1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday arators 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: Tyrack dot com will help you get there an unmatched election, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: thousand recommended installers. Tyreck dot com The way tire buying 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: should be. Eric Torres here in the tireq LA, Fox 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios, jmart down in Nashville, jaymart what's going on? 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: A man? What's happening? It's been a lot of sports today. 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: I watched a multitude of stuff watching hockey right now 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact. But yeah, it's been a 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: pretty good Saturday, a lot of good stuff, including an 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: awesome start to a series that looks like it could 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: be in be a real gem in the NBA. 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you mentioned a lot of sports on 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: air tonight or throughout the day. We do officially have 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: an over time in Game seven in the Eastern Conference 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: playoffs in hockey, as Toronto and Boston are tied one 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: to one after three periods. As I walked in the 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: studio and I saw this could go overtime, I was like, 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: you know, we get one of those seven overtime hockey 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: games tonight. I would not complain because it has been 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: a great day and I think just a great couple 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: weeks in sports. The playoffs are really ramping up, so 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: let's go ahead and start there. Jason as Monci just 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: told us Minnesota wins Game one in. 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: Denver one oh six ninety nine. The big story. 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards forty three points in this game also worth noting. 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Nas Reed, six Man of the Year, finishes with sixteen points, 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: including fourteen in the fourth quarter, including his own personal 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: ten ozer run, so Minnesota takes Game one against Denver. 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: I have a lot of thoughts. What is the first 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: thing that comes to your mind when you see that score? 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: Jason, Well, I mean it's hard if you, if you 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: watch the game, not to talk about Edwards and how 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: good he really is and how you saw it right 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: here if you didn't already know it that. I mean, 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: he's as good as anybody in the league right now, 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: and on the offensive end, he was almost unguardable for them. 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing, I don't know if 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: it's just looking at the score, but watching the game 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: the size that Minnesota has, the height that they have 43 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: can cause Denver a lot of trouble. Like whereas we 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: talked about how the Lakers were just that was a 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: bad matchup for them to match up with the Nuggets, 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: this is a team that actually looks built to beat Denver, 47 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: or certainly to compete with them because of the size, 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: because of the offensive ability. A couple of the guys, 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: and then he got the six Man of the Year 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: who was not good at all for three quarters or 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: maybe even a little more than three quarters, but then 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: absolutely went nuts in the fourth, which I think it 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: was Reggie Miller. Jamal Crawford won on the television broadcast 54 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: that said, this is what six Man of the Year 55 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: is supposed to do. Of course Crawford would know that, 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: having been a former winner of that award. I just 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: looked at Minnesota and came away really impressed. As young 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: as they are, they were up for the challenge against 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: the defending champions, who are really good in tight basketball games, 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: and they they're the ones that put on that sixteen 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: to seven run that put it out of reach. 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny. 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's easy for everybody to say, oh, 64 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: you know you saw this coming. 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: Whatever. 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: I did think after the way that Minnesota handled Phoenix 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: in the last round, I did think. I said, you 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: know two things, really well, really three things. 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: Honestly. 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: One, Denver, all of those Lakers games they could have lost. 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: Now they didn't, and it's credit to them. But I 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: was thinking, you know, you go through you go through 73 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: that series, you fall down and basically every single game. 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: And I sat there and said, I was like, you 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: do that against Minnesota, You're gonna lose some of these games. 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: Now, they fell. 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: Down a lot early, came all the way back, had 78 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: the lead, We're in control for a good chunk of 79 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: the game. And then obviously Minnesota really dominated the fourth quarter. 80 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: So that was one. 81 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: But two didn't I don't think play one didn't play 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: great against the Lakers. Two, Jamal Murray is clearly not 83 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. And then three, it's exactly what you 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: just said. That size is that you go back to 85 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: last year in the playoffs, and you know, I remember 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: talking with you about Denver in round two. I vividly 87 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: remember we Denver played Phoenix in Round two of the playoffs, 88 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: and I just remember coming on air that night, you 89 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: know with jokicch and Porter six ' nine, six ' ten, 90 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon and I just said that this size that 91 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: Phoenix has no answers for it at all, and at 92 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: the time they had DeAndre a and whatever doesn't really matter. 93 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is that coming into 94 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: the series, I sat there and said, you know, they 95 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: actually do have the bigs too, as much as you're 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: going to neutralize Nicole jokicch you know. And it's funny 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: he had thirty two, eight and nine tonight, but I 98 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: don't think it was a vintage Jokich game. Yeah, like 99 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: that sounds crazy, but he did have seven turnovers was 100 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: minus twelve when he was on the floor. Now, part 101 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: of that is just when you lose, you're probably not 102 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: gonna have a positive plus minus. But I just bring 103 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: it up because it felt like those big guys gave 104 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: him trouble. And I think we got ourselves a series, 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: I really do. I don't think there was anything fluky 106 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: about this. I don't think this was you know, oh, 107 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: and Edwards got hot and that's not replicable. I think 108 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: pretty much everything that happened tonight is replicable three more 109 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: times in a seven game series, and I think we're 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: gonna have a great one in this series. 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing about Jokisch and I think your point 112 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: is exactly the way that I viewed it also is 113 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: just yeah, he had a nice stat line, but that game, 114 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean he had to earn all of that. Like 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: they fed him the ball a lot in the second half, 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: but he was winded he was playing. I saw this 117 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: as well, like after the game when you see the highlights, 118 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: he was doing some real uncharacteristic stuff because he was 119 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: trying to make things happen. He was playing maybe a 120 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: half step faster than his usual pace, and it showed 121 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: and they got in the way and they caused him 122 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: to make some mistakes. He was a little bit frustrated. 123 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean they worked him. They put three different guys 124 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: on him at different times in the game, and he 125 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: had to earn everything. That was a very inefficient stat 126 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: line because he had over twenty shots to get to 127 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: that point. It was It's gonna be a knockdown, drag 128 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: out fight, is what it feels like. I mean the 129 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: elevation the team that was gassed in the fourth quarter 130 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: was Denver, not Minnesota, even though it was in their building. 131 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: And Denver had not lost at home since like mid 132 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: March or something like that. So this, I mean, this 133 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: was a statement win for Minnesota, especially when you consider 134 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: the way they came out, forced the issue, and then 135 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: the Nuggets came back on them, and it looked like, okay, 136 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: all right, well here's what the Nuggets are gonna do. 137 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: How are the Tea Wolves going to respond? Well, they 138 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: found themselves down four at the half. Considering how it 139 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: was looking at that point, that felt pretty good if 140 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: you were a Minnesota fan. Then you get to the 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: second half and it felt like watching the game, the 142 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Nuggets were hanging on yep and the Tea Wolves just 143 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: kept pushing them towards the ropes like it just felt 144 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: like they were the aggressors all night long, led of 145 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: course by Anthony Edwards, because he was forcing the issue 146 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: as often as possible, and he showed some stuff, some 147 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: of these fallaway shots, the hit and the one crossover 148 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, the jumper from the right side 149 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: that was disgusting in the best possible way, like that, 150 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know, I don't even know what you're 151 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: supposed to do to that except just marvel at it, 152 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: like you can't defend it, you can't do anything about it. 153 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: You just want to see that again, like he is special, 154 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: special special, and we'll see. I mean, Denver could easily 155 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: still win the series, no question about that. But this 156 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: one's gonna be one of the hardest, if not the hardest, 157 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: that they've ever dealt with with this core group, because 158 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: this Minnesota team is actually built to compete with them 159 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: from a size and they're deeper than Denver as well, 160 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: so that's a challenge. 161 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of thoughts here. One obviously you mentioned. 162 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's hard to not look at this 163 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: game and talk Anthony Edwards. I'll say this is you know, 164 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: I really am enjoying the the Anthony Edwards arc here 165 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: and I listen, I think everybody is. That's not really 166 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 2: like an amazing take. But you know, sometimes in the NBA, 167 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: I think too often, as a matter of fact, like 168 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: guys get anointed before. And I've used this argument for years, 169 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: but you know, Jason Tatum has that great Game seven 170 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: against Lebron. 171 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: When he's nineteen. 172 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: Oh he's this, He's and it's like in he's been 173 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: really good since then. But but you know, the moments 174 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: have been fleeting right. Remember one year in the playoffs, 175 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell went, oh, Donovan Mitchell's this, and it's like, no, no, 176 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: you know, I remember talking. You know, people were saying 177 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: Luca's the best player in the league before he had 178 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: ever even won a playoff series. But I bring all 179 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: that up because it feels like, you know, we've been 180 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: looking for who's that next guy to carry the torch 181 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: in this league. You and I have talked for the 182 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: last two weekends, the last two Saturdays about you know, 183 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: the fact that not only is there no Kadie Stephan 184 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: Lebron at this point in the playoffs, but that it 185 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: feels like the torch is being passed from era to 186 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: era and even if the Lakers had somehow made the 187 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: second round or the Suns had somehow made a second 188 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: or whatever, it just feels like those guys times are 189 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 2: mostly up, and so. 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: I bring it. 191 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: I bring it up to say, like I think in 192 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: the past, we've been in a rush to try to 193 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: figure out who that next guy is, and people anoint 194 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: a guy before he's really that guy. I just think 195 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: you look at Anthony Edwards forty in the close out 196 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: game against Phoenix, including that not only the great dunk 197 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: to really kind of make a statement late in that game, 198 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: but also the big block on Devin Booker which helps 199 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: seal that victory forty in a close out game forty 200 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: three in a Game one on the road. I just 201 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: think he's here, man, I just think he's here. And 202 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna do. You know, he's the 203 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 2: best of this He's the best. I just think when 204 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: you talk about who is going to potentially carry this 205 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: league in the host Lebron Steph Katie world, I do 206 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: think he should be at the front of that list. 207 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean I think he's here and 208 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere. Now. We don't know anything can happen, 209 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: but I would place money on the fact that this 210 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: is something that's here to stay. I think the two 211 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: guys in the west to watch, especially if you were 212 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 1: kind of a lapsed NBA fan, they're coming back to 213 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: the league. Anthony Edwards just one of them, and Sga 214 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: is the other one, and both of them have the 215 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to become household names during this postseason, with Alexander 216 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: certainly being an MVP candidate and Edwards really should be 217 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: an MVP candid. I mean, dude, average twenty six in 218 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: the regular season. I mean you look at that team 219 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: and actually it's weird because I looked at Minnesota tonight 220 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: watching and it was just kind of like, like, quietly, 221 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: they've acquired a lot of talent. But what changed is 222 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Edwards took that star turn and now you have that 223 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: alpha dog because I don't think Carl Anthony Towns has that, 224 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: Like he does some bone headed stuff. He had two 225 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: really bad fouls in the fourth or to put himself 226 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: on the bench. He at times can be frustratingly soft 227 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: to me out there, Edwards is not. Edwards is a dog. 228 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Like I mean that that taunting technical which was a 229 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: hideous call. It was awful call against him. Like that's 230 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that you can't coach it. Like 231 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: he's got that, he's got that killer mentality in him. 232 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: He wants to crush you. And that that changes everything 233 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: because now Towns can be more of who he needs 234 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: to be out there, and all these other guys fit 235 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: perfect roles because now they're where they should be because 236 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: they have their number one guy and that dude is legit. 237 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: Like if you saw Barkley after the game and if 238 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: you listen to the broadcast and saw the way that 239 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: they were talking about him, like they're trying not to 240 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: invoke a bunch of legend names watching him, like they're 241 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: not gonna mention names, but they're kind of shaking their 242 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: head like we're starting to get it rarefied air watching 243 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that he's doing. He's gonna have 244 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: to do it for a lot longer. But this is 245 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: a very very bright thing for the NBA is somebody 246 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: like this, And there are multiple guys now in the 247 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: league that seem to be emerging at the same time 248 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: that are young and can be there for a while. 249 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna see one tomorrow in Bankero. I mean, 250 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: he's another one that's really really good. But you have 251 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: some and of course you've got Pacers. Why does his 252 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: name escape Tyres Albert, Yeah, Haliburton, like, and he's been 253 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: a league for a couple of years. But you've got 254 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: some guys. You've got some guys to build around in 255 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: this league right now, and I hope they take advantage. 256 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's It's been a really fun playoffs, 257 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: capped by a fun game one the Minnesota Timberwolves beat 258 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets one oh six ninety nine thanks to forty 259 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: three points from Anthony Edwards, sixteen points, including fourteen in 260 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter from Nas Reed. Fox Sports Radio Aaron Tors, 261 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: Jason Martin taking me up until two am Eastern time. 262 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: As fun as Minnesota Denver was, Jason, No, who's not 263 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: having fun right now? The Los Angeles Lakers. Another coach, 264 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: another coach. It's always the coach's fault. Neva Lebronce. We're 265 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: gonna come back discuss the Lakers situation. Next, what happened 266 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: with Darvin Ham And I think the bigger question, why 267 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: would anybody want to coach the Lakers? 268 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: That's next. Fox Sports Radio. 269 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 270 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: Hey, this is Tom Berducci from Fox Sports, MLB Network 271 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: and Sports Illustrated. 272 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: And I'm Joe Madden. We're going to be around to 273 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about managerial decisions and what may 274 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: have accredit to the dugout maybe in the nineteen eighties. 275 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: It's the Book of Joe Podcasts. I can't wait for this, Joe. 276 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: We're going to dive into what goes on in the 277 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 4: dugout and behind the scenes in Major. 278 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: League baseball, cars, wind, whatever else we want to talk about. 279 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, well there are no boundaries, right. Listen to the 280 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 4: Book of Joe podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple 281 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 4: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 282 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Ericitors, Jsonmartin Broadcasting Live, 283 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: Tothtirerack dot Com Studio. Game one in the books Western 284 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: Conference semi Finals. Minnesota takes Game one in Denver, Minnesota. 285 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: Timberwolves up won nothing on the Denver Nuggets. Tomorrow Game 286 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: seven Orlando and Cleveland. Let's switch gears, though, because there 287 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: is a team that is not in the playoffs that 288 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: is worth discussing. And it is because as of about 289 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: eighteen or so hours ago yesterday, not only were they 290 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: not in the playoffs, they don't have a coach, of course. 291 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: Talking about the Los Angeles Lakers, who, after losing five 292 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: games to the Denver Nuggets earlier this week, fired Darvin 293 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: Ham after just two seasons. Jason Darvin Ham, is he 294 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: the reason the Los Angeles Lakers fell to the ragining 295 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: NBA champion Denver Nuggets. I know where you stand, but 296 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: I'm trying to set you up more dramatically. But the 297 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: floor is yours two seasons. Darvin Ham is out after 298 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: making the Western Conference finals in year one. 299 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean, of course he's at fault. He only he 300 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: didn't score in the series, that is true. He gave 301 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: them no points. I mean no points, no rebounds, no steals, nothing. 302 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean he didn't turn the ball over at least, 303 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: but that's about the only passe didn't make a free throw. Yeah, 304 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: that's right. Like, clearly he's at fault. He gave them 305 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing on the floor. Listen, was Darvin Ham a 306 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: great coach? I mean I doubt it. I don't think so. 307 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you read through. 308 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: How many guys are two years into a tenure, you know, right, 309 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: I mean. 310 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: That's I mean, he was new, he was new, he 311 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: was he got them. You know, they were in the 312 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: playoffs last year and maybe the finals, yeah exactly, and 313 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: then this year they get back again. They had a 314 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: better record this year than they did last year. He 315 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: inherited a situation where yeah, you had Lebron James and 316 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, but you also had some other things that 317 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: had to be worked out and brought Polenka did what 318 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: he could at the trade deadline. But I love how 319 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: none of this falls on Polenka, none of it falls 320 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: on Lebron, none of it falls on any of the players. 321 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: It all has to fall on Darvin Ham. He becomes 322 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: your scapegoat. He becomes You're easy out. You had articles 323 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: being written within like twenty four hours of the Lakers losing, 324 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: just all these things that no one knew about what 325 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: was happening behind the scenes with Darvin Ham's, Like, wonder 326 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: where those came from. Wonder where there was the credit 327 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: from Dsham, Sharania and everybody at the athletic. 