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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health. Well,

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Speaker 1: how the heck are you here on a Friday? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is the show

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Speaker 1: riding into Father's Day weekend. Here we go, let's go, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Did you make any requests if you were prompted for

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Speaker 1: an answer as to what you might need for Father's Day?

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Speaker 2: Nobody asked nobody, Oh dear, you're going in blind well

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Speaker 2: this weekend. The ones that don't have kids, who might

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Speaker 2: you know, still think about me as being a dad.

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Speaker 2: They don't live here, and they got yeah. The two

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Speaker 2: that live here, they are dads, so they're like up

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Speaker 2: to their eyeballs, Yes, they're up to their eyeballs in

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Speaker 2: busy and there are kids to balls in. You know.

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Speaker 2: I get it, trying to act like a dad. So

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Speaker 2: I get it, you know, trying to act like a dad.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I I am admittedly not an easy

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Speaker 1: person to shop for. I don't realize I don't really

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Speaker 1: ask for anything. I don't really communicate anything that I

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Speaker 1: may or may not need. Often the things I need

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Speaker 1: are practical things like dress socks, you know, because they like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know I'm ready to go through the

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Speaker 1: heel on a few pair of my dress socks. I

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Speaker 1: could use some new. Nobody wants to get anybody dress socks.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants, you know what I mean, So I end

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Speaker 1: up annoying people.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean for me, I'm at that stage

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Speaker 2: in life where if I need something, just go get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I got it. Don't worry about me.

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Speaker 2: I got it. I'm you know, yeah, you know, I like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I just I'm gonna go out. I'm I'll

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Speaker 2: buy a box of cigars or or whatever whatever. You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it takes a long time to craft a

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Speaker 2: life where you get to be a dad and it's

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Speaker 2: hard to buy stuff for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's and that's probably a good place to be, right,

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Speaker 1: It's not a bad place to be. I've never wanted

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Speaker 1: for a lot, so I got plenty and that's fine

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Speaker 1: by me. So yeah, we'll all just sit around and

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Speaker 1: have people cook for us and you'll be watching the

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Speaker 1: US Open. Undoubtedly on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: That would be my plan. But I think it's a

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Speaker 2: coin flip as.

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Speaker 1: To whether I see that might get hijacked.

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Speaker 2: I think I got fifty to fifty chance of seeing

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Speaker 2: a single shot.

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Speaker 1: Because everybody's gonna be over the house.

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Speaker 2: I got a birthday. I got a birthday part tonight

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Speaker 2: for the youngest grandchild.

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Speaker 1: That's tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's tonight, which her birthday is like eight weeks like

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Speaker 2: gone or for I think it's eight weeks behind us.

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Speaker 2: But they're so busy they can't have this first time

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Speaker 2: they can take a breath. Wow, right, well, you don't

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Speaker 2: think about it. She got three older siblings, all seven

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Speaker 2: years and under, and they all they're like soccer and

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Speaker 2: dance and run summer camp.

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Speaker 1: I remember that day.

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Speaker 2: I mean, oh my gosh. So you know, so tonight

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have the the second birthday, two year old

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Speaker 2: birthday party, which is you know actually, I mean just

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Speaker 2: let's just have that. We should have this little poll question.

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Speaker 2: Is it better to have like a nondescriptan like me,

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Speaker 2: like a sixty first birthday, or to attend your two

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Speaker 2: year old granddaughter's birthday. It's it's one or the other. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which is better? That's my point for me. The two

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Speaker 2: year old's way better. Yeah, my sixty first birtha even

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Speaker 2: if it was a part, I mean, what do you do?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's sixty one. It's like, it's not like

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Speaker 2: it's like, wow, you know, kind of a mile soon

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Speaker 2: sixty one? The two year old granddaughter's way better birthday,

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Speaker 2: is it not? Well? Yeah, I mean even the even

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Speaker 2: the food's bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she probably won't remember a whole lot from it.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Who cares about everybody else?

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Speaker 1: Cares about my granddaughter? Everybodys I'll talk about right, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about me. My granddaughter doesn't care sugar. As far

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Speaker 1: as the eye can see her food.

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Speaker 2: The food at her second birthday part is going to

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Speaker 2: be way better than my sixty first birthday. Well, there

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Speaker 2: you go, I think because you answered your own question

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Speaker 2: since since I yeah, I brought it up because I'm

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Speaker 2: I was a little shocked by when I told myself

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Speaker 2: a month ago. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, Steve Me, along with several of our fellow bills PS, Sabers, Bandits,

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Speaker 1: and ad Pro people, ran in the Corporate Challenge down

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Speaker 1: at Delaware Park yesterday. George and our Control Room was

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Speaker 1: one of the participants. As well as I was thankful

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Speaker 1: he brought running shoes. This year. He was far better

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Speaker 1: I traffic down there. They try to mitigate it as

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Speaker 1: best they can. They actually have parking at buff State

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Speaker 1: and then they have satellite bus service to get you

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Speaker 1: over there. I did not go that route. I got

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Speaker 1: there super early and then it starts drizzling, and I'm

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Speaker 1: So it's about half an hour before racetime and it

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Speaker 1: starts drizzling, and it was windy, cloudy, it was it

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Speaker 1: was chilly. You know, we're all in shorts and t

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Speaker 1: shirts out there. Weather holds off. But for the first

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Speaker 1: time ever at the Corporate Challenged, they did a stagger start.

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Speaker 1: So they say people, well, yeah, there's a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know what the number was, but

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Speaker 1: it's usually around eighteen to twenty thousand people. I think

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Speaker 1: it's that many, right, It's it's a ton bulp. I

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Speaker 1: may be completely off, I don't know, but anyway, they

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Speaker 1: assign you a BIB number with a color code based

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Speaker 1: be assigned a green color. Faster runners get a red

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Speaker 1: bib and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera bib. So

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Speaker 1: then they be I'm pretty sure, so then that well

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Speaker 2: They mine would have a little red cross on metavacular

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Speaker 2: the metavac bib. They have his uh, they have.

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Speaker 1: His timekeeper assigned strictly to the ambulance or.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a bib, it would be a black armband.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So anyway, so they and then they

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Speaker 1: they herd you into the those areas, so you're with

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Speaker 1: same pace as everybody in your group. It makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But previous years, you know, they stack the faster runners

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Speaker 2: Okay, so many.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not I'm not knocking it because it worked

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Speaker 1: great because there was so much more space than you

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Speaker 1: worked great. I'm really appreciative that they chose to do

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Speaker 1: it that way. How many, But here was the thing like, mentally,

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Speaker 1: it's like you on a kickoff. You're ready to go,

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Speaker 1: and the ref says, hold on, we got to wait

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Speaker 2: Just like, you know what I mean. I know exactly

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Speaker 2: what you mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not trying to compare the corporate challenge to

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Speaker 1: an NFL kicking it, but I'm trying to put it

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Speaker 1: in your perspective.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it. I got a story for another time about

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Speaker 2: getting held up. But you're right. The corporate challenge in

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Speaker 2: Buffalo is like big. It's big big. I was years ago.

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Speaker 2: I got a chance to start it. You know, oh

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Speaker 2: cool and yeah. I was flabbergasted at how many people

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Speaker 2: were there. Every I mean everybody was there. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: There's thousands and thousand people are Delaware Park.

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Speaker 1: So anybody that is run, I couldn't believe it. It's

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. W

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Speaker 2: So you got these guys that go out there and

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Speaker 2: they can run, they can run there. We had four

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Speaker 2: thirty miles or you know, like that, right, So I'm

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Speaker 2: my question is if there's that many people running, they

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Speaker 1: Line, because I don't think there were that many there

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Speaker 1: were I think there were only four groups. It was red, green, blue,

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Speaker 1: Because there were a lot there were women there pushing radio.

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Speaker 1: There are women there running pushings. Yeah, there were women

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Speaker 1: there running and pushing their strollers with their kids in them,

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Speaker 1: Like do that for three and a half miles. That

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Speaker 2: I'll run it with you, but you push me in

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Speaker 1: Just hey, dude, I am not pushing you. I had

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Speaker 2: Up here here, Just be me in a case a beer.

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Speaker 1: Anybody that has run that race though, on that course

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Speaker 1: knows that mile three isill awful, is uphill because you're

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Speaker 1: it's you don't realize when you drive in your car

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Speaker 1: pushing it, and then you get to that last mile,

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Speaker 1: it breaks your heart. Oh my god, it's like a

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Speaker 1: slap in the face. Yeah, it's just hey, nice job

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Speaker 1: so far. How about them apples?

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Speaker 2: And you're just like, I'll tell you this though, when

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Speaker 2: we when we ran the Turkey. When you run the

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Speaker 2: Turkey Trot a Thanksgiving, you come up, it's it's rough.

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Speaker 2: And then when you get up there in Delaware right

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Speaker 2: around word though, I think like the Saturn Club where

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Speaker 2: that is on Delaware, you turn down and it's all

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Speaker 2: downhill to downtown because it's all downhill to the to

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Speaker 2: the and that's pretty cool that that's nice then, but

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Speaker 2: I get you. You get that you get on those

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Speaker 2: road races and you turn the corner and all say,

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Speaker 2: it's like.

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Speaker 1: It was. The last mile and a half was not fun.

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Speaker 1: But we finished. We all survived, had some good dinner after.

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Speaker 2: Many of our co workers. I mean, what kind of

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Speaker 2: showing did the Bills organization have down there?

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Speaker 1: I want to say we had about well there, I

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Speaker 1: think they were about thirty people total, and I would

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Speaker 1: say for Bills people, we had about eight to ten,

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Speaker 1: so right around a third of the group.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we did all right. I would like when

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Speaker 2: we had twenty people who were there that didn't run.

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Speaker 1: No, no, thirty people were there to run. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: But as you know, we have a big umbrella. You know,

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Speaker 1: That is. I will say that is a commitment among commitments.

