1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Today's episode was recorded before the SAG after strike began 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: on July fourteenth. Table for two Thanks you, as always 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: for tuning in and supporting entertainers. Hello everyone, and thank 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: you for joining us for another episode of Table for two. 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: We're back in my hometown, New York City at the 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: unrivaled Via Cororota, and I'm thrilled to be having lunch 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: with another hometown boy today. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me today. Pleasure you look good. 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: No, I'm hanging in there. 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: He's a Broadway actor, a movie star, and he's married 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: to one of the most famous actresses in the world, 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker. He and Sarah Jessica are taking Plaza 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Suite the Neil Simon Play to London's West End next year, 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: following what was a sold out Broadway run. He was 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: just in No Hard Feelings, one of the biggest comedies 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, and he's also playing the infamous 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: farmer exact Richard Sackler in the Netflix limited series Painkiller. 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: What do you want to eat? 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: Do you need a menu? 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 3: What do you eat? 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that. Catch your to pethag because I 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: have to. That's good that's good. That's right. Today we're 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: having lunch with Matthew Broderick. 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 5: Sorry listeners at home that you can't have just a 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 5: little of. 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: That, So pull up a chair, pour yourself a glass 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: of rose, and enjoy the show. I'm Bruce Bosi and 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: this is my podcast Table for two. I kind of 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: want to start Matthew. I have such an affinity for you. 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: I think you're just one of the nicest people, most 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: talented people. 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: If you're a New York boy. I grew up in 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: the village. I was a huge fan of your dad 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: as well. 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: He's an actor who's in a TV show called Family 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, uh, James Broderick. 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Kind of show that was so special and so embodied 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: such like warmth. What was it like growing up in 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: New York City your kid New York? Yeah, which was different, 41 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: you know than it is now for your kids. 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it sure was. Let's see, I grew up on 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 5: Washington Square North. 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: I know, I can't believe them. I always think of 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: you when I passed by that streets. 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: A series of Brownstone, Yeah, yeah, we were in the 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 5: one not Brownstone, the one like apartment shabby apartment filting 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 5: on that block. 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: It was us. 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 5: But I was born on Ninth Street and Fifth Avenue 51 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 5: in a very small apartment with my two We were 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 5: all in one room, me and my two sisters. 53 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: Wow, you were born in No, I was born. 54 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: In the hospital, I could say. 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 5: But I was taken in my blanket to Ninth Street 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 5: until I was four, and then I moved. The big 57 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: move was to Washington was two blocks down Fifth, okay, 58 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 5: and then we had our own bedroom. 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: Right, So that's where I really grew up. The village 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: was the park was there. 61 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 5: Was bongos and drums all day. We had some windows 62 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: facing the park. Yeah, there's a lot of music all 63 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 5: the time. 64 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: There was less like rules. It was open all night. 65 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Stuff was going down. Yeah, it wasn't. 66 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: And because you faced the park when it got dark, 67 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: it was dark on the other side. It's like normally 68 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: there's two sides of the street that have lights, so 69 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: it could. 70 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: Get a little dicey. 71 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. 72 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: Did you get mugged. 73 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: I got mugged often all through the village. I mugged 74 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: all over the village really, end Times Square area. Come 75 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: on upper west side. 76 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: Explain to the listener. 77 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: Because I got mugged once on Third Avenue and they 78 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: were like, we're going to shove your head through this 79 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: like window, give us When I had like five bucks. 80 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: It was like nineteen. 81 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: I never had any money, and people will constantly wanted it. 82 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: Yea, what was the target over you that you think 83 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: that you were constantly getting mugged? 84 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 5: I think a young guy, you know, this is like 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 5: I'm talking like twelve, you know. 86 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when an abuts a lot. 87 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: You too. 88 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: And it was mostly other boys. 89 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: You know, just being bullies and you know, getting money, 90 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 5: you know, lunch money or something like that. 91 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: But sometimes somewhat scary. Yeah. 92 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: You know, me and my friend Garo were skateboarding in 93 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 5: Central Park once and a massive gang came flying out 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 5: and took our skateboards and I got whacked in the 95 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 5: head with some sort of stick. That's the only time 96 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 5: I got kind of worked. So you know, it was 97 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 5: no not a joke, and thank god, you know, we 98 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 5: all survived it. But but and most of them were 99 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 5: not like that. They were more intimidating. I'm going to 100 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 5: put your head through the glass and you know, give 101 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: me what you got, or you get on the subway 102 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 5: and somebody would sit next to you and put their 103 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 5: arm around you rather aggressively and say, you know, what's 104 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: in your pocket? 105 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: What's your name? 106 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: Where? 107 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: You know, just be like asking a lot of questions. Yeah, 108 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: just waiting praying for the train to come out of 109 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: the tunnel on the platform. You know, I still remember that. 110 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think the skill set is born 111 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: from being a kid in New York? Your parents are not. 112 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: They're doing their thing, They trust the world, and you're surviving. 