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Speaker 2: through every single Western Conference team and share our biggest
Speaker 2: surprise at the quarter mark of the NBA season. But
Speaker 2: before we get to that, had three games on last night.
Speaker 2: I want to chuck all the match you and you
Speaker 2: guys can talk about any of the ones you want
Speaker 2: to pretty entertaining games. Really, we had Luca and the
Speaker 2: MAVs edging Curry and the Warriors in a West Finals replay.
Speaker 2: Do you like travels because this one had a whole
Speaker 2: lot of traveling violations. We had Norman Powell scoring thirty
Speaker 2: two off the bench as the Clippers rallied past the
Speaker 2: Blazers one eighteen, one to twelve, and then birthday boy
Speaker 2: Julius Randall scored thirty six as the Knicks took care
Speaker 2: of the Pistons one forty to one ten. But I
Speaker 2: assume you want to talk a little bit about entertaining.
Speaker 2: Sort of weird game between the Ecks and Warriors there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, MAVs got a little revenge for the Western Conference
Speaker 3: Finals loss. Before we get to the travels that everybody
Speaker 3: wants to talk about, it's Luca magic. Obviously, he was
Speaker 3: a magician out there. It was cool seeing him against
Speaker 3: different defenders like the Warriors throwing Jonathan kuming Adam, who
Speaker 3: was the best type of guy I think you put
Speaker 3: on him. Luca calls lou Dort one of the best
Speaker 3: few defenders in the league because he just want a
Speaker 3: huge body to try and match the size and strength
Speaker 3: of Luka Dancic and Kuminga Kainda does that. It's just
Speaker 3: hard to find those dudes. So him, Luca being able
Speaker 3: to just dissect, diagnose, do whatever he wants against double team,
Speaker 3: split them, dance and the beautiful scoopedy loop pass to
Speaker 3: the corner on for that went right by Klay Thompson.
Speaker 3: That was amazing. He was just phenomenal out there. So
Speaker 3: he dropped another forty spot, another forty point triple double.
Speaker 3: You know, these numbers, these stats come flying at us.
Speaker 3: But when I saw that, it took him two hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty three games to get to his twentieth forty
Speaker 3: point game of his career, and it took Dirk fifteen
Speaker 3: and twenty two games to get there. I thought that
Speaker 3: was pretty significant perspective. Yeah, yeah, I know there's point
Speaker 3: inflation out there, but still, this is Dirk we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Dirk took him eighteen seasons to get there. Luca, he's
Speaker 3: in season number five, so it was it was just
Speaker 3: magical out there and he did it. You know, the
Speaker 3: Warriors got contributions from the bench, which was weird the
Speaker 3: way it balanced out, but Luca was the story last night.
Speaker 2: What did you think of that game, that first one
Speaker 2: on TNT.
Speaker 4: I saw today that Jared Weis at The Daily Dean
Speaker 4: called it the game of the season so far. The
Speaker 4: last two minutes. I think you at least got got
Speaker 4: a case to be made there because the shot making
Speaker 4: was awesome. Seeing two of the top five MVP candidates
Speaker 4: going ahead to head kind of trading shots pretty cool.
Speaker 4: A lot of weird stuff happened in this game, all
Speaker 4: the travels, I mean, the Warriors got looks for Steph
Speaker 4: and Clay down three a travel and a miss on
Speaker 4: those ones. But I was really impressed with the role
Speaker 4: players coming through in the clutch for the Mavericks. Tim
Speaker 4: Hardaway Junior finally had a good game, had a massive
Speaker 4: three late in the fourth quarter of this one, and
Speaker 4: Josh Green had a wild take to the hoop where
Speaker 4: he scored a layup, and that really kind of helped
Speaker 4: ice things for the MAVs. We've talked a lot about
Speaker 4: how great Dancic has been throughout this season. Three forty
Speaker 4: point triple doubles already. I do think he will bypass
Speaker 4: Dirk eventually for career forty point games, probably by the
Speaker 4: next game. But they've gotten good performances from wood throughout
Speaker 4: the season. Spencer Dinwoody has been up and down a
Speaker 4: little bit, but has had a solid season as well.
Speaker 4: The role guys, the actual role players on the MAVs
Speaker 4: have not been very good so far this season. They
Speaker 4: showed up last night. So the MAVs got an incredible win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tim Hardaway Junior hitting five threes, some timely buckets too,
Speaker 2: and Josh Green playing really well in his twenty five
Speaker 2: to twenty six minutes.
Speaker 3: He was scared. He was scared when Spencer didn't win.
Speaker 3: He went out, he said, oh, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 3: play point guard now. I've never haven't done that in
Speaker 3: a long time. But yeah, yeah, they need It's sometimes
Speaker 3: good for a team to get a young guy sort
Speaker 3: of thrust into a bigger role. So, as Trey said,
Speaker 3: they just need those guys to play. Really, they have
Speaker 3: to play average basketball and they can win because they've
Speaker 3: been losing these really close games. So they're back to
Speaker 3: five hundred. Hey, they could literally be number one in
Speaker 3: the West if they want some of those close games,
Speaker 3: if they got some of these performances from some of
Speaker 3: these role players.
Speaker 2: How insane was the Dinwitty ejection? There a flagrant two
Speaker 2: foul call on driving to the net. I mean, the
Speaker 2: elbow comes up, it hits pool. They go and look
Speaker 2: at it. I'm thinking I think most people are like, okay,
Speaker 2: they might get they're gonna give him a flagrant one.
Speaker 2: You know, it was the chicken winged up there. It
Speaker 2: caught them. He went down. Well, we'll just continue to play.
Speaker 2: But tossed for that a flagrant two. And then in
Speaker 2: addition to all the maybe correct travel calls, it was
Speaker 2: just a I just tweeted last night. It was a
Speaker 2: fun game, but it was just a weird game with
Speaker 2: everything going on.
Speaker 3: What do you think Dinwitty call? Wrong travel calls? We
Speaker 3: got to understand what a travel a call is. They're right,
Speaker 3: we have to figure out what travel calls are, what
Speaker 3: pivot feet. The pivot foot is part.
Speaker 2: It's that switch into that pivot foot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I start to think back to do you
Speaker 3: remember when Kevin Garnett, Candace Parker, and Gary Payton jumped
Speaker 3: in They had an argument about what the hell is
Speaker 3: a pivot foot? Because it's changed. It has changed. The
Speaker 3: pivot foot supposed to be the last thing that leaves
Speaker 3: the ground, but now it just dances and then you
Speaker 3: can move to your other foot and let that one hang.
Speaker 3: So it is weird that it's happening now in November
Speaker 3: because it wasn't a mandate in October. Tom Havistrow has
Speaker 3: broke down the numbers or buddy that they were. You know,
Speaker 3: they were just pretty regular in the month of October.
Speaker 3: But now they're like four per game, which is like
Speaker 3: almost triple what it was in October. So it's weird
Speaker 3: that it wasn't at the beginning of the season because
Speaker 3: that's when the mandates come. But I think it does.
Speaker 3: It's good for the game eventually, like it. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: the dancing at the three point line with the you know,
Speaker 3: the hard and shuffle whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 3: it's become a little nuts. But anyway, traveling talk is
Speaker 3: boring and it's unfortunate, but I think it has to
Speaker 3: be done. It's just weird when it's coming out because they.
Speaker 2: At least they were consistent about it last night.
Speaker 3: Just call it, yeah, learn, the players will learn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have any thoughts in addition to the test,
Speaker 2: they're on the traveling or the Dinwitty flagrant.
Speaker 4: Too, I feel Yeah, terrible call on Dinwitty. I thought
Speaker 4: I thought that was a kind of a textbook flagrant. One.
Speaker 4: Contact to the face seemed incidental to me because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's trying to get him off him, but like he's
Speaker 4: not aiming for his face. Just very weird hit the
Speaker 4: way his arm kind of traveled up. I guess it
Speaker 4: was pool right, traveled up his chest into his face.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's just got him.
Speaker 3: He's got a magnet and he's got good reactions too.
Speaker 4: So he sell it and he's got he's got good
Speaker 4: facial reactions in general. The Curry travel, that's not a travel,
Speaker 4: I don't think so you're talking about yeah, the only
Speaker 4: one that really matters, But uh, they called it a
Speaker 4: travel because they missed one for Tyler hero, So it's
Speaker 4: it's in the minds of the official. I wouldn't be
Speaker 4: surprised if it's rescinded. I thought that was a big
Speaker 4: gather step he did. We've seen that so many times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's fair. I mean that is you've seen
Speaker 2: that from Curry or one hundred other players a million times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: over the last couple the last ten season. So yeah,
Speaker 2: if they suddenly changed the ruling on that, we're going
Speaker 2: to see a hell of a lot of travel calls.
Speaker 4: Well, he got called for one earlier very similar play,
Speaker 4: and then post game he's like, they thought I did
Speaker 4: the same thing, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I trust him. As for the other games. Just
Speaker 2: some love to Norman Powell for twenty two points in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. I mean shot seven to nine, hit
Speaker 2: both of his threes, got to the line six of eight. There.
Speaker 2: I read that no Clipper in the last twenty five
Speaker 2: seasons has scored more points in a fourth quarter. Norman
Speaker 2: Powell has that. Now, incredible stuff from him as they
Speaker 2: came back to sort of shock Portland there who looked
Speaker 2: like they had a comfortable lead. And then the birthday. Boy,
Speaker 2: I love a guy scoring on his birthday. Randall fourteen
Speaker 2: to twenty four from the field, seven boards, five assists,
Speaker 2: put Beef stew on a poster. He was not happy
Speaker 2: about it. I'll shove after. But I think for the Knicks,
Speaker 2: I mean it was against the Pistons with no kid
Speaker 2: and no IV I get that. But they did have Randall, RJ. Barrett,
Speaker 2: and Jalen Brunson all playing well, sort of on the
Speaker 2: same night. Because they've struggled with that. It's either one
Speaker 2: guy's having a big performance, the other two a stinging up,
Speaker 2: maybe two guys the third guys nowhere to be seen,
Speaker 2: but all three were decent and Mitchell Robinson stayed out
Speaker 2: of foul trouble, stayed on the floor. He's very vital
Speaker 2: to them, and he grabbed thirteen rebounds. So they're happy
Speaker 2: with those guys contributing. Grime's playing well quickly off the
Speaker 2: bench with fifteen. Everybody played all right there celebrating Julius
Speaker 2: Randall's birthday. Wouldn't you love to have a big performance
Speaker 2: on your birthday?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you think about that with the podcast? I guess
Speaker 2: we're August birthdays, so yeah, you know we're not doing
Speaker 2: a live podcast generally in the off season.
Speaker 3: I blasted a home run on a baseball podcast on
Speaker 3: my birthday this summer.
Speaker 2: Oh, there you go.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what it was, but it was no doubt. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it was a solo pod forcing JD to
Speaker 3: talk about baseball. But just like normal going solo in
Speaker 3: the fourth court. It's a good win for the Clippers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we'll talk about the Clippers as the surprise that
Speaker 3: they are. Yeah, considering all the injuries that they had
Speaker 3: going into last night.
Speaker 2: Before we get to that, had an update with Karl
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns. He's expected to miss several weeks, likely four
Speaker 2: to six weeks with that right calf strain he suffered
Speaker 2: on Monday night. But the good news Tray is that
Speaker 2: he avoided a more serious injury like a ruptured achilles.
Speaker 2: But four to six.
Speaker 4: Weeks here, I mean, that's a chunk of time figure
Speaker 4: it out. Yeah, a month and a half if he misses.
Speaker 4: Of trying to actually figure out how you're going to
Speaker 4: play together. We've seen a lot of clips going around
Speaker 4: of go beart in Towns, just like in the lane,
Speaker 4: kind of shoveling the ball back and forth to each other.