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Speaker 1: Where's access to the players that you don't typically have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the first training camp practice will be Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's correct. Ye, yeah, says it right here. All

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Speaker 2: It's Friday, August fourth, five thirty pm at high Mark.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it would just be another you could

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Speaker 1: formally from the Patriots, as it appears, Hopkins is fine

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Speaker 1: to take his time in making a decision to see

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Speaker 1: if somehow, some way more money comes out of the

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Speaker 1: woodwork for him to secure. I would say more and more.

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Speaker 1: It's almost a guarantee that he's going to be playing

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Speaker 1: on a one year deal because number one, he's probably

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Speaker 1: not gonna ultimately get the money he is seeking. That's

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Speaker 1: number one. So number two, try to hit it out

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Speaker 1: of the park this year wherever you sign, so you

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Speaker 1: can get more money in free agency next year. That

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Speaker 1: would seem to be the play here this late in

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Speaker 1: the game. But where does he end up? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess he's hoping some other team turns up as

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Speaker 1: a possible suitor for his services. And you know, then

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Speaker 1: you can pit one team against the other. Right now,

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Speaker 1: it's just Tennessee and New England and with whom he's visited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they people were saying, yeah, I went very well

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Speaker 2: in Tennessee when he visited. But the simple fact of

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Speaker 2: the matters he left town and they put him in coach,

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Speaker 2: you know, so they ceased trying to impress him. I

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Speaker 2: guess was the idea, so I and you know he didn't.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't. He's been known not to like to go

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Speaker 2: hard at practice, right, and that kind of thing. So

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Speaker 2: he may be just saying, listen, I want to wait

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Speaker 2: till the end of the training camp.

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Speaker 1: Well, and there is there are reports out of New

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Speaker 1: England that internally with the Patriots organization, there is some

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Speaker 1: concern that he is not a culture fit because of

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Speaker 1: his reputation of not practicing and not taking care of

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Speaker 1: himself enough. You know, we hear what Belichick say after

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Speaker 1: their last Super Bowl, no days off, no days off. Well,

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Speaker 1: this guy takes days off and maybe takes routes off

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Speaker 1: too in games. For all we know, we don't watch

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Speaker 1: the film as closely as coaches do, so yeah, that

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Speaker 1: might not work in New England ultimately, but we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens there. It might not as he bides his time.

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Speaker 1: This is a subject that's been very quiet this offseason,

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Speaker 1: a contract extension for Justin Herbert. We know that the

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Speaker 1: Bengals are working on an extension for Joe Burrow, who

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Speaker 1: astonishingly is set to make five and a half million

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Speaker 1: on his rookie contract this year. What's interesting is their

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Speaker 1: Mum's been the word out in LA on a new

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Speaker 1: deal for Herbert, who was in the same draft class

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Speaker 1: as Borrow as we know, and can be signed to

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Speaker 1: a multi year blockbuster contract. Now that he's three years

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Speaker 1: removed from his rookie deal and he's been participating all

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Speaker 1: through the spring OTAs mandatory mini camp, there are ongoing

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Speaker 1: contract negotiations. But at the end of mini camp, Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert was asked, will you rule out the possibility of

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Speaker 1: holding in? That's the new way that players protest their

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Speaker 1: contract situation. They report to training camp, but they don't practice,

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Speaker 1: so they're there so they don't get fined because the

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Speaker 1: fines are pretty exorbitant now, and he said the role

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback is to be out there for his

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Speaker 1: team and do everything he can to put that team

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Speaker 1: in position to win, but also said regarding holding in,

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. So there is the possibility that

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Speaker 1: he goes to camp and is not doing much on

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Speaker 1: the field the first few days unless they get a

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Speaker 1: contract extension in place prior to Chargers training camp, and

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Speaker 1: the same could potentially hold true for the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Joe, Joe Burrow is going into the

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Speaker 2: last year of his deal. Joe Burrow. Yeah, he's going

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Speaker 2: into the last year of his deal for five point

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Speaker 2: five million, and I know fun.

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Speaker 1: Today they did pick up the fifty year option right

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Speaker 1: on him, and they did it with Herbert too.

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Speaker 2: Well, this was the last year of that option, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: No, they're the twenty twenty draft class, so that's twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty. This is year four,

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Speaker 1: so you pick up the fifty year option. They still

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Speaker 1: have him under contract for next year. I think both teams.

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Speaker 2: Did that, so they're both getting there. They're going as

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Speaker 2: soon as they can get the extension done, they're going

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Speaker 2: to try and which is what was done with Josh

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Speaker 2: So and I. That's all well and good. Those guys,

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Speaker 2: to me, in the current market and landscape, hold the cards.

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Speaker 2: If they can hang out for eighteen months, not even

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Speaker 2: two seasons to two seasons, they'll start getting franchise tagged

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Speaker 2: and all of that is. And now then if those

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Speaker 2: guys hit the market at the same time the same

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Speaker 2: year and not get free, you can't they Yeah right.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking one of those two guys is going

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Speaker 1: to make fifty million a year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be Joe Burrow too.

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Speaker 1: I would think Burrow makes fifty average annual value.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that the only reason I hesitate to say,

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Speaker 2: of course, is because it's the Cincinnati Bengals. Okay, that's

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Speaker 2: that to me is an issue and it always has been.

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Speaker 2: They've been notoriously frugal, that is true, and although they've

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Speaker 2: been better in recent years, sure, but you know, business.

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Speaker 1: But the rubber is now meeting the road. This is

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Speaker 1: some of the similar development of the roster that we

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Speaker 1: saw here. In Buffalo Cincinnati, and the Chargers are a

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Speaker 1: couple of years behind in their build, much like the

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Speaker 1: Bills are about a year or two behind the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: in their build. And these are the different decisions that

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Speaker 1: come down the pike. Now it's time to pay your

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. At the end of this season, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be time for the Bengals to decide on what they're

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Speaker 1: doing with T. Higgins. You can't pay T Higgins and

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Speaker 1: then a year later pay Jamar Chase. Yeah, you gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to That's right. You can't fit them both,

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Speaker 1: so you got to pick one or the other. It's

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Speaker 1: so T Higgins is probably out the door after this year.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna fix franchise them and playing one more,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Fit them all under your salary cap, you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to get started. You have to get signed one, then

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Speaker 2: make the other wait, and then get them staggered so

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Speaker 2: that you can fit the bolt the signing bonus of one,

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Speaker 2: and you get over that, you get a signing bonus

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Speaker 2: for the other the next year, and then the next year.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got to stagger those contracts. You can't.

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Speaker 2: They're just not gonna be able to make it work

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Speaker 2: that way if they don't, or, like you said, one

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Speaker 2: of them is going to be shipped out.

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Speaker 1: This is when the hard decisions come, when you have

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Speaker 1: to sign that quarterback to the Monster second contract right

552
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Speaker 1: gets harder to keep your roster intact. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: Leading us off from North of the Border Walter in Toronto,

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Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Walter?

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, I've been following the whole Digs thing with

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Speaker 3: quite the fascination, and there's been so many conflicting stories

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Speaker 3: and information, but I'll I can't rely on one thing,

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Speaker 3: and that is what I saw in the field, you know,

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Speaker 3: in the last game against Cincy. I was in the

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Speaker 3: stands for that one. And then I'm thinking back to

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Speaker 3: that game, in that snow game that they played in

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Speaker 3: Detroit against Cleveland, and just the way Diggs was acting

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Speaker 3: and kind of showing up either as quarterback or as

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Speaker 3: the play calling and and I don't know if that

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering what you guys think in terms of how

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Speaker 3: does that bode for the future. I know, I know

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Speaker 3: that kind of that kind of situation and in competitive

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Speaker 3: sports isn't always good. I mean, do you feel the

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Speaker 3: team's going to be walking on eight shells all year

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Speaker 3: because of this, or do you truly think they're going

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Speaker 3: to be able to put it behind them?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Thanks Walter for the call.

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Speaker 2: Walter. I think they're really going to be able to

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Speaker 2: put it behind him. I think there's nothing to me

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Speaker 2: about any of this that I've heard or seen or

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Speaker 2: saw that makes this makes me think this is going

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Speaker 2: to be an issue going forward. And certainly they want

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Speaker 2: to make it work with step because they they treat

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Speaker 2: him like family. I mean, he's he's a close friend.

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Speaker 1: Josh plays it out.

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Speaker 2: And you know they they're gonna try and make it

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Speaker 2: work with him, and I'm gonna say, try and make

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Speaker 2: it it will work with him. I think this incident

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Speaker 2: we had, if you call it that, or with this

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Speaker 2: conversation that we've been told happened between Steph and whoever,

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Speaker 2: I think they stem from his frustration and the team

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Speaker 2: is not getting to where they want to be. Perhaps

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Speaker 2: he has some serious ideas about why. If he does,

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Speaker 2: you can bet Josh knows, Seohan McDermott knows, Brandon Bean knows,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of teammates know exactly the way Steph feels.

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Speaker 2: There's no reason to be shy, so I don't think

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Speaker 2: they're gonna walk and believe me, nobody's walking on eggshells

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Speaker 2: around staph in this building. They I mean, they'll treat

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Speaker 2: him with love and respect, but if there's hard truth

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Speaker 2: to be told, they will not hesitate to let him know.

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Speaker 1: The leadership structure here is strong enough. I think people

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Speaker 1: feel on the outside like Diggs does whatever he wants

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Speaker 1: and nobody checks him. And I think that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a miscon that's a misconception because there are veterans in

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Speaker 1: this locker room that will check him when they think

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Speaker 1: he's out of line. So to think there are in

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Speaker 1: checks and balances here when someone brings issues to the table,

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Speaker 1: whether they're deemed legitimate or not, I think would be

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Speaker 1: a misconception because they do hold each other in check.