328 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: I tried to read that article this morning. It was 329 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: like five thousand words released. 330 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: Very long, and it was all burying Darvin Ham. 331 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you know, it's amazing how quickly 332 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: Sham's worked on that article to get it out within 333 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: hours of the Lakers season ending. By the way, speaking 334 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: of season ending, should mention really quick Game seven in 335 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: the NHL playoffs, Boston does win two to one in overtime. 336 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: They advance. 337 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: Didn't mean to cut you off, Jason, but yeah, it 338 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: was incredible. How how Shams must be the quickest typeer 339 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: ever because he got that bad boy out, oh, within 340 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: probably an hour or two of the Lakers season ending. 341 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: Not only that, I mean he had all sorts of 342 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: sources and quotes. I mean, my goodness, was he working 343 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: quickly or he already had it ready? You know, whatever 344 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: you want to say. But I read the article. It 345 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: was just like man just supported the code read, didn't he? 346 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: And in this case it's Lron ordered to code red. 347 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Because this is just what happens. I don't understand. Like again, 348 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was comparing Darvin Ham to one 349 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches ever. But he barely even got started. 350 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: The Lakers have had six coaches in twelve years, I 351 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: think it is. And you look at him and I 352 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: saw this. I saw I had another video posted on 353 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: the four Letters website and one of their NBA reporters, 354 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: and you know, she's very, very good at what she does. 355 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: The video was about Darbnham didn't live up to the 356 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: lakers high expectations. It's like expectations for what, like how 357 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: many great coaches have they had, you know, since Phil Jackson? 358 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: How has that gone for most of the guys that 359 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: have been there. Lebron's been there now six years and 360 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: here goes another coach out the door, and you look 361 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: at the list of people that could replace him, Tyler 362 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: is the only one with any kind of like legit 363 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: experience that would make any sense. And immediately you see 364 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: that the Clippers want to try to lock him up, 365 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: and I hope they do quite frankly, because the Lakers 366 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: don't deserve Tylo at this point in time. Treat him right. 367 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: So two things on that re member. 368 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: They don't deserve TYLERU and people forget this is that 369 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: I think it was the time they hired Frank Vogel. 370 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: Ty Lou was deemed to be the favorite, and they basically, 371 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: you know, for lack of a better term, kind of 372 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: embarrassed him. I mean, you know, he went in thinking, 373 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: you know, it was gonna be a legitimate, you know, 374 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: hiring process, and basically they I think they only offered 375 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: him like a three year contract, which is kind of 376 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: embarrassing in its own right, especially for a guy that's 377 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: won an NBA championship. And I believe they wanted to 378 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: pick the coaching staff for him, and there was some 379 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: weird Jason Kidd dynamic to it. So, I mean, you know, 380 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 2: first of all, and we'll talk Clippers an hour or two, 381 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: we'll get Monty and to discuss that a little bit. 382 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: But like she's she's rearing to go. It's like the 383 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby over there in the stable. She is ready 384 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: to talk Clippers. But we'll stick with the Lakers for now. 385 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: And you know, first of all, with TYLERU like I don't, 386 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Steve Balmer is not only the richest owner 387 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: in the NBA, I think he's the richest owner in 388 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: all of pro sports. If not, he's in the very 389 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: short conversation and I don't see him, you know, letting 390 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: his coach walk to the Crosstown Rivals in a year 391 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: next year where obviously they're. 392 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: Opening a new arena, they're going to want to put 393 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: their best foot forwards. 394 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: So again, if it's not ty Lou, I mean might 395 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: be talking about boy JJ Reddick, which is certainly a 396 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: conversation for another day. But you know, it's just it's 397 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: just it just amazes me that we're in this cycle again. 398 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: And I think you did bring up a pretty interesting 399 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: point is that I think a lot of it. Listen, 400 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say, because I'd say 401 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: it falls more. I think some of it. First of all, 402 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: I don't think Darvin Ham is to blame. Bottom line, 403 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: let me just get that out, like, it's just you 404 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: look at it. This is a guy that made the 405 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals in year one. By the way they 406 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: played the Nuggets tough, they easily could have won any 407 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: of those games. 408 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 3: And the Nuggets are really good, even though they lost 409 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: to Night. 410 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: So that's one, but two, it's it's also like the 411 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets had better players at four positions on the court, Younger, 412 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: more dynamic, more talented, you know, uh whatever, And so 413 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: it's like, I just you know, you can't blame Darvin Ham. 414 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: You can't really blame the play I just I don't know. 415 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: It's just one of those it's which is so frustrating 416 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: and it's so obnoxious, and it's the same cycle over 417 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: and over and over again with Lebron, and it goes 418 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: back to Jason. It really goes back to I remember 419 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: you and I were on air two weeks ago when 420 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 2: the Lakers lost to the Nuggets in Game one, and 421 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: it's just I just don't think Lebron can carry you 422 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: for forty eight minutes in the playoffs at this age. 423 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: But there's never gonna be a scenario where Lebron is 424 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: not the best player on his team, at least not 425 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: one that I see. And so it's this chicken in 426 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: the egg thing of you can only get so far 427 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: with Lebron, but Lebron is never the fall guy. But 428 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: he's never gonna allow you to bring in somebody else 429 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: to kind of overshadow him. 430 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: I'm just rambling at this point, but it's just a frustrating. 431 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's true. We can get de 432 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: Manci here right after I say this, and then maybe 433 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: we can discuss this, because this will set us up 434 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: for where we can go. But the problem for Darvinham 435 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: or the next Darvin Ham is that if you win, well, 436 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: of course you won, you had Lebron James. And if 437 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: you lose, how could you lose? It's on you. It's 438 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: on you. If you lose, it's all credit to Lebron. 439 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: If he wins almost every time, it's him and Anthony Davis. 440 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: And look, the players are the ones that should get 441 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: the credit. But if I'm gonna give him the credit, 442 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: then I'm going to give him the blame too. No, Ham, 443 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure does deserve part of the pie, right Like 444 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: sure you read some of you read some of the 445 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: leaks and stuff. Some of it makes sense with some 446 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: of the switches and some of the lineup changes and 447 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: being a little bit stubborn here and there and all 448 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: of that. Like, yeah, some of that does play in. 449 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: But at what point does Lebron or anybody wearing a 450 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: Lakers uniform actually take some level of responsibility for the 451 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: fact that they weren't very good in the series they 452 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: blue leads three or four different times. That's not on 453 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: Darvin Ham. It's not all on a lack of adjustments 454 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: and all this. It's on a lack of execution and 455 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: a lack of team synergy. It's a lack of complimentary 456 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: basketball players that match with the Denver Nuggets. A lot 457 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: of times when you get into a long series, it's 458 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: about matchups, and we talked about this at the beginning 459 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: of that series erin, this was not a good matchup 460 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: for the Lakers at all, which is why we talked 461 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: earlier about how Minnesota kind of matches up well with Denver. 462 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: For Minnesota, like Minnesota actually can beat them because of 463 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: how they're constructed, whereas the Lakers can't. 464 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: Zeroed out and you know, the Lebron getting all the 465 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: credit in under the blame I mean that's something that's 466 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: his oldest time. 467 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: I mean that's stuff that's been talked about dating back. 468 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: To the Miami days and dating back to the Cleveland days, 469 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: and why a lot of guys haven't wanted to play 470 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: with them. And now you're seeing it. And I think 471 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: what becomes interesting is what happens next. Because I am 472 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: not sold. This is a great job. So we'll discuss 473 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: that next. Aeron Torres Jason Martin here on Fox Sports Radio. 474 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: Before we do, though, let's toss it over the news desk. 475 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: No Steve de Seger tonight as Maazi Belanio's Yeah. 476 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 5: Hi guys, hoppy Saturday. 477 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: Happy Saturday. 478 00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 5: Here we are. 479 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, what hour is this on air for you? 480 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 5: I'm not I don't even know what day. I just 481 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 5: said Saturday, but I'm not sure. Aaron. I think I'm 482 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: just going to sleep here tonight. 483 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: Okay. The Clippers still in the playoffs. 484 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 5: Really really, we just. 485 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: Chopped on shopped on. 486 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: I said what day it was. I'm getting a. 487 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 5: Little no no, no, no no. We're fighting after this. 488 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 5: We're fighting during the break. 489 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: I think you just want somebody to fight with. 490 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 6: I do want to fight someone. I wanted to fight 491 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 6: carry Rhodes earlier today. 492 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 5: Now I'm going to fight. 493 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 6: You, hey, really quick, Jmar fight Oh I would punch 494 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 6: him in the face. 495 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: Jabar. 496 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: What is your take on the Chettholme, Grin, Shay Gilles Alexander. 497 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 5: Oh, yes, what is your take on that? 498 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: The commercial? Yes? 499 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, have you seen? I mean, you know what we're 500 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: talking about? 501 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: Right, I'm not sure I do? Actually what all we want? 502 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 6: No? 503 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 5: Wait, Mary, we do have it in the system. 504 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 6: I don't know if Mary has it right away, but 505 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 6: we can find it. 506 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 5: It's in the system. Give us a second. But we're 507 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 5: gonna have to come back to this. 508 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: So that I was driving and I heard a heated 509 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: debate between Carrie Rhodes, Moncy Belanos and Chris Purfett. 510 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: I believe was involved as well in this. 511 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna need to see I mean, that's 512 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: my team. I can't believe. I don't know this, but I'm. 513 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: The commercial that plays every single commercial break. 514 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: Dude, I don't watch commercial breaks, and especially when you 515 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: think about you know, I've got a six week old 516 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: and a three year old in this house. I barely 517 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: even know that basketball is on right now. 518 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 5: I barely even know that basketball is on. I love that. Actually, 519 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 5: I'm very jealous. 520 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 6: I wish I didn't know basketball was on because again 521 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 6: the Clippers lost. Okay, let's talk about what's going on 522 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 6: in the world of sports, like the Bruins, who just 523 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 6: beat the Maple Leaves in Game seven of the NHL Playoffs. 524 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 5: Two to one was the final score. 525 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: This game was pretty much scoreless up until about eight 526 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 6: minutes to go, and then within ninety seconds they each scored. 527 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 6: Went to extra time. Boston wins it two to one. 528 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 6: They advanced to the next round of the NHL Playoffs. 529 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 6: Speaking about the in the NBA, we had Game one 530 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 6: of the semi finals in the Western Conference and it 531 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 6: was Anthony Edwards who dropped fourty three points. He put 532 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 6: on a show in Denver. Timberwolves to tick la la la, 533 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 6: It's been a long day. Timberwolves took Game one from Denver. 534 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 6: One oh six to ninety nine was the final score. 535 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 6: Six Man of the Year, you guys were just talking 536 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 6: about at nazried sixteen points off the bench, fourteen of 537 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 6: those came in the fourth quarter. Nicolo Jokich thirty two, 538 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 6: eight and nine was his final stat line after missing 539 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 6: two plus seasons with a knee injury. Chicago bullsguard Lonzo 540 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 6: Boss exercise at twenty one point four million dollar player 541 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 6: option on his contract for the twenty twenty four twenty 542 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 6: to twenty five season. 543 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 5: In Major League Baseball. 544 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 6: It is a Max Monsy night three homers for the Dodgers. 545 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 6: Shoeotani also homerd so he officially broke Dave Roberts record 546 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 6: for the most home runs by a Dodger who was 547 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 6: born of Japanese descent. 548 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: So he officially he. 549 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: Was just born in Japan. Or how does this work? 550 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: I saw this stat and I heard you say. 551 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: I kind of baffled. 552 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 6: Also, yeah, you know, I don't think he was born 553 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 6: in Japan, but I saw that line. He's definitely Japanese. 554 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 6: Dave Roberts. His dad was in the military, and so 555 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 6: that so he is one hundred percent of Japanese. 556 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 5: I saw that stat line, but I didn't know he 557 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 5: was born there. 558 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 6: But he's definitely col Wikipedia according to wikipsie, Yeah, his 559 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 6: dad was in the military, and so there we go. 560 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 6: Dave Roberts no longer the franchise holder for the Dodgers 561 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 6: of the most home runs. They're currently beating the Braves 562 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 6: eleven to two. It's the top of the ninth inning. 563 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 6: Some of the games that have already wrapped up. There's 564 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 6: a lot of scoring today in baseball. Fellas the Padres 565 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 6: over the Diamondbacks thirteen to one, the Rangers over the 566 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 6: Royals fifteen to four, the A's over the Marlins twenty 567 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 6: to four. 568 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 5: What was in the water today? 569 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: Hey, we do have the commercial? Do we want to do? 570 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: Are we ready? Are we ready? Okay? Thank you, Let's 571 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 5: do it. I mean, isn't that amazing? And the point 572 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 5: of this is that I was so much hate for 573 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 5: this commercial. Irritates it. 574 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: It's just it's just they just have played it. And 575 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: they started this during the NCAA tournament. This one and 576 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: the Perkins Carmelo, Yeah, that one. 577 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: That one irritates me. 578 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 3: When does the suit end and park begin? 579 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: The worst part about that is, all right, I get 580 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: Carmelo and I get TJ. Ford. One of these things 581 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: is not like the other two. Like one of these 582 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: two of these dudes were stars in college. The other 583 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: one is Kendrick Perkins. 584 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're still playing the playoffs. 585 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's Shay Gil just that's shake Guild 586 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: is Alexander and Cheed Holmgren, And it's just it was 587 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: clever the first like forty to fifty times I saw it, 588 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: and then after that, I'm exhausted. 589 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 6: There's so much other commercials that are so much more annoying. 590 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: I know that, I don't I don't necessarily disagree with that. 591 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jason, if you saw that one thirty times 592 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: a game and you were paying attention, it's it's pretty tough. 593 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: I also just annoys me because neither of them was 594 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: even born when that song came out, and so that'd 595 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: be like me singing Elvis song and like trying to 596 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 597 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: It's just say, I. 598 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 5: Don't know, it's silly. You can't be bothered by landing. 599 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna I mean I would sing the Beatles. 600 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 5: See exactly. 601 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think shake Gildas Alexander grew up seeing Christina 602 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: Aguilera Stop. 603 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 5: It's a popular song. 604 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a pretty popular song. 605 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 606 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: See see I'm cornered over here, Kate Mary mack Yeah, 607 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: Mary mackauz take a time. 608 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 5: And I'm younger than him too. 609 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: Listen, I'm getting bullied over here in a corner. Yeah. 610 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: I just find the commercial very annoying, shade. 611 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: Old curmudgeon tores. 612 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: Just come to my defense, just say you find it annoying, 613 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: even if you don't, I find it annoying. 614 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 5: There the commercials, like the Whopper Whopper commercial. 615 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: That one's bad and I hate that. There you go, 616 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: any jingle if we have a little frustrating this. 617 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 5: Isn't a jingle. This is a Christina Aguilera song. 618 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: They want it then, it was great when Christina Aguilera 619 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: sang it, y'all, just like I wouldn't want to see 620 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: a commercial Christina Aguilera trying to hit a thirty foot three. 621 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: You know, I'll leave that to shake Gilda Alexander. 622 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: But you Christina Aguilera. I here's a hot take. Christina 623 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: Aguilera has exactly one really good song. Everything else whoa, whoa? 624 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 5: No, not how you're doing too much? You're doing one? 625 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 5: Which one? 626 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: Is it in a bottle? 627 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 5: That's it? That's your favorite rich girl. It's literally right there. 628 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 5: I like dirty. 629 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: I will tell you one thing. I will admit, Oh. 630 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 5: No, I do what I'm saying like this, that's like 631 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 5: lasting me almost. 632 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: I really I've raised Mary max eyre W after Christina Aguilera. 633 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: It was you and Carrie bringing it up at about 634 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: I want to say it was about one thirty Pacific 635 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: time I heard you guys talking about it, right. I 636 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: will say this because you know, I'm just kind of 637 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: burned out on sports a little bit, so sometimes I'm 638 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: just looking for some music to listen to. I have 639 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: been on a Christina aguilar kick because of that. Lord 640 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: because no, because I because I'm like driving. 641 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: On something you admit on Fox Sports is. 642 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: So you like the so you like Shay Gil just 643 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: Alexander singing Christina Aguilera, But I'm not allowed to just 644 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: like Christina Aguilera. 645 00:30:59,080 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: Yes, that doesn't even mix. 646 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 5: That's what we're saying. 647 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: Okay, that's sexist that I can't like a woman singer. Okay, 648 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: that's so. That's offensive. 649 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: She's great. 650 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: But I will say, Genie a Bottle is a jam. 651 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: Have you guys? Do you guys? 652 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: Have you listened to the words of that song, because 653 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: it's about something pretty deep and personal when you listen 654 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: to it. And I didn't realize that until probably like 655 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: a year ago, if you listen to the words very closely, 656 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: So that's a that's a commercial break. 