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Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space.

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Speaker 2: We need to as much as we can lean into

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Speaker 2: our joy because this world, if we let it, it

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Speaker 2: is dark. There are a lot of lessons that we

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Speaker 2: can learn about leaning into our imagination, leaning into our joy,

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Speaker 2: and celebrating our kids.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration,

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Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting.

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Speaker 4: Women like you.

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Speaker 3: We're your hosts, doctor Dominique Broussard, a college professor and psychologist.

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Speaker 5: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a

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Speaker 5: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please

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Speaker 5: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from

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Speaker 5: five roids to fake friends, and create a safe space

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Speaker 5: where black women can.

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Speaker 6: Just be.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 5: Ladies, today, we have a very special guest in cultivating

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Speaker 5: her space. Her resume and experience exudes black girl magic,

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Speaker 5: and when you think of her, you might think of

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Speaker 5: career goals, or black excellence or something else that's just amazing. Okay,

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Speaker 5: so just get ready, get ready for this bio, y'all.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Quotilled Ewing is vice president of Strategic Communications for the

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Speaker 5: Chicago Community Trust. She served in Mayor rom Emmanuel's administration

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Speaker 5: as the chief of Strategic plan and as the director

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Speaker 5: and on the record spokesperson for President Obama's re election campaign,

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Speaker 5: leading its community press efforts. Ewing started her career in

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Speaker 5: CBS News before moving to The Oprah Winfrey Show as

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Speaker 5: a producer. Her goal is for people to see more

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Speaker 5: children of color in books that are not primarily defined

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Speaker 5: by race or struggle, but by belonging and joy. A

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Speaker 5: graduate of Syracuse University's Si K new House School of Communications,

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Speaker 5: she currently lives in Chicago with her husband and two children.

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Speaker 5: Quo Twoled, Welcome to cultivating her space.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Thank you for having me,

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Speaker 2: and yes, I know this is a real space. And

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Speaker 2: you just saw my husband trying to woosh my daughter

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Speaker 2: up to bed at let's see, thirty minutes past her bedtime.

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Speaker 2: So this is real, Yes, it is.

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Speaker 4: And I mean how fitting that they walked by right

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Speaker 8: I mean they found that.

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Speaker 2: On queue as if on que I did not produce

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Speaker 2: that moment though, I promise you, because if I did,

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Speaker 4: Well, we we appreciate that authenticity and we are so

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Speaker 4: excited for this conversation. So we are going to get

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Speaker 4: started with our quote of the day. Now, quotil this.

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Speaker 4: This quote will sound really familiar to you because we've

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Speaker 4: been in your Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Now this.

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Speaker 4: Quote is one that you have in your home that

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Speaker 9: About, but do it in a way that will lead

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Speaker 9: others to join you. And that that quote is from

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Speaker 9: the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Supreme Court Justice. Let me

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Speaker 9: let me put some respects on her name, Supreme Court

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Speaker 9: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And for the folks in the back,

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna say it one more time. Fight for the

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Speaker 9: things that you care about but do it in a

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Speaker 9: way that will lead others to join you. So quote tailed,

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Speaker 9: why is this particular quote so important for you?

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Speaker 2: M Well, so I will say I introduced my kids

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Speaker 2: to Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I wish I could say I

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Speaker 2: I like that quote a lot because there are all

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Speaker 5: So powerful, right, It's so powerful because you really can't

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Speaker 5: do the work by yourself.

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Speaker 7: We need the community.

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Speaker 5: We need to galvanize folks that have the same belief

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Speaker 5: So thank you for sharing your perspective on it.

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Speaker 8: You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome, And you know, as you had mentioned, I've

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Speaker 2: So and I try and put little sprinklings of sayings

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Speaker 5: Yes, and it'll be so amazing to see how those

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Speaker 5: that's a powerful lesson to learn at such a young age.

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Speaker 7: So kudos to you, mama for doing that.

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Speaker 2: We will we will see, because I can say right

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Speaker 2: now they are not always using that force for goods.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's about advocating from our ice cream. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 2: about bedtime. It is not yet, these like social justice issues,

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Speaker 5: Understand because I have to say I'm always advocating for

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Speaker 7: But that's that's a story for another.