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Speaker 1: They hold each other accountable. Now, I don't think you

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Speaker 1: have to hold Diggs accountable in the responsibilities he has

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Speaker 1: as a player and as a captain. But if he

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Speaker 1: comes to the table with something and they think he's

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Speaker 1: out of line, they're gonna tell him he's out of line,

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Speaker 1: or they don't hesitate.

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Speaker 2: They'll explain it to him and they'll explain why. Here's

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Speaker 2: the thing. And I said, it yesterday. I've been saying it,

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Speaker 2: and I'll say it again for those of yours is

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Speaker 2: catching it. The Bill's culture that we hear so much about,

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Speaker 2: that is that they're so proud of that makes guys

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Speaker 2: want to come in here and play for this team.

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Speaker 2: It's not You don't build a culture to prevent things

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Speaker 2: like this from happening. Your culture helps you handle stuff

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Speaker 2: like this. This this kind of stuff grow from it.

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Speaker 2: This kind of stuff happens on most teams, particularly teams

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Speaker 2: that are growing, where you got somebody who wants to

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Speaker 2: take another step and it's taken longer than they think

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Speaker 2: it should, or it's coming in a different way, or

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Speaker 2: they're not seeing it fast enough. Whatever. The Bill's culture

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Speaker 2: that we've heard so much about, and the players take

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Speaker 2: so much pride in, and free agents want to be

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Speaker 2: such a part of they want to be a big

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Speaker 2: part of it. That culture is built to handle things

650
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: like this, not prevent them. Because you got fifty, you

651
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: got ninety guys on the roster. You don't think you

652
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: think this is the only issue that they're dealing with.

653
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Speaker 2: You think this is the only personal thing, This is

654
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 2: the only one A lot of people care about it's

655
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Speaker 2: the only one that maybe held one star player out

656
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Speaker 2: of one practice. But this is, you know, your culture

657
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: is built to handle stuff like this and to grow

658
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: from it, and that's what the Bills are doing. So no,

659
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Speaker 2: I don't think this is an issue at all going forward. Uh.

660
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: And because the culture is built to handle stuff like

661
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: this and grow from it, not let it fester, not

662
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: let it boil over later on, not let it come

663
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: back and say I told you that kind of thing.

664
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Speaker 2: This is they're gonna get this out and they're gonna

665
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: they're dealing with it. They're gonna grow from it. That's

666
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: what the culture is here, and that's why it's such

667
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: you know, a great place to work. It's because it

668
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: handles stuff like this, not because it prevents it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones. Go to Mark in Lockport.

670
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Speaker 1: What do you got for us?

671
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Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 1: Here on One Bill's Life.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Stephen, Chris. How are you guys this afternoon?

674
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fine, We're doing well.

675
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 5: Good good.

676
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 4: I think, uh, you know, I don't think the big

677
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: situation was necessarily something that he was mad at. I

678
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: think it might have been being in McDermott. I think

679
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: after the CINCI game being in, McDermott decided they had

680
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: to change his behavior and acting out the way he does,

681
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: and they talked about when's the best time to do that,

682
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 4: and thought first day of mini camp. So they pulled

683
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 4: him in probably showed him videos of his actions and

684
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: said turned off the video machine and said, hey, this

685
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: is not Buffalo, this is not our team. You can't

686
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 4: do this anymore. We're not gonna We're not going to

687
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 4: tolerate it. So then they sent him home and said, look,

688
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: this is going to be strictly private. We don't want

689
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: to embarrass you. But if you come to practice tomorrow

690
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: and we expect you to, uh, you are committing to

691
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: not acting like this anymore. So then McDermott goes in

692
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: front of the press and says he's very concerned. What

693
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 4: was he concerned about. He was concerned on whether Diggs

694
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Speaker 4: would show up the next day or not. A pretty

695
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 4: nerve wracking situation, but had to be addressed. Then when

696
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: Diggs showed up, situation resolves. I think Diggs showed up

697
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: on Tuesday with the intent to practice and that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe, I don't know. That's a lot of speculation stuff.

699
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: We haven't heard any inkling of that. I'm not that

700
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: we would hear it. They are not calling us or

701
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: telling us what's going on behind the scenes. But I

702
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: that's that's a lot of supposition, mark at a lot

703
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on. Maybe it could be, but man,

704
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: oh man, I haven't. Yeah, you're the first guy that

705
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: I've heard say that. So not that you don't have

706
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Speaker 2: any credibility. I just don't know that.

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Speaker 1: That's all right and what happened. You're making big assumptions there,

708
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: and I think that's dangerous. In an atmosphere where two

709
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: of his teammates called the issue minor in nature, I mean,

710
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: Don Miller said it's not that serious. Josh Allen said

711
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Speaker 1: it was going to be a blip on the radar.

712
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Speaker 1: So take that for what it's worth from people who

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Speaker 1: are in the know. Eight oh threeh five point fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number

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Speaker 1: to get on board if you have a question here

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00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: on Obel Friday fan mail bag, any question that you

717
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: have on the bills, the NFL at large fire away,

718
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: we're having to take him. We do want to not

719
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Speaker 1: neglect the tweets sheet portion of this program people that

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00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: can only submit questions on Twitter because they don't have

721
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Speaker 1: time to call. We understand, we got working folks out there,

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Speaker 1: So we go to the mailbag online and Brian says

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Speaker 1: or asks, do we know if the new stadium will

724
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Speaker 1: be artificial turf or natural grass? It will be natural grass, Brian.

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00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: And for those that are worried about the field looking

726
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Speaker 1: crumbing in the wintertime when the growing season is over,

727
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Speaker 1: fear not. There will be heated coils underneath the field

728
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Speaker 1: to keep the ground from freezing and artificially extending the

729
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Speaker 1: growing season. This is a common practice in Europe in

730
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Speaker 1: all of the soccer stadiums for years they have had

731
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Speaker 1: heated coils underneath the grass surface. It keeps the ground

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Speaker 1: from freezing. Because the professional soccer season in Europe runs

733
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Speaker 1: from all August through May, so they have to get

734
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Speaker 1: all the way through the winner with those grass fields.

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Speaker 1: They do that by putting a heated coil system under

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Speaker 1: the field, and that is the plan for new high

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Speaker 1: Mark Stadium. So it will be grass. It will be

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Speaker 1: heated from underneath to keep the grass in pristine conditioned

739
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Speaker 1: throughout the season. Pretty cool, yeah, and I like that

740
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Speaker 1: they're playing on grass. I think it's a safer surface,

741
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Speaker 1: fewer injuries, right, So I'm all for it. I'm actually

742
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Speaker 1: glad to hear that they're going to be going with

743
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Speaker 1: natural grass. It's pretty exciting.

744
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be. It's not I'm going to say this

745
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: for the next three years. Probably you're going to love

746
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: the new stadium, I promise you, and you're going to

747
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: if you want to go, You're gonna be able to

748
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Speaker 2: afford it, I promise you.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones. We go to Chris

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Chris?

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Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going on with Chris and State?

754
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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, I'm getting really sick of this

757
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 6: whole stepin Diggs conversation. The guys a premier receiver in

758
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 6: the NFL, and he's frustrated. I mean, when Jim Kelly

759
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 6: was back in his prime, there's no social media or

760
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 6: anything like that. I'm sure andre Vie Thir mcconomas especially

761
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 6: had rice about what was going on the offense. Just

762
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 6: let Giggs do Diggs. I mean, he's gonna be fine.

763
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Speaker 6: He's I mean, he's out there working with the guys.

764
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Speaker 6: I'm so sick of everyone thinks that he wants to

765
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Speaker 6: leave Buffalo and so on and so on. It's like, no,

766
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 6: but he just wants the ball. He wants to win.

767
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 6: Like everyone needs to get off him, man, I mean,

768
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Speaker 6: it's not that big of a deal. The guy's a player,

769
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Speaker 6: he's a baller, Like freaking Allen knows it. I'm just

770
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Speaker 6: so sick of everyone does not to think, Oh, he's

771
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 6: got it, he's a dbut he wants to leave.

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Speaker 4: No, he just wants the ball.

773
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Speaker 5: He wants to win.

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Speaker 6: I mean, yes, his last three pretup games, he wasn't targeted.

775
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 6: He was totally fine. When Dave Davis went up, he

776
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 6: should have won the game thirteen seconds. What do you

777
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 6: want to do? Yeah, he was mad against Cincinnati. Just

778
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Speaker 6: let the guy go. I mean he's fine, Like ah,

779
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 6: it just it blows my mind that everyone is complaining

780
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 6: about this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I would agree with you, Chris,

782
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: most of that. Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 1: I get the frustration. I think what some may not

784
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: realize is the impetus for Diggs more often than not.

785
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend to know that this is

786
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: the impetus in this situation, but it was the impetus

787
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: in Minnesota it's been the impetus here in the past.

788
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same reason now.

789
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Speaker 1: The guy has a burning passion to win a championship.

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00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: It is his ultimate goal in his profession of choice,

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Speaker 1: and he wants to do everything in his power to

792
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Speaker 1: accomplish that.

793
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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 1: Probably a lot of this is rooted in that desire,

795
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Speaker 1: and he's making the necessary checks so he has peace

796
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: of mind to know that everybody else has that same

797
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: ultimate goal in mind. I don't know if they all

798
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: completely agree on getting there in the same way, but

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Speaker 1: that's probably some of the nature of the conversations that

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00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: were had, and I think once everything was explained to

801
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: all parties involved, I think they realized they had a

802
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: lot more in common than maybe they realized in terms

803
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: of pursuing that ultimate goal. And that's why, as you

804
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: heard Sean McDermott say, it's resolved and they're moving forward.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but John and

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00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: Buffalo will lead us off in the next segment as

807
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Speaker 1: we take more of your phone calls on the Friday

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Speaker 1: fan mail Bag. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live Here on a Friday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: with you as always, going right back to the Friday

812
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: fan mail and the phones where John and Buffalo is

813
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: waiting for us. What do you offer us? John?