Speaker 4: A lot of congestion there so my guess is that
Speaker 4: the Timberwolves offense is going to instantly improve just because
Speaker 4: there's one less big guy out there. Anthony Edwards is
Speaker 4: gonna go crazy. He's been looking forward to playing with
Speaker 4: only one big guy out there. Unfortunately for Rudy Gobert
Speaker 4: means he probably won't touch the ball for the next
Speaker 4: month and a half. But I mean think the good
Speaker 4: thing is that Towns isn't, you know, seriously hurt where
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to recover from an achilles injury. But
Speaker 4: this is bad for the Timberwolves still, even if it's
Speaker 4: only a month and a half, they need every single
Speaker 4: game they can play together to figure out how they
Speaker 4: fit together.
Speaker 3: Yes, because it's such an odd combination of biggs, for sure,
Speaker 3: I think it's slow mo time, though Kyle Anderson's gonna
Speaker 3: play a lot at the four to stretch it out.
Speaker 3: Nas Reed has been so good. I think Chris Finch
Speaker 3: probably be tempted to play nas Reed and Rudy Gobert together,
Speaker 3: but that would continue to clog things up. So I
Speaker 3: think Kyle Anderson, who was a smart signing for them,
Speaker 3: I think he's come along slowly. He was injured to
Speaker 3: start the season. It's gonna be key here, but it
Speaker 3: does suck for them just in general not playing together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that hurts. I think Torrian Prince is out right
Speaker 2: now for a couple of weeks. I think he has
Speaker 2: a shoulder injury. Maybe when he comes back and it's healthy,
Speaker 2: they could put him into the starting lineup as well,
Speaker 2: just to add some shooting, because Kyle Anderson doesn't give
Speaker 2: you that, like he's actually not gonna try three point
Speaker 2: percentage wise, but he doesn't take a lot of them,
Speaker 2: so you know, you got him and a Rudy there.
Speaker 2: Could that could be an issue, but I think you're right.
Speaker 2: They'll probably go with him Nasriy continuing to come off
Speaker 2: the bench, but maybe Prince comes back and he's slotted
Speaker 2: in there just to give them a threat of a
Speaker 2: three point shooter. All right, let's get into it here.
Speaker 2: The main bulk of this podcast is biggest surprise for
Speaker 2: each Western Conference team. On tomorrow show, we'll do the
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference teams. But we are a quarter or so
Speaker 2: into the NBA season, so surprise could be good, it
Speaker 2: could be bad, It could be ugly, and it could
Speaker 2: be about a player, it could be about a coach,
Speaker 2: could be a trend that you've noticed with this team.
Speaker 2: Go wherever you want with your biggest surprise, We'll start
Speaker 2: in the Pacific Division. Yeah, I love divisions, you know it?
Speaker 2: Great way to break it up. Five here, five here,
Speaker 2: five here. Well, I love that Phoenix Suns tasks in
Speaker 2: the Pacific Division. What's the biggest surprise to you at
Speaker 2: the Quarner Market the NBA season.
Speaker 3: At the Suns in the old Pacific Division. I guess
Speaker 3: it shouldn't be surprising that the Suns are the same
Speaker 3: old Suns. I just thought something was fishy after the
Speaker 3: way they went out, the way they got destroyed by Dallas,
Speaker 3: the DeAndre eight and signing a contract with the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 3: But nope, same old Devin Booker are going to be
Speaker 3: all NBA. DeAndre Ayton signed that offer sheet with the Pacers.
Speaker 3: It's come back basically the same guy with the Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 3: Chris Paul missing games, Ali, that's the same old Just kidding,
Speaker 3: I'm an a hole, but I guess I guess that
Speaker 3: is one interesting thing with the Phoenix Suns because they
Speaker 3: are the number one seed in the Western Conference. Chris
Speaker 3: Paul when he has been playing he's played half the games.
Speaker 3: Doesn't look like the old Chris Paul is age finally
Speaker 3: catching up to thirty seven year old Chris Paul because
Speaker 3: he's at nine and a half points per game thirty
Speaker 3: seven and twenty seven is percentages just seven and a
Speaker 3: half shots per game, which is really weird for Chris Paul.
Speaker 3: So is that an issue when he does come back
Speaker 3: or will he just find his groove again because Campaign
Speaker 3: has been very good replacing him. He has been really solid.
Speaker 3: So the team doesn't look like it has any problems
Speaker 3: like Parpin that they don't get to the free throw
Speaker 3: line enough. They are amongst the bottom teams that doesn't
Speaker 3: get to the line. The Golden State Warriors are the
Speaker 3: absolute worst at that. They have the jump shooters to
Speaker 3: make it happen, dude. The Suns, I tend to think
Speaker 3: they've got to find some extra buckets, but who really
Speaker 3: when it looks when you look at the numbers, they
Speaker 3: are a great offense. And so they haven't missed Jay
Speaker 3: Crowder and they haven't missed Cam Johnson being out, which
Speaker 3: is kind of crazy. They're the number one seed in
Speaker 3: the West because they got villains and Tory Craig Damian Lee,
Speaker 3: Jock Landale plays minutes, but many Williams, I guess is
Speaker 3: the He is the rock that keeps this whole thing
Speaker 3: together as the head coach, keeps things running. And they
Speaker 3: are the same team. So fourteen to six, twenty games
Speaker 3: through the season, that would be all you really ask for.
Speaker 3: They are right on pace to be, you know, another
Speaker 3: fifty five to sixty win team. Yah, amazing.
Speaker 2: I remember you doting them quite a bit in the preseason.
Speaker 2: You thought the hangover of that brutal loss last year
Speaker 2: with the eight and with the Crowder holdout and all
Speaker 2: that could have an effect.
Speaker 3: On them, but who knows. Yeah, it's just it's all vibes,
Speaker 3: and can you really feel the vibes. I just thought
Speaker 3: losing again, that's unprecedented to lose by fifty at home?
Speaker 3: Did DeAndre eton thing where he said, yeah, I'm happy
Speaker 3: to be here. Yeah, I'm happy to be here. So
Speaker 3: that wasn't selling me. But obviously their play is amazing,
Speaker 3: and I thought the Western Conference teams would be better.
Speaker 3: So I thought there was a chance when we made
Speaker 3: our bold predictions that the Sons would drop down the standard. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but they have not been there. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: mediocrity as we get to these teams, and there's a
Speaker 3: chance that a lot of these good teams could pass
Speaker 3: the Suns at some point, because at fourteen six fifty five,
Speaker 3: that's very, very good. But there's a chance for a
Speaker 3: team to grab the West if they want.
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, let's keep it going, Trey, you got
Speaker 2: the Clippers.
Speaker 4: Biggest surprise, biggest surprise for the Clippers to me is
Speaker 4: how little Kawhi Leonard is played. It's honestly shocking. Like
Speaker 4: the guy's coming back from injury. He missed like five
Speaker 4: hundred days, just like Ben Simmons. What a number, five
Speaker 4: hundred days of summer. We knew he was going to
Speaker 4: be in and out of the lineup for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, like Kawhi has been a load managing kind
Speaker 4: of guy since the Zaza injury with the Spurs. Way
Speaker 4: back when he played what sixty five games for the
Speaker 4: Raptors when they won the championship. That seemed about right.
Speaker 4: He's played one hundred and twelve minutes so far. He's
Speaker 4: played in five games so far for the Clippers. You
Speaker 4: would think that after taking a year and a half
Speaker 4: off he would be back more regularly than this. This
Speaker 4: is pretty surprising that he's been in basically as a
Speaker 4: role player, Like I mean, when he's playing, he's hardly
Speaker 4: playing his usual allotment of minutes. It's been weird the
Speaker 4: way they would bring him in halfway through the second quarter.
Speaker 4: It's just been a very strange experience for Kawhi since
Speaker 4: he's been to the Clippers, no doubt about it, but
Speaker 4: this season it is shocking to me that it's less
Speaker 4: of a story that he's playing so rarely like this
Speaker 4: guy hasn't barely been on the court for the Clippers
Speaker 4: since he got there. Understandable last year he was out,
Speaker 4: but you would think having that much time off, he's
Speaker 4: going to be rare and to go, and that has
Speaker 4: not been the case. Clippers have still done a good job.
Speaker 4: They played defense. We saw last night. They can get
Speaker 4: hot and score a whole bunch of baskets. It helps
Speaker 4: ifan Prony Simons is trying to guard you. But the
Speaker 4: Clippers ain't winning a title if Kawhi Leonard is not
Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard, and he has not looked anything like it
Speaker 4: because we haven't seen him play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's already gonna miss the next game. It's
Speaker 3: it's so strange with them, how they say, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: gonna miss the next two games just to manage, and
Speaker 3: it's it's like, how how is he gonna come back?
Speaker 3: Is he ever going to come back? Because you can
Speaker 3: look at him and say, yeah, he's coming along slowly
Speaker 3: in those five of what's gonna be now twenty three
Speaker 3: games that the Clippers play, But you can also look
Speaker 3: at him and say he looks big and kind of
Speaker 3: slow out there at times too.
Speaker 2: Theory he should be out of shape. Yeah he's not playing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's got the touch. Yea, that's obvious.
Speaker 3: He'll always have the touch. But will he be like
Speaker 3: I to carry a team in the playoffs? It's it's
Speaker 3: impossible to know.
Speaker 2: It's a good one. You would have guessed that he
Speaker 2: would have played more at this point a quarter into
Speaker 2: the season, even being Kawai, I think you would have been, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's probably played half the games or something like that,
Speaker 2: Like if.
Speaker 4: You've played ten games, I'd be like, okay, fair enough,
Speaker 4: you're resting every other game. That's kind of to be
Speaker 4: expected to play in a quarter of the games and
Speaker 4: then to play barely any minutes in those games, very
Speaker 4: very strange.
Speaker 3: So he just dictates, I don't feel good because there's
Speaker 3: no injury, right there is not an injury because he's.
Speaker 2: They're saying it's his ankle right right now. I think
Speaker 2: it's tough to keep tracking with him. I'll double check that,
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure that's how they have them listed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: ankle for at least yesterday's game, So that's what's lingering
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, yeah, all right. I guess that's a good
Speaker 3: sign that it's not the surgically repaired ACL. But they're
Speaker 3: thirteen to nine, which is obviously better than you'd think
Speaker 3: they'd be to me, oh my, two games back of
Speaker 3: number one seed in the Western.
Speaker 2: Conference, absolutely, especially with Paul George not playing in every
Speaker 2: single game either. And then you said they're like one
Speaker 2: of the best defenses in the league, Like, kudos to
Speaker 2: ty Lu and the guy's playing out there. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: I would not have had them at thirteen to nine
Speaker 2: if you had told me Kawhi was going to play
Speaker 2: one hundred minutes a quarter of the way through the season.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, I guess continue to slow play it.
Speaker 2: I guess is sort of the counter to this, Like
Speaker 2: it's not like you're, you know, falling behind and you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we're gonna be a playing team. They're
Speaker 2: still picking up wins. Pretty wild.
Speaker 3: You got Hot Normy with Norman Powell playing Hot Ormy.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking of a hot Bobby sandwich. That's
Speaker 3: why I said a hot Army. Well, Thanksgiving just passed.
Speaker 3: Remember the hot Bobby.
Speaker 4: I made my own hot Bobby with leftovers. Snack it up, baby.
Speaker 2: Explain that for someone that doesn't know what a hobby.
Speaker 4: A hot Bobby. It's a Thanksgiving theme sandwich from Capriot's
Speaker 4: and Las Vegas. You got a turkey, you got some stuffing,
Speaker 4: you're throwing some cramp I don't know what, but those
Speaker 4: are the three building blocks. It's a Thanksgiving sandwich, Thanksgiving
Speaker 4: leftover sand.
Speaker 2: I believe Matt Bonner loves a hot Bobby. I think
Speaker 2: he was, Uh didn't he order something similar JD when
Speaker 2: he was on Is This Good? With Mattio?
Speaker 4: It was yeah, called the gobbler.
Speaker 5: Gobbler Yeah, totally yeah, stuffing, he said, there was stuffing,
Speaker 5: turkey and maybe gravy on there, probably cramberry.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and he got it delivered mid Yeah, classic.
Speaker 5: Botter, perfectly on brand. I ordered the sandwich in the
Speaker 5: middle of his show.
Speaker 2: You gotta love it. He's hungry. Oh yeah, six ten huge.