113 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: It's true. 114 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, back then they weren't as at least it didn't 115 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 5: feel like it. They weren't as watchful as we are 116 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 5: to our kids. 117 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: You know. 118 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: It wasn't no, they were not watchful at all. 119 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: Just yeah, they were kind of like they'd. 120 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 5: Love to go to the park and come back from 121 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 5: time for dinner, and that was it. 122 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 2: Would you even come back and say I was mugged 123 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: today on a subway or just. 124 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 3: Once or twice. 125 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes, like a police officer would come to our 126 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: school and give us a talk, you know, how to 127 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: react properly when you're being mug right, And he said, 128 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 5: always bring money with you. Don't go out with no 129 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: money and immediately give it up and try to make 130 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 5: the experience as fast as possible. More time you're haggling 131 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: or discussing, more time you're in the. 132 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: Situation the worst. I always remembered that, So try to 133 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: have it. That's a good conclusion, even if the conclusion 134 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: is your own. To do it as quickly as possible. 135 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: So you have like your band of brothers, and you 136 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: would just like kind of I mean, so I think 137 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: New York City growing up in New York City is 138 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: one of the best places to grow up. 139 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was great for me. I mean it's 140 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: you know, it's I don't have anything to compare it to, 141 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: you know, but my best friend then and still you know, 142 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: one of my very best friends is getting named Garrow. 143 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: And he lived a block from me, so we would 144 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 5: walk to school together and walk home school together. He 145 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 5: lived in Washington News and uh, as we grew up, 146 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: you know, we used the park for softball, skateboarding him Frisbee. Uh, 147 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 5: you know, it was like a like a more like 148 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 5: a playground back then. I guess it still is, you know, 149 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 5: around the fountain. 150 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: And all that. 151 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: But but it used to be even those fields were 152 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 5: improvised ball fields, you know, and now they're kind of 153 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 5: like glowing on the grass and whenever. 154 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: Right, there's chains and stuff that you can't. 155 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I knew some neighborhood kids that way too, 156 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: so you know, through through softball and baseball, I knew 157 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 5: those kids. And and some of them I still see, 158 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: and I don't remember. 159 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: We don't remember each other's names. But there's always a way. 160 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: You know, thing about New York to me. Don't you 161 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: kind of feel like it's Maybury? 162 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, it's it's little Mayberry is all over 163 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 5: the place, Like we recently moved two blocks and I 164 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 5: feel like I'm in another I. 165 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: Know, it's crazy, right, Yeah, I'm. 166 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: Like I go to a different place to get the water. 167 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: Everything's different, you know, and. 168 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: And like you to establish new relationships. 169 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: Yes, and which train station do I go to? 170 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 5: And it's just it's a new world and it's only 171 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 5: it's only two blocks away? 172 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: Crazy. Yeah, So you are like one with the subway. 173 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: Like I'm a subway man. 174 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because some people of your nage, of your stature. 175 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: Of your celebrity would not be so comfy on Yeah, 176 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: the number one and nine. 177 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 5: And number one is beautiful train. The exist it used 178 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: to be the one nine. 179 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean traffic is so horrendous in New York. 180 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 5: It's just I love to get under that traffic, and 181 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 5: I'm not so I don't get bothered on the train, 182 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 5: not really. 183 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: No, are you like baseball hat dark glasses? 184 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: I might try to wear a hat. Yeah, you don't 185 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: wear dark glasses. 186 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: And uh, I think I even like reading about how 187 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: they built the subway right, kind of like subways. 188 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: I like, did you want to go to another country? 189 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 5: I like to take the tube or you know, the 190 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 5: metro or I was curious about cities how they get around. 191 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: I've always liked that. 192 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: I think that's the best way to learn. Yeah, and 193 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: if you're in New York, it's it's really the most efficient. 194 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Otherwise you're just absolutely it's horrible. So I'm a little 195 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: bit about your parents or your mom's an artist, was 196 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: an artist, great artist, and her shows the show and 197 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: your dad incredible actor. 198 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: Were they the influence for you to get into the arts? 199 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: Was that? 200 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: How did that happen from? 201 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 202 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: They probably were. You know. 203 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 4: I grew up loving to draw, for instance, you know, 204 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: and I went to a school that was very called 205 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: City and Country, very progressive back then, particularly and really 206 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: good art studio and Clay, and I always liked art and. 207 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: But I didn't know. 208 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 5: I had never thought about being an actor really, but 209 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 5: our house was always talking about paintings or plays or 210 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 5: my you know, my parents' friends were mostly in theater 211 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 5: or some kind of show business, but also. 212 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: Artists coming and going. 