1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: Josh Clark. There's step Chucker's Bryant. Did I say that 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: last time? My name like that? Yeah? I don't know, 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: and you might have just said I don't know. I 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: wonder we'll find out. How's it going. It's going great. 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: We just learned something neat what guest producer Noel to 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: our right your Left um Bar podcast todays on horse shoes. 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: He took that as a college course called backyard games 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: had a gustus state. Yeah, a real college course. And 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: he said, Baci right, Uh, horse shoes and badminton? Was 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: it badminton? I thought we couldn't determine? And then possibly 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: um long darts? Okay, so hey, college credit, which I 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess you'd have to apply to the 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: FTC maybe to get lawn darts as a college kind 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: of like how you'd have to apply to the d 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: A to get some m d m A to carry 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: out some sort of on campus studies, some sort of 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: um study. You'd have to Lawn darts are illegal, man, yeah, 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: big time. Do you remember those things that were like 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: there's a task force, there's a schedule one backyard game. 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: I think, I bet you can buy him on eBay 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: and stuff. Well, you can probably buy him on still Cross. 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: I was just about to say, you got to go 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: in the deep web to get I played that when 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: I was a kid, though I was smart enough to 27 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: not kill myself for anybody else with them. It's funny 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: looking and how dangerous that was. Yeah, And that was 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: kind of like the end of that wave because you know, 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: at the time, and like for the a decade or 31 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: two before that, probably longer, it was like you could 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: get electrocuted by your toaster pretty easily. Like your humidifiers, 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: there was an any percent chances going to catch fire 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: while you were asleep. Remember the hydrochloric acid slipping slides. Yeah, right, 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: we're awful. Yeah, And they designed them like that so 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: that they would be obsolete very quickly, so they acid 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: would burn them much more quickly, and you too, unfortunately. 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: Uh so, do you have a great setup for this 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: thrilling podcast to come? I'm hungry, so this will explain 40 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: this this set up. Have you ever heard of a 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: horseshoe sandwich? No, I haven't. It is a local dallastic 42 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: delicacy out of Springfield, Illinois, and it dates back to 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: the early twentieth century. It's for a full size portion. 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: It's two pieces of Texas toast, Texas toast nice hamburger, 45 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: patty or ham. Love both ham and hamburger. Well, then 46 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: you probably like them together on each Texas toast slice, 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: cover the whole and put them next to each other. 48 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: It's open face, cover the whole thing with fries, and 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: then top it all with cheese aus just like not 50 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: your cheese sauce. I'm sure there's people out there who 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: use cheese was but from what from what I understand 52 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: from my research, Uh, it's more like a Welsh rare 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: bit sauce, so like cheese with like um other stuff 54 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: that makes it. Wellshare, But that's a horseshoe sandwich and sip. 55 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: In doing research for horseshoes, that was one of the 56 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: most interesting things I could come up. Again, I'm hungry, 57 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: so it really jumped out at me. Yeah, why do 58 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: they call it that? I didn't see because it doesn't 59 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: because it's the size of a horseshoe. I don't know. 60 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: It looked to be the size of a horse. Maybe 61 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: the shoes underneath. Well, maybe calling it the horse sandwich 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: was untoward, so they just horseshoe. Yeah, I'll bet that's 63 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: exactly what it was. Well, anyway, shout out to Springfield, Illinois, 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: right home of the horseshoe sandwich, um and cardiovascular disease. Okay, 65 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: So I know how you feel about horseshoes. I actually 66 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: love to play horseshoes. Okay, I know how you feel 67 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: about talking about playing horseshoes. Not super exciting. I find it. 68 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: I find it's it's an interesting thing, all right, It's fun. 69 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: It's you actually do get a bit of exercises, especially 70 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: if you play competitively. My friend, you can burn as 71 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: much if you're an average show as a hundred and 72 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: fifty calories an hour playing horseshoes. You can work off 73 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: a hardboiled egg an hour, yeah, or one hundredth of 74 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: a horseshoe sandwich. Hey, and if you're playing in the backyard, 75 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: maybe you've eaten some deviled eggs at a picnic, because 76 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: horseshoes and picnics go together, like ants and picnics. That's 77 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: exactly right. I actually love horseshoes. I gotta set um. 78 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: A few years ago when my buddy Justin who you know, 79 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: had a Fourth of July party and we set it 80 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: up in this backyard and played and now he kept 81 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: them and I haven't played since. What's the deal. Well, 82 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: I mean he just left him at his house, you know, 83 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: because you need to go again, and those are yours. Yeah, 84 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: but I don't have a Actually I do have an area, 85 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: but like no one comes and hangs out in my backyard. 