Speaker 5: We did have a whole segments at the Horseshoe Tavern
Speaker 5: with Matt Bonner making a.
Speaker 2: Sandwich right right, right right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Lost on the internet.
Speaker 2: We don't have the we don't have the footage nothing.
Speaker 5: I can't find anything. Somebody's looking for the Christmas Carol,
Speaker 5: the Christmas album we did and it's gone.
Speaker 3: Noxists used to be up on YouTube. I gotta find it.
Speaker 3: Post that.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's keep it going here. We're still
Speaker 2: in the Pacific Division. I got the Sacramento Kinks. Biggest
Speaker 2: surprise about the Sacramento Kings to me is that Monty
Speaker 2: McNair he might get some warranted Executive of the Year votes.
Speaker 2: Look at the moves this guy did. He brought in
Speaker 2: head coach Mike Brown, who's been great. I mean he
Speaker 2: installed a cow bell in the practice gym, and he
Speaker 2: installed a beam on top of the Golden One Center roof. Wait,
Speaker 2: Mike Brown, Mike Brown did that. Yes, I'm convinced he did.
Speaker 4: I got a idea, guysnutes uh, you know McNair.
Speaker 2: They drafted Keegan Murray at the number four pick. Now, look,
Speaker 2: he's been he's been injured, he had ellen this city,
Speaker 2: he's got a back issue, he's been okay, he's been okay,
Speaker 2: he's been sold. But you know, you see the promise
Speaker 2: there at a number four pick. But the big things
Speaker 2: were that McNair did. The two moves were trading justin
Speaker 2: Holiday mo heartless how could you be more heartless? And
Speaker 2: a future draft pick for Kevin Herder, who's been unbelievable
Speaker 2: for the Sacramento king starting for them, And they signed
Speaker 2: Malik Monk to a two year, nineteen million dollar deal.
Speaker 2: That guy doesn't turn twenty five until February. The almost
Speaker 2: blew my mind when I was looking at that. Feels
Speaker 2: like he's been in the lease so much longer. But
Speaker 2: those two guys, Red Velvet and Monk combined are giving
Speaker 2: you thirty points per game, eight assists, five and a
Speaker 2: half rebounds, and five made threes per game because they're
Speaker 2: both lights out shooters, or they let it fly. At
Speaker 2: least Herd are obviously very efficient. From three Monk you
Speaker 2: know less, so but lets it fly. It can get
Speaker 2: hot just credible moves that you know, some of us
Speaker 2: were high on during the offseason, but I think it
Speaker 2: went overlooked for the most part. There were other big
Speaker 2: trades Murray and Gobert and Mitchell and all that. These
Speaker 2: have been really solid additions, adding some shooting to Sabonis
Speaker 2: and Fox as your guys. Now, the defense hasn't coming around.
Speaker 2: It's twenty fifth in the league. Man, you'd love to
Speaker 2: see that just get up to average with this really
Speaker 2: lights out offense. But they've been a surprise team. I
Speaker 2: know they're on a losing streak. They've had a weird year, right,
Speaker 2: They just lost a bunch of games to start, and
Speaker 2: then they sort of flip flopped for a bit. Then
Speaker 2: they had the huge winning streak and now they're on
Speaker 2: a bit of a slide, playing some good teams. But
Speaker 2: nice moves there from Monty McNair, who I still think
Speaker 2: is a quarterback for the Tennessee Titans. Oh, rip steeping.
Speaker 2: That's very sad, but yeah, good stuff there from the Kings.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the signings have worked out really well. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: Herder getting a more prominent role than he had here.
Speaker 3: With Atlanta. You're the starting shooting guard. We're not messing
Speaker 3: with that. You're the starting shooting guard. Has worked out
Speaker 3: ridiculously well. Loved that for Kevin Heurdr and Malik Munk Roland. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think those two are are really really key to
Speaker 3: their success. And it's still success even if they have
Speaker 3: a little losing streak.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely They're six right now in the Western Conference.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The brown the brown be can you Mike Brown That.
Speaker 2: Sounds like something happens after a hot Bobby Sandwich.
Speaker 4: Fire the brownie that didn't go.
Speaker 3: Then that's what happened in the brainstorming session, Mike Browns like,
Speaker 3: we'll call it the brown bean. Make it purple.
Speaker 2: That's a better idea. All right, let's keep it going.
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors, back to Utre. What's the biggest price,
Speaker 2: biggest surprise to me? Zero Andrew Wiggins buzz.
Speaker 3: He's been awesome.
Speaker 2: Awesome. Hasn't been awesome.
Speaker 4: He's been awesome.
Speaker 3: He's been better.
Speaker 4: This is the problem here, This is he's been better
Speaker 4: than last year. Wiggins is probably having it the best
Speaker 4: season of his career at this point. He's having equivalent
Speaker 4: to his best scoring season at least with the Warriors,
Speaker 4: and he shooting forty three percent from three. But here's
Speaker 4: everything you talk about with the Warriors, Steph Curry is
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the league, and then
Speaker 4: their bench not coming through, in their young guys not
Speaker 4: coming through. Maybe a little bit of Draymond Green punching
Speaker 4: people in the face, Klay Thompson struggling, everything else on
Speaker 4: the Warriors as a story. But Wiggins has been playing really,
Speaker 4: really well, he said after the finals last year, He's like,
Speaker 4: I'll never have a season where I averaged four rebounds. Again,
Speaker 4: he's averaging five rebounds a game right now, a career high,
Speaker 4: a career high in steals as well, a career high
Speaker 4: in blocks as well. And like I said, forty three
Speaker 4: percent from three. He's now under fifty percent from the
Speaker 4: field after last night, but still forty nine point seven
Speaker 4: close enough. The guy could be knocking on the door
Speaker 4: of a fifty forty ninety if he could make a
Speaker 4: free throw. He's sixty nine percent, nice, but not at
Speaker 4: the free throw line. So I'm a little surprised. Wiggins,
Speaker 4: you know, started the All Star Game last year a
Speaker 4: bit of a miraculous happening there won a championship, completely
Speaker 4: changed the narrative around him, and now he's out there
Speaker 4: just being a good basketball player. So just letting them be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was fitting that you said Andrew
Speaker 3: Wiggins having a good year. Dead silence, Yeah, because that's
Speaker 3: what's happening. Yeah. Yeah, But you make a good point
Speaker 3: about the All Star appearance. I thought, yeah, just a
Speaker 3: perfect storm last year for him to make it because
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson was out, especially the second Golden State Warrior
Speaker 3: went to Andrew Wiggins. I would love if they were
Speaker 3: up in the standings and people were thinking about giving
Speaker 3: them a second All Star, who would it be? Could
Speaker 3: be Wiggins, probably not Clay. It probably go to Wiggins,
Speaker 3: but it'd probably go to another player in the National
Speaker 3: Basketball Association most likely, and the Western Conference first. But
Speaker 3: he is having a better year.
Speaker 2: He is still wild that they have this brutal road record,
Speaker 2: with another one last night losing in Dallas where they
Speaker 2: won two, two and nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nuts, But there's still a five hundred team. There's a
Speaker 2: bunch of on the road Golden State Warriors defending champs.
Speaker 2: With Curry playing the way he's played all season long,
Speaker 2: that's just weird. But Okay, a little love for Andrew Wiggins.
Speaker 2: Don't think he's gonna be making the All Star team
Speaker 2: this year starting there? No, no, probably not all right,
Speaker 2: tass finish off the Pacific.
Speaker 3: Everybody's favorite team, your Los Angeles Lakers. Well listen, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just I was. I was past tense trying to
Speaker 3: find a way for them to be palatable on television,
Speaker 3: on the screen because they have three odd national TV
Speaker 3: games whatever it is, we're kind of forced to watch
Speaker 3: them in a way, so I wanted them to be
Speaker 3: a little bit better. But they have. I think it's
Speaker 3: I think the ship has sailed. But there are there
Speaker 3: are a lot of surprising things about them. Russell Westbrook
Speaker 3: going to the bench for the first time is now
Speaker 3: fifteen year career and being cool with it. Wow, it
Speaker 3: is surprising. It's it's like we expect him to be
Speaker 3: more ai than mellow in the end, but he's doing it.
Speaker 3: AD knowing the Lakers don't have a center and just
Speaker 3: playing the five the entire season, that's a little surprising.
Speaker 3: Moving there full time, it's a little bit surprising. That's
Speaker 3: what he should be doing. AD being fairly healthy, but
Speaker 3: this team still being five games under five hundred. That's
Speaker 3: also a little surprising to me. I thought, and I
Speaker 3: was wrong, that Ad would carry the team a little
Speaker 3: bit more. That hasn't happened. But there's some non surprising
Speaker 3: things like Lebron missing about a quarter of the games,
Speaker 3: which he's done in three the last four seasons, Patrick
Speaker 3: Beverley being suspended. That's not surprising. But I guess the
Speaker 3: most surprising thing to me is that Rob Polinka has
Speaker 3: not burned the draft picks and try to make a
Speaker 3: trade and try to make a deal. And maybe he's
Speaker 3: being smart because this team is not going anywhere, even
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference where you can jump up the standings.
Speaker 3: I don't see it happening. The schedule is going to
Speaker 3: get really tough in December and the Western Conference. Even
Speaker 3: if you can in a you can sort of squint
Speaker 3: and say, hey, we can do this. Like Anthony Davis
Speaker 3: said a couple of years ago after they lost to
Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns, I was injured and we whatever, Like
Speaker 3: you can, you can make excuses or you can kind
Speaker 3: of reason with yourself. But the quality of the Western
Speaker 3: Conference is too much for the Lakers. There just aren't
Speaker 3: enough bad teams for them to beat. They are two
Speaker 3: and eleven against plus five hundred teams and five and
Speaker 3: one against sub five hundred teams, and there's just too
Speaker 3: many good teams. I think, so they don't have enough.
Speaker 3: They do not have enough. And do you wonder like.
Speaker 2: GML practice though, to not make make a move with
Speaker 2: Lebron at this point of his career and you still
Speaker 2: have Ad, Like you have two of the better players
Speaker 2: in the league, but.
Speaker 3: They're so far back. I just don't know if the
Speaker 3: guys that they're gonna get are gonna help enough. Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe they're a playing team if you go get
Speaker 3: Buddy Healed and Miles Turner or you go get Yacka
Speaker 3: Pertle and Josh Richardson. But they're just not gonna get enough.
Speaker 3: So I think he's being small. We've had a quarter
Speaker 3: of the season here Ad has been extremely healthy, which
Speaker 3: may not happen the rest of the season. Westbrook is
Speaker 3: playing as best as he can. I don't think they
Speaker 3: have enough. Maybe the malpractice is the last few years
Speaker 3: or with the supporting cast after the championship, because it's
Speaker 3: just been eroding since then.
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on LA.
Speaker 4: I think Eroading is exactly the right word. They broke
Speaker 4: up a championship team and that was the exact kind
Speaker 4: of team you needed around Lebron. It was guys who
Speaker 4: played defense and shoot threes, and they started going for
Speaker 4: playmakers after that. It didn't make any sense. And somehow
Speaker 4: Rob Polinka got even more job security. So I don't know.
Speaker 4: Lakers will do alright, though. If they can find a
Speaker 4: way to play the Spurs every single game, that's a
Speaker 4: good point. Good job by them winning four out of
Speaker 4: five against the Lakers or against the Spurs and the Pistons,
Speaker 4: because if they all lost those ones, I mean the seat.
Speaker 4: I think the season is over for the Lakers already,
Speaker 4: But if you lose against the worst teams, it's really
Speaker 4: over over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just add here Ad and Lebron both probably
Speaker 2: for tonight's game here on Wednesday night, and see if
Speaker 2: they're even playing. All right, let's take our first break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll get to the other two
Speaker 2: divisions in the Western Conference and share our biggest surprises
Speaker 2: for each team. Don't go anywhere, all right, back in
Speaker 2: the Classic Factory, biggest surprise for each team in the
Speaker 2: Western Conference. At the quarter mark of the NBA season,
Speaker 2: we are making our way to the Northwest Division. Denver
Speaker 2: Nuggets surprising a lot of people trade But what's your
Speaker 2: big surprise?
