friends, and then he leaves

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 9>a note, right, and then the note says, don't for

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 9>you know, don't do the wrong thing and where the

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 9>secret codes.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 6>Are or whatever he says.

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 9>You know, I'm just I'm interested when they say, like,

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 9>you know, Trump won't let the transfer power be be peaceful?

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 6>What does that mean?

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 9>Are we gonna have see like armies in the streets?

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 6>Like how.

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 8>I this is the thing I worry about more than

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 8>the pride. I think what state that Biden won? I

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 8>mean that Hillary Clinton one is by not. I don't

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 8>see how Biden uses.

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And he's got a good shot at capturing the three

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>surprise breaks Trump.

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 8>So you know, I'm even at that point where I

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 8>don't know that I you know, I do whipple anounsis

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:28.959
<v Speaker 8>for a living, and I like smart for me to

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 8>trust my own god, which I'm looking at this data

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 8>and I'm saying, everything I need in the data is

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 8>this bib.

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's hard for data to account her voter suppression

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and for just outright.

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 8>That which the Pennsylvania legislature is contemplated the same we

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 8>don't care what the about.

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>We even need the elector.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 8>And then of course that goes before that's the case

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 8>in eighty twenty Varses.

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and given to Trump. So I don't trust the

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court. I don't trust her car trust on claring.

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>But let's just say none of.

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 2>That parents swear, and oh my goodness, I'm sorry, I

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>just you know, I.

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Mean, who else what's where?

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean she is to women with Clarence is to us.

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>So I mean.

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Bubble and that's why we love joy.

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>The same thing.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:27.479
<v Speaker 8>But what I think happens if is that you know,

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 8>Barack Obama as much as he buyes and was horrified

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 8>by Trump, he.

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Left him with no too, like in the West Way,

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>right is gonna.

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 6>Leave a no no.

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I know what it looks like for what he'll do,

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>but I suspect you probably feel like he has to

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>show up the inaugural. Maybe he just doesn't show up

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>at all. But I'm I don't worry about him.

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 10>Because even if he acts food and just needs whatever

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 10>and then goes enpires a lawyer.

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 8>And figures out his legal issues in New York, because

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 8>he will have legal issues in New York. I worry

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 8>about his fan because he doesn't have But I like

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 8>Brock Obama a lot. I respect it.

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't die right, willing dying.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 3>It's a cult, I said, it's a cult. Yeah, straight up.

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 8>It's a Jim Jones situation. And so are people willing

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:19.719
<v Speaker 8>to hurt other people.

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I worry about that.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Worry about you, Nicole Willace and Rachel Maddals heads exploding

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 2>on like at any given moment. That's that's what I

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>worry about. With all this knowledge and information, I don't

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 2>understand how that doesn't happen and how y'all still want

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>to keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>Coverage so Joy, I would actually I would like to

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 3>know you as a person because I watch you so

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 3>much and I don't know anything about your your life beforehand,

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Like where were you born.

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<v Speaker 1>I was born in East Flatbush, Brooklyn, New York.

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<v Speaker 8>The best, the only borough that counts. Uh. My parents

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 8>or immigrants stuff, they somehow met in Iowa for some reason.

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 8>My mother was from Guyana and my father was from

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 8>the Congo.

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>And they somehow.

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<v Speaker 6>That's where you go.

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 8>I really think my mother had been in England and

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 8>she had been teaching and then wanted to come here

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 8>and go to graduate school.

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>And my father was also looking to to graduate school.

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 8>And I really think because for him, you know, the

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 8>Congo had just gotten its liberation and the new government

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 8>there was paying.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>They were paying for everyone's college education. And I think

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>they just said, when we spend out money wisely, we

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>went to spending place to be inexpensive.

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 8>And I think they ended up being like, Iowa, that's

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 8>just cheap, let's go there, you know. And I think

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 8>my mother. I have no idea, because my parents are

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 8>both deceased. I can't even ask them now, but that's

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 8>where they met. And my sister was born in Iowa.

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 8>And then I was born in Brooklyn, and then they

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 8>somehow decided to move to Denver, Colorado, and that's where

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 8>my brother was born, and then they broke up. So

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 8>I was raised in Denver, Colorado from age two to

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 8>age seventeen and was just like you know, nerdy kid

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 8>that loved the news and sports.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>All I really liked was football and the news.

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 3>News as a teenager who loves the news as a teenager.

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, so one day I will never get this.

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 8>I was in like sixth grade, aging myself, and I

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 8>came upstairs and I'm watching this show at night that

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 8>was the Iran hostage crisis countdown, and for some reason,

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 8>I was just fascinated by the fact that people had

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 8>taken hostages and were holding them, would't let him go,

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 8>and I just saw I was like, Mom, can I

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 8>watch this? And she was like, Okay, you can stay

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 8>up and watch it, and I ended up watching Nightline.

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.919
<v Speaker 8>With Nightline, I ended up watching that all the way

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 8>through LL til I graduated high school. I would wach

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 8>this Today show. I was just fascinated by information. I mean,

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 8>I was a nerd, you know, So I just liked

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 8>information and news and so I love that and in.

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Football that's pretty much all I will watch. Well, i'd

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>starting and so I you know.

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Who was your favorite childhood annger? I'm just curious back then?

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Who's your favorite childhood anger back then?

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Now you said that.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 8>Today's show and yeah, I mean you know, later on

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 8>obviously was Gwen Iifel when I got older and it

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 8>was finally a black person. But growing up we were

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 8>all about Dan rather like and now I follow him

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 8>on Twitter and.

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it'd rather be going in right then.

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>He did back then too.

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 8>He had to be subtle with it, but I always

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 8>loved him. I thought he was always really funny.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 3>So when when did you make that in high school?

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 3>When did you did you decide then that you wanted

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 3>to make a real pursuit in the journalism. Why you

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 3>mentioned that you were considering making documentaries first, and like,

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 3>where's your life in your twelve year of high school?

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean, honestly, when I was probably about twelve,

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 8>I also told my mother I wanted to be a doctor,

0:36:58.800 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 8>and my sister told her.

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 1>She want to be lawyer. And West Indian parents don't

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:01.959
<v Speaker 1>play that.

