1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Perts under center, he goes with a pitch to Barkley. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Barkley across the thirty twenty five Tony, good Bye, Bimo Billo. 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: He's unbelievable. He is unbelievable. Saquon Barkley running in for 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: a second touchdown on the night. You can hold him 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: down for a while, you can't hold him down for 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: four quarters. He ends up with one hundred and forty 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: six yards on the ground with two touchdowns. The Eagles 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: beat the Commanders twenty eight twenty six rather to eighteen 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. This was a seven to three game for 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: Washington at halftime, and the Eagles offense got rolling. That 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: was Meryl Reese and Mike Quick on WIP. I'm in 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 2: the garage and I'm looking at my friend Steven Ruiz 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: of the Ringer from Washington, DC. But he's not a 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: Commanders fan, and so he's probably not heartbroken they lost 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: this game. A lot of Commanders fans are who thought 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: this season's gonna be special, and maybe it still will be, 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: but they're at seven and four. There are a couple 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: losses now back of an Eagles team. Steven that just 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: looked like a little tougher A little more grown up, 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: a little more ready for mid November football than Washington did. 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: No the Eagles just like the more talented team, the 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 1: more solid team. Most of these teams take a unique 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: approach to offense, especially on early downs. They have offenses 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: that don't look like any offenses elsewhere in the NFL. 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: But Washington's to this point has been based on one 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: the talent of a rookie quarterback in Jaydon Daniels who's 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: been brilliant but has run into a bit of a 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: rookie wall this last couple of weeks, and then the 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: scheme of Cliff Kingsbury. I always think there's an expiration 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: date on offenses where you're kind of getting by on 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: smoking mirrors a little bit. And I think with the 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Eagles where it's like talent based, like we just have 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: better guys than you at. We have an offensive line 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: that's going to run you over. We have a running 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: back that's going to take advantage of those holes, and 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: then we have two wide receivers that if you leave 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: them one on one on the outside, we're going to 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: do damage to the air. And I think you saw 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: that play out on the field. 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: I love it. You're already planting your flag that the 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: cliff second half collapse is coming. I love that by you, Steven. 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Let's put a pin in that and get to that 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: a little later because that is intriguing. Jayden Daniels has 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: struggled the last couple of weeks. Although the offense, you know, 45 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: had moments against Baltimore tonight, they really didn't end up 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: with two hundred and sixty four yards and that includes 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: a garbage time touchdown drive that they had at the end. 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: They did have a chance with an on side kick 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: under thirty seconds to go, so you know it was 50 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: worth trying for. But most of the night they really struggled. 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: I want to give the Eagles their flowers first, because 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: to me, this was the classic Eagles game of twenty 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: twenty four. If you haven't watched them each and every week, 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: a lot of them have been like this, and by 55 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: that I mean they look kind of disjoined on offense 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: often Jalen hurts sometimes like doesn't make the best decisions 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: in the red zone. For instance, you saw tonight there 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: was a lot of unforced airs. They had a trick 59 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: play which killed the drive, They had a holding penalty 60 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: which killed the drive. They had another drive which had 61 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: a couple of drops, Jake Elliott's missing kicks all over 62 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: the place, two miss field goals in the first half, 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: missed extra point. But at a certain point, their offensive 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: talent seems to just catch up in your and overwhelm 65 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: the opponent. And meanwhile, the defense has been money since 66 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: the bye week, and now this is a better opponent 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: they're going against. They played well against the Bengals as well, 68 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: which was a good offensive opponent. And to me, they 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: are absolutely legit and they make you earn everything, and 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: that combination is a winning combination, because by the fourth 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: quarter of this game, it just felt like the play 72 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: differential the Eagles that had about fifteen to twenty more 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: plays at halftime ended up being too much for Washington, 74 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: and the second half drives for Philadelphia they were leaning 75 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: on them like you could you could see when you 76 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: had the overhead angle. They go field goal, touchdown, touchdown, 77 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: touchdown to end the game, and Saquon with prairies of 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, acreage to run through and he hits it. 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: And it's a great formula as long as they're not 80 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: turning the ball over. It's tough to be. 81 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: It feels partly twenty twenty two Eagles formula. Like when 82 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: they were struggling with the passing game, they could just 83 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: go to that run game and just hammer the same 84 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: run plays over and over and over again. I remember 85 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: there was a game against the Giants where I think 86 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: they ran the same run play out of the same 87 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: formation eight times in a row and the Giants couldn't 88 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: do anything to stop it. It feels like that like 89 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: the pass game isn't quite where it was a couple 90 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: of years ago. But we've also seen highs out of 91 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: the pass game, especially when Jalen Hurts has been pushing 92 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: it deep outside the numbers to aj Brown, to DeVante Smith. 