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Speaker 5: Well, this whole day thing. I got a commend man.

815
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 5: I mean, he had a problem, he was frustrated with something.

816
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 5: Instead of sitting out and moaning about it and calling

817
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 5: people names, he did the right thing. After all, the

818
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: Buffalo bills, these guys go to work. It's a workplace.

819
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 5: You got a problem at your workplace, you go to

820
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 5: your supervisor, you go to human resources, and you hash

821
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: it out and everything is fine. These guys live in

822
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: a fishbowl. Social media and media just totally blew it

823
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 5: all out of proportions. I got to give the man

824
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Speaker 5: credit and I'll hang up and listen to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jay, Yep, thanks John.

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Speaker 2: I would agree with all of that.

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Speaker 1: That's you're right, nothing more to be said. Yeah, And

828
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Speaker 1: you know he handled it internally. It's not like there

829
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: was some run up on social I mean, look, cryptics

830
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Make whatever you want of that.

831
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Speaker 1: Whatever the real issue was, he hashed that out internally

832
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Speaker 1: with the powers that be here. That's what counts.

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00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And we had the guy the other day

834
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: call and said, you know he was he's selfish. He's

835
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: actually the exact opposite of that, trying to take the

836
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Speaker 2: club through a hard situation, a hard conversation, and the

837
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Speaker 2: club will grow from it. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Big Slim down in Saint Petersburg.

839
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Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Big Slim?

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Speaker 7: Hey, what's going on? Guys?

841
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: Not too much? What do you got for us?

842
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 7: My question is you think Josh Allen gets the championship

843
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 7: before he goes to the new house or in our

844
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Speaker 7: new house.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. Do they win a super

846
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: Bowl before they move into the new State Stadium?

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00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: Okay?

848
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 7: And what did bring and what did that bring us

849
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 7: going into our new stadium too? I mean, I mean,

850
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Speaker 7: I already know what you guys are gonna say. I mean,

851
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm a diehard Mafia fan. Of course I

852
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 7: want that, you know what I mean?

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00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you this. For me, it's a

854
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: good question, Big Slim. I'll say this, what would happen

855
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 2: if they won the Super Bowl? But the banner the

856
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: next season gets hung in the new stadium instead of

857
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Speaker 2: the old one. That would be I would bum out

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00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: about that. I gotta say, oh, okay, have you win

859
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl?

860
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you I wouldn't care.

861
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't from this end of it.

862
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: We're hanging a banner.

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00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: Who cares?

864
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: You could hang it over the Rainbow Bridge.

865
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Speaker 2: That's for all I care. But think about it, there's

866
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: a lot in that. There's a lot in that, a

867
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of sentimentality in this old stadium.

868
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: Yes, and I especially and why for old guys like me,

869
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: for someone like you whose names up there inside of it.

870
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: So I totally get that, totally respected. But I think

871
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: priority number one is winning the whole dang thing. Yeah,

872
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: and I would say, yeah, there is a chance they

873
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,479
Speaker 1: could do it. As Steve has said before, this team

874
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: has been good enough each of the last three seasons

875
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: to win the whole thing. They just have not played

876
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: their best in the games that are win or go home,

877
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: namely the playoffs. So we don't need to run through

878
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: the list. But Steve and I just did a podcast

879
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: this week that is out and available on all podcast platforms.

880
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Just look up bills by the numbers. That's the podcast

881
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: that Steve and I do separate from this show where

882
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: we dive into numbers and a bunch of other things

883
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: on there. And what we did was we did a

884
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: roster workup, and almost universally, from top to bottom, the

885
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: roster this year is better than the roster they fielded

886
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: last year from a talent perspective and from a depth perspective.

887
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: So nobody's talking about it, but we did on this

888
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: recent podcast, so we encourage you to check it out.

889
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: But I think it speaks to the ability of Brandon

890
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: Bean and his personnel department to find good value on

891
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: the free agent market that is going to help this

892
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: football team. Players with proven track records that can start

893
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: and are proven starters that may not even start here.

894
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: That's how good the depth is. Yeah, proven starters coming

895
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: to this roster who may not start, right, I mean,

896
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: that's that's saying something.

897
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: So there's no guarantees about any of this. We've saw

898
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: last year, how how injuries can derail and sabotage this season.

899
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 1: And von Miller for the last games, right, and that.

900
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: Can and that can happen to any team, absolutely any team,

901
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: and you know, good teams can overcome it to a

902
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: certain extent. But when you run up against a team

903
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: who is is good as well, has another strong roster

904
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: and is playing at a high level and they haven't

905
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 2: suffered that, it's a problem. I'm not saying that's how

906
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: it happened, you know, in in the Bills losses, or

907
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: in the playoffs or anything else. But we all know

908
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: this roster was hamstrung coming down the stretch and in

909
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: more ways than one. So yeah, they got over You know,

910
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: you're supposed to overcome that you can, but that's part

911
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: of the thing. From this end of the season. You

912
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: like where you sit. You got the roster built the

913
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 2: way you want it. You've got depth, You've got quality

914
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: players with experience ready to come in and fill in

915
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: for injuries, all of that stuff. But there is absolutely

916
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: and all of us know, there are no guarantees that

917
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: it's going to go the way you plan it.

918
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: Right, there's only one team that's happy in the NFL

919
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. We have to take

920
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: a break here, but when we come back, we're going

921
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: to be joined in our number two by Pro Football Focus,

922
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: NFL and draft analyst Trevor Sikkima, who is going to

923
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: bring us up to speed on some of the better

924
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: wide receiving corps in the league. Where did the Bills rank?

925
00:48:45,320 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: We'll find out next here on One Bill's Life This

926
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Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. All right, here

927
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: we are I one, number two on a Friday, Chris Brown,

928
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: Steve's tasking with you. Happy to be joined now by

929
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: the NFL and draft analysts for Pro Football Focus One

930
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: Trevor Sikhima joining us. Trevor, how's your summer going? Thanks

931
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: for giving us some time.

932
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 8: Oh, it's going fantastic. Appreciate you guys having me on.

933
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 8: We're just churning through all sorts of you know, preview content,

934
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 8: seeing what the upcoming season is going to be, getting

935
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 8: to know these teams, including the Buffalo Bills, as best

936
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 8: as we possibly can. So that's what we got going on.

937
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're it's fun this time of year because everybody's

938
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: healthy and everybody looks all shiny, bright, new and fresh,

939
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: and you know, you go down these rankings and certainly

940
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: on the surface it seems it's fun, but we all

941
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: know that every paint job gets a nick in it,

942
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: and somebody gets a dent in their fender. As the

943
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: season wears on. But you're you know, your rankings of

944
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: the wide receive the receiving corps, and I had to

945
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 2: correct myself. It's not the wide receiving cores that you're doing,

946
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: it's the entire group of pass catchers for each team.

947
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: Give us an idea of of what you maybe some

948
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: trends you see happening in the NFL with with the

949
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: receiving course of all these teams.

950
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, and as someone who's written quite a bit of

951
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 8: ranking articles over the course of this summer, let me

952
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 8: tell you every fan base thinks that their team is

953
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 8: going to be playoff bound, as I am reading a

954
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 8: lot of the feedback for this No. But you know,

955
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 8: the trends that we're seeing across the league are are

956
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 8: ones that you, guys and everybody listening knows. It's an

957
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 8: arms race for every team in the NFL. I mean,

958
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 8: we are in the offensive age and it's to the

959
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 8: point where you can't just have a dominant number one receiver.

960
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 8: You got to have a dominant one, sure, but you

961
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 8: also got to have a guy who could take the

962
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 8: top off of a defense. You got to have a

963
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 8: guy who knows how to win with two way goes

964
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 8: in the slot, whether it's a smaller, shiftier player or

965
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 8: whether it's a mismatch bigger guy like a tight end option.

966
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 8: You got to be able to have multi tight end sets.

967
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 8: You've got to have guys out of the backfield who

968
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 8: can help out the passing game in some way. Maybe

969
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 8: that's sometimes more on the ground than it is even

970
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 8: those swing plat passes out to the flat, But one

971
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 8: way or another, the run game's got to help out

972
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 8: the passing game, just because teams are lighting up the

973
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 8: scoreboards across the NFL. And so Buffalo still takes the

974
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 8: top ten spot for the receiving core unit, which takes

975
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Speaker 8: into account running backs, tight ends as well as wide receivers.

976
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 8: It's still one of the best and one of the

977
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 8: teams that can absolutely light up those scoreboards every single week.

978
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 8: And so that's just what I've been seeing, is when

979
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 8: I do these rankings, it's tough. I mean, I did

980
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 8: the individual wide receiver rankings not too long ago, and man,

981
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 8: it's just you get to wide receiver fifteen, and you

982
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 8: could make a case for them to be top eight,

983
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 8: top seven, and it's just there's so much receiver talent

984
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 8: in the League right now, and you see this doing

985
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 8: these kind of exercises.

986
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: All right, So with that in mind, you had the

987
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: Bills ranked ninth, and you know, I think that's fair.

988
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: The question I have for you is, we know that

989
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: the Hopkins thing was floating around out there for a while,

990
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: and the Bills were among the teams mentioned. They create

991
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of cap space with the ed Oliver extension,

992
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: but then turn around and use it on Leonard Floyd,

993
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, instead of devoting dollars like that perhaps

994
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: to on DeAndre Hopkins. How much do you believe them

995
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: not adding another offensive weapon indirectly points to how much

996
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: they could be depending on Dalton Kincaid to diversify this offense.

997
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

998
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 8: I think that that's a huge part of it, right,

999
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 8: And that's one of the reasons why I'm excited about

1000
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 8: this Buffalo Bills team. It's one of my big reasons

1001
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 8: for optimism because you know, it's not just about the

1002
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 8: talent that you have on the roster, but it's also

1003
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 8: about how you utilize it, right. I think that Kansas

1004
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 8: City Chiefs are one that everybody points to where they go.