213 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 214 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 5: But you know, my father was from New Hampshire and 215 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 5: he didn't get to New York, so he was in 216 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: his twenties, and so he wasn't exactly a bohemian. 217 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: He was. He seemed like somebody from New Hampshire, right, 218 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: and he did. 219 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know your dad, but yeah, even 220 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: in the role he played on Family. 221 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah he was. 222 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: He was a little like that, but much funnier. And 223 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 5: his you know, his dad was a letter carrier. 224 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: Like. 225 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 5: He did not come from the villagey arty rule, but 226 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 5: my mom came kind of. She was wealthy when she 227 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: was a kid, you know, on Park. 228 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: Avenue where she grew upright, but always wanted to get 229 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 3: to the village. Now she went to like that. So 230 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: that's the combination that I grew up in. 231 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: How did they meet? 232 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: They met at acting school. 233 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 5: My father, when he got out of the navy, went 234 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: to a place called the Neighborhood Playhouse, a very famous 235 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: acting school. My mom was there as a playwright actually 236 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 5: because she somebody had said, you know, if you want 237 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 5: to write plays, you should take. 238 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: An acting class. So and there's even a picture of 239 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 3: them in the same class. Yeah. So I grew up 240 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: like that. I grew up in a lot in backstage 241 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: at theaters with my father. 242 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: We would have our summers were often he'd get a 243 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 5: job at a summer theater and the family would get 244 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 5: to go to you know, Stockbridge, Massachusetts or wherever it 245 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 5: was and the little house. 246 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: So that's how I got out of the city. 247 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 5: And I liked to be at the theater, like I 248 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 5: would go with him at night because I just liked 249 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 5: to be backstage. It wasn't that I wanted to be 250 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 5: an actor particularly or whatever, but I wanted. 251 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: To be in that something about it. 252 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: I liked the room. I don't know what it is. 253 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: I liked. I liked the atmosphere backstage. 254 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: I liked the quiet, you know, and seriousness of it, 255 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 5: the important to pretend importance of it. 256 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that was a big part of Probably why. 257 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember specific shows that you saw that really 258 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: affected you? 259 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, My father did a House of Blue Leaves, which 260 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 5: was very good. He did it in Chicago and maybe 261 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 5: someplace else too, and he was great in that one, 262 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 5: and I loved that. 263 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: I watched that a million times and he did it. 264 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 5: O'Neill play Desire under the Elms that had Eva Marie 265 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 5: Saint in it, Wow, and John Ritter, just Ivan Maris 266 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 5: Saint was in it. 267 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: My father was in it, okay, and it went. 268 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: It was like it was successful. You know, what's three 269 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 5: different cities, I believe. And I watched that play a 270 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: billion times. Okay, whether it was good or not, I 271 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 5: think it was good, but I just like to I 272 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 5: just like to watch it. 273 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: Life is so fascinating to me because you say, Evan 274 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Marie Saint who stars in a movie with Marlon Brando 275 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: on the Waterfront, and then later on in your life 276 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: you star in a movie with Marlon Brando called. 277 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: The Freshman, Like, there's just something. 278 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: About yeah that it's incredible, And sometimes I don't a 279 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 5: lot of I have memories like that where I don't 280 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 5: realize how incredible it is until like now I'm watching 281 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 5: even Saint and I'll be like, what the hell, why 282 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 5: didn't I just sweeze her and say, I can't believe 283 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: I'm with you, right, you know, No, you don't. 284 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 6: No. 285 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 5: I just saw the documentary about Mary Tyler Moore that's 286 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 5: on right, so good. 287 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: How emotional. 288 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 5: And I met her a couple of times, you know, 289 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 5: over the years, and we did some like thing for 290 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 5: the SPCA together, and I wish I had just told 291 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 5: her I madly in love with you since I was little. 292 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 5: I can't believe what you've done for the world. And 293 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: you know, but you don't do those things, you know. 294 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: I met add Asner, and I never said, you're the 295 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: greatest freaking. 296 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: Actor, the funniest person. 297 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 5: I love ed Asner, but I never really told him that. 298 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on Table for two. Matthew grew 299 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: up in the theater, watching his father perform countless times, 300 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: so it seems natural that he would end up acting 301 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: as well. I'm curious when he made the transition to 302 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: Center State. 303 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: What was the. 304 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: First sort of lean into the theater world where I'm 305 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: going to actually be in front? 306 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, did that happen in high school? 307 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: Probably? 308 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a little bit in you know, little 309 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: plays in grammar school, which I enjoyed, but then also 310 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 5: I should mention. When I was five, I wrote on 311 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 5: my library card actor as professional he did. 312 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: That's what. That's so, I'm told, But I didn't do 313 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: anything about it. That is so. 314 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 5: But then in high school, I liked sports, you know, 315 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: and I really liked acting, but I was afraid to 316 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 5: even tell anybody that. 317 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: Oh to be made fun of. 318 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, I think I was very I was 319 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: actually pretty shy. 320 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 5: I was kind of didn't want to audition, and a 321 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 5: lot of actors are not very outgoing. It seems like, 322 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 5: at least at first, you know, reguarded or something. But 323 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 5: you know, I hurt my knee really badly when I 324 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 5: was about fifteen with sports. Yeah, were you a baseball player? 