93 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: I think if they can get that going more consistantly, 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: we're going to see this team reach some of the 95 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: highs they reached when they made that run to the 96 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 97 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, tonight, I think Washington's defense did a good job. 98 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: I look, Jalen didn't attempt to throw over twenty yards, 99 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: and he only completed three over ten yards. Everything was short. 100 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: It felt like the two teams were almost in a 101 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: staring contest. In My colleague Jordan Rodrigue The Athletic pointed 102 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: this out on Twitter. That this was clearly Vic Fangio's 103 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: defensive plan. It kind of always is. Jaden Daniels did 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: not throw well against split safety tonight according to next 105 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Gen seven of eleven for thirty two yards. And then 106 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter interception that Reid Blankenship picked off. First 107 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: of all, you know, shout out to Reid Blankenship. He's 108 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: like the closer. He only catches interceptions in the fourth 109 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: quarter and he never drops him. It's kind of an 110 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: underrated aspect to a defensive back, Like a defensive back 111 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: that never drops the interception and suddenly like that ball 112 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: was just rolling down downhill fast in the fourth quarter. 113 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: This was this was a close game that the Eagles 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: didn't even have the lead going into the fourth quarter. 115 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: They take a touchdown drive that ends with the tousch 116 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: push with Jalen Hurts with like twelve minutes ago, and 117 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: after that it was it was all Philadelphia. But I 118 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: think their defensive plan to like make jad and Daniels 119 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: really work down the field slowly and not go to 120 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: his wide receiver is Washington felt caught comfortable playing that way, 121 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: but like they need bigger plays than what they got tonight. 122 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even during their fast dart to the season, 123 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: they weren't getting a lot of like downfield explosive plays. 124 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: A lot of their explosive plays were coming on like 125 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: like yards after catch or Jaden Daniels getting outside the 126 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: pocket and scrambling for a first down. But like we 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: remember the big throws downfield, especially against Cincinnati, the two 128 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: throws on Monday Night, and then he had some other 129 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: like Jayden Daniels, I mean had some other like Marquee 130 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: deep throws. I think he had one against the Ravens. 131 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: I think he had one against the Steelers down the sideline. 132 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: But outside of that, there's not a lot of passes 133 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: going downfield, especially like over the middle of the field. 134 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: And you saw the Eagles kind of take away those 135 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: early down efficient plays and force them into a dropback 136 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: game on third down, and this was one of their 137 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: worst games on third down. I think they were one 138 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: for nine at one point. I know they might have 139 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: improved the stats on that garbage time drive. I guess 140 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: it wasn't garbage time because they cut it to one possession, 141 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: But really before that drive, they weren't really moving the 142 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: ball and third down at all, and that had been 143 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: such a strength for them. They had such great third 144 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: down numbers, such great fourth down numbers. We see a 145 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: fourth down stop on a concept that I know some 146 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: people criticize the play call there, but that's a call 147 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: they've been using a lot on fourth down and having 148 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: a lot of success with it. It hasn't been stopped 149 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: having Jadan Daniels do a little play action fake and 150 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: then roll outside the pocket and either run for it 151 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: or pass for it, and no team has been able 152 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: to stop it. But I think it speaks to how 153 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: much heavy lifting the scheme was doing early on, and 154 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: now that teams kind of have all this film and 155 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: know how they're going to approach games, I think we're 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: going to see them. They're gonna have to come up 157 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: with playing b's and playing seeds going forward. 158 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up that sequence. So after the 159 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: Eagles touchdown, the score is twelve to ten because Elliott 160 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: missed the extra point and Washington is driving, they actually 161 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: have a second and one. They're playing fast, they're playing tempo, 162 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: which is where they've been at their best all season. 163 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: It was the first drive of the night where Jayden 164 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: and Daniels just ripped a couple of confident throws. He 165 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: had one to McLaurin, who only had one catch tonight, 166 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: and that led all wide receivers. Zakias had one, Noah 167 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: Brown had one, Dammy Brown had one, and they totaled. 168 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: Just doing some quick math here for twenty eight yards. 169 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: That's absolutely outrageous. Their wide receivers got absolutely nothing done. 170 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: So it's second and one there in field goal range 171 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: and Jalen Carter to me, makes the play of the night. 172 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: Just I was watching on the Prime Vision view from 173 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: the overhead camera, which is just awesome. And the way 174 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: he shed the tackler. They are impenetrated. I don't think 175 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: many defensive tackles, if any, are gonna make that play, 176 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: and so he forces a third and two. They stuff that. 177 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: It was kind of slow developing. That was a nice 178 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: play too. That brings up the fourth down that you mentioned. 