657 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: Way to get it, way way to get in the 658 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: fields with it serious. No no, no, no, no no. 659 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: Go ahead and listen to the words during the commercial break. 660 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: Report back to me. 661 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, all right. People are going to be like, 662 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 5: what is he talking about? You just made it someone? 663 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: Do you know what it was like? Do you know 664 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: what Mary? Okay, you know what it is? You know 665 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: what she's singing about? 666 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 5: No comment, Mary knows exactly, no comment. 667 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: Do you know what she's. 668 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna have to look it up because I don't. 669 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: It's a it's a very it's a very special moment 670 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: in a young person, a young maturing person. 671 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: Life. 672 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: Okay, no, how to music? 673 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 5: Cut out? 674 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, yeah, tell you what. We'll come back. 675 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little. Christina Aguilera and Darwinham not together. 676 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. 677 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 678 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 679 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 680 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 7: listen live. 681 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: What a jam? Now? This sound's supposed to sound? Not 682 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: like whatever? 683 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: Shake Gildes, Alexander and chet Holmgen are doing ruining great 684 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: music from the nineties. Fox Sports Radio eron towards Jason 685 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the tyrack dot Com studios. 686 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: Jamart. 687 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: We were talking Darvin Ham. 688 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: I think we can save that conversation for a little 689 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: bit later in the show because I got a creepy 690 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: question to ask you, how did you spend your Friday night, Jason, 691 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: because I think it's it's an interesting I know how 692 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: you know you actually know you? 693 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, okay, yes, yes, yeah, I know. 694 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 8: Yeah. 695 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: Not that I'm like stucking you told me. 696 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah right, So, I mean I was. I was doing 697 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: a couple of different things. But one of the things 698 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: that I did, and this is the thing I've never 699 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: done before, never even considered before. Multiple times during the 700 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: course of the evening on my phone, I intentionally went 701 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: to check a box score amidst a sporting event that 702 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: was happening, namely the Indiana Fever preseason game. I'm not 703 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: even sure I knew that Indiana was the Fever like 704 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: a month ago, but now I do. And I was 705 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: just curious how Kaitlyn Clark was doing in her debut 706 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: and her home debut, and so I just to I 707 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: checked it probably five times during the course of the game. 708 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: Did I watch the game? No, I wasn't even sure 709 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: where it was. I know it was on television, but 710 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: I was otherwise occupied, but I kept checking in found 711 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: out you had. I think I looked she had thirteen, 712 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: and she had sixteen, finished with twenty one. She's like, 713 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: all right, So I caught myself and it's just I'm 714 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: actually curious to see how she is doing. And this 715 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: is kind of what I told you I would do. 716 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: I did. It didn't make me like rush to the 717 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: set to watch the game, but I certainly was intrigued 718 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: and interested in her performance in a way that I mean, 719 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: the WNBA has never like crossed my mind. I don't 720 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: think since its inception. Not because there's not talented women. 721 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: It's just not my cup of tea. But generally speaking, 722 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: this felt different and I wanted to know how she 723 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: was doing. And I think that that is relevant because 724 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I was the only one very interesting. 725 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I never really got into the 726 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark fever, no pun intending. You know, I certainly 727 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: got into it as we got deeper into the tournament. 728 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 3: Enjoyed the LSU game. 729 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: I thought you phenomenal in the LSU game and the 730 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: Yukon game, and even the South Carolina game that they lost. 731 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: So I'm not the right person to ask, but this 732 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: goes back to an important question that we asked during 733 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 2: that tournament run, which is that And I've said, you know, 734 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: I don't think the interesting conversation is about what she 735 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: did in college at a certain point. She broke every record, 736 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: great ratings, all that. I thought the interesting thing was 737 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: could she be the women's version of Magic Johnson and 738 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: Larry Bird who were part of the highest rated ever 739 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: college men's college basketball game, which then equated to them, 740 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: you know, changing viewing habits in the NBA, And so 741 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: I am curious. You know, you sent me the article 742 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: before we went on air about people complaining that the. 743 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 3: Debut game for Angel Reese was not streamed. 744 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm not here to play victimhood Olympics 745 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: with the with the WNBA, but I do think it 746 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: speaks to there appears to be more people interested in 747 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: the preseason, just like there were more people interested in 748 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 2: the draft, just like there were a ton of people 749 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: interested in the college basketball regular season and postseason for 750 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 2: the women. So to me, I think it's interesting and 751 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: I think it's a story to follow, and I think 752 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 2: there's a lot of layers to it, Kay, and Clark's 753 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: got to be good. 754 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: She's got to be I think relevant obviously. 755 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 2: If an Angel Reese, if a Camilla Cardoza who was 756 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: playing against Angel Reese last night, if they're good, I 757 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: think it helps. 758 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 3: But it's one I don't have an answer to. I don't. 759 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 2: I'm just more intrigued by anything. As Like I said, 760 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: does she change viewership habits? You know, I think to 761 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: your point, she's changed some awareness habits. You were aware 762 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 2: that she was playing. You wanted to see what she 763 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: was doing. Now I'm curious if it has an effect 764 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: once that season starts in the ratings and everything. 765 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't want to labor it and like 766 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, beat the horse or anything like that. I 767 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: don't know that it's a dead horse at this point. 768 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, a WNBA has been a punching back 769 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: for a long time. It's never gonna be a league 770 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna tune into those that like it. I'm 771 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: not gonna begrudge you for that, but I don't think 772 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: that this is going to change viewing habits. I do 773 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: think that the way that you phrased it is right, 774 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: like interest or curiosity or something to that degree paying 775 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: attention a little bit. Maybe if it's just through articles 776 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: and highlights or something, I could see that. I just 777 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: don't think that it has any kind of I don't 778 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: think that it's something that can be transitioned to a 779 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: bunch of other players. I think there is something unique 780 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: about this and the way that it was built over 781 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: the last couple of years that makes it intriguing in 782 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: a different way. And maybe I'm wrong, and I'm certainly 783 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily saying I hope that I am right. I 784 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: just I'm skeptical that there's anything past the Caitlin effect here, 785 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: even though boy are they going to try everything in 786 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: their power to do that. I don't mean the league 787 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: the league should be doing that, but those that have 788 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: some investment on the television side, I be writing a 789 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: lot of articles about all these other women that you 790 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: should be paying attention to alongside Caitlin Clark. Just don't 791 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: think that that's gonna land. 792 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 6: Well. 793 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that sets up the interesting conversation 794 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: that we had previously, which you brought up a great point, 795 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: which is that the Caitlin Clark story wasn't really just 796 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 2: about Kaitlyn Clark. It was the fact that, you know, 797 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 2: you beat South Carolina in the Final four. South Carolina's undefeated, 798 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: going from back to back national championships. Then you lose 799 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: to LSU with the Angel Reese back and forth, you know, 800 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark tonks ree, Andre Rees taunts her, whatever. Then 801 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: you have the full season follow up where all of 802 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: those main characters are back. Don Staley's back, Kim Moulke's back, 803 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: Angel Reese is back, Caitlin Clark is back, and. 804 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 3: You know, and we'll see. 805 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 2: But one, I obviously don't think like Angel Reese is 806 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: going to become I don't think she's the type of 807 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: player that will become like a prominent rival of Caitlin Clarks. 808 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 2: I mean, she was the seventh pick in the draft, 809 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 2: so that kind of tells you very good pro, probably 810 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: not a superstar. 811 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 3: So I'm with you is I think there will be intrigue. 812 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 2: I think certainly if Kate Caitlin Clark continues to have success, 813 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: she will be a focal point. But as you said, 814 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 2: and as I'll say as well, I'm just not sure 815 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: that it has a trickle down effect where all of 816 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 2: a sudden, we're interested in the entire league or a 817 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: bunch of other players outside of Camclark. 818 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, I mean, and I think that's okay. 819 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: And we'll see and there's gonna be some that are 820 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: that will be invested in it and good for the 821 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: league whoever they're able to draw out of this. The 822 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: Caitlin side of this has me interested just to see 823 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: how it goes, to see to see whether or not, 824 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: to see what the story becomes as she goes into 825 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: the into this phase. And I, you know, I don't 826 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: think it's a bad thing that people like me are 827 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: now paying attention to one person at the very least. 828 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark. 829 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: By the way, one more preseason game this coming week 830 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: and then she opens her w NBA career against the 831 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 2: Connecticut's Sun. May fourteenth, Fox Sports radio eritors Jason Martin, 832 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreq dot Com Studios, Will come Back, 833 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 2: will continue the conversation on the NBA playoffs. 834 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 3: Los Angeles Clippers lose last night. What's next? Fox Sports 835 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: are you? 836 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com Studios. 837 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 3: Tireck dot Com. 838 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there and unmatched election, fast free shipping, 839 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers 840 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: tirerec dot com. The way tire buying should be by 841 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: the way to go back to last hour. I'm on 842 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: YouTube right now and one of my suggested playlist songs 843 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: is a Christina Aguilera song. So if you thought I 844 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 2: was making up me being on a Christina Aguilera kick, 845 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: get another thing coming to you. 846 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: But Jason'd some research. By the way, did. 847 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 3: You know that that was what that song was about? 848 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: What? 849 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 850 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: It makes sense now, yeah it does well, you know listen. 851 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: I mean so I think it came out in ninety 852 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: seven something like that. I would have been twelve years old. 853 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: I just like the way it sound. It was just 854 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: a jam. It was just cool and you just sing along. 855 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 2: And I was listening it. 856 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 3: Was so random. 857 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 2: Was on at the gym probably about four years ago, 858 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 2: and I was just singing along because it's an easy 859 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: song to sing along to. And I was like, wait, what, 860 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 2: Wait a second, now, I didn't I didn't know what 861 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: she was talking about. And what was funny was for 862 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 2: some reason, probably about a year and a half two 863 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 2: years ago, I was on these Fox Sports airwaves with 864 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: George Reister. 865 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 3: And this song came up. And this is Genie in 866 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 3: a Bottle. 867 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: We were talking about the Shay Gilles Alexander chet Holmgren 868 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: commercial if you missed it in an hour one And 869 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: I only bring it up because we were talking about 870 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: all these Christina Aguilera songs Genie in a Bottle and 871 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 2: so for some reason George Reister and I were talking 872 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: about I said, you know, George, it's about you know, 873 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: a special moment in you know, a young person's life. 874 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: And he's like, no, no, it's not and then he started, 875 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: we played it on air, started singing the song. He's like, 876 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: oh my goodness, Yeah, I did not pick up on that. So, 877 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 2: you know, we're all about the same age. And when 878 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: it came out, it was just a fun song to 879 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 2: sing along too. And then you kind of, you know, 880 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: several years later you kind of figure out what it's 881 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: about you. So anyway, yeah, well that's said, let's switch gears, uh, 882 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 2: and let's talk a little bit about some of the 883 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: other NBA stuff, as Monci just told us last night 884 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 2: or excuse me earlier, Well, I guess it was technically 885 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: last night if you're on the East coast, but Saturday 886 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: night in Denver Game one, the Minnesota Timberwolves take care 887 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: of business against the Denver Nuggets. They win that game 888 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 2: thanks to Anthony Edwards forty three points in that one, 889 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 2: one oh six to ninety nine. Do want to go 890 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 2: ahead and go back to last night, Jason, We could 891 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 2: kind of whip around some of these other stories and 892 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: conversations in the NBA. I find the Clippers thing fascinating though, 893 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: and I don't think that anybody is really surprised how 894 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 2: this ended, you know, we you know, listen, I mean, 895 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 2: Kawhi has always hurt, Paul George never seems to come 896 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: up big in the playoffs. You and I none, neither 897 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 2: of us are fans of the of the James Harden 898 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: experience pretty much anywhere, but Los Angeles Clippers on Saturday night. 899 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 2: They end up on Friday night, excuse me, they end 900 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: up losing to the Dallas Mavericks. The series is over 901 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: and now this team that you know, there was so 902 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: much hype. I was telling you, Jason before we got 903 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: on air. Kawhi actually signed with the Clippers on my 904 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 2: wedding night. And that was the same night that Paul 905 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 2: George got traded. And I remember it was just a 906 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 2: huge thing and everybody at the wedding is kind of 907 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 2: looking at their phones and what's going on, And oh 908 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 2: my god, we didn't even know Paul George was available. 909 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 2: And Kauie at that time was coming off the NBA 910 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 2: Finals win with the Toronto Raptors. And you think it's 911 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 2: this thing that has changed the Clippers franchise forever, Well 912 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 2: we are now. What is this year one, two, three, 913 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 2: four five? This is year five of the Kawhi experience. 914 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 2: They made a little bit of a run post bubble, 915 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 2: but the last three seasons have not gotten out of 916 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: the first round of the playoffs, and it has largely 917 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 2: been a forgettable, frustrating debacle of a situation with the Clippers. 918 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, you have a lot of talent there, 919 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: but you also have a lot of talent that does this, 920 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: and you laid it out. I actually think Harden's been 921 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: better for them than I thought he was going to be. 922 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: But you get to the playoffs and this is what 923 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 1: you get from James Harden. It's what you've gotten from 924 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: James Harden pretty much his entire career. This is why 925 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: I said I would never buy into him until I 926 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: actually saw him win a championship. I wouldn't think he 927 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: could do it. Maybe he could win a second one 928 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: if I saw him win one, but he's gonna have 929 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: to win one for me to think he can win one. Kawhi, 930 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: I mean what he did in Toronto. Notwithstanding he's kind 931 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: of aloof, he can be a little bit unreliable. When 932 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: they did the Gone Fishing on TNT, he had a 933 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: like leg cast on in the can coon shot, So 934 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean they mock it because it's a thing. And 935 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: then you've heard the playoff Paul George thing and at 936 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: moments this has happened, you know where he has stepped 937 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: in and stepped up, but he's never won anything either. 938 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: So really the most accomplished guy on the floor for 939 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: them outside of Kawhi when he is there, is Tyder Lou. 940 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: Like Lou actually has some hardware behind, you know, as 941 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: a player and as a coach, behind everything that's going on. 942 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: So it's just it's a team that is made up 943 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: of really talented pieces, but not talented pieces that have 944 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: proven out to be clutch and big time situations or 945 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: at the very least available for you in all the 946 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: most clutch situations. That being a health thing. 947 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 2: Maazi do you want to hop in and share. I 948 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 2: know you've been on air since basically you know, the 949 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 2: dawn of time here. But Manzi is a big Clippers fan. 950 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: She did four hours with Carrie Rhodes earlier in the day. 951 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 2: But as a Clippers fan is somebody who watches pretty 952 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 2: much every game. What was your takeaway last night and 953 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 2: also the series as well? 954 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, I, as I said earlier today, this was one 955 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 6: of the most annoying losses that I've experienced as a 956 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 6: Clippers fan. 957 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 5: And there's plenty that. 958 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 6: You know, we could talk about all the three ones 959 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 6: that we were up and ended up losing the series, Yeah, 960 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 6: those hurt, but this one was really annoying. And that's 961 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 6: the word because it just felt like they didn't care. 962 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 6: It felt like they weren't trying. It felt like they 963 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 6: did not know that it was win or go home. 964 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 6: And watching your players look like they don't care is 965 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 6: really frustrating. 966 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 7: You know. 967 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 6: It's like we can mention the Lakers. The Lakers, Yeah 968 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 6: they lost, but many they were in it. They tried 969 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 6: and they wanted it. Other issues happened where they let 970 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 6: Leeds go, but like they were in it and they 971 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 6: wanted to be there. 972 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 2: Seventy six ers, absolutely the same thing. Yeah, they lost, 973 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 2: but it was competitive. 974 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 5: It was competitive. 975 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 6: And then the Clippers like were really good in game 976 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 6: one and they give you this hope that, oh, it's 977 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 6: going to work out. Then Kawhi Leonard comes into the 978 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 6: mix when I don't think he should have played game two. 979 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 6: Definitely should not have played Game three. But I don't 980 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 6: understand how that just changed the whole momentum of things. 981 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 6: And five games five and six, it was like, y'all. 982 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 5: Don't even want to be there. You're embarrassing. 983 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 3: But here's the other thing. You win Game four on 984 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 3: the run almost hid the series. 