WEBVTT - How Horseshoes Work

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark. There's step Chucker's Bryant. Did I say that

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<v Speaker 1>last time? My name like that? Yeah? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you might have just said I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder we'll find out. How's it going. It's going great.

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<v Speaker 1>We just learned something neat what guest producer Noel to

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<v Speaker 1>our right your Left um Bar podcast todays on horse shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>He took that as a college course called backyard games

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<v Speaker 1>had a gustus state. Yeah, a real college course. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, Baci right, Uh, horse shoes and badminton? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it badminton? I thought we couldn't determine? And then possibly

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<v Speaker 1>um long darts? Okay, so hey, college credit, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I guess you'd have to apply to the

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<v Speaker 1>FTC maybe to get lawn darts as a college kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like how you'd have to apply to the d

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<v Speaker 1>A to get some m d m A to carry

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<v Speaker 1>out some sort of on campus studies, some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>um study. You'd have to Lawn darts are illegal, man, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big time. Do you remember those things that were like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a task force, there's a schedule one backyard game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I bet you can buy him on eBay

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Well, you can probably buy him on still Cross.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just about to say, you got to go

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<v Speaker 1>in the deep web to get I played that when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, though I was smart enough to

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<v Speaker 1>not kill myself for anybody else with them. It's funny

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<v Speaker 1>looking and how dangerous that was. Yeah, And that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the end of that wave because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and like for the a decade or

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<v Speaker 1>two before that, probably longer, it was like you could

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<v Speaker 1>get electrocuted by your toaster pretty easily. Like your humidifiers,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an any percent chances going to catch fire

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<v Speaker 1>while you were asleep. Remember the hydrochloric acid slipping slides. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're awful. Yeah, And they designed them like that so

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<v Speaker 1>that they would be obsolete very quickly, so they acid

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<v Speaker 1>would burn them much more quickly, and you too, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, do you have a great setup for this

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<v Speaker 1>thrilling podcast to come? I'm hungry, so this will explain

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<v Speaker 1>this this set up. Have you ever heard of a

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<v Speaker 1>horseshoe sandwich? No, I haven't. It is a local dallastic

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<v Speaker 1>delicacy out of Springfield, Illinois, and it dates back to

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<v Speaker 1>the early twentieth century. It's for a full size portion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's two pieces of Texas toast, Texas toast nice hamburger,

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<v Speaker 1>patty or ham. Love both ham and hamburger. Well, then

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<v Speaker 1>you probably like them together on each Texas toast slice,

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<v Speaker 1>cover the whole and put them next to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It's open face, cover the whole thing with fries, and

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<v Speaker 1>then top it all with cheese aus just like not

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<v Speaker 1>your cheese sauce. I'm sure there's people out there who

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<v Speaker 1>use cheese was but from what from what I understand

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<v Speaker 1>from my research, Uh, it's more like a Welsh rare

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<v Speaker 1>bit sauce, so like cheese with like um other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that makes it. Wellshare, But that's a horseshoe sandwich and sip.

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<v Speaker 1>In doing research for horseshoes, that was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most interesting things I could come up. Again, I'm hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>so it really jumped out at me. Yeah, why do

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<v Speaker 1>they call it that? I didn't see because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the size of a horseshoe. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked to be the size of a horse. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the shoes underneath. Well, maybe calling it the horse sandwich

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<v Speaker 1>was untoward, so they just horseshoe. Yeah, I'll bet that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it was. Well, anyway, shout out to Springfield, Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>right home of the horseshoe sandwich, um and cardiovascular disease. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I know how you feel about horseshoes. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>love to play horseshoes. Okay, I know how you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about talking about playing horseshoes. Not super exciting. I find it.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it's it's an interesting thing, all right, It's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you actually do get a bit of exercises, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you play competitively. My friend, you can burn as

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<v Speaker 1>much if you're an average show as a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty calories an hour playing horseshoes. You can work off

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<v Speaker 1>a hardboiled egg an hour, yeah, or one hundredth of

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<v Speaker 1>a horseshoe sandwich. Hey, and if you're playing in the backyard,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you've eaten some deviled eggs at a picnic, because

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<v Speaker 1>horseshoes and picnics go together, like ants and picnics. That's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right. I actually love horseshoes. I gotta set um.