179 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: Let's actually take a listen to that and then we'll 180 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: talk about the decision after that. 181 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: Instead of trying for a game changing field goal that 182 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: would give them a one point lead, they're gonna go 183 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: on fourth and two. Daniel under Sun. Daniels is back. 184 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: He's big, chased, he's running, he's big pushed, He's not kind. 185 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: Of bones the Eagles takeover on downs. Theagles take over 186 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: a down that was a great call there again by 187 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: by Merlo Reese and Jalen Carter busted up that play 188 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 2: too at the beginning. I know they fumbled the snap 189 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: a little, but that is an incredible sequence. This guy 190 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: had three quick pressures tonight according to the next Gen stats, 191 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: like he is having that second year leap. I don't 192 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: even know if his raw numbers are that crazy, I 193 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: honestly don't know, but just by the eye test and 194 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: the film and everything, he's having that second year leap, 195 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: like he might be an all pro right now. And 196 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: that sequence with the fourth down stop two, which which 197 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: they make a good play on the edge he started 198 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 2: that play. 199 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of reminds me of watching like a 200 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: young Aaron Donald, where you didn't even need to see 201 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: the numbers. You just you saw ninety nine just blowing 202 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: up every play. Every time you watch on the game pass, 203 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: the condensed version, you'd see ninety nine breaking into the backfield. 204 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how it feels with ninety eight 205 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: on the Eagles right now. And there were times when 206 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: like Washington had a good play call on like they 207 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: had the numbers in the run box, they had the 208 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: blockers there, and then an Eagles defensive lineman, usually Carter, 209 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: would just blow up the play. And that's the difference 210 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: between these two teams right now. One is a finished product, 211 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: or as close to a finished product as you can 212 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: get with them, kind of like bouncing back after the 213 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: last year. And then you have Washington, a team that's 214 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: still trying to learn how to build around this young 215 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: quarterback who has who has given them a spark. But 216 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're ready for games like this 217 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: at this point in the season yet. 218 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, I was not expecting to come 219 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: into tonight and hear some Jaden skepticism from Steven Ruiz 220 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: where's he at in your QB rankings? But it kind 221 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: of makes sense, and I don't disagree with anything you're saying. 222 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: I do think he was erratic last week, which was 223 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: like a little concerning. You know, he missed more throws 224 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: than you would expect it, but there were the big 225 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: plays and he's really avoided big mistakes, which I think 226 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: is really to his credit, and that was true in 227 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: this game too. It is impressive for a rook But 228 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: am I fair to pick up on a little bit 229 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: of Jaden Daniel's rookie season skepticism and where is he 230 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: in the rankings? Just tell me that too. 231 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: He's like, I think he's like eighteen seventeenth. Now I'd 232 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: like to slow play it with the rookies. I don't 233 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: like to, you know, give him your ranking. 234 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: To be clear, is kind of like an all encompass scene, 235 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: like how good are they at the NFL level? Y, 236 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: that's fair, guys with seven years of experience is tough 237 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: to top that. 238 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: But most of my skepticism has to do with Cliff 239 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Kingsbury in the offense. Like I think, like every rookie, 240 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to be skeptical that they're going to be 241 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: able to carry over a hot start to the rookie 242 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: season to the second half, especially when the schedule gets tougher. 243 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: But I think Jaden Daniels' skills I don't question those, 244 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: like the skills that have allowed this offense to operate 245 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: like it's operating. That's like precise accuracy, especially underneath twenty yards. 246 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: And then his ability to run. Now we have seen 247 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: him kind of lose that. I don't know if it's 248 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: the injury I don't know if he's hesitant to take 249 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: some hits now after the rib injury, but he's not 250 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: making guys miss in the open field as much as 251 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: he did early on. I mean, we'll see how that 252 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: goes going forward after he gets healthy, but that would 253 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: be my one concern with him individually. But I think 254 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: the more that teams are able to like sit on 255 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: some of these concepts that Washington has had a lot 256 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: of success with and they start to figure out how 257 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: they're using the no huddle in the second half, I 258 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: think it's just gonna get a little bit harder. I 259 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: don't think like they're gonna go away. I don't think 260 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: this offense is a complete fluke, and I think Jayden 261 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Daniels is going to end up winning Rookie of the 262 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Year and we're still going to feel good about him 263 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. I just don't think 264 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be that, Oh, he's