86 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: Basically everybody hangs out of Justine's. Yeah, and then I 87 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: would play horseshoes together, but it's more fun with a group, sir. 88 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: And that's one where you can play individually with two 89 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: people or with pears. Yeah. And it says in the 90 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: article you can play solo. But if you're playing horses spikers, yeah, 91 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: that is a sad day for you. It is, um So, chuck, 92 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about the h and the origin of the 93 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: horseshoe itself. Of the shoe, I got a little info 94 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: on it, not the game, the shoe, the shoe. So 95 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: if you see a horse in the wild running, it's 96 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: probably running for its life. Horses naturally don't like to 97 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: run very much, and of course not their feet gets sore. 98 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: That's why they don't run very much. So right when 99 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: humans said, hey, I'm gonna ride that thing, they figured 100 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: out we need to put something on its feet because 101 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: little feket store and I don't want to hurt this horse. 102 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get it to run. So probably in 103 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: the Asian steps about a thousand years well about two 104 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, they started putting like booties on their horses. 105 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: That's cute, like herbs and and something to soften the 106 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: blow of the ground. By the turn of that millennium, 107 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: the first or second century a d. People were putting booties, 108 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: leather booties, which the ancient Romans I believe called hippo sandals. 109 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: They basically put sandals on their horses. Finally everybody realized 110 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: all this was idiotic, and you need to put metal 111 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: on a horse. And by a thousand a d uh, 112 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: Like nailing metal horseshoes to the bottom of a horse's 113 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: hoof was very common practice. Well does that not hurt? No, because, um, 114 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: it's kind of like if you have your fingernailst you're quick. Yeah, 115 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: if you nail the nail through that past the quick, 116 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: not below the quick, but anything that grows out past 117 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: the quick, that doesn't have any nerve endings in it, right, 118 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: so you know, it's very similar to that. It's like 119 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: a huge thick finger nail for the horse. That's what 120 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: a hoof is. So it hurts them to walk on these, 121 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: but it doesn't hurt to have people drive nails into them. Yes, 122 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: depending on how long the nail is. Now, you could 123 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: easily use a nail that's too long and drive it 124 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: right into the horses foot, which would be very painful, 125 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: But as long as the nail is short enough, you're 126 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: just driving it into something that has no nerve endings, 127 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: and it prevents that foot that's on the other end, 128 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: the inside of the hoof, from becoming sore from walking. Okay, 129 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: so you want to use nails that aren't too long, 130 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: which is why there's a very specific um trade called 131 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: a farrier who knows what they're doing with trimming horses, hoofs, 132 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: shoeing horses, that kind of thing. And there's actually a 133 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: patron saint of farriers. St. Elegius. He said, yeah, he said, 134 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: to have come across a horse that was ailing, remove 135 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: the horse's leg, shoot it, and then put the horse's 136 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: leg back on, and the horses like falling after that, 137 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: it sounds like hocus pocus magic to me. Somewhere along 138 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: the way, somebody figured out that a horse shoe makes 139 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: for a pretty great stand in for a discus if 140 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: you bend it to close it. Yeah, like the ancient 141 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: Greeks maybe they were into it. Thanks thanks for sitting 142 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: through that intro. I saw a little blood come out 143 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: of your ear. Oh no, uh yeah. The Greeks and 144 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Romans apparently played horse shoes and uh it like became 145 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: a popular thing in the United States, like after the 146 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Revolutionary War, and I guess it just caught on. Well, hey, 147 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: let's throw these things. So the ancient Greeks were in 148 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: the discus throwing, but you had to be wealthy or 149 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: part of the military to have a discus. If you 150 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: were poor, you had access to horse shoes, and if 151 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: you bent the horseshoes to close them up and through 152 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: like a discuss, you had something called quiats. And then 153 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: one of them landed accidentally on a metal steak, and 154 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: they went, I bet you can't do that again, right. 