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Speaker 2: have a fun one today. We are going to go

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Speaker 2: through every single Western Conference team and share our biggest

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Speaker 2: surprise at the quarter mark of the NBA season. But

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Speaker 2: before we get to that, had three games on last night.

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Speaker 2: I want to chuck all the match you and you

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Speaker 2: guys can talk about any of the ones you want

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Speaker 2: to pretty entertaining games. Really, we had Luca and the

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Speaker 2: MAVs edging Curry and the Warriors in a West Finals replay.

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Speaker 2: Do you like travels because this one had a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of traveling violations. We had Norman Powell scoring thirty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tim Hardaway Junior hitting five threes, some timely buckets too,

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Speaker 2: How insane was the Dinwitty ejection? There a flagrant two

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Speaker 2: But tossed for that a flagrant two. And then in

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Speaker 3: What do you think Dinwitty call? Wrong travel calls? We

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Speaker 3: we have to figure out what travel calls are, what

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Speaker 2: It's that switch into that pivot foot.

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Speaker 3: So it is weird that it's happening now in November

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Speaker 3: because it wasn't a mandate in October. Tom Havistrow has

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Speaker 3: It's good for the game eventually, like it. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: At least they were consistent about it last night.

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Speaker 3: Just call it, yeah, learn, the players will learn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have any thoughts in addition to the test,

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a kind of a textbook flagrant. One.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's just got him.

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Speaker 3: He's got a magnet and he's got good reactions too.

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Speaker 4: So he sell it and he's got he's got good

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Speaker 4: facial reactions in general. The Curry travel, that's not a travel,

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Speaker 4: I don't think so you're talking about yeah, the only

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Speaker 4: travel because they missed one for Tyler hero, So it's

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Speaker 4: it's in the minds of the official. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: Well, he got called for one earlier very similar play,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I trust him. As for the other games. Just

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Speaker 2: in the Pacific Division. Yeah, I love divisions, you know it?

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Speaker 3: At the Suns in the old Pacific Division. I guess

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, yeah, all right. I guess that's a good

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00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 3: sign that it's not the surgically repaired ACL. But they're

433
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 3: thirteen to nine, which is obviously better than you'd think

434
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 3: they'd be to me, oh my, two games back of

435
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 3: number one seed in the Western.

436
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 2: Conference, absolutely, especially with Paul George not playing in every

437
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 2: single game either. And then you said they're like one

438
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 2: of the best defenses in the league, Like, kudos to

439
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 2: ty Lu and the guy's playing out there. That's pretty impressive.

440
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 2: I would not have had them at thirteen to nine

441
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: if you had told me Kawhi was going to play

442
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: one hundred minutes a quarter of the way through the season.

443
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, I guess continue to slow play it.

444
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 2: I guess is sort of the counter to this, Like

445
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 2: it's not like you're, you know, falling behind and you're like,

446
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: oh my god, we're gonna be a playing team. They're

447
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 2: still picking up wins. Pretty wild.

448
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 3: You got Hot Normy with Norman Powell playing Hot Ormy.

449
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 3: I was just thinking of a hot Bobby sandwich. That's

450
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 3: why I said a hot Army. Well, Thanksgiving just passed.

451
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 3: Remember the hot Bobby.

452
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 4: I made my own hot Bobby with leftovers. Snack it up, baby.

453
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 2: Explain that for someone that doesn't know what a hobby.

454
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Speaker 4: A hot Bobby. It's a Thanksgiving theme sandwich from Capriot's

455
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 4: and Las Vegas. You got a turkey, you got some stuffing,

456
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 4: you're throwing some cramp I don't know what, but those

457
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 4: are the three building blocks. It's a Thanksgiving sandwich, Thanksgiving

458
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 4: leftover sand.

459
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Speaker 2: I believe Matt Bonner loves a hot Bobby. I think

460
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Speaker 2: he was, Uh didn't he order something similar JD when

461
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: he was on Is This Good? With Mattio?

462
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 4: It was yeah, called the gobbler.

463
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 5: Gobbler Yeah, totally yeah, stuffing, he said, there was stuffing,

464
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 5: turkey and maybe gravy on there, probably cramberry.

465
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and he got it delivered mid Yeah, classic.

466
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Speaker 5: Botter, perfectly on brand. I ordered the sandwich in the

467
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Speaker 5: middle of his show.

468
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: You gotta love it. He's hungry. Oh yeah, six ten huge.

469
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Speaker 5: We did have a whole segments at the Horseshoe Tavern

470
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Speaker 5: with Matt Bonner making a.

471
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Speaker 2: Sandwich right right, right right.

472
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

473
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Speaker 5: Lost on the internet.

474
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Speaker 2: We don't have the we don't have the footage nothing.

475
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Speaker 5: I can't find anything. Somebody's looking for the Christmas Carol,

476
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 5: the Christmas album we did and it's gone.

477
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Speaker 3: Noxists used to be up on YouTube. I gotta find it.

478
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: Post that.

479
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's keep it going here. We're still

480
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: in the Pacific Division. I got the Sacramento Kinks. Biggest

481
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 2: surprise about the Sacramento Kings to me is that Monty

482
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 2: McNair he might get some warranted Executive of the Year votes.

483
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: Look at the moves this guy did. He brought in

484
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Speaker 2: head coach Mike Brown, who's been great. I mean he

485
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 2: installed a cow bell in the practice gym, and he

486
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: installed a beam on top of the Golden One Center roof. Wait,

487
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Speaker 2: Mike Brown, Mike Brown did that. Yes, I'm convinced he did.

488
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Speaker 4: I got a idea, guysnutes uh, you know McNair.

489
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Speaker 2: They drafted Keegan Murray at the number four pick. Now, look,

490
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: he's been he's been injured, he had ellen this city,

491
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: he's got a back issue, he's been okay, he's been okay,

492
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: he's been sold. But you know, you see the promise

493
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: there at a number four pick. But the big things

494
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: were that McNair did. The two moves were trading justin

495
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 2: Holiday mo heartless how could you be more heartless? And

496
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 2: a future draft pick for Kevin Herder, who's been unbelievable

497
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Speaker 2: for the Sacramento king starting for them, And they signed

498
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: Malik Monk to a two year, nineteen million dollar deal.

499
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 2: That guy doesn't turn twenty five until February. The almost

500
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: blew my mind when I was looking at that. Feels

501
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: like he's been in the lease so much longer. But

502
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 2: those two guys, Red Velvet and Monk combined are giving

503
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 2: you thirty points per game, eight assists, five and a

504
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Speaker 2: half rebounds, and five made threes per game because they're

505
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: both lights out shooters, or they let it fly. At

506
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 2: least Herd are obviously very efficient. From three Monk you

507
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,239
Speaker 2: know less, so but lets it fly. It can get

508
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: hot just credible moves that you know, some of us

509
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: were high on during the offseason, but I think it

510
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: went overlooked for the most part. There were other big

511
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 2: trades Murray and Gobert and Mitchell and all that. These

512
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: have been really solid additions, adding some shooting to Sabonis

513
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: and Fox as your guys. Now, the defense hasn't coming around.

514
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: It's twenty fifth in the league. Man, you'd love to

515
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: see that just get up to average with this really

516
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 2: lights out offense. But they've been a surprise team. I

517
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: know they're on a losing streak. They've had a weird year, right,

518
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: They just lost a bunch of games to start, and

519
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: then they sort of flip flopped for a bit. Then

520
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: they had the huge winning streak and now they're on

521
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: a bit of a slide, playing some good teams. But

522
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: nice moves there from Monty McNair, who I still think

523
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: is a quarterback for the Tennessee Titans. Oh, rip steeping.

524
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: That's very sad, but yeah, good stuff there from the Kings.

525
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any thoughts on that.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the signings have worked out really well. Yeah, the

527
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: Herder getting a more prominent role than he had here.

528
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: With Atlanta. You're the starting shooting guard. We're not messing

529
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 3: with that. You're the starting shooting guard. Has worked out

530
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 3: ridiculously well. Loved that for Kevin Heurdr and Malik Munk Roland. Yeah,

531
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: I think those two are are really really key to

532
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 3: their success. And it's still success even if they have

533
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: a little losing streak.

534
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: That's absolutely They're six right now in the Western Conference.

535
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. The brown the brown be can you Mike Brown That.

536
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: Sounds like something happens after a hot Bobby Sandwich.

537
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 4: Fire the brownie that didn't go.

538
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: Then that's what happened in the brainstorming session, Mike Browns like,

539
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: we'll call it the brown bean. Make it purple.

540
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: That's a better idea. All right, let's keep it going.

541
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors, back to Utre. What's the biggest price,

542
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: biggest surprise to me? Zero Andrew Wiggins buzz.

543
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: He's been awesome.

544
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: Awesome. Hasn't been awesome.

545
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 4: He's been awesome.

546
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: He's been better.