a top five 265 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: quarterback based on production and maybe even an MVP candidate 266 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: by the end of it. 267 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I was saying two weeks ago, I thought he 268 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: was an MVP canning just because the offense is based 269 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: around him and he transformed a team that just wasn't there, 270 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: and it was hard to argue with the efficiency. I 271 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: think it's just the schedule. You played two of the 272 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: better defenses right now in the league. I'm comfortable putting 273 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: Philadelphia there as a top eight defense, whatever the number is. 274 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: Certainly Pittsburgh is there too, and so you play some 275 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: better defenses and they won more than they lost. They 276 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: weren't disasters on offense this last two weeks. They didn't 277 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: make huge critical mistakes. They put up some points against Pittsburgh, 278 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: but it was a lot of failed drives. Let's talk 279 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: about the fourth down decision, because, as you heard on 280 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: that call, Merril Reese is a little surprised they could 281 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: have attempted a kick there with their backup kicker Zane 282 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: Gonzalez to take a thirteen to twelve lead. What do 283 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: you think about the decision by dan Quinn there. 284 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's fine. I know it was 285 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: a low scoring game and you want all the points 286 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: you can get, but the Eagles were moving the ball 287 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: even in the first half. Like they missed the field goals. 288 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: Jake Elliott missed his two field goals, they missed the 289 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,239 Speaker 1: extra point, so I think the score was being suppressed 290 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: a little bit and it wasn't actually indicative of how 291 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles were moving the ball. And then Washington has 292 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: been money on fourth down all year long. They've been 293 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: going forward on fourth and short all year long. To 294 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: stop doing that, to go against your identity and the 295 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: biggest game of the season, I think that sends the 296 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: wrong message to your locker room. And it says like 297 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: if dan Quinn does that, and I was in that 298 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: life where I'll go, oh, he was scared of the moment, 299 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: like he's done. He does it against the Bucks, He's 300 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: not going to do it against the Eagles in primetime. 301 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: I would question him after that. 302 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. I agree with all that, and 303 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: I give maybe I'm giving dan Quinn too much credit. 304 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: What I hate about coaches sometimes is when they don't 305 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: feel like they have a flow of the game or 306 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: they know where their strengths are, they know where their 307 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: weaknesses are in a certain game or in a season 308 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: in general. Sean McVay is like that sometimes. With his 309 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: fourth down decisions and the way this game was going, 310 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: I think dan Quinn knew the burst was about to 311 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: break with his defense. He had just given up a 312 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: drive where they got absolutely gashed. The play disparity, as 313 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: I was saying, was pretty massive and a field goal 314 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: was not going to win this game. Like he I 315 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: think he felt the way that game was going, they 316 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: needed to stay on the field longer. They need to 317 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: try to get seven if they can, and if they 318 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: can't pick up one yard over a three play sequence, 319 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: it's like bully to you, you're you're better than us today, 320 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: Like we need to be able to prove that we 321 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: can do this because everyone honking about not going for 322 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: that field goal. Oh, would have changed the momentum of 323 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: the game. It's like Philadelphia was gonna keep scoring. They 324 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: probably were going to score a touchdown or two more, 325 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: which they did not that dan Quinn is thinking we're 326 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: about to give up like two massive, big games. But 327 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: I think he knew they probably needed a touchdown to 328 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: possibly win this game and they didn't get it. And 329 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: you got to give him credit, Zach Bond on that 330 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: play on the outside, red blanken chip on the outside. 331 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: Their defense has really been special. No one is older 332 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: than twenty seven years old on their starting defense, which 333 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: is just crazy. They they had wanted Vic Fangio in 334 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Philadelphia for a few years and they got him, and 335 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: I just was wondering if it was gonna work because 336 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: Fangio's defenses over the last handful of years haven't been amazing. 337 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: And the first month of the season they're figuring out. 338 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: And now you see how great Quinnon Mitchell has been. 339 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: He was against Terry McLaurin tonight, and Cooper Degen comes in. 340 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: You're getting much better play out in Na Kobe and 341 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: Nolan Smith has a big sack tonight. Josh Sweat, you know, 342 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: is doing his normal thing. It's like, this is a 343 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: pretty good defense and that Fangio higher like looks like 344 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,359 Speaker 2: one of the better coaching highers of the offseason. 345 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a big bounce back year for Vic 346 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: Fanjo and really the Vic Fangio tree, which had been 347 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: like so in vogue a couple of years ago and 348 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: then fell out of favor, and then Vic Fangio was 349 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: I think Jalen Ramsey criticized him in Miami last year. 350 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: I think because they weren't playing enough man coverage, and 351 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: then he goes to Philadelphia and he gets man corners 352 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: and they're playing man coverage. They're majoring in man coverage, 353 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: and I think that was a big reason why they 354 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: matched up so well with Washington today. And really, if 355 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: you could play man coverage, you can match up with 356 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: any offense. The man coverage is like the catch all 357 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: solution to any offensive or any problem the offense can present. 