325 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 5: And I was playing soccer at that time. Not very seriously, 326 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: but I loved I worked hard, and I you know, 327 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 5: I had surgery quite serious. 328 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: Oh wow, they're any and like a meniscus. 329 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: Torn, yeah, and like dislocated knee cap and the whole 330 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: thing had to be And it was just back when 331 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: they had to. 332 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: Write like it was a big surgery. Yeah, it wasn't 333 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: like a little surgery. 334 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: Right, So I had no excuse. 335 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 5: So I auditioned for the play because I couldn't play sports, right, 336 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: And I did a Midsummer Night's Dream in high school. 337 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: Okay, little teeny part. You got a couple of laughs, 338 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: you did. 339 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I thought I was like Michael Corleoni when 340 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 5: you know, when the people are going. 341 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: To kill his father at the hospital. 342 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, and the car goes by and the florist's hands 343 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: are shaking, right, and Michael Corleoni's hands are studies a rock. 344 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: Right. When I was on. 345 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 5: Stage, nervous as I had been all month getting ready, 346 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm not that nervous. I'm kind of 347 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 5: I'm nervous, but I feel somewhat in control up here. 348 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: You're supposed to be there. 349 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I had some little inkling that this is something 350 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 5: I could maybe do. 351 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: So you enjoyed that little piece. 352 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 5: I enjoyed my little part, and and that led to 353 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: another high school part, a bigger part. 354 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: When did you start to flip into auditioning professional stuff? 355 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: Well, somebody, what year are we at now? 356 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: So, like you graduated, we're talking early eighties late. 357 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: I think I graduated in eighty eighty. Okay, so I 358 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: graduate high school in eighty right, it's a. 359 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: Big decade now for you. 360 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: What was the first, like, Oh, okay, we're gonna You're 361 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: gonna go out for this role. 362 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: There was a student at my school whose mother was 363 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 5: a casting director, Barbara Kleman, and I think she called 364 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 5: like the director of the theater stuff at the school 365 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 5: and said, you know, you have any anybody fifteen or 366 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 5: whatever who's good, and a couple of us went in an 367 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: audition for her. That's my memory of it or what. 368 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: I don't remember that it was for anything. It must 369 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 5: have been. I didn't get whatever part it was, but 370 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 5: she took an interest in me. You know, when other 371 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: things came up, I would I read a few times. 372 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 5: And then somebody said, there's an agent and this name 373 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 5: is going to sound like I'm making it up, but 374 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 5: named Fifi Oscard. 375 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: What. Yeah. 376 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 5: It was a big agency, I believe, mostly for kids 377 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 5: and maybe poodles. 378 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: Fifi Oscard, Fifi Oscard, that was her name. But she 379 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: wasn't my agent. I was somebody below her. 380 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: She was a top dog. 381 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: You were Josha Silberstein and Steve Carlson. So I suddenly 382 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: had an agent. 383 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 5: And then I started getting a lot of auditions really, 384 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 5: and I didn't get any parts, but I uh, right, away, 385 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 5: but I guess I got enough, you know, where somebody called. 386 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 5: They said we don't want him, but he was good 387 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 5: or whatever they kept. 388 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: It was like affirm enough to go in there. Okay. 389 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 390 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 5: I got a part in a huge movie, a movie 391 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: it was called No Small Affair, and I was opposite 392 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: Sally Field and it didn't get made. 393 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: Well, it did get. 394 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 5: Made later, but I was the lead, you know, and 395 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 5: it was directed by Marty Writt and they had all 396 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 5: just won Oscars for Norma Ray, right, you know. 397 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: It was a top, top of the line Columbia picture. 398 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: Your first job, yeah, going to be that was. 399 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: My first paying job. 400 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 5: And I auditioned, you know, a dozen times, and then 401 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 5: with Sally Field and a hotel room and Mary written 402 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 5: and we shot. I worked for months trying to, you know, 403 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 5: because I was so young and naive, trying to. I 404 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 5: was playing a photographer, so I had a camera run. 405 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: I tried to learn photography. I tried to pull on 406 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: DeNiro myself. 407 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: You know, wait a minute. So this was made later, 408 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: yea years later, with. 409 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: John Cryer and exactly, oh my god, okay, and. 410 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 5: We shot for about two weeks and it went okay 411 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 5: for a while, but then I started to feel like 412 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 5: they didn't really like me that much. Marty Ritt or something. 413 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 5: There were a couple of scenes where he was kind 414 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: of on me. I guess he was having health issues 415 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 5: and there was doctors coming to the set. His blood 416 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: pressure was super high. And then they called and said, 417 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 5: don't come to work, you know, or no. I came 418 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: to work and they said, just don't change. 