547
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: This is the problem here, This is he's been better

548
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 4: than last year. Wiggins is probably having it the best

549
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 4: season of his career at this point. He's having equivalent

550
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 4: to his best scoring season at least with the Warriors,

551
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: and he shooting forty three percent from three. But here's

552
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 4: everything you talk about with the Warriors, Steph Curry is

553
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the league, and then

554
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: their bench not coming through, in their young guys not

555
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: coming through. Maybe a little bit of Draymond Green punching

556
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: people in the face, Klay Thompson struggling, everything else on

557
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: the Warriors as a story. But Wiggins has been playing really,

558
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: really well, he said after the finals last year, He's like,

559
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: I'll never have a season where I averaged four rebounds. Again,

560
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 4: he's averaging five rebounds a game right now, a career high,

561
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 4: a career high in steals as well, a career high

562
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 4: in blocks as well. And like I said, forty three

563
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: percent from three. He's now under fifty percent from the

564
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: field after last night, but still forty nine point seven

565
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 4: close enough. The guy could be knocking on the door

566
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Speaker 4: of a fifty forty ninety if he could make a

567
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: free throw. He's sixty nine percent, nice, but not at

568
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: the free throw line. So I'm a little surprised. Wiggins,

569
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 4: you know, started the All Star Game last year a

570
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 4: bit of a miraculous happening there won a championship, completely

571
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 4: changed the narrative around him, and now he's out there

572
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: just being a good basketball player. So just letting them be.

573
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was fitting that you said Andrew

574
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: Wiggins having a good year. Dead silence, Yeah, because that's

575
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: what's happening. Yeah. Yeah, But you make a good point

576
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: about the All Star appearance. I thought, yeah, just a

577
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: perfect storm last year for him to make it because

578
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson was out, especially the second Golden State Warrior

579
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: went to Andrew Wiggins. I would love if they were

580
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 3: up in the standings and people were thinking about giving

581
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: them a second All Star, who would it be? Could

582
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: be Wiggins, probably not Clay. It probably go to Wiggins,

583
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 3: but it'd probably go to another player in the National

584
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: Basketball Association most likely, and the Western Conference first. But

585
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: he is having a better year.

586
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: He is still wild that they have this brutal road record,

587
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 2: with another one last night losing in Dallas where they

588
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: won two, two and nine.

589
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

590
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: Nuts, But there's still a five hundred team. There's a

591
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: bunch of on the road Golden State Warriors defending champs.

592
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: With Curry playing the way he's played all season long,

593
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: that's just weird. But Okay, a little love for Andrew Wiggins.

594
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: Don't think he's gonna be making the All Star team

595
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: this year starting there? No, no, probably not all right,

596
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: tass finish off the Pacific.

597
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 3: Everybody's favorite team, your Los Angeles Lakers. Well listen, Yeah,

598
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 3: I'm just I was. I was past tense trying to

599
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: find a way for them to be palatable on television,

600
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: on the screen because they have three odd national TV

601
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: games whatever it is, we're kind of forced to watch

602
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: them in a way, so I wanted them to be

603
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: a little bit better. But they have. I think it's

604
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: I think the ship has sailed. But there are there

605
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 3: are a lot of surprising things about them. Russell Westbrook

606
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 3: going to the bench for the first time is now

607
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: fifteen year career and being cool with it. Wow, it

608
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: is surprising. It's it's like we expect him to be

609
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: more ai than mellow in the end, but he's doing it.

610
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 3: AD knowing the Lakers don't have a center and just

611
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: playing the five the entire season, that's a little surprising.

612
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: Moving there full time, it's a little bit surprising. That's

613
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: what he should be doing. AD being fairly healthy, but

614
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: this team still being five games under five hundred. That's

615
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: also a little surprising to me. I thought, and I

616
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: was wrong, that Ad would carry the team a little

617
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: bit more. That hasn't happened. But there's some non surprising

618
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: things like Lebron missing about a quarter of the games,

619
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: which he's done in three the last four seasons, Patrick

620
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 3: Beverley being suspended. That's not surprising. But I guess the

621
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: most surprising thing to me is that Rob Polinka has

622
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: not burned the draft picks and try to make a

623
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: trade and try to make a deal. And maybe he's

624
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: being smart because this team is not going anywhere, even

625
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference where you can jump up the standings.

626
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't see it happening. The schedule is going to

627
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: get really tough in December and the Western Conference. Even

628
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 3: if you can in a you can sort of squint

629
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: and say, hey, we can do this. Like Anthony Davis

630
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: said a couple of years ago after they lost to

631
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns, I was injured and we whatever, Like

632
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: you can, you can make excuses or you can kind

633
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: of reason with yourself. But the quality of the Western

634
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: Conference is too much for the Lakers. There just aren't

635
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: enough bad teams for them to beat. They are two

636
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: and eleven against plus five hundred teams and five and

637
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: one against sub five hundred teams, and there's just too

638
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: many good teams. I think, so they don't have enough.

639
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: They do not have enough. And do you wonder like.

640
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: GML practice though, to not make make a move with

641
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: Lebron at this point of his career and you still

642
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: have Ad, Like you have two of the better players

643
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: in the league, but.

644
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: They're so far back. I just don't know if the

645
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: guys that they're gonna get are gonna help enough. Okay,

646
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: maybe maybe they're a playing team if you go get

647
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: Buddy Healed and Miles Turner or you go get Yacka

648
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: Pertle and Josh Richardson. But they're just not gonna get enough.

649
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: So I think he's being small. We've had a quarter

650
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: of the season here Ad has been extremely healthy, which

651
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: may not happen the rest of the season. Westbrook is

652
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: playing as best as he can. I don't think they

653
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: have enough. Maybe the malpractice is the last few years

654
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: or with the supporting cast after the championship, because it's

655
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: just been eroding since then.

656
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on LA.

657
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: I think Eroading is exactly the right word. They broke

658
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 4: up a championship team and that was the exact kind

659
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 4: of team you needed around Lebron. It was guys who

660
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: played defense and shoot threes, and they started going for

661
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: playmakers after that. It didn't make any sense. And somehow

662
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: Rob Polinka got even more job security. So I don't know.

663
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: Lakers will do alright, though. If they can find a

664
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Speaker 4: way to play the Spurs every single game, that's a

665
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 4: good point. Good job by them winning four out of

666
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: five against the Lakers or against the Spurs and the Pistons,

667
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: because if they all lost those ones, I mean the seat.

668
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: I think the season is over for the Lakers already,

669
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: But if you lose against the worst teams, it's really

670
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: over over.

671
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just add here Ad and Lebron both probably

672
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: for tonight's game here on Wednesday night, and see if

673
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: they're even playing. All right, let's take our first break.

674
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll get to the other two

675
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: divisions in the Western Conference and share our biggest surprises

676
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: for each team. Don't go anywhere, all right, back in

677
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: the Classic Factory, biggest surprise for each team in the

678
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: Western Conference. At the quarter mark of the NBA season,

679
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: we are making our way to the Northwest Division. Denver

680
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: Nuggets surprising a lot of people trade But what's your

681
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: big surprise?

682
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: Biggest surprise for me. You're gonna love this one, skeets.

683
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: Nikolay Jokic is leading the Basketball Reference MVP tracker. WHOA,

684
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 4: this guy's got a thirty percent chance of winning his

685
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: third straight MVP. He is fifty sixth in the league

686
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: right now in field goal attempts per game. He's averaging

687
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: twenty three points per game. He's obviously auditioning and Borden

688
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: as well. Almost nine assists, almost ten rebounds, so he

689
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: is almost at a triple double. But it doesn't feel

690
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: like we're seeing in a Jokic MVP season, but he

691
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: is dominating according to Basketball Reference. A big chunk of it, Shirley,

692
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: is past performance and also team performance. The Nuggets have

693
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 4: been winning a lot of games, so that's probably why

694
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: he is ahead of Luka Doncic. But like Luca is

695
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: averaging a lot more points. Basically the same stats, counting wise,

696
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: percentages aren't there like Jokichs are. But that's just strange

697
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: to me because I've watched a lot of Nuggets games.

698
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: They look good, they don't look great. Jokic looks fairly

699
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: the same, except for he doesn't want to shoot as

700
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: much this year, but he's still having a similar impact

701
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 4: that we've seen in the past couple of seasons. So

702
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: that's just weird to me to see him at the

703
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: top of the MVP tracker, because I feel like, right now,

704
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: when you're talking about who's at the table, you're almost

705
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 4: throwing Yokic a bone, right, You're like, he's been really

706
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: good this year. Maybe he's fourth or fifth on the

707
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 4: ballot at this point, but according to Basketball Reference number one.

708
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, if you pulled most NBA fans,

709
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: casual fans, diehard fans, I think they would have Yokic

710
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth, right behind a Lucas, a Tatum, Occurry.

711
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: Maybe even a Curry.

712
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

713
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: And then then and then he's probably there with your

714
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: bookers and such. Buddy, Yeah, that is wild. But then again,

715
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: the man sixty four point five percent effective field goal percent,

716
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: Like this is the thing.

717
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: He's like, I don't need to shoot, he always makes it.

718
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, but wild stuff.

719
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a comparison in NBA history

720
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: for a guy who's won two MVPs and then shot

721
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: so much less, just all of a sudden, really changed

722
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: his game. Like four shots per game fewer than last season,

723
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: as you said in the fifties, but fifty six field

724
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: goal attempts overall, that's.

725
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: He shoots less than Gary Trent Junior does.

726
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 3: Wow.