358 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: So and I don't think that's going away. I think 359 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: these corners are legit, and I think that's the big 360 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: difference between last year and this year. You have more 361 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: synergy between the pass rush the defensive line, which is 362 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: playing better, granted, but you're also getting better coverage on 363 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: the back end, so those guys have a little bit 364 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: more time to get after the passer and we're seeing 365 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: the fruits of that. 366 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's crazy they really did in one offseason. 367 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: They were smart to keep slayh. I never thought they 368 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: were gonna get rid of him anyways, But he's having 369 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: a good year. John C. Gardner Johnson hasn't really worked out. 370 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 2: He's probably the one guy that they're not thrilled with 371 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: in the back end, although he had a decent game tonight. 372 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 2: But then the two rookies, what do you think of 373 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: Reid Blankenship and Cooper dejen showing up to the stadium 374 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: tonight wearing exciting Whites T shirt. I think that's officially 375 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: the nickname Exciting Whites. 376 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's a good sign. The vibes 377 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: are good. The vibes haven't been this good in Philadelphia 378 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: since the twenty twenty two season, or maybe even the 379 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen season when they're wearing the underdog masks in 380 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But yeah, they are exciting whites. Like Cooper Degene, 381 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess a lot of people like want 382 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: to call him a Gimmi because he's a white quarterback, 383 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: but he could play. He's a good player. And Quinnon 384 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: Mitchell is the type of player who can transform a 385 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: secondary and allows you to do different stuff in the 386 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: back end. Like I think, if they're not getting the 387 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: years they're getting out of Cooper Degene and out of 388 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: Quinn and Mitchell, this defense looks a lot different, Like 389 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: how Vic Vangiem was calling. The defense looks a lot different. 390 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: And I think this game tonight would have looked a 391 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: lot different. 392 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and back Bond with a couple of nice 393 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 2: plays early in past deflection he's been he's been awesome. 394 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: And and Na Kobe Deane's been rock solid. I had 395 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: someone in Philadelphia was interesting because Quinya Mitchell was playing 396 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: slot corner in training camp, and actually the Beat reporters 397 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: were like wondering, Hey, what's going on here, Like is 398 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: this is this going well? They seem they seemed uncertain, 399 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: And someone you know, within within the organization told me, 400 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: like very early on, they're like they were so excited 401 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: about quinn I Mitchell. They're like, oh, man, we got 402 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: this one right, Like this is like try to keep 403 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: keep a lid on it, but just feeling internally like, man, 404 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: this guy is gonna be really good. And I was like, Oh, 405 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: that's interesting. That's different than than what we've heard in there. 406 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: The confidence has been absolutely born out and and yeah, 407 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: like maybe Hurts can be a little skittish here and there, 408 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: and maybe it doesn't matter if it's a run first offense. 409 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 2: It really is kind of a run first offense. They 410 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: were so patient. He was fifteen for fifty six in 411 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: the first half of this game, Saquon, Like they weren't 412 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: getting a lot of push, like they're getting three four yards. 413 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: They weren't unsuccessful runs, but they weren't busted open. But 414 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: they stayed patient. And then late in the game Becton's 415 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: making blocks. My Latta's out there. The Jurgens had a 416 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: one crazy block where he just lifted a guy in 417 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: the air, like got Her is pumping his fists after 418 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: one of his seal blocks. I think on a Saquon play, 419 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: it's just it's it's all kind of cohesive and it 420 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: looks cool. 421 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, it feels like the opposite of last year. 422 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. And yeah, I there are 423 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: concerns about Hurts. I've been a little I've been skeptical 424 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: of Jalen Hurts in the past couple of years. And 425 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: you can you can have your criticism about him holding 426 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: onto the ball in the pocket. I think he did 427 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: that a couple times tonight. He missed some open receivers. 428 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: But I think all of those criticisms were true in 429 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and that didn't stop them from rolling 430 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: over the NFC. Like he wasn't that great in the 431 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: pocket that year just didn't matter. And I think they 432 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: have the same ecosystem once. 433 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that super Bowl man, that super Bowl is beautiful. 