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<v Speaker 1>A few years ago when my buddy Justin who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had a Fourth of July party and we set it

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<v Speaker 1>up in this backyard and played and now he kept

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<v Speaker 1>them and I haven't played since. What's the deal. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he just left him at his house, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you need to go again, and those are yours. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't have a Actually I do have an area,

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<v Speaker 1>but like no one comes and hangs out in my backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically everybody hangs out of Justine's. Yeah, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>would play horseshoes together, but it's more fun with a group, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one where you can play individually with two

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<v Speaker 1>people or with pears. Yeah. And it says in the

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<v Speaker 1>article you can play solo. But if you're playing horses spikers, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a sad day for you. It is, um So, chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the h and the origin of the

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<v Speaker 1>horseshoe itself. Of the shoe, I got a little info

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<v Speaker 1>on it, not the game, the shoe, the shoe. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you see a horse in the wild running, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably running for its life. Horses naturally don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>run very much, and of course not their feet gets sore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they don't run very much. So right when

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<v Speaker 1>humans said, hey, I'm gonna ride that thing, they figured

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<v Speaker 1>out we need to put something on its feet because

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<v Speaker 1>little feket store and I don't want to hurt this horse.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get it to run. So probably in

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<v Speaker 1>the Asian steps about a thousand years well about two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years ago, they started putting like booties on their horses.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cute, like herbs and and something to soften the

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<v Speaker 1>blow of the ground. By the turn of that millennium,

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<v Speaker 1>the first or second century a d. People were putting booties,

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<v Speaker 1>leather booties, which the ancient Romans I believe called hippo sandals.

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<v Speaker 1>They basically put sandals on their horses. Finally everybody realized

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<v Speaker 1>all this was idiotic, and you need to put metal

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<v Speaker 1>on a horse. And by a thousand a d uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Like nailing metal horseshoes to the bottom of a horse's

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<v Speaker 1>hoof was very common practice. Well does that not hurt? No, because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like if you have your fingernailst you're quick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you nail the nail through that past the quick,

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<v Speaker 1>not below the quick, but anything that grows out past

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<v Speaker 1>the quick, that doesn't have any nerve endings in it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it's very similar to that. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a huge thick finger nail for the horse. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>a hoof is. So it hurts them to walk on these,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't hurt to have people drive nails into them. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how long the nail is. Now, you could

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<v Speaker 1>easily use a nail that's too long and drive it

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<v Speaker 1>right into the horses foot, which would be very painful,

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<v Speaker 1>But as long as the nail is short enough, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just driving it into something that has no nerve endings,

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<v Speaker 1>and it prevents that foot that's on the other end,

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<v Speaker 1>the inside of the hoof, from becoming sore from walking. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you want to use nails that aren't too long,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why there's a very specific um trade called

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<v Speaker 1>a farrier who knows what they're doing with trimming horses, hoofs,

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<v Speaker 1>shoeing horses, that kind of thing. And there's actually a

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<v Speaker 1>patron saint of farriers. St. Elegius. He said, yeah, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>to have come across a horse that was ailing, remove

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<v Speaker 1>the horse's leg, shoot it, and then put the horse's

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<v Speaker 1>leg back on, and the horses like falling after that,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like hocus pocus magic to me. Somewhere along

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<v Speaker 1>the way, somebody figured out that a horse shoe makes

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<v Speaker 1>for a pretty great stand in for a discus if

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<v Speaker 1>you bend it to close it. Yeah, like the ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Greeks maybe they were into it. Thanks thanks for sitting

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<v Speaker 1>through that intro. I saw a little blood come out

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<v Speaker 1>of your ear. Oh no, uh yeah. The Greeks and

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<v Speaker 1>Romans apparently played horse shoes and uh it like became

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<v Speaker 1>a popular thing in the United States, like after the

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<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary War, and I guess it just caught on. Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's throw these things. So the ancient Greeks were in