155 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: I think they just got lazy and grew tired of 156 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: bending the horse shoes. They're like, well, it's through the 157 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: horseshoes as they are. And the horseshoes is an ancient game. 158 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: It's an ancient game, and it's played all over the world. 159 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: It's not just for suburban American backyards. Uh, South Africa, Israel, 160 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: Italy today, a few Yeah, I bet it's played the 161 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: world wide. Uh. And just here in North America, apparently 162 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: fifteen million people play. Not necessarily competitive, but you know, 163 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: like justin yeah, and steal your horseshoes and play with them. Uh. 164 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: And that is according to the National Horseshoe Pitchers Association 165 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: or in h p A. And like every sport, there 166 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: is an official governing body and they set the rules, 167 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: they host tournaments. Um, I imagine they sell t shirts 168 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: and hats. They There's also a rock star who his 169 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: name is Alan Francis what I thought you meant, a 170 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: real rock star. He's like, They're like, what's his deal? 171 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: He's just super great. Yeah. There's apparently no sports figure 172 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: in any in all of sports who's who dominates more 173 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: than he does. I'm not kidding this guy, this kid, Listen, 174 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: he's the most dominant sportsman in the world. Yes, he 175 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: has won fourteen of the last seventeen men's World Championships 176 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: at the nhp A Championship. So what's his name, Alan 177 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: Francis from Defiance, Ohio. So when people say like he's 178 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan's horseshoes, what they should say is Michael 179 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: Jordan is the Alan Francis of basketball, right, they really should. 180 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: This guy has you know, which we'll get into. But 181 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: you throw a horse shoe and what you want to 182 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: do is throw a ringer. Yeah, he's got an average 183 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: nine times out of ten when he throws these things. 184 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: It's a ringer, not cleaner, not in count it's a ringer. 185 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: No one walking the earth has a ringer percentage like that. 186 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: That is amaze. If you want to learn more about 187 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Alan friends, by the way, read Perfection in the Horseshoe 188 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: Pit from near by. Josh Clark, you wrote a book 189 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: about him. That's sweet. It's a it's cool. I think 190 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: it's cool. If there's a guy out there it's like unbeatable. Yeah, 191 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at horseshoes. This guy would wipe the 192 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: floor with you. Well, of course he would. He's the 193 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: best athlete in the history of humanity sport. But all 194 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying is I'm pretty good at horseshoes, and I 195 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: assume it's because I was pitched softball. Oh yeah, yeah, 196 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: I think it's probably got something you know, similar motion. Yeah, 197 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: there they are. They are similar, And I'm athletic. I'm 198 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: not one of those people that gets a horseshoe and 199 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: like throws it behind them or over, like on the 200 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: picnic table or anything like that. Yeah, that's good. So 201 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: that means it's your spectator friendly horseshoe thrower. Alright, so 202 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: let's get into this. Um. Pitching is what you call 203 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: throwing the shoes about twice the size of a regular horseshoe. 204 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: First of all, it's not like a little horseshoe you 205 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: pitched to see he goes first, closest to the stake 206 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: goes first. And we need to say right off the 207 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: bat that there are real rules and there are house rules. 208 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: I'm always a house rules guy. Yeah, so you're played 209 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: by by Justin's rules. Well, we we co determined the 210 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: rules since I bought the kid. Okay, but if you 211 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: went to say, um, Jake Jillen Hall's house and he 212 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: was playing horse shoes and you would played by his rules, 213 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: you wouldn't be like, according to my rules. No, I'd say, Jake, 214 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: first of all, what kind of name is Jillen Hall? 215 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: And then I'd say, secondly, what are your house rules? 216 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Because I will abide, I respect the house room. But 217 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: since we bought the kid together, then we made up 218 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: our own rules. Basically, I just want to make sure 219 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. That's what I figured. And that's 220 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: one of the points of a game like horse Shoes 221 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: is you can play and make up your own rules. 