985 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 6: Up, I know, almost losing a thirty one point lead 986 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 6: right Like again it was Jeck goll and Hyde. I 987 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 6: did not know which Clippers team was gonna show up, 988 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 6: and unfortunately five and six nobody showed up. The only 989 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 6: players that showed up the entire series were Norman Powell 990 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 6: and Russell Westbrook, who was struggling. He was emotional because 991 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 6: after Game one he struggled and he was, you know, 992 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 6: not handling his emotions well. But at least it looked 993 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 6: like he cared, unlike everybody else. I just was like, I, 994 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 6: what do we why are we going through these motions? 995 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 5: It's it sucks. 996 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 6: If you were not going to fight for this position 997 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 6: or to be here, then why why do this to 998 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 6: us during the regular season? It was a very annoying loss. 999 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: And why I wanted to bring you in is I 1000 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about the future. And Jamar absolutely 1001 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 2: chime in on this, but we'll start with moncism. Like 1002 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 2: the whole concept was, besides this new era, you're opening 1003 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 2: a new building next year, and and so it's like, 1004 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 2: you know, nobody expected a championship whatever. But but first 1005 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 2: of all, to j Mart's point, there was a stretch 1006 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 2: was yeah, where you're. 1007 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 6: Like twenty five and six or something. 1008 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 2: And you're like, Okay, maybe this team is you know, 1009 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 2: maybe James Harden has changed whatever. B So I guess 1010 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 2: my question now is I think, if I'm not mistaken, 1011 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 2: Paul George is a free agent. James Harden can be 1012 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 2: a free agent or something because of the contract. But 1013 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 2: my guess is you're probably gonna try to run it 1014 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 2: back because you're opening this new arena. 1015 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 3: Am I crazy to say that? 1016 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 9: No? 1017 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 6: I think we're also, Yes, I think we're gonna run 1018 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 6: it back, and not because of the new Arena, but 1019 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 6: because of Kawhi Leonard being extended three years. Sure, so 1020 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 6: I think that's what it is. And the extension of Kawhi. 1021 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 6: You know, everybody's like, oh, so you bring fans into 1022 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 6: the new Arena. Let me tell you there's no New 1023 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 6: Clipper fans. We've just been here. Yeah, Like that didn't 1024 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 6: make a difference. We were gonna show up with or 1025 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 6: without Kawhi Leonard, you know what I'm saying, Like that, 1026 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 6: that's that was stupid to say that. And I understand 1027 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 6: the Steve Bahmer has all the money in the world 1028 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 6: and it could be the National Bomber Association, but I 1029 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 6: wish we could start over, but that's not what it 1030 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 6: looks like is gonna happen, at least with the the 1031 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 6: next two years. 1032 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 2: Well, and that was why I didn't understand that James 1033 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 2: Harden trade. Is like people were like, I mean, you 1034 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 2: need something for the new Arena. It's like, do people 1035 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 2: like James Harden, Like, I mean, I know, there's like yeah, 1036 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 2: like there's kids that follow him on Instagram that think 1037 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 2: he's kind of cool, but like, I don't know, and 1038 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 2: j Mart whant to chime in with your thoughts because 1039 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at this right now. To Monzie's point, 1040 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard is under contract through twenty twenty six, twenty 1041 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 2: twenty seven, Paul George can be a free agent in 1042 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 2: this offseason, and also James Harden as well. Yeah, I 1043 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 2: just I find it. I find it fascinating. I find 1044 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 2: it a little bit sad. You and I j Mart talked 1045 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 2: last week about the Suns, how they really have no 1046 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 2: other real options. The Clippers are, you know, they they 1047 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 2: could go in a different direction. But to Monzi's point, 1048 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 2: if you have Kawhi Leonard under contract for three more years, 1049 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 2: you're not gonna just blow it up. I just think 1050 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: it's sad and like, I don't really know what else 1051 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: there's to really add, you know. 1052 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean when I was on with Arnie, that was 1053 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: sad enough. But when I was Arney Game one to 1054 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: come back, the whole thirty one point debacle, but they 1055 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: end up winning the game, I said, Man, if you're Dallas, 1056 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: how bad do you feel right now? Like, yes, the 1057 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: Clippers blew this big lead, but the fact that they 1058 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: still want it, they should lose. If you blow a 1059 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: thirty one point lead, you should lose. And for them 1060 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: to win the game. I was like, how demoralizing is 1061 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: that for Dallas because they had to expend so much 1062 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: energy to get back into that game and still lose. 1063 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: I said, the MAVs are toast and they should have 1064 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 1: been and the fact that they weren't is a gigantic 1065 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 1: indictment on that team. Like watching that, I sent this 1066 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: to you, Aaron, but I was absolutely blown away. So 1067 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,919 Speaker 1: I go to the Athletic before the game on Friday night, 1068 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: like hours before the game, and there's an article up 1069 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: should Paul George join the Sixers'? Like, dude, your team's 1070 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: not even out, Like you haven't even played this game yet, 1071 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,760 Speaker 1: you like, has Paul George's representatives already told the Athletic 1072 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,479 Speaker 1: he's out? Like, what are we doing here? I've never 1073 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 1: seen I can't recall before a team has even been eliminated. 1074 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: We were discussing maybe Paul George could go join Joe 1075 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: l Embi. It's like, what, Also, what is adding Paul 1076 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: George to your team ever meant when it comes to 1077 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: winning a championship? Like, if you're looking for the missing piece, 1078 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: do we think that's Paul George? In the twenty four 1079 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: to twenty five season, because I'm not so sold on that. 1080 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 3: Dude. It's so funny. 1081 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 2: I have a really good friend who hosts Philly sports talk, 1082 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 2: and I was listening to one of his reaction shows 1083 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 2: when I was walking my dog yesterday and he said 1084 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 2: that exact same thing where you know, his buddy's trying 1085 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 2: to be the voice of RESI. You know, it was 1086 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 2: a two man They're both Philly guys, and his buddy's 1087 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 2: trying to be the voice of Rese. He says, well, 1088 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 2: you know, if this happens, if that happens, what if 1089 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 2: we get Paul George And my buddy's like, Paul George 1090 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 2: is a loser too, I don't want He's no different 1091 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 2: than any you know, cause they're coming off a loss 1092 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,959 Speaker 2: where Tobias Harris has zero points, Kyle Lowry has zero points, 1093 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 2: two of their five starters don't even score in an 1094 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:01,959 Speaker 2: elimination game. 1095 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 3: And my buddy was like, I don't want Paul George. 1096 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 3: He's a loser like the rest of them. 1097 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: So, I mean, he's a great basketball player, but what 1098 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: has he ever gotten done in the playoffs? Top? 1099 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 6: No? 1100 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 2: I mean not since he left the Pacers with Hill. Yeah, 1101 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 2: a lot of playoff ls there. Well, the Clippers are 1102 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 2: officially eliminated. It is official, by the way, really quickly. 1103 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 2: And I think you and I have talked about this, 1104 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 2: mancion air, but I don't know that this new building, 1105 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 2: in this new era is going to go the way 1106 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 2: Steve Balmer wants. So, Jason, I know you don't know 1107 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 2: the setup of LA. I guess anywhere in LA isn't 1108 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 2: easy to get to. But Inglewood, like it'll be next 1109 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 2: to the football stadium. Yeah, like, and the football stadium 1110 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 2: works because it's seven you know, what is it? 1111 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 3: Eight or nine Sundays a year. But I'll tell you this. 1112 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 3: I went to the Thursday night Rams. 1113 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 2: Game and it was a debacle getting down there on 1114 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 2: a Thursday night. And I don't know what I mean, 1115 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 2: I don't I maybe it'll be a success, but it 1116 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 2: just feels like there's gonna be a lot of empty 1117 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 2: game because like I live like I live j Mart, 1118 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: probably about fifty or so minutes five oh without traffic. 1119 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 2: The ain't no way I'm going down on a Tuesday 1120 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: night or a Thursday night or whatever. 1121 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 3: Maybe if I get a Saturday or Sunday ticket, it's different. 1122 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1123 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 3: Mants. Do you think it's gonna work? 1124 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 6: Like, do you think, yeah, the location is not ideal 1125 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 6: in any way, shape or form. I don't know why 1126 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 6: that was the place that he selected, but in all honesty, 1127 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 6: this guy has the most money, so he's like not 1128 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 6: worried about it. 1129 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 2: It's just a tax right off for him, for real, 1130 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 2: for real, Like, I just think it's hilarious that it's like, well, 1131 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 2: hey man, we had to go get James Harden to 1132 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 2: sell tickets really like ridiculously going to be your ticket seller. 1133 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 6: That was the whole thing. It's like, again, we're not 1134 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 6: getting new Clipper fans. Yeah, Like there's seven of us 1135 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 6: and we've been around the entire time, you know, like 1136 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,720 Speaker 6: we didn't get randomly number eight because of the beard. 1137 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 2: Well no, and I did think that, you know, the 1138 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,280 Speaker 2: Kauhi stuff when it had and I mean what was exciting. 1139 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know Lakers fans. 1140 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 6: You know, we didn't pull any Laker fans to the Clippers. 1141 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,479 Speaker 5: If anything, we upset them. 1142 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:08,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1143 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 2: No, I just think about like our buddy Rob Gara 1144 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 2: always jokes about that like, oh, like, oh Clippers are 1145 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 2: going to take over the city and has had zero 1146 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 2: impact it all so exactly anyway, all right, Fox Sports 1147 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 2: Radio Era Torres, Jason Martin. Yes, I by the way, 1148 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 2: I just searched it. It is officially confirmed. They have 1149 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 2: been eliminated from the playoffs. So we are done with 1150 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 2: the Clippers until next November when they will give everyone 1151 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,280 Speaker 2: hope for a brief three week winch Ra's. 1152 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: Question, what are you talking about the Clippers? Since you 1153 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: were talking about the Clippers and the Lakers, well both 1154 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: of you. Actually what do you think about Rams Chargers? 1155 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: Because it's the same story. Yeah, we will become a 1156 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: Rams thing. But now you've got the Chargers. But does 1157 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: Jim Harball shift it? Where like a Kawhi Leonard of 1158 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 1: Paul George could not for the Clippers against the almighty Lakers, 1159 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: the Rams don't have quite that much of a foothold. 1160 00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: Do the Chargers have some opportunity with Harball if if 1161 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: they do something because of kind of the magnetic personality 1162 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: that he has in his ability to make headlines, plus 1163 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback like Justin Herbert, do they have a shot 1164 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: to maybe carve more of a piece out of that 1165 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,760 Speaker 1: city and take some of what the Rams have built. 1166 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 2: It's a great question, Moncie. I don't know if you 1167 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 2: have any thoughts on it. My only real thought is 1168 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 2: I don't think there's going to be like a band 1169 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 2: of like die hard Chargers because the thing you got 1170 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 2: to remember bout La, it's such a transient town. Like 1171 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 2: you go out on a Sunday, you know there's a 1172 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 2: Steelers bar that's packed to the gills, like you know, 1173 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 2: diehard Steelers fans. I mean, obviously we see the Rams 1174 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 2: and Chargers games when you know, the forty nine Ers 1175 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 2: are in town and it's seventy five forty nine Ers fans, 1176 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 2: or the Raiders are in town or whoever. So I 1177 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 2: don't really know. I think there will be certainly a 1178 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 2: lot of interest, and I think like at least they'll 1179 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 2: like sell tickets and be like they're not gonna have 1180 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 2: problems selling out. But it's more that's a byproduct of 1181 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 2: being the NFL, Whereas like I think we're gonna get 1182 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 2: a lot of Tuesday night games against the you know, 1183 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 2: the New Orleans Pelicans, where there's gonna be you know, 1184 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 2: if it's a fifteen thousand seed arena, there's gonna be 1185 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 2: six thousand people in the arena for the Clippers. But 1186 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 2: I don't think Harrorball's I think Harrorball's gonna create a 1187 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 2: lot of interest. I don't know that he's going to 1188 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 2: create like a generation of people that didn't have a 1189 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 2: team and now are Clippers fans or we're a Rams 1190 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 2: fan whatever like I that I don't probably see happening. 1191 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 5: I agree with you. 1192 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 6: I think he's going to put people in the seats 1193 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 6: that are just football fans because they're interested, not that 1194 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,280 Speaker 6: they're gonna be Chargers fans. Now if he completely changes 1195 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 6: that program, maybe, but at least he's gonna bring in 1196 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 6: just football fans. 1197 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 3: I agree. 1198 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 2: It's interesting, and yeah, it's an interesting conversation. It's it's 1199 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 2: also just interesting. What a debacle the Clippers are so. 1200 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Sorry Manzierra tours A. Jason Martin broadcasting 1201 00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot Com studio. 1202 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 3: Hey, Jason, speaking of. 1203 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 2: To bacles, Let's go back and talk a little Dion 1204 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 2: Sanders Baby, that is right, Coach Prime chirping it as 1205 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 2: former players, shot said Shad or Sanders chirping it former 1206 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 2: Colorado players. 1207 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,800 Speaker 3: We'll discuss all that next. 1208 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 1209 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torris, Jason Martin, 1210 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 2: Broadcasting and I from the tyrack dot com studios talked 1211 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 2: a lot of basketball so far. By the way, if 1212 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 2: you missed any of the show, can always go back 1213 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 2: and download the podcast available shortly after the show goes final. 1214 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,919 Speaker 2: We'll be off air two am Eastern time. To search 1215 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio weekends. You'll see our podcast there. Jay 1216 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 2: mart and Aaron Torres. So, like I said, talked a 1217 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: lot of football or basketball. Was one story that caught 1218 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 2: my eye this week. I think it caught most of 1219 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 2: America's eye this week, and it was conversation around our 1220 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: old buddy Deon Sanders, coach prime in the Colorado Buffaloes. 1221 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 3: So I think everybody knows the deal by now. 1222 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 2: But basically what was interesting was the athletic a you know, 1223 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 2: a year ago. Look, we all know, but Colorado basically 1224 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 2: ran off a million guys from their program when Deon 1225 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 2: Sanders took over the famous conversation of you know, I'm 1226 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 2: bringing my own luggage and it's Louis and whatever it was. 1227 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 2: I think they ended up with like eighty plus new 1228 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 2: players something like that, and over fifty plus players leave. 1229 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,919 Speaker 2: And so I bring it up because the Athletic did 1230 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 2: a story in which they basically just figured out where 1231 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 2: all of the players ended up going and basically kind 1232 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 2: of interviewing some of them about their experiences positive, negative 1233 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 2: or whatever. Well, it was interesting because one player's quotes, 1234 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 2: player named Xavier Smith, he ended up hitting the portal 1235 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 2: and put out some quotes that were shared by the Athletic, 1236 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,919 Speaker 2: including one where he says, I was actually getting mad, 1237 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 2: like tears coming to my eyes because Bro, you never 1238 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 2: even tried to get to know me. He was destroying 1239 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 2: guy's confidence and leaf in themselves. The way he did it, 1240 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 2: it could have been done with a little bit more compassion. 1241 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 2: So that article goes out and that Shador Sanders is 1242 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 2: obviously dionce On, the quarterback says on Twitter, I don't 1243 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 2: even remember him, to be honest, Bro had to be 1244 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 2: very mid at best. 1245 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 3: So that wasn't good. 1246 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:27,919 Speaker 2: And then after that somebody tweeted out stats of this 1247 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 2: kid who ended up at Austin p and Coach Prime 1248 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: tweeted out Lord Jesus, basically an insinuation of what are 1249 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 2: we even talking about here? And so I bring it up, Jason. 1250 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 2: It was certainly a story that caught a lot of 1251 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 2: people's attention. Both a player but more importantly, a prominent 1252 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 2: college head coach kind of going after one of his 1253 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 2: former players. What'd you make of that whole story? 1254 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: Before I even go there, I actually think being called 1255 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Mid is worse than being Paul terrible. It's true, I'm serious, like, 1256 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: for some reason, it feels like that hurts more Like 1257 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: if you tell me I'm terrible, I can just write 1258 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 1: that off almost about you don't know what you're talking about, right, 1259 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: But if you call me Mid, it's like, I mean, 1260 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: you're all right, but nobody cares. That's true. It feels 1261 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 1: worse like for some reason, when I am Mid, I'm 1262 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: just ready to fight somebody. If you call me Mid, 1263 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight you. You're right. 1264 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 2: If somebody was like, oh, Tours, I mean I listened 1265 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 2: to his show, it's it's Mid whatever, I'd be like, 1266 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 2: oh man, that kind of hurt. 1267 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, if you're right. 1268 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 2: If somebody was just like he's terrible, I'm like, all right, 1269 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 2: I don't really care about that guy or girls a penny. 1270 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 2: But if they're like I listen to me, it was 1271 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 2: just it was Mid, I'd be that would sting a 1272 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 2: little bit more. 1273 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 3: So, that's a great point by you. I hadn't really 1274 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 3: thought of so. 1275 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Like Shador just cut to the bone by saying that, 1276 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 1: dude must have been mid at best. I'm like, oh 1277 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: my goodness, make a phone call, make sure he's okay. 1278 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's do something about this. It's just 1279 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 1: a bad look. The the Prime experience is gonna have 1280 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 1: its ups and downs, right. The problem for Prime is 1281 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Prime doesn't have time for pleasantries and he doesn't have 1282 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: time for like tact and some of those things. That's 1283 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: not how he played, that's not how he was on TV. 1284 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 1: This is just kind of who he is. This is 1285 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: this is sort of the experience that you get with him. 1286 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 1: He's more unvarnished. He's from a time that was more unvarnished, 1287 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: where it wasn't all sunshines and lollipops and rainbows and 1288 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: all this stuff. It was you know, we're gonna tell 1289 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: you the truth and we're gonna try to make you 1290 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: better along the way. I think the hurtful part here 1291 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: is just a lot of what they're saying is true, 1292 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 1: but it still reads badly because it's like everybody that 1293 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: leaves the program, oh he was a scrub anyway like 1294 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: that that's just that's bad. Like eventually, if you're a parent, 1295 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: that's not somewhere you necessarily want your child to go, 1296 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: just because it doesn't seem like the most positive environment. 