1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:00,760 Speaker 1: Both of you. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 2: What's it been like going through this process kind. 3 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 3: Of leading away for the first time. I mean she 4 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 3: was a heo, she was the first. 5 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 4: Time at old Man. 6 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 5: What has this been like? 7 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll start and kick it over to Liam. But 8 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's still familiar territory. 9 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: You're talking football, and you know, my mind remains rooted 10 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: and a lot of the same things that it always 11 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 3: has been. And I think you all will remember this phrase, 12 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: but focusing our intention on intangibly rich human beings and 13 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: allow that to remain our north star and making it 14 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: so that you know, it's very clear amongst our group 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: that that's really what we're leaning into and having everybody 16 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: embrace that and feel that it's been a joy. It's 17 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: been fulfilling and really looking forward to allowing those discussions 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: to become reality. And we're not far off from that. 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: But just like the players that are included in this 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: draft class, right their dream is to get drafted and 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: for those guys, that's about to be reality. And it's 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: been fun to have that be the case for us personally, 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: to see our dreams become reality, and you know, working 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 3: in tandem, it's it's been fulfilling. It's been a joy. 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 6: One of the biggest issues with this team last year had. 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 5: A lot of people's. 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Bonds, was a lot of toughness in both interior minds. 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 7: You invested considerable capital and free agency helped reinforce that, 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 7: and I'm just wondering if you feel like the draft 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 7: is also another avenue to add reinforcements to that, because 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 7: it seems like you could never have enough in terms 32 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 7: of competition in those positions. 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you asked that because something that's been 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: very clear to both Liam and I, and it's something 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: that we both value innately, is physical and mental toughness. 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: And I know that that probably was a parent and 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: that just by default the offensive line and defensive line 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: that breeds that sort of mentality in that type of play. 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: We prioritized addressing offensive line through pro free agency, and 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: I think we'll continue to do that throughout the draft. 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: But I don't think we're limited at the fronts right 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: That stuff should show up at all levels of our 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: offensive and defensive operation, and clearly on special teams. That's 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: always going to remain at the forefront. But those two 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: elements in tandem is really a real combination that we covet, 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: and I think you'll hear just about every time that 47 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: Liam steps to a podium, he's going to mention some 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: version of physical and mental toughness as really what he's 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: hunting up. 50 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 4: For. 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: How bothers, it wasn't for Eatervie that on third and 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: one last year Jaguars Patty Amber was barely over fifty. 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's something that ultimately you look at 54 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: last year. I think in the NFL we were first 55 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: in Tampa in short yardage, and although I'd love to 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: say that we just you know, ran duo down everybody's throat, 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: I can't say that there was some misdirection, jet sweeps, whatever, 58 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 2: it was different ways of getting that yard. And ultimately, yes, 59 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: you'd love to say, man, hey we got to just 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: gain a yard. We should be able to do this 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: with the most simple plays in football, But it just 62 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: depends on how you're built and what those matchups look like, obviously, 63 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: and it is on us as coaches to hopefully put 64 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: those guys in better positions to be successful that way. 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 5: James, can you take us through the decision not to 66 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 5: do in person visits the strategy kind of behind not 67 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 5: bringing prospects here. 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a lot of layers to not 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: doing those facility visits that you all are probably accustomed to, 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: or those top thirty visits as they're phrased. But you know, 71 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: it goes back a while for me and my experience. 72 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: I think, you know, just think about, let's take it 73 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: this direction, the implicit bias that can come to life 74 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: this late in the process, the last player you might 75 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: sit down with, and how that might differ from the 76 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: first player you sit down with, knowing that it's closer 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: to the decision that's upcoming. Addition to that, like, you know, 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: so much of the work that's done in preparation for 79 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: these decisions starts years in advance, and you know, the 80 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: sourced intel from those who have lived with these individuals 81 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: is likely to be more accurate than me sitting down 82 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: with a prospect for a short period of time and 83 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: attempting to dissect who that human being is. And so 84 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: I don't know that I don't view myself as having 85 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: this extreme superpower of deciphering the complexity of a person 86 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: in an hour, right, I would probably say I can 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: work that in tandem. But there are other mechanisms that 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: we tend to lean into to help us determine whether 89 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: or not a player is in fact a fit for us. 