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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: You're back on Coast to Coast AM. Hello, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for being here. My name is Connie Willis.

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Speaker 2: We're here along with Shane Ivy, the originator of his

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Speaker 2: trademarked application of remote viewing operational handicapping. Where where do

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Speaker 2: we find you, Shane? I know we can on Facebook,

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Speaker 2: but what's the website that we can look for you

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Speaker 2: and learn more about you?

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Speaker 3: Well? At the moment, I have a new role with

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Speaker 3: a new organization named Center Lane Project, and that has

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Speaker 3: been put together to preserve and strengthen and expand the

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Speaker 3: core principles of CRV itself as it was taught by

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Speaker 3: how put Off in Inglo Swan. The advisors are, you know,

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Speaker 3: some of the great Tom McNair, Plit Smith, Bill Ray,

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Speaker 3: Let's skip Batwater and there's a great board of director.

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Speaker 3: I am the outreach associate, So this is a great

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Speaker 3: way to start out outreach the public.

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Speaker 1: Mother.

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Speaker 3: Look know I'm here and my email is there if

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Speaker 3: you go to about if you go to Center Lane

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Speaker 3: dash RV dot org. I think the link is in

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Speaker 3: my bio here on Coast to coast a m. Go

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Speaker 3: to the about page and you'll find me. You could

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Speaker 3: hit the email and ask any questions you like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's center lane dash r v dot org Center

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Speaker 2: Lane dash r v dot org. That dash always messes

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Speaker 2: people up. They'll be like, what what a dash?

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Speaker 3: What to google and put in center Lane project right now,

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Speaker 3: the second one down below the CIA documents so.

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Speaker 2: Perfect, right up top perfect. Okay, So you were getting

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Speaker 2: into it. You were telling us all about the horse

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Speaker 2: racing and all the all the different things happening. And

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Speaker 2: and by the way, so far since with the break

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Speaker 2: and you're already talking about everything. I've gotten emails, I've

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Speaker 2: gotten texts there they they want to buy your pictures,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's not it's not that way. It's not

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Speaker 2: that way, right, It's not about the pictures. Even you

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Speaker 2: when you draw the pictures and anybody does remote viewing you.

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Speaker 2: You do draw pictures, but usually you don't know the

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Speaker 2: pictures until afterwards you get the feedback and go, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's what that meant.

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Speaker 3: But many times there's these uncanny summer Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's so cool.

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Speaker 2: P seven's man, they're the best in the world. Let

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Speaker 2: me tell you. Those are like pretty awesome too. So

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Speaker 2: so let's get back to learning from you. And by

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Speaker 2: the way you have marked, you have trademarked your remote

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Speaker 2: viewing is operational handicapping?

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Speaker 4: Handicapping? Is that right handicap?

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Speaker 3: Using remote remote viewing operationally to handicap or horse race.

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Speaker 3: I've always called it operational handicapping. I even call it,

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Speaker 3: you know, op cap. I'm going to do an opcap,

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Speaker 3: you know, and at some point I thought I should

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Speaker 3: probably uh trademark this, uh, this application. You know, this

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Speaker 3: is not a method. You know, the methods are cr

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Speaker 3: V and t r V, e r V and such.

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Speaker 3: You know, applications are like ARV. It's how you apply

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Speaker 3: remote viewing to how you're going to get a binary question. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And then operational handicapping is it's it's it's an application

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Speaker 3: for sports betting. Basically, I'm applying remote view into sports betting.

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Speaker 3: And as a matter of fact, it's under the US

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Speaker 3: Patent and Trademark Office, it's categorized as education, uh, with

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Speaker 3: remote viewing towards sports prediction anderating sports predictions as well.

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Speaker 3: So I generally, as far as the USTPO is concerned

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Speaker 3: by my home sports and remote viewing but you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I just don't want people to

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Speaker 3: use the name unless I sign off on it, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's not I'm trying to, you know,

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Speaker 3: point of the market on this thing. Anybody could remote

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Speaker 3: view and you know, if you know about remote vieing,

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Speaker 3: know a lot of folks do. They've done their homework. Really,

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Speaker 3: I'm just riding a queue at the top of the page.

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Speaker 3: We don't use envelopes anymore. And the practice targets. I

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Speaker 3: found out that as long as I stayed blind to

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Speaker 3: the race. You know, let's think about the next Kentucky Derby.

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Speaker 3: Neither one of us know what horses will be in

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Speaker 3: that race, but we could remote vie the next Kentucky

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Speaker 3: you go, and then you can make your bet and

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Speaker 3: then you get your feedback after the race is actualized.

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Speaker 3: So with that, I've shortened the amount of time takes

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Speaker 3: to do these sessions. I could do these sessions within

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Speaker 3: a half hour of the race. Do the session in

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Speaker 3: fifteen minutes, look at the entries, put a bet on,

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Speaker 3: watch the race, cash a ticket, and it's fast.

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Speaker 2: So the other day speak so let's let's let's let's

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Speaker 2: day you you came on to me doing a show

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Speaker 2: and you because the Belmont Stakes was coming up, and

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Speaker 2: what was this? This was Thursday night. How long did

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Speaker 4: Twenty thirty? You didn't have much time. I like to

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Speaker 4: talk to you that day too.

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Speaker 3: I think even yeah, it was, it was. It was

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Speaker 3: pretty pretty quick, and I did a CRV on it.

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Speaker 3: I do more controlled remote viewing since I've learned with Paul.

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Speaker 3: I began my training with ten in twenty fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 3: taking it to advanced. So now I tend to use

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Speaker 3: You know TRV that Ed Dames Metton is morbid. It's

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Speaker 3: then you kind of do it like kind of broken record.