434 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you get him to the Super Bowl, he's 435 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: capable of producing the performance like that. You could beat 436 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: anybody you can almost beat Patrick Mahomes, but Patrick Mahomes 437 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: was just perfect on that night. Yeah. I mean, I'm 438 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: not going to say they're going to win the NFC, 439 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: but I would not be surprised if they're in the 440 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: NFC Championship. And if you would have asked me about 441 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: this team ceiling a month ago, I would not have 442 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: said that. And I think one of the big differences 443 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: the receivers are back, and that stretch without those receivers 444 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: kind of poisoned our perception of them. I think I 445 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: think it made me a little bit too low on 446 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: them and what they could be. And now that I've 447 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: seen that receiving core back and what Saquon can do 448 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: with them around, and with that offensive line, how it's rolling, Like, Yeah, 449 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: this offense could be like a top five unit at 450 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: its best. 451 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're cross your fingers, like quite healthy right now. 452 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: They get my Lota back and is a very important 453 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: player for them. So yeah, when they were missing Goddar 454 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: and Brown at the same time, and they're underfeeded with 455 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: AJ Brown, especially if you watch those first games that 456 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: Brown was back, like he just was the whole passing game. 457 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean, they just spam him on a slant whenever 458 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: they need it, or a go ball, and Jalen throws 459 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: those well, and A J. Brown's that good. I mean tonight, 460 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't pop off the screen. He's five for sixty five. 461 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: But I would just say in terms of value to 462 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: his team, he is as valuable as any wide receiver 463 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 2: in the league. I'm not gonna say like he's ahead 464 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: of Jefferson or Chase, but I think it's right there. Like, 465 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: I think he's as valuable to the Eagles as any 466 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: wide receiver is to their team. 467 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: And like you've heard the criticism about this offensive scheme, 468 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: it's been like one of the most criticized schemes over 469 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: the last two years. Whereas like Justin Jefferson is getting 470 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: a lot of scheme help in Kevin O'Connell, Whereas the 471 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: Eagles like scheme is just like AJ Brown running a 472 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: straight line. AJ Brown takes two steps in a slant 473 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: and like you said, it's open every time. It's easy money. 474 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: I know they missed on a couple throws today, but 475 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: that's the exception to the rule. Usually that go ball 476 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: outside the numbers has been money for them, and especially 477 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: against this opponent, so I am kind of impressed with 478 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: what Washington did, especially in the secondary in this game, 479 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: because they've had trouble defending this offense when it's rolling, 480 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: especially those two guys on the outside. The last couple 481 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: of years, those guys have went wild on their secondary 482 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: and it didn't happen tonight. 483 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be 484 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: back in just a second. So your family are Commander fans. Yes, okay, 485 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: First of all, how is that you grew up, as 486 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 2: you know, Washington in a Washington household and then you 487 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: become a Panthers fan, And then how has it been 488 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: this transition to Commander Land with Jane Daniels for them 489 00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: and everything. 490 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're excited. My mom texted me on a Sunday 491 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: and she texted it was like it was like a 492 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: month ago and she just texted me the number twenty 493 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: three with the question mark, and I had no idea 494 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: what it meant. I was like, what does that mean? 495 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: And that's what I had Jaden Dangel's ranked at the time, 496 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: and she was questioning. She was texting me on a 497 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: Sunday to yell at me about my rankings. And then 498 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, I think, no, No, it's before the 499 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: it was right before the bill bears Hail Mary. She 500 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: calls me and she's just like talking about the Commanders 501 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, Mom, I'm writing I have to podcast, 502 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: like this is my busiest day of the week. Why 503 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: are you calling me right now? And then I hung 504 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: I hung up the phone, and then literally like five 505 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: seconds later, Jadan Daniel Stow's that touchdown for the win. 506 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: That that is incredible, And yeah, I want to speak 507 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: to the Commanders fans out there, because man, they're a 508 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: group that's hungry. They have so many fans and they're 509 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: out here in Los Angeles too, and I know a 510 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: couple of them, and I think they're like heartbroken and 511 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: they're like they're like mad. I think they're going to 512 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: be mad after this game that they did not look 513 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: quite in the same class of Philadelphia. And I'm just thinking, like, 514 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: enjoy this journey here, because here's what's gonna happen. You're 515 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: seven and four. Let's look a little big picture. They're 516 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: gonna make the playoffs. Their next two games are against 517 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: Dallas and against Tennessee. Then they have a bye. They're 518 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: gonna I think they're gonna win those games. They've they've 519 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: really shown they're able to beat bad teams, and those 520 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: are really bad teams right now. So they can be 521 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: nine to four. They can head into the buye. They 522 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: have two games left all season against teams with winning records. 523 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: One of them is the Falcons. That's a very winnable game, 524 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: one of the worst probably teams with a winning record 525 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: in the league, like certainly that's that's a coin flip 526 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: game at worst. And the other game is the week 527 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: before it, and that's home for Philadelphia in week sixteen. 