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 8>You want to be and you want to do other

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 8>stuff besides being a doctor or a lawyer. So I

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 8>was supposed to be a doctor, like that's what I

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 8>committed to. And I got into Harvard for pre med

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 8>and so my mother was so proud, and so that's

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 8>what I'm officially going to be. I was like, I

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 8>was going to write books on the side, but really

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.240
<v Speaker 8>be a doctor, and I had committed to that. Unfortunately,

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 8>my mom passed away when I was seventeen. I was

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 8>just about to graduate or had just graduated high school,

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 8>and so I had to kind of make some different

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 8>decisions about what I was going to do because I

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 8>just really at that point did not want to be

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 8>a doctor because I just, you know, I didn't have

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 8>faith in the profession, you know, because I, you know,

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 8>my mom had passed and she was like everything. So

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 8>I went to Harvard, almost failed out, took a year

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 8>off when live with my auntie, my auntie Dolly in

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 8>East back in East Flatbush where we started, and I

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 8>just had to figure something else out. So when I

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 8>went back, I ended up moving out of my auntie's house.

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 8>Because if you anybody who has West Indian relatives or

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 8>knows any West Indian people, so living with a West

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 8>Indian lady meets five nights a week of church, and

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 8>I had been very aret. No, she was a Christian,

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 8>but I haven't raised Methodists. So we went one day,

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 8>you know, one hour. If it went past an hour,

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 8>people were looking at the pass They're like, you need

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 8>to stop preaching because we got to go watch this

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 8>Bronco game.

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.720
<v Speaker 1>So I wasn't all church.

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 8>This was much So I ended up moving out and

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 8>I moved actually right down the street bike Lee, and

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 8>so there was all this stuff happening in Brooklyn at

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 8>Fort Green at the time.

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>That was before Fort Green was gentrified, so it was

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>just very.

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:36.479
<v Speaker 8>Black, very It was just this amazing place to live,

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 8>just ast fight doing everything all the time, and music

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 8>videos and everything was happening on the block. So when

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 8>I went back to Harvard, I switched my major film

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:48.280
<v Speaker 8>and they only had documentaries.

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, oh documentary.

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Wow, okay, who, like, who were the filmmakers that you

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.439
<v Speaker 3>idolized back there or what stories did you want to tell?

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean we studied everything Oscar Me Show on,

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, and but Fike is the person I really admired.

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 8>I was sort of the one person in the class

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 8>that wanted to do narrative films, and they were like

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 8>snobs and they only wanted documentaries, so they wouldn't let

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:11.240
<v Speaker 8>us do narrative.

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 1>But I really idolized Fike back then, and.

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 8>So I was like, I'm gonna beat of females I

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 8>leave when I come out. And I actually wound up

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 8>meeting my husband because when I came out, we formed

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 8>a little production company. I met him because I took

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 8>a job at the School of Visual Arts and I

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 8>was actually his boss kind of in the in the

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 8>production office U and so me and him and a

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 8>bunch of other his friends we formed a little production

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 8>company and we wound up not doing documentaries but doing

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 8>a music video show, a reggae music video show, which

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 8>was back then we were competing with Ralph McDaniels on

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:43.919
<v Speaker 8>on TV in New.

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 1>York City, so we were doing I was the producer,

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>So I booked everybody up. Yeah, no, we knew.

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 8>I mean it was wild because we knew a lot

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 8>of these guys when they were like really just starting out.

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>We booked Shaggy, We booked all of these guys.

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 8>So we were we were doing our little yeah shout out.

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 3>To Shaggy, Thank you bro. No Shaggy slander on the show.

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 5>He said, now I'm gonna say, Shaggy, reason why you

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 5>got your deal?

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 6>Right?

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes exactly, Shaggy is, yes, the success gave me my budget.

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I need to hear this story.

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, basically, the success of it wasn't me and Casey

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 3>and JoJo's All My Life. That's what paid for my

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 3>entire things fall apart, uh marketing budget. So our fourth album,

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 3>no no, no, no no, just saying that the promise you

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 3>were on the same labels, I'm sorry. So the profits

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 3>reaped from Casey and JoJo's All My Life and Shaggy's

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't me, Uh that they used all those profits

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 3>to They gave half the common I have to do

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 3>the American So that's that's what we used for our

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 3>promotion that oh all the time, Like no, this is

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 3>not even exaggeration, like literally, like the numbers. Okay, well,

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Shaggy money is good. So here here guys, you know

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 3>trust me like You Got Me was a three day

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 3>video show, Shaggy. If it wasn't, If it wasn't for Shaggy,

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:20.919
<v Speaker 3>You Got Me would have been like a four hour

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 3>video shoot like illegal, like Hollywood shuffle like okay, guys,

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 3>let's go, but with Shaggy Money. We had a three

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 3>day video shoot Diamond Records.

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 8>Diamond Records my daughter when she was a little baby,

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 8>and we would we had to take the kid had

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.280
<v Speaker 8>be portable and I had her. I pictured her propped

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 8>up in the corner like, don't cry while we were

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 8>interviewing Shaggy. So yeah, he was like one of the

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 8>main We loved interviewing him. He was like a good guy.

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, we were literally doing like we were so

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 8>left field with it. But we did video dub play

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 8>for a while, and then I got pregnant again and

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 8>then we had to actually have a normal jobs, and

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 8>so we wound up moving to Florida. And it really

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 8>wasn't until I got to Miami that I was like,

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 8>let me, I had to switch careers because I, you know,

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 8>I couldn't do what I was doing. I had like

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 8>a day job in consulting or something and was doing

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 8>the music video show with so we were doing on

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 8>the side. And when I got to Florida, I had

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 8>to get a real job, and I wound up getting

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 8>a job writing for the local morning show the Fox affiliate,

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 8>and then switched to the NBC affiliate, and so.

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I got into news really because I had to start over.

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 8>My Spanish wasn't good enough to stay in consulting, and

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 8>I just wanted to do something I love to do

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 8>and be fine.

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>So I ended up New.

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the common theme that I'm hearing here is

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 3>that you've had to meet these sort of abrupt left

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 3>and right turned to a whole nother uh, sort of

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.359
<v Speaker 3>uncharted territory. What is that like for you?

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:40.839
<v Speaker 6>Are you?