727
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Gary Trent Junior likes to get him

728
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 4: off out about that, but still it's.

729
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: Good, good name pull though. Thirteen and a half shots

730
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: per game, it's weird. I was gonna say, I mean,

731
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: we're not venturing into the Steve Nash category in terms

732
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: of how little he shoots as an MVP, but man,

733
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: that number is just dropped off. So yeah, I think

734
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: it's hard for people to say his numbers have dropped

735
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: off so drastically in terms of just raw points. Otherwise

736
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: he's great. Yeah, of course for people to say, oh, yeah,

737
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: he's MVP. But you know, right now, snapshot their second

738
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference. Well, they finished sixth last year

739
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: and I was.

740
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: Third in a row. What would have to happen? I

741
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 2: think it's unlikely, But what would have to happen. They'd

742
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: have to be the number one team in the league.

743
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, you have to think that they would have

744
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 4: to have not just the best record in the Western Conference,

745
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 4: because Tatum has been so good for a Celtics team

746
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: that has the best record in the league, followed by

747
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 4: Gianni's so good for a Bucks team who is the

748
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 4: second best team in the league. So if the Nuggets

749
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: can I don't know, win fifteen straight games and somehow

750
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 4: jump those teams in the standings, maybe they're How about

751
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: comparison wise, Lebron in his second MVP season with the

752
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 4: Miami Heat, when it just became I'm only taking the

753
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: most efficient shots possible. Like remember him and Wade like

754
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: just stop taking threes that season because they're like, we

755
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: can get a great shot anytime we want to. He

756
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: started shooting less and became more and more efficient. Y'all

757
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: ktch just doing the same.

758
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: I guess that's good. That's good, And that was his

759
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: final MVP that he's gotten to this point. Unfortunately for Lebron,

760
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: that's pretty good to drop the shots. I wonder if

761
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: it can't.

762
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: Be that it's not gonna be the biggest the same.

763
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: Joint drop off and just Lebron a just shooting twelve

764
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: times a game. But yeah, he became ridiculously efficient.

765
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to the Portland Trail Blazers. I got

766
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: this one. The biggest surprise to me is that Jeremy

767
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: Grant has maybe turned into the Blazers' best player. Hell,

768
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: this guy might be the new Wiggins. This guy year

769
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: taking that small forward spot. But if availability is the

770
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: best ability you've heard our guy, I'll ever say that, then, Yeah,

771
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: Grant has a case because Lillard is their best player,

772
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: but he's missed after games. I believe they're like four

773
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: and six now after that devastating lost last night to

774
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: the Clippers with Lillard not in the lineup, so you

775
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: know they're treading water. But it's down to Amberty Simons,

776
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 2: who was hit niney threes last night, and then Jeremy

777
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: Grant to carry the offensive load without Lillard, and Grant

778
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: is just having a remarkable year. You talk about efficiency, Shoot,

779
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: he's scoring twenty one and a half points per game.

780
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: He's shooting. You know, I had these stats going into

781
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: last night. I think they maybe even ticked up after

782
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: his game forty seven and a half percent from the

783
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: field and a blistering forty eight percent from three. Jeremy

784
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: Grant is shooting on nearly six attempts per game. He

785
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: gets to the free throw line with the same frequency

786
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: as he gets up a three point attempts. He plays

787
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: solid defense, he leads the team in win shares again

788
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: without Lillard there on the court, and Simons, Yeah, look

789
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: he's taking a step and man, that guy is That

790
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 2: guy's mad streaky from three. That's unbelievable when he catches fire.

791
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: I just think consistently, Jeremy Grant has been a bit

792
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: of a rock and I know we've talked about him

793
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: a couple times this season, especially when the Blazers had

794
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: their little win streak going there. So yeah, he might have.

795
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: He might make a case for an All Star selection

796
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: as sort of like one of the last picks for

797
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: an All.

798
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: I'm buying it. Yeah, I'm buying it. Team number four

799
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: for him. It's just unexpected for him to be this solid.

800
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: Maybe Damian Lillard can get some Executive of the Year

801
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: votes like Mont mcmair because he's been for Jeremy to

802
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 3: come join him, and people thought he was overpaid when

803
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 3: he went to the Detroit Pistons. It wasn't the proper

804
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: role for him. But to be this ridiculously solid good

805
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: I don't like the best ability is availability. Thing you

806
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 3: don't like that? No, what about an incredible basketball player?

807
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah for me, but I'm not incredible.

808
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: But if you're he's an incredible basketball player.

809
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: He never plays availability.

810
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the best ability, the best ability is for

811
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: him to carry a team to a championship. I think.

812
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: I think being a good basketball player is the best ability.

813
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: I think it has to come into the equation here,

814
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: I think, but.

815
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: Not the best. I think Michael Jordan, if you missed

816
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: ten games, he'd still be the best.

817
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 4: He never missed games. That's why he's the best.

818
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, took a couple of years.

819
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: He plays some baseball. How many baseball games he miss.

820
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 4: Probably never probably miss a one except for you know,

821
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: the twenty years he was playing professional basketball instead.

822
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: He didn't miss a golf game, that's for sure.

823
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: Ever, card games, never missed one. The guy just never

824
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: missed anything. But yeah, great, shown some love to him.

825
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: And look the Blazers, Like, what a weird season they've had, Like,

826
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: how would you grade it so far? They're eleven and ten?

827
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: Like I said, Lillard's missed half the time. Good a

828
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: b Like they haven't blown you away. But I think

829
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: a lot of people When we were coming to the season,

830
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: people thought they werena be one of the worst teams

831
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference. So I guess they're exceeding expectations.

832
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: High high grade, high grade. I'd go as okay, nice, Yeah,

833
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: it's similar to the next team that we're getting to.

834
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: I think, Okay, let's go to the Utah Jazz. Tests.

835
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 3: They've overachieved. For sure. They were number but even even

836
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: more so I think than the Blazers because their win

837
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: total was projected even lower. And yeah, they're sitting fine now.

838
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: They were in the number one team for a long time,

839
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: but they've dropped in the standings. Of course, that's their

840
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: twelve and eleven. Exact situation that the Blazers are in,

841
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: and exactly the same sort of situation is where they've

842
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: got a guy who's ridiculously solid like Jeremy Grant and

843
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 3: Lowry Market and who could make an All Star team

844
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 3: and was looked at as a throw in in the

845
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell trade. This past summer he was calling sexon

846
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: abaji in Larry Markin and now he could be a

847
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: most improved candidate is he's there. The Jazz have played

848
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: twenty three games. He's played in all of them. The

849
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 3: best ability is availability. I'm buying it. And he's playing

850
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: a career high thirty four minutes per game. He's stayed

851
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: ridiculously solid. He got a great cackle out of Tree

852
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: Kirby yesterday because because he's a guy who's, yeah, his temperament,

853
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: effort level has been questioned before half to half as

854
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: we as we talked about yesterday. But he's a rock.

855
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: He is a rock, and you don't think of that

856
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: with lowry market and career highs twenty two points per

857
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: game and career highs and field goal percent it's true.

858
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: Shooting percentage, free throws, assists, blocks, He looks like a

859
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 3: different dude, taking a lot of shots from around the post,

860
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 3: which is nice that post area. Court of his shots

861
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: come from the post area, that range, shooting seventy seven

862
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: percent at the ram. He's cash from the mid range.

863
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like lowry marketing. But he's just versatile.

864
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: Looks like the dude who people thought would come from

865
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: that number seven pick way back when he's twenty five

866
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: years old. And I think, and I think this is him.

867
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: This ain't Andrea Barna, he was gonna fade. I think

868
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: this is him. I think we're getting lowry marketing at

869
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: that twenty point per game type of guy, complimentary player,

870
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: not a number one player. Yeah, for the rest of

871
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: his career. I think he can. He can, he can

872
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: do it. I believe in it.

873
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: The biggest surprise about the Jazz happened on yesterday's podcast

874
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: when you said now, you said you gotta have cleanly healthy.

875
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: After it gott to be healthy.

876
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: I think you thought the Utah Jazz would finish the

877
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: season above five hundred. I am. I'm shocked by that

878
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: stage because I don't believe it.

879
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: You don't believe it. I think, yeah, they have a

880
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: very slim margin. They need all their dudes to be playing,

881
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: but I think Conley is key. If they have all

882
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: their dudes, all their duties, that is the most important part.

883
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: They need every single one of them. They have to

884
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: have good availability and I think that and obviously they

885
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: can't have Danny Ainge blow it up. Well, I know.

886
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: That's the fascinating part. What happens in the next especially

887
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: once we hit December fifteenth, when a bunch of other

888
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: guys can be traded or added to packages. What will

889
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: Danny Ainge do with this team?

890
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: Trade them, you think so, yeah, I mean not marketing. Marketing, No, no, no,

891
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 4: he's going to be sticking around. But like a Conley,

892
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 4: Malik Beasley, perhaps Clarkson maybe, I don't know. Clarkson seems

893
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 4: to be kind of an important piece for the Jazz.