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<v Speaker 1>the discus throwing, but you had to be wealthy or

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<v Speaker 1>part of the military to have a discus. If you

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<v Speaker 1>were poor, you had access to horse shoes, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you bent the horseshoes to close them up and through

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<v Speaker 1>like a discuss, you had something called quiats. And then

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<v Speaker 1>one of them landed accidentally on a metal steak, and

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<v Speaker 1>they went, I bet you can't do that again, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they just got lazy and grew tired of

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<v Speaker 1>bending the horse shoes. They're like, well, it's through the

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<v Speaker 1>horseshoes as they are. And the horseshoes is an ancient game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an ancient game, and it's played all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just for suburban American backyards. Uh, South Africa, Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>Italy today, a few Yeah, I bet it's played the

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<v Speaker 1>world wide. Uh. And just here in North America, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million people play. Not necessarily competitive, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like justin yeah, and steal your horseshoes and play with them. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is according to the National Horseshoe Pitchers Association

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<v Speaker 1>or in h p A. And like every sport, there

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<v Speaker 1>is an official governing body and they set the rules,

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<v Speaker 1>they host tournaments. Um, I imagine they sell t shirts

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<v Speaker 1>and hats. They There's also a rock star who his

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<v Speaker 1>name is Alan Francis what I thought you meant, a

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<v Speaker 1>real rock star. He's like, They're like, what's his deal?

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<v Speaker 1>He's just super great. Yeah. There's apparently no sports figure

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<v Speaker 1>in any in all of sports who's who dominates more

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<v Speaker 1>than he does. I'm not kidding this guy, this kid, Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the most dominant sportsman in the world. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>has won fourteen of the last seventeen men's World Championships

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<v Speaker 1>at the nhp A Championship. So what's his name, Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Francis from Defiance, Ohio. So when people say like he's

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<v Speaker 1>the Michael Jordan's horseshoes, what they should say is Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan is the Alan Francis of basketball, right, they really should.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy has you know, which we'll get into. But

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<v Speaker 1>you throw a horse shoe and what you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do is throw a ringer. Yeah, he's got an average

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<v Speaker 1>nine times out of ten when he throws these things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a ringer, not cleaner, not in count it's a ringer.

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<v Speaker 1>No one walking the earth has a ringer percentage like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is amaze. If you want to learn more about

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<v Speaker 1>Alan friends, by the way, read Perfection in the Horseshoe

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<v Speaker 1>Pit from near by. Josh Clark, you wrote a book

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<v Speaker 1>about him. That's sweet. It's a it's cool. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's cool. If there's a guy out there it's like unbeatable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good at horseshoes. This guy would wipe the

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<v Speaker 1>floor with you. Well, of course he would. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>best athlete in the history of humanity sport. But all

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is I'm pretty good at horseshoes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>assume it's because I was pitched softball. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably got something you know, similar motion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there they are. They are similar, And I'm athletic. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one of those people that gets a horseshoe and

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<v Speaker 1>like throws it behind them or over, like on the

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<v Speaker 1>picnic table or anything like that. Yeah, that's good. So

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<v Speaker 1>that means it's your spectator friendly horseshoe thrower. Alright, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into this. Um. Pitching is what you call

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<v Speaker 1>throwing the shoes about twice the size of a regular horseshoe.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, it's not like a little horseshoe you

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<v Speaker 1>pitched to see he goes first, closest to the stake

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<v Speaker 1>goes first. And we need to say right off the

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<v Speaker 1>bat that there are real rules and there are house rules.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always a house rules guy. Yeah, so you're played

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<v Speaker 1>by by Justin's rules. Well, we we co determined the

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<v Speaker 1>rules since I bought the kid. Okay, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>went to say, um, Jake Jillen Hall's house and he

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<v Speaker 1>was playing horse shoes and you would played by his rules,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be like, according to my rules. No, I'd say, Jake,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, what kind of name is Jillen Hall?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'd say, secondly, what are your house rules?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I will abide, I respect the house room. But

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<v Speaker 1>since we bought the kid together, then we made up

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<v Speaker 1>our own rules. Basically, I just want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're saying. That's what I figured. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the points of a game like horse Shoes