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Is there trepidation?

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 8>Like?

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we worked really hard to make this video show

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.359
<v Speaker 3>work and now I love Brooklyn and I can't live

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 3>Like how hard is the adjustment to doing something totally new,

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 3>even with doing readout?

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:42:58.840 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 3>How hard is that adjusted?

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 8>It's not like I grew up with a very adventurous mother,

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 8>you know. My mother literally got on a steamship and

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 8>left Guyana by herself, you know, and went to London

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 8>and lived there and moved here and moved to Iowa.

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 8>Like you were just an adventurous family. We used to

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 8>get in our station wagon to go and drive all

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 8>over the country.

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 1>You drove the Utah, We drove to San Francisco.

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 8>We would just get in the car, Like we drove

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 8>to Mexico to Wahaka and stayed there for a summer

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 8>when she was working on this book project.

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>So she was just that bohemian lady.

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 8>So I just grew up a risk cacker and in

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:34.879
<v Speaker 8>just being comfortable switching plans. We always had to change

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 8>our plans, you know, It's just the way it was.

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 8>She was a single mom, used her life and her

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 8>plans a lot, and so I just was kind of

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 8>raised by somebody like that. So I actually am cool

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 8>with it. I love changing. I like I like the change.

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:48.879
<v Speaker 8>I like I like new environments.

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, that's I admire that because you know, that's

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of a lot of switching back and forth,

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, with your life. So do you feel as

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 3>though you are living out your purpose? Like this is

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 3>what I You didn't know that, this was the the

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>destiny that you asked for.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>No doubt that, no doubt.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 8>I feel like all of the crazy adventures that I've

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 8>had and the you know, the just all of the

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 8>wild kind of changes in my life and prepared me

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 8>for this. I feel like because I was raised in

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 8>the Midwest, I can kind of understand where that sort

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 8>of Republic inside is coming from and analyze them in

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 8>a different way. My father was a Reaganite, my mother

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 8>was a Carter Liberal, and so.

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>They had this whole conversation that was all, what's going on?

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 8>And I think that I think absorbing you know, this

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 8>interesting information, young, and I think also struggle. You know,

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 8>I've you know, I've been real, real, real broke. I've

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 8>been you know, not sure what I was going to do,

0:44:58.120 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, day to day.

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.240
<v Speaker 1>And I think that helped in this business.

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 8>And I think not coming from a journalism background actually

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 8>helps me in this moment because a lot of ways,

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 8>I am, in so many ways.

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>The victim of Trump. What trump Ism is trying to victimize, right.

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 8>Immigrant people, women, women who are you know, stuff for ourselves,

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.800
<v Speaker 8>all the things that trump Ism is fighting, I'm living

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 8>those things. So I think the journalists in the traditional

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 8>sense are hemmed in by the way they're trained to

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 8>be objective. I'm an opinion drop I started off columns.

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm an opinion droope. I can be open.

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 6>Thank god.

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you mentioned what you said earlier, because there's

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 3>been a lot of people, especially on social media, that

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:53.439
<v Speaker 3>have been shocked at the alarming percentage of how many

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 3>conservative black folks we have. And hey, I was trying

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 3>to explain that. Yo, even in the eighties, like those

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Christian parents went with, well, who's more closer to my

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Christian values? And you know they were shocked. My mom

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, I was a shame that. You know,

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 3>we voted for Reagan twice because he was closer to

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 3>a Christian Well, because the thing is is that games well,

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean most people did, like Mary Mary, what's the

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 3>name for Mary Mary, admitted that we voted for Trump

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 3>because that was close. See, the thing is, I feel

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 3>as though, of course, I feel like the GOP is

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 3>being used as the trojan horse of what you know,

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 3>of what these people of, what their agenda is Like

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 3>this current GOP is nothing close to what it was

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 3>thirty years ago. And I think a lot of people,

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 3>especially under the guise of Christianity, like usually their their

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 3>their kind of their Mason Dixon line. Is the issue

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 3>of abortion, Yeah, abortion, whereas now we see it as

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 3>because if you think about it, I'm waiting for the

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 3>day where black Twitter discovers that Commons retrospect for life

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 3>is actually I waiting the day because the thing was

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 3>when we was working on it. When we's working on it,

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, like everyone thought like oh so dee, Like, well,

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 3>God really cares. And now I asked him like two

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 3>months ago, I'm like, yo, dude, I said, you realize

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 3>that one day someone's going to discover retrospect for life,

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 3>like twenty thirty years later, and you're going to.

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:42.919
<v Speaker 6>Be on the side.

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't necessarily on the right side of the fence.

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:47.959
<v Speaker 4>I'm just yo, dog.

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 3>There's again there's a lot of you know, like that line,

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, three hundred and twenty five dollars.

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Your soul, see go to college and I want to

0:47:59.200 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 4>have I.

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 3>Got right, But I've seen more, But I've saw more

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 3>people like yeah, yeah, Like that's when I realized that

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 3>black people were mad conservative.

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 8>Three Zion is kind of like that too, right, It's

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 8>like a subtle kind of pro life you miss. I

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 8>just feel like black black people are tend to be

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 8>pretty conservative socially.

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 3>And we're close to God. Yeah, that's being close to

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 3>God is our hope. Like after all the stuff we've

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 3>gotten through, Like if you tell me that that, like

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 3>you let that go, then where else do we have?

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Like that sort of thing? So yeah, but the amount

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:44.760
<v Speaker 3>of people that whose minds have been blown at why,

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, a lot of my idols and heroes, uh,

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, the last thirty years in hip hop are

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:58.800
<v Speaker 3>sort of showing towards yeah.

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 2>And ways that I fifty cent though he's back, right,

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 2>he's back with us?

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Is that what? Heads?

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 3>He's such a troll. I can't even he's such a troll, Like, yeah,

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 3>fifty knows the value of controversy and saying whatever.

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying.

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know where he's at. I mean, who

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>knows who he'll vote for?

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 8>But what What was surprising to me though, just because

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 8>I'm a little older than I and I'm I'm i

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:25.879
<v Speaker 8>cam up in that public enemy era, and I've been

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 8>surprised of how quiet hip hop has been overall on

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 8>Trump period, Like I expected like war with Trump.