1005
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 8: You know, look at what they were able to do

1006
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 8: even without Tyreek Hill, and it's how they put these

1007
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 8: different guys in different positions to succeed. When you have

1008
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 8: that elite quarterback, like the teams at the very top two,

1009
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 8: you just want to put those offensive pieces in situations

1010
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 8: where they're going to be the most advantageous. Dog Kin

1011
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 8: Kid last year at Utah Elite ninety point two receiving

1012
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 8: Graham as great as a tight end. That was the

1013
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 8: number one ranking for receiving tight end that we had

1014
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 8: in our system last year. He was tight end one

1015
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 8: on a lot of draft boards for a reason because

1016
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 8: of that. And when you look at the Buffalo Bill's

1017
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 8: trends over the last couple of years, Yeah, they've definitely

1018
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 8: been able to light it up through the air. Josh

1019
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 8: Allen's been able to rip the ball over the last

1020
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 8: couple of seasons, but multi tight end usage is not

1021
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 8: something that they have gone to, quite frankly, at all.

1022
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 8: And you look at the numbers, two hundred and thirteen

1023
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 8: snaps of twelve or twenty two personnel, that's at least

1024
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 8: two tight ends on the field. They're the last place

1025
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 8: in the NFL. It's just not something that they do

1026
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 8: and not every team has to make that a major

1027
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 8: emphasis of their offense, but the fact that Buffalo was

1028
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 8: just so far behind what even the average of the

1029
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 8: league was for an offensive set that now becomes a

1030
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 8: strength for them. That's something that I'm really looking forward to.

1031
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 8: You have Dawston Knox, you have Dalton Kincaid, You've already

1032
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 8: got good receivers that you can move in and out.

1033
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 8: And I'm with you. I think that them not being

1034
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 8: as in on DeAndre Hopkins, maybe you know, selling the

1035
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 8: farm to go get him, is a sign that they're

1036
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 8: pretty comfortable with where they're at strategically, and I really

1037
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 8: do believe that Dalton Kinkaid is a major portion of that.

1038
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked at at length on our show of

1039
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: how they have upgraded all across the board, and starting

1040
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: with their offensive line with Connor McGovern and Osirius Torrens

1041
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: at the draft pick David Edwards, a former starter for

1042
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: the Rams. One of the things we have discussed at

1043
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: length is how Leonard Floyd. The signing of Leonard Floyd,

1044
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: who we thought we were surprised they got him, landed

1045
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: him that late in the free agent market as an

1046
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: edge rusher, and certainly you've got even in your ranking.

1047
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: You've got Vaughn still as a top ten edge rusher

1048
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: off the edge coming off his injury. How does a

1049
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: guy like Floyd maybe affect how effective Vaughn can be

1050
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: Having a Leonard Floyd proven on the other side.

1051
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think it just comes down to this, right,

1052
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 8: especially when you're playing playoff football, you can never have

1053
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 8: too many pass rushers. I mean, it's just impossible. You

1054
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 8: can never have too many of these guys that know

1055
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 8: how to get after the passer because even if you're

1056
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 8: not playing them in full time roles, like even if

1057
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 8: it's situation roles, even if the rotation of your pass

1058
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 8: rusher's edge pass rushers even is very deep, you put

1059
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 8: these guys in unique situations where they're thriving when you

1060
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 8: put them out on the field, and that keeps offensive

1061
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 8: tackles on their heels because they're facing all different sorts

1062
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 8: of rushers of different styles and different preferences, different strengths

1063
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 8: and weaknesses, different measurables, like, all of that just goes

1064
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 8: into it. So it makes a ton of sense for

1065
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 8: a team like Buffalo, who Yeah, on paper, okay, maybe

1066
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 8: Leonard Floyd might not be a full time starter for you,

1067
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 8: especially when Vaughn is fully backed and healthy. But when

1068
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 8: you get into the playoffs, you know these guys are

1069
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 8: everybody's dealing with little injuries. And the deeper that your

1070
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 8: room can be, and I would say this too, the

1071
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 8: more experienced that your room can be, it just it

1072
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 8: takes your potential of what you can be near the

1073
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 8: conference championship game, near the Super Bowl, to the next level.

1074
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 8: And yeah, I absolutely still have von Miller as one

1075
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 8: of the best pass rushers in the NFL. You look

1076
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 8: at even what he was able to do last season

1077
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 8: before his injury, the technique, and just how much of

1078
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 8: a master he is of that position. Even at his age,

1079
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 8: it's proven to be so effective. I mean, he might

1080
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 8: not be the athlete that he was in the prime

1081
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 8: of his career even a couple of years ago, but

1082
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 8: his mind and how he approaches pass rushing is still

1083
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 8: good enough to be considered deadly and in somebody who

1084
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 8: could be a game wrecker, especially in those fourth quarters.

1085
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 8: So I think Floyd is just another really great addition

1086
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 8: because it adds more depth, more uniqueness to all of

1087
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 8: the players that they can throw at the pocket and

1088
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 8: throw at different offensive tackles. Every single week.

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00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: You guys, you put together a right up on biggest

1090
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: training camp battles across the league. Obviously, the middle linebacker

1091
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: one here is gonna be under the microscope. With Tremaine

1092
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: Edmonds now in Chicago and the Bills seemingly deciding we're

1093
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: comfortable going with an in house candidate. They did not

1094
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: bring in anybody new for that position. They're gonna use

1095
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: a handful of guys in there that are already on

1096
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Speaker 1: the roster, including the third round draft choice Dory and Williams.

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Speaker 1: I even asked their linebackers coach Bobby Babbage, you got

1098
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: three or four candidates here, how soon are you gonna

1099
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: whittle this thing down? Because ultimately you've got to get

1100
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: a starter ready to play in week one, And he

1101
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: kind of left it very open ended. You can't have

1102
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: four guys cycling through taking reps. You got to get

1103
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: that down to three or two pretty early in training

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Speaker 1: camp if you're gonna have a starter ready.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I agree, especially for how I would say Verstial.

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Speaker 8: It feels like linebackers have to be in today's NFL, right,

1108
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 8: You've got to be able to go heavy, you know,

1109
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 8: you've got to be able to have three linebackers that

1110
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 8: you're very comfortable with on the field. You've got to

1111
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 8: have a guy who's in the middle controlling a lot

1112
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Speaker 8: of things, and we know that that's going to be

1113
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 8: Matt Milano. But you know who's going to be more

1114
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 8: of the coverage backer, who's going to be more of

1115
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 8: the sam linebacker, who's going to play on the line

1116
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 8: of scrimmage for you, you at least have to have

1117
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 8: those roles solidified and not that what you have out

1118
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 8: there in week one can't change to week nine, week ten,

1119
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 8: and even maybe even when you're making a playoff push.

1120
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Speaker 8: But you've got to have a good idea because if not,

1121
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 8: especially when you're dealing with young guys, rookies and they

1122
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 8: know this, you don't want to overwhelm them. Being an

1123
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 8: off ball linebacker and having significant snaps as a rookie

1124
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 8: is such a difficult pass. Think about what a linebacker is, right.

1125
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Speaker 8: You got to measure everything around you. You got to

1126
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 8: know the coverage behind you. You got to know the coverage

1127
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 8: not only for the linebacker next to you, but the

1128
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 8: guys on the outside as well. You've got to understand

1129
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Speaker 8: the front where guys are slanting, if they're slanted, where

1130
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 8: your run fits are. And then of course you're assignments,

1131
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 8: whether it's a tight end, whether it's the quarterback, whether

1132
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 8: you're in a spy, if it's the running back coming

1133
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 8: out of the backfield. There are so many things that

1134
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 8: you have to think about. So not only is the

1135
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 8: competition level and the speed ramping up from what you're

1136
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 8: used to going from college to the NFL, but your

1137
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 8: responsibilities often are as well, and we know that the

1138
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 8: smallest mistake can make the biggest difference in the world,

1139
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 8: especially for a team in a winning window like Buffalo is.

1140
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 8: I'm excited to see what Dorian Williams can be, though,

1141
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 8: because in a draft where there just weren't a ton

1142
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 8: of true off ball linebacker prospects or a lot of

1143
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 8: these guys who were former safeties turned linebacker, edge rushers

1144
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 8: turned linebacker. There weren't a lot of guys who were

1145
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 8: just like, yep, this is what I've been since high school.

1146
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 8: I am an off ball linebacker. I'm playing in the

1147
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 8: middle of the field. Jack Campbell was one of them,

1148
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 8: and I think that's why you saw him get drafted

1149
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 8: so high. But Dorian Williams is another one where he

1150
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 8: has the background to be that type of a player

1151
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 8: that you lean on. He understands the position, he's got

1152
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 8: nice athleticism when he can read and react, and when

1153
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 8: that light turns, he is a missile straight towards where

1154
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 8: the ball carrier is and he's got the athleticism for it.

1155
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 8: So he gets the reps in there, and I'd love

1156
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 8: to see him get those, a lot of preseason reps,

1157
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 8: a lot of training camp reps, and some early season

1158
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 8: reps as well. I think he could play a big

1159
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 8: role for them in whatever their rotation ends up being.

1160
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 8: By the time they're getting to the second half of

1161
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Speaker 8: the season.

1162
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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, it's an arms race all over the

1163
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: National Football League, but in the AFC East, Miami and

1164
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: Buffalo are now going to sport new defensive coordinators, guys

1165
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: trying to derail these offenses. The Jets bring in Aaron Rodgers,

1166
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: the arms race continues for them. The Patriots bring Bill

1167
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: O'Brien back to the fold. He's gonna start trying to

1168
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: run the offense a little better. What do you think

1169
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: when you look around, you see the change in coordinators

1170
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: around the NFL, and those guys are as big a

1171
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: difference maker for me, in my opinion, as any player

1172
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,959
Speaker 2: you can sign. What do you think in the AFC

1173
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: East with Vic Fangio and Miami and now Sean McDermott

1174
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: here in Buffalo, is there a chance for defenses around

1175
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: the NFL to kind of balance the scale back away

1176
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: from the arms race offensively?