894
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: But if the price is right, I'm sure that Danny

895
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: Ainge would be interested in some draft picks. But it's

896
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: impressive what marketing's done. I thought he would have a

897
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: long NBA career of just standing on the outside and

898
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 4: shooting threes. He's a good three point shooter. The percentages

899
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: have finally come around. He's back at his career average

900
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: basically thirty eight percent. But for the first four seasons

901
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: of his career he just stood on the out side

902
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: and waited for somebody to pass him the ball and

903
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 4: shoot an open three. Now he's moving around the court,

904
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: he's scoring inside, he's scoring in the mid range. Like

905
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: you're saying, tasks, it's been impressive. And shout out to

906
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: Will Hardy for basically like watching Finland game tapes and

907
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: being like, Oh, this guy can do stuff, Let's let

908
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 4: him do stuff. Also surprising. I really like the Jazz

909
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 4: is coaches sweaters that are just a plain black sweater

910
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 4: with a tiny purple jazz.

911
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: Note they're nice, either the nice the nicest zip ups

912
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 2: or whatever.

913
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 4: It is a straight up crew neck, just a plain

914
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 4: black crew neck with a tiny little purple jazz.

915
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: Note.

916
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: It looks nice, just looks classy.

917
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think a regular crew neck would be

918
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: classy enough for coaches usually is.

919
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 4: We saw Mark day Nolton, right, that was the sloppiest.

920
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: But this one, I think. I think it's just the

921
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: color combos, keeping it nice and sedate, black and purple. Smooth.

922
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they look good. I agree. I agree.

923
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: They've jazzed up Minnesota Timberwolves. Biggest surprise about the Wolves

924
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: is how wrong I was. And maybe we were about

925
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: go Bear propping up a defense still at this point

926
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: in his career. We just thought, you throw Rudy Gobert

927
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: on this team, like al, they'll be top ten defense,

928
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: maybe top five, like that's word of what he's done

929
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: for the most part with the Utah Jazz. And instead,

930
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: the Wolves ranked nineteenth in defensive rating, fifteenth in opponent's

931
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: effective field goal percentage, and seventeenth in opponents turnover percentage.

932
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: It just hasn't been incredible. Hasn't been inspiring. Kevin Pelton

933
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: shared the most jarring statistic I saw yesterday. When Gobert

934
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: plays with any other power forward on the Minnesota roster,

935
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: the team's defensive rebound percentage is seventy two point five percent,

936
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: which is a rate that ranks almost dead last in

937
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: the NBA. That's go bear out there as the center

938
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: with whatever other power forward you want to put out

939
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: from Minnesota. And what's shocking about that, And Pelton made

940
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: point of this is when he was with Utah, like

941
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: just even last year, they're like the best, the fourth

942
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: best defensive bounding team percentage wise. When Gobert's out there,

943
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: like that's like what he does. He just cleans up

944
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: the glass. So it's just weird and it's disappointing. Of course,

945
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: the Minnesota timber Wolves this year defensively sort of the

946
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: vibes now the Wolves cat injury, Anthony Edwards sort of

947
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: a little stagnant in terms of his growth. We thought

948
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 2: he might like sort of pop off. Here, D'angela Russell's

949
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: still there. He has one great game and then he

950
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: has a couple of stinkers. So it's bad. And I thought, again,

951
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 2: I think we sort of thought, Oh, Wolves, they're gonna

952
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: win a ton of regular season games and then it'll

953
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: be a question come play all of the time, and

954
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: maybe the opposite is happening here. There's just gonna be

955
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: sort of like an abysmal regular season team for whatever reason,

956
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: and maybe if they sneak into the playoffs will surprise people.

957
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: That's what they're hoping for it. But we were shocked

958
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: about this.

959
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Unfortunately. It seems like the Timberwolves fought along the

960
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: same lines that everybody else are, like, Hey we got

961
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: Rudy go bear defense and rebounding saw. They're worse on

962
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: defense this year than they were last year, which doesn't

963
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 4: make any sort of sense. But when you think about

964
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 4: it logically, Karl Anthony Towns on the perimeter trying to

965
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: check guys, that's a problem. Anthony Edwards doesn't give a

966
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: full effort defensively. Russell is good at like getting in

967
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: passing lanes and telling people getting passing lanes, but not

968
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: a lockdown defender. They miss some of their energy, guys,

969
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: no doubt, and they missed the grittiness that Patrick Beverley

970
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 4: gave him. He was celebrating like crazy after that playing

971
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: game He's a key. He was a key to them

972
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: last year. Just yelling at people, I think Go Barrier

973
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 4: yelling at him doesn't seem to have the same impact.

974
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

975
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, final team in the Northwest. I believe you have it.

976
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder.

977
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: Ah, the Thunder. The biggest surprise is Shay Gilli just

978
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: Alexanders jump who saw this coming? Even a Shaye lover

979
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: like you said, you couldn't have seen no coming. The

980
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: guys jumped up. And he's different. He's different than your

981
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: typical NBA guard. I know everyone's saying calling him him.

982
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: He called himself Hemmy Carter when he hit that big

983
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: shot in Washington, But I want to go back a

984
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 3: couple of years ago to a little slightly older slang

985
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: than him. He's different, He's built different because in a

986
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: league where guards are shooting more threes, he is shooting

987
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 3: few of them. He's taking eighteen twos a game in

988
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: just three threes a game, and he used to shoot

989
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: more threes, but eighty five percent of his shots are

990
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: now twos. This is the fewest number of threes he's

991
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: taken since his rookie year. It was increasing year to

992
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 3: year to year's taken more and more and got up

993
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: to like five per game last year and that's dropped

994
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 3: off significantly. He's leading the league in two points attempted

995
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: per game for a guard. Actually, only Yannis takes more

996
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: twos per game than Shay Gilgess Alexander. It's like, it's

997
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: not quite like John Morant leading the league in points

998
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: in the paint crazy, but his shot profile is really

999
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: really weird for a guard. Eighteen twos per game. He's

1000
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: also leading the league in total free throws attempted because

1001
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: he's getting to the line and he's playing a lot.

1002
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: Thirty one points per game from twenty four points per game.

1003
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 3: He's just gotten more efficient. The numbers are just the

1004
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: efficiency is really good. He's just gotten better and that's

1005
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: why he could be probably the most improved player. I

1006
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: think Lowry Mark's in the conversation. There's lots but but

1007
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: he fits the John Moran prototype of ye you know,

1008
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 3: good to to star at this point.

1009
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: Like Charles Barkley thinks he should start the All Star Game.

1010
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: He was going crazy last night. He's saying we got

1011
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: to take away the fan vote if SJ is not

1012
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: named a starter for the All Star team. A starter

1013
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, even even myself will say, oh, pump

1014
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: the brakes a little bit, Chuck. He should make the

1015
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: All Star Team. I don't know about starting over Luca

1016
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: and Steph. I think that's a little extreme. Yeah, or

1017
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: Jah or Devin guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah, good points. Just

1018
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: start with making the All Star Team.

1019
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 3: But Shay Gillis Alexander did not see this com I

1020
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: just didn't. Didn't. That's that's it's a shocking. I know

1021
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: we've talked about him, and we've talked about him in

1022
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: the MVP conversation, but the fact that the thunder are

1023
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: now sort of coming back to Earth as far as

1024
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: the record goes, they're eight and thirteen. Still Shay is

1025
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: just he's carrying the team. Yeah, he really is. They've

1026
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: got supporting players, but he can get into the pain anytime,

1027
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: and he's ridiculously efficient at it. And I just hope

1028
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: he stays healthy because sound limping around the other night.

1029
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: Didn't like that he's questionable tonight.

1030
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah good, I'm SI, but I'm set a game and

1031
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 3: you know, not sit twenty games. But he was limping

1032
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: out there, and they're firing every guy in the world

1033
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: at him. And now that's the question. Once you know

1034
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: that this guy is so good, you're just gonna take

1035
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: the ball out of his hands for the next round

1036
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: of games. So hopefully he can keep it up.

1037
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: And even Herb Jones it was nice to see someone

1038
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: a great defender and Herb Jones realize he wants to

1039
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: go left every single time. And Herb got the you know,

1040
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: bang bang charge call at the end of that game

1041
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: with of course SGA going left and he slid in

1042
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: left again in charge. Was it a block? It's the classic.

1043
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: You know you can go either way with it. But

1044
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: he obviously read the scouty report. Man, he wants to

1045
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: go left every single time, and he has all season long,

1046
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: scoring thirty one a game. It's been wild. So we'll

1047
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: see if the thunder record is like strong enough for

1048
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: him to get an All Star selection. I think he'd

1049
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: be a reserve selection instantaneously if there's an injury. But

1050
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: like that first twelve in the West, I don't know.

1051
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: If they're one of the worst teams, it'll be difficult

1052
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: with all the great guards, but I think you should

1053
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: be there. Any other thoughts, Yeah, yeah, a lot of

1054
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: good guards out there.

1055
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: Is a surprising thing about to me about Shay Gil

1056
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: Just Alexander as he there was a clip that went

1057
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: around recently of him ranking like his best players of

1058
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 4: all time Kobe Lebron Jordan. He said, Kobe was Michael

1059
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 4: Jordan on steroids, which is crazy because when you look

1060
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: at the stats, Shake gil Just Alexander, and there have

1061
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 4: only been five guards ever to average thirty points per

1062
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 4: game and take three or fewer three point attempts per game.