Speaker 4: Biggest surprise for me. You're gonna love this one, skeets.
Speaker 4: Nikolay Jokic is leading the Basketball Reference MVP tracker. WHOA,
Speaker 4: this guy's got a thirty percent chance of winning his
Speaker 4: third straight MVP. He is fifty sixth in the league
Speaker 4: right now in field goal attempts per game. He's averaging
Speaker 4: twenty three points per game. He's obviously auditioning and Borden
Speaker 4: as well. Almost nine assists, almost ten rebounds, so he
Speaker 4: is almost at a triple double. But it doesn't feel
Speaker 4: like we're seeing in a Jokic MVP season, but he
Speaker 4: is dominating according to Basketball Reference. A big chunk of it, Shirley,
Speaker 4: is past performance and also team performance. The Nuggets have
Speaker 4: been winning a lot of games, so that's probably why
Speaker 4: he is ahead of Luka Doncic. But like Luca is
Speaker 4: averaging a lot more points. Basically the same stats, counting wise,
Speaker 4: percentages aren't there like Jokichs are. But that's just strange
Speaker 4: to me because I've watched a lot of Nuggets games.
Speaker 4: They look good, they don't look great. Jokic looks fairly
Speaker 4: the same, except for he doesn't want to shoot as
Speaker 4: much this year, but he's still having a similar impact
Speaker 4: that we've seen in the past couple of seasons. So
Speaker 4: that's just weird to me to see him at the
Speaker 4: top of the MVP tracker, because I feel like, right now,
Speaker 4: when you're talking about who's at the table, you're almost
Speaker 4: throwing Yokic a bone, right, You're like, he's been really
Speaker 4: good this year. Maybe he's fourth or fifth on the
Speaker 4: ballot at this point, but according to Basketball Reference number one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, if you pulled most NBA fans,
Speaker 2: casual fans, diehard fans, I think they would have Yokic
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth, right behind a Lucas, a Tatum, Occurry.
Speaker 4: Maybe even a Curry.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then then and then he's probably there with your
Speaker 2: bookers and such. Buddy, Yeah, that is wild. But then again,
Speaker 2: the man sixty four point five percent effective field goal percent,
Speaker 2: Like this is the thing.
Speaker 4: He's like, I don't need to shoot, he always makes it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, but wild stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a comparison in NBA history
Speaker 3: for a guy who's won two MVPs and then shot
Speaker 3: so much less, just all of a sudden, really changed
Speaker 3: his game. Like four shots per game fewer than last season,
Speaker 3: as you said in the fifties, but fifty six field
Speaker 3: goal attempts overall, that's.
Speaker 4: He shoots less than Gary Trent Junior does.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Gary Trent Junior likes to get him
Speaker 4: off out about that, but still it's.
Speaker 3: Good, good name pull though. Thirteen and a half shots
Speaker 3: per game, it's weird. I was gonna say, I mean,
Speaker 3: we're not venturing into the Steve Nash category in terms
Speaker 3: of how little he shoots as an MVP, but man,
Speaker 3: that number is just dropped off. So yeah, I think
Speaker 3: it's hard for people to say his numbers have dropped
Speaker 3: off so drastically in terms of just raw points. Otherwise
Speaker 3: he's great. Yeah, of course for people to say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's MVP. But you know, right now, snapshot their second
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference. Well, they finished sixth last year
Speaker 3: and I was.
Speaker 2: Third in a row. What would have to happen? I
Speaker 2: think it's unlikely, But what would have to happen. They'd
Speaker 2: have to be the number one team in the league.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, you have to think that they would have
Speaker 4: to have not just the best record in the Western Conference,
Speaker 4: because Tatum has been so good for a Celtics team
Speaker 4: that has the best record in the league, followed by
Speaker 4: Gianni's so good for a Bucks team who is the
Speaker 4: second best team in the league. So if the Nuggets
Speaker 4: can I don't know, win fifteen straight games and somehow
Speaker 4: jump those teams in the standings, maybe they're How about
Speaker 4: comparison wise, Lebron in his second MVP season with the
Speaker 4: Miami Heat, when it just became I'm only taking the
Speaker 4: most efficient shots possible. Like remember him and Wade like
Speaker 4: just stop taking threes that season because they're like, we
Speaker 4: can get a great shot anytime we want to. He
Speaker 4: started shooting less and became more and more efficient. Y'all
Speaker 4: ktch just doing the same.
Speaker 3: I guess that's good. That's good, And that was his
Speaker 3: final MVP that he's gotten to this point. Unfortunately for Lebron,
Speaker 3: that's pretty good to drop the shots. I wonder if
Speaker 3: it can't.
Speaker 4: Be that it's not gonna be the biggest the same.
Speaker 3: Joint drop off and just Lebron a just shooting twelve
Speaker 3: times a game. But yeah, he became ridiculously efficient.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to the Portland Trail Blazers. I got
Speaker 2: this one. The biggest surprise to me is that Jeremy
Speaker 2: Grant has maybe turned into the Blazers' best player. Hell,
Speaker 2: this guy might be the new Wiggins. This guy year
Speaker 2: taking that small forward spot. But if availability is the
Speaker 2: best ability you've heard our guy, I'll ever say that, then, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Grant has a case because Lillard is their best player,
Speaker 2: but he's missed after games. I believe they're like four
Speaker 2: and six now after that devastating lost last night to
Speaker 2: the Clippers with Lillard not in the lineup, so you
Speaker 2: know they're treading water. But it's down to Amberty Simons,
Speaker 2: who was hit niney threes last night, and then Jeremy
Speaker 2: Grant to carry the offensive load without Lillard, and Grant
Speaker 2: is just having a remarkable year. You talk about efficiency, Shoot,
Speaker 2: he's scoring twenty one and a half points per game.
Speaker 2: He's shooting. You know, I had these stats going into
Speaker 2: last night. I think they maybe even ticked up after
Speaker 2: his game forty seven and a half percent from the
Speaker 2: field and a blistering forty eight percent from three. Jeremy
Speaker 2: Grant is shooting on nearly six attempts per game. He
Speaker 2: gets to the free throw line with the same frequency
Speaker 2: as he gets up a three point attempts. He plays
Speaker 2: solid defense, he leads the team in win shares again
Speaker 2: without Lillard there on the court, and Simons, Yeah, look
Speaker 2: he's taking a step and man, that guy is That
Speaker 2: guy's mad streaky from three. That's unbelievable when he catches fire.
Speaker 2: I just think consistently, Jeremy Grant has been a bit
Speaker 2: of a rock and I know we've talked about him
Speaker 2: a couple times this season, especially when the Blazers had
Speaker 2: their little win streak going there. So yeah, he might have.
Speaker 2: He might make a case for an All Star selection
Speaker 2: as sort of like one of the last picks for
Speaker 2: an All.
Speaker 3: I'm buying it. Yeah, I'm buying it. Team number four
Speaker 3: for him. It's just unexpected for him to be this solid.
Speaker 3: Maybe Damian Lillard can get some Executive of the Year
Speaker 3: votes like Mont mcmair because he's been for Jeremy to
Speaker 3: come join him, and people thought he was overpaid when
Speaker 3: he went to the Detroit Pistons. It wasn't the proper
Speaker 3: role for him. But to be this ridiculously solid good
Speaker 3: I don't like the best ability is availability. Thing you
Speaker 3: don't like that? No, what about an incredible basketball player?
Speaker 3: Yeah for me, but I'm not incredible.
Speaker 2: But if you're he's an incredible basketball player.
Speaker 4: He never plays availability.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the best ability, the best ability is for
Speaker 3: him to carry a team to a championship. I think.
Speaker 3: I think being a good basketball player is the best ability.
Speaker 2: I think it has to come into the equation here,
Speaker 2: I think, but.
Speaker 3: Not the best. I think Michael Jordan, if you missed
Speaker 3: ten games, he'd still be the best.
Speaker 4: He never missed games. That's why he's the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, took a couple of years.
Speaker 2: He plays some baseball. How many baseball games he miss.
Speaker 4: Probably never probably miss a one except for you know,
Speaker 4: the twenty years he was playing professional basketball instead.
Speaker 3: He didn't miss a golf game, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Ever, card games, never missed one. The guy just never
Speaker 2: missed anything. But yeah, great, shown some love to him.
Speaker 2: And look the Blazers, Like, what a weird season they've had, Like,
Speaker 2: how would you grade it so far? They're eleven and ten?
Speaker 2: Like I said, Lillard's missed half the time. Good a
Speaker 2: b Like they haven't blown you away. But I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people When we were coming to the season,
Speaker 2: people thought they werena be one of the worst teams
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference. So I guess they're exceeding expectations.
Speaker 3: High high grade, high grade. I'd go as okay, nice, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's similar to the next team that we're getting to.
Speaker 2: I think, Okay, let's go to the Utah Jazz. Tests.
Speaker 3: They've overachieved. For sure. They were number but even even
Speaker 3: more so I think than the Blazers because their win
Speaker 3: total was projected even lower. And yeah, they're sitting fine now.
Speaker 3: They were in the number one team for a long time,
Speaker 3: but they've dropped in the standings. Of course, that's their
Speaker 3: twelve and eleven. Exact situation that the Blazers are in,
Speaker 3: and exactly the same sort of situation is where they've
Speaker 3: got a guy who's ridiculously solid like Jeremy Grant and
Speaker 3: Lowry Market and who could make an All Star team
Speaker 3: and was looked at as a throw in in the
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell trade. This past summer he was calling sexon
Speaker 3: abaji in Larry Markin and now he could be a
Speaker 3: most improved candidate is he's there. The Jazz have played
Speaker 3: twenty three games. He's played in all of them. The
Speaker 3: best ability is availability. I'm buying it. And he's playing
Speaker 3: a career high thirty four minutes per game. He's stayed
Speaker 3: ridiculously solid. He got a great cackle out of Tree
Speaker 3: Kirby yesterday because because he's a guy who's, yeah, his temperament,
Speaker 3: effort level has been questioned before half to half as
Speaker 3: we as we talked about yesterday. But he's a rock.
Speaker 3: He is a rock, and you don't think of that
Speaker 3: with lowry market and career highs twenty two points per
Speaker 3: game and career highs and field goal percent it's true.
Speaker 3: Shooting percentage, free throws, assists, blocks, He looks like a
Speaker 3: different dude, taking a lot of shots from around the post,
Speaker 3: which is nice that post area. Court of his shots
Speaker 3: come from the post area, that range, shooting seventy seven
Speaker 3: percent at the ram. He's cash from the mid range.
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like lowry marketing. But he's just versatile.
Speaker 3: Looks like the dude who people thought would come from
Speaker 3: that number seven pick way back when he's twenty five
Speaker 3: years old. And I think, and I think this is him.
Speaker 3: This ain't Andrea Barna, he was gonna fade. I think
Speaker 3: this is him. I think we're getting lowry marketing at
Speaker 3: that twenty point per game type of guy, complimentary player,
Speaker 3: not a number one player. Yeah, for the rest of
Speaker 3: his career. I think he can. He can, he can
Speaker 3: do it. I believe in it.
Speaker 2: The biggest surprise about the Jazz happened on yesterday's podcast
Speaker 2: when you said now, you said you gotta have cleanly healthy.
Speaker 3: After it gott to be healthy.
Speaker 2: I think you thought the Utah Jazz would finish the
Speaker 2: season above five hundred. I am. I'm shocked by that
Speaker 2: stage because I don't believe it.
Speaker 3: You don't believe it. I think, yeah, they have a
Speaker 3: very slim margin. They need all their dudes to be playing,
Speaker 3: but I think Conley is key. If they have all
Speaker 3: their dudes, all their duties, that is the most important part.
Speaker 3: They need every single one of them. They have to
Speaker 3: have good availability and I think that and obviously they
Speaker 3: can't have Danny Ainge blow it up. Well, I know.