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Speaker 8: Well, we know that the league is cyclical, right, It'll

1178
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 8: be offensively dominated for an extended period of time, whatever

1179
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 8: it is, half decade, ten years, and then of course

1180
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 8: it'll bounce back around and some teams figure out how

1181
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 8: to defend those better than others. And I am very,

1182
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 8: very excited to see what Fangio is able to do

1183
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 8: in Miami. I know some Buffalo Bills fans might not

1184
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 8: be as excited as I am, but for a defensive

1185
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 8: mind like Fangio to have a really solid defensive front,

1186
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 8: some good linebackers now who are reliable players, and a

1187
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 8: secondary that was already pretty dang strong and talented. Now

1188
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 8: you're throwing Jalen Ramsey into the mix. How is he

1189
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 8: going to be deployed week in and week out to

1190
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 8: manage that chess game against what you mentioned a lot

1191
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 8: of the best offenses in the NFL, and so I'm

1192
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 8: very curious as to what the counter is going to be.

1193
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 8: Is it simply going to be team needing stronger secondary players.

1194
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 8: Is gonna be them emphasizing, all right, let's get more

1195
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 8: interior pressure, because we know that if we get to

1196
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 8: the quarterback immediately, then all right, all these wide receivers

1197
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 8: they can't even get into their routes. Right we're playing

1198
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 8: closer coverage, or playing tighter coverage, or were backing up

1199
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 8: a little bit. I'm curious to see what a guy

1200
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 8: like Fangio is able to do. You mentioned Bill O'Brien

1201
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 8: as well. I think that's a great hiring for the Patriots.

1202
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 8: Like I understand that Bill O'Brien's time at the end

1203
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 8: of his Houston tenure wasn't seen in the best light,

1204
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 8: but man, he coached some really great Houston Texans teams

1205
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 8: over the course of him being a head coach there,

1206
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 8: and I think that he is a really good offensive mind.

1207
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 8: Getting him with Bill Belichick, I think it's going to

1208
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 8: be a good combo. And so, man, if we already

1209
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 8: thought that this was gonna be one of the toughest

1210
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 8: divisions in the NFL, and with those coordinator changes. It's

1211
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 8: just got a lot tougher, no doubt.

1212
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Speaker 1: Getting back to you know, the receiver rankings that you

1213
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: put together on PFF dot com, you mentioned that you

1214
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: included backs in the equation, and I don't think there

1215
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: has been much made of James cook ascension into a

1216
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: larger role here in Buffalo's offense. We know he is

1217
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: an accomplished, accomplished pass catcher. He did it at Georgia,

1218
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, granted in a rotational role with all the

1219
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: talent they have there, but that was a guy they

1220
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: lined up outside the numbers. The Bills did some of that.

1221
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey lined him up outside the numbers at times,

1222
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: but also I mean on swing passes, this guy is

1223
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: like deadly in terms of making people miss in space.

1224
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: What could you foresee for him going forward knowing that

1225
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: the roadblock that was Devin Singletary is out of the way.

1226
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was my favorite attribute of James Cook when

1227
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 8: he was at Georgia. He stood out for that reason

1228
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 8: for me, and I liked him even more than some

1229
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 8: of the Georgia backs that I think people focused on.

1230
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 8: When it came to carries outside of the backfield, I

1231
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 8: was like, no, no, no, James Cook's going to be the

1232
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 8: more effective pro because he's going to be able to

1233
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 8: influence the game at a better level. Right, You got

1234
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 8: to take a look at what guys bring to the table,

1235
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 8: what their strengths are, and say, how do we project

1236
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 8: that to the next and what's the return on investment there?

1237
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 8: Is that something that is worthwhile or is it a

1238
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 8: strength that Yeah, it's not really impacting the game too much.

1239
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 8: What James Cook does from a receiving game standpoint, to me,

1240
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 8: is going to be substantial to what their overall offensive

1241
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 8: output is going to be. There's plays that I watched

1242
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 8: from him in Georgia where I'm glad that you said

1243
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 8: the ability to make guys miss, because that's what makes

1244
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 8: him such a deadly receiver in my opinion. You get

1245
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 8: a lot of running backs around even the NFL, who

1246
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 8: if you release them to the flat, if you get

1247
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 8: them run in a wheel route, it's a momentum route, right.

1248
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 8: I mean, it's guys who are just they're taking off,

1249
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 8: They're trying to make the most out of their speed.

1250
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 8: You're getting the ball in their hands, hopefully in rhythm,

1251
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 8: and they're already up to top speed. That is fine.

1252
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 8: That works, but James Cook can do that as well

1253
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 8: as run the Texas routes right as well as run Okay,

1254
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go up towards the tackle position. I'm gonna

1255
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 8: stick my foot in the ground, and now I'm gonna

1256
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 8: make a traditional off ball lineback try to cover me

1257
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 8: as I am immediately changing directions. That's a difficult ask.

1258
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,479
Speaker 8: So all of a sudden, with James Cook, not only

1259
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 8: are you demanding that they put somebody on him who

1260
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 8: has the overall speed to cover him. Now you're demanding

1261
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 8: that they also have to have the lateral quickness to

1262
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 8: cover them. And that is an area that I think

1263
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 8: you can really attack because there's not a ton of linebackers,

1264
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 8: even some of the good ones in coverage, that have

1265
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 8: that kind of start stopability that James Cook is able

1266
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 8: to demonstrate. So I think that that specifically is a

1267
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 8: trait of his that can really thrive the more opportunities

1268
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 8: that he gets in the passing game.

1269
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 2: Trevor, thanks so much for spending time with us. Appreciate

1270
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: your Now I love reading your stuff as well. Thanks

1271
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: appreciate it, guys.

1272
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: Anytime, all right, we'll catch up with you down the line.

1273
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: That's Trevor Sikima from Pro Footballfocused dot Com NFL Draft

1274
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: and regular season analysts here on one Bill is Live.

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Speaker 1: Want to get back to the phone calls here with

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Speaker 1: the Friday fan mailbag, Open open lines for you at

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Speaker 1: eight h three oh five fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 1: point fifty two five fifty then number to get on

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Speaker 1: board if you have a question about the Bills, the

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01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: league at large, just about anything on your mind. And

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: to a guy who's been waiting patiently, we go to

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Speaker 1: Joe and Amherst. What do you have for us?

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Speaker 9: Joe, Hi, guys, listen, I'm going to give you my

1284
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 9: take on the state of the Bills as of today,

1285
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 9: and let's start with the pros. Number one GM one

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Speaker 9: of the best, is not the best in the business.

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Speaker 9: Number two head coaching staff thirty seven and twelve, last

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Speaker 9: three years, anyone recalled the last two decades. Number three

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Speaker 9: fifty man roster and prec team as good as anyone

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Speaker 9: in the league. Number four the fan base, the mafia

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01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 9: speaks for itself. Number five the quarterback, most important player

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01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 9: in football. Two words, Josh Allen. Number six the three

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Speaker 9: c's culture, consistency, continuity, Now let's go to the cons.

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Speaker 9: And I won't call them cons because I'm a positive guy.

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01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 9: I call them unowns. Number one, of course, stay healthy.

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Speaker 9: Number two, reduce turnovers, drops in the red zone. Number

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Speaker 9: three good fortune, more breaks than not. Number four a

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Speaker 9: plan for success based on common sense, reason and logic.

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Speaker 9: And let's remember, hope is not a plan. Number five.

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01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 9: Turn off the noise. Don't listen to the pundits the naysayers.

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01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 9: Listen to people like Brownie and number eighty nine. Everyone

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 9: relaxed and enjoy the ride, go bills, and God speaks.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Joe, Joe well delivered. That sounded like

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: a book report. That was very nice, better than anyone

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01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: I ever put together in high school.

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe's way too prepared to be calling in our show.

1307
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 2: That's right.

1308
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: He is far too intelligence.

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: Yes he's, yeah, he's He's.

1310
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: Single handedly vaulted the IQ of our program into the strandity.

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01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 2: He is absolutely raise the bar for a caller that

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01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: he had. I wrote him down. He had six points

1313
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 2: on the positive and six on the negative, five on

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: the negative, which he chose to call unknowns, which is

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: more more accurate once to get Thank you, Joe. I

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01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: appreciate you. That was very nicely said.

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01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: But he is right.

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01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: We got some hope we do have. That's right. We

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01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: do have a lot of some callers today that we

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01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 2: have agreed with quite extensively.

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01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: I would say that is true.

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01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: It must be Friday vibe.

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01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's right about some of the unknowns, which

1324
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be a little lucky. Mister Wilson

1325
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: has to say that all the time. You got to

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01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: have a little luck in your life.

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01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: It's the staying healthy. Staying healthy, but the red zone

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: turnovers and drops that brownie, and I've been harping on

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01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 2: that for months and weeks. Luck. Yes, hope is not

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01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: a plan. They don't need. You know, you don't need hope.

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01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: All you need. You don't need luck. I'm saying you

1332
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 2: need some good fortune. Just we just go out and

1333
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: do your thing, you know, and to and tune out.

1334
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: And it's harder than ever in this day and age.

1335
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 2: We all know. And you you can't pick up your

1336
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: phone without checking on what people are saying about you,

1337
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So the players are no

1338
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: different than the rest of us. If there's a conversation

1339
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 2: going on about them, they want to eavesdrop see what

1340
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: people are saying, but you got to know that it

1341
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: should not affect you in your preparation, in the way

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01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: you do your process. So that's that's huge because they.

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: Say success is when preparation meets opportunity. And I used

1344
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: to have a coach that used to say, you make

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01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: your own breaks. You know, sure people can attribute things

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01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: to good luck, but if you're prepared when the opportunity

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01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: presents itself, you make your own breaks.