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: More than just a singular touch point that would be 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: a top thirty visit, We have a lot of additional 92 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: mechanisms that we deploy that don't necessarily put us at 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: risk for the rest of the world to know which 94 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: direction we're heading as well, because so often those become 95 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: public facing touch points, at which point you're sacrificing some 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: version of strategy come draft day as well. 97 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: That I'm just curious, and you're less than two months 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: time here, James, how much have you been able to 99 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: implement in terms of that strategy in terms of springing 100 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: the Jars program here Jacksonville. 101 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: Obviously, you know. 102 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: You bring some of your friends from there into the 103 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 4: front office here so far, but how much have you 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: actually been able to implement in terms of that process itself. 105 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some specific efficiencies that we've been able 106 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: to sort of fold into the process, and in large 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: part there's a good bit of information already at our 108 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: disposal and a lot of internal knowledge that already exists 109 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: that's really helpful, you know, having our scouting staff on 110 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: site for the first time this week, all being under 111 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: the same roof. It was really cool. We got a 112 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: chance to sit down yesterday and chop through a large 113 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: of the prospects and got a chance to share with 114 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: them my impressions of day one with them. And so often, 115 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: let's just set the stage. You get into a draft 116 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: meeting and each person has a piece of paper or 117 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: a noepick in front of them or their laptop, and 118 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: they're referencing their reports that they've done on each of 119 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: the prospects, looking down reading those reports out loud. Something 120 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: I appreciate more than anything is when an evaluator or 121 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: a scout treats those moments like you're at the water cooler, 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: like you're just having a normal conversation as a as 123 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: opposed to this boardroom meeting, and our group inherently did that. 124 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: They made it just a natural conversation, and they didn't 125 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: just revert to their notes, but rather what they already 126 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: knew in their minds because they were so prepared for 127 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: that moment on their own. So that was a really 128 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: cool moment for me to see our scouting staff walk 129 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: in the door as prepared as I could have ever 130 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: hoped for those initial conversations, I used the phrase being 131 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: a fighter not a fencer, right, instead of having to 132 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: put on armor pick up a sword to fight, they 133 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 3: simply just had to close their fist. They were ready 134 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: for that moment. And I look forward to the rest 135 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: of the conversations that we're gonna have here over the 136 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: next nine days and see what else settles as the 137 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 3: cement begins to harden. 138 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 6: Fact, James, just the entire process of you being in 139 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 6: la and all the scouting that you did and then 140 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 6: to come here and see what Trent and Ethan and 141 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 6: their staff have just kind of comparing and contrasting. How 142 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 6: difficult was that And was there anything during that process 143 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 6: that maybe really surprised you or perhaps you don't just 144 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 6: tie you off guard. 145 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that there were any surprises or 146 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: anything catching me off guard. As much as it was. 147 00:07:53,680 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: It's been very impressive the adaptability of that group to say, hey, 148 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: here are the items that we're emphasizing and that we'll 149 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: be prioritizing may look a little different than what you're 150 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: used to, and being able to see them sort of 151 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: pivot away from maybe things that they held at a 152 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: premium in the past. And so that's been that flexibility 153 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: has really stood out to me amongst the group. 154 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 5: What's your comfort level in terms of talking trades and 155 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 5: things like that. Do you like to have those discussions 156 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 5: a few days higher to Thursday night or are you 157 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 5: pretty comfortable even if it's on the clock being able 158 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: to make that kind of move quickly. 159 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 160 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: I think adaptability is going to be key through that. 161 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: It's never going to be done until you know it 162 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: gets sent into the league. So we'll have as many 163 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: conversations as people are willing to engage on. And I 164 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: don't think that now versus on the clock is going 165 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: to be anything that I would say isn't of interest. 