1297 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: You don't want to You don't want a child to 1298 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: be coddled. You don't want a child be sheltered. You 1299 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: don't want to be You don't want a child to 1300 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: be told they're good when they're not, and then they 1301 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 1: never improve. You want them to grow. And if it 1302 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: takes a little bit of tough love, then that's understandable. 1303 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 1: But there's something about I think that just the way 1304 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 1: it's done sort of in an inconsiderate manner, And we've 1305 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: got to stop doing so much of this stuff on 1306 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 1: social media. I understand that it's now the public square 1307 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, and all this stuff so much 1308 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: gets lost context, nuance, everything gets lost here. Like I mean, 1309 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 1: what Shudeur said, there's not any context. He calls somebody 1310 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: mid like that's like shooting someone's dog like that. That's rough. 1311 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: But I just there's so much of this stuff gets 1312 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: hashed out on there and everything gets blown out of proportion. 1313 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 1: I think this whole story got blown somewhat out of proportion. 1314 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: But I think it is a function of where we 1315 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: find ourselves in twenty twenty four, where when you speak 1316 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 1: critically about someone, you have committed some kind of horrifying crime. 1317 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 3: So I agree with that. 1318 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jason, I actually have a couple 1319 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 2: thoughts to piggyback off of. We'll continue this conversation next. 1320 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,479 Speaker 2: Before we do, though, let's toss it over the news desk. 1321 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 2: Mazi Belanios, what is trending at twelve thirty Eastern time? 1322 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 6: Twelve thirty Eastern time, it seems like I've been awake 1323 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 6: for twenty four hours. We do have boxing going on, 1324 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 6: and I think it's still going on round twelve between 1325 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 6: Carnelo Alvarez and Jim Mungia. So they're going the distance, fellas. 1326 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 6: I'll keep you updated on this fight. In the NBA, 1327 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 6: the Timberwolves took Game one from the Nuggets one oh 1328 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 6: six to ninety nine. 1329 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 5: Anthony Edwards forty three points. 1330 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 6: Carl Anthony Towns after the game he had twenty points 1331 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 6: in the victory. But after the game he was asked 1332 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 6: about the Big three, and I loved his response. He said, 1333 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:55,760 Speaker 6: we actually have a big fifteen. I love that yeah, 1334 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 6: because it's true. It wasn't just them. Three six men 1335 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 6: of the Year nasried off the bench sixteen points fourteen 1336 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,920 Speaker 6: of them in the fourth quarter. But that's such a 1337 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 6: great response from Carl Anthony Towns. After missing two plus 1338 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 6: seasons with the knee injury, Chicago bullsguard Lonzo Ball has 1339 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 6: exercised the twenty one point four million dollar player option 1340 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 6: on his contract for the twenty twenty four to twenty 1341 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 6: five season. Mavericks big man Maxi Kliba is expected to 1342 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 6: miss the rest of the postseason after suffering a full 1343 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 6: dislocation of the AC joint in his shoulder in last 1344 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 6: night's game six went over the Clippers in Major League Baseball. 1345 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 6: Three home runs for Max Munsey and the Dodgers. They 1346 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 6: were all over the Braves at home. Eleven to two 1347 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 6: was the final score. And then show hel Tani with 1348 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 6: another record. 1349 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 2: He swings hits a high drive, deep bright field way tack. 1350 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: It is gone. 1351 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 2: Jo Heltani now has more home runs than any other 1352 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Japanese born player that's been a Dodger. 1353 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: He just passed his manager, Dave Roberts. 1354 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 6: And five to seventy LA Sports on the call, do 1355 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 6: you guys know what's going on with Shoho Tani and 1356 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 6: Roberts and a toy Porsche car. 1357 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: I just saw saw that story. 1358 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 5: He saw that. 1359 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 6: So when they told Showhy that he was on the 1360 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 6: verge of breaking this record, I guess there was like 1361 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 6: a joke in the media where. 1362 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 5: They were like, are you gonna give him a gift? 1363 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 6: Because remember they gave he gave Joe Kelly's wife a Porsche, 1364 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 6: and so the media started this idea and then Joe 1365 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 6: Ananchoe Kelly. Then Shohio Tani went over to Dave Roberts 1366 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 6: and gave him a toy car Porsche. Now that he 1367 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 6: has broken the record, everyone's like, oh, are you gonna 1368 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 6: get my real Porsche? 1369 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 5: He says maybe. 1370 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,439 Speaker 2: He says maybe, But I like how he has eight 1371 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 2: home runs so the record was seven. 1372 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,959 Speaker 5: For the Dodgers. Yes, yeah, I figured. 1373 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: He was a toy Porsche because you know, his interpreter 1374 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 1: ran off with all the mom they. 1375 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 5: Oh really really though. 1376 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 6: The Padres crushed the Diamondbacks thirteen to one, and the 1377 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 6: Mariners blank the Astros in Houston five zero. The Rays 1378 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 6: and the Mets were tied, but Tampa Bay came out 1379 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 6: on top three to one was the final score. Tampa 1380 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 6: Bay manager Kevin Cash franchise record seven hundred and fifty 1381 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 6: fifth win. 1382 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 5: Good for him. 1383 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 6: He got a nice skater eight bath after that, obviously, 1384 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 6: and the A's they blew out the Marlins twenty to four. 1385 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 6: We did have a game seven in the NHL. It 1386 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 6: even went to extra time, but the Bruins beat the 1387 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 6: Maple Leaves two to one was the final score. So 1388 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 6: Boston advances to the next round. 1389 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 5: Back to you guys, Thank. 1390 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 3: You very much, Manzi. Manzi will be back in just 1391 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 3: a few years. 1392 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 6: Oh, Canelo defeats Mungia by decision. 1393 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 2: Just in boxing, Canelo Alvarez has a bad decision. 1394 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, by decision, it went the distance. Okay, there you go. 1395 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 2: Well gain if we get any updates on that one, 1396 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 2: we'll keep you updated. But Canelo Alvarez has one Tonight. 1397 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports radio eritors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the 1398 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 2: TIREC dot Com studios. Again, we'll keep you updated on 1399 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 2: anything that comes out of the Canelo Alvarez fight, as 1400 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 2: that just went final. 1401 01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 3: Canelo wins by decision. 1402 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 2: Get back to Dion though, Jason Martin, and so this 1403 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 2: is one like this whole story It's just interesting to 1404 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 2: me because I just don't have, like I get basically 1405 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 2: every angle of this art of this story. Okay, I 1406 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 2: sort of feel bad for the kid. I mean, listen, 1407 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 2: I think he wanted to stay, but he wasn't good enough. 1408 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 2: I also don't have very much sympathy for college athletes 1409 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 2: in this NIL era. Everybody wanted. Everybody wanted it to 1410 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 2: be a business. It's become you know, high stakes business, 1411 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 2: and you want to get paid in NIL. That's fine, 1412 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 2: but there are consequences if you don't perform. So I 1413 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 2: don't really feel bad for the kid. I just feel 1414 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 2: bad because I think he just wanted an opportunity. He 1415 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 2: probably didn't get it. I'm not like overly offended by 1416 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 2: what Dion did. I'm certainly not offended boy what Shador did. 1417 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 2: I just think he's a kid. He's on social media. 1418 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,920 Speaker 2: You can argue, as a quarterback as the face of 1419 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 2: an organization, is that the best thing for you to 1420 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 2: do is it a good look as you are. Obviously 1421 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 2: you know everything the quarterback does is under the microscope whatever, 1422 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 2: And I think you can argue it's not a great 1423 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 2: look for the coach. But I'm also sitting there same 1424 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,559 Speaker 2: way a second now is the kid's talking bad about Dion. 1425 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 2: The kid is getting out his side of the story. 1426 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 2: The kid is trying to make himself a victim in 1427 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 2: some way, shape or form. The kid, listen, he did 1428 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 2: the interview, so in some way, shape or form, he's 1429 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,639 Speaker 2: trying to make himself a victim. And I do think 1430 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 2: Dion is allowed to defend himself and his program and whatever. 1431 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 2: And it's just one like, I don't think I really 1432 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 2: have like a strong opinion on it now. I think 1433 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 2: you can piggyback all of it to say, you know, 1434 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 2: if you're gonna talk to talk and you're gonna do this, 1435 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,759 Speaker 2: you're gonna do that, and you're gonna you're the coach 1436 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,680 Speaker 2: is basically gonna say the kid wasn't good enough to 1437 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 2: play here publicly. You know, at some point you do 1438 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 2: have to back it up on the field. Four and 1439 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,719 Speaker 2: eight in year one, it was, in my opinion, still 1440 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 2: a step forward from where they were. But you I've 1441 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 2: talked a lot of talk, You've created a lot of headlines. 1442 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 2: Now it's time to back it up off the field. 1443 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 2: But it's just one like, Jason, I know you and 1444 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 2: I are paid on these airwaves to have super strong opinions. 1445 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 2: I just kind of see every side of this story, 1446 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 2: and I'm not fired up and I'm not triggered, and 1447 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 2: I'm not angry. I don't know if that makes me 1448 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,639 Speaker 2: a boring radio if that makes me a mid radio host, 1449 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 2: if that makes me mid, so be it. I just 1450 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 2: I can't get like super angry about the way anybody 1451 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 2: acted in this situation. 1452 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, I just think it's I think 1453 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 1: it's it lacks tact and it does feel just overdone, 1454 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 1: like there's not really any reason to go that way. 1455 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 1: But I mean, the player kind of set himself up 1456 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 1: by saying what he said. Dion wasn't the first one 1457 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 1: to comment. Shudor's comment was the kind of thing that 1458 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 1: a you know, a young athlete or just a young person, 1459 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 1: a young college player or a young college student might say, 1460 01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 1: Like sometimes you just kind of shoot off of the 1461 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 1: mouth and you say something was a dismissive and kind 1462 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 1: of mean. Yeah, it was pretty ugly. I also think 1463 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,160 Speaker 1: in sports this kind of stuff is gonna happen. It 1464 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 1: also just happens in life. I mean, you get used 1465 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 1: to it. These are the kinds of things that happen. 1466 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: Like one thing that you figure out as you get older. 1467 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 1: This is something you don't think about, but you know 1468 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,799 Speaker 1: the person that was in like elementary school, middle school, 1469 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 1: high school that used to you know, torture you or 1470 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,439 Speaker 1: do all these kinds of things, or the one that 1471 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 1: you know sat in the corner was kind of gross 1472 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 1: and all this, Well, they just grow up and they 1473 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 1: continue to be. In most cases, a lot of them 1474 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 1: just are the same person. They're just older. That person 1475 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 1: like that treated you like trash and high school wouldn't 1476 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 1: sign your yearbook, and you go try to friend them 1477 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 1: on Facebook or something like that, don't be surprised if 1478 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 1: they don't respond, or if you like treated somebody terribly 1479 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,600 Speaker 1: and you guys didn't get along, don't all of a 1480 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 1: sudden think, oh, yeah, everything's gone. Twenty years later, like 1481 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 1: everything still sits there. So I just kind of look 1482 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 1: at it and just say it's probably something you'd want 1483 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,800 Speaker 1: to have back. It's not the best look for you 1484 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: if you're should do or it's not the best look 1485 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 1: if you look for you if you're dion. But I 1486 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 1: ultimately don't know how much difference it makes, because you 1487 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 1: know this player generally speaking, I mean, he was mid 1488 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 1: we didn't know who he was. Uh, he had his 1489 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 1: feelings hurt and he decided to go public with that 1490 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 1: and that backfired on him. 1491 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the part is like I just and 1492 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 2: I do think there is Like it's tough because I 1493 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,640 Speaker 2: do think that like Dion, like he is allowed to 1494 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 2: defend his program in his way of doing things. I 1495 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 2: just don't think this was the best way to do it. 1496 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 2: You know, it's tough, right, I mean, and I said 1497 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 2: this to somebody this week, is like, you know, look 1498 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 2: like you kind of just said to lead the segment. 1499 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 2: Is you know, you and I are kind of uh 1500 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 2: front facing people in some way, shape or form. 1501 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 3: You know, we're in a public form. 1502 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 2: We have our opinions out there, and sometimes people disagree, 1503 01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 2: and and you know, like I don't think any of 1504 01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 2: us in this building or in this business have a 1505 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 2: problem when people disagree with something that we say. 1506 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 3: But I'm sure you've experienced it. I know I have. 1507 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,599 Speaker 2: Is that if people don't like something you say about sports, 1508 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,760 Speaker 2: they take it to another level and start questioning you 1509 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 2: as a person, you as a. 1510 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,800 Speaker 3: Human being, You're who you are, what you're about? 1511 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,520 Speaker 2: DA DA D This and that, and then you're like, well, 1512 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 2: you can't just say whatever you want about me, and 1513 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 2: I deserve to be able to defend myself. And I 1514 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 2: guess that's kind of how I feel about Dion is 1515 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 2: you know, he is trying to run a program and 1516 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 2: he is trying to recruit kids, and you know, you 1517 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 2: want to talk negatively, that's fine, but I'm also gonna speak. 1518 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 3: My version of it as well. 1519 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 2: So we're just kind of going in circles on this one. 1520 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:43,720 Speaker 3: Don't think it was the best look. 1521 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,760 Speaker 2: Don't have a problem with Dion defending his program, but 1522 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 2: just not sure this was the best way to do it. 1523 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,599 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from 1524 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 2: the Tireq dot Com studios. We'll come back, and it 1525 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 2: is the segment that has swept America according to Mazzi. 1526 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:04,559 Speaker 2: That's next Fox Sports. Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. 1527 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 2: It is a little after twelve forty five Eastern time. 1528 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:08,360 Speaker 7: Now. 1529 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,600 Speaker 2: If you listen to this show with Jay Martin I 1530 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 2: every Saturday, you know that usually at this time we 1531 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk for de Sager. Disager's 1532 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 2: out gallivanting somewhere. Who knows where so we decide to 1533 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 2: do something a little bit different. Every Sunday with Dan Bayer. 1534 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 2: There is a segment called a cording to Mansi, so 1535 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,679 Speaker 2: we brought in, according to Manzi, here on a Saturday. 1536 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 5: Night technically Sunday on the East. 1537 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 2: Coast, technically Sunday on the East Coast. But whether it's 1538 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 2: Saturday or Sunday, get it. According to Manzi, Chris Taylor 1539 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,480 Speaker 2: is the luckiest guy in the world. 1540 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,839 Speaker 5: The luckiest guy in the world. 1541 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:58,640 Speaker 6: He has been touched by an angel. Chris Taylor is 1542 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 6: batting seventy eight that's right, zero seven eight. He should 1543 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:08,639 Speaker 6: not be on any MLB roster, but lucky for him, 1544 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 6: the Dodgers are fine. 1545 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,680 Speaker 5: They're winning, they're thriving. 1546 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 6: He is so lucky that nobody is paying attention to 1547 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 6: his stat line because again, did you hear me, he's 1548 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 6: batting seventy eight. 1549 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 5: You and I could buy. 1550 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:28,560 Speaker 1: You and I could seven Not that bad o. 1551 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 6: No, that's not it. It's not seventy eight percent. It 1552 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 6: is zero seven a. He is the luckiest guy. He 1553 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 6: needs to buy a car for Andy Paz. He is 1554 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 6: that prospect that the Dodgers brought up about a month ago, 1555 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,759 Speaker 6: who is kicking, but in the outfield taking names. Batting 1556 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 6: average three thirty eight, four home runs, twelve RBIs like 1557 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 6: he honestly, Chrystailler needs to go buy a lottery ticket 1558 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 6: because I cannot believe that nobody is really diving into 1559 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 6: how much he is struggling. He should not be on 1560 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 6: a roster yet he is, and I know he's a 1561 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 6: fan favorite, Lucky Lucky Chris Taylor. 1562 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 9: According to Monsey, umpires continue to ruin the game. 1563 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 6: Oh my goodness. You know, this year, more than ever, 1564 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 6: I have realized how much we need robot umpires, And 1565 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 6: today I feel like that even more. Aaron Judge, for 1566 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 6: the first time in his career, was ejected in the 1567 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 6: seventh inning over a strike a third strike call, and 1568 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 6: he didn't do anything. 1569 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,559 Speaker 5: Guys. If you guys haven't seen it, he. 1570 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 6: Literally just looks at the umpire, maybe says a word, 1571 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 6: but he's literally walking to the dugout. 1572 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,640 Speaker 5: There's no confrontation, he's not yelling, there's. 1573 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 6: Nothing at all that he did and he gets thrown out. 1574 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 6: And this is my problem with umpires and refs. It's 1575 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 6: like nobody comes to. 1576 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 8: See you, nobody cares about you, and you're gonna throw 1577 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,599 Speaker 8: out Aaron Judge in the Bronx when he did nothing 1578 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,559 Speaker 8: except maybe look at you because he disagreed on a 1579 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 8: third strike call. 1580 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 5: That is his right to do that. 1581 01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 6: He was literally walking to the dugout and got this 1582 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 6: is my problem. This is why I don't want umpires anymore. 1583 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 6: Bring on the robot umpires. I'm over this, Ryan Blakeney. 1584 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 6: Nobody was there to see you, not one person. And 1585 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 6: now I know your name, and that's a problem. If 1586 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 6: I know an umpire's name besides Angel Foster, that is 1587 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 6: a problem. 1588 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 3: Well, and this is on the heels of Cording. 1589 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,679 Speaker 2: I was gonna say real quick, it's on the heels 1590 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 2: of Anthony Edwards. 1591 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,679 Speaker 1: That's about to say the same thing until months Fisher 1592 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,479 Speaker 1: being the guy's name, Like, we. 1593 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:28,719 Speaker 5: Should not know these names. 1594 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,760 Speaker 2: We should not Knowing to Monsey, Marris having too much 1595 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,160 Speaker 2: fun back there, sh is I gave her the power. 1596 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 3: Okay. 1597 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,799 Speaker 9: According to Monsey, the Kentucky Derby is the most overrated event. 1598 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I hate the Kentucky Derby with the passion. I 1599 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 6: know that it is a tradition. I understand that, but 1600 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,519 Speaker 6: these horses do not want to do this. They don't 1601 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 6: want to be injected with all the stuff you're injecting them. 1602 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,439 Speaker 6: They don't want to die, they don't want to break 1603 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 6: a leg. And I know it's tradition, so you know what, 1604 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 6: get together in this very expensive event. 1605 01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 5: That's what it is. Is like people just want to 1606 01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:00,679 Speaker 5: go to be seen. 1607 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 6: That's the only reason you're doing this. You know what, 1608 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 6: keep the Kentucky Derby, Go ahead and dress up, pay 1609 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,719 Speaker 6: the thousands of dollars. But why don't you have humans race? 1610 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:09,559 Speaker 1: Do that? 1611 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,599 Speaker 5: Bet on the humans. 