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01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: That's right.

1349
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean you can't get screwed by an official,

1350
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: but that's a whole that's a whole other story. Yeah right,

1351
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: it's sorry, way to go, but it's still a little bitter.

1352
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: I still can't get over that Tampa Bay game, you know,

1353
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: can't get past that one from twenty Yeah, there's been

1354
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: the overtime game horrible. Let's quick take a question from

1355
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: the mail bag on at one Bill's Live. Andrew asks,

1356
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: here's my question that I love to get your point

1357
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 1: of view on. If you were the GM of the coach,

1358
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: what changes would you make to this team this season

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: versus last season?

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: Well, go go look at the transactions page of the

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01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: the thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they basically what they've done in the offensive backfield.

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01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: I would say at the running back position, I don't

1364
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: know if I could put my sign of approval on

1365
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: it any faster than they put their names on contracts.

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01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: Damian Harris, I think is going to be one of

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01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: the most underrated additions to this roster. And right behind

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01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: him is Poona Ford. Right, maybe I'm a sucker for

1369
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: defensive tackles because I was over the moon with the

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01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: defensive tackles they signed last year, and de Kwon Jones

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01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: was probably the unsung hero of this football team last year.

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01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: Now you've got a guy who's every bit as capable

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01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: as him, and he's the guy that's coming in on

1374
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: a rotation to sub him out. Hello, you got two

1375
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: proven run stuffers that are going to rotate in and

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01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: out on that side. And why that's important is because

1377
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips can now go back to a full time

1378
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: three technique position behind Dad Oliver. And I'm just gonna

1379
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: tell you, Steve, do you know the player who has

1380
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: the highest single sax season in the Sean McDermott era.

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01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. It's our boy, Phillips.

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01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: It's Jordan Phillips. Nine and a half sacks in twenty nineteen.

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll say this too that Pooniford and Leonard

1384
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 2: Floyd those are gets. I mean that's especially in May

1385
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: and June. That's Brandon Bean being the dude right there.

1386
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you one hundred percent. I think

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01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: those guys are huge difference makers. And the running backs

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: that you mentioned and then you're saying, and you know,

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: the question was what's your you know, what would you

1390
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 2: have done if you that just just what Brandon Bean did.

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01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: The other thing I would have listed was a difference

1392
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: making tight end check that box.

1393
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: Both guards are going to be brand new, younger and

1394
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: more athletic and bigger. I mean, it's just go down

1395
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: the list, right. The only place that you can make

1396
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: a case where they don't they didn't have a long

1397
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 2: term plan was the fact that they lost Tremaine Edmunds

1398
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: and for fifteen million dollars a year, And I have

1399
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 2: a hard time getting my mind around that for an

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01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: off the ball linebacker.

1401
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: Ed asks in the mail bag, how is this preseason

1402
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: roster stack up against previous ones? Go listen to our

1403
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: podcast Builds by the Numbers. We break it all down

1404
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: top to bottom. On the roster. You can find it

1405
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 1: on any one of your podcast platforms. But in short,

1406
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: it's better.

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01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: We like it.

1408
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: They have upgraded everywhere. The only place you can't say

1409
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: they upgraded is middle linebacker because it's an unknown. That's

1410
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: the only reason why you can't say it's an upgrade.

1411
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be hard to say one of these

1412
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: guys behind that was playing behind Tremaine Edmunds is going

1413
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 2: to take his job and play better. But they will

1414
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 2: play different and there are gonna be times when they flash.

1415
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: No question about who knows. But I like the group

1416
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: of guys that got There's like five guys that have

1417
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: a shot at this I think legit shot, and they're

1418
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 2: gonna find out and we'll know a week indo camp

1419
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: who's elevating and you know how it's getting distilled there

1420
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: and who's going to take most of the reps. It'll

1421
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: be fun to watch.

1422
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: Matthew with more of a statement than a question. He says,

1423
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is under fire by National pundits, parentheses, hacks

1424
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: and even some Bills fans. This is absolutely crazy to me.

1425
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: He has made mistakes, sure, but he's done far more

1426
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: things right. Excellent head coaches build perennial contending teams, and

1427
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: that's exactly what he has done. I said much of

1428
01:13:54,400 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: the same yesterday. To even think for a second that

1429
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott doesn't spend every waking moment trying to find ways,

1430
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: new methods and practices to make this the best possible

1431
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: team that they can put out on the field every

1432
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: single week and every single snap. Your nuts if you

1433
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: don't think that's how he spends every waking moment. Now, look,

1434
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 1: the guy still puts in time, you know, with his family.

1435
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: But when he first got here he talked about how

1436
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: he had to learn the work life balance as a

1437
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: young coach, and now as a head coach with even

1438
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: more on your plate, that probably becomes tougher, but he doesn't.

1439
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: He even does a good job of that. We see

1440
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: him in the fieldhouse all the time, you know, with

1441
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: his daughter doing the softball thing, you know, working with

1442
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 1: her in there. So somebody said it earlier on the show, Steve,

1443
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: the guy is thirty seven and twelve in the last

1444
01:14:54,800 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 1: three seasons. Tell me the last head coach doing that here, anyone, anyone?

1445
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. Mark. We got to go back to

1446
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 2: Marv Marv. I don't know. Marv didn't do that in

1447
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: his first few years.

1448
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: Not in his first few but by the time you

1449
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: guys got on that Super Bowl, right, he was doing

1450
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: that kind of a thing.

1451
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's true.

1452
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 1: Thirty seven and twelve people, thirty seven and twelve, don't

1453
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: be fool they are. You got a good one.

1454
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: They are an extremely difficult team to beat, even when

1455
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: they're not playing.

1456
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: Their best, and that's rare, and they play really well

1457
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: and they play hard for this guy.

1458
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: They do play hard for the guy, no question about it.

1459
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 2: But it is. They are really tough to beat. And

1460
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: you know, thirteen and three, three losses by total eight points,

1461
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: and two of those losses were absolute gift wrapped. They're

1462
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: fun to watch. And you sit here and we have

1463
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: lots of conversations about it, and I get it because

1464
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: that's what we do. We all of us do it.

1465
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: Human beings do it. You try and start, okay, but

1466
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: we got we need to do this when we're talking

1467
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: about I mean, we're splitting hairs now in criticizing this team. Certainly,

1468
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: they haven't won a Super Bowl, haven't been to a

1469
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowl under Sean McDermott. But when you start, you're

1470
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: talking about, well, they only have five guys that may

1471
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: be a subbot for this middle life packer thing. They got.

1472
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 2: They replaced their guards with three guys who are starters

1473
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: on a you know. I mean, they brought Leonard Floyd

1474
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 2: in as a late addition in Poona Ford, and they

1475
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: got They got kay or Elan coming back, highly motivated,

1476
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: Christian Benford, Dane Jackson, Tredavious White, healthy and back, bright

1477
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: eyed and bushy tailed like we've never like, we haven't

1478
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: seen him in two years.

1479
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: This guy looks like all pro traders.

1480
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: Hide and Poyer coming back with And by the way,

1481
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 2: they got the the safety, starting safety from a team

1482
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: that just won the Super Bowl two years ago, that

1483
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 2: guy Tobacco. Those guys up or to compete Matt Malona

1484
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 2: coming off an All Pro season. You got Jakwan Jones,

1485
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: you got Jordan Phillips, all healthy, coming back at Oliver

1486
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: under contract, I mean, and Jordan Poyer came. Don't forget

1487
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer wasn't supposed to be here. He's supposed to

1488
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 2: be long gone free agent. So it's it's really hard

1489
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: to poke holes in this thing. The guys they got

1490
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: to back up Diggs and Davis and compete with them

1491
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 2: like Trent Sherfield and Hardy. Goodness, gracious, I'm I am

1492
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: really really optimistic and excited about this club. Even I

1493
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 2: gotta say, I'm I'm even further along the line than

1494
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: in you know, the way I feel about it than

1495
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: I was last year, because I wasn't so caught up

1496
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 2: in the the you know, the thirteen second stuff last year,

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Speaker 2: and how just the missing So.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, don't break time here when we come back.

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Speaker 1: More of your Poone calls Brian and Springfield us off.

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Speaker 1: When we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, here

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01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: we be One Bill's Live on a Friday. Obl Friday

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01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: fan mail bag still open for your questions. We go

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01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,520
Speaker 1: back to the phones for one and to Brian in Springfield.

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01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Brian? Hold on, let

1506
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: me get you here. What do you got for us?

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01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 2: Brian?

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01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live.

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01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 10: How you guys doing today?

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01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 2: Good? Good?

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01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:35,879
Speaker 6: Good?

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01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 10: So my argument is, and I get that you guys

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01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 10: have to tote the line and everything like that. He

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01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 10: can be thirty five and twelve and it's great. We

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01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 10: understand that defensive coordinators has had coaches don't generally get

1516
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 10: you to where you want to be. What's his record

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01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 10: in the playoffs? That's the only thing that matters. He Okay,

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01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 10: he's four and five. He can only the fact that

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01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 10: he's four and five, I was the only thing that

1520
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 10: really matters. And he has Josh Allen as a quarterback.

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01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 10: He'd better be good in the regular season because he's

1522
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 10: got the Alpha male. But the only time that matters

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01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 10: is thirteen seconds. The only time that matters is against Houston.

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01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 10: The only thing that really matters. We know this, right, Steve.

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01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 10: We know this that you have to win the playoffs,

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01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 10: especially with that type of talent, to be considered a

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01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 10: great coach. And if you don't do that, in my opinion,

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01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 10: then then you're failing as a head coach.

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01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: All right, what's what's your plan of action should they

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01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 2: fire him?

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01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 10: I think the plan of action would be let's wait

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01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 10: out this season because you wouldn't do it now, great guy.

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01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: What I'm asking you this, Brian, is this, if the

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01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 2: Bills don't win the Super Bowl this year, do you

1535
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 2: fire him? If they go to the Super Bowl?