166 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 5: When do you like to have your board kind. 167 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: Of final Yeah, right before we pick. I mean it's interesting, 168 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: it's not so black and white, right. You can probably 169 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: think about the decisions you make in a day, and 170 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: especially when you have the chance to sleep on it, 171 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: whether or not it's the right one or the wrong one. 172 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: And we've gone through a ton of exercises over the 173 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: last five weeks to where we sleep with decisions right 174 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: and we say this is exactly what we're doing over 175 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: the course of the draft. How do we feel about 176 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: this outcome, and we wrestle with that, we sit with it, 177 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: we reflect, and then we try a new one. And 178 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: that's been fun because I know it's not something that 179 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: the larger group has been used to doing, at least 180 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: in that long of a runway, But for me, it's 181 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: the way in which my mind works, and I've in 182 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: the past experienced the moments when you send in a pick, 183 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: you know when you press enter whether or not it 184 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: was the right one for you, And that's what I've 185 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: enjoyed doing over the last handful of weeks with our 186 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: group and sort of treating it it like we just 187 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: press center and trying to wrestle with whether or not 188 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: that that felt the best or if it's exactly what 189 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: we would have wanted to be the case. And so, 190 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: just like any any player going out onto the grass 191 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: in preparation for a Sunday, we actually want to treat 192 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: these reps like real life, and so trying to create 193 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: that as often as possible has been certainly enjoyable, but 194 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: look forward to it actually bringing with it some positive 195 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: results here soon. 196 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: Over to that. 197 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 6: Point, can you kind of map out what the next 198 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 6: wee can have is for you guys from. 199 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: A process standpoint, what kind of things would. 200 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: You go through to try to be as prepared as 201 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: you can be for. 202 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: The actual raft? Yeah? I can so right now we're 203 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: using the mornings with our scouting staff, afternoon with our 204 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: coaching staff. We'll do that throughout the remainder of this 205 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: week and then into next week. We got mock drafts 206 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: that will just simulate at the beginning of the week 207 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: before getting to a draft day. 208 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 6: And when you when you go to the. 209 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: Mock draft situation, what do you do in to pull 210 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: as much information. 211 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: As you can to to to have. 212 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: That be as actors? 213 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: I say that it's more operationally to make sure that 214 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: uh all of our attack is functioning uh as much 215 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: as it is n like actually having a m uh 216 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 3: a draft to come off, so to speak. 217 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 8: So, uh, James, I, I I kind of looked up 218 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 8: my own version of intangibly rich right, good, right, Well, 219 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 8: hopefully we we kind of. 220 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: Got this right. 221 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: So not only are our fans now intangibly R curious, 222 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: so is our media groups. Yeah that's the TANGI. 223 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 5: Uh well, really I at five at number five? 224 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: Is it? 225 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 5: And I ain't made the sound? 226 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Pease? 227 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: Is it more? Obvious. Do you have to pay attention 228 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: to the intangibles cause it kind of like. 229 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: The indendals, some side of things that you don't see 230 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: that aren't obvious at five. 231 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 7: Isn't a little more obvious, especially if you're not in 232 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 7: a market fort. 233 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: Is it more obvious? I I would like to think 234 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: it's pretty obvious, But uh, you know a lot of 235 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: this it just requires discipline. Like for the most part, 236 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: you become so intimate and understanding who these people are 237 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: in the build up to those draft day decisions that 238 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: by the end of it, you know what you're taking 239 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: on and you have to make the decision as to 240 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: whether or not you can accept that person for who 241 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: they are. And the people that we will accept for 242 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: who they are is an invite and select will be 243 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: those that are intangibly rich and people. Again, I know 244 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: I've been asked quite often like what does that actually mean? 245 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 3: And I promise that whatever just came to your mind 246 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: is what I'm thinking, Like it exists, It's in my 247 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: mind as well as yours. But I was asked right 248 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 3: off the jump physical and mental toughness, like that's a 249 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: part of intangibly rich, and it's a big part of it, 250 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: so those two elements will be top of mind. I mean, 251 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: when you look at our draft day call sheet, the 252 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 3: items that we're bucketing in that intangibly rich category are 253 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: the largest brightest number and color on our call sheet, 254 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: and it's because that's where we start at every point 255 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: of player acquisition. That's where we start. Doesn't mean that 256 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: it'll be exactly the order that we select in or 257 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: pick or choose from, but it will be where we 258 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: began every decision. 