222 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: It's no big deal. But we're gonna tell you how 223 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: to play a real game if you're into that as well. Yes, 224 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: according to the NHP A right, So you pitch, you 225 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: see who goes first. Um, the object if you don't 226 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: know this by now, is to throw your horse shoe 227 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: uh and have it ring the metal steak that is 228 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: driven into the ground. That will tell you about in 229 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: a second. If you already raise your hand so we 230 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: can send someone to come lay on top of you 231 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: until you pass out from unconsciousness. Exactly. Games are made 232 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: up of innings. Um, you play in pairs and you 233 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: throw two horse shoes, you throw both your horse shoes, 234 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: and then the next dude or do debt throws their 235 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: horse shoes. You don't alternate one and one unlets. You 236 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: want to per house rules. House rules. And now there 237 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: are like some details to these rules that like I 238 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: wasn't aware of, Like you have to pitch both shoes 239 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: in thirty seconds. It's like chess in the park. Yeah, 240 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: but if you're taking longer than that, like what are 241 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: you doing? Are you measuring that the air? Like you're 242 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: just like drinking beer and like talking to people who 243 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: are watching, Like, get your head in the game, That's 244 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: what That's what i'd say. Al Right, so I guess 245 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: we should go over the court and all that stuff 246 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: of like regulation. So if you get your horse shoes, 247 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: you at least know how to set it up. Well, 248 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: hold on, what's the end of the game. And and 249 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: oh so if we're playing one another, yeah, yeah, we're 250 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: both pitching towards the same steak. Yes, you pitch your 251 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: two and thirty seconds. I pitched my two in thirty 252 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: seconds and that's an inning. Yes, And there's no set 253 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: number of innings. But normally people will play until you 254 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: get to forty points. Yeah, I've seen that the common 255 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: backyard horseshoes you played one, but um, I think a 256 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: regulation tournament you're gonna play the forty And it depends 257 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: also saw like Philly rules and stuff like this, like, yeah, 258 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: people get local, you get a punch and stomach. Yeah, exactly. Um, 259 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: it's called a court where you where you play. And 260 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: if you want to play horse shoes in your backyard, 261 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: you need to have like a level, wide open area. 262 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: You can't like you don't want to play it on 263 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: a hill. And there's actually a lot of schematics online 264 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: if you want to build your own horseshoe court. All right, 265 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: so let's go with the basics of the court though. 266 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: It's forty six ft long by six ft wide. Yes, 267 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: you've got two pitching platforms, which is where you throw 268 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: it from each six ft square, and you've uh, you're 269 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: supposed to have protective backboards. I've never seen that. Yeah, 270 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just like, I guess this is so 271 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't like, you know, tumble on and hit the 272 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: guy at the beer kag, but I usually just dig 273 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: a pit, you know, and like the Chuck House rules 274 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: once again, so what is it then, Like how do 275 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: you lay out like where the end of the boxes 276 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: there's really not an end of the box for the 277 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: Chuck House rules. You're either ringing it, you're leaning it, 278 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: or you're closest to the pin or closest to the steak. 279 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: I guess all the schematics I've seen are like, man, 280 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: it is a defined yeah, like bochy, like it's a 281 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: real deal. Um, So you've got two steaks. Uh. They 282 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: are iron rods about thirty six inches long one inch wide, 283 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: and they are steaked toward each other at roughly a 284 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: twelve degree angle about halfway in. It says about halfway. 285 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: I would think that would be like really specific, like 286 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: how many inches above ground? Uh? Yeah, I would think 287 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: so too, but I didn't find that. Apparently, you're also 288 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: supposed to stake it four ft from the back of 289 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: the box, but two ft from the front of the box. 290 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: All right, that makes sense. Um, chop up the soil 291 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: or sand if you really want to go the extra mile, Yeah, 292 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: do you should. If you're gonna build yourself a horseshoe pit, 293 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: get some stand. You've got foul lines at twenty seven 294 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: ft and thirty seven ft from each steak, and that 295 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: determines where you're gonna throw from. Um they say adult 296 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: men pitched from thirty seven and ladies and old people 297 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: and kids pitch from twenty seven or shorter. The sexist 298 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: and agists agreed. Um, I say, pitch from wherever you 299 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: feel comfortable. House rules and they they say the backyard 300 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: games are similar, but like it's usually not like it's 301 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: either like sand or asphalt pits or something whatever you 302 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: can whatever you can accommodate. It's what I say. If 303 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: it's if you don't have that many feet, like make 304 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: it shorter, right, you know, but then you have to 305 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: handicap your score. Really yeah, okay, my house rules are 306 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: very unforgiving. That's why I shoes with you anymore. Yeah, 307 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about pitching then, Okay, you want 308 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: me to how do you pitch a shoe? What's what's 309 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: what are the two methods? Let's first, let's talk