Speaker 2: That's the fascinating part. What happens in the next especially
Speaker 2: once we hit December fifteenth, when a bunch of other
Speaker 2: guys can be traded or added to packages. What will
Speaker 2: Danny Ainge do with this team?
Speaker 4: Trade them, you think so, yeah, I mean not marketing. Marketing, No, no, no,
Speaker 4: he's going to be sticking around. But like a Conley,
Speaker 4: Malik Beasley, perhaps Clarkson maybe, I don't know. Clarkson seems
Speaker 4: to be kind of an important piece for the Jazz.
Speaker 4: But if the price is right, I'm sure that Danny
Speaker 4: Ainge would be interested in some draft picks. But it's
Speaker 4: impressive what marketing's done. I thought he would have a
Speaker 4: long NBA career of just standing on the outside and
Speaker 4: shooting threes. He's a good three point shooter. The percentages
Speaker 4: have finally come around. He's back at his career average
Speaker 4: basically thirty eight percent. But for the first four seasons
Speaker 4: of his career he just stood on the out side
Speaker 4: and waited for somebody to pass him the ball and
Speaker 4: shoot an open three. Now he's moving around the court,
Speaker 4: he's scoring inside, he's scoring in the mid range. Like
Speaker 4: you're saying, tasks, it's been impressive. And shout out to
Speaker 4: Will Hardy for basically like watching Finland game tapes and
Speaker 4: being like, Oh, this guy can do stuff, Let's let
Speaker 4: him do stuff. Also surprising. I really like the Jazz
Speaker 4: is coaches sweaters that are just a plain black sweater
Speaker 4: with a tiny purple jazz.
Speaker 2: Note they're nice, either the nice the nicest zip ups
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 4: It is a straight up crew neck, just a plain
Speaker 4: black crew neck with a tiny little purple jazz.
Speaker 3: Note.
Speaker 4: It looks nice, just looks classy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think a regular crew neck would be
Speaker 3: classy enough for coaches usually is.
Speaker 4: We saw Mark day Nolton, right, that was the sloppiest.
Speaker 4: But this one, I think. I think it's just the
Speaker 4: color combos, keeping it nice and sedate, black and purple. Smooth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they look good. I agree. I agree.
Speaker 2: They've jazzed up Minnesota Timberwolves. Biggest surprise about the Wolves
Speaker 2: is how wrong I was. And maybe we were about
Speaker 2: go Bear propping up a defense still at this point
Speaker 2: in his career. We just thought, you throw Rudy Gobert
Speaker 2: on this team, like al, they'll be top ten defense,
Speaker 2: maybe top five, like that's word of what he's done
Speaker 2: for the most part with the Utah Jazz. And instead,
Speaker 2: the Wolves ranked nineteenth in defensive rating, fifteenth in opponent's
Speaker 2: effective field goal percentage, and seventeenth in opponents turnover percentage.
Speaker 2: It just hasn't been incredible. Hasn't been inspiring. Kevin Pelton
Speaker 2: shared the most jarring statistic I saw yesterday. When Gobert
Speaker 2: plays with any other power forward on the Minnesota roster,
Speaker 2: the team's defensive rebound percentage is seventy two point five percent,
Speaker 2: which is a rate that ranks almost dead last in
Speaker 2: the NBA. That's go bear out there as the center
Speaker 2: with whatever other power forward you want to put out
Speaker 2: from Minnesota. And what's shocking about that, And Pelton made
Speaker 2: point of this is when he was with Utah, like
Speaker 2: just even last year, they're like the best, the fourth
Speaker 2: best defensive bounding team percentage wise. When Gobert's out there,
Speaker 2: like that's like what he does. He just cleans up
Speaker 2: the glass. So it's just weird and it's disappointing. Of course,
Speaker 2: the Minnesota timber Wolves this year defensively sort of the
Speaker 2: vibes now the Wolves cat injury, Anthony Edwards sort of
Speaker 2: a little stagnant in terms of his growth. We thought
Speaker 2: he might like sort of pop off. Here, D'angela Russell's
Speaker 2: still there. He has one great game and then he
Speaker 2: has a couple of stinkers. So it's bad. And I thought, again,
Speaker 2: I think we sort of thought, Oh, Wolves, they're gonna
Speaker 2: win a ton of regular season games and then it'll
Speaker 2: be a question come play all of the time, and
Speaker 2: maybe the opposite is happening here. There's just gonna be
Speaker 2: sort of like an abysmal regular season team for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: and maybe if they sneak into the playoffs will surprise people.
Speaker 2: That's what they're hoping for it. But we were shocked
Speaker 2: about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Unfortunately. It seems like the Timberwolves fought along the
Speaker 4: same lines that everybody else are, like, Hey we got
Speaker 4: Rudy go bear defense and rebounding saw. They're worse on
Speaker 4: defense this year than they were last year, which doesn't
Speaker 4: make any sort of sense. But when you think about
Speaker 4: it logically, Karl Anthony Towns on the perimeter trying to
Speaker 4: check guys, that's a problem. Anthony Edwards doesn't give a
Speaker 4: full effort defensively. Russell is good at like getting in
Speaker 4: passing lanes and telling people getting passing lanes, but not
Speaker 4: a lockdown defender. They miss some of their energy, guys,
Speaker 4: no doubt, and they missed the grittiness that Patrick Beverley
Speaker 4: gave him. He was celebrating like crazy after that playing
Speaker 4: game He's a key. He was a key to them
Speaker 4: last year. Just yelling at people, I think Go Barrier
Speaker 4: yelling at him doesn't seem to have the same impact.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, final team in the Northwest. I believe you have it.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 3: Ah, the Thunder. The biggest surprise is Shay Gilli just
Speaker 3: Alexanders jump who saw this coming? Even a Shaye lover
Speaker 3: like you said, you couldn't have seen no coming. The
Speaker 3: guys jumped up. And he's different. He's different than your
Speaker 3: typical NBA guard. I know everyone's saying calling him him.
Speaker 3: He called himself Hemmy Carter when he hit that big
Speaker 3: shot in Washington, But I want to go back a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago to a little slightly older slang
Speaker 3: than him. He's different, He's built different because in a
Speaker 3: league where guards are shooting more threes, he is shooting
Speaker 3: few of them. He's taking eighteen twos a game in
Speaker 3: just three threes a game, and he used to shoot
Speaker 3: more threes, but eighty five percent of his shots are
Speaker 3: now twos. This is the fewest number of threes he's
Speaker 3: taken since his rookie year. It was increasing year to
Speaker 3: year to year's taken more and more and got up
Speaker 3: to like five per game last year and that's dropped
Speaker 3: off significantly. He's leading the league in two points attempted
Speaker 3: per game for a guard. Actually, only Yannis takes more
Speaker 3: twos per game than Shay Gilgess Alexander. It's like, it's
Speaker 3: not quite like John Morant leading the league in points
Speaker 3: in the paint crazy, but his shot profile is really
Speaker 3: really weird for a guard. Eighteen twos per game. He's
Speaker 3: also leading the league in total free throws attempted because
Speaker 3: he's getting to the line and he's playing a lot.
Speaker 3: Thirty one points per game from twenty four points per game.
Speaker 3: He's just gotten more efficient. The numbers are just the
Speaker 3: efficiency is really good. He's just gotten better and that's
Speaker 3: why he could be probably the most improved player. I
Speaker 3: think Lowry Mark's in the conversation. There's lots but but
Speaker 3: he fits the John Moran prototype of ye you know,
Speaker 3: good to to star at this point.
Speaker 2: Like Charles Barkley thinks he should start the All Star Game.
Speaker 2: He was going crazy last night. He's saying we got
Speaker 2: to take away the fan vote if SJ is not
Speaker 2: named a starter for the All Star team. A starter
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, even even myself will say, oh, pump
Speaker 2: the brakes a little bit, Chuck. He should make the
Speaker 2: All Star Team. I don't know about starting over Luca
Speaker 2: and Steph. I think that's a little extreme. Yeah, or
Speaker 2: Jah or Devin guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah, good points. Just
Speaker 2: start with making the All Star Team.
Speaker 3: But Shay Gillis Alexander did not see this com I
Speaker 3: just didn't. Didn't. That's that's it's a shocking. I know
Speaker 3: we've talked about him, and we've talked about him in
Speaker 3: the MVP conversation, but the fact that the thunder are
Speaker 3: now sort of coming back to Earth as far as
Speaker 3: the record goes, they're eight and thirteen. Still Shay is
Speaker 3: just he's carrying the team. Yeah, he really is. They've
Speaker 3: got supporting players, but he can get into the pain anytime,
Speaker 3: and he's ridiculously efficient at it. And I just hope
Speaker 3: he stays healthy because sound limping around the other night.
Speaker 2: Didn't like that he's questionable tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah good, I'm SI, but I'm set a game and
Speaker 3: you know, not sit twenty games. But he was limping
Speaker 3: out there, and they're firing every guy in the world
Speaker 3: at him. And now that's the question. Once you know
Speaker 3: that this guy is so good, you're just gonna take
Speaker 3: the ball out of his hands for the next round
Speaker 3: of games. So hopefully he can keep it up.
Speaker 2: And even Herb Jones it was nice to see someone
Speaker 2: a great defender and Herb Jones realize he wants to
Speaker 2: go left every single time. And Herb got the you know,
Speaker 2: bang bang charge call at the end of that game
Speaker 2: with of course SGA going left and he slid in
Speaker 2: left again in charge. Was it a block? It's the classic.
Speaker 2: You know you can go either way with it. But
Speaker 2: he obviously read the scouty report. Man, he wants to
Speaker 2: go left every single time, and he has all season long,
Speaker 2: scoring thirty one a game. It's been wild. So we'll
Speaker 2: see if the thunder record is like strong enough for
Speaker 2: him to get an All Star selection. I think he'd
Speaker 2: be a reserve selection instantaneously if there's an injury. But
Speaker 2: like that first twelve in the West, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If they're one of the worst teams, it'll be difficult
Speaker 2: with all the great guards, but I think you should
Speaker 2: be there. Any other thoughts, Yeah, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 2: good guards out there.
Speaker 4: Is a surprising thing about to me about Shay Gil
Speaker 4: Just Alexander as he there was a clip that went
Speaker 4: around recently of him ranking like his best players of
Speaker 4: all time Kobe Lebron Jordan. He said, Kobe was Michael
Speaker 4: Jordan on steroids, which is crazy because when you look
Speaker 4: at the stats, Shake gil Just Alexander, and there have
Speaker 4: only been five guards ever to average thirty points per
Speaker 4: game and take three or fewer three point attempts per game.
Speaker 4: It's Shay Alan Iverson, George Gervin World Be Free. And
Speaker 4: you guessed that Michael Jordan like a thousand times. You're
Speaker 4: playing exactly like Michael Jordan, blocking shots like Michael Jordan
Speaker 4: as well. You should probably put him a little higher
Speaker 4: on your list, buddy.
Speaker 2: He's too young man, twenty four years old. If Kobe
Speaker 2: is his Jordan, that's what it is, all right. Let's
Speaker 2: go to the final division here, the Memphis Grizzlies in
Speaker 2: the Southwest, Trey, it would surprise.
Speaker 4: You something that really surprised me about the Grizzlies. We
Speaker 4: did this YouTube short the other day about the Grizzlies dance,
Speaker 4: the Memphis Walk Dance. I was surprised to hear that
Speaker 4: Antonio Brown invented this dance football player Antonio Brown. He's
Speaker 4: not a big fan of the guy. Still a surprise
Speaker 4: to me that he was the guy that didn't, So
Speaker 4: that's cool for them. The other thing I will say
Speaker 4: about the Grizzlies, I'm surprised how literally talk about the Grizzlies.
Speaker 4: That seemed like every year or every weekend last season,
Speaker 4: we would come back jaw or the Grizzlies would be
Speaker 4: a winner of the week. We talked about these guys
Speaker 4: all the time. They're having a pretty decent season twelve
Speaker 4: and eight so far, they just haven't really caught fire yet.