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, like Eminem both.

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 8>About Trump than anybody else, you know, And I'm like,

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 8>why is Eminem out here out front?

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Everybody else is kind of quiet? Like that surprised me.

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought, there's more.

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 4>Why is that? Fellow jobs?

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 3>I think at the end of the day, you know,

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 3>you're and we can go back to seventy two, Your

0:49:55.280 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Bill Withers, your Curtis Mayfields, you're edwin stars. Like they

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 3>weren't balling in a penthouse apartment. They weren't, you know,

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:15.479
<v Speaker 3>and they didn't have much to lose, and hip hop

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.839
<v Speaker 3>became the thing that it was once against. It's mass capitalism.

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 3>There's stuff to lose. Like if you look now, like

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 3>some of our most outspoken capitalists in the hip hop

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 3>game have been very, very silent, you know, kind of

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 3>clutching their pearls.

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:37.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think it's interesting because I'm like.

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I mean a lot of people are silent,

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 3>and you know, and where they are, like, I know

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 3>where a lot of the one percent hip hop people

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 3>are hiding out as far as like what island they're

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 3>on or what you know, that sort of thing. And

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 3>then the other half it's I've gone, man, the amount

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 3>of back of or bickering I've been dealing with in

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:08.800
<v Speaker 3>rappers d ms with me just trying to tell them.

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 6>Like both, well, I don't want them. I don't want.

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Them to get canceled, you know what I mean. Like,

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 3>and there's there's this there's this old mentality that they

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 3>didn't get the memo on that they can't say certain

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.840
<v Speaker 3>things or you know, and it's not me trying to

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 3>control their opinion. But I'm like, dog, I just don't

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 3>want you, just I don't want you to stop your bag.

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 3>And there's like ten of you know, and it's it's

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:37.400
<v Speaker 3>it's just disheartening to me.

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 6>Man.

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's it's like my whole generation might be

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 3>a lie. And I can't I can't come to grips

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:47.359
<v Speaker 3>with that right now.

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:55.360
<v Speaker 8>Athletes, I have to say, I'm so proud of Lebron James.

0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes he's not, but he is not in.

0:51:59.640 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean he's a part of the hip hop generation.

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 5>I mean for me, he's not a rapper. He's not right,

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 5>I get it. I mean I think, you know, just

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 5>speaking for me, you know, because I can only speak

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.799
<v Speaker 5>for myself, you know, and Frante is way younger person.

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm forty one, so you know.

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 5>So But for me, I mean, when when I saw

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 5>Trump got elected, my thought was, and you know, I

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 5>politics is not really something I've involved myself in, you know,

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean I vote, you know, of course, I voted

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:29.840
<v Speaker 5>in all the elections that I was able to, but

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.760
<v Speaker 5>that was eligible to but politics.

0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Weren't really my thing per se.

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 5>But for me, when Trump got elected, I was just like, man,

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 5>white people got theirself into this ship.

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:40.239
<v Speaker 3>They need to get.

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 5>Theirself out of, Like like I ain't got damn you

0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying, Like.

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 3>That's not one to carry.

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean it's some white people burning people

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 2>in there is some I don't give a fuck black

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 2>people in there.

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 4>There's something like that, right it is.

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, it is some loss. I get it.

0:52:57.200 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 3>Fonte is a point because at the end of the day,

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:07.759
<v Speaker 3>I think we're more managing white people shock because no, no, no,

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, it's like one hundred percent.

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 6>If anything, this is.

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 3>The closest that white people will ever know, like that

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 3>uncertainty of I don't know what's going to happen. And

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 3>it's not exaggeration, Like you know how hard it was

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 3>hard for white people to believe that, oh, we really

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.719
<v Speaker 3>are getting our ass kicked and all that stuff. That's

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:30.360
<v Speaker 3>why I never shared that journey story because it's like

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:34.319
<v Speaker 3>who would believe me? Like, oh really, quest love, like

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 3>y'all all got pulled over and da da da da

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 3>da da da da whatever. But it's like, you know,

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 3>this is the closest this is, This is not even

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 3>this is not even fifty percent. This is I feel

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:48.879
<v Speaker 3>like for most white America, this is maybe thirty one

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:54.319
<v Speaker 3>percent of the fear and the stress that we go

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 3>through on a daily basis. Oh my god, I live

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 3>life every day, Like you know, I could die any moment,

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 3>anytime pass a cop car, any time I get on

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:05.319
<v Speaker 3>the highway, I could die. I could die. I could die,

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:06.759
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like, I just live with

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Is this the.

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:09.400
<v Speaker 4>Casey, you feel dirty?

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.360
<v Speaker 1>There's data that backs up everything.

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:14.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm just asking.

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:15.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 3>And the thing is is that you know, we've survived

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Reagan's crack era, like and I don't want to say

0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 3>this sort of like because it's not it's it's it's

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:30.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be dismissive at people like I've

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 3>I've had at least six people very close to me

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.960
<v Speaker 3>pass away from COVID, you know what I mean. So

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be dismissive of like this should

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:46.080
<v Speaker 3>have been avoided at all costs. But at the end

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 3>of the day, I think this is really about the

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:56.560
<v Speaker 3>sanity of white America and can they live with it? Like,

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 3>can they live with uncertainty.

0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I mean you think about it. You know,

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 1>we can go back through it again.

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 8>Right. But Abraham Lincoln who wrote in letters and did

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 8>speeches saying, if you three black people sent him back

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:13.960
<v Speaker 8>to Africa because they shouldn't be allowed to live with

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 8>civilized white folks.

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:19.279
<v Speaker 1>You've got Andrew Jackards, right.

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 8>You've got Andrew and he was on pot slavery, and

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:29.880
<v Speaker 8>that was our friend. Black people became Republicans on site

0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 8>because of him. And he hated black people, just be honest.

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 8>He thought black people were inferior to white people and

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:36.879
<v Speaker 8>wrote that down. You got Andrew Jackson who said kill

0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 8>anybody who was in white marched all the Native Americans

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 8>uh into the trail attempts, don't want to be in camps,

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 8>trailer tears, Kill them all doesn't matter.