1063
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: It's Shay Alan Iverson, George Gervin World Be Free. And

1064
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 4: you guessed that Michael Jordan like a thousand times. You're

1065
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 4: playing exactly like Michael Jordan, blocking shots like Michael Jordan

1066
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 4: as well. You should probably put him a little higher

1067
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 4: on your list, buddy.

1068
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: He's too young man, twenty four years old. If Kobe

1069
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: is his Jordan, that's what it is, all right. Let's

1070
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: go to the final division here, the Memphis Grizzlies in

1071
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: the Southwest, Trey, it would surprise.

1072
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 4: You something that really surprised me about the Grizzlies. We

1073
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: did this YouTube short the other day about the Grizzlies dance,

1074
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: the Memphis Walk Dance. I was surprised to hear that

1075
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 4: Antonio Brown invented this dance football player Antonio Brown. He's

1076
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: not a big fan of the guy. Still a surprise

1077
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: to me that he was the guy that didn't, So

1078
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 4: that's cool for them. The other thing I will say

1079
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: about the Grizzlies, I'm surprised how literally talk about the Grizzlies.

1080
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 4: That seemed like every year or every weekend last season,

1081
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: we would come back jaw or the Grizzlies would be

1082
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: a winner of the week. We talked about these guys

1083
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 4: all the time. They're having a pretty decent season twelve

1084
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 4: and eight so far, they just haven't really caught fire yet.

1085
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 4: We've had definitely some John Morant highlights. He's had some

1086
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 4: big games. But I think it's the fact that first

1087
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 4: Jared Jackson Junior was missing time with injury. Now Desmond

1088
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: Baine is missing time with injury. So they feel very

1089
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 4: unformed right now. But they're playing well. Jazz having a

1090
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 4: great season. They just rarely come up right now.

1091
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: Yep.

1092
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: I think the Nuggets, the Grizzlies, and the Pelicans are

1093
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: all in that exact same boat, like they're playing really well,

1094
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: but we don't talk about them a whole lot. But

1095
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: you know, they obviously have star guys across all three

1096
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 2: of those teams, be it Jokich and Murray and obviously

1097
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: John Morant with the Grizzlies, and Zion and Brandon ingram

1098
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: wand Healthy and McCallum even. But yeah, we just like

1099
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: they've just been they've just they're sort of just like

1100
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: meeting expectations right now, not exceeding them, not you know,

1101
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: not coming up short, but they're just right there. But

1102
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: I think of either of those three teams, like all

1103
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: three of them, two of them, they're gonna have a

1104
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: run where because they're fully healthy whatever, Like they'll they'll

1105
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: rip off a nine out of ten and then I

1106
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: think they'll be at the top of everybody's you know,

1107
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: they'll go up power rankings and we'll be talking about

1108
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 2: them a lot more. But that's a good point about

1109
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies.

1110
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they won so many games last year that it's

1111
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: just not as much of a storyline. They've obviously been

1112
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: injured and that's hurt the win total with Desmond Band

1113
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: being out and Darren Jackson Junior coming back, and they're

1114
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 3: super young, they're slow playing this thing forever. There are

1115
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: one of the youngest teams in the NBA. They're not

1116
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 3: going forward. They're not they're not trading a lot of

1117
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 3: big parts. So they're they've got that long term view

1118
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: to win, you know, down the road and have a dynasty,

1119
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: a dynastic team that hopefully invents an even better dance.

1120
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 3: Because that's the lowest bar for the for the term dance.

1121
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just a dan finger pointing. I guess

1122
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: they are moving. Yeah, yeah, that's a dance.

1123
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: But that's like, there's nothing there's nothing.

1124
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: Much different than the macharna really when you think about it.

1125
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I know there's a couple more steps you move, well,

1126
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: you don't really.

1127
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: You turn three hundred and sixty degrees. They're they're moving forward,

1128
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: just forward.

1129
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, this is the only other note about

1130
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies. Dylan Brooks is finally trying to reduce taking

1131
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: thirty shots a game or twenty shots a game. He's

1132
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: like his last two games, he's dialed it back a

1133
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: little bit. I think he's like the perfect he should

1134
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: be between like fourteen to fifteen whatever attempts per game,

1135
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: and he's playing well. He's hitting half of them over

1136
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: the last two including three pointers. He had seven threes

1137
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: over the last two games combined, and in both of

1138
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: those victories where they crushed the Pelicans and then they

1139
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: held on to beat the Knicks, He's Dylan Brooks is like,

1140
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: I know, we make fun of him a lot, and

1141
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: he's got the most punchable face in the league, but

1142
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: like he is important to their success. Like he's a

1143
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 2: great defensive player, he's a pest and then yeah, you'd

1144
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: like to have the ability of a three and D

1145
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: type guy like that to hit some threes. And he

1146
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: he's you know, rounding into form, I think a little bit.

1147
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 4: And I love that if there's a game when both

1148
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: Jaw and Desmond Bayne are going to miss time, he

1149
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 4: is not being judicious with his shot selection. Then the

1150
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 4: thirty shot game against the Nets, that was sick. That

1151
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: was perfect.

1152
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like you're thirty one, didn't you.

1153
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, thirty one points on thirty shots. So I

1154
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: think that is cool. I think that it's just funny

1155
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: to me that he's like, fine, I'm shooting every time.

1156
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: And I also think we talked about this a little earlier.

1157
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 4: Julius Randall shot the ball a ton on his birthday.

1158
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: I think if it's your birthday, you should shoot the

1159
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: ball the most on the team.

1160
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's a good rule.

1161
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 4: That should be an unwritten rule in the NBA. That's

1162
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: his birthday. Let him shoot.

1163
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: I like it.

1164
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Pelicans. I think the biggest surprise

1165
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: about the pelicans twelve and eight start is that it

1166
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: is the franchise's best start since twenty ten to eleven. Nutsche,

1167
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 2: that's wild, Nutche. I don't know Nute was on that team,

1168
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: but that was the year. Marty Williams was the coach.

1169
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: They started eleven and one that year and they were

1170
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 2: thirteen and seven after twenty games. So they're twelve and eight,

1171
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: you know, pretty similar. I went and checked every other season.

1172
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe how I had

1173
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: to keep clicking previous season, previous season, previous season on

1174
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: Basketball Reference to find a better or comparable start to

1175
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: their twelve and eighth start this year. In that wild

1176
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: twenty ten eleventh a long time ago, we're talking Chris Paul,

1177
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: Marco Bellinelli, Trevor Ariza, David west Oak. You had Jared Jack,

1178
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: you had Jason Smith, and look at this who was

1179
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: coming off the bench for that twenty ten eleven team

1180
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: Willie Green Baby full circle up in here in the

1181
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: Classic Factory. That's nuts. So despite the injuries to this

1182
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: team that I just talked about, Willie Green has the

1183
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: Pelicans playing on both sides of the ball top six

1184
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: I believe in offensive and defensive rating at least last

1185
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 2: night when I checked. So that's really really good. You're

1186
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: a damn good team when you're like, you know, the

1187
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: borderline top five on both sides, and that's awesome with

1188
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: guys in and out of the lineup, and it's amazing

1189
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: because of that. They had nine guys averaging over twenty

1190
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: points per game plate because of you know Ingram's out

1191
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: and the McCollums out and Zion has been time, so

1192
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 2: good stuff. Twelve and eight. I know we talked about

1193
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: them a little bit yesterday and there's a little more

1194
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: love to the Pelicans.

1195
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 3: Did you just give I Meka okafor the short name treatment?

1196
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 3: Is that what oh?

1197
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: I did? Who's oh Mecca Oka? Four?

1198
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 3: You call? Yeah, you're calling. You can just throw Oak

1199
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 3: out there for and know who he is.

1200
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: Thirteen and seven. They lost in the first round to

1201
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: probably the Spurs Lakers. I don't know they made it.

1202
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: I know.

1203
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: I had a nice flashback, nice flashback to those blue jerseys,

1204
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 3: those bright blue tell Lee jersey.

1205
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah tell yeah yeah, yea yeah.

1206
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what to call them, but I guess

1207
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 3: they're teal Anyways, I like those three ago.

1208
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 2: How about that?

1209
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: That's crazy how he was playing too.

1210
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: How about this? This is how good Zion Williamson's first

1211
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: hundred games Another Michael Jordan shout out one more. Zion

1212
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: Willison's twenty five hundred and twenty four points are the

1213
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: most by a player through one hundred career games through

1214
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: his first hundred career games since Jordan twenty seven hundred

1215
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: and twenty one through his first hundred games, the most

1216
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 3: in the first hundred games since MJ.

1217
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: Huh Lebron didn't do it.

1218
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 3: It's a little wild, Nope, I mean not Luca did. Yeah, Luca,

1219
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: you think a big one. Yeah, but yeah, they've just

1220
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: been spread over.

1221
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 2: Yea silver.

1222
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan's the only time he missed time the second season,

1223
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: So that's a secret. It's the secret. Yeah, skip that

1224
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: second season.

1225
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: Right, all right? Dallas Mavericks, back to you, Trey.