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Speaker 5: But one of the things Cloto that we'd love to

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Speaker 5: ask you is can you just talk about your store?

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Speaker 5: You have such an interesting, inspiring and incredible career so far.

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Speaker 5: We know that there's more to come now, but what

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Speaker 5: is your origin story and how did you begin your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was in high school, I thought I

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Speaker 2: Went to Syracuse great School for journalism and really enjoyed.

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Speaker 8: My time there.

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Speaker 2: But once I found out I could work in news

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Speaker 8: So I wrote a letter.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys know anybody who knows Oprah or somebody

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I'm a big advocate of a girls trip

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Speaker 9: To be doing this.

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Speaker 2: It feels extremely personal to me as a mother, as

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Speaker 8: Grew up reading, I feel.

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Speaker 2: That this is this is my mission, this is my mission.

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Speaker 5: Low till we are just getting started, but we want

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Speaker 2: I need wine.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Oh, this would be the perfect time due to

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Speaker 5: Believe that you can still be elegant and dance to

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Speaker 5: like to invite you to the oh you blatchet segment?

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Speaker 5: Do you take on the challenge?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I take it all right?

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Speaker 7: We got we got her?

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Speaker 5: So, now that you've agreed, clotil, we're going to tell

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Speaker 5: this for you. The first question is what's the best

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Speaker 3: Do you?

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Speaker 2: And don't worry about what other people think? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: from my grandmother, do you do you?

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say that my wisdom, she would say that,

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Speaker 7: Okay, ain't that wrong?

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Speaker 7: Y'all hear that. You don't want to see it?

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 11: That I would say or that my husband would say.

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Speaker 8: Now, so there.

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Speaker 7: We're getting we're getting there. A little tank. We love it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for sharing. We love it. We love it.

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Speaker 4: One question or topic I wish people asked me about

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Speaker 2: You have stumped me? You've stumped I guess that question.

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Speaker 2: So I was prepared.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna think. I'm going to think of that. I'm

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Speaker 7: There we go.

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Speaker 5: We can always, we can always come back to it,

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Speaker 4: Time, and I about it from myself.

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Speaker 2: Huh. Okay, I'm gonna just turn it over to you.

445
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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, my Don, this is not going

446
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Speaker 5: to come as a surprise to you. And we do

447
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Speaker 5: not have to dig any deeper. We're going to go

448
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Speaker 5: right into Hotila's next until completion but mine would be

449
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Speaker 5: death in the afterlife.

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Speaker 7: That is a topic that I feel like people.

451
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Speaker 5: Don't talk about a lot, and I'm like, let's talk

452
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Speaker 5: about it. So cool, say that for another episode, lady.

453
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Speaker 7: But oh go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, but I thought you said, what's a question

455
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Speaker 2: that somebody doesn't ask me? Versus a topic?

456
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Speaker 7: Is topic?

457
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Speaker 2: Question?

458
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Speaker 6: Topic?

459
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Speaker 7: Do you have a topic?

460
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Speaker 2: Okay, see I still don't have an answer.

461
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Speaker 7: It's all good. We'll come we'll come back to it.

462
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 7: That's all good.

463
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 5: That's fun though, even if you want to like email us.

464
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Speaker 5: It was like, hey, I thought of something, if.

465
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Speaker 2: I will, Okay, you guys can add that in later.

466
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Speaker 5: This last one's going to be pretty fun. So this

467
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Speaker 5: one is what I love most about myself.

468
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Speaker 2: Is my hair. And I would say that was a

469
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Speaker 2: bit of a not necessarily a long journey, but a

470
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Speaker 2: bit of a journey. And I was so, so so happy.

471
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Speaker 2: This reminded me of this. I was talking to my

472
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Speaker 2: daughter recently read this book Dear Girl, and a bunch

473
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Speaker 2: of affirmations and things like, dear girl, it's okay to

474
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Speaker 2: draw outside the line sometimes listen to your brave side.