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:47.919
<v Speaker 1>He was just genicidal. You've got Woodrow Wilson, Democrat, top

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:51.280
<v Speaker 1>ten according to all the historians. Let almost as.

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 8>Many people die of the so called Spanish.

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Flu as died in the Civil War. It just Trump

0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:57.920
<v Speaker 1>lied about it.

0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 8>Let soldiers come home home from Europe to World War

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 8>One with it and give it out to all of

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:06.160
<v Speaker 8>their friends and family. Let people die just like Trump liar,

0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 8>vehement racist.

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:10.359
<v Speaker 4>We'll talk about Thomas Jefferson, Joey tell him.

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 1>About exactly this.

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 8>He gives lie to the idea that if you have

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 8>black children, you can't be racist.

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Thomas Jefferson, Right.

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 8>I mean I used to tell my students, you know,

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 8>I used to teach the class at Syracuse Nice to

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:24.400
<v Speaker 8>say to them, why do you think that almost everybody

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 8>you meet named Washington, Jefferson or Jackson is right?

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Wow?

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:34.440
<v Speaker 8>Right? Got you know, mister and missus Washington. They may

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:36.400
<v Speaker 8>have three kids, one dies of consumption. Now you got

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 8>two little Washington kids. That's four Washington. But they got

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:41.880
<v Speaker 8>three hundred slaves and they own every one of them,

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.359
<v Speaker 8>three hundred slaves. And every time they produce children, that's

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 8>also Washington. So you just multiply ef right, So all

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 8>of the founders completely racist. You know, you go to

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 8>Woodrow Wilson, genocidal racist, screens of clan movie in the

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:55.720
<v Speaker 8>White House, refuses to let blacks in the civil Service,

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 8>and then he's lauded as a great president. You got

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.799
<v Speaker 8>FDR supposed to be our friend, tried to exclude us.

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.839
<v Speaker 8>You like, give it everybody but the blacks, right, that's

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:08.560
<v Speaker 8>supposed to be our friend. You got you know, Lyndon

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 8>Johnson on tape Nigra Nigro. We gotta do something with

0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:12.880
<v Speaker 8>the nigra.

0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:13.279
<v Speaker 4>Like.

0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 8>He wasn't exactly like super not racist, right, but he

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 8>still did the right thing.

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>But if you listen in his mouth, you're like, wow,

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 8>Look, even Nixon did busting every but he wasn't exactly

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:26.520
<v Speaker 8>a fan. So we've dealt like I think black people

0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 8>have a certain amount of cynicism even about our supposed

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 8>friends in power, and they only like us for so much,

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 8>and so.

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:34.880
<v Speaker 1>We have to get what we can get. And we

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have.

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<v Speaker 8>As high a of a of a bar to say,

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 8>you know, you've got to be perfect, whereas White America

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 8>hasn't really had the sense of insecurity, as you said

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 8>question that we've had. And for the wait, if you're

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 8>in Portland, Oregon, that's not black kids getting there behinds

0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:53.480
<v Speaker 8>kicked by cops when they're out for black lives, that's

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 8>their kids.

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 1>That's their kids.

0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 8>In Seattle getting their behinds beat and getting fire holes,

0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:03.960
<v Speaker 8>that's them and find they're dying. This is in Utah

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 8>and North Dakota and South Dakota.

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 1>That's them.

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:09.280
<v Speaker 8>And so I think that sense of instability and insecurity

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:12.479
<v Speaker 8>at least for white women with college degrees is moving voter.

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:15.760
<v Speaker 8>So this is a referendum on how much you know,

0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:17.280
<v Speaker 8>White America's willing to put up with.

0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:20.600
<v Speaker 1>We know how black men are going to vote, you know,

0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 1>we know two.

0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Thirds we could have it, didn't a new percentage come

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 2>out about how the number of black men are went

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:31.440
<v Speaker 2>up for voting for Trumps.

0:58:30.560 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Men on this that that was my.

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's.

0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 8>Just I'm just going in and appeals to a certain consulinity,

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 8>and he has.

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 1>He's actually gone the.

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Hotel Biggers the outline, but that's you know.

0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 8>It's probably he'll probably get you know, ten eleven percent,

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 8>but you know ten eleven percent of black men tend

0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 8>to vote Republican anyway, So he'll get his ten eleven

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 8>percent of black men, he'll you know, ninety four percent

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 8>of black women, ninety nine percent of black women to

0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:05.479
<v Speaker 8>vote against him. He'll get he's getting more Hispanics because

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 8>there's just a certain kind of masculinity. Yeah, they'll get some,

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:10.960
<v Speaker 8>but he's the overwhelming majority of black men are going

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 8>to vote by.

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:14.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just thought that was interesting. I was like, okay,

0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 4>so why did why did go up?

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Though?

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:17.160
<v Speaker 4>Why to go up? Though?

0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Why did what go up?

0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:23.919
<v Speaker 5>The black men numbers for drunk drunk because there's a yeah,

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:29.440
<v Speaker 5>the the kind of toxic masculinity kind of me too blowback.

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's that's you know, you cheer for the

0:59:32.840 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 3>black bad guy. This is why we watched Scarface a lot,

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 3>and not from Here to Eternity we watch? Is that

0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 3>the only film? I'm sorry that was an odd example,

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, I just in my mind, I was like,

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 3>don't say that film, Just say anything pee Wee's bigg Adventurement.

0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Don't but.

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:56.360
<v Speaker 8>Sixty hip hop lyrics like he he meane a lot

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 8>of you know. I remember interviewing Uncle Luke in twenty

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 8>fifty and he was like, we were all at Trump's

1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:04.200
<v Speaker 8>house party. You know, Trump's in our lyrics.

1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Like Trump's on like method Man's record, but a record thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think that's a different context because I

1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 5>don't think it's fair to say there are plenty of

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<v Speaker 5>people I hung out at parties with. I don't think

1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:18.360
<v Speaker 5>the motherfucker should be president, you know what I mean?

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:20.920
<v Speaker 5>So I think it's a different context of like this

1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:23.800
<v Speaker 5>guy in the eighties, I mean, you know, the eighties nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he was basically just he was just like

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<v Speaker 3>a celebrity.