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Speaker 3: just relax into the process and CRV. You could really

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Speaker 3: feel the artists and the psychic that INGO was in

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Speaker 3: And as I began going through at many more pages

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Speaker 3: than I normally do, it took about maybe a forty

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute after forty minutes and checking it out

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Speaker 2: and looking at the names, YE came up.

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Speaker 3: That's right. They went with mind frame. And this session

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Speaker 3: but there was some sort of word association, like sort

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Speaker 2: But do you do you play it kind of safe

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Speaker 3: Winning money sometimes sometimes you know, we had a string

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Speaker 3: I'd have these winners that were uncanny, they looked wonderful,

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Speaker 3: so I began to place put show money on horses

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Speaker 3: followed by place and then a little bit less by show.

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Speaker 3: But it does displace since I can't tell how the

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Speaker 3: operational handicapping. I will bet show money and then a

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Speaker 3: like a little sawback where you do this one place,

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Speaker 3: But I've become very careful, very patient, because this repeats itself.

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Speaker 3: so when I get something that looks really, really good,

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm from Kentucky, so I'm used to

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Speaker 4: I thought I thought it was a joke. I did

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Speaker 2: But it was a real deal and people were serious

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Speaker 3: I think they outlawed that in Florida.

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Speaker 4: Good day. I oh, it's been a while years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah really, Yeah, this permutel betting as well, you know,

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Speaker 3: Perramichel wagering, and I sure I would. I would imagine

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Speaker 3: you could do the same thing with Yeah, if you

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Speaker 3: just did hermouling, you know, next, you know, next Fido

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Speaker 3: steaks slash optimum leaning dog, you get the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how well we would do if you and

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Speaker 2: like we could put a whole bunch of races together

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Speaker 2: and I would pick, I would pick, and then you

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Speaker 2: would pick using your what what you do, and I

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Speaker 2: could pick by you know, me just pulling out the

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Speaker 2: old ENTENTI way. We all have our special ways. When

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Speaker 2: you grow up with the derby, I think I would

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Speaker 2: just be that Yeah, sometimes it would just be oh

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Speaker 2: I like that name, or oh I like that color,

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Speaker 2: I like the jockeys pattern.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the.

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Speaker 3: Haunch and the gut feeling is alive and well to

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Speaker 3: track it really it really is.

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Speaker 4: It is it is.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that conventional handicapping naturally, you know,

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Speaker 3: nothing's going to take place of that. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: you know, there's many different angles I'm looking at these

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Speaker 3: horses generally speaking, though since I remote view, I can't

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Speaker 3: follow horse racing because then I'll be front loaded with

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Speaker 3: all these names.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I have to come into a cold you know,

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Speaker 3: I not have to not know anything about the horses

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Speaker 3: in the race. And I'll go months without doing a

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Speaker 3: horse race just to let everything cycle through and horses

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Speaker 3: fill throughout to the different circuits, and then I'll come

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Speaker 3: back at it. So when I feel confident, I don't

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Speaker 3: remote view one race after the other after the other

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Speaker 3: after the other, because I think the process degrades a bit.

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Speaker 3: But I have hit daily doubles by doing a race

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Speaker 3: the night before and then it was a stakes race.

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Speaker 3: So it's really easy to write a search term instead

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Speaker 3: of writing, you know, next race one. You come up

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Speaker 3: with a race that has a name, I Kentucky Derby, Freakness,

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Speaker 3: the Belmont Steaks, the Peggatsu's Invitation, or what have you.

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Speaker 3: So you name it. And I did a race the

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Speaker 3: night before and erase the day of, and I got

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Speaker 3: winners on both of those races. So I have hit

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Speaker 3: a daily double on consecutive races. I think with remote viewing,

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Speaker 3: with my angle, with the operational handicapping and betting and

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Speaker 3: show getting a horse that's going to be in the money,

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Speaker 3: I think a team of remote viewers that do ARV

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Speaker 3: can probably determine what position that horse comes in. It's

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Speaker 3: only three choices. So there's ways I think with remote

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Speaker 3: view into conquer horse racing. Honestly, I don't mean, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, take all the money out of

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Speaker 3: it so nobody can do it anymore, because that would

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Speaker 3: that would probably get me in trouble. But I do

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Speaker 3: think that people could probably make an impact. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of potential in this. I don't do

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Speaker 3: two dollars bets anymore. I've done as much as you know,

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Speaker 3: comes down to the pool. So we know horse racing

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Speaker 3: that we're all putting this money in for the horse.

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Speaker 3: All that money pulls up and if you get into

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Speaker 3: a race that is not you know, a really big race,

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Speaker 3: and if you come at it with two thousand bucks,

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Speaker 3: you've actually just drained the horses odds. So you're risking

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Speaker 3: more money than you should. These big races, you know

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Speaker 3: I mean mind Frame had one hundreds and thousands of

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Speaker 3: dollars in the show pool. Could I could have bet,

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Speaker 3: you know, hypothetically, twenty grand and it wouldn't have affected

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Speaker 3: the horse's odds in any way. So yeah, getting together

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Speaker 3: and doing racing sounds fun.

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Speaker 4: So what is your success rate?

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Speaker 3: My running rate is fifty four to fifty seven percent,

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Speaker 3: and that's honest. I estimated during my twenty sixteen presentation

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Speaker 3: just by stacking all of my sessions, counting hits and misses.

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Speaker 3: It was a pretty good guestimation because when I finally

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Speaker 3: the graph, that was about fifty seven percent. And even

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Speaker 3: in a run of that, it was a small sample.

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Speaker 3: It was one hundred races, you know that I decided

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Speaker 3: to dedicate it to really really keeping track of this

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Speaker 3: very very well and really watch this thing. In small runs,

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Speaker 3: I was at seventy percent, So it's all about being patient.

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