475
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Speaker 2: There's this one page that says, look in the mirror

476
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Speaker 2: an one thing just about you that you love or

477
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Speaker 2: that you're proud of. I'm not saying the words exactly right,

478
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Speaker 2: but something like that. And she said her hair. And

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Speaker 2: I just because she goes to a school where she

480
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Speaker 2: is not in the majority, and I remember her first day,

481
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Speaker 2: her first picture day. Actually, she came home she said

482
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Speaker 2: she didn't look that cute, and that's not language that

483
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Speaker 2: she ever used, and it broke my heart. And she talked.

484
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Speaker 8: About later how the one other black girl in.

485
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Speaker 2: Her class had her hair looked different that day because

486
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Speaker 2: she had strained her hair that day, and so whereas

487
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Speaker 2: her mirror looked different that day, she equated that with huge.

488
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Speaker 2: And so I talked to my hair dresser. I was like,

489
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Speaker 2: we got to do something I'm not I could braid

490
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Speaker 2: kind of, but I'm not that good. So she started

491
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Speaker 2: braiding her hair. She found the puff that she likes,

492
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Speaker 2: and that was probably four or five years ago, and

493
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Speaker 2: now she rocks her puff. She loves it. And so

494
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Speaker 2: the fact that she said her hair, I'm going to

495
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Speaker 2: bus one on that my hair. That's a long answer,

496
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: but my hair, we love that though, that is.

497
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Speaker 7: A perfect answer.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so close to we had three photos pulled up

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Speaker 5: of you on the break on the big screen that

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Speaker 5: we're going to share. This is the part that gives

501
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Speaker 5: people the most nervous, are like, what did they find?

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Speaker 7: Right? Right?

503
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Speaker 5: So what we want you to do is choose a

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Speaker 5: number out of one and three and then we'll reveal

505
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Speaker 5: reveal the photo, and then we'd love for you to

506
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Speaker 5: provide more context.

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Speaker 7: So what number do you choose?

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Speaker 2: Three?

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Speaker 7: All right? I always hoping you choose this one. This

510
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Speaker 7: is lovely, lovely photo.

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Speaker 5: So what we want to do clotailed is we have

512
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Speaker 5: some folks that will only be tuning into the audio

513
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Speaker 5: so you can describe the photo and then give more context.

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Speaker 7: That would be amazing. Are you able to see a photos?

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00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

516
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Speaker 7: Okay?

517
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Speaker 6: Cool?

518
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Speaker 7: Perfect.

519
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Speaker 2: So I've talked a lot about my grandmother in this conversation.

520
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: I should say her name was Quotil or is Quotila Wade,

521
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: and so I was named after her. We were very close.

522
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Speaker 2: She died when she was ninety eight years old, about

523
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: two about three years ago now, and she just had

524
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: such great styles, such great style. She was old school,

525
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: don't leave the house without the rooms, the high heels,

526
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: and dressed dressed all the time, and so when I

527
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: saw this jacket, it just reminded.

528
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Speaker 4: Me of her.

529
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Speaker 2: It reminded me of something that she would wear. She

530
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Speaker 2: had a lot of clothes that she kept over decades,

531
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Speaker 2: things that came back in style that she would wear,

532
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Speaker 2: and this just reminded me of her. I'm not sure

533
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Speaker 2: she would have liked this scales, but I was. I

534
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: was really feeling myself when I bought this and when

535
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Speaker 2: I wore it, and then my my daughter tried to

536
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: bring me down a little bit by telling me I

537
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Speaker 2: look like a dinosaur because it's got these like kind

538
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: of scale like things on the arm. And I told her,

539
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: don't you worry.

540
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 5: I'll save this for you, exactly for you one day.

541
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Speaker 5: Love right, They love to us, they do.

542
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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not falling for your shade. I'm

543
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: not falling, Okay, but yeah, that is that is a

544
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: Tarja special.

545
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 7: Yet we love sweet.

546
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's such a sweet story and context behind that photo.

547
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for playing with us and being

548
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Speaker 5: down to indulge in. Oh you blatchet, you did it.

549
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 7: I did it.

550
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: I was scared, though, I tell you, I'm still going

551
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: to be thinking about that question.

552
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 5: That question go for to shoot us an email. We

553
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 5: are always open for that. Now we'll get into some

554
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 5: of these interview questions that we have for you.