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<v Speaker 5>It was aspirational and it was he was just a

1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:31.760
<v Speaker 5>nigga that finessed. He was basing the nigga that so

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 5>prefaiked legal and was just a finessing everybody. But you

1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:37.680
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, Like that's all the shit was.

1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:41.000
<v Speaker 5>But now you see the finesse. It's like, you respect

1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 5>the finesse. Like you see the finesse, it's like, oh man,

1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:46.120
<v Speaker 5>he finessing and doing this and he's selling buildings. It's like,

1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:48.720
<v Speaker 5>oh now he's doing this. Oh he's got a TV show,

1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:51.640
<v Speaker 5>And like, you respect the finesse. But then once it

1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:54.440
<v Speaker 5>gets to the White House, it's like, okay, y'all, then

1:00:54.480 --> 1:00:55.320
<v Speaker 5>took this shit to fall.

1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Now it's dangerous.

1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 5>Like before it was like a guy we just kind

1:00:58.840 --> 1:01:00.959
<v Speaker 5>of looked at, you laughed at you laughed at the hair,

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:03.760
<v Speaker 5>you saw whatever. But now it's like, hold up, dude, y'all,

1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:05.439
<v Speaker 5>don't put this motherfucker in the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you shipping me? Like, nah, come to fuck on,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the part where nah, bro don't don't do that, y'all,

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<v Speaker 5>don't ran this shit too far.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's what Joy be thinking every day

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<v Speaker 2>when she's sitting at that desk.

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<v Speaker 1>I really, I still can't believe that.

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<v Speaker 8>People, because he did lose the election. I just can't

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<v Speaker 8>believe them. Four hundred people in the electoral calls said yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>let's do.

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<v Speaker 1>This, let's put this.

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<v Speaker 3>It was that close.

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<v Speaker 6>So okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So that brings me to a question, Joe, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 5>to know your thoughts on So I'm curious to see

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<v Speaker 5>what the post Trump effect will be on politics, because

1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:47.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, on one hand, there's a lot of people

1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:50.080
<v Speaker 5>that are saying, well, Trump got it, So now the

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<v Speaker 5>I guess the kind of cold of personality and the

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<v Speaker 5>celebrity that that door is wide open. So now you

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<v Speaker 5>might see, hell, the rock might try to run some

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<v Speaker 5>ship or.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I mean, you know what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, and I want to know your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of think that now this may be a

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<v Speaker 5>tipping point where the American public are looking at this

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<v Speaker 5>ship and they like, look, dude, let the papers pop in,

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<v Speaker 5>the breakers break, you know what I mean, Like, y'all

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<v Speaker 5>motherfuckers like, let the politicians be politicians.

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<v Speaker 3>Just you famous niggas. Just be famous niggas. Don't it.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't never tried it, Like we gave you one shot.

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<v Speaker 3>We tried to think out the box. Now rest your niggas.

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<v Speaker 3>Just go sit home.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't care if y'all left right Democrat. No, just

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<v Speaker 5>keep making movies. Stay the funk out of politics because

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<v Speaker 5>y'all fucking shit up.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 8>You go.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell that to Puffy, Tell that to Kanye.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they figure.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Republicans figured they're one, they're one for two

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<v Speaker 8>because they had Reagan. You know, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 8>that this is over because you gotta remember about.

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<v Speaker 5>Reagan too, But like even Reagan, it was different because

1:02:59.560 --> 1:03:02.960
<v Speaker 5>Reagan governor, he was a governor at least got it and.

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<v Speaker 3>As an actor, you governor now, right, y'all do that.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he's not. I'm not saying that. Don't don't't talk

1:03:09.280 --> 1:03:09.520
<v Speaker 4>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>You better move who running for now? He's he has

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<v Speaker 3>his yay, now has his sights for being governor of California. First,

1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:21.360
<v Speaker 3>good luck, not good for anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Help him. He needs help.

1:03:25.760 --> 1:03:27.920
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, you can't tell nobody known with five

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars in their pocket.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously we really got five billion in his pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, you know, I asked Adidas this all the time.

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<v Speaker 8>With joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it crazy to ask you?

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<v Speaker 2>Can?

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<v Speaker 8>You?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Well, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the first question.

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<v Speaker 5>So you think do you think do you think celebrities

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<v Speaker 5>are done out of politics?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 8>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think the post Trump fit will be?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think it's done, because you have to remember,

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<v Speaker 8>part of what drives Republicans is a real anger that

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<v Speaker 8>they've lost the culture. And I think they're more angry

1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:06.160
<v Speaker 8>about losing the culture than they are about facing the

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<v Speaker 8>political majorities. And they don't ever win majorities. They don't

1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:12.200
<v Speaker 8>care about that. What they hate is that back when

1:04:12.280 --> 1:04:15.440
<v Speaker 8>Reagan was in being a Republican was cool still. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>they could still get invited to the Oscars. What they

1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:22.000
<v Speaker 8>really want is they want you to like them. They

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<v Speaker 8>want the culture to be into them. They hate the

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<v Speaker 8>fact that they feel isolated from Hollywood. They feel isolated

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<v Speaker 8>from the music world. Not one Sarago artists hate them.

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<v Speaker 8>They they covet being around celebrities and being among celebrities.

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<v Speaker 8>We had Robert de Niro on the show and he

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<v Speaker 8>knows that Trump wants desperately for him to show up

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<v Speaker 8>at the White House and like be his friend. He

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<v Speaker 8>hate can't stand him, and most of the really famous

1:04:48.320 --> 1:04:51.000
<v Speaker 8>people can't. And that's why when Kanye popped up, they

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<v Speaker 8>were so eager to grab him and hold and grab

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<v Speaker 8>him and hold on to him because they just want

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<v Speaker 8>the culture and they same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They snatched up on him.

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<v Speaker 8>They couldn't wait to tweet him out as a matter,

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<v Speaker 8>but he was apparently wasn't prepared for them to tweet

1:05:03.800 --> 1:05:06.960
<v Speaker 8>him out like that, not that I don't know. He

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<v Speaker 8>didn't think they were going to do him like that,

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<v Speaker 8>but they're so desperate to have the culture. So no,

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<v Speaker 8>I think if anybody halfway famous tries it again, Republicans

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<v Speaker 8>will do it because they're basically a minority party of

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<v Speaker 8>Christian white men and their wives, and there's just not

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<v Speaker 8>enough of those to ever be a popular political party.