Speaker 4: We've had definitely some John Morant highlights. He's had some
Speaker 4: big games. But I think it's the fact that first
Speaker 4: Jared Jackson Junior was missing time with injury. Now Desmond
Speaker 4: Baine is missing time with injury. So they feel very
Speaker 4: unformed right now. But they're playing well. Jazz having a
Speaker 4: great season. They just rarely come up right now.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: I think the Nuggets, the Grizzlies, and the Pelicans are
Speaker 2: all in that exact same boat, like they're playing really well,
Speaker 2: but we don't talk about them a whole lot. But
Speaker 2: you know, they obviously have star guys across all three
Speaker 2: of those teams, be it Jokich and Murray and obviously
Speaker 2: John Morant with the Grizzlies, and Zion and Brandon ingram
Speaker 2: wand Healthy and McCallum even. But yeah, we just like
Speaker 2: they've just been they've just they're sort of just like
Speaker 2: meeting expectations right now, not exceeding them, not you know,
Speaker 2: not coming up short, but they're just right there. But
Speaker 2: I think of either of those three teams, like all
Speaker 2: three of them, two of them, they're gonna have a
Speaker 2: run where because they're fully healthy whatever, Like they'll they'll
Speaker 2: rip off a nine out of ten and then I
Speaker 2: think they'll be at the top of everybody's you know,
Speaker 2: they'll go up power rankings and we'll be talking about
Speaker 2: them a lot more. But that's a good point about
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they won so many games last year that it's
Speaker 3: just not as much of a storyline. They've obviously been
Speaker 3: injured and that's hurt the win total with Desmond Band
Speaker 3: being out and Darren Jackson Junior coming back, and they're
Speaker 3: super young, they're slow playing this thing forever. There are
Speaker 3: one of the youngest teams in the NBA. They're not
Speaker 3: going forward. They're not they're not trading a lot of
Speaker 3: big parts. So they're they've got that long term view
Speaker 3: to win, you know, down the road and have a dynasty,
Speaker 3: a dynastic team that hopefully invents an even better dance.
Speaker 3: Because that's the lowest bar for the for the term dance.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just a dan finger pointing. I guess
Speaker 2: they are moving. Yeah, yeah, that's a dance.
Speaker 3: But that's like, there's nothing there's nothing.
Speaker 2: Much different than the macharna really when you think about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know there's a couple more steps you move, well,
Speaker 2: you don't really.
Speaker 3: You turn three hundred and sixty degrees. They're they're moving forward,
Speaker 3: just forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, this is the only other note about
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies. Dylan Brooks is finally trying to reduce taking
Speaker 2: thirty shots a game or twenty shots a game. He's
Speaker 2: like his last two games, he's dialed it back a
Speaker 2: little bit. I think he's like the perfect he should
Speaker 2: be between like fourteen to fifteen whatever attempts per game,
Speaker 2: and he's playing well. He's hitting half of them over
Speaker 2: the last two including three pointers. He had seven threes
Speaker 2: over the last two games combined, and in both of
Speaker 2: those victories where they crushed the Pelicans and then they
Speaker 2: held on to beat the Knicks, He's Dylan Brooks is like,
Speaker 2: I know, we make fun of him a lot, and
Speaker 2: he's got the most punchable face in the league, but
Speaker 2: like he is important to their success. Like he's a
Speaker 2: great defensive player, he's a pest and then yeah, you'd
Speaker 2: like to have the ability of a three and D
Speaker 2: type guy like that to hit some threes. And he
Speaker 2: he's you know, rounding into form, I think a little bit.
Speaker 4: And I love that if there's a game when both
Speaker 4: Jaw and Desmond Bayne are going to miss time, he
Speaker 4: is not being judicious with his shot selection. Then the
Speaker 4: thirty shot game against the Nets, that was sick. That
Speaker 4: was perfect.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like you're thirty one, didn't you.
Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, thirty one points on thirty shots. So I
Speaker 4: think that is cool. I think that it's just funny
Speaker 4: to me that he's like, fine, I'm shooting every time.
Speaker 4: And I also think we talked about this a little earlier.
Speaker 4: Julius Randall shot the ball a ton on his birthday.
Speaker 4: I think if it's your birthday, you should shoot the
Speaker 4: ball the most on the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's a good rule.
Speaker 4: That should be an unwritten rule in the NBA. That's
Speaker 4: his birthday. Let him shoot.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Pelicans. I think the biggest surprise
Speaker 2: about the pelicans twelve and eight start is that it
Speaker 2: is the franchise's best start since twenty ten to eleven. Nutsche,
Speaker 2: that's wild, Nutche. I don't know Nute was on that team,
Speaker 2: but that was the year. Marty Williams was the coach.
Speaker 2: They started eleven and one that year and they were
Speaker 2: thirteen and seven after twenty games. So they're twelve and eight,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty similar. I went and checked every other season.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe how I had
Speaker 2: to keep clicking previous season, previous season, previous season on
Speaker 2: Basketball Reference to find a better or comparable start to
Speaker 2: their twelve and eighth start this year. In that wild
Speaker 2: twenty ten eleventh a long time ago, we're talking Chris Paul,
Speaker 2: Marco Bellinelli, Trevor Ariza, David west Oak. You had Jared Jack,
Speaker 2: you had Jason Smith, and look at this who was
Speaker 2: coming off the bench for that twenty ten eleven team
Speaker 2: Willie Green Baby full circle up in here in the
Speaker 2: Classic Factory. That's nuts. So despite the injuries to this
Speaker 2: team that I just talked about, Willie Green has the
Speaker 2: Pelicans playing on both sides of the ball top six
Speaker 2: I believe in offensive and defensive rating at least last
Speaker 2: night when I checked. So that's really really good. You're
Speaker 2: a damn good team when you're like, you know, the
Speaker 2: borderline top five on both sides, and that's awesome with
Speaker 2: guys in and out of the lineup, and it's amazing
Speaker 2: because of that. They had nine guys averaging over twenty
Speaker 2: points per game plate because of you know Ingram's out
Speaker 2: and the McCollums out and Zion has been time, so
Speaker 2: good stuff. Twelve and eight. I know we talked about
Speaker 2: them a little bit yesterday and there's a little more
Speaker 2: love to the Pelicans.
Speaker 3: Did you just give I Meka okafor the short name treatment?
Speaker 3: Is that what oh?
Speaker 2: I did? Who's oh Mecca Oka? Four?
Speaker 3: You call? Yeah, you're calling. You can just throw Oak
Speaker 3: out there for and know who he is.
Speaker 2: Thirteen and seven. They lost in the first round to
Speaker 2: probably the Spurs Lakers. I don't know they made it.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I had a nice flashback, nice flashback to those blue jerseys,
Speaker 3: those bright blue tell Lee jersey.
Speaker 2: Yeah tell yeah yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to call them, but I guess
Speaker 3: they're teal Anyways, I like those three ago.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 4: That's crazy how he was playing too.
Speaker 3: How about this? This is how good Zion Williamson's first
Speaker 3: hundred games Another Michael Jordan shout out one more. Zion
Speaker 3: Willison's twenty five hundred and twenty four points are the
Speaker 3: most by a player through one hundred career games through
Speaker 3: his first hundred career games since Jordan twenty seven hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty one through his first hundred games, the most
Speaker 3: in the first hundred games since MJ.
Speaker 2: Huh Lebron didn't do it.
Speaker 3: It's a little wild, Nope, I mean not Luca did. Yeah, Luca,
Speaker 3: you think a big one. Yeah, but yeah, they've just
Speaker 3: been spread over.
Speaker 2: Yea silver.
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan's the only time he missed time the second season,
Speaker 4: So that's a secret. It's the secret. Yeah, skip that
Speaker 4: second season.
Speaker 2: Right, all right? Dallas Mavericks, back to you, Trey.
Speaker 4: Dallas Mavericks. To me, the biggest surprise is that Luka
Speaker 4: Doncic is one of the best post players in the league,
Speaker 4: currently second in the league in post points per game,
Speaker 4: fourth in post ups. Post Ups are out of favor
Speaker 4: right now. Kirk Goldsberry had a graphic not too long
Speaker 4: ago explaining that this is the lowest rate of post
Speaker 4: ups that we've seen in the NBA in a decade.
Speaker 4: Surely a decade prior to that, people were posting up
Speaker 4: all the time. It's all the people knew how to
Speaker 4: do back that. I just got a post up start
Speaker 4: at half court. Just back him on down. But Luca's
Speaker 4: doing it because you mentioned its task. The guy is huge, six',
Speaker 4: eight a muscly underneath the rest of the body kind of,
Speaker 4: guy and he's obviously drawn a lot of smaller guys
Speaker 4: on double teams and. Switches but it's not all small
Speaker 4: guys like he's his bull ball on him seven foot,
Speaker 4: two does not. Matter i'll just walk him underneath the.
Speaker 4: Basket he's got a couple of moves down. There he'll
Speaker 4: hit you with the spin to the baseline. Guarantee that's
Speaker 4: his go to. Move but if you go for that,
Speaker 4: one you're going on to block that one. Off he'll
Speaker 4: hit you with The dirk step. Back it's pretty crazy
Speaker 4: to See luca right now playing incredibly well and they
Speaker 4: operate him so much the same way That Dirk noviski. Did,
Speaker 4: Obviously luca's handling the ball a lot, more but he's
Speaker 4: getting a ton of, touches like in the mid post
Speaker 4: area Where dirk went to. Work so it's pretty cool to,
Speaker 4: see you, know five seasons After dirk retired or whatever it,
Speaker 4: is that the guy we thought would take the reins
Speaker 4: From dirk as the Next Dallas maverick superstar has done.
Speaker 4: It and he's doing it similarly To, dirk at least
Speaker 4: in this.
Speaker 3: Aspect, yeah why aren't we seeing more edits where they're
Speaker 3: shooting it from the mid range, together like you, know
Speaker 3: fade From luca To. Dirk you, know maybe it is,
Speaker 3: happening And i'm just not, saying you, know fade FROM
Speaker 3: sga TO. Asg did we do? That or did was
Speaker 3: that just in my head Like All star game oging
Speaker 3: that NO sga that seventy show thing or, Whatever, yeah
Speaker 3: and transforms TO. ASG i think.
Speaker 2: It's, YEAH i was trying to push like the AS
Speaker 2: sga FOUR asg And i've been saying that for a
Speaker 2: couple of years Or i've been trying to get him
Speaker 2: to the, game and then somebody came back at me
Speaker 2: On twitter and, said, nah it should BE sga TWO
Speaker 2: asg because that's his. NUMBER i was, like, damn that's,
Speaker 2: nice that's, good that's. Better it still, works you, know
Speaker 2: four in the. Selection but to The All Star. Game,
Speaker 2: yeah hell, yeah. Man hashtag get it going trending right,
Speaker 2: now HASHTAG sga two the number TWO asgh With luca
Speaker 2: to his usage, percentage it's like dipped a little bit
Speaker 2: thirty eight, percent which is insanely. HIGH i, mean thirty
Speaker 2: eight percent of the, possessions like really go operating through?
Speaker 2: Him what's? Wild His giannis is even higher at at
Speaker 2: thirty nine point four right. NOW i assume that will,
Speaker 2: drop especially Once middleton comes. Back but both of those
Speaker 2: guys beads right on their heels as. Well thirty seven points. Seven.
Speaker 2: Wow just give it to your best player. Time it
Speaker 2: turns out it sort of it can, work but you,
Speaker 2: know can wear them. Down we'll See, spurs, tess what
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 3: Got give it to your best player who is the
Speaker 3: best player on The San Antonio. Spurs that's the that's the.