419 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: Just stay in. 420 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 5: Your street clothes. Yeah, in your camper, you know, your 421 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 5: honeywagon or whatever. I played Catcher in Central Park with 422 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: some of the crew, was there all day and then 423 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 5: they said, go home. 424 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: We'll call you tomorrow. We're still delayed. We're delayed. And 425 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: then a few days later my agent called and said 426 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: it's over. Wow, he said, sit down. 427 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: But lots of drag. 428 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: But the position I was ruined. I thought I was ruined. 429 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, it positioned you. 430 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you got that. 431 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 5: But I also felt like I had failed, you know, 432 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 5: which I don't really think is true. 433 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: I Sally Field wrote me a really nice letter, yeah, 434 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: you know, saying hang in there and not. 435 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: I think it's the nature of the business. 436 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: It was, and I didn't know that though. For your 437 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 3: first job to dis very few movies to integrate. 438 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: Two weeks in, I think it could kill the spirit. 439 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 5: I was, I think, mate looking back on it, and 440 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 5: I became depressed. I spent the summer in New York 441 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 5: basically lying around my parents' house and uh, whining and 442 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 5: just being quiet. 443 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: I kind of yeah, I bet, I mean here you. 444 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 3: Are in yeah. 445 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: And now I'm auditioning for a radio spot about Bubble 446 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 5: Young literally and not getting it right, you know, or 447 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 5: a summerstock small part, and they're and they're not letting 448 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 5: me finish the auditionary. Like I've gone from having my 449 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 5: Academy Award speech working on that in the tub at 450 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 5: night to uh. 451 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: You know, bubble Yum's now super young. 452 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 5: There's never been a YOUM like this, And they're like, no, 453 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 5: you're not good enough. 454 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: You're not good enough for that. So the career was over, 455 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: I thought, wrapped up, done, and it. 456 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 5: Was always a looming if I really fail, I'll have 457 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 5: to go to college. And my grades were such that 458 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 5: colleges that I had been instructed to apply to work 459 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 5: you know names, I had never heard of her. 460 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 3: So I was maybe I didn't want to do that. 461 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: You've talked a lot about first Bueller, but you beat 462 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: out a significant amount of people for this role, very 463 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: famous people who have gone on she when did that pivot? 464 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: So like the bottle yum ends and then you're like. 465 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm back in the room. I'm not You're still 466 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: with the sage. 467 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: And she's still going away. You know, they were really 468 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: trying and I love FEFE. 469 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 5: What happened was I then read for a four hour 470 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 5: play about gay people in a Broadway theater, which seemed 471 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 5: you know. 472 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: You're talking about tor song. 473 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody knew was Torch song. 474 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 5: It was just this incredibly long you know, But I 475 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 5: read for it with this very strange you know man 476 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: that I met with Harvey Harvey Fire, yes, and but 477 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: he was really nice and actually when I read it, 478 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 5: I was like, this is so funny. 479 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 3: I loved it. 480 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 5: And then you know, the producer came out and said 481 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 5: we want to hire They said we want to hire you, 482 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 5: and my agent was like, well, I'm not sure your 483 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 5: first job should be you know this or so long 484 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: and outside of the norm, I guess, meaning don't play 485 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 5: a gay guy. Actually he was gay, you know, it 486 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 5: wasn't no but bot and I was like, I'm not 487 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 5: going to go back to play bubble. 488 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: Um. 489 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 5: No, I'm doing this part right, thank you very much. 490 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 5: And uh so, uh you know, the play opened, nobody 491 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 5: came at first, the roof leaked in. Water literally poured 492 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 5: into the apartment, our fake apartment. 493 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 3: It was over four hours long. I think I saw it. 494 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: I don't, but good, it was very good. Did it 495 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: get cut down eventually? Okay, because I don't remember. 496 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: This was the full version. I was also assistant stage manager. No. Yeah, 497 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: I was supposed to run the slide show for Act two. 498 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: Beauty of sitting backstage with your dad all those years, yes, 499 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: prap that piece. 500 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: I was fired from that because all I did was complain. 501 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 5: I was like, I can't get ready for the third 502 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 5: act if I'm making the slides go. 503 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: And they're like, okay, don't we'll do that part. 504 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 5: All all you have to do is replug the lightboard 505 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 5: between act two and three. And I was like, well 506 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 5: then I have to go out through the audience and 507 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: plug in my costume you know I want. They're like, already, 508 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 5: don't do anything. So I got myself out of that 509 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 5: fuck from the back. 510 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 511 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: One hundred and seven dollars a week that job but. 512 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 5: Then, you know, the times came to that show Yep 513 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 5: and melt Goos, Soewen was like, this is fantastic, and 514 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 5: suddenly it was packed. 515 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: Nobody could get in. 516 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 517 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: So now casting. 518 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 5: Directors and stuff, when I go to audition, I say 519 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 5: you want to see me, I'm in, and they're. 520 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: Like, oh, I hear that play is great, can you 521 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: get me in? 522 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: Right? 523 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 5: So now it's a very different perspective. When you're at 524 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: a meeting and the director says, can I get a ticket? 525 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 5: Or I just saw you Tuesday, You're in a whole 526 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 5: different league. 