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<v Speaker 1>is you can play and make up your own rules.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no big deal. But we're gonna tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>to play a real game if you're into that as well. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the NHP A right, So you pitch, you

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<v Speaker 1>see who goes first. Um, the object if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this by now, is to throw your horse shoe

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<v Speaker 1>uh and have it ring the metal steak that is

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<v Speaker 1>driven into the ground. That will tell you about in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. If you already raise your hand so we

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<v Speaker 1>can send someone to come lay on top of you

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<v Speaker 1>until you pass out from unconsciousness. Exactly. Games are made

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<v Speaker 1>up of innings. Um, you play in pairs and you

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<v Speaker 1>throw two horse shoes, you throw both your horse shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next dude or do debt throws their

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<v Speaker 1>horse shoes. You don't alternate one and one unlets. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to per house rules. House rules. And now there

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<v Speaker 1>are like some details to these rules that like I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't aware of, Like you have to pitch both shoes

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty seconds. It's like chess in the park. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're taking longer than that, like what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Are you measuring that the air? Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like drinking beer and like talking to people who

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<v Speaker 1>are watching, Like, get your head in the game, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what That's what i'd say. Al Right, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we should go over the court and all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>of like regulation. So if you get your horse shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>you at least know how to set it up. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, what's the end of the game. And and

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<v Speaker 1>oh so if we're playing one another, yeah, yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>both pitching towards the same steak. Yes, you pitch your

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<v Speaker 1>two and thirty seconds. I pitched my two in thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds and that's an inning. Yes, And there's no set

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<v Speaker 1>number of innings. But normally people will play until you

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<v Speaker 1>get to forty points. Yeah, I've seen that the common

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<v Speaker 1>backyard horseshoes you played one, but um, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>regulation tournament you're gonna play the forty And it depends

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<v Speaker 1>also saw like Philly rules and stuff like this, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people get local, you get a punch and stomach. Yeah, exactly. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called a court where you where you play. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to play horse shoes in your backyard,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to have like a level, wide open area.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't like you don't want to play it on

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<v Speaker 1>a hill. And there's actually a lot of schematics online

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to build your own horseshoe court. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's go with the basics of the court though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's forty six ft long by six ft wide. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got two pitching platforms, which is where you throw

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<v Speaker 1>it from each six ft square, and you've uh, you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to have protective backboards. I've never seen that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just like, I guess this is so

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't like, you know, tumble on and hit the

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<v Speaker 1>guy at the beer kag, but I usually just dig

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<v Speaker 1>a pit, you know, and like the Chuck House rules

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<v Speaker 1>once again, so what is it then, Like how do

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<v Speaker 1>you lay out like where the end of the boxes

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<v Speaker 1>there's really not an end of the box for the

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck House rules. You're either ringing it, you're leaning it,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're closest to the pin or closest to the steak.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess all the schematics I've seen are like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a defined yeah, like bochy, like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>real deal. Um, So you've got two steaks. Uh. They

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<v Speaker 1>are iron rods about thirty six inches long one inch wide,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are steaked toward each other at roughly a

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<v Speaker 1>twelve degree angle about halfway in. It says about halfway.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that would be like really specific, like

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<v Speaker 1>how many inches above ground? Uh? Yeah, I would think

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<v Speaker 1>so too, but I didn't find that. Apparently, you're also

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to stake it four ft from the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the box, but two ft from the front of the box.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that makes sense. Um, chop up the soil

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<v Speaker 1>or sand if you really want to go the extra mile, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do you should. If you're gonna build yourself a horseshoe pit,

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<v Speaker 1>get some stand. You've got foul lines at twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>ft and thirty seven ft from each steak, and that

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<v Speaker 1>determines where you're gonna throw from. Um they say adult

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<v Speaker 1>men pitched from thirty seven and ladies and old people

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<v Speaker 1>and kids pitch from twenty seven or shorter. The sexist

0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and agists agreed. Um, I say, pitch from wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable. House rules and they they say the backyard

0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.200
<v Speaker 1>games are similar, but like it's usually not like it's