about 310 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: the anatomy of a shoe. Let's not forget that horse 311 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: shoes are derived from actual horse shoes which were put 312 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: on horses hoofs. So if you're holding a horseshoe, so 313 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: the two prongs are at the bottom, what's at the 314 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: top then is called the toe. The open space the 315 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: opposite the toe, that's the heel, and then the two 316 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: um I guess parts at the end that kick in 317 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: inward towards the heel. Those are called cocks, right, yeah, 318 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: And I would have it's backwards in my head. But 319 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: then when you think about how it sits on a 320 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: rss foot, it makes sense exactly. But I would think 321 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: that hell would be hell would be the part you hold, 322 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: but it's not. It's the reverse, because how it sits 323 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: on a horse's foot, yeah, exactly. Now, if you want 324 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: to throw a we're gonna teach you right now how 325 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: to pitch a horse shoe two ways. Yeah, and you 326 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: got shanks too. I don't think we mentioned that those 327 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: are the arms. Yeah, that's right. So you've got the 328 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: toe shanks coming down each side, the heel, the heel, 329 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: and then the things that kick in are called the cocks, 330 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: the hill cocks, heel cocks right, all right. So, if 331 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: you want to carry out what's called a single flip pitch, 332 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: this is probably the easiest that this is the easiest, 333 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: but Alan Francis does this too, And from what I'm finding, 334 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: a lot of pro or really good horse shoe pitchers 335 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: use the single flip pitch. So what you do is 336 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: you grab the thing using your thumb and your index finger, 337 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: or your thumb and your index and middle finger. You 338 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: squeeze the toe between that, so you've got them the 339 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: horseshoe level with the ground, horizontally level with the ground 340 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: above it, and uh, you bring your arm back like 341 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: a pendulum. You raise it up again. You swing it 342 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: back and forth until you can feel it. And you 343 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: got to do it within fifteen seconds because you got 344 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: another one to pitch. But right when that thing feels right, 345 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: you let it go when it hits eye level with you, 346 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: roughly whatever feels comfortable, but eye level is recommended. You 347 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: want to send it in an arc about six to 348 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: eight feet into the air, and you can. In this 349 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: method the thing might turn three and sixty degrees once. 350 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: It's why it's called a single flip method. But more 351 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: often than not, if you're a pro, your shoe does 352 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: not turn at all. It follows the arc, but it 353 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: stays flat the whole way. And then right before it 354 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: gets to the steak, the heel caulks drop and hit 355 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: that steak and ring around it, and everybody goes like 356 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: takes a sip of corn waste, and they carry you 357 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: off on your shoulders, on your shoulders. That is the 358 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: flip pitch single flip pitch, uh, more advanced players, and 359 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: they say that this is an easier way to get 360 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: ringers if you're if you can master this, you know, 361 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: if you spent enough years mastering the quarter turn. I'm sorry, 362 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: the one in one quarter turn, not the quarter turn. 363 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: And there's others just like three quarter turns one and 364 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: three quarter turns. This is the standard other one. Yeah, 365 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: for one. In a quarter turn, you hold the horse 366 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: shoe by the shank, so the opening is to the 367 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: left of your grip if you're right handed, opposite if 368 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: your left the obviously you swing your arm back and 369 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: forth like a pendulum, just like you were going to 370 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: do with the flip pitch. And then, uh, I get that. 371 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: You let it go lower, is that right? Yeah, usually 372 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: when it hits like your thigh area, Okay, which I 373 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: think would give it a higher arc. Is the difference, right, 374 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: sharper arc? Yeah, but you want to keep that shoe 375 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: level to the ground instead of flipping it. Uh, it's turning, 376 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: I guess, turning in a quarter until it meets you know, 377 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: the steak. Obviously, your your goal there with the turn 378 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: is to meet the steak with the I was about 379 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: to call him prongs. After we just went over all 380 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: that the cocks facing the steak, and then you've got 381 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: yourself a ringer. Everyone drinks corn whiskey and raises their 382 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: glass for more corn whiskey to be poured into it. 383 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: So if you get close, you get no points, right 384 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: because close doesn't count in horse shoes. Close only counts 385 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: in horseshoes and hand grenades. Oh is that where that 386 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: comes from? It does? I was being koy. Yes, obviously 387 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: you get points by being close. That's where the axion 388 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: comes from. Yeah, it's it's called an in count. So 389 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: let's let's say you and I are just both thrown. Yep, 390 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: that's one inning. We're gonna go score our inning. Um, 391 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: let's say I threw one wild because I've had a 392 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: lot of corn whiskey from all the ringers I threw 393 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: previous to this round, this ending before I got there 394 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: to witness it. And huh, well, I'm just saying like 395 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: you're lying about how many ringers you through. I get there. 