555
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, So our next question is, you know you talk

556
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Speaker 4: about your north star currently being writing children's book, right,

557
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: so how did you get your start? And I mean

558
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Speaker 4: producer on the Oprah Winfrey Show, working for President Obama's

559
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Speaker 4: re election campaign and children's book author? I know you, Yeah,

560
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Speaker 4: explain that connection.

561
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Speaker 2: We know there's a connection. I definitely don't you get

562
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Speaker 2: the line A straight line. Well, I'll tell you I

563
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Speaker 2: believe that. And this goes back to one of your

564
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Speaker 2: earlier questions when you asked about timing and whatnot and

565
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Speaker 2: what I'll say for me. This is back in March

566
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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. For years now, I've gotten the Sunday New

567
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Speaker 2: York Times. I like the hard copy. I like whipping

568
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Speaker 2: through the hard copy. But I have a nearly seven

569
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Speaker 2: and eight year old. So there were many weeks where

570
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Speaker 2: it would stay in the blue wrapper, and if we

571
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Speaker 2: got to and I didn't open it, sadly, the whole

572
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: thing would go because I'd only give it a week.

573
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Speaker 8: The whole thing would then.

574
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Speaker 2: Go and recycling. Sometimes I would get through one section

575
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Speaker 2: Sometimes that was a style section, sometimes that was the

576
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Speaker 2: front page. You never know what it was going to be,

577
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: but I still wanted to get it. This one particular Sunday, though,

578
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: I happened to have enough time to get through the

579
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Speaker 2: whole paper, including the opinion section, and I came across

580
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Speaker 2: this piece written by Denene Milner that in the print

581
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Speaker 2: copy was called she Wants More than MLK. At bedtime,

582
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Speaker 2: I talked about my vision board. I read the whole

583
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Speaker 2: article and it just spoke to me. It gave word to.

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Speaker 8: A lot of what I thought.

585
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: And experienced when I had my kids and was looking

586
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Speaker 2: for books for them. So I cut it out. I

587
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: wasn't quite sure why.

588
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Speaker 8: I cut it out at the time, but I cut it.

589
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Speaker 2: Out, put it on my vision board. Vision board I

590
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Speaker 2: talked about and I walked past it for a couple

591
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Speaker 2: of weeks, and then things said to me, I was

592
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: meant to try and do.

593
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Speaker 8: Something about this. Now I had the time.

594
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Speaker 2: And to read the paper in its entirety that day,

595
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: I had the space to receive it, and I had

596
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Speaker 2: the mental space and time to try and think about

597
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: what I could do and what I could write, and

598
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: so I started. I sent an email out to friends

599
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Speaker 2: and family and included the link to the article, and

600
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Speaker 2: I said, this is what I'm going to try and do.

601
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Speaker 2: This is why I'm going to try and do it.

602
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: And I did that because I wanted people to both

603
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Speaker 2: hold me accountable and also support me along the way.

604
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: And then got started on writing and in a very

605
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: full circle the universe way, the stories, my stories, the

606
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: Stella stories made it to Deneen and she's my publisher.

607
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: How about it? Who set me on this journey that

608
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: I did not envision going on even six years ago

609
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Speaker 2: is now the woman who helped to bring Stella into

610
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Speaker 2: the world, which is really exciting.

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Speaker 5: That is amazing, so amazing. And you are bold and

612
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 5: courageous for emailing people. You had that idea because you

613
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 5: know people will touch base, like, Hey, where's that book?

614
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Speaker 5: Did you write that book? Are you at with the book?

615
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: Right? Right?

616
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Speaker 8: Here?

617
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Speaker 2: She goes again, Here she goes again, she goes again.

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Speaker 7: Seeing now.

619
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Speaker 5: One of the things I wanted to ask you about

620
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Speaker 5: is can you talk briefly about, like what your theory

621
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Speaker 5: is on why a lot of these books are centered

622
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Speaker 5: around specifically race or struggle or like something that's just

623
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Speaker 5: kind of gloomy when it's like there's more to us

624
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Speaker 5: than just that, right, Like, we know you're coming into

625
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 5: solving that, but why do you think that's the case now?