259 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: When you when you look at the depth chart of 260 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: this draft, like position, could you out wanted to get 261 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: a couple of positions which you think it's deep. 262 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 7: Enough where whether you draft the player early in the second. 263 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: Or middle of the third or first round versus. 264 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: Second where you you you think that you could still 265 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: get a pretty dark, decent player without being a significant 266 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: drop off. 267 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know quite Frankly, I think that every draft 268 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: there ends up being players that are very good at 269 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: all positions from start to finish. And I think that 270 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: that probably doesn't come as a surprise when you look 271 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 3: at the most recent drafts that I've been a part of, 272 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: especially with those Day three selections and even those undrafted 273 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: college free agents who in Los Angeles, had played a 274 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: high volume of snaps and contributed in a significant way 275 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: early in their rookie contract. So yeah, I think there 276 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 3: are some public facing positions that everybody has a pretty 277 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: good understanding that are deep in this year's draft. But 278 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a single position that we would 279 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: label as being without talent, and all of them can 280 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: produce somebody for us that would contribute it in a 281 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: notable way fairly early in their rookie contract along the 282 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: entirety of the draft. 283 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: Credit work with Liam. What is your assessment of the 284 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: receiving core of. 285 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: This draft, of its talent terms of its viability as 286 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 5: a did for your franchise. 287 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's some just good, sound, solid players 288 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: at a few different spots where there's also some ball 289 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: in hand athletes. There's also a couple of guys that 290 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: can win fifty to fifty balls. There's some really good 291 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: football players all throughout this draft at the position. I 292 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't say it's maybe as sparkling as some other drafts. 293 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: Right where you do see, you know some of you know, 294 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: there's a couple of good ones up there, and we 295 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: feel good about some of the guys a little bit 296 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: later on that we can contribute for us. Definitely a 297 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: position that we'd be looking for. 298 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: James, last time we talked to you at the quodium, 299 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: you reference the defensive tackle, the edge rooms, and the 300 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: idea of getting rookies in here, getting them on the 301 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: grass early. So this may be a question more for 302 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: coach camp than you, Liam, But what are you looking 303 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: for when it comes to an edge or a defensive 304 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: tackle player? A lot but made especially this last week 305 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: nationally about is a player rugged enough to play the edge? 306 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: What are traits that you and your staff look for 307 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: at those positions? 308 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, mental and physically and mentally tough 309 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: comes to mind. And guys that can set an edge 310 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: in the run game, play long, don't have that doesn't 311 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: mean they have to be six four two sixty, but 312 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: can set an edge and play long and stout in 313 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: the run game, while also maybe giving you a different 314 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: version of a rush plan, right, a little bit of 315 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: a different wave of rusher that can maybe come in 316 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: and do some different things and some third downs, get 317 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: back on track situations that can potentially burn an edge 318 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: and be able to get off the edge and go 319 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: a little bit For us so definitely something that we're 320 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: looking for. 321 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: Job Leam. 322 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 8: You talked about leaning past a little bit before, just 323 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 8: knowing how many draft picks you guys have, the dental 324 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 8: spots bone drafting guys that add on to the rosters 325 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 8: ex site. You know, like you guys are about to 326 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 8: add the high number of young guys. 327 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: It is exciting. 328 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: I mean, like I mentioned last time, conversation we had 329 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: with the staff and something that we don't want to 330 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: fear whatsoever. And I think naturally as a coach you 331 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: just go to a safe place of a veteran, which 332 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: I completely respect and appreciate. But it's definitely something we're 333 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: going to lean into. The guys should be excited about it. 334 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: You know, you can continue to coach hard and and 335 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: get the best out of these guys when they're freshly 336 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 2: in the league and really want to do best. So 337 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: we're excited about that factor. 