528 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: I posit that home game against Philadelphia in week sixteen, which, yeah, 529 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: you know, Philadelphia show tonight. They're probably a better team, 530 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: but I think Washington beat them in a given day. 531 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: I still think that'll be for the division lead at 532 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: that point, because the Eagles are eight and two, they 533 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: have to play another game, they have another buy They're 534 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: at the Rams, that's tricky. At Baltimore they have the Panthers, 535 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: so that's a layup. Then they're home for Pittsburgh. That's 536 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: all before that Commander's rematch. Those are three tough games 537 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: in there. I think the Commanders are gonna hang in 538 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: this thing. The Eagles will probably have three losses like 539 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: at best going into that game, and you'll have a 540 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: chance to get a spot for first place in freaking 541 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: Week sixteen, a year after what everything that happened last year. 542 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: In like worst case scenario, you lose that game to Philly, 543 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: you don't win the division, You finish the season with 544 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: the Falcons and the Cowboys, you probably getting to ten 545 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: or eleven wins, and you're probably going to the playoffs. 546 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: So like it's house money. And I also think like 547 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna be playing big time games like the week 548 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: of Christmas this year, So this loss does not feel 549 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: like overly devastating to me. Philadelphia to me had to 550 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 2: kind of get this game in hand considering the schedule 551 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 2: that's coming up. 552 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even when, like this team has made the playoffs, 553 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: which hasn't happened much in the last two decades, but 554 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: every time they've kind of had a rally at the 555 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: end of the year to make it. Like even in 556 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: twenty twelve with RG three, I think they were like 557 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: three and five at at one point, maybe even a 558 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: worse record than then. They really had to win down 559 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: the stretch. Kirk Cousins had to come in and win 560 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: a couple a game or two to just get them 561 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: into the wildcard. Two thousand and five, I think that's 562 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: when Sean Taylor was killed and they had a rally 563 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: then with Joe Gibbs, when Tyler hennicky, when they played 564 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: the Bucks in the in the playoffs a couple of 565 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: years ago, like they weren't. They didn't look like a 566 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: playoff team until like the last week of the year, 567 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: and I think they won with some like ungodly record. 568 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: This year, they're actually like winning wire to wire, and 569 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: this feels like a race that you can pay attention 570 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: to every week. Like I'm with you. I think, no 571 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: matter how this sence, you should be happy because this 572 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: is the first time you've been able to follow a 573 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: team like this for I don't know, maybe before the 574 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: turn of the century. 575 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: All right, So the only game I didn't mention, by 576 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 2: the way, on the schedule was a game against the Saints. 577 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: So men, you got two games against the Cowboys, the Saints, 578 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: and the Titans. If you just can win those games, 579 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: you're at eleven wins right there, without even beating another 580 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: good team. And yeah, that two thousand and five team, 581 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: I sneaky enjoyed that team that was like the Mark 582 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: Brunell team, right, And then did we have a Chris 583 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: Simms appearance? 584 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: They beat Chris Sims in the wildcard round, Yes, that's right, 585 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: and then they lost to Seattle, and then Seattle beat Carolina. 586 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: I was really rooting for Washington to win that game 587 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: because I knew Carolina was gonna get washed by Seattle 588 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: and in Seattle, and that's exactly what happened. 589 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, so big winners tonight. Eagles fans, they can you know, 590 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: they can enjoy beating Josh Harris, the Commander's owner at 591 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: a time where they are not happy with their seventy 592 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: six ers. And just before we go, I just have 593 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: to give a shout out to Joe Shane because like 594 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: whatever he thought that the Giants g I should preface, 595 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: you know that famously in Hard Knocks saying that like 596 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: we didn't give our quarterback forty million dollars the handoff 597 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: to a twelve million dollars running back, whatever he thought 598 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: could have been the worst possible worst case scenario, and 599 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: whatever was in John Mara, the owner's mind, when he 600 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: you know, was saying he hopes that it wouldn't go 601 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: to Philly. Whatever the worst case scenario is, this is 602 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: so much worse. 603 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Right, Like, plenty plenty of gms have let players walk 604 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: and have lived to regret it. But none of them, 605 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: literally none of them have had HBO come in and 606 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: document the mistake in their building. 607 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: Right, but have how many though, have let go the 608 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: franchise's best player at the time, in his prime and 609 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: he goes to a division rival who's much better and 610 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: he has like an offensive Player of the Year type 611 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: of season, Like I don't know how many times that's happened. 