626
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Speaker 2: Well, so let me say a couple of things. Number One,

627
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Speaker 2: I feel it's really important for me to say.

628
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Speaker 8: And put out there.

629
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Speaker 2: A thousand times. I believe that there is a space

630
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Speaker 2: and a need for those books. I have a lot

631
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Speaker 2: of them in my home.

632
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Speaker 8: I want my.

633
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: Children to know our history. I want them to know

634
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: and celebrate black excellence. Yes, yes, and yes. I also

635
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: think that it's important for them to see themselves in

636
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 2: books that are not primarily about struggle or about race

637
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: or about difference, but about being a kid, about just

638
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 2: being a kid, and just.

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Speaker 8: Purely about joy. I think that we have room to grow.

640
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Speaker 2: In terms of the publishing industry recognizing that as well.

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Speaker 8: I think that.

642
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: Oftentimes the books that are about struggle or.

643
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 8: About overcoming or are about.

644
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: Our history, they do better. They do their green lit

645
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: they do better. I shouldn't say they do better in

646
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Speaker 2: terms of they always sell better.

647
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Speaker 8: But I think I think that that is.

648
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: A box that they are more used to checking.

649
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 8: But we need more.

650
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 2: We need more for my kids and we need more

651
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: for kids that don't look like mine to see a

652
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: fellow adventurer that may not look like them, but it

653
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: is just like them, you know. I was really interested

654
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Speaker 2: with the second book. I'm not sure if you've seen

655
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Speaker 2: the cover Still in the Missing Still in the Mystery

656
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: of the Missing Tooth, I should get it off my shelf.

657
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: But I was really interested to see the reaction from kids.

658
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Speaker 2: So I was in Atlanta doing the launch event, and

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Speaker 2: I went to three schools. The first two schools the

660
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Speaker 2: student body was diverse but primarily white or the first

661
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Speaker 2: and third school, the second school primarily black audience. And

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Speaker 2: I was interested to see the different reactions. Because the

663
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Speaker 2: Tooth Fairy is a black tooth fairy. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: see if anybody said anything. Guess fun, they didn't. All

665
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Speaker 2: they said was there's the two Fairy, there's the Tooth Fairy,

666
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: and that that is something. That is something. I got

667
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: a note from a mom who said, oh my gosh,

668
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: these my kids loved this book and they got to

669
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: see a black tooth fairy. I mean, Lynn Gains what

670
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 2: she did with that image. It seems like a small thing,

671
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: but it's not. It's not It's important for our kids,

672
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: and it's important for others too, So.

673
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Speaker 5: You hit the nail on the head. What you really

674
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 5: talked about was just the balance of both, like it

675
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 5: is important to have those and we do have an

676
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: abundance of the struggle, and you know stories about race,

677
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 5: but you wanted to present something different about belonging and

678
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 5: joy and that's that's beautiful. And I did pull up

679
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Speaker 5: the image of Stella in the Mistery of the Missing Tooth,

680
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 5: and there we have our black Tooth fairy. When have

681
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Speaker 5: we ever seen that? That's amazing.

682
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Speaker 2: She did a great job. She did a great, great job.

683
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Speaker 7: So amazing.

684
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And so speaking of Sella and the History

685
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Speaker 4: of the Missing Tooth, tell us more about this book,

686
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Speaker 4: and tell us about your typical writing process, like are

687
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Speaker 4: there any special routines or rituals that kind of help

688
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 4: you get your creative juices flowing?

689
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Speaker 2: Juices flowing? Yes? Okay, Well, so I'll tell you about

690
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: stelling the Mystery of the Missing Tooth and still it

691
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: keeps the sun up. So Stelling the Mystery of the

692
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: Missing Tooth, that is about Stella and her best best

693
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: friend Roger, who is this like hippopotamus, who is very

694
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: real to her, but not necessarily to other people. And

695
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: in this book, they are on a questifying their other

696
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 2: friend Owen's tooth. He lost this tooth and they're like, what,

697
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: how do you lose a tooth? And so they go

698
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: on this adventure to try and find the tooth, only

699
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 2: to kind of get the lesson of how it all

700
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Speaker 2: works in terms of once your tooth falls out, it

701
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 2: means you're ready for this transition to get your your

702
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Speaker 2: next tooth. And then the spirit of kid logic, which

703
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: we try to do with the Spella stories, She's like, Okay,

704
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: then that means that I'm an adult adult tooth adult. Okay,

705
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: I get to make the rules.