338 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 5: What is the thing you enjoyed the most things? The 339 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: biggest suggestment you going through the process. 340 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 7: Now as a head coach and probably a little bit 341 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 7: more input than you had before. 342 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 4: Run. 343 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, having a larger appreciation for every 344 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: position on the grass, including special team. You know, special teams. 345 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: When we're evaluating a wide out or a dB, a safety, 346 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: a corner, a back, or a tight end, Well, what 347 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: can his special teams contribution be as well? That's not 348 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: something I ever really had to go to that place, 349 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: And so that's been exciting to learn more about from James, 350 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: from the other coaches, seeing their vision for these players. 351 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: And that's been a huge learning curve for me and 352 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: experience where you're normally just hey, offense, every time you 353 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: watch an offensive player, defensive players pop and your eyes 354 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: start to go to those players that pop. Well, now 355 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: it's truly evaluating, hey, how does this player fit into 356 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: our play our roster right now? Where can we see 357 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: them playing on each down? In distance packages? Things like 358 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: that where you start to try to tweak your thinking 359 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: a little bit. 360 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 9: Change, do you know yourself think about the first pick setting. 361 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: The tone for the entire tenure of your regime and 362 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: how that you guess the really the first pick kind 363 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: of does that? I think naturally that's absolutely where your 364 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: mind goes. And we've had discussions on that subject a 365 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 3: number of times, and UH certainly feel really good about 366 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: the pot of players right now that we're discussing and uh, 367 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: and that that would align with all the messages that 368 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: we would like to send to the locker room, to 369 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: our fan base, to the greater football landscape about who 370 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to be moving forward. 371 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 5: Did you guys do a local product? 372 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: No, we did not. 373 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 5: Is that philosophy or is that because maybe just the 374 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 5: local schools didn't have maybe what you were looking for? 375 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 376 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 3: I think in a similar breath, is the top thirty visits. 377 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: It's a familiar territory for me to not participate in that, 378 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: and I think it was certainly based off where we 379 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 3: were at this being the first cycle that we're working together, 380 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: Spending that energy in a different way made sense. It 381 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: seems like more and. 382 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 8: More top pics slightly or not testing during off season 383 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 8: alight testing. 384 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: How do you guys adjusted to get the full picture 385 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: of a player when you maybe. 386 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 3: Don't have those numbers. Yeah, I think so often. That's 387 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: a great question. By the way, I think many people 388 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: are leaning in a different direction than just strictly those 389 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: testing and measurement marks. Certainly it's helpful when you can 390 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: compare apples to apples from one player to the next. 391 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: But you know, data tracking for us and on field 392 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: speeds is going to weigh much differently than a forty 393 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: yard dash your time for. 394 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 4: Two or three more in terms of who you have 395 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 4: in the locker room right now, this is where you 396 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: coach when it comes to Ryan Thomas. 397 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 5: Junior a number one. 398 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: Who do you say, confidently is that number two and 399 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: three that could take the pressure off of Ry Thomas Junior? 400 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 401 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: I think you know we're going to spread the ball 402 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: out hopefully equally. That was the nice thing about being 403 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: last year with Tampa and we had to play a 404 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: lot of different players in different personnel groupings. I think 405 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 2: you look just naturally right now at Parker Washington and 406 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 2: Dianmi Brown at the receiver positions and then saying that, hey, 407 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: Brenton Strange hopefully continues to ascend. How do we use 408 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: our two running backs to be able to supplement some 409 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: of that usage right and be able to get more 410 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: people involved in the game, especially early on, so that 411 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: defenses can't just cloud you know, BT and be all 412 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: over him. That we do have other guys that can 413 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 2: go win and be explosive with the ball in their 414 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: hands and ultimately share that wealth and share that playmaking ability. 