396 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: You look earlier through twelve ringers. Okay, that's why I'm drunking. 397 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: So I throw one and it's out of the out 398 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: of the court. That's dead. That's a dead shoe. It 399 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: doesn't count. Not a dead ringer. No, but there are 400 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: such things. We'll explain that in a second. Um, but 401 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: I did throw one and it hit the ring and 402 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: it's spun around, and we're doing the all count or 403 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: count all scoring, which means that I get three points. 404 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: Three points. It's the highest you can score. Okay, you 405 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: threw a ringer two and um, you three years on 406 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: top of mine. You've got three points for that one. 407 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: And then your second ringer it stayed in and I 408 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: only did a stay in. It fell and is leaning 409 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: now vertically up against the steak. It's not around it, 410 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: but it's just up against it. It's called leaner. That's 411 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: worth one point. I think that should be two points. 412 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: It depends. Some people do score two points. I've seen 413 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: videos that that's one. Yeah, I think this is just 414 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: my opinion. I think it should be three two and 415 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: one not three one and one. It makes sense. And 416 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: the one that I think you're under your house rules 417 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: counts is one point. No matter what, everybody counts as. 418 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: One point is one that lands within six inches of 419 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: the steak. Yeah, well, how we play is um, you 420 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: just measure with another horseshoe, and if it is within 421 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: the length of the two cocks, you know, that's what 422 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 1: we measure. I don't know if that's six inches or not, 423 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: but that's what we use. That makes sense. Um So 424 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: three two and one or three one and one, depending 425 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: on how you're scoring. That's the count all method. Yeah. 426 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't get this other method. Okay, I'll explain it 427 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: to you. It doesn't make sense to me, it does. 428 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: It took me many times and I actually had to 429 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: watch a video to get it. It's complex, but it's 430 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: not really. It's just sometimes the rules of games are 431 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: hard to right down to get across and writing. Um So, 432 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: the other method of scoring is called cancelation, right, and 433 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: so in cancelation rules, that one that I threw out, 434 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: that's out. It doesn't count either way. Remember I threw 435 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: that ringer. You threw that ringer on top of mine. 436 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: That canceled out my ringer, which made my ringer and 437 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: your ringer they cancel one another out. See that's what 438 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't get. What's the point. That's the same thing 439 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: as both of us getting three both of us getting zero. Okay, 440 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: it's true, but does that just keep the score down? 441 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Or something. It does. I think also if you're really good, 442 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: you know how to cancel other people's points out in 443 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: addition to scoring yourself. But yes, it does. I think 444 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: it extends the game to really because cancelation, I mean, 445 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: like that keeps the points down and if you're trying 446 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: to get to forty points, that's a long game. Um, 447 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: but that one that you threw, that's leaning. I didn't 448 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: throw one like that, so there's not one for you 449 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: to cancel out mine, which means you get your points, 450 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: whether two points if you're playing at your house, or 451 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: one point if you're playing in a tournament. So cancelation 452 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: is just if you do something that's the same as 453 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: somebody else, they cancel one another out, and then if 454 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: there's something that's like yours as closer than mine, that 455 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: you get that one point. I mean it makes sense, 456 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: I guess in a way, and then I like to 457 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: score points, so I would just give everyone points, right, Yeah, 458 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: that's the thing in cancelation points. I'm not gonna win 459 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: any points like because yours is if yours is closer, 460 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: even if mine is within six inches of the steak 461 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: and yours just within six inches, if yours just closer, 462 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: you're the one who gets the point. I don't, so 463 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: it's all like I'm getting all the points in this ending. 