706
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Speaker 8: There we go.

707
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Speaker 2: And so it's a lot. It's been a lot of

708
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Speaker 2: fun talking to two kids and reading the story. I

709
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: have realized I need to learn even more fun facts

710
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: about teeth. They get a lot of questions about teeth,

711
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: adult teeth.

712
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 8: Animal teeth. I mean, I've learned a.

713
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: Lot of facts. I can tell you giraffes they don't

714
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 2: have teeth on the top. I can tell you rabbits

715
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: their teeth never stop growing. You can tell a dolphin's

716
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: age by their teeth. Yeah, I've learned a lot about teeth,

717
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: a lot about teeth, so that's been a lot of fun.

718
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Speaker 2: And then the first book Stella Stella Keeps the Sun

719
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Speaker 2: Up is about Stella and her friend Roger, who think

720
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Speaker 2: that they're six years old now and so naturally they

721
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Speaker 2: don't need to sleep anymore. As you saw yourself, the

722
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: sleep struggle is real in my house. And so they decide,

723
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Speaker 2: all right, well, if we have to go to bed

724
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: when it gets dark, then all going to to do

725
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: is keep the sun up. Then we won't ever have

726
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 2: to go to sleep. Spoiler alert, They realized that actually

727
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: sleep is a good thing for no other reason. There

728
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Speaker 2: are kids on the other side of the world who

729
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: are waiting to start their day. So try to get

730
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Speaker 2: a bit of a lesson in there. But nothing too obvious,

731
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Speaker 2: I know for my own house. My son is super

732
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Speaker 2: skeptical of the lesson books, like he is known to say,

733
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Speaker 2: is this one of those lesson books? So if they're

734
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: too obvious, he nope, done, don't want anymore. So I

735
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: got to sneak it in and be be sneaky with it.

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Speaker 5: Ooh, and he's almost seven and he's already like, well,

737
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Speaker 5: go ahead.

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Speaker 2: He came out skeptical. My husband and I joke around

739
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: that both of our kids came into the world in

740
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Speaker 2: a way that is consistent with their personalities. My daughter

741
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: shot out screaming, my son.

742
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Speaker 8: Is like, ooh, I don't know, he was.

743
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Speaker 2: Late, just like sure about that, and he has been

744
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Speaker 2: like that since the day he arrived.

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Speaker 5: That is hilarious. Now we have to know what does

746
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Speaker 5: Stella think about this book series, because she is really

747
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Speaker 5: I mean her name is. I don't know if you

748
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Speaker 5: use the image to the.

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Speaker 2: Image, well, I mean she she would love that question

750
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Speaker 2: because this is what I say. The stories they are

751
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Speaker 2: inspired by both of my children. They are inspired by both.

752
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: But she will be quick to say, but it's my

753
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: name is my name. And so one of the questions

754
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: that I get a lot, including by Jackson, is when

755
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: will the Jackson books be ready? So I need to

756
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Speaker 2: get on that real fast, real fast. As far as

757
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: my process, I try and write at night, once the

758
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: kids go down, I try and get the computer out.

759
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Speaker 2: And I also keep with me in my different bags

760
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Speaker 2: like small little notebooks. So if ideas come to me,

761
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Speaker 2: I write him down. Because I'm forty four right now,

762
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Speaker 2: soon to be forty five. I cannot count on remembering

763
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Speaker 2: what that idea was, so got to write it down

764
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Speaker 2: so I don't forget.

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Speaker 7: We totally understand.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and so we're going to come and you know,

768
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Speaker 6: we're gonna advocate for Jackson. So we want we want

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Speaker 6: to know not only are there plans to have books

770
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Speaker 6: that feature Jackson, and then what is the future for

771
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 6: the Cell series.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so let me let me say it here. I

773
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: said it to Jackson. I will do everything I can't.