Speaker 3: Question it's what surprised me is that it's it's kind
Speaker 3: of hard to tell with these bad teams who's going
Speaker 3: to be AN nba player for a long, time who's
Speaker 3: going to have a great. Career and they have one
Speaker 3: of the youngest teams in THE. Nba they're starting a
Speaker 3: twenty year, old a couple of twenty, two is a
Speaker 3: twenty three and old Man Yaka pearl at twenty. Seven
Speaker 3: so if you look at this team and you watch,
Speaker 3: them can you see a guy that's going to be
Speaker 3: a fifteen year career type of? Player And Devin vessel
Speaker 3: at shooting GUARD i think is and he is sort
Speaker 3: of flying out of the. Radar he's scoring twenty points per,
Speaker 3: game and, yeah points have to be scored even on bad,
Speaker 3: teams but he's flying under the. Radar this is year
Speaker 3: three for. Him he's a shooting. Guard what he, is
Speaker 3: he's a pure. Shooter but he hadn't found his shot
Speaker 3: until this. Year, really he was thirty five and thirty
Speaker 3: six percent from three and now he' shooting forty two
Speaker 3: percent from. Three that's incredible and that's what they draft
Speaker 3: him for at number. Eleven he's taken seven threes a.
Speaker 3: Game he's a starter Averaging, yeah that twenty point per game,
Speaker 3: number he's kind of flying out of the radar to,
Speaker 3: Me SO i believe in. Him And i'm not gonna
Speaker 3: make this one long because it is The spurs and
Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to tell what they're gonna do
Speaker 3: with this. Team just keep on being bad because they're
Speaker 3: the baddiest of the bads right. Now they're twenty ninth and,
Speaker 3: offense twenty ninth in, defense which is kind of surprising
Speaker 3: for a team that should be athletic and a team
Speaker 3: With Yaka, purdle who again is, old but if you watch,
Speaker 3: them he is also a really smart basketball. Player sawid
Speaker 3: at thirteen and ten three and a half assists a
Speaker 3: big that's a big number in good percentages other than
Speaker 3: the free throw, line which you can. Go you can
Speaker 3: Go Haka yak if you'll want, to if you're that
Speaker 3: type of. Crazy but what are they gonna? Do are
Speaker 3: they going to Trade Yaka? Perl are they going to
Speaker 3: Trade doug mc, dermott who's even older Than. Yakapurt they're
Speaker 3: going to Trade Joshu, richardson who's also you, know around.
Speaker 3: Thirty those are the guys that could be traded if
Speaker 3: they want to go even you, know, further and they
Speaker 3: never used to make mid season, trades but they do,
Speaker 3: now and so if they want to go further into
Speaker 3: that that either the Women yamas sweepstakes are just being.
Speaker 3: YOUNG i think it would make. Sense maybe Not pertle
Speaker 3: because he's just good and you need some old. Guys but,
Speaker 3: YEAH i Think Devin vessel has kind of flowed on
Speaker 3: either the radar is a really good.
Speaker 2: Player final team here in The Western. Conference i've got
Speaker 2: two surprises when it comes to The Houston. Rockets one
Speaker 2: sort of similar to what you're talking about with The.
Speaker 2: Spurs i'm Surprised Eric gordon is still on this. Team
Speaker 2: that guy's thirty four years. Old he makes twenty million
Speaker 2: dollars per, season though next year is not fully. Guaranteed
Speaker 2: he has spent seven seasons though In Houston Aaron. Gordon
Speaker 2: that caught me by. Surprise he is the last holdover
Speaker 2: from The James, harden you, Know mike d'An Toni rockets.
Speaker 2: Era he still. Starts he still plays thirty minutes per.
Speaker 2: Game LIKE i get. IT i get the idea of
Speaker 2: like you're a, young young team and it's nice to
Speaker 2: have an adult in the, room and he seems content with.
Speaker 2: It if we're being, HONEST i know there were at
Speaker 2: least some quotes From Eric GORDON i think in the
Speaker 2: off season about still sticking there and he's fine with.
Speaker 2: It but he is averaging a career low twelve point
Speaker 2: nine points per game in his shooting. Splits they're, fine
Speaker 2: they're forty, five thirty seven and eighty. Eight but you
Speaker 2: just you can't tell me That Eric gordon couldn't be
Speaker 2: used in a better role on a team with like
Speaker 2: more like playoff, aspirations championship, aspirations, whatever as sort of
Speaker 2: like a seventh or eighth, man, Right and you, know,
Speaker 2: look The lakers they want to try and just make the.
Speaker 2: Playoffs it makes sense there because they need. SHOOTING i
Speaker 2: feel like The mavericks they either got to hope their
Speaker 2: guys just start hitting, shots or maybe you make a
Speaker 2: move and try and get another shooter in. There could
Speaker 2: you Get Eric? Gordon The knicks two are a brutal
Speaker 2: three point shooting, team despite hitting a million last night Against.
Speaker 2: PISTONS i, MEAN i don't know what that deal. Is
Speaker 2: it's Like Evan fournier AND i guess obviously some draft.
Speaker 2: Capital but then it's, like, really is that that big
Speaker 2: of an? Upgrade Eric gordon Over evan. FORTY i don't,
Speaker 2: know But i'm just surprised he's still, there AND i
Speaker 2: think he will be moved at some. Point but the
Speaker 2: other surprise with The rockets is that they are the
Speaker 2: most enjoyable bad team to watch in the. LEAGUE i, think,
Speaker 2: personally of all the teams with seven wins or, LESS
Speaker 2: i Find houston the most fun to fire up on league.
Speaker 2: Pass And i'm talking about like Your lakers and Your
Speaker 2: hornets and Your spurs and Your magic and your. Pistons
Speaker 2: The rockets are super. Young they make a ton of
Speaker 2: mistakes because they lead the league in, turnovers but it's
Speaker 2: a back and forth, affair and they just have a
Speaker 2: ton of, athletes so you're catching highlight after. Highlight Jalen
Speaker 2: green is a bucket shn. Gunn he's in The Sickle.
Speaker 2: Report you, Know he's, fun fun to watch operating in the,
Speaker 2: post making. Plays Kenyan Martin, Junior we've talked about a highlight.
Speaker 2: Machine leads the league in highlights per. SECOND i Saw
Speaker 2: Kevin pelton with that Sad i'm just. Kidding and Then jabari's.
Speaker 2: Junior he's starting to find his groove. Too he's like
Speaker 2: coming around. Here he's averaging fifteen and eight over his
Speaker 2: last six. Games he's shooting forty percent from. Deep Kevin Porter,
Speaker 2: junior he's a wild. Card they're just. Fun they don't
Speaker 2: win a lot of, games, obviously but they're in a
Speaker 2: lot of, games AND i think they're the best bad
Speaker 2: team to. Watch so those are a couple of surprising.
Speaker 4: Things i'm always surprised by how watchable A rockets. Game, yes,
Speaker 4: yeah you're, like you know they're gonna blow it at the.
Speaker 4: End you know it's gonna be an entertaining watch as
Speaker 4: it goes, Down so kind of perfect for The. Rockets and,
Speaker 4: Yeah shangun is awesome to. WATCH i Saw Kevin Porter
Speaker 4: junior said they call him Baby. Joker.
Speaker 3: Yeah the rest of.
Speaker 4: The rockets play style is certainly. Similar shangun not quite
Speaker 4: the passer That yokich, is obviously nobody, is but, man
Speaker 4: he is a load down there on the.
Speaker 3: Block it was good to Hear shangun say that is
Speaker 3: his idol growing. Up so that's.
Speaker 4: Fittings that's weird, THOUGH i, Mean Nicola jokic is pretty, young,
Speaker 4: yeah how old is? He twenty?
Speaker 3: SEVEN i added the growing up? PART i, said it's
Speaker 3: just his. Idol oh, yeah he's his, idol probably as a,
Speaker 3: teen like you, know he's how old Is shenger is
Speaker 3: six seven years younger than in my, guess so he
Speaker 3: was growing up as a. Teen he was growing up
Speaker 3: as a. Teen we all grow in our. Adolescence sometimes we.
Speaker 3: Don't and here we, are all right.
Speaker 2: There it is all fifteen, teams a surprise about each
Speaker 2: squad in The Western. Conference let us know your biggest
Speaker 2: surprises with all fifteen of, those and we'll do The east.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we gotta take one more break when we come,
Speaker 2: back pick the results and tweet in the. Night all
Speaker 2: right back here in The Classic. Factory just give me
Speaker 2: a quick. Sec i'm trying to retweet everyone that has
Speaker 2: No dunks as the top podcast On spotify this past,
Speaker 2: year the Hashtag spotify wrapped has already. Dropped it's not
Speaker 2: Even december yet and they're already wrapping Up.
Speaker 4: Spotify listening to it In december exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly but we love to see, it so thank you
Speaker 2: to everybody that's sharing. THAT i generally see it ON
Speaker 2: i Guess twitter And, instagram where you can share that
Speaker 2: you've listened to some ten thousand minutes Of No dunks this.
Speaker 3: Year no, wild it's, like, yeah it's.
Speaker 2: Crazy it's like, days.
Speaker 4: If not, weeks one hundred and sixty six hours worth
Speaker 4: would be ten thousand. Minutes it's a. Lot, yeah that's a.
Speaker 4: Lot that's a lot of. Us there's too much. Us
Speaker 4: i'm being, honest sprinkling in a different podcast week six
Speaker 4: point nine days of.
Speaker 2: Podcasting thank, you thank you to. Everybody continue to share
Speaker 2: that on social. Media we're trying to reshare everybody that
Speaker 2: has us at least number. One if we're like three or, Fourth,
Speaker 2: yeah you, Know, no it's not getting retweet from.
Speaker 4: A Like, okay that's like toss of like gotta be
Speaker 4: number one for a. Retweet, yeah, Standard, no if we're.
Speaker 2: Coming under a windy or a, low we'll like, it
Speaker 2: but we will not retweet.
Speaker 4: It, okay how about. That it's too low number. One
Speaker 4: it could be any ranking on the top, five but
Speaker 4: it's the only sports podcast on. There so number one.
Speaker 4: Sports but like you got AN mpr one at number.
Speaker 2: ONE i haven't SEEN i haven't seen many of. THOSE
Speaker 2: i gotta say, though that's that's very.
Speaker 4: Right call you our listeners. Uninformed well if they're listening
Speaker 4: to us for.
Speaker 2: Ten thousand minutes out of, here yeah, right. Uh pickum
Speaker 2: results from last. Night we had The Warriors mavericks. Game
Speaker 2: The warriors were the favorites on the road by one
Speaker 2: and a, half small. LINE i took, Them trey took,
Speaker 2: Them we got the l task Took. Dallas and you
Speaker 2: are seven and, Eleven trey's eight and. Ten i'm ten and.
Speaker 2: Eight but it's the last, night so really it's it's
Speaker 2: coming down between you two here could, TIE i guess
Speaker 2: for last place In. NOVEMBER i know it's only a.
Speaker 2: THING i.
Speaker 3: Thought who we were? Doing the? Winner YEAH i, won you.
Speaker 3: Did we don't do anything with our. Picks we just
Speaker 3: make picks and.
Speaker 2: See how much we know about.
Speaker 3: Basketball, yeah and this is how much we know about.
Speaker 3: Basketball ten and. Eight that's the best. Record it's like
Speaker 3: five turns.
Speaker 2: Out it's, tough it's real.
Speaker 3: Doing just don't do.
Speaker 4: It do.
Speaker 3: It thirteen games the. Evening too many, games.
Speaker 4: Right skates too many. Games you don't got to tell.
Speaker 2: Me and survivor and it's our pickup, run weekly pickup,
Speaker 2: run WHICH i don't even Think i'm making it out
Speaker 2: tonight you play tonight not.
Speaker 4: Tonight. Cheez i've got, responsibilities.
Speaker 2: Unfortunate, dad, Responsibility god pick up my kid from.
Speaker 3: Basketball she's.
Speaker 4: Hoping she's hoping right?
Speaker 3: Now what's? Tonight one other responsibility you could have is
Speaker 3: creating A u R L i think would be. Appropriate
Speaker 3: does skeets think there are too MANY nba? Games tonight dot?
Speaker 3: Com and then just your. Face i'll chime in every.
Speaker 3: Night yeah, tonight, yes, Tonight, yes too many?
Speaker 4: Games?
Speaker 2: Thirteen why do we have three last? Night why do
Speaker 2: we only have one On? Thursday? Anyway what's tonight's? Game?
Speaker 3: Eminem it's a tasty.
Speaker 2: One eminem is on Your spotify rap to most.