464 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: But yeah, that makes for a long game, I would guess, 465 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: although if you have people who are just throwing a 466 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: ring or ring or ringer, a game would probably go 467 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: by like in a in a blink of an eye. 468 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: So cancelation rules are probably for people who are really 469 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: good at horseshoes. Yeah, and I've also seen where a 470 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: lot of times you played a win by two. I 471 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: don't know is that the official rule or is that 472 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: house I didn't see that anywhere. That's the first first 473 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: person to get to forty. Okay, that may be a 474 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: house rule or a local thing. Yeah, but I'm always 475 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: a win by two. Like it sounds a lot like 476 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: what you're describing as volleyball play one win by two. 477 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: That's pink punk two. Right maybe? So WHOA, I think 478 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: we happened upon a magical rule that permeates almost all 479 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 1: games backyard or otherwise have fun stuff. That's it, man, 480 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: Do you got anything else? No, I, as much as 481 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: I tried be careful. Yeah, And if you have lawn darts, 482 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: turn them into your local government because you're you're not 483 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: supposed to have this. Yeah, they're hoarding those for the 484 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: the apocalypse. Those are gonna be valuable one day. Message 485 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: break not yet, all right. If you want to learn 486 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: more about horseshoes, or if you just need a handy 487 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: print out of these rules for your own home horseshoe court, 488 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: just type horse shoes in the search part how stuff 489 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: works dot com and it's all right there for you. Uh. 490 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: And since I said horse shoes, now it's time for 491 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: message break. Uh. And now it's time for listener mail. Huh. Yeah, 492 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this burning Man correction because uh, you know, 493 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: we've never been We didn't get it, all right. That 494 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: was a tough one. We've never been to Cerne either, 495 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: but we still talked about a large Hadron collider. Yeah, 496 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: but we learned with listener mail that uh, burners take 497 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: their burning seriously. Let's hear about it. And I feel 498 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: terrible because I don't have her name, and I apologize 499 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: about that anonymous burner, but here it is, miss Burner. Hey, 500 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: Chuck and Josh and Jerry. I was so excited when 501 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: I saw you did a podcast on burning Man. I 502 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: couldn't wait to listen. I went to Burning Man five 503 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: times from two thousand and two thousand five, so she 504 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: knows what she's talking about. I don't know if y'all would. Um, 505 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know if y'all would get it since you've 506 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: never been, But you nailed it. You made me laugh 507 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: out loud a number of times. Some people get all 508 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: serious about it and pretend that it's not all about 509 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: sex and drugs, but just let me tell you, sex 510 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: and drugs are a huge part of it. That place 511 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't exist without hallucinogenics. I have seen police there and 512 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: that's the one thing he got wrong. I have a 513 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: friend who was actually arrested for drugs there, so there's 514 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: definitely a police presence. The man is everywhere, so I 515 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: just wanted to add Also, even though it's not a 516 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: music festival per se, you can really catch some great 517 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: acts there on the downlow. We saw Paul Oakenfold there 518 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: in two thousand when he was one of the world's 519 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: top DJs. There was no advertising, just word of mouth 520 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: that he was there. We rocked up to see him 521 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: spend an amazing set to about three people. Uh it's 522 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: pretty cool, man, Yeah, very intimate. That's a big name. 523 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: Another cool brush was with music legend Perry Farrell. We 524 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: saw him dancing at Sunrise and asked him to come 525 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: over to our place to eat cheese and crackers with us, 526 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: and he did. He's really really nice guy and really 527 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: really high and in the burning Man spirit. That no 528 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: sense of them being famous people or being anything other 529 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: than just part of the city like the rest of us. 530 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: All are equal on the player. That's cool. And uh, 531 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: maybe it's good I don't have our name. Yeah, she 532 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: just disappeared into the play exactly like a mirage. So 533 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: we appreciate that correction, and thank you for the kudos. Yeah, 534 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Um, we appreciate that. If you 535 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: want to correct us on something we got wrong, we 536 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: always love those. Thank you for everyone who who has 537 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: ever written in to correct us. You can tweet to 538 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: us at s y s K podcast. You can join 539 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: us on Facebook dot com, slash Stuff you Should Know. 540 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: You can send us a correction via emails. 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