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<v Speaker 1>And they feel like Mark Cuban is our standard bearer.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe that'll translate over and people will ignore what he's

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<v Speaker 8>saying and just look at who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's not over.

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<v Speaker 5>I could see, yeah, I can see. Maybe I had thoughts.

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<v Speaker 5>I was talking with a friend of mine. Earlier, we

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<v Speaker 5>thought about Tucker Carlson being like a dangerous you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean. I mean just I mean, he's he's

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<v Speaker 5>in so many homes, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>Like well, And it used to be people who are

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<v Speaker 8>really rich wouldn't want to be president because it's the

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<v Speaker 8>Sallery cut, you know, scorners me five thousand years to

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<v Speaker 8>a million.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trump has shown that you can make million.

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<v Speaker 8>Billions president, I mean president, now that you know people

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<v Speaker 8>who have authoritarian you know, you richer while you're president.

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<v Speaker 1>He's broken all the rules. And then a smart version

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump and then we're really in Joey.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious because I watched Unless way, way, way too much.

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<v Speaker 2>And the one conversation I haven't heard people have yet

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<v Speaker 2>is letting Trump out of the White House with the

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<v Speaker 2>information that he has, what do we do about that?

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<v Speaker 2>And him monetizing that and doing all kinds of mess

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<v Speaker 2>up things to the country to pay.

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<v Speaker 4>Us back to what we did.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't I don't see Trump as somebody with the

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<v Speaker 8>mental acuity to remember any important things to give them away.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't sharp.

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<v Speaker 8>I know, if you'd like to talk about Biden being off,

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<v Speaker 8>but Trump not right up there, you know, up here,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sure he could remember it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more worried about people like Art.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just about to say, Avonka, what about Ivanka don.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared, Like, yeah, you don't know what they would sell.

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<v Speaker 8>We don't know what's for sale when they you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I've heard about that too, especially for Russia and especially.

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<v Speaker 1>To the studies and y'all go, I only know.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't dang.

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<v Speaker 4>We did exactly to joy what we said. We weren't politics. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>can I do want to ask you this though?

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny you mentioned just all the effects of Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and how your career has kind of been, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a effect of that, and with the readout it's

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting as well, because even with the unfortunate you know,

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<v Speaker 2>exit of Chris Matthew, of Chris Matthews kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing as the Trump effect.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wanted to know how you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's do you feel like a heavy weight because now

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<v Speaker 2>you are when Eiffel, now you are the lone black

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<v Speaker 2>woman doing the primetime news.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, can I answer this question? Yes, because you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to answer a question that I also want to know,

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<v Speaker 3>is how secure do you feel with the readout and

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<v Speaker 3>how it's going now because I was emotionally attached to

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<v Speaker 3>another black female journalist at this very station. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>poof thin air. And that's that's kind of my thing

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<v Speaker 3>when when a new show comes and I like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to get emotionally attached because then there's no security.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, there's no such thing as job security. But

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<v Speaker 3>but because the the the resounding uh praise for the show,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, has has been so good, do you feel

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<v Speaker 3>that you're in at least a good place with the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, definitely.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, look the I'm friends with both of those

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<v Speaker 8>two ladies who are talking about and you know, I

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<v Speaker 8>mean the you know, when I took over the weekend show,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I actually I was here talking to Melissa

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<v Speaker 8>because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't want her to leave, you know, I did, and

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<v Speaker 1>I depended on her show. I was like, I really

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<v Speaker 1>really missed her and I still miss her voice a.

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<v Speaker 8>Tip and.

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<v Speaker 4>Her name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I I.

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<v Speaker 8>Me too, me too with me and like tammeron Hall

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<v Speaker 8>is just blown all the way up and I'm so

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<v Speaker 8>proud of her and I watched her.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I always already in Marylyn. Her show is

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<v Speaker 1>on at one o'clock, so I already know every everything

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<v Speaker 1>that happened.

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<v Speaker 8>When it comes off, like d it, I can't look

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<v Speaker 8>at Twitter, but I mean so, I mean the good

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<v Speaker 8>thing about this, there's always another light. And I had

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<v Speaker 8>my show canceled my daytime, my daytime show canceled, and

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<v Speaker 8>felt what that felt like. And so there's nothing that

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<v Speaker 8>can really hurt me now, you know, getting canceled once

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<v Speaker 8>it's happened to you back in that prospect. I'm a

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<v Speaker 8>good writer, I'm a smart person. I'm innovative.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>If the show end tomorrow, okay, well thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh you know, we appreciate you coming on the show

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<v Speaker 3>and giving us your time. I know that you know

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<v Speaker 3>your hour plus is precious time.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh promote your commerce, your promis series, so please,

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<v Speaker 2>please please, And I.

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<v Speaker 8>Want to just to add to my last answer to

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<v Speaker 8>say that I you know, I'm not saying I don't

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<v Speaker 8>absolutely love doing the show, which I do. I just

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<v Speaker 8>want to make that clear because it's fun, Like we

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<v Speaker 8>managed to have fun, and so I just want to

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<v Speaker 8>big up we managed to like make that news fun,

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<v Speaker 8>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love doing the show. I love doing my

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<v Speaker 1>weekend go back. Then I missed them as well, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. This is I'm lucky.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm blessed. But my mom never made a kind of

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<v Speaker 8>money that I'm making. She never got the chance. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm proud. I think she proud because she was a

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<v Speaker 8>new So I'm just happy to be out there making

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<v Speaker 8>my mother proud.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what do you what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Decompressed?

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<v Speaker 6>Joy?

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<v Speaker 8>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you watch? I don't want this just to

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<v Speaker 3>be the doom and gloom? What do you do to relax?

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<v Speaker 8>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Watching?

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<v Speaker 8>I love watching side By I know y'all started off

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<v Speaker 8>talking about love Craft country.