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<v Speaker 1>either like sand or asphalt pits or something whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>can whatever you can accommodate. It's what I say. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's if you don't have that many feet, like make

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<v Speaker 1>it shorter, right, you know, but then you have to

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<v Speaker 1>handicap your score. Really yeah, okay, my house rules are

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<v Speaker 1>very unforgiving. That's why I shoes with you anymore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's talk about pitching then, Okay, you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to how do you pitch a shoe? What's what's

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<v Speaker 1>what are the two methods? Let's first, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the anatomy of a shoe. Let's not forget that horse

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<v Speaker 1>shoes are derived from actual horse shoes which were put

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<v Speaker 1>on horses hoofs. So if you're holding a horseshoe, so

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<v Speaker 1>the two prongs are at the bottom, what's at the

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<v Speaker 1>top then is called the toe. The open space the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite the toe, that's the heel, and then the two

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<v Speaker 1>um I guess parts at the end that kick in

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<v Speaker 1>inward towards the heel. Those are called cocks, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I would have it's backwards in my head. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when you think about how it sits on a

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<v Speaker 1>rss foot, it makes sense exactly. But I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that hell would be hell would be the part you hold,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not. It's the reverse, because how it sits

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<v Speaker 1>on a horse's foot, yeah, exactly. Now, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to throw a we're gonna teach you right now how

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<v Speaker 1>to pitch a horse shoe two ways. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>got shanks too. I don't think we mentioned that those

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<v Speaker 1>are the arms. Yeah, that's right. So you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>toe shanks coming down each side, the heel, the heel,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the things that kick in are called the cocks,

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<v Speaker 1>the hill cocks, heel cocks right, all right. So, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to carry out what's called a single flip pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably the easiest that this is the easiest,

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<v Speaker 1>but Alan Francis does this too, And from what I'm finding,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pro or really good horse shoe pitchers

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<v Speaker 1>use the single flip pitch. So what you do is

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<v Speaker 1>you grab the thing using your thumb and your index finger,

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<v Speaker 1>or your thumb and your index and middle finger. You

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze the toe between that, so you've got them the

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<v Speaker 1>horseshoe level with the ground, horizontally level with the ground

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<v Speaker 1>above it, and uh, you bring your arm back like

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<v Speaker 1>a pendulum. You raise it up again. You swing it

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth until you can feel it. And you

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<v Speaker 1>got to do it within fifteen seconds because you got

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<v Speaker 1>another one to pitch. But right when that thing feels right,

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<v Speaker 1>you let it go when it hits eye level with you,

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<v Speaker 1>roughly whatever feels comfortable, but eye level is recommended. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to send it in an arc about six to

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<v Speaker 1>eight feet into the air, and you can. In this

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<v Speaker 1>method the thing might turn three and sixty degrees once.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why it's called a single flip method. But more

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<v Speaker 1>often than not, if you're a pro, your shoe does

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<v Speaker 1>not turn at all. It follows the arc, but it

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<v Speaker 1>stays flat the whole way. And then right before it

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<v Speaker 1>gets to the steak, the heel caulks drop and hit

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<v Speaker 1>that steak and ring around it, and everybody goes like

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<v Speaker 1>takes a sip of corn waste, and they carry you

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<v Speaker 1>off on your shoulders, on your shoulders. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>flip pitch single flip pitch, uh, more advanced players, and

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<v Speaker 1>they say that this is an easier way to get

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<v Speaker 1>ringers if you're if you can master this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you spent enough years mastering the quarter turn. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>the one in one quarter turn, not the quarter turn.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's others just like three quarter turns one and

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<v Speaker 1>three quarter turns. This is the standard other one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for one. In a quarter turn, you hold the horse

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<v Speaker 1>shoe by the shank, so the opening is to the

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<v Speaker 1>left of your grip if you're right handed, opposite if

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<v Speaker 1>your left the obviously you swing your arm back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth like a pendulum, just like you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the flip pitch. And then, uh, I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>You let it go lower, is that right? Yeah, usually

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<v Speaker 1>when it hits like your thigh area, Okay, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think would give it a higher arc. Is the difference, right,