1612 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 6: Leave these poor horses alone that do not deserve this. 1613 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 5: The minute they break a leg, they're done. And you 1614 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 5: know that they don't tell us the truth. 1615 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 6: We don't really know what's going on with these horses 1616 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 6: behind the scenes, so I can only imagine how they're 1617 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,479 Speaker 6: being mistreated just for what for you to dress up 1618 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,799 Speaker 6: and bet on them. I'm so over the Kentucky Derby. 1619 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,720 Speaker 6: I don't care how long it's been around and that 1620 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,439 Speaker 6: it's a tradition. We need to move on from it. 1621 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,720 Speaker 6: Just because it's a tradition doesn't mean we should keep 1622 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 6: doing it. 1623 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm over it one d and fifty a month. I 1624 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 3: can move on, Jamar, Have you ever been on the 1625 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:39,240 Speaker 3: Courdier for months. 1626 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 1: No, I almost covered it every month, like everybody around 1627 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 1: here basically covers it. Well, that's why I hear you, Like, 1628 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I lived and went to school in Kentucky 1629 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 1: as well. I know a ton of people that Derby 1630 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 1: Week is a big time thing and all this. Nah, 1631 01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,680 Speaker 1: not really, And I'll tune in for that one and 1632 01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,599 Speaker 1: a half minutes and I did again today. But like 1633 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,800 Speaker 1: when you're showing me all the celebrities and all this, 1634 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't realize I'm old because one of the two, 1635 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 1: like a few of the celebrities they showed, I'm like, 1636 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 1: I have no idea who you are, Like, your name 1637 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 1: doesn't ring a bell to me. I don't. Oh there's 1638 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Jack Carlow. Okay, yeah, I know who you are. Who 1639 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 1: is this Alex person that they showed me at the end? 1640 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 1: And why does everybody have a veil on their hat? 1641 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Who died other than the horses next week? 1642 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. 1643 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,719 Speaker 6: It's like it let people just go to be seen 1644 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 6: when they probably don't even know the terrible things that 1645 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,040 Speaker 6: these horses are going through. It's like if we were 1646 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 6: to educate the masses on exactly what they're going through 1647 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,040 Speaker 6: what's being injected in them and how they die, because 1648 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 6: you can't if a horse breaks their leg, there's no 1649 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 6: way to rehab them. It's very you just can't. That's 1650 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,599 Speaker 6: like the human thing to do. But is this humane 1651 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 6: at all? Like it's not people race and then bet 1652 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 6: on them. I'm over it, over it. 1653 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,679 Speaker 3: That was according to Mansi. 1654 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,919 Speaker 1: That's right, according to Monsey. 1655 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 3: You're fired up tonight. 1656 01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm talking. 1657 01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 3: I've here on an Eastern time. 1658 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 5: H Yeah, I've been here all day, all day. 1659 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 3: Well, by the way, I don't disagree about the Kentucky Derby. 1660 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:05,680 Speaker 3: By the way, thank you. 1661 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 2: I had it on the background while I was doing stuff. 1662 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I actually did kind of miss the race, 1663 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,880 Speaker 2: so I know it was good. Congrats to Mystic Dan, 1664 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,840 Speaker 2: but it wasn't paid too close attention anyway. 1665 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he should retire now never Mystic Dan Bayer. 1666 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,640 Speaker 1: No Dan. 1667 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,559 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the 1668 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 2: Tyreck dot Com Studios, will come back. Thank you to 1669 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 2: Manci for a corn to Manci, and we will get 1670 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,120 Speaker 2: back to the NBA t Wolves win, Lakers need a coach. 1671 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:33,679 Speaker 1: That's next. 1672 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Welcome back. 1673 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 2: Everybody Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Now Sunday in the 1674 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,760 Speaker 2: Eastern Central time zones. 1675 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 3: Errators. 1676 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tireck dot Com studios. 1677 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 2: Tyreck dot Com will help you get there an unmatched selection, 1678 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten 1679 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:59,559 Speaker 2: thousand recommended installers. 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Jay 1686 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 2: mart let's get back to the news of Saturday night 1687 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:23,800 Speaker 2: Game one. 1688 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. 1689 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:26,040 Speaker 1: You know. 1690 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,439 Speaker 2: You and I I think we're fair, but we can 1691 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 2: at times be critical of the NBA, how certain stars act, 1692 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:36,799 Speaker 2: load management whatever. 1693 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 3: I'll say this even before we get into Nuggets T. 1694 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Wolves. 1695 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,320 Speaker 2: Obviously everybody knows by now T Wolves one six ninety nine. 1696 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:45,679 Speaker 3: I was real. 1697 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 2: I found myself really excited about this matchup coming in 1698 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 2: because I think they're I just think they're you know. 1699 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 3: And it's not a knock on. 1700 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 2: The stefs or the whatever's, but like we've seen the 1701 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 2: Steph thing, We've seen even the Lebron ad thing for 1702 01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:03,479 Speaker 2: four or five years now. 1703 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 3: It's like I was just intrigued. 1704 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:06,800 Speaker 2: We know about the Nuggets, they of course won the 1705 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,320 Speaker 2: NBA title last year, but as we discussed an hour one, 1706 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 2: I thought this was an interesting matchup for them because 1707 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 2: of Minnesota size, Anthony Edwards emerging star. Nuggets, of course 1708 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 2: are the defending champions. I just found myself really intrigued 1709 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 2: by this series coming into Game one on Saturday. 1710 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. And it lived up to it certainly. 1711 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, T Wolves kind of exploded a bit late, 1712 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,719 Speaker 1: but it was a game that was very compelling and dramatic, 1713 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 1: and you had big time plays on both sides. You 1714 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,960 Speaker 1: had some crazy athletic stuff coming from multiple guys on 1715 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 1: each team. It was physical, they were battling out there. 1716 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 1: You could just tell that both these teams deserve to 1717 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,400 Speaker 1: be there, and both of them thought they could win, 1718 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 1: and t Wolves not afraid, And I think it's because 1719 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,160 Speaker 1: they are now. I think before I think the problem 1720 01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 1: with the t Wolves in years past is the pulse 1721 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 1: of the team. The fuel that the team ran on 1722 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 1: was Karl Anthony Towns and now it's Anthony Edwards. And 1723 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 1: there's a difference in his mentality from Cats. Not that 1724 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Cat's not an outstanding player, but there's something about the 1725 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 1: personality of Anthony Edwards where that dude is going to 1726 01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,160 Speaker 1: war and you're gonna be with him, and he takes 1727 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 1: you alongside, and everybody on that team I feel like 1728 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 1: plays tougher because of his lead, and I think that's 1729 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,800 Speaker 1: the crucial factor for them. But you're right, like, no 1730 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,559 Speaker 1: longer is it. You know, it's not the boss fight 1731 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,840 Speaker 1: to beat Golden State anymore. It's not the boss fight 1732 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 1: to beat Lebron James anymore. We've got to have some 1733 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 1: new stuff out there, some new blood, and that's what 1734 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,160 Speaker 1: you've got here. The only thing I didn't like about 1735 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,240 Speaker 1: this was going in. I kept reading all of these 1736 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,759 Speaker 1: articles that were this is going to be an instant classic. 1737 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,640 Speaker 1: The whole league can't wait for this. It's like, don't 1738 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 1: media manufacture this. Let this naturally become a thing, because 1739 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,720 Speaker 1: it will be. If this thing is good, then everybody 1740 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,679 Speaker 1: is going to pay attention. They're gonna by word of mouth, 1741 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: by the time you get to about game three or 1742 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 1: game four, everybody is gonna be intrigued by this. You 1743 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,280 Speaker 1: don't have to like brand this in advance. We haven't 1744 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,759 Speaker 1: seen this yet. Let's make sure it's a thing before 1745 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 1: we try to make it a thing. Now that we've 1746 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 1: seen a game, now we can get somewhere because you 1747 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 1: beat the defending champions on their home floor, something that 1748 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 1: hasn't been done in a couple of months by anybody, 1749 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,679 Speaker 1: And honestly, looking at it, if if the t Wolves 1750 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,639 Speaker 1: were to win the series, I don't think anybody should 1751 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 1: be surprised, not after watching this, because there was nothing 1752 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,680 Speaker 1: about this that felt like some kind of aberration that 1753 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,120 Speaker 1: can't be duplicated. This all looks like it could be 1754 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 1: run back in game two, Game three, Game four, and 1755 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 1: just as easily. You know, Yoki is likely to adjust Malone, 1756 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 1: the really good coach. The Nuggets are gonna play better 1757 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,360 Speaker 1: than they played, but the t Wolves are going to 1758 01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,200 Speaker 1: be right there with them the entire time, the two 1759 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,559 Speaker 1: really good basketball teams. And I hope this thing goes 1760 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 1: seven because it'll be a pleasure. 1761 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1762 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,800 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards with forty three points in this game. In 1763 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:11,200 Speaker 2: the game one, win Nasried the sixth Man of the 1764 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 2: Year in the NBA sixteen points fourteen in the fourth quarter, 1765 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 2: including his own personal ten oh run. So it was unbelievable. 1766 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 2: And I think that's my big takeaway Jason, is you know, 1767 01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,080 Speaker 2: first of all, I actually thought of you a little 1768 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 2: bit during this game because one of your sayings that 1769 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 2: you've coined through the years is that there's no such 1770 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,720 Speaker 2: thing as a championship window. It's you just when you 1771 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 2: have the chance, you have to take advantage of it. 1772 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 2: And I was thinking about that because one listen, I 1773 01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,800 Speaker 2: don't think anybody was handing the Denver Nuggets anything, but 1774 01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,720 Speaker 2: I do think we all kind of looked last year 1775 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:49,240 Speaker 2: and said, well, you know, Jokich, Murray, Porter, all these 1776 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,120 Speaker 2: guys are young. They're either in their prime or on 1777 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 2: their way up. But it's funny, right, I mean, you know, 1778 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,719 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray is clearly not one hundred percent. I believe 1779 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,760 Speaker 2: the stat was this was first ever playoff game that 1780 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 2: he's played where he went a half without scoring, did 1781 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 2: not score the first half, finished with seventeen in the game, 1782 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,559 Speaker 2: so obviously had a great second half. I just bring 1783 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,160 Speaker 2: it up because I thought of you, because I think 1784 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 2: not necessarily coming into this series, but I think after 1785 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,519 Speaker 2: the championship last year, you think that this group has 1786 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 2: probably a four or five. 1787 01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,240 Speaker 3: Year window where they can do some real damage. 1788 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 2: Now you look at it, and you know this series 1789 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,679 Speaker 2: is far from over, let alone, you know, years to come. 1790 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,559 Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, that team that looks so 1791 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 2: invincible a year ago really largely running through the playoffs 1792 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,519 Speaker 2: pretty unchallenged, I mean, swept the Western Conference finals, win 1793 01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 2: the finals four to one. Now you look at it, 1794 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,519 Speaker 2: you say, as exactly as you said, Jason is because 1795 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,960 Speaker 2: of the size of Minnesota, because of the bodies they 1796 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,160 Speaker 2: can throw at Jokic, because frankly, Jamal Murray isn't quite 1797 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:57,559 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Like I don't listen, I don't know 1798 01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 2: that I'm ready to hand the series to Minnesota yet. 1799 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,360 Speaker 2: But as I said an hour one, as you just said, 1800 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,760 Speaker 2: there was absolutely nothing fluky about that game one win 1801 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 2: for Minnesota. 1802 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you say he's not quite healthy. I 1803 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,519 Speaker 1: mean I think Barkley said he's on one leg out there. 1804 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,439 Speaker 1: Basically if you look at that, the problem I think 1805 01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 1: that the doubt that Denver's gonna run into in this 1806 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,920 Speaker 1: series is the amount of minutes that Joki is gonna 1807 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 1: have to play because of Depth's concerns, but also just 1808 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,200 Speaker 1: because I mean, he was all that I mean, and 1809 01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,280 Speaker 1: Porter made a couple of big shots for them earlier. 1810 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Porter's gonna have to be good pretty consistently for them. 1811 01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 1: But you look at some of these other guys, they're 1812 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,200 Speaker 1: getting banged around by the size Like KCP, I'm not 1813 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 1: sure this is gonna be a great series for him. 1814 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon's another guy that's got to be good, and 1815 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,439 Speaker 1: he's got to be physical. He's got to use his 1816 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,840 Speaker 1: athleticism and use his defense as well, and he did 1817 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,879 Speaker 1: at times. But I mean, nobody was stopping Anthony Edwards, 1818 01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,400 Speaker 1: not on this night, and we're gonna see how that 1819 01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 1: plays out for the remainder of the series and how 1820 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,240 Speaker 1: they adjust to how they try to attack him. But 1821 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes there's no great defense for perfect offense, 1822 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 1: and that that's kind of what we saw for the 1823 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 1: most part from him. Is he going to be that 1824 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:11,040 Speaker 1: efficient every night? Probably not. I don't think that Minnesota 1825 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,120 Speaker 1: is going to just tear this series apart. But at 1826 01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:18,759 Speaker 1: the same time, watching this revealed some things about Denver 1827 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,880 Speaker 1: that I'm not sure are fixable, yet, Like, I don't 1828 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,759 Speaker 1: think that you can make enough adjustments necessarily to overcome 1829 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,800 Speaker 1: all of this. So can you outlast it? That's what 1830 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,439 Speaker 1: it is. It's going to be a war of attrition. 1831 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,679 Speaker 1: It's going to be a struggle. It's going to take 1832 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,160 Speaker 1: a lot out of whichever team wins it. And that 1833 01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,439 Speaker 1: might be a really good thing if you're the other 1834 01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 1: two teams playing in a Western conference. 1835 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,000 Speaker 2: We haven't talked too much about that yet, but I 1836 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 2: would say this is listen. 1837 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 3: I think the. 1838 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,479 Speaker 2: MAVs, to their credit, taking care of business last night 1839 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:55,200 Speaker 2: in La Okase, obviously with their successful run against New Orleans. 1840 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 2: But I think whoever wins this series, barring you know, 1841 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,639 Speaker 2: any further injuries or whatever, I think matches up pretty 1842 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,559 Speaker 2: well to potentially go to the finals. And I think 1843 01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,040 Speaker 2: that's one thing that's kind of a net positive for 1844 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,719 Speaker 2: the NBA is you know, you and I and everybody 1845 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,559 Speaker 2: that does this has talked about it, but you know, 1846 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,519 Speaker 2: kind of this playoffs kind of being that turning point, 1847 01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 2: inflection point where we're getting a new, you know, new 1848 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,679 Speaker 2: crop of guys. Right, Kadi's out, Steph's out, Lebron's out, 1849 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 2: Kawhi Harden Paul George out and I think you look 1850 01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,639 Speaker 2: at the West and it's either gonna be Anthony Edwards, 1851 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,120 Speaker 2: the rating champ, you know, Anthony Edwards in Minnesota, the 1852 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:36,320 Speaker 2: reigning champ Minnesota, the raigning champ Denver Nuggets, Luca and 1853 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,240 Speaker 2: the MAVs, or this young ascending OKC team, which I 1854 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 2: don't know that I think they can win two more series. 1855 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,720 Speaker 2: But I think even if it's not them, any of 1856 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 2: those three teams either have the defending champions and maybe 1857 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,200 Speaker 2: but a burgeoning dynasty in Denver or two just really 1858 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,840 Speaker 2: dynamic rising stars in Luca and in Anthony Edwards. And 1859 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,840 Speaker 2: I think, even though I know that maybe this year 1860 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 2: it takes a ratings hit, it I think it's important 1861 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,400 Speaker 2: for the league to establish that next generation of guys. 1862 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,200 Speaker 2: And I just think the way that this is breaking, 1863 01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,639 Speaker 2: I don't think there's really a bad team that could 1864 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,599 Speaker 2: make it out of the West for the NBA this year. 1865 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,800 Speaker 1: No, that's right, And you mean you have you have 1866 01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,240 Speaker 1: stars that are gonna be there for a while no 1867 01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 1: matter who it is it comes out of there. You 1868 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 1: got the guys in their prime pretty much on all 1869 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,960 Speaker 1: of these teams. One thing I do want to mention 1870 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,799 Speaker 1: and this is this one's gonna come out of left field. 1871 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,960 Speaker 1: I think I don't think you're ready for this. Oh okay, 1872 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 1: not with our history in the way that we've talked 1873 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:34,280 Speaker 1: on this show. I think we I don't know how 1874 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:38,920 Speaker 1: to say this. Kyrie has actually worked. 1875 01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 2: I don't get it. I was thinking about this during 1876 01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,879 Speaker 2: that series. He's just been quiet. 1877 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's not he's not in the news for anything. 1878 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,120 Speaker 1: Like he's just playing basketball and he's playing it well. 1879 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,599 Speaker 1: I am. I'm almost willing to say I was wrong, 1880 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:58,800 Speaker 1: Like I I can't believe it. But it's working out 1881 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:03,120 Speaker 1: better for him then for Kevin Durant or for James Harden, 1882 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 1: no doubt, Like it's crazy to me, like him and Luca, 1883 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,679 Speaker 1: that shouldn't work. Kyrie's out here cutting an interview after 1884 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,479 Speaker 1: they beat the after they beat the Clippers, saying, this 1885 01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,759 Speaker 1: is a selfless group of guys. This is Kyrie Irving 1886 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about somehow, Like he's just dialed in and 1887 01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,920 Speaker 1: playing team basketball. Like where did this come from? 1888 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,960 Speaker 3: It's amazing. No, I was thinking about that during the series. 1889 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,280 Speaker 2: The opening round series against the Clippers is like there's 1890 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 2: just been no drama no off the court. And I 1891 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,080 Speaker 2: think the other thing too is there's been a focus 1892 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:39,600 Speaker 2: on basketball, and I think no one's ever questioned his 1893 01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,400 Speaker 2: natural not natural. He's worked at it very hardly, very 1894 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,479 Speaker 2: hard clearly, but nobody's ever questioned his gifts. What has 1895 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 2: always been questioned is his commitment to basketball. I mean, 1896 01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,639 Speaker 2: you know, during all the COVID stuff, I mean, listen, 1897 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:57,080 Speaker 2: the vaccine, it's his body, whatever. But I bring it 1898 01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:00,439 Speaker 2: up because there were plenty of other instant and says 1899 01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,280 Speaker 2: where you know, he just wasn't showing up, Like I 1900 01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,160 Speaker 2: just vividly remember there was something that happened and like 1901 01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,880 Speaker 2: he showed he showed up on a random zoom for 1902 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:14,799 Speaker 2: like some town hall meeting or something like during the season, 1903 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:20,400 Speaker 2: and it's just, you know, it's always been it feels 1904 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,639 Speaker 2: as though, and this is here you go. January twelfth, 1905 01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:30,479 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, Kyrie Irving sits on a campaign zoom. 1906 01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:34,439 Speaker 3: Let me make sure I get this right with former. 