1226
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: Dallas Mavericks. To me, the biggest surprise is that Luka

1227
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 4: Doncic is one of the best post players in the league,

1228
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 4: currently second in the league in post points per game,

1229
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: fourth in post ups. Post Ups are out of favor

1230
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 4: right now. Kirk Goldsberry had a graphic not too long

1231
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 4: ago explaining that this is the lowest rate of post

1232
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: ups that we've seen in the NBA in a decade.

1233
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 4: Surely a decade prior to that, people were posting up

1234
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 4: all the time. It's all the people knew how to

1235
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 4: do back that. I just got a post up start

1236
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: at half court. Just back him on down. But Luca's

1237
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 4: doing it because you mentioned its task. The guy is huge, six',

1238
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: eight a muscly underneath the rest of the body kind of,

1239
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 4: guy and he's obviously drawn a lot of smaller guys

1240
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 4: on double teams and. Switches but it's not all small

1241
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: guys like he's his bull ball on him seven foot,

1242
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 4: two does not. Matter i'll just walk him underneath the.

1243
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 4: Basket he's got a couple of moves down. There he'll

1244
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 4: hit you with the spin to the baseline. Guarantee that's

1245
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 4: his go to. Move but if you go for that,

1246
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 4: one you're going on to block that one. Off he'll

1247
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: hit you with The dirk step. Back it's pretty crazy

1248
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 4: to See luca right now playing incredibly well and they

1249
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 4: operate him so much the same way That Dirk noviski. Did,

1250
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 4: Obviously luca's handling the ball a lot, more but he's

1251
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: getting a ton of, touches like in the mid post

1252
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: area Where dirk went to. Work so it's pretty cool to,

1253
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 4: see you, know five seasons After dirk retired or whatever it,

1254
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: is that the guy we thought would take the reins

1255
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: From dirk as the Next Dallas maverick superstar has done.

1256
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 4: It and he's doing it similarly To, dirk at least

1257
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 4: in this.

1258
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 3: Aspect, yeah why aren't we seeing more edits where they're

1259
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: shooting it from the mid range, together like you, know

1260
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: fade From luca To. Dirk you, know maybe it is,

1261
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: happening And i'm just not, saying you, know fade FROM

1262
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: sga TO. Asg did we do? That or did was

1263
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: that just in my head Like All star game oging

1264
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: that NO sga that seventy show thing or, Whatever, yeah

1265
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 3: and transforms TO. ASG i think.

1266
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: It's, YEAH i was trying to push like the AS

1267
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: sga FOUR asg And i've been saying that for a

1268
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: couple of years Or i've been trying to get him

1269
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: to the, game and then somebody came back at me

1270
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: On twitter and, said, nah it should BE sga TWO

1271
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: asg because that's his. NUMBER i was, like, damn that's,

1272
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: nice that's, good that's. Better it still, works you, know

1273
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: four in the. Selection but to The All Star. Game,

1274
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: yeah hell, yeah. Man hashtag get it going trending right,

1275
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: now HASHTAG sga two the number TWO asgh With luca

1276
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: to his usage, percentage it's like dipped a little bit

1277
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: thirty eight, percent which is insanely. HIGH i, mean thirty

1278
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: eight percent of the, possessions like really go operating through?

1279
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: Him what's? Wild His giannis is even higher at at

1280
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: thirty nine point four right. NOW i assume that will,

1281
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: drop especially Once middleton comes. Back but both of those

1282
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: guys beads right on their heels as. Well thirty seven points. Seven.

1283
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: Wow just give it to your best player. Time it

1284
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: turns out it sort of it can, work but you,

1285
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: know can wear them. Down we'll See, spurs, tess what

1286
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: do you?

1287
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: Got give it to your best player who is the

1288
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 3: best player on The San Antonio. Spurs that's the that's the.

1289
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: Question it's what surprised me is that it's it's kind

1290
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: of hard to tell with these bad teams who's going

1291
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 3: to be AN nba player for a long, time who's

1292
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 3: going to have a great. Career and they have one

1293
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: of the youngest teams in THE. Nba they're starting a

1294
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: twenty year, old a couple of twenty, two is a

1295
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 3: twenty three and old Man Yaka pearl at twenty. Seven

1296
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: so if you look at this team and you watch,

1297
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: them can you see a guy that's going to be

1298
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: a fifteen year career type of? Player And Devin vessel

1299
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 3: at shooting GUARD i think is and he is sort

1300
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 3: of flying out of the. Radar he's scoring twenty points per,

1301
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: game and, yeah points have to be scored even on bad,

1302
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: teams but he's flying under the. Radar this is year

1303
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 3: three for. Him he's a shooting. Guard what he, is

1304
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: he's a pure. Shooter but he hadn't found his shot

1305
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 3: until this. Year, really he was thirty five and thirty

1306
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: six percent from three and now he' shooting forty two

1307
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: percent from. Three that's incredible and that's what they draft

1308
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: him for at number. Eleven he's taken seven threes a.

1309
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: Game he's a starter Averaging, yeah that twenty point per game,

1310
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: number he's kind of flying out of the radar to,

1311
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: Me SO i believe in. Him And i'm not gonna

1312
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 3: make this one long because it is The spurs and

1313
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to tell what they're gonna do

1314
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: with this. Team just keep on being bad because they're

1315
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 3: the baddiest of the bads right. Now they're twenty ninth and,

1316
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 3: offense twenty ninth in, defense which is kind of surprising

1317
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: for a team that should be athletic and a team

1318
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: With Yaka, purdle who again is, old but if you watch,

1319
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: them he is also a really smart basketball. Player sawid

1320
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 3: at thirteen and ten three and a half assists a

1321
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: big that's a big number in good percentages other than

1322
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: the free throw, line which you can. Go you can

1323
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: Go Haka yak if you'll want, to if you're that

1324
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: type of. Crazy but what are they gonna? Do are

1325
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: they going to Trade Yaka? Perl are they going to

1326
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: Trade doug mc, dermott who's even older Than. Yakapurt they're

1327
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: going to Trade Joshu, richardson who's also you, know around.

1328
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 3: Thirty those are the guys that could be traded if

1329
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: they want to go even you, know, further and they

1330
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 3: never used to make mid season, trades but they do,

1331
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 3: now and so if they want to go further into

1332
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 3: that that either the Women yamas sweepstakes are just being.

1333
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: YOUNG i think it would make. Sense maybe Not pertle

1334
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 3: because he's just good and you need some old. Guys but,

1335
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: YEAH i Think Devin vessel has kind of flowed on

1336
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 3: either the radar is a really good.

1337
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: Player final team here in The Western. Conference i've got

1338
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: two surprises when it comes to The Houston. Rockets one

1339
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 2: sort of similar to what you're talking about with The.

1340
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: Spurs i'm Surprised Eric gordon is still on this. Team

1341
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: that guy's thirty four years. Old he makes twenty million

1342
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: dollars per, season though next year is not fully. Guaranteed

1343
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: he has spent seven seasons though In Houston Aaron. Gordon

1344
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: that caught me by. Surprise he is the last holdover

1345
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: from The James, harden you, Know mike d'An Toni rockets.

1346
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: Era he still. Starts he still plays thirty minutes per.

1347
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: Game LIKE i get. IT i get the idea of

1348
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: like you're a, young young team and it's nice to

1349
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: have an adult in the, room and he seems content with.

1350
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: It if we're being, HONEST i know there were at

1351
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: least some quotes From Eric GORDON i think in the

1352
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 2: off season about still sticking there and he's fine with.

1353
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: It but he is averaging a career low twelve point

1354
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: nine points per game in his shooting. Splits they're, fine

1355
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: they're forty, five thirty seven and eighty. Eight but you

1356
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 2: just you can't tell me That Eric gordon couldn't be

1357
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: used in a better role on a team with like

1358
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: more like playoff, aspirations championship, aspirations, whatever as sort of

1359
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: like a seventh or eighth, man, Right and you, know,

1360
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: look The lakers they want to try and just make the.

1361
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: Playoffs it makes sense there because they need. SHOOTING i

1362
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: feel like The mavericks they either got to hope their

1363
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: guys just start hitting, shots or maybe you make a

1364
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: move and try and get another shooter in. There could

1365
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: you Get Eric? Gordon The knicks two are a brutal

1366
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: three point shooting, team despite hitting a million last night Against.

1367
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: PISTONS i, MEAN i don't know what that deal. Is

1368
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: it's Like Evan fournier AND i guess obviously some draft.

1369
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: Capital but then it's, like, really is that that big

1370
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: of an? Upgrade Eric gordon Over evan. FORTY i don't,

1371
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: know But i'm just surprised he's still, there AND i

1372
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: think he will be moved at some. Point but the

1373
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: other surprise with The rockets is that they are the

1374
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: most enjoyable bad team to watch in the. LEAGUE i, think,

1375
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 2: personally of all the teams with seven wins or, LESS

1376
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: i Find houston the most fun to fire up on league.

1377
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: Pass And i'm talking about like Your lakers and Your

1378
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: hornets and Your spurs and Your magic and your. Pistons

1379
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: The rockets are super. Young they make a ton of

1380
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: mistakes because they lead the league in, turnovers but it's

1381
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: a back and forth, affair and they just have a

1382
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: ton of, athletes so you're catching highlight after. Highlight Jalen

1383
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: green is a bucket shn. Gunn he's in The Sickle.