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01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 10: It I know I know, I do, I do, I don't.

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01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 10: I don't think that that you can allow this window

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01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 10: of opportunity to be great to get past you. And

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 10: if we continue to say, Okay, he's a great guy.

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01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 10: We win a lot of regular season games, but we

1541
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 10: never succeed when it matters the most, then I think

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01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 10: that you're failing the fan base and the team because

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01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 10: this is our window of opportunity. Josh is only going

1544
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 10: to be so young, so long. Six years later, we're

1545
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 10: still sitting here losing every time we get to the playoffs.

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01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 10: You know what Andy Reid does. Andy Reid wins, and

1547
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 10: it's because he has a great quarterback, But so do we.

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01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,480
Speaker 10: But Andy Reid wins.

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01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: He lost three consecutive He lost three consecutive NFC title games.

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01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 10: Brian, he's got how many Super Bowls? I don't care

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01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 10: about that, Like how many super Bowls does the guy

1552
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 10: head the head coach?

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01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm presenting you with the same exact argument that

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01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: you just presented to me. You said, if McDermott gets

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01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl this year and doesn't win, you're

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01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,879
Speaker 1: gonna fire him. Well, Andy Reid got to four NFC

1557
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,759
Speaker 1: title games and lost three of them and then lost

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01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl after that.

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01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 6: But Brownie, you know what happened.

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01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 10: They fired him.

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01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,440
Speaker 1: After four appearances.

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01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 10: Lease, he was in Philly and they fire him after.

1563
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: The fourth appearance. You don't do it after one.

1564
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 5: But we can't.

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01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 10: And who who is this quarterback? He was getting there again,

1566
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 10: Donovan's a good quarterback. I don't disagree, but he was

1567
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 10: getting there with less than what we have. We need

1568
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 10: to make a decision and say to ourselves we cannot

1569
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 10: waste Josh Allen's best years. And if it is him

1570
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 10: as a defensive coordinator head coach, which we understand is

1571
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 10: not optimal, then you're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's take this a step further, Brian, who

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01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: is your answer to get as another head coach? If

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01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: you want to go all the way down this road

1575
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: to convince me that it's going to be better than

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01:21:58,960 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: what you have right now?

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01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 10: Offensive coordinator somebody? Right, We understand the defensive corner. Defensive

1578
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 10: mind to head coaches generally don't get you to the

1579
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 10: promised land. We need to get an offensive mind that

1580
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 10: and again to be determined because we still have to

1581
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 10: figure out what happens this year. You know what I pray.

1582
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 10: I pray that Sean McDermott takes us to the Super

1583
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 10: Bowl and we win a Super Bowl, or all Bills fans,

1584
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 10: that's what we want. But at the end of the day,

1585
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 10: I don't want to keep running my head into a

1586
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 10: brick wall.

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01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean that's your opinion, Brian, you're a title

1588
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: to it. Just I'll respect it from my end, will

1589
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: agree to disagree. It took the Bills twenty years to

1590
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: find a head coach of this caliber that wins football games,

1591
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: has the team perennially contending. And if you want to

1592
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: throw the baby out with the bathwater, that's your opinion.

1593
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: You're entitled to it. I understand where you're coming from.

1594
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: All the offensive coaching is in vogue now, and I

1595
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: get it. Last time I checked, Bill Belichick's got what

1596
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: six World championships as a head coach. Mike Tomlin's got

1597
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: one defensive coach, Bill Cowers got one special teams coach

1598
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee's got one defensive coach. I mean, there are

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01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: examples of defensive coaches who have won Super Bowls. It's

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01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: not like there aren't any.

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01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 2: I'll say this too, and I get that about your

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01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: get back and you get this ten thousand foot view

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01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 2: of any and I get it, Brian, you're trying to

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01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 2: look at the big picture. Hey, if you can't get

1605
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: over there. I'll just say this again. It's my opinion.

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01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: I do differ from your opinion. It's not about and

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01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: I'll say this too, it is a little bit about

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01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: going thirty seven and twelve. You're tough to beat, you're

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: hard to beat, and you're gonna get in the chance

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01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: at the ring every single year. It's about playing well

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01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: on that day. It's not some magic I'll say it again.

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01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 2: There's no magic elixer Madge that makes one team better.

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01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: It's about that team having something inside him that they

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01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: can play well in tight moments. That doesn't mean you're

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01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 2: never gonna do that. It doesn't mean that you're incapable

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01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: of It just means you got to play better on

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01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: that day. The Bills, the Bengals, the Chiefs, and who

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01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 2: was the last year, the Dolphins, you name it, the Chargers.

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01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 2: All of those teams have a lot of players, good coaches,

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01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 2: great coaches, offensive coaches, defensive coaches. It's about playing well

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01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: in the matchup that the standings say you're gonna have

1622
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 2: that week in the playoffs. You're the one seed going

1623
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 2: against the eight seed, or you're the four seed going

1624
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: against the five seed, the three seed against the sixth seed,

1625
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 2: whatever it is, you gotta play well on that day

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01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: and you're your head coach. You're right, is responsible for

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01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: getting you to do that. But he's not responsible for

1628
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: having four defensive starters out of the game. He's not

1629
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: responsible for a bad call on a pass interference. He's

1630
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 2: not responsible for a drop pass on a perfect play call.

1631
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 2: He's not You know, there's all kinds of stuff like

1632
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 2: that that go on during a game, and every game

1633
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 2: is its own world, in its own universe. This coaching staff,

1634
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 2: this organization, I won't even say it's Sean McDermott by himself,

1635
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: it's this organization is in the hunt. If there's games

1636
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 2: going on, they are in it. No matter whether it's

1637
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: regular season, playoffs, preseason, you name it. This is an

1638
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 2: organization that's in it. You don't change anything, and I

1639
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: know that's sacrilegious to something you got to do everything

1640
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 2: different because it didn't work. No, no, no, you just

1641
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 2: do what you do and do it better, particularly on

1642
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: game day. You don't have to change the GM. You

1643
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 2: don't have to change the head coach because you lost

1644
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 2: to thirteen seconds. You don't have to change uh. You

1645
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: don't have to change defensive coordinators because you blew a

1646
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 2: sixteen point lead in Houston. None of that's, none of

1647
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 2: that's doesn't You just gotta keep calling. You gotta get better,

1648
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 2: do what you do better, and learn from the hard

1649
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 2: lessons you have. This is part of what it takes

1650
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: to win a world championship. It's part of what it takes.

1651
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 2: You get teams like Philly who slide in and catch

1652
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle one year, get a backup quarterback

1653
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 2: to come in. I mean, nobody wants a backup quarterback

1654
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: to come in Philly does it, gets a little spark

1655
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 2: from it, and they win a World championship because of it.

1656
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 2: They beat the Patriots. Okay, that's part of that. That's

1657
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: part of what goes into sports. You're you get the

1658
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 2: best people you can and you support them and they'll

1659
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: figure it out. And that's what's happening here in Buffalo.

1660
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 2: So don't you know, don't start talking about ejecting guys

1661
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 2: who have who have been all time great for the franchise.

1662
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: It's crazy And I'm just gonna say this, Yes, the

1663
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles fired Andy Reid, but it didn't do it

1664
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,919
Speaker 1: until twenty twelve, seven years after his last Super Bowl appearance.

1665
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: Why because they believe that guy could get them there

1666
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: every single time. And the guy they hired after him

1667
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: was an offensive guru. You want to know, his name

1668
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: was Chip Kelly. Had that go?

1669
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: You know?

1670
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: They hired after him another offensive guy, Pat Shermer. How

1671
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: did that go? Seven and nine? So you want to

1672
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: find a replacement any offensive coordinator, That's what the Eagles did.

1673
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: It went horribly wrong with their next two choices. There's

1674
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: no guarantees. You know what you've got here. You hold

1675
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: on to that because he puts him in the hunt,

1676
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: as Steve said every single season.

1677
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 2: End of story.

1678
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,799
Speaker 1: We'll take a break. We'll be back to close things.

1679
01:27:42,600 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 2: Up, all right.

1680
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: Here would be one final segment here on One Bill's Live.

1681
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, if you got time for a

1682
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: couple of final questions in the mail bag, Rachel asked

1683
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: if kyer Elam isn't the starting cebe two by week one?

1684
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: Should that be considered a disappointing pick? I like Benford

1685
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: and Dane. But if Elam can't beat them out in

1686
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 1: his second season, I think we drafted him too high.

1687
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that. It's a mazing Now I'm

1688
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: not saying that, you know, Christian Benford can't play or

1689
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 2: Dane Jackson can't play, and you know, but it could

1690
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: be that Kyer Eland, while he would not he'd be

1691
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 2: a disappointment here in Buffalo, wouldn't mean he can't play.

1692
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: It could be that he that the skill set he

1693
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: brought here doesn't fit the scheme or something like that,

1694
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 2: and he doesn't whatever for whatever reason. He might fit

1695
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,879
Speaker 2: somebody else. But I'm yeah, I would say Kyer Elam's

1696
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,520
Speaker 2: got to set his sights on being c B two, absolutely,

1697
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,560
Speaker 2: and I think it would be a disappointment.

1698
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:58,799
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a heated competition.

1699
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 2: It is, though he's not between them, and I'll say this,

1700
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 2: Christian Benford is way better than anybody thought he was

1701
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 2: gonna be. So there is that as well. So it

1702
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: is it is a competition.

1703
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 1: It will be a heated training camp baddle for sure

1704
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: between those three candidates and who can make a move

1705
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: on the other two and convince the coaching staff. I'm

1706
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: the guy guy, you're pretty darn good because just by

1707
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: virtue of the people he's competing against every day.

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Speaker 2: Brownie, Happy Father's Day, Happy Father's Day, weekend, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, enjoy your Father's Day. Dad's out there. We'll see

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. We're off on Juneteenth Monday,