774
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: In fact, I should put on my vision board just Jackson.

775
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: I should just put Jackson on my board. So I

776
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: will do that.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

778
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: I will do that. He will appreciate it, he will.

779
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: He will send you a picture. So I will do

780
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: that for sure. For the Stella series, we'll have at

781
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: least two more books. So they have committed to at

782
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: least four books in the series. So that's really exciting.

783
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: So we'll have at least four and I believe that

784
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: this is the beginning. I believe that there is really

785
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: opportunity for animation. I believe that there's opportunity for product.

786
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 2: And this is again that example of like just putting

787
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: it out there. Just put it out there, because why not.

788
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: I believe it, So I'm going to put it out

789
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 2: there and I'm going to say it and we'll see.

790
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: There are no official plans. I just believe that that

791
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: can happen. And then the Jackson series as well, so

792
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see.

793
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 5: Well, we are visionaries over here, so we are seeing

794
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 5: the animated series, the coloring book. Okay, the animated games

795
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: for kids coming out that add all that goods. So

796
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 5: we are here for we're supporting you and fotill what

797
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 5: would you want to tell parents? Because we have so

798
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: many black women and men and people from all across

799
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 5: the globe that are tuning into the podcast, what would

800
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 5: you want to share with them about the book series

801
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 5: and really why they should support, Like what's the importance

802
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 5: of supporting and also how they can support you and

803
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 5: go out and get this Stella series.

804
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I really appreciate that question. You know,

805
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: as odd as this may sound, this isn't about me,

806
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: This isn't about me. I hope that people will consider

807
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: supporting this series because as much as I wanted my

808
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: kids to be able to see themselves and books, I

809
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: also really want to show that there's a market for

810
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: these kinds of books because when we do that, then

811
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: that means there will be more not necessarily by me,

812
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: but by the next author who will have an easier

813
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: time having that project greenlit because they will see that

814
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: there are sales. They will see that there's a market

815
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: for this. And so that is a reason in support

816
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: books like Stella as well as the wonderful books that

817
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: are out there talking about our history. We need to

818
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: as much as we can lean into our joy because

819
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: this world, if we let it, it is dark. There

820
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: are a lot of lessons that we can learn about

821
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 2: leaning into our imagination, leaning into our joy, and celebrating

822
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: our kids.

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Speaker 4: We love that. Yes, yes, a big advocate of yes,

824
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: finding your joy and so well. So where can both

825
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 4: find the Stella series? And if our listener to our

826
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 4: listeners like to show up and support, So, where can

827
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Speaker 4: they find the Sella series and where can they find you?

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Speaker 8: Ah?

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Speaker 2: Great? Okay, So they can find the Stellar series where

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00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: books are sold. So it's available at a lot of

831
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: independent bookstore. So if you have an independent bookstore in

832
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 2: your community, go there. Please support our booksellers. Hopefully your

833
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: city has a black owned bookshop, Please support support support.

834
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: The book is also being sold at Barnes and Noble.

835
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: It's available at select Target stores, select Cold stores, Amazon,

836
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: so it is out there, it is available, it's available

837
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: to buy. And then because of the book, I did

838
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 2: also get on social media, so I got an Instagram

839
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: page where you got that photo, and I tried to

840
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: update things there and do school readings and things like that.

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Speaker 2: So follow me, join me on this journey. Let's do it.

842
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: Let's do it all right, y'all. The book is out

843
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 5: you everywhere you can get your books, so go support,

844
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 5: get the books, file the klo tilled anything else that

845
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 5: you want to share. Before we wrap up.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you for all you

847
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: do to celebrate our joy. And like you said, we

848
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: don't just check one box. We can check ten boxes

849
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Speaker 2: at one time. So thanks for celebrating all of us

850
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: and all that we are. And look out for an

851
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: email for me answering that one question that I'm still

852
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: thinking about.

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Speaker 7: We will be waiting.

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Speaker 5: We cannot wait to see the answer. Thank you so much, Clotil.

855
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Speaker 5: This was amazing.

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00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, and have a wonderful night you too,

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00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: lady too.

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