1384
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: Report you, Know he's, fun fun to watch operating in the,

1385
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: post making. Plays Kenyan Martin, Junior we've talked about a highlight.

1386
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 2: Machine leads the league in highlights per. SECOND i Saw

1387
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: Kevin pelton with that Sad i'm just. Kidding and Then jabari's.

1388
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: Junior he's starting to find his groove. Too he's like

1389
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: coming around. Here he's averaging fifteen and eight over his

1390
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: last six. Games he's shooting forty percent from. Deep Kevin Porter,

1391
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: junior he's a wild. Card they're just. Fun they don't

1392
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: win a lot of, games, obviously but they're in a

1393
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: lot of, games AND i think they're the best bad

1394
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: team to. Watch so those are a couple of surprising.

1395
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 4: Things i'm always surprised by how watchable A rockets. Game, yes,

1396
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 4: yeah you're, like you know they're gonna blow it at the.

1397
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: End you know it's gonna be an entertaining watch as

1398
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 4: it goes, Down so kind of perfect for The. Rockets and,

1399
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah shangun is awesome to. WATCH i Saw Kevin Porter

1400
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 4: junior said they call him Baby. Joker.

1401
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah the rest of.

1402
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 4: The rockets play style is certainly. Similar shangun not quite

1403
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 4: the passer That yokich, is obviously nobody, is but, man

1404
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 4: he is a load down there on the.

1405
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 3: Block it was good to Hear shangun say that is

1406
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: his idol growing. Up so that's.

1407
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 4: Fittings that's weird, THOUGH i, Mean Nicola jokic is pretty, young,

1408
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 4: yeah how old is? He twenty?

1409
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 3: SEVEN i added the growing up? PART i, said it's

1410
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: just his. Idol oh, yeah he's his, idol probably as a,

1411
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 3: teen like you, know he's how old Is shenger is

1412
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 3: six seven years younger than in my, guess so he

1413
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: was growing up as a. Teen he was growing up

1414
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: as a. Teen we all grow in our. Adolescence sometimes we.

1415
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 3: Don't and here we, are all right.

1416
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: There it is all fifteen, teams a surprise about each

1417
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: squad in The Western. Conference let us know your biggest

1418
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: surprises with all fifteen of, those and we'll do The east.

1419
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we gotta take one more break when we come,

1420
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: back pick the results and tweet in the. Night all

1421
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: right back here in The Classic. Factory just give me

1422
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: a quick. Sec i'm trying to retweet everyone that has

1423
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 2: No dunks as the top podcast On spotify this past,

1424
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: year the Hashtag spotify wrapped has already. Dropped it's not

1425
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: Even december yet and they're already wrapping Up.

1426
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 4: Spotify listening to it In december exactly.

1427
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: Exactly but we love to see, it so thank you

1428
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: to everybody that's sharing. THAT i generally see it ON

1429
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: i Guess twitter And, instagram where you can share that

1430
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: you've listened to some ten thousand minutes Of No dunks this.

1431
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 3: Year no, wild it's, like, yeah it's.

1432
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: Crazy it's like, days.

1433
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 4: If not, weeks one hundred and sixty six hours worth

1434
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 4: would be ten thousand. Minutes it's a. Lot, yeah that's a.

1435
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 4: Lot that's a lot of. Us there's too much. Us

1436
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:26,439
Speaker 4: i'm being, honest sprinkling in a different podcast week six

1437
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 4: point nine days of.

1438
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: Podcasting thank, you thank you to. Everybody continue to share

1439
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: that on social. Media we're trying to reshare everybody that

1440
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: has us at least number. One if we're like three or, Fourth,

1441
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 2: yeah you, Know, no it's not getting retweet from.

1442
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 4: A Like, okay that's like toss of like gotta be

1443
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 4: number one for a. Retweet, yeah, Standard, no if we're.

1444
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: Coming under a windy or a, low we'll like, it

1445
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: but we will not retweet.

1446
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 4: It, okay how about. That it's too low number. One

1447
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 4: it could be any ranking on the top, five but

1448
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 4: it's the only sports podcast on. There so number one.

1449
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 4: Sports but like you got AN mpr one at number.

1450
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: ONE i haven't SEEN i haven't seen many of. THOSE

1451
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: i gotta say, though that's that's very.

1452
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 4: Right call you our listeners. Uninformed well if they're listening

1453
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: to us for.

1454
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,879
Speaker 2: Ten thousand minutes out of, here yeah, right. Uh pickum

1455
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: results from last. Night we had The Warriors mavericks. Game

1456
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: The warriors were the favorites on the road by one

1457
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: and a, half small. LINE i took, Them trey took,

1458
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: Them we got the l task Took. Dallas and you

1459
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: are seven and, Eleven trey's eight and. Ten i'm ten and.

1460
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 2: Eight but it's the last, night so really it's it's

1461
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: coming down between you two here could, TIE i guess

1462
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 2: for last place In. NOVEMBER i know it's only a.

1463
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: THING i.

1464
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 3: Thought who we were? Doing the? Winner YEAH i, won you.

1465
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 3: Did we don't do anything with our. Picks we just

1466
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: make picks and.

1467
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 2: See how much we know about.

1468
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 3: Basketball, yeah and this is how much we know about.

1469
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 3: Basketball ten and. Eight that's the best. Record it's like

1470
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 3: five turns.

1471
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: Out it's, tough it's real.

1472
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: Doing just don't do.

1473
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 4: It do.

1474
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 3: It thirteen games the. Evening too many, games.

1475
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 4: Right skates too many. Games you don't got to tell.

1476
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: Me and survivor and it's our pickup, run weekly pickup,

1477
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: run WHICH i don't even Think i'm making it out

1478
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: tonight you play tonight not.

1479
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 4: Tonight. Cheez i've got, responsibilities.

1480
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 2: Unfortunate, dad, Responsibility god pick up my kid from.

1481
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 3: Basketball she's.

1482
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 4: Hoping she's hoping right?

1483
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 3: Now what's? Tonight one other responsibility you could have is

1484
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 3: creating A u R L i think would be. Appropriate

1485
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 3: does skeets think there are too MANY nba? Games tonight dot?

1486
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 3: Com and then just your. Face i'll chime in every.

1487
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: Night yeah, tonight, yes, Tonight, yes too many?

1488
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 4: Games?

1489
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: Thirteen why do we have three last? Night why do

1490
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: we only have one On? Thursday? Anyway what's tonight's? Game?

1491
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 3: Eminem it's a tasty.

1492
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 2: One eminem is on Your spotify rap to most.

1493
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 3: Listen To Noser no maybe a day after the Super

1494
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 3: bowl was like one song what About?

1495
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 2: YOU i did just See. EMINEM I i found myself

1496
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: watching The rock And Roll hall Of fame like last

1497
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: WEEK i think it, was and he got inducted and

1498
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: he he did a really weird. Thing oh, yeah oh,

1499
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: yeah he's old, man and he he like gave a

1500
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: show like it was nice in. Theory what he, did

1501
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: like he gave a shout out to like all the

1502
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: hip hop artists that have inspired, him but he did

1503
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: it in alphabetical order and read it and it was

1504
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: like way too, long like it was like one hundred.

1505
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: Names and again like, nice like a nice gesture because

1506
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: he was like he's, saying like there'sd be way more

1507
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 2: hip hop artists in The rock and Roll hall Of, Fame,

1508
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: okay but it was LIKE i just went on and

1509
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: on and on and.

1510
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 3: Anyway took him forever to get to the.

1511
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: Ms, yeah which.

1512
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 3: Are the two teams tonight Eminem memphis And. Minnesota oh

1513
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 3: yeah they.

1514
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 2: Are you said gambling is tough and you shouldn't do.

1515
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,440
Speaker 2: IT i agree with. That put your house On minnesota

1516
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 2: covering this. TONIGHT i don't come, on come, on no,

1517
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 2: cat you, watch you would think the player.

1518
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: Bump sometimes there's a player.

1519
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: You, watch you, watch AND i feel confident about.

1520
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: This one And. Memphis the reason WHY i think there's

1521
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 3: a chance That memphis plays toughest because this is their playoff.

1522
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 3: Ria this wakes them. Up if you Remember Anthony edwards

1523
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago said oh we're gonna go Play

1524
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 3: minnesota Or. Memphis now it's confused by all these amps

1525
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: that this is the game that riles us. Up who

1526
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 3: knows you got a little all.

1527
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: Right So trey is Taking. Minnesota, no he's Taking memphis

1528
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 2: and we're Taking.

1529
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 3: Minicon, second it's too many, games too many m. Teams good.

1530
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: LUCK i Like mini covering this. TONIGHT i, DO i,

1531
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 2: DO i.

1532
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 3: Do, okay let's GET i forgot WHO i? Picked its Like?

1533
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 2: MINNESOTA i.

1534
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 3: Know, anyways let's get to tweet to tweet out the.

1535
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:57,959
Speaker 2: Night, Wow, okay fun tweet tonight from our Guy Jason. Gallagher.