612 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: My rule in the NFL it was always like teams 613 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: never let players that they want to keep go, Like 614 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: it's pretty easy to like, if a player leaves in 615 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: the middle of their prime, it's usually because like they 616 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: kind of wanted him to leave, which was true here. 617 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: They did want Saquon Barkley to leave. It just was 618 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: it just could not have worked out any worse or 619 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: better for the Eagles and for us because if he 620 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: was in New York, like this wouldn't be happening. So 621 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: I might be talking from the biased viewpoint of a 622 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley fantasy owner that's like always mad when he 623 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: goes down at the one, but it always works down, 624 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: It works out in the end. 625 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: Uh, where are you at an Offensive Player of the Year? 626 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you someone that says no quarterback can 627 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: win Offensive Player of the Year. It's only going to 628 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: a non quarterback. 629 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: Now, Yes, I just used to refuse to acknowledge it. 630 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: I hated it because quarterbacks kept getting it, and I 631 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: just thought it was stupid. It was the dumbest protest 632 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: in the history of protests was NFL dot COM's editors 633 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: would send us to fill out all the awards, and 634 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: I just I just would skip offensive players. No one, 635 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: no one else knew other than them that I was, 636 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: you know, protest. That was just so stupid. But now 637 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: non quarterbacks should get awards, So they should have a 638 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: like a non quarterback award, and then they should have 639 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: an offensive Lineman award too. So yes, so I would 640 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: say yes. So you would think, right now, who would 641 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: it be? It would be It would be Saquon, it 642 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: would be Derrick Henry her, it would be Chase maybe 643 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: you know that. 644 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: I guess in the mix, I would give it to Saquon, 645 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: Like what I would really do is give it to Lamar. 646 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: I would give it. I know you hate giving it 647 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: to quarterbacks, but like, I feel like he has at 648 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: least like a dual threat impact on that offense. Like 649 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 1: he is the focal point of the run game in 650 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: the pass game. 651 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: So he wins ball. 652 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're not going to give it to Lamar, 653 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: I would give it to Saquon over Derrick Henry. And 654 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: my my reasoning is simple. I'm not voting an offensive 655 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Player of the Year who's not the best player on 656 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: his own offense. And I think Saquon Barkley has been 657 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: far and away the best player on his offense. And 658 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: that's only really because A. J. Brown has been hurt. 659 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: I think if A J. Brown's in there, you can 660 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: make a debate about that. But Saquon has just been 661 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: like everything for this team, and when they've gone bad 662 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: on offense, they've just been like, let's press the Saquon 663 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: button over and over and over again, and eventually something 664 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: good's going to happen that and it has. It has 665 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: literally every time they've won, it's been Squon having a 666 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: great game. 667 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: Right, I'm looking at the numbers. He he's up. He 668 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: was at eleven hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage before 669 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: this game and then adds what almost two hundred tonight, 670 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: Like he's maybe over six yards per Kerrie still on 671 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: the season, which is crazy. They need to work, you know, 672 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: be a little careful with his usage. He is. He 673 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 2: is on pace for like a monster workload. But I 674 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: like that. I don't like the Lamar thing, just because 675 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: I never really understood some of the years when the quarterback, 676 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: the same quarterback would win Offensive Player of the Year 677 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: and and MVP. It like it didn't really have any 678 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: rhyme or reason. It wasn't like super duper years they 679 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: get both. It was more just like there wasn't good 680 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: candidates or votes got split. Its just if the awards 681 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: that vague. I don't like it. And yes, I think 682 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,239 Speaker 2: we if offensive linemen can't possibly win any awards, then 683 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: we should. We should come up with an award for 684 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman. 685 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: That's a good doll. I'm with that. 686 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: The Brian Balden the award. Stephen Ruiz, you can check 687 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: him out at the Ringer The Ringer Football Show. He 688 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: has a cat. What's what's his or her name? 689 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: Her name is Ronda. 690 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: Shout out to Ronda, Shout out to your your mom, 691 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: did she send you any text tonight. 692 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: And I'm actually I'm actually kind of concerned she didn't 693 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: text me tonight. I'll call her tomorrow. 694 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: It was it was a late night and uh yeah, 695 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: it was a long week here. This is one of 696 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 2: those weeks. How did I actually went to a concert? 697 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm I'm feeling it at my age. So I'm I 698 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: am glad we are done with Thursday night football. The 699 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: Picks show that we do every week will be on 700 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: Friday afternoon, me and Cynthia Freeland. I'm on a heater there. 701 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: Sixth straight wins on that, so check that out Friday afternoon. 702 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: Uh until then for Stephen Ruiz, Yeah when uh when 703 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: Sake on Barkley is just making that crowd at the 704 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: link go crazy. You know football is back to see you, 705 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: Fredick 706 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: M hm