1907 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,600 Speaker 3: I can't even read it, but it was he was 1908 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:37,040 Speaker 3: on a. 1909 01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:41,639 Speaker 2: Zoom during a game that the Denver Nuggets were playing, 1910 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:46,360 Speaker 2: or that the the Brooklyn Nets were playing at the time. 1911 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,080 Speaker 2: And it's like it just feels like there just there's 1912 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,040 Speaker 2: been times where just doesn't feel like he can like, 1913 01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,320 Speaker 2: like I always say, like it's okay to have interest 1914 01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,599 Speaker 2: outside of like your sport, Like you know, Lebron always 1915 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,519 Speaker 2: says it's more than basketball. But like you criticized Lebron 1916 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:06,560 Speaker 2: for a lot, but nobody questions his actual dedication to basketball. 1917 01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,800 Speaker 2: And I think with Kyrie, there has been a lot 1918 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 2: of questioning about his actual dedication to basketball on top 1919 01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,600 Speaker 2: of all the other stuff, in all the other circumstances, 1920 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,439 Speaker 2: and it's just been like stunning to me just just 1921 01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 2: how quiet it's been. 1922 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 3: It has worked. The Mavericks are playing well. 1923 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,840 Speaker 2: By the way, I remember this, Jason, Remember how the 1924 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,599 Speaker 2: mav season ended last year. Yeah, they had a chance 1925 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,599 Speaker 2: to get in the play in tournament, And I mean, 1926 01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 2: can you say they rested their starters on the last 1927 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,000 Speaker 2: game of the regular season, because you can't say they 1928 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:40,000 Speaker 2: rested with the whole offseason was coming. But they basically 1929 01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,640 Speaker 2: tanked game eighty two to not make the play in 1930 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,280 Speaker 2: to keep a draft pick. And it's like, oh, by 1931 01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:47,720 Speaker 2: the way, I think the draft pick ended up being 1932 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,720 Speaker 2: Derek Lively. He's been pretty good for them this year. 1933 01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,960 Speaker 2: So you go on it on down the list. I 1934 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,759 Speaker 2: am stunned, and I'm with you. I give credit to Kyrie. 1935 01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,439 Speaker 2: We've both been critical, and I will readily admit he 1936 01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,680 Speaker 2: has been He's you know, he's just done everything that 1937 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:03,560 Speaker 2: has been asked of him, and I give him a 1938 01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 2: ton of credit for it. 1939 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's weird, Like I mean, you think 1940 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:10,920 Speaker 1: about that that triumvirate in Brooklyn. Durant not really going 1941 01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,920 Speaker 1: real well in Phoenix, I said last week, and I'm 1942 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,960 Speaker 1: still on record he will not be in a sun 1943 01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:19,760 Speaker 1: j uniform beginning of next season, probably because he's going 1944 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,080 Speaker 1: to force the trade or there's gonna be problems again. 1945 01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,639 Speaker 1: Then you look at Harden. Maybe it was a little 1946 01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:26,640 Speaker 1: too tough there. It's going worse for Durant than the 1947 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,040 Speaker 1: other two guys. It's going worse for Durant than it 1948 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 1: did for Harden, and it's gone a little better for 1949 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: Kyrie than it has for Harton. I think Harden has 1950 01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,840 Speaker 1: been like I said, we said he was better with 1951 01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,760 Speaker 1: the Clippers than we thought, even though he's out in 1952 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:41,519 Speaker 1: the playoffs again. But he kind of didn't cause any 1953 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,000 Speaker 1: trouble or too much either that I saw. But Kyrie 1954 01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:48,960 Speaker 1: has just played basketball and helped out the basketball team. 1955 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 1: And that's it. Like there's nothing else coming from that 1956 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,840 Speaker 1: at all. And lo and behold, what does that also help? 1957 01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,560 Speaker 1: It helps the fact that they are still playing basketball 1958 01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,799 Speaker 1: like they're about to play in another playoff series. Luca 1959 01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,320 Speaker 1: has a guy that he can rely on to go 1960 01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,639 Speaker 1: out there and get forty sometimes if he needs that. 1961 01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,719 Speaker 1: It's just it's fascinating to me because I was sure 1962 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,719 Speaker 1: that that was gonna be a miserable failure, and last 1963 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,439 Speaker 1: year I was right. But boy has not gone that 1964 01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:20,760 Speaker 1: way this year, by the. 1965 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,760 Speaker 2: Way, as we said a minute ago, And you know, 1966 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,080 Speaker 2: I think I'm looking at the odds now the Thunder 1967 01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:29,479 Speaker 2: probably not surprisingly because they do have their own MVP 1968 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,639 Speaker 2: candidate in shake gilges Alexander, and they have home court advantage. 1969 01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:33,719 Speaker 3: They are a slight favorite. 1970 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,559 Speaker 2: But for a one to four matchup, uh one five matchup, really, 1971 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:42,000 Speaker 2: I it is, the odds are essentially even. So it 1972 01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,679 Speaker 2: feels like Vegas feels pretty good about these these MAVs 1973 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,320 Speaker 2: making a run in that series. And again it is 1974 01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,599 Speaker 2: a credit to Kyrie Irving, who has really just focused 1975 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,759 Speaker 2: on basketball and been really, really really good. Obviously, MAVs 1976 01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:01,080 Speaker 2: and the MAVs and the Oklahoma City Thunder are one series. 1977 01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:07,040 Speaker 2: They will tip off here starting on Wednesday or Tuesday night. 1978 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,120 Speaker 2: It looks like they will play Game one in Oklahoma City. 1979 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:15,960 Speaker 2: Denver and Minnesota played Game one on Saturday, with Minnesota 1980 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,120 Speaker 2: winning Game one one. 1981 01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:18,240 Speaker 3: Oh six ninety nine. 1982 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,200 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the 1983 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,439 Speaker 2: tyreck dot Com studios. Why don't we come back, Jason? 1984 01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,879 Speaker 2: Do you want to revisit the big story from Friday? 1985 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,840 Speaker 2: Darvin Ham out as the Los Angeles Lakers head coach. 1986 01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,439 Speaker 2: I'm just not sure who the heck is gonna replace him, 1987 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,599 Speaker 2: and I'm not sure who would want to replace him. 1988 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,040 Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, 1989 01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,760 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Eric Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from 1990 01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com Studios. Remember, shortly after our show, 1991 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,400 Speaker 2: our podcast will be going up. If you missed any 1992 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,400 Speaker 2: of today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. 1993 01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,280 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, 1994 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,880 Speaker 2: and be sure to also follow, rate and review the show. 1995 01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:58,519 Speaker 3: Again. 1996 01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,320 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, 1997 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,120 Speaker 2: and you'll see this show posted right after we get 1998 01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,800 Speaker 2: off Air Jason. We talked now want a little bit 1999 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,760 Speaker 2: about the Los Angeles Lakers needing a new head coach. 2000 01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 2: Darvin Ham was fired on Friday, and we kind of 2001 01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:19,000 Speaker 2: talked about it from the Darvin Ham perspective, basically, should 2002 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:19,839 Speaker 2: he have been fired? 2003 01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:21,759 Speaker 3: Is it really his fault? 2004 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,840 Speaker 2: And of course he made the Western Conference Finals in 2005 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,640 Speaker 2: year one year two by the way, they were in 2006 01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,719 Speaker 2: every game against Denver, but it was just a bad. 2007 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:29,479 Speaker 3: Matchup for them. 2008 01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:31,639 Speaker 2: What I want to do now is kind of move 2009 01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:35,719 Speaker 2: this conversation ahead because we've seen the list of potential 2010 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:39,599 Speaker 2: candidates we talked earlier, tylu I just can't imagine Steve 2011 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,959 Speaker 2: Balmer is just gonna let him walk to the Lakers. 2012 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,760 Speaker 2: Money is of no object obviously to Steve Balmer, and 2013 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,439 Speaker 2: then you start getting into some of the other guys 2014 01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,800 Speaker 2: and it's like, well, JJ Reddick's never been a head coach. 2015 01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,599 Speaker 2: I think Budenholzer would be crazy to take this job. 2016 01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,880 Speaker 2: And it just leads me to the question of let's 2017 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,639 Speaker 2: just talk out what the Lakers are right now. Is 2018 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,680 Speaker 2: you have a thirty nine soon to be forty year 2019 01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:08,040 Speaker 2: old star and I think you can debate if Lebron 2020 01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:09,439 Speaker 2: is even the best player on the team is at 2021 01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:12,400 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis whatever. But you have a forty year old 2022 01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:18,559 Speaker 2: star that you're building around. And I just and I 2023 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,880 Speaker 2: said it two weeks ago, I said it earlier in 2024 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,880 Speaker 2: the show. I don't think if Lebron James is your 2025 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,200 Speaker 2: best player or everything is at the very least built 2026 01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 2: around him, I don't think you can win a championship. 2027 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:28,960 Speaker 3: I just don't. 2028 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,640 Speaker 2: I don't think you can go four series at his 2029 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,200 Speaker 2: age and do what you need to do. So you 2030 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,519 Speaker 2: have a guy in Lebron all that's never happy with 2031 01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:43,920 Speaker 2: the coach. The coach is always the fall guy. He's 2032 01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,639 Speaker 2: forty years old. I don't believe he can just put 2033 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,800 Speaker 2: a team on his back and lead them to a championship. 2034 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 2: And I think it's also worth noting something else too, 2035 01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:55,000 Speaker 2: is that you go back to this regular season at 2036 01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,960 Speaker 2: thirty nine years old, he played seventy one games. Anthony 2037 01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,639 Speaker 2: Davis played seventy six game, which is essentially unheard of 2038 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:06,640 Speaker 2: for him. I just think anybody that has any legitimate 2039 01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:10,519 Speaker 2: options would be out of their mind to take this job. 2040 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:11,840 Speaker 3: I don't think it's desirable at all. 2041 01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:13,439 Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean? I kind of am 2042 01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,760 Speaker 1: with you. Because you're not going to get credit if 2043 01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,720 Speaker 1: you win. I mean you might get you might get 2044 01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,000 Speaker 1: a very little bit of credit, but you're not gonna 2045 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,679 Speaker 1: get much. They're gonna make sure that that credit goes 2046 01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:26,439 Speaker 1: exactly where everyone listening knows that it would go to. 2047 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,240 Speaker 3: How much credit did Darvin Ham get for going to 2048 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:29,080 Speaker 3: the Western Conference finals? 2049 01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? Zero, yep, absolute zero. Was still like the fact 2050 01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,639 Speaker 1: that they can go to the NBA Finals is probably 2051 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,519 Speaker 1: still his fault. But everything that led to that was not. 2052 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:39,840 Speaker 1: Was he a great coach? I don't think so. I 2053 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,120 Speaker 1: don't know that it was a great hire, but it 2054 01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 1: was very early in the tenure. I read the reports, 2055 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,639 Speaker 1: and I read the articles, and I read the leaks, 2056 01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,840 Speaker 1: and yes, there's definitely some stuff there that was problematic. 2057 01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,599 Speaker 1: But to say that all of it is on Darvin 2058 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,320 Speaker 1: Ham is insane. But I think the larger point is 2059 01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 1: the bigger point it is is there a worst job 2060 01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,400 Speaker 1: in the NBA than to coach a team played a 2061 01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,320 Speaker 1: team where Lebron James plays on it? I mean, you 2062 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,519 Speaker 1: think about the laundry list of coaches that he has 2063 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,719 Speaker 1: gone through. I mean he even wanted Spolster out yep 2064 01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,160 Speaker 1: at one point and Spolster's now widely regarded as one 2065 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,519 Speaker 1: of the great coaches ever in the NBA. Just what 2066 01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,680 Speaker 1: he's been able to do and how long he has 2067 01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,360 Speaker 1: remained in Miami. I mean, when you've got pat Roway's 2068 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,599 Speaker 1: seal of approval for as long as he has, I mean, 2069 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:30,760 Speaker 1: you know how good a coach he actually is. Who 2070 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,439 Speaker 1: wants the job, What do you get out of it 2071 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:37,160 Speaker 1: outside of a lion's share, if not all of the 2072 01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:40,920 Speaker 1: blame if it goes south. I mean Anthony Davis, as 2073 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,280 Speaker 1: you mentioned, because he was actually available as much as 2074 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,479 Speaker 1: he was during this season, you could even throw it 2075 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,679 Speaker 1: to that. So it wasn't going to go on Lebron 2076 01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,600 Speaker 1: and look, Lebron played pretty well. I'm not suggesting that 2077 01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,400 Speaker 1: he had a bad season, But to assume that now 2078 01:39:56,439 --> 01:40:00,000 Speaker 1: it's all on the coach is just if I'm Budenholz 2079 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:05,160 Speaker 1: or I've already succeeded as a coach, I don't need 2080 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,240 Speaker 1: this on that resume. If you are one of these 2081 01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:12,320 Speaker 1: other guys, maybe you're young enough that where you want 2082 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:13,880 Speaker 1: to try this, But I mean, you just saw what 2083 01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,800 Speaker 1: happened to Darvin Ham. You don't think that's gonna happen 2084 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:19,040 Speaker 1: to you. I mean, the Reddick thing is interesting to me, 2085 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,360 Speaker 1: first because of selfish reasons, because of what it means 2086 01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:26,120 Speaker 1: to this show if he becomes a coach at the 2087 01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:30,320 Speaker 1: Lakers now, because you're sort of rivalry with him there 2088 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 1: back in the day on X. But the other thing 2089 01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,719 Speaker 1: is just a few weeks ago, I read an article 2090 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,479 Speaker 1: and it was just this unbelievable puff piece fawning over 2091 01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:40,960 Speaker 1: this brand new podcast that's the rage and all. That's 2092 01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,200 Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever. It's just like Peyton Minning and 2093 01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:47,000 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant's detail, but it's even better. It's Lebron James 2094 01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 1: and Jay J Reddick. And I was just like, really, 2095 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,519 Speaker 1: I must have missed a boat on this, so I 2096 01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,880 Speaker 1: looked into it. I haven't watched any of it or 2097 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,120 Speaker 1: heard it, but I mean I read some of that 2098 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,000 Speaker 1: stuff and it seemed interesting, and I like xson O's 2099 01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,080 Speaker 1: and would like to see some stuff broken down, especially 2100 01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,280 Speaker 1: by smart guys, and so that was cool. But for 2101 01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:07,960 Speaker 1: him to pop up in the coaching starts, I just 2102 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,559 Speaker 1: kind of laughed. I was just like, of course they 2103 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,000 Speaker 1: wrote this article a few weeks ago about this, like, 2104 01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:15,160 Speaker 1: of course, because who's picking the coach? We already know 2105 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,160 Speaker 1: who's picking the coach. Did you see the article that 2106 01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,519 Speaker 1: came out middle of the week after him was gone, 2107 01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:24,719 Speaker 1: whereas like the Lakers are going to do everything necessary, 2108 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,760 Speaker 1: including give one hundred and sixty one million the max 2109 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:32,479 Speaker 1: that they can to Lebron and draft Brownie to make 2110 01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,320 Speaker 1: sure that he doesn't leave. So you're telling me that 2111 01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 1: anybody other than Lebron James is gonna be responsible forever coaches. 2112 01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,320 Speaker 1: I just I don't see the upside to go into 2113 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:47,280 Speaker 1: coach there because, as you mentioned, I don't think you're 2114 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna win there, not at the highest level. You're not 2115 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,240 Speaker 1: gonna win a championship there, not against the teams that 2116 01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:54,560 Speaker 1: we're seeing growing out of the West alone before you 2117 01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,360 Speaker 1: even get to the East as well. This ain't This 2118 01:41:57,439 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 1: is not You're not going there to win a bunch 2119 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,000 Speaker 1: of championships. You're going there to become a scapegoat. And 2120 01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:03,559 Speaker 1: if you want to get paid to be a scapegoat, 2121 01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,479 Speaker 1: and you're good with that, that's what you're probably going 2122 01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,759 Speaker 1: to end up with, is somebody like that or somebody 2123 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,400 Speaker 1: who wants an opportunity. What you're not going to get 2124 01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:14,040 Speaker 1: is a season coach who already knows when he walks 2125 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:15,800 Speaker 1: in the door exactly what's going to happen. 2126 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Reddicks stuff is funny to me. 2127 01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,439 Speaker 2: Listen, you know we've gone over the show some stuff 2128 01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:22,200 Speaker 2: that he said about me. 2129 01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:23,240 Speaker 3: Whatever. I don't really care. 2130 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:28,040 Speaker 2: I just think it's insane that he's a candidate for 2131 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:32,120 Speaker 2: an NBA head coaching job because he's very articulate on 2132 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:33,439 Speaker 2: a podcast. 2133 01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,000 Speaker 1: And it's actually too he's actually also. 2134 01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,640 Speaker 3: In the mix for the Hornets. Yeah, I think he 2135 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:39,120 Speaker 3: interviewed for the Hornets. Yeah. 2136 01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,479 Speaker 2: And it's just like it's just amazing to me because 2137 01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,920 Speaker 2: it's like, well, what was the criticism of Darvin ham 2138 01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,599 Speaker 2: Well in game adjustments? This that the other thing? Well, 2139 01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:51,280 Speaker 2: how do you get better at that with experience? And 2140 01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 2: so I'm glad that JJ Reddick does a really cool 2141 01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,759 Speaker 2: podcast where they break down film and he sounds really smart. 2142 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,680 Speaker 2: It's also like, okay, cool, it's the fourth quarter one possession, 2143 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,960 Speaker 2: like you know, And I don't know, maybe there are 2144 01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,639 Speaker 2: good examples. I mean, listen, I know a million years ago, 2145 01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,720 Speaker 2: pat Riley had basically been an assistant for like a 2146 01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,720 Speaker 2: year or two when he got the Lakers head coach, 2147 01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,240 Speaker 2: and he was awesome. I think Phil Jackson had been 2148 01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,639 Speaker 2: an assistant for not a very long time, so it's 2149 01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,000 Speaker 2: not as though it can't happen. 2150 01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:21,479 Speaker 3: It's just like the idea of. 2151 01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:25,080 Speaker 2: Going straight from the broadcast booth to an NBA head 2152 01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:29,160 Speaker 2: coach and like that's the answer, Like like that's the 2153 01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,799 Speaker 2: crazy part to me, Like, like to your point, maybe 2154 01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:36,519 Speaker 2: that's the answer for the Charlotte Hornet's Like young team 2155 01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,439 Speaker 2: needs some juice, you know, young stars, Maybe they need 2156 01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:42,040 Speaker 2: a young coach to go with it. Okay, I could 2157 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,960 Speaker 2: see that, But to coach Lebron James, who, as you referenced, 2158 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,280 Speaker 2: if you read that athletic article from Shams that came 2159 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,080 Speaker 2: out shortly after their season ended, it's like it was 2160 01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:55,559 Speaker 2: clearly just the obvious, you know, leaks from Lebron about 2161 01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,599 Speaker 2: everything that Darvin Ham did wrong. And it's like, so 2162 01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:02,719 Speaker 2: now JJ Redick again, because he hosts a cool podcast 2163 01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:04,840 Speaker 2: and he sounds smart on first take, is all of 2164 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,799 Speaker 2: a sudden gonna have all the answers. 2165 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,519 Speaker 3: It's just so bizarre to me. 2166 01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,040 Speaker 2: And then again, if you're a Mike Budenholzer, you've won 2167 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,559 Speaker 2: an NBA championship, there's going to be another opportunity at 2168 01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,160 Speaker 2: some point that's better for you than coaching a team 2169 01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,680 Speaker 2: led by a forty year old Lebron. James Kenny Atkinson. 2170 01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,719 Speaker 2: I saw his name kind of thrown around. 2171 01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a guy that's gonna work well. 2172 01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:31,880 Speaker 2: He If anyone makes no sense for them, it's him, 2173 01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 2: because he was the guy with the Nets when the 2174 01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,720 Speaker 2: remember Katie and Kyrie. 2175 01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:38,519 Speaker 3: When they signed with the Nets. 2176 01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,800 Speaker 2: Oh, A big part of this was we really like 2177 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:42,120 Speaker 2: some of the stuff that he ran. 2178 01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,599 Speaker 3: And then a year later they just. 2179 01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,360 Speaker 2: They wanted about so they could bring in their guy, 2180 01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,920 Speaker 2: who was Steve Nash, ironically enough, never been a head coach, 2181 01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:51,120 Speaker 2: was a disaster. 2182 01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,519 Speaker 3: It's just such a weird deal. 2183 01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,720 Speaker 2: And listen, I just think it speaks largely to the 2184 01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:01,559 Speaker 2: dysfunction across that entire organization, where you know, everyone's mentioned 2185 01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:02,760 Speaker 2: all the head coaches. 2186 01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:03,880 Speaker 3: They've had through all these years. 2187 01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,160 Speaker 2: I think they've given up too much control to Lebron 2188 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,679 Speaker 2: at his age. It's one thing when he's twenty nine 2189 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,320 Speaker 2: and he's going back to Cleveland or whatever, and he's 2190 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 2: getting you in the mix every year. They're not even 2191 01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:20,160 Speaker 2: close right now, and I just it's just so strange 2192 01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,400 Speaker 2: to me. And again, I just I don't know how 2193 01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:25,720 Speaker 2: if you're an NBA head coach with any future, I 2194 01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:27,599 Speaker 2: just don't know why this is something you would want. 2195 01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just it's it sets you up 2196 01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:35,559 Speaker 1: for B plus level for the rest of your career. 