527 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 6: You know. 528 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 5: So that was it, and that led to you know, 529 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 5: probably Brighton Beach Memoirs on Broadway and War Games. You know, 530 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: I was auditioning for War Games at the same time 531 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 5: as Brighton Beach Memoirs. Basically got those two parts at 532 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 5: the same time, doing Torch Song at Night and auditioning 533 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 5: for and I got cast. 534 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 3: In a lead of a movie and a lead of 535 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: a Broadway but I got cast in Brighton Beach. 536 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 5: And while I'm auditioning for Brighton Beach, They're like, by 537 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 5: the way, we're doing a movie this summer. Neil Simon 538 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 5: Max Dugan returns with Marsha Mason and and they say, 539 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: you read these scenes out loud. 540 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: This is at the audition for Brighton Beach. 541 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 5: So I read those scenes with the director sitting next 542 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 5: to him, Urba Ross, and I left there and they're like, okay, both, 543 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 5: do we want you to do the movie? And so 544 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 5: suddenly I had a leading the Broadably Show and then 545 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 5: my first movie, which I was so I didn't have 546 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 5: any feelings about until I called with this point twenty 547 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 5: nineteen nineteen. 548 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: I called my dad, who is. 549 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 5: By the way, dying of cancer, just found out and 550 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: he goes crazy with excitement. And that was when I 551 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: was like, oh, this is kind of a big deal, 552 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 5: you know, and does not happen. Yeah, it really doesn't happen. 553 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: But when you're that age, it's sort of like, you know, 554 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 5: I don't know, and I think. I leave Torch Song 555 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 5: to go shoot. 556 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: Max stugen returns. 557 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 5: And while I'm shooting Max Stugan returns, Wargames is still 558 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 5: having callbacks. 559 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: That's what happens. 560 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: Okay. 561 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: So my dad says, they said they want me to 562 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 5: read it again for war Games, and I've read so 563 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 5: many times, and my dad said, ask them to see 564 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 5: if they could see some dailies from Max Dugan what 565 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 5: you're shooting now, which was really smart. And I told 566 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 5: Herbert Ross and he was like, oh, absolutely, i'll run. 567 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 5: I know just what to show them, and he showed 568 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: a good scene of me and Jason Lobard's for Marty Brest, 569 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: who was directing war Games. 570 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: And that's how I got that. 571 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 5: You know, I had a lot of help from people 572 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 5: like Herbert Ross or my dad or all these people 573 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: making very smart decisions for me. 574 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: You know, you need that, and even fifisk so hard 575 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: as soon as I got. 576 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: Up, did you when did you drop fefee? 577 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 5: Well that's what's so tragic about show business. As soon 578 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 5: as I got a few real jobs, I was like, 579 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: see a fief. Yeah, I have to get somebody with 580 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 5: a more serious name, you know. 581 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 3: And it wasn't fun. I mean it was awful. 582 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: No, they weren't quite equipped to you know. I was 583 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 5: trying to rush the war Games to decide. That's what 584 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 5: happened because I had another little play and I was like, 585 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 5: they have to decide or I'm not going to be 586 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 5: a ballimore, I said. And then Herbert Ross heard that, 587 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: the director, and he said, I'd like you to meet 588 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 5: somebody from William Morris. I think you should talk to 589 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: Arnold Steve will And I talked to him and he said, 590 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 5: you cannot tell MGM. They have to decide now because 591 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 5: you have an off brought. You have a summerstock play 592 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: coming up, so don't stop that. 593 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 2: Zip it. 594 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: You can't do that. 595 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 5: So I was like, okay, I was at a restaurant, 596 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 5: you know, on a phone booth, and he said, don't 597 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 5: do that, and he said, and I'll And I was like, 598 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 5: and you can represent me now for and he. 599 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: Said, yeah. 600 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 5: So I had to call. Did I call? I probably didn't. 601 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 5: I probably had somebody else call. 602 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: Why because you were shy. 603 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: I'm probably scared to call. 604 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 5: My agents would oh kill themselves to get me to 605 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 5: this point to say, now that I'm doing better, you're 606 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 5: on your own. 607 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: I know, you know it's going. I mean, it's the 608 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: curse of small agency. They build and then you go. 609 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: But that's the reality of life. 610 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 6: That's true. 611 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Table for two. 612 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: Matthew has been in countless amazing films, but Ferris Bueller's 613 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: Day Off holds a soft spot. 614 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: In many viewers' hearts. Being a huge fan of John 615 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: Hughes movies. 616 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: I wonder what was it like to get the role 617 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: and to work with them? So war Games comes first? 618 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: Is Bueller is just the ultimate game changer? Is that 619 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: when you realize, Okay. 620 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: Well I did it. You know, I guess so, but 621 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: not just I. Already I thought I was doing pretty well. 622 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 5: I had war Games and yeah, and it was being 623 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 5: sent a lot, and one of those was was Ferris Bueller. 624 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 5: And and everybody was like, John Hughes is the thank 625 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 5: you listeners at home on having another day. 626 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: We didn't have to sure that, No, it's fine. 627 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: He was called the Steven Spielberg of teen movies. 