1536
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 2: Uh he was one of many people tweeting out a

1537
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: photo Of Luka doncic arriving to the arena last night

1538
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: in his suit and his, kicks And Jason gallagher had

1539
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: a funny caption to go with. It luca looks like

1540
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: he's meeting some coworkers for happy, hour and there were

1541
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: a lot of great, responses a lot Of luca looks

1542
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: like this one was. Fun he's about to open up

1543
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: a business checking account At Wells. Fargo luca looks like

1544
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 2: he's ready to hit On jen From, accounting And luca

1545
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: look looks like it's tough to say that's a tongue.

1546
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 2: Twister luca looks like he's ordering A Vonka SODA dfb

1547
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: though had a photo to go with his. Tweet luca

1548
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: looks Like vincent From. Collateral there's so similarities to the.

1549
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: Suit but our Own Trey kirby did him one. Better

1550
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: luca looks like he's gonna host AN nba talk show

1551
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: in twenty. Eighteen and, yeah there he. Is just throw

1552
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 2: him into the. Mix oh a, vincents.

1553
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 4: We got them.

1554
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 2: All, yeah SO i GUESS i am wearing A i,

1555
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 2: mean really. TACIT i are wearing very similar suits To,

1556
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 2: luca BUT i got the no, tie the.

1557
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: Kicks it's it's pretty.

1558
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 2: Accurate, yeah it, is it. Is that's a that's great stuff.

1559
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 2: There it's a, fun fun tweet when people do The

1560
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: luca looks like we should throw that up on Our.

1561
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: Instagram we'll do. That.

1562
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah there was A New York times column recently, about,

1563
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 4: uh what business casual dressing means now that people are

1564
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 4: returning to, offices and it's, basically you just wear a

1565
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 4: light colored button down, shirt no, tie and a pair

1566
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 4: of dress. Pants look at business.

1567
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: Casual he's almost. Overdressed yeah.

1568
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 4: Exactly, yeah that's showing up to the office and they're

1569
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 4: gonna take off the, jacket roll up the, Sleeves, yeah

1570
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,520
Speaker 4: get a, computing get the computer's, putin.

1571
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: Get computing and hitting On jen and, accounting and Then

1572
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: i'll see you later at a happy. Hour all, right,

1573
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 2: fun fun tweet later, tonight, today, TONIGHT? Jd what do

1574
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: you want to call? IT i guess? Tonight is this? Good?

1575
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 5: Tonight?

1576
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: Realistically realistically tonight if you're on The east, coast probably

1577
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,839
Speaker 2: today if you're A west coast of you or Listener

1578
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: mattio with is this? Good It's MATTIO jd special Guest Jackie.

1579
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 2: TONE i don't know if you know who that, is

1580
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: but she's the host of The Best Leftovers ever On

1581
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: netflix and she Was melrose On glow but you can

1582
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: also watch On.

1583
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 3: Netflix so an.

1584
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: Actress i'm gonna be Joining mattio AND jd to debate

1585
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: the is this?

1586
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 3: Good?

1587
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: Topics do you? Do you know what's on the? DOCKET?

1588
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: Jd can you tease us with?

1589
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 4: One at?

1590
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 2: Least?

1591
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 5: Yeah there's one THAT i had never heard? Of oka push.

1592
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 3: Gifts have you heard of?

1593
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: This what's a push?

1594
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 5: Gift it's for women going into labor or something like pregnant.

1595
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: Women, okay that's ALL i know about. It this thing

1596
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: a push gift like give. Me what would be an

1597
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: example of a push.

1598
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 4: GIFT i Got laura a pair Of lban wicked good.

1599
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 2: Slippers, okay so, children, okay, Interesting i'll comfort For. Yeah

1600
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: so it could be things.

1601
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 5: Laring labor like it's to be used during, labor during.

1602
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 4: LABOR i think she put them on after she got. Home, okay,

1603
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 4: yeah you, know just around the same.

1604
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 3: Time so is.

1605
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 5: It what is the? Push is the push like pushing

1606
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 5: the baby out or?

1607
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 3: Like, okay, yeah it's called push. GIFTS i think it

1608
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: has to do with the actual labor. Party, yeah you,

1609
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 3: know not like?

1610
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: It when when do you give the gift before?

1611
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 3: Labor during? Labor after all of these questions will be,

1612
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 3: asked answer a baby gift With.

1613
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: JACKIE i don't. Know Does jackie have? Children i'm not

1614
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: SURE i have, nothing doesn't, matter give her?

1615
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 3: Opinion has? THEM i have?

1616
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 5: Kids, Again i've never heard of PUSH i would be

1617
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 5: the first thing that pops into my head is a

1618
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 5: stick right to bite down, on like A Civil war?

1619
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 5: Style oh give.

1620
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: Like some nice salad tongues you could then use later

1621
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: after biting down on.

1622
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 5: The wooden tongue tongues or what do you call?

1623
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 3: It the four? Steps, No i'm.

1624
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 2: Talking hold, on what are you.

1625
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 5: Talking i'm talking about like hauling that baby at A,

1626
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 5: YEAH i was.

1627
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: LIKE i was thinking of a nice old wooden salad.

1628
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: Set it is like a fork, Spoon, yeah what's the other?

1629
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 2: ONE i guess the ones just, spoon. Sparky they're usually

1630
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: a nice wood so you could bite down on, that

1631
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: but then using it for.

1632
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 5: Yourself that's WHAT i Was and you can use the

1633
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 5: ball to cats to, baby, right, sure why?

1634
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 3: Not and then you can use the fork and spoon

1635
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 3: to cut the umbilical.

1636
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: Cord doesn't have the doesn't have the knife part on.

1637
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 3: It, yeah it's spiky.

1638
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 2: Spike you a good job at. It that's not gonna.

1639
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 3: Work you need a.

1640
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: Knife i'll get you a knife set for your push.

1641
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: Kite you just.

1642
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 3: Push if it is just something you put in your.

1643
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: Fists you know the old meditation relaxation, scruncher squeeze, balls squeeze. Balls,

1644
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: yeah that's, good all?

1645
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: Right is this good podcast coming later Tonight Slash today

1646
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 2: with special Guests Jackie, Tone so keep your eyes and

1647
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 2: ears out for that. One the YouTube is this good

1648
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 2: is right here underneath our YouTube videos in the, Description

1649
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: so go click on that and Then tomorrow already said

1650
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 2: this biggest surprise for Each Eastern conference team at the

1651
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: quarter mark of THE nba, season though there are all

1652
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: thirteen games on tonight. Too maybe we can get you,

1653
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: know smart and sort of sprinkle them into the. Answers

1654
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: but then, again some.

1655
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 3: SHOW i, MEAN i, Know.

1656
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 2: And Then survivors on. Tonight we'll Have No bus tomorrow as,

1657
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: well which has its own YouTube and podcast. Feed only

1658
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: Three No bus episodes of remaining three or, Four so

1659
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: go check that out if you're A survivor, Fan let's

1660
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: call it. There, hey CAN i share one more thing

1661
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 2: before we? Go so you, know we're talking about bird cams.

1662
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 2: Yesterday this is. Wild so YESTERDAY i get, Home i'm

1663
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 2: bringing in the recycling in the, garbage So i'm taking

1664
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: it to the side of the house and what is

1665
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 2: at my feet but a dead, bird very, SAD a

1666
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: nice cute LITTLE i believe a sparrow of some.

1667
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 4: Sort.

1668
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: Dead NOW i think it hit a window and. Perished

1669
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,879
Speaker 2: maybe a cat dropped it, There i'm not. Sure but

1670
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: but but but the drive in this, morning what DID

1671
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 2: i see a? Hawk sidewalk? Hawk we just talk about bird,

1672
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 2: camp the hawks stealing dogs and cats and stuff like.

1673
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 2: That and THEN i see a dead bird an a

1674
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 2: hawk within within you, know twenty four hours of talking about.

1675
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 3: It love, right we're.

1676
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 2: Here do you think birds listen to our? Podcast or

1677
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: were we gonna get a lot of Birds spotify? Wrapped, anyway

1678
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 2: that's a story time for. Me what do you do

1679
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: with a dead? BIRD i threw it in the? Garbage,

1680
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 2: YEAH i hate doing, that but what else are you

1681
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: doing it?

1682
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 4: That the grossest thing at my house is are outside

1683
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 4: garbage camp because it's, dead dead animals and dog.

1684
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: Poop that's.

1685
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 4: It and old bags a bunch of old bags and

1686
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 4: bagged it.

1687
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: Up, yeah it's. Gross garbage bins.

1688
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 4: Gross good garbage.

1689
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: Clipper. Bros you heard it here, first have a great,

1690
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 2: time turn.

1691
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 4: Up love you, guys, Awesome.

1692
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining. Us and remember is this? Good it's not,

1693
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 3: live not going? Live is this good for?

1694
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: Us?

1695
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 3: No come, On, Madeo i'm ON. Jd what's going on? There?

1696
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 3: What what.

1697
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: Topics are you leaving on the cutting?

1698
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 5: Room there's nothing left on.

1699
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 3: It it's.

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01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 5: Technical it's mostly just adjusting the drift in the because

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01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 5: there's three different. Locations it's hard to.

1702
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: Do, yeah but it doesn't. Matter save, yourselves man save.

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01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: Yours we'll see you guys. Tomorrow race, today, People

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: So you foul