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<v Speaker 1>sharper arc? Yeah, but you want to keep that shoe

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<v Speaker 1>level to the ground instead of flipping it. Uh, it's turning,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, turning in a quarter until it meets you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the steak. Obviously, your your goal there with the turn

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<v Speaker 1>is to meet the steak with the I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to call him prongs. After we just went over all

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<v Speaker 1>that the cocks facing the steak, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a ringer. Everyone drinks corn whiskey and raises their

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<v Speaker 1>glass for more corn whiskey to be poured into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you get close, you get no points, right

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<v Speaker 1>because close doesn't count in horse shoes. Close only counts

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<v Speaker 1>in horseshoes and hand grenades. Oh is that where that

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<v Speaker 1>comes from? It does? I was being koy. Yes, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you get points by being close. That's where the axion

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<v Speaker 1>comes from. Yeah, it's it's called an in count. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's say you and I are just both thrown. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one inning. We're gonna go score our inning. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say I threw one wild because I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of corn whiskey from all the ringers I threw

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 1>previous to this round, this ending before I got there

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<v Speaker 1>to witness it. And huh, well, I'm just saying like

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<v Speaker 1>you're lying about how many ringers you through. I get there.

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 1>You look earlier through twelve ringers. Okay, that's why I'm drunking.

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<v Speaker 1>So I throw one and it's out of the out

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:19.919
<v Speaker 1>of the court. That's dead. That's a dead shoe. It

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't count. Not a dead ringer. No, but there are

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:26.240
<v Speaker 1>such things. We'll explain that in a second. Um, but

0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.959
<v Speaker 1>I did throw one and it hit the ring and

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<v Speaker 1>it's spun around, and we're doing the all count or

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<v Speaker 1>count all scoring, which means that I get three points.

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<v Speaker 1>Three points. It's the highest you can score. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>threw a ringer two and um, you three years on

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 1>top of mine. You've got three points for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>And then your second ringer it stayed in and I

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<v Speaker 1>only did a stay in. It fell and is leaning

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<v Speaker 1>now vertically up against the steak. It's not around it,

0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's just up against it. It's called leaner. That's

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<v Speaker 1>worth one point. I think that should be two points.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends. Some people do score two points. I've seen

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>videos that that's one. Yeah, I think this is just

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>my opinion. I think it should be three two and

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.360
<v Speaker 1>one not three one and one. It makes sense. And

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<v Speaker 1>the one that I think you're under your house rules

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<v Speaker 1>counts is one point. No matter what, everybody counts as.

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<v Speaker 1>One point is one that lands within six inches of

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<v Speaker 1>the steak. Yeah, well, how we play is um, you

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>just measure with another horseshoe, and if it is within

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<v Speaker 1>the length of the two cocks, you know, that's what

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:36.479
<v Speaker 1>we measure. I don't know if that's six inches or not,

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.959
<v Speaker 1>but that's what we use. That makes sense. Um So

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>three two and one or three one and one, depending

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>on how you're scoring. That's the count all method. Yeah.

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't get this other method. Okay, I'll explain it

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to you. It doesn't make sense to me, it does.

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>It took me many times and I actually had to

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>watch a video to get it. It's complex, but it's

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>not really. It's just sometimes the rules of games are

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<v Speaker 1>hard to right down to get across and writing. Um So,

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<v Speaker 1>the other method of scoring is called cancelation, right, and

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>so in cancelation rules, that one that I threw out,

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<v Speaker 1>that's out. It doesn't count either way. Remember I threw

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that ringer. You threw that ringer on top of mine.

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:21.919
<v Speaker 1>That canceled out my ringer, which made my ringer and

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.199
<v Speaker 1>your ringer they cancel one another out. See that's what

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't get. What's the point. That's the same thing

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 1>as both of us getting three both of us getting zero. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true, but does that just keep the score down?