628 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 5: But I didn't immediately even I remember I was like, well, 629 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 5: I'm talking to the audience and just doing that in 630 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 5: the play. I keep talking to the audience. Maybe I 631 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: should I should look for something else. And afore mentioned 632 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 5: Arnold Seafall that time I flew to New York like 633 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 5: I hadn't even hung up the phone, discussing with him 634 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: whether I should do Forst. Fueler, and he was basically 635 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 5: standing behind me saying let's talk about it, and breaking 636 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 5: the fourth wall is yeah, I thought, I mean, you 637 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 5: do it like no other Well he was like, yeah, 638 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: you're doing it. 639 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: And even my mom, I remember, was like, oh, yeah, 640 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: you better do that. So I did it. 641 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 5: Not to say I didn't think it was great when 642 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 5: I read it. And you know, John was a very 643 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 5: he was rather chilly character when you would first meet. 644 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: Oh really, it wasn't like instantly, oh this is you know, neat. 645 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: But I grew to adore him. 646 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 5: Too, actually, and it was an amazing experience, you know. 647 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: And then The Freshman, and The Freshman's a really fun 648 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: movie and it's a really interesting plot line, and you 649 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: work with Brando, which sort of get him still in 650 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: the good Brando before he kind of lost the plot. Yeah, 651 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, I feel what was that as an actor? 652 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: What was that like to step onto a set and 653 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: know that you're working with the man who changed the acting. 654 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it was happening, you know. 655 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 5: When I first got sent the script and I was like, 656 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 5: wait a minute, I'm gonna we're gonna be all signed 657 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 5: up to do this movie. 658 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: And then he's gonna quit, right And they're like no, no, 659 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: And I. 660 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 5: Was like, you're pretending that he's doing the movie so 661 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 5: that you know, I'll play a team. One last time, 662 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 5: and that's how badly you want me, or pretending that 663 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 5: Marlon Brando was gonna be like no, we went and 664 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 5: met Marlon Brando on his island and he's doing it. 665 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 5: I swear to God, Bergman wonderful as a screenwriter and 666 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 5: director and okay, and I still never really thought he chose, 667 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 5: you know, not really. And then but I go to 668 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 5: Toronto and we rehearsed, me and Bruno Kirby, Penelope and Miller, 669 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 5: and uh, the day that Marlon is coming, I remember 670 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 5: Bruno Kirby sat in the lobby of the hotel like with. 671 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: A newspaper with with the holes cuff of the eyes. 672 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 5: I mean, he really did have like a book with 673 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 5: him because he wanted to see him walk into the right, 674 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: which I believe he did. 675 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: Finally he was like, yeah, he's here. We saw him. 676 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 3: He walked in. 677 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 5: And then the next day's rehearsal and we're all rehearsing, 678 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 5: and now Marlon is a little bit late, okay, So 679 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 5: I was like, ah, literally it it's a little longer, 680 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 5: and I'm like, right now, it happens now, Mark. 681 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: It turns out to be back in Tahiti. 682 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: He's back on the Island. 683 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so, but sure enough, maybe an hour or whatever 684 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 5: it is. He and uh and and we all go 685 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 5: to the you know, the apartment door and open it, 686 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 5: and Marlon Brando is on his hands and knees because 687 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 5: he's apologizing for being late. 688 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: You're kidding, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you know, whatever happened. 689 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 5: And so he was on his knees, I think, like 690 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 5: in a praying thing, you know, jokingly apologizing. And my 691 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 5: memory is he had a sort of a cowboy hat on, 692 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: somewhat feminine sunglasses, and a valure sweatsuit of some kind. 693 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: I've never been sure if that's really what I saw. 694 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: But that's my Stanley. 695 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: He did not look like Stanley Kulowski. 696 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 5: But and then he got up and you know, hugged 697 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 5: everybody and sat down, and we all rehearsed together at 698 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 5: the at the dining table, told a few stories. He 699 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 5: didn't really want to rehearse very much. He said, I 700 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 5: don't really liked hers very much. And he's sure enough. 701 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 5: There he was, and he was very friendly to me 702 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 5: and particularly to Bruno Kirby. He took a shine to 703 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 5: Bruno Kirber really and he was hard on production. Okay, 704 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 5: you know, he's somebody who always thought they were out 705 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 5: to get him and they needed to be struck down, 706 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, so he was hard for people who 707 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 5: had to schedule him or pay years of yeah something. Yeah, 708 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 5: and that's where his difficultness. It wasn't for others. If 709 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 5: you're acting with him, I don't they're playing. Very few 710 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 5: actors who would have said, I don't know, but who 711 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 5: would say Marlon was difficult or I didn't like working 712 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 5: with him. I think people who would say he was 713 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 5: difficult are people who are in a position of saying, 714 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 5: you have to be here an extra two hours or 715 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 5: we're going to lose this location. 716 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: Did you walk away from that experience not only in disbelief, 717 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: but like well with film, get like a added something 718 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: new to your craft, your art by working with him. 719 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: I hope it did. I wanted it to. 720 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 5: I mean I knew that it was a huge opportunity 721 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: to watch him work up close. 722 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: You know. 723 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 5: I mean, he's basically my favorite actor ever, so every 724 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 5: moment I had with him was precious and heightened. 725 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: You almost have to get over that a little bit 726 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 3: so that you. 727 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 5: Can right, you know, be a live in the scene 728 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 5: and not just real a crazy person staring at him, 729 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 5: you know, not speaking like actually yeah, yeah. It had 730 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 5: a surreal feeling. I bet it was very hard to 731 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 5: be like just doing a scene. 