415 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: So that once the ball is snapped for the beginning 416 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: of the game and within the first quarter, if you 417 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: haven't touched the ball, it's a hard one to get 418 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: continue to get through. So how do we get all 419 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: of our playmakers a touch early on to get them 420 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: going and get them involved in the game. And those 421 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: guys that I just mentioned right now are guys that 422 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna spotlight when you're going off. 423 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 9: Your draft board, and you have teams that will not 424 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 9: take guys simply because they've been character concerned or off 425 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 9: the field issues. When you're doing your draft board, is 426 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 9: there's something that you're not when you're looking at you're 427 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 9: taking these guys off the board you. 428 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: D regardless, Oh yeah, there are quite a few things. 429 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, we focus 430 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: the majority of our attentions on who it is that 431 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: we're really interested, who fits the profile for UH, really 432 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: what we want to invite into this environment. And if 433 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: you're not intangibly rich, it's gonna it's gonna be a 434 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: hard time for uh for that person to really mesh here. 435 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: And UH, you know, I think those that will thrive 436 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: in the environment that we create and cultivate UH are 437 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: going to be people that fit the mold for what 438 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: we've talked about to date, and that is all the 439 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: physical and mental toughness attributes. And if you don't meet 440 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: those thresholds that we've set, it's it's gonna be something 441 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: that we sort of go in a different direction from. 442 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 8: You're when you're talking about trying to get to an 443 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 8: Angulia ration. 444 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: You don't have top thirty business and you're. 445 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: Not necessarily on site or proda. 446 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 3: Where's the other. 447 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 8: Mechanisms you touched on in. 448 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: Getting that information? 449 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, some of those we like to keep sort of 450 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: in house in private, just because we feel it's a 451 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: version of a competitive advantage. While at the same time, 452 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: you can look towards the traditional metrics and in ways 453 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: about going to understand who a person is from an 454 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: intangible standpoint, and that is rooted in the film evaluation 455 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: and some of the things that aren't necessarily related to 456 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: a physical quality. And then you get into the sourced 457 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: information from a player's past, right whether it's college, campus, 458 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: a hometown, et cetera. So all those things begin to 459 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: get weighted and surface sort of our thresholds for whether 460 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: or not they're somebody we feel like fits our mold. 461 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 6: Have you had to teach that. 462 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: To the er staff of how that Yeah, in terms 463 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: of our current staff, they're already going down the traditional 464 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: methods of bringing that stuff to life, and then in 465 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: terms of decision making, leveraging that in a way that 466 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: may not be uh sort of the traditional model for 467 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: what the Jaguars have seen in the past, but at 468 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: the end of the day, it doesn't necessarily require any 469 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: additional education, but will into the future as we have 470 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: full cycles to work with as a as a full 471 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: scouting staff. 472 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 7: Not to be like a smart ass, but in tangibly rich. 473 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 7: Was that a phrase you guys used it the brands 474 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 7: or did you kind of bring. 475 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: That over or it's not it's not. Yeah, I don't 476 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 3: know when did I say it for the first time? Yeah, 477 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 3: I think it just it came. Look so much of 478 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: that stuff, it really does. It resonates. It's for for 479 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: both Liam and I. But we've got a lot of spinoffs. 480 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: We've got a lot of spinoffs. But that yes, hey 481 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: you got to drop that one in there or not, 482 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: But no, I think naturally that is what both Liam 483 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: and I are built on, and so we gravitate towards 484 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: those types of people, and so I don't know that 485 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: it was anything other than just what surfaced at the moment, 486 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 3: I guess at my first press conference, But it definitely 487 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: is something I want to hang on to, and I'm 488 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: not ready to release that yet because I just I 489 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: keep saying it at every chance I get right. But 490 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 3: it I think, in some way, shape or form, it 491 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: paints a picture for what it is that we're hunting 492 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: up and pay it to your guys, Oh, that doesn't 493 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: take much because most most evaluations generally include some version 494 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: of physical qualities and intangible qualities already rooted in what 495 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: you're measuring, So it didn't take much time for them 496 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: to understand, Oh, this is the bucket that we're leaning 497 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 3: into as a as a driver for our decisions. Yeah, John, 498 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: thank you for your time.