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<v Speaker 1>Or something. It does. I think also if you're really good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how to cancel other people's points out in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to scoring yourself. But yes, it does. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it extends the game to really because cancelation, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like that keeps the points down and if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get to forty points, that's a long game. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but that one that you threw, that's leaning. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>throw one like that, so there's not one for you

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel out mine, which means you get your points,

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<v Speaker 1>whether two points if you're playing at your house, or

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<v Speaker 1>one point if you're playing in a tournament. So cancelation

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<v Speaker 1>is just if you do something that's the same as

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else, they cancel one another out, and then if

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<v Speaker 1>there's something that's like yours as closer than mine, that

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<v Speaker 1>you get that one point. I mean it makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in a way, and then I like to

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<v Speaker 1>score points, so I would just give everyone points, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing in cancelation points. I'm not gonna win

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<v Speaker 1>any points like because yours is if yours is closer,

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<v Speaker 1>even if mine is within six inches of the steak

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<v Speaker 1>and yours just within six inches, if yours just closer,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the one who gets the point. I don't, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's all like I'm getting all the points in this ending.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that makes for a long game, I would guess,

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<v Speaker 1>although if you have people who are just throwing a

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<v Speaker 1>ring or ring or ringer, a game would probably go

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<v Speaker 1>by like in a in a blink of an eye.

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<v Speaker 1>So cancelation rules are probably for people who are really

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<v Speaker 1>good at horseshoes. Yeah, and I've also seen where a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times you played a win by two. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know is that the official rule or is that

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<v Speaker 1>house I didn't see that anywhere. That's the first first

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<v Speaker 1>person to get to forty. Okay, that may be a

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<v Speaker 1>house rule or a local thing. Yeah, but I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>a win by two. Like it sounds a lot like

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<v Speaker 1>what you're describing as volleyball play one win by two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pink punk two. Right maybe? So WHOA, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we happened upon a magical rule that permeates almost all

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<v Speaker 1>games backyard or otherwise have fun stuff. That's it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you got anything else? No, I, as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I tried be careful. Yeah, And if you have lawn darts,

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>turn them into your local government because you're you're not

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>supposed to have this. Yeah, they're hoarding those for the

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:40.439
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<v Speaker 1>And since I said horse shoes, now it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>message break. Uh. And now it's time for listener mail. Huh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this burning Man correction because uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've never been We didn't get it, all right. That

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>was a tough one. We've never been to Cerne either,

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>but we still talked about a large Hadron collider. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we learned with listener mail that uh, burners take

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<v Speaker 1>their burning seriously. Let's hear about it. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>terrible because I don't have her name, and I apologize

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>about that anonymous burner, but here it is, miss Burner. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck and Josh and Jerry. I was so excited when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you did a podcast on burning Man. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't wait to listen. I went to Burning Man five

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<v Speaker 1>times from two thousand and two thousand five, so she

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>knows what she's talking about. I don't know if y'all would. Um,

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if y'all would get it since you've

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>never been, But you nailed it. You made me laugh

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<v Speaker 1>out loud a number of times. Some people get all

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>serious about it and pretend that it's not all about

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<v Speaker 1>sex and drugs, but just let me tell you, sex

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<v Speaker 1>and drugs are a huge part of it. That place

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't exist without hallucinogenics. I have seen police there and

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 1>that's the one thing he got wrong. I have a

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>friend who was actually arrested for drugs there, so there's

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 1>definitely a police presence. The man is everywhere, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to add Also, even though it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>music festival per se, you can really catch some great

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>acts there on the downlow. We saw Paul Oakenfold there

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand when he was one of the world's

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<v Speaker 1>top DJs. There was no advertising, just word of mouth

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that he was there. We rocked up to see him

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<v Speaker 1>spend an amazing set to about three people. Uh it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool, man, Yeah, very intimate. That's a big name.

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Another cool brush was with music legend Perry Farrell. We

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>saw him dancing at Sunrise and asked him to come

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<v Speaker 1>over to our place to eat cheese and crackers with us,

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and he did. He's really really nice guy and really

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<v Speaker 1>really high and in the burning Man spirit. That no

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<v Speaker 1>sense of them being famous people or being anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than just part of the city like the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 1>All are equal on the player. That's cool. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's good I don't have our name. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>just disappeared into the play exactly like a mirage. So

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