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<v Speaker 1>I love side By stuff. I love anything with zombies

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<v Speaker 1>in it. No, I was like, all the walking is

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<v Speaker 1>all the walking, all of that. I just love like

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<v Speaker 1>creature features, like, you know, give me a hunt. I

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<v Speaker 1>just finished watching The Haunting a black House, good called Dark,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like a crazy like time travel crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love watching TV. I grew I'm Generation next,

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<v Speaker 1>so I grew up watching the TV. So I love

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I did for Did you watch?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you watched?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there's two competing Coke documentaries. There's The Vow on

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<v Speaker 5>HBO and then.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to go in, let's go in. Let's okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>starts the val.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't watch the Vow. So the Vow is

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<v Speaker 5>like series. It's a nine part series. First off, just

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<v Speaker 5>right there a nine part documentary series like Nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like a forty page suicide note.

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<v Speaker 5>You really don't want to do that, so right, So

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<v Speaker 5>like it's the ship is nine fucking parts, right, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's about this coat. It is this this white dude

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<v Speaker 5>there's like running this like fu Heithaniery running who just

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<v Speaker 5>got sentenced to one hundred and twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, like yesterday, he would be long gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Then asked, oh no, it's real.

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<v Speaker 4>This ain't.

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<v Speaker 5>This ain't fictionalized, that nigga sitting down for one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>twenty of them things.

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<v Speaker 3>So they just you know, he got it.

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<v Speaker 5>The vow nine parts and but and it's directed by

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<v Speaker 5>two of the directors that used to be in the Coat,

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<v Speaker 5>or they went to some of them, and then there

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<v Speaker 5>got all this footage of people and it's just basically

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<v Speaker 5>about how this nigga was a scammer. He had like

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<v Speaker 5>a a fucking pyramid scheme he was running and then

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<v Speaker 5>he had this other thing on the side out of

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<v Speaker 5>the pyramid scheme that it was a sex coat and

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<v Speaker 5>he was branding women and you know, like all this shit.

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<v Speaker 5>The vowel is nine parts, is super long, and don't

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<v Speaker 5>watch it. No, don't watch this ship its bull shits.

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<v Speaker 1>Whats to watch?

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<v Speaker 5>The other one that the competing one is seduced. Now seduced.

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<v Speaker 5>This's on stars and seduce. Come on, listen, hold on, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>now the difference seduced. It's only four parts and they

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<v Speaker 5>come out the gate. The first two minutes it's all smoke, baby. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they get right to it. They get into all like

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<v Speaker 5>all the all his funck ship and you know, just

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<v Speaker 5>how basically hit and and they also in h in Seduced.

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<v Speaker 5>They have a psychologist on it that breaks down like

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<v Speaker 5>all the techniques he was using and like techniques that

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<v Speaker 5>colts will use and like everything. So and and it's

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<v Speaker 5>based by the girls. So the girl that the that

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<v Speaker 5>seduced is based on uh India, well, Alison mac She

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<v Speaker 5>was the one that was helping to run the car.

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<v Speaker 5>But the girl that like went under and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>get her out. It was the Oxenburger, was it? Christine India? India, India,

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<v Speaker 5>So India Oxenburg. Her mom is Christine Oxenburg, who's this

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<v Speaker 5>white lady used to be on Dynasty back in the day.

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<v Speaker 5>And her grandma, yeah grandma, Hey, so Christine Notusenberg rich

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<v Speaker 5>white dynasty actions lady. And then the the grandma is

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<v Speaker 5>like a real queen. She was like the queen of

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<v Speaker 5>some country or something like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The duchess of some ship and so.

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<v Speaker 8>And so.

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<v Speaker 6>Then they get off his chest.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to see you go ahead, and so then

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<v Speaker 5>like they get into how the Bronfman sisters were like

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<v Speaker 5>bank rolling this nigga, like he pulled.

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<v Speaker 3>The funded my records. Yeah, them was about to go

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<v Speaker 3>to jail and Jojo and Shaggy I'm good for right now.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't me, Claire and the other one I can't

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<v Speaker 5>remember Claire and the other sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, they about to go to jail.

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<v Speaker 5>But but yeah, so it's if you're in just for

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<v Speaker 5>some good kind of trash, like white people foolishness, just to.

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<v Speaker 3>Take the load off your chance jewelry, I.

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<v Speaker 11>Recommend seduced you relaxing some white people foolishness. Fucking Okay,

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<v Speaker 11>Well there you go. There's your white people foolish and

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<v Speaker 11>stuff Filo the day.

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<v Speaker 1>After election day from Diana. So every time they would say, oh, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>where's your accent from where you're from? And she would

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<v Speaker 1>say Guyana.

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<v Speaker 8>They said, oh, are you from Jonestown and she would

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<v Speaker 8>have to say Georgetown, georgetownwn.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, cold stuff. I'll watch it.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and I also watched it was good. If you'll

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<v Speaker 5>check the forty year old version. That's really yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a is a great black wonderfulness right there

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<v Speaker 4>on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, so now we gave you something to decompress.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Joey, We thank you for coming on our show.

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<v Speaker 3>We appreciate it. Joy read everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Check it out NBC.

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<v Speaker 8>The six part podcast is actually going to be ending

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<v Speaker 8>right when this is coming out, when this episode is

1:16:24.680 --> 1:16:27.840
<v Speaker 8>coming out of this show of this uh plus love show.

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<v Speaker 8>And it is a six part series on the making

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<v Speaker 8>of Kamala Harris. It's called Kamala Harris next in Line,

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<v Speaker 8>so that is downloadable where you get the podcast. And

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<v Speaker 8>then my other podcast is called What to Read and

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<v Speaker 8>Me interviewing book authors hopefully soon plus love too. And

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<v Speaker 8>so I got two podcasts. I'll have a third one

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<v Speaker 8>that's coming out next year, we're coming back to call.

1:16:46.320 --> 1:16:48.960
<v Speaker 8>We'll read this, read that, which is me and Jackie

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<v Speaker 8>Ree just being silly. That's just being still out.

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<v Speaker 3>You should be on that one. I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want you to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Black America just called and wanted me to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>and say thank you, and we got your back forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thanks, Thank you America.

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<v Speaker 3>No, okay, well on behalf of fon Tikeolo, Sugar Steve,

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<v Speaker 3>unpaid Bill lie here.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, this is Quest Love Joy.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much. We will see you on the

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<v Speaker 3>next go round of Quest Love Supreme.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you. Hey, this is Sugar Steve.

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