732 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 3: But then again, he's so good and was so entertaining 733 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: to watch that. 734 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 5: It was really funny and made me want to, you know, 735 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 5: get the ball back in some way. 736 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: So I adored working with him. 737 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 5: It was like it was it was like hitting a 738 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 5: ball back and forth with the you know, agacy or 739 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 5: something or you know, it just was like top level. 740 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 3: This is just great. 741 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: Matthew has shared so many great stories with us today, 742 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: and if he ever wrote a book, I'm sure it 743 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: would be as fascinating as our launch. But would he 744 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: ever consider putting his life on the page after living 745 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: so much. 746 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: Of it on the screen. 747 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: So there's some fun questions as we come to her close, 748 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: And I really hope everyone enjoyed this because I was 749 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: so forward. 750 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: Did you, Matthew? 751 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 3: I think you're an incredibly good interviewer. 752 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. 753 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: Would you ever write a book about your life or memoir, 754 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, kind of focusing it on it's so your 755 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: your life is very fascinating. 756 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: I have thought about it a little bit. 757 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 5: I mean once in a while people bring it up, 758 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 5: or but maybe if I could do, if I had 759 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 5: some good. 760 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: Idea about it. 761 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 5: I I don't just want to, like, I don't want 762 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 5: to betray people, you know what I mean. 763 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: It's hard. 764 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 5: I don't want to What does Marlon Brando want me 765 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 5: to say about I'm not that concerned everything's written about him. 766 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 5: But but I get it. There's like that sensitivity. 767 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: People are alive of being. 768 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, does a title come to mind? 769 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 3: Oh? 770 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 5: I used to have a few titles, Okay, just a 771 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 5: joke with my friends. The first one was called they 772 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 5: Called Me Pal, and it's just a picture of me 773 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 5: with pictures of different movie stars. Who have you know 774 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 5: that you Marlon Brando or Ta Bards or Morgan Freemen. 775 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: They called me Pal. What was the title? 776 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 5: The second installment was called Preserving the Island, which was 777 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 5: about hair loss and trying to keep the hair that's 778 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 5: in the middle in the front of your head connected 779 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 5: to the back of your head. 780 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: So those are the mill. 781 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: Years, Okay, those are familiars. 782 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 5: And the final was called Maybe I'm a Monster, and 783 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 5: it was just this is something me and Kenny Lonergan 784 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 5: came up. But it was a you know, a trilogy 785 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 5: about my life, and the third book, I was just 786 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 5: sort of in a you know, pants and a sweater 787 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 5: looking off into a sunset. 788 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 3: You know, maybe I'm a monster. Maybe maybe I did 789 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 3: a lot of bad things. And uh so those are 790 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 3: the three books. 791 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: Zach cracks me up. Do you have when you sit down? 792 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: Is there like a decade of music that you just 793 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: sink into. 794 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: I always kind of. 795 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: Look at you and I feel like the sort of jazz, 796 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: sort of yeah, old. 797 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: School, I know, what do you what kind of music 798 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: does mb You. 799 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 5: Realize how predictable you are now the computers because they're like, oh, 800 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 5: you're just that type. We know exactly what you want. 801 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 5: You know, you thought you're so unique, Like nothing at 802 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 5: all is unique about you. 803 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 3: You know everything I like. 804 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 2: Right, everything? Yeah, they know it before you know it. 805 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 2: Now you think it and it shows up on your phone. 806 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 3: Know something. I haven't even said it out loud. 807 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: No, you know it scares the hell out of mean. 808 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like, you know, jazz. 809 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I like very eclectic music, but I definitely 810 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 5: like from the time I was in my teens or twenties, 811 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 5: I started liking old you know, Louis Armstrong and I 812 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 5: like twenties, thirties, forties. 813 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 3: I love that kind of music I like. And then 814 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: I like, you know Marvin. 815 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 5: Gay or that Yeah, Ara, you know, and then I 816 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 5: kind of dropped out after that. 817 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: Ask me too. Then it's like enough, I don't even know. 818 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 5: I like but when when the kids play the tunes 819 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 5: for me, I like them, but I don't really know 820 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 5: what any of it is. 821 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: Well, Matthew Brodock, I have to say this, having lunch 822 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: with you with a microphone or without, and dinner is 823 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: a pure joy for me. Your family, I think, is incredible. 824 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: I love Sarah Jessica Is. I can't say enough about 825 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: the family you created. Your children are lovely. You're well 826 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: raised or polite and yours too. Thank you for joining 827 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: me on Table for two. Thank you absolutely, door you 828 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: and love you. 829 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 3: I love you too. Yeah. 830 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 2: Thanks everyone, have a great day, enjoy the rest of 831 00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: your day. 832 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: Great day. 833 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: Table for two with Bruce Bozi is produced by iHeart 834 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: Radio seven three seven Park and Airmail. Our executive producers 835 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: are Bruce Bosi and Nathan King. Table for two is 836 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: researched and written by Bridget arsenalt. 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