Speaker 3: Listen To Noser no maybe a day after the Super
Speaker 3: bowl was like one song what About?
Speaker 2: YOU i did just See. EMINEM I i found myself
Speaker 2: watching The rock And Roll hall Of fame like last
Speaker 2: WEEK i think it, was and he got inducted and
Speaker 2: he he did a really weird. Thing oh, yeah oh,
Speaker 2: yeah he's old, man and he he like gave a
Speaker 2: show like it was nice in. Theory what he, did
Speaker 2: like he gave a shout out to like all the
Speaker 2: hip hop artists that have inspired, him but he did
Speaker 2: it in alphabetical order and read it and it was
Speaker 2: like way too, long like it was like one hundred.
Speaker 2: Names and again like, nice like a nice gesture because
Speaker 2: he was like he's, saying like there'sd be way more
Speaker 2: hip hop artists in The rock and Roll hall Of, Fame,
Speaker 2: okay but it was LIKE i just went on and
Speaker 2: on and on and.
Speaker 3: Anyway took him forever to get to the.
Speaker 2: Ms, yeah which.
Speaker 3: Are the two teams tonight Eminem memphis And. Minnesota oh
Speaker 3: yeah they.
Speaker 2: Are you said gambling is tough and you shouldn't do.
Speaker 2: IT i agree with. That put your house On minnesota
Speaker 2: covering this. TONIGHT i don't come, on come, on no,
Speaker 2: cat you, watch you would think the player.
Speaker 3: Bump sometimes there's a player.
Speaker 2: You, watch you, watch AND i feel confident about.
Speaker 3: This one And. Memphis the reason WHY i think there's
Speaker 3: a chance That memphis plays toughest because this is their playoff.
Speaker 3: Ria this wakes them. Up if you Remember Anthony edwards
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago said oh we're gonna go Play
Speaker 3: minnesota Or. Memphis now it's confused by all these amps
Speaker 3: that this is the game that riles us. Up who
Speaker 3: knows you got a little all.
Speaker 2: Right So trey is Taking. Minnesota, no he's Taking memphis
Speaker 2: and we're Taking.
Speaker 3: Minicon, second it's too many, games too many m. Teams good.
Speaker 2: LUCK i Like mini covering this. TONIGHT i, DO i,
Speaker 2: DO i.
Speaker 3: Do, okay let's GET i forgot WHO i? Picked its Like?
Speaker 2: MINNESOTA i.
Speaker 3: Know, anyways let's get to tweet to tweet out the.
Speaker 2: Night, Wow, okay fun tweet tonight from our Guy Jason. Gallagher.
Speaker 2: Uh he was one of many people tweeting out a
Speaker 2: photo Of Luka doncic arriving to the arena last night
Speaker 2: in his suit and his, kicks And Jason gallagher had
Speaker 2: a funny caption to go with. It luca looks like
Speaker 2: he's meeting some coworkers for happy, hour and there were
Speaker 2: a lot of great, responses a lot Of luca looks
Speaker 2: like this one was. Fun he's about to open up
Speaker 2: a business checking account At Wells. Fargo luca looks like
Speaker 2: he's ready to hit On jen From, accounting And luca
Speaker 2: look looks like it's tough to say that's a tongue.
Speaker 2: Twister luca looks like he's ordering A Vonka SODA dfb
Speaker 2: though had a photo to go with his. Tweet luca
Speaker 2: looks Like vincent From. Collateral there's so similarities to the.
Speaker 2: Suit but our Own Trey kirby did him one. Better
Speaker 2: luca looks like he's gonna host AN nba talk show
Speaker 2: in twenty. Eighteen and, yeah there he. Is just throw
Speaker 2: him into the. Mix oh a, vincents.
Speaker 4: We got them.
Speaker 2: All, yeah SO i GUESS i am wearing A i,
Speaker 2: mean really. TACIT i are wearing very similar suits To,
Speaker 2: luca BUT i got the no, tie the.
Speaker 4: Kicks it's it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Accurate, yeah it, is it. Is that's a that's great stuff.
Speaker 2: There it's a, fun fun tweet when people do The
Speaker 2: luca looks like we should throw that up on Our.
Speaker 2: Instagram we'll do. That.
Speaker 4: Yeah there was A New York times column recently, about,
Speaker 4: uh what business casual dressing means now that people are
Speaker 4: returning to, offices and it's, basically you just wear a
Speaker 4: light colored button down, shirt no, tie and a pair
Speaker 4: of dress. Pants look at business.
Speaker 2: Casual he's almost. Overdressed yeah.
Speaker 4: Exactly, yeah that's showing up to the office and they're
Speaker 4: gonna take off the, jacket roll up the, Sleeves, yeah
Speaker 4: get a, computing get the computer's, putin.
Speaker 2: Get computing and hitting On jen and, accounting and Then
Speaker 2: i'll see you later at a happy. Hour all, right,
Speaker 2: fun fun tweet later, tonight, today, TONIGHT? Jd what do
Speaker 2: you want to call? IT i guess? Tonight is this? Good?
Speaker 5: Tonight?
Speaker 2: Realistically realistically tonight if you're on The east, coast probably
Speaker 2: today if you're A west coast of you or Listener
Speaker 2: mattio with is this? Good It's MATTIO jd special Guest Jackie.
Speaker 2: TONE i don't know if you know who that, is
Speaker 2: but she's the host of The Best Leftovers ever On
Speaker 2: netflix and she Was melrose On glow but you can
Speaker 2: also watch On.
Speaker 3: Netflix so an.
Speaker 2: Actress i'm gonna be Joining mattio AND jd to debate
Speaker 2: the is this?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 2: Topics do you? Do you know what's on the? DOCKET?
Speaker 2: Jd can you tease us with?
Speaker 4: One at?
Speaker 2: Least?
Speaker 5: Yeah there's one THAT i had never heard? Of oka push.
Speaker 3: Gifts have you heard of?
Speaker 2: This what's a push?
Speaker 5: Gift it's for women going into labor or something like pregnant.
Speaker 2: Women, okay that's ALL i know about. It this thing
Speaker 2: a push gift like give. Me what would be an
Speaker 2: example of a push.
Speaker 4: GIFT i Got laura a pair Of lban wicked good.
Speaker 2: Slippers, okay so, children, okay, Interesting i'll comfort For. Yeah
Speaker 2: so it could be things.
Speaker 5: Laring labor like it's to be used during, labor during.
Speaker 4: LABOR i think she put them on after she got. Home, okay,
Speaker 4: yeah you, know just around the same.
Speaker 3: Time so is.
Speaker 5: It what is the? Push is the push like pushing
Speaker 5: the baby out or?
Speaker 3: Like, okay, yeah it's called push. GIFTS i think it
Speaker 3: has to do with the actual labor. Party, yeah you,
Speaker 3: know not like?
Speaker 2: It when when do you give the gift before?
Speaker 3: Labor during? Labor after all of these questions will be,
Speaker 3: asked answer a baby gift With.
Speaker 2: JACKIE i don't. Know Does jackie have? Children i'm not
Speaker 2: SURE i have, nothing doesn't, matter give her?
Speaker 3: Opinion has? THEM i have?
Speaker 5: Kids, Again i've never heard of PUSH i would be
Speaker 5: the first thing that pops into my head is a
Speaker 5: stick right to bite down, on like A Civil war?
Speaker 5: Style oh give.
Speaker 2: Like some nice salad tongues you could then use later
Speaker 2: after biting down on.
Speaker 5: The wooden tongue tongues or what do you call?
Speaker 3: It the four? Steps, No i'm.
Speaker 2: Talking hold, on what are you.
Speaker 5: Talking i'm talking about like hauling that baby at A,
Speaker 5: YEAH i was.
Speaker 2: LIKE i was thinking of a nice old wooden salad.
Speaker 2: Set it is like a fork, Spoon, yeah what's the other?
Speaker 2: ONE i guess the ones just, spoon. Sparky they're usually
Speaker 2: a nice wood so you could bite down on, that
Speaker 2: but then using it for.
Speaker 5: Yourself that's WHAT i Was and you can use the
Speaker 5: ball to cats to, baby, right, sure why?
Speaker 3: Not and then you can use the fork and spoon
Speaker 3: to cut the umbilical.
Speaker 2: Cord doesn't have the doesn't have the knife part on.
Speaker 3: It, yeah it's spiky.
Speaker 2: Spike you a good job at. It that's not gonna.
Speaker 3: Work you need a.
Speaker 2: Knife i'll get you a knife set for your push.
Speaker 2: Kite you just.
Speaker 3: Push if it is just something you put in your.
Speaker 3: Fists you know the old meditation relaxation, scruncher squeeze, balls squeeze. Balls,
Speaker 3: yeah that's, good all?
Speaker 2: Right is this good podcast coming later Tonight Slash today
Speaker 2: with special Guests Jackie, Tone so keep your eyes and
Speaker 2: ears out for that. One the YouTube is this good
Speaker 2: is right here underneath our YouTube videos in the, Description
Speaker 2: so go click on that and Then tomorrow already said
Speaker 2: this biggest surprise for Each Eastern conference team at the
Speaker 2: quarter mark of THE nba, season though there are all
Speaker 2: thirteen games on tonight. Too maybe we can get you,
Speaker 2: know smart and sort of sprinkle them into the. Answers
Speaker 2: but then, again some.
Speaker 3: SHOW i, MEAN i, Know.
Speaker 2: And Then survivors on. Tonight we'll Have No bus tomorrow as,
Speaker 2: well which has its own YouTube and podcast. Feed only
Speaker 2: Three No bus episodes of remaining three or, Four so
Speaker 2: go check that out if you're A survivor, Fan let's
Speaker 2: call it. There, hey CAN i share one more thing
Speaker 2: before we? Go so you, know we're talking about bird cams.
Speaker 2: Yesterday this is. Wild so YESTERDAY i get, Home i'm
Speaker 2: bringing in the recycling in the, garbage So i'm taking
Speaker 2: it to the side of the house and what is
Speaker 2: at my feet but a dead, bird very, SAD a
Speaker 2: nice cute LITTLE i believe a sparrow of some.
Speaker 4: Sort.
Speaker 2: Dead NOW i think it hit a window and. Perished
Speaker 2: maybe a cat dropped it, There i'm not. Sure but
Speaker 2: but but but the drive in this, morning what DID
Speaker 2: i see a? Hawk sidewalk? Hawk we just talk about bird,
Speaker 2: camp the hawks stealing dogs and cats and stuff like.
Speaker 2: That and THEN i see a dead bird an a
Speaker 2: hawk within within you, know twenty four hours of talking about.
Speaker 3: It love, right we're.
Speaker 2: Here do you think birds listen to our? Podcast or
Speaker 2: were we gonna get a lot of Birds spotify? Wrapped, anyway
Speaker 2: that's a story time for. Me what do you do
Speaker 2: with a dead? BIRD i threw it in the? Garbage,
Speaker 2: YEAH i hate doing, that but what else are you
Speaker 2: doing it?
Speaker 4: That the grossest thing at my house is are outside
Speaker 4: garbage camp because it's, dead dead animals and dog.
Speaker 2: Poop that's.
Speaker 4: It and old bags a bunch of old bags and
Speaker 4: bagged it.
Speaker 3: Up, yeah it's. Gross garbage bins.
Speaker 4: Gross good garbage.
Speaker 2: Clipper. Bros you heard it here, first have a great,
Speaker 2: time turn.
Speaker 4: Up love you, guys, Awesome.
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining. Us and remember is this? Good it's not,
Speaker 3: live not going? Live is this good for?
Speaker 2: Us?
Speaker 3: No come, On, Madeo i'm ON. Jd what's going on? There?
Speaker 3: What what.
Speaker 2: Topics are you leaving on the cutting?
Speaker 5: Room there's nothing left on.
Speaker 3: It it's.
Speaker 5: Technical it's mostly just adjusting the drift in the because
Speaker 5: there's three different. Locations it's hard to.
Speaker 3: Do, yeah but it doesn't. Matter save, yourselves man save.
Speaker 2: Yours we'll see you guys. Tomorrow race, today, People
Speaker 3: So you foul