2197 01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:39,360 Speaker 1: There's there's nothing advantageous about it at all. Maybe you 2198 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,639 Speaker 1: can get Doc Rivers because that was a mistake. Maybe 2199 01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,000 Speaker 1: maybe you can get him to coach another LA team. 2200 01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:48,680 Speaker 1: We talked about Bootenholzer earlier, that dude should still be 2201 01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,479 Speaker 1: on the sidelines for the Bucks. That was that makes 2202 01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,519 Speaker 1: no sense at all. I don't know why they did that, 2203 01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:59,040 Speaker 1: but they may have wrecked it possible and I don't 2204 01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,360 Speaker 1: like the term, but they may wrecked a championship window 2205 01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,920 Speaker 1: with that move alone like that. Ever since then, things 2206 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,200 Speaker 1: have gone south for that organization. But there was no 2207 01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:09,479 Speaker 1: sense in getting rid of him at all. He was 2208 01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:13,639 Speaker 1: not a problem there, and the fact that he's tied 2209 01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,160 Speaker 1: to the Lakers just because he's a name that's out there. 2210 01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:18,200 Speaker 1: If I was him, I would be laughing at home. 2211 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, we're good on this. I'm all set. 2212 01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:21,719 Speaker 1: I'll just stay here. 2213 01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:24,400 Speaker 2: I just it doesn't even make any sense to me. 2214 01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,679 Speaker 2: So no, we'll see what happened. Excuse me, We'll see 2215 01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:32,680 Speaker 2: what happens. It has been just fascinating to watch, but 2216 01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:36,479 Speaker 2: I just don't know. And you know, Darvin Hamm. By 2217 01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,200 Speaker 2: the way, a two year buyout five million a year. 2218 01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:41,400 Speaker 2: Not a bad way to live if you can get it. 2219 01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,760 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio eriturs Jason Martin broadcasting live from the 2220 01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:46,560 Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios. 2221 01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:47,360 Speaker 3: Come back. 2222 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,960 Speaker 2: We'll wrap the show before we do, though, for the 2223 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:56,400 Speaker 2: final time this evening, the final time. Mantzi blanios, what 2224 01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,240 Speaker 2: is trending? Mantziki' here? 2225 01:46:58,439 --> 01:46:58,679 Speaker 7: Hello? 2226 01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:03,120 Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, there's a lot of buttons. I guess maybe 2227 01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:04,640 Speaker 6: I reset one accidentally. 2228 01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,480 Speaker 5: Okay, we're good, We're good. Now, we're good, all right, everybody. 2229 01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:11,799 Speaker 6: Kalelo Alvarez has defeated high Matt moon Gia to defend 2230 01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:16,240 Speaker 6: his super middleweight title. This was by unanimous decision, so 2231 01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:20,439 Speaker 6: Carnelo Alvarez wins against Hig Matt moon Gia. In the NBA, 2232 01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,840 Speaker 6: Timberwolves took Game one from the Nuggets one oh six 2233 01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,000 Speaker 6: to ninety nine. Anthony Edwards put on a show in 2234 01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:27,679 Speaker 6: Denver forty three points six Man of the Year nas 2235 01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,800 Speaker 6: reed off the bench sixteen points fourteen of them in 2236 01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:34,719 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. Other NBA news, Mavericks big man Maxi 2237 01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:36,800 Speaker 6: Kleba is expected to miss the rest of the postseason. 2238 01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,240 Speaker 6: He suffered a full dislocation of the AC joint in 2239 01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:43,320 Speaker 6: his shoulder against the Clippers in Game six on the ice. 2240 01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:46,840 Speaker 6: Game seven between the Boston Bruins and the Toronto Maple 2241 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:50,240 Speaker 6: Leaves went to overtime. Boston wins two to one. They 2242 01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:52,920 Speaker 6: move on to the next round of the NHL Playoffs. 2243 01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,360 Speaker 6: In baseball, it was a hat trick kind of night 2244 01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,879 Speaker 6: for maximunth See. He had three homers for the Dodgers. 2245 01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,120 Speaker 6: They beat the Braves alone two. The Padres had eighteen 2246 01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:05,200 Speaker 6: hits and beat the Diamondbacks thirteen to one, while the 2247 01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,559 Speaker 6: White Sox had a sixty five win over the Cardinals 2248 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,800 Speaker 6: and ten Indians with a very long right now. The 2249 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,240 Speaker 6: Pirates snapped a five game losing streak and top the 2250 01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,519 Speaker 6: Rockies one zero, and the Mariners shout out the Astros 2251 01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,240 Speaker 6: in Houston five zero. The Phillies they crushed the Giants 2252 01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:19,080 Speaker 6: fourteen to three. 2253 01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:20,000 Speaker 5: Trade Turner of. 2254 01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,400 Speaker 6: The Phillies is this estimated to be out about six 2255 01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:23,120 Speaker 6: weeks with. 2256 01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:24,360 Speaker 5: A hamstring injury. 2257 01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,920 Speaker 6: The A's blew out the Marlins twenty to four, and 2258 01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:30,040 Speaker 6: the Yankees beat the Tigers five to three. But the Twins, guys, 2259 01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,160 Speaker 6: they are on a hot streak twelve in a row 2260 01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:35,280 Speaker 6: after beating the Red Sox three to one. The last 2261 01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:37,120 Speaker 6: time they won twelve in a row, they actually won 2262 01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:40,320 Speaker 6: the World Series, so I'm sure they're hoping for history 2263 01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:44,080 Speaker 6: to repeat itself. It's been a fun night, guys. I'm 2264 01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:45,479 Speaker 6: back to you all. 2265 01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,639 Speaker 3: Right, MONSI, thank you so much. 2266 01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:49,599 Speaker 2: By the way, if you miss Monsie, she was on 2267 01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:53,439 Speaker 2: with Kerrie Rhodes for four hours today, you can download 2268 01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:54,320 Speaker 2: that podcast as well. 2269 01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:54,760 Speaker 3: On your back. 2270 01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 2: What's time tomorrow nine ish nine ish ish should be 2271 01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:02,439 Speaker 2: joining Steve Hartman, Rich Orenberger and the crew there. So 2272 01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:06,400 Speaker 2: thank you, Monzi, have a great evening, drive safe, sleep well, 2273 01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:11,320 Speaker 2: we'll hear you soon. Yes, standing ovation for Manzi. She 2274 01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:14,000 Speaker 2: leaves the building. All right, tell you what, Jason will 2275 01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,000 Speaker 2: come back. We'll wrap the show. Do you want to 2276 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:24,719 Speaker 2: get to one NFL topic? A star signs in the NFL, 2277 01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,320 Speaker 2: but is he really a star? And is it really 2278 01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,840 Speaker 2: gonna matter? We'll wrap the show. Next to Fox Sports Radio. 2279 01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:36,639 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Errtoris Jason Martin taking 2280 01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,479 Speaker 2: eal up until two am Eastern. We are about to 2281 01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:43,320 Speaker 2: roll out about fifteen minutes from now. Bernie Frado of 2282 01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:47,240 Speaker 2: The Bernie Frado Show will follow us. Cannot wait to 2283 01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,280 Speaker 2: hear what Bernie's got to say on what was a busy, busy, 2284 01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,400 Speaker 2: busy week in sports. Jason, We really haven't done too 2285 01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,280 Speaker 2: much football today, obviously. Look, we're in the heart of 2286 01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,599 Speaker 2: the NBA playoffs. It's a slow time in the NFL. 2287 01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:03,280 Speaker 2: Was you know one pseudo interesting piece of news in 2288 01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:07,760 Speaker 2: the NFL this week? Odell Beckham headed to the Miami Dolphins. 2289 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,160 Speaker 3: Many thoughts on that one from your perspective. 2290 01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up now. I don't have his 2291 01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,360 Speaker 1: stats in front of me, because the first thing I 2292 01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:18,360 Speaker 1: thought about was not what did he do last year? 2293 01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:24,479 Speaker 1: It was more just like the personality fit and maybe 2294 01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:27,880 Speaker 1: there's not going to be a problem. But I kind 2295 01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:29,240 Speaker 1: of look at it and it's just like, man, there's 2296 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,479 Speaker 1: a lot of tendency of there's a lot of deva 2297 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,720 Speaker 1: tendency with the wide receiver room in Miami. So you're 2298 01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:41,679 Speaker 1: adding Odell to Tyreek Hill and you've still got Jalen 2299 01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:45,200 Speaker 1: Wattle as well. So and I'm not necessarily saying anything 2300 01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:46,920 Speaker 1: about Wattle here. I mean, we know Hill's got a 2301 01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:48,800 Speaker 1: little bit of a deva tendency to him. We certainly 2302 01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,599 Speaker 1: know Odell has a bit of that. Not that they're 2303 01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,599 Speaker 1: not dogs and not that they don't play hard. That's 2304 01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,280 Speaker 1: not what I'm indicating here. I'm just saying, you got 2305 01:50:54,280 --> 01:51:00,200 Speaker 1: a lot of dominant personalities. How is that mix gonna work? 2306 01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 1: And what does it mean to have Odell Beckham junior 2307 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,200 Speaker 1: at this point in his career. He had thirty five 2308 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,719 Speaker 1: catches on sixty four targets last year for five hundred 2309 01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,120 Speaker 1: and sixty five yards in fourteen games played where he 2310 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:19,799 Speaker 1: started six in Baltimore. He had an average of forty 2311 01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:23,960 Speaker 1: yards per game. He's thirty. He was thirty one last season, 2312 01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:28,519 Speaker 1: so he's gonna be another year older. He's now been. 2313 01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been in the league a lot longer 2314 01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:33,639 Speaker 1: than people think, honestly at this stage. I mean, he's 2315 01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,559 Speaker 1: been in the league now. This will be I guess 2316 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,840 Speaker 1: like his eleventh season, and he missed a year. Of course, 2317 01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:42,679 Speaker 1: he had the injury after the season with the Rams, 2318 01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:44,720 Speaker 1: and then he came back last year and played that 2319 01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:47,519 Speaker 1: played with Baltimore. I don't know what it means for 2320 01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,639 Speaker 1: them on the field. I don't know how much they 2321 01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:53,040 Speaker 1: needed at that position either, considering some of their other 2322 01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:56,800 Speaker 1: circumstances and what they already had. But I don't know 2323 01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,760 Speaker 1: that adding him isn't going to be a bit of 2324 01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,720 Speaker 1: an negative just because there's just a lot of I 2325 01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:04,479 Speaker 1: just looked at it from the outside. You tell me 2326 01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:06,080 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong er, but it just kind of feels 2327 01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,360 Speaker 1: like there's there's a lot of dynamite potential down there, 2328 01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,479 Speaker 1: and I mean like stuff that could get ignited where 2329 01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:14,800 Speaker 1: it's just the mix doesn't work and it ends up 2330 01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:16,040 Speaker 1: being a real problem. 2331 01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:17,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think three. 2332 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,760 Speaker 2: I had three kind of quick takeaways when I saw 2333 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:23,160 Speaker 2: this news. One, I just I don't think Odell moves 2334 01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:26,880 Speaker 2: the needle anymore. Like I saw like people trying to 2335 01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:29,200 Speaker 2: make it a really big thing, and I just don't 2336 01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:29,960 Speaker 2: think that it is. 2337 01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:31,000 Speaker 1: Two. 2338 01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:35,000 Speaker 2: Listen, I don't blame you know. Tyreek Hill is such 2339 01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,240 Speaker 2: a difference maker. And I remember saying this the year 2340 01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,519 Speaker 2: that he left k C. Is like, I think most 2341 01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:45,080 Speaker 2: even really good wide receivers are pretty replaceable. There's only 2342 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,800 Speaker 2: one Tyreek Hill, So I understand why you had to 2343 01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:49,559 Speaker 2: pay him what you did. And why you chose to 2344 01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:51,840 Speaker 2: pay him what you did. But when you pay a 2345 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,000 Speaker 2: wide receiver that much, let alone what you're gonna be 2346 01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:59,080 Speaker 2: paying to here down the road, you have to you know, 2347 01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,120 Speaker 2: you have to take chance is in a lot of places. 2348 01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,640 Speaker 2: And that's what this feels like with Odell. And then 2349 01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,439 Speaker 2: finally to your last point, Yeah, I mean, and you know, 2350 01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:08,679 Speaker 2: it's just it's the cliche of like is the juice 2351 01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:10,960 Speaker 2: worth to squeeze at this point? And I think with Odell, 2352 01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,080 Speaker 2: you know, this is a guy that you know, as 2353 01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,360 Speaker 2: you just said, thirty five catches this year with Baltimore, 2354 01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:21,439 Speaker 2: three touchdowns. This is not you know, twenty fourteen Odell, 2355 01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,840 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen Odell whatever. And so how happy is he? 2356 01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:29,360 Speaker 2: And then if he somehow is having success, is it 2357 01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,439 Speaker 2: at the detriment of Tyreek Hill or Jalen Wattle, who's 2358 01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:35,040 Speaker 2: obviously an emerging star as well, not even an emerging star, 2359 01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,920 Speaker 2: he is a star. So I guess you have to 2360 01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:41,800 Speaker 2: fill a wide receiver room. I just don't know that 2361 01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,560 Speaker 2: this is the move that I would make because I 2362 01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,040 Speaker 2: don't think it fundamentally makes you really any better as 2363 01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,960 Speaker 2: a team, right, Like, it's just he's another body in 2364 01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:54,960 Speaker 2: the wide receiver room. But I think the the problems 2365 01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:59,599 Speaker 2: that can cause seem to me to be greater than 2366 01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:03,280 Speaker 2: the positive that he's going to bring at age thirty 2367 01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:04,400 Speaker 2: one going on thirty two. 2368 01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, maybe it's going to be fine, and 2369 01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,559 Speaker 1: maybe he knows what he is at this point in 2370 01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 1: the a lot of those those tendencies, the superstar stuff's 2371 01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,320 Speaker 1: kind of gone after what he's gone through now and 2372 01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:17,120 Speaker 1: he's more of a blue collar guy. I know, he 2373 01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:18,880 Speaker 1: was pretty good when he was with the Rams in 2374 01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,960 Speaker 1: terms of how that went. Now he wasn't there for long, 2375 01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,720 Speaker 1: but just he seemed to be kind of dialed in 2376 01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,720 Speaker 1: there and not in a bad place after being in 2377 01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:31,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland for a few years. So maybe and you didn't 2378 01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:34,000 Speaker 1: really hear anything negative from him last year in Baltimore either, 2379 01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,480 Speaker 1: So maybe it's a circumstance where it's fine and he 2380 01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,680 Speaker 1: just goes in there and contributes just a little bit 2381 01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:42,480 Speaker 1: and he's just another depth piece for them, another potential 2382 01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:46,160 Speaker 1: offensive weapon for McDonald to put out there, and that's 2383 01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:50,400 Speaker 1: fine like that. If that turns out to be, that 2384 01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,360 Speaker 1: could turn out to work. I just kind of am 2385 01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:54,560 Speaker 1: skeptical that it's going to make much of a difference, 2386 01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,800 Speaker 1: and I do think that there is a possibility that 2387 01:54:57,880 --> 01:54:59,600 Speaker 1: it could go wrong really quickly. 2388 01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:05,880 Speaker 2: NBA Game seven on Sunday at one pm Eastern Time, 2389 01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:10,280 Speaker 2: early tip by the way, Orlando against the Cleveland Cavaliers. 2390 01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:14,320 Speaker 2: This series very interesting from the perspective that the home 2391 01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:18,200 Speaker 2: team has won every single game. Game seven is in Cleveland, 2392 01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:21,480 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell on Friday night finishes with fifty points even 2393 01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:24,920 Speaker 2: in a loss. Any strong, super strong opinions or takes 2394 01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:28,800 Speaker 2: on this one going into Game seven tomorrow today, not, 2395 01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:29,920 Speaker 2: I mean not really. 2396 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,320 Speaker 1: I think either team could win. I mean, Donovan Mitchell 2397 01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:34,520 Speaker 1: had a ridiculous game and they you know, still were 2398 01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:38,840 Speaker 1: not able to finish. I think I think it's likely 2399 01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:40,920 Speaker 1: going to be good. I do. I think it's gonna 2400 01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:45,320 Speaker 1: be hard fought and probably close. But I don't have 2401 01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:47,760 Speaker 1: a good sense on one of those teams being better 2402 01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:50,800 Speaker 1: than the other one. I think that they're both They're 2403 01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:54,840 Speaker 1: both doing good things, but they're both second tier in 2404 01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,520 Speaker 1: terms of you know, where they find themselves right now. 2405 01:55:57,880 --> 01:55:59,760 Speaker 1: So I think you're just watching for the team that's 2406 01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,080 Speaker 1: going to losing the next round really quickly. 2407 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I agree. 2408 01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,120 Speaker 2: I think whoever wins it's not gonna be easy against 2409 01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:10,640 Speaker 2: Boston really quickly. We haven't talked at all actually about 2410 01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:12,640 Speaker 2: the you know, the Pacers knocking out the Bucks, the 2411 01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:14,600 Speaker 2: Knicks knocking out the seventy six ers. 2412 01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:15,880 Speaker 3: Now those two teams playing. 2413 01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,840 Speaker 2: That series kicks tips off on Monday night, seven thirty 2414 01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:23,000 Speaker 2: Eastern Time. Obviously a lot of history between the Pacers 2415 01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:24,240 Speaker 2: and the Knicks in the playoffs. 2416 01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,200 Speaker 3: Just any quick thoughts on that one, Jason, I. 2417 01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,680 Speaker 1: Mean, I'm excited for it. You're right, the history is 2418 01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,960 Speaker 1: something that's sorely missing right now, and just the rivalry there. 2419 01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to see it becomes something. The Knicks are 2420 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:39,200 Speaker 1: really impressing me, and Brunson's really another guy that has 2421 01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity to really do something, and he's already showing 2422 01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,840 Speaker 1: that he's capable of doing that. I just I look 2423 01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,480 Speaker 1: at the Pacers and I wonder if they've already kind 2424 01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,680 Speaker 1: of had their year. I think that they impressed, they improved. 2425 01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:53,720 Speaker 1: There gonna be a team to watch in the future, 2426 01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:55,800 Speaker 1: But it seems to me like they've kind of peaked, 2427 01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,040 Speaker 1: They've kind of hit where they're supposed to hit. At 2428 01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:00,560 Speaker 1: this point, this feels like a series the Knicks should win, 2429 01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:01,960 Speaker 1: and I anticipate them winning. 2430 01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited. And I also think Knicks are a 2431 01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,640 Speaker 2: weirdly feel good story. You know, obviously we know the 2432 01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,640 Speaker 2: Jalen brunts in history, but all those Villanova guys like 2433 01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,920 Speaker 2: they play hard, they're coachable, you know, they don't seem 2434 01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:16,920 Speaker 2: to mind tibbs, And I'm with you. I think the 2435 01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,720 Speaker 2: series is interesting because I think obviously Indiana's gonna want 2436 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:22,280 Speaker 2: to play much faster than Philly, and most of those 2437 01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,080 Speaker 2: Philly New York games were close, so I could see 2438 01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,040 Speaker 2: Indiana giving it, taking a game or two. 2439 01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:27,200 Speaker 3: But I think New York wins. 2440 01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:29,760 Speaker 2: And then you know, if we get a Boston New 2441 01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:33,000 Speaker 2: York series in the Eastern Conference finals, that would be fascinating. 2442 01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:35,600 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, whatever happens in the West is 2443 01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,360 Speaker 2: going to be good as well. Denver Minnesota. Of course, 2444 01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:42,680 Speaker 2: Game one was Saturday night. Minnesota takes that one. Game 2445 01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:47,760 Speaker 2: two on Monday night. Jason in twenty thirty seconds or less, 2446 01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:51,280 Speaker 2: any strong opinions on game two or what you expect 2447 01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:54,280 Speaker 2: to see when when Denver Minnesota play again on Monday night. 2448 01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:56,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota were to 2449 01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:58,400 Speaker 1: go up to oh, but this feels like the champs 2450 01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:00,600 Speaker 1: are going to have some metal at Phil. It's gonna 2451 01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,280 Speaker 1: be a long series, and one game to the next 2452 01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna see something where it's like, well, boy, they 2453 01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:07,760 Speaker 1: figure something out and then there's gonna be an adjustment 2454 01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,600 Speaker 1: made on the other side. So I expect denverll even 2455 01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:12,480 Speaker 1: the series and take it to Minnesota one one. 2456 01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to see them taking both and so yeah, 2457 01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:18,760 Speaker 2: Game two of that series is on Monday night. We 2458 01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:20,040 Speaker 2: gotta get out of here. What I want to thank 2459 01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:23,360 Speaker 2: the crew Mary Mack on the boards. Producer Shay Monci 2460 01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:26,480 Speaker 2: Belanios was on the update desk. From my partner Jason Martin, 2461 01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:29,840 Speaker 2: I am Aaron Torres. If you missed any of the show, 2462 01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,720 Speaker 2: make sure to go back and download the podcast available 2463 01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:35,880 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast. Shortly after the show, coming 2464 01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:39,320 Speaker 2: up Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show. He is next, 2465 01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:42,360 Speaker 2: Jason and I back next